Fearing fighting in Taiwan, Biden signed into law a partial withdrawal of microchip production from the island to the United States

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Fearing fighting in Taiwan, Biden signed into law a partial withdrawal of microchip production from the island to the United States

US President Joe Biden expressed concern over "a possible invasion of the Chinese army into Taiwan." Moreover, in this case, we are not talking about the fact that Biden is at least somewhat worried about the fate of the people of Taiwan. As it turns out, the American president is concerned that if hostilities begin in Taiwan, American industry, including the military, may lose microchips produced by Taiwanese companies. To date, the level of US dependence on Taiwanese semiconductor elements is at least 70%. If this market collapses, then for the United States it will become not just a painful blow, but a truly critical situation.

In this regard, Biden decided to diversify the production of semiconductors. The President of the United States signed a relevant law, suggesting that the United States intends to invest more than $50 billion in the production of microchips in the coming years. In fact, we are talking about a partial withdrawal of microchip production from the island to the States.



Biden himself said that he was coming historical fight for technology in the XNUMXst century”:

We must win this fight.

The new law provides for financial support from the state of those American companies that intend to invest in the development of the microchip industry on American soil. So far, two American companies, Qualcomm and GlobalFoundries, have announced (according to Biden) large sums of money in semiconductor production.

This decision of the US authorities may have a negative impact on the Taiwanese microchip market. The fact is that in the near future there may be an outflow of American investments from the high-tech sector of Taiwan. And this will inevitably lead to the loss of jobs by thousands of employees in the semiconductor industry.
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  1. +2
    10 August 2022 12: 55
    Another 50 lard and the printing press won't burst?
    1. +17
      10 August 2022 13: 12
      Oddly enough, but the machine will not burst. As long as they have such an opportunity, and many more countries invest in dollars and will print. After all, not only they will pay, and not how many of them, but precisely everyone who buys these dollars.
      1. +11
        10 August 2022 13: 44
        The author confused the numbers a bit. For deployment
        production in the United States allocated - $ 280 billion.
        Only subsidies to companies transferring their
        production in the States - $ 52 billion. hi
        Z.Y. The witch flew for the same. To start
        move under their guarantee. The only question is
        how much China wants to interfere with the move. well and
        Taiwanese specialists will not be left without work.
        1. +1
          10 August 2022 19: 51
          Quote: Alex777
          The author confused the numbers a bit. For deployment
          production in the United States allocated - $ 280 billion.
          Only subsidies to companies transferring their
          production in the States - $ 52 billion. hi
          Z.Y. The witch flew for the same. To start
          move under their guarantee. The only question is
          how much China wants to interfere with the move. well and
          Taiwanese specialists will not be left without work.

          They will not stay if they want to move after production in the USA.
          1. +2
            11 August 2022 18: 50
            This law was adopted by Congress back in 2021, and the reason for it was the global shortage of semiconductors, and they wrote about it (that in the adopted law, Congress allocates $ 52 billion for the production of semiconductors) even on VO -

            https://topwar.ru/190431-kollaps-kitajskoj-mikrojelektronnoj-promyshlennosti-o-perenose-proizvodstva-chipov-i-dobychi-redkozemelnyh-jelementov-v-ssha.html

            And how many people just believe what they are sold. No.
    2. +10
      10 August 2022 13: 14
      for the covid pandemic, they threw from 3 to 6 trillion dollars unsecured into the world economy in the form of payments and support to their citizens and companies, and you are talking about what 50 billion unfortunate people, even for deriban for Ukraine, and then 47 billion found
    3. 0
      10 August 2022 13: 26
      taiwan surrender laughing
      1. 0
        10 August 2022 15: 42
        Quote: Wend
        taiwan surrender laughing

        They are not up to it, they need to save their money.
      2. +1
        11 August 2022 03: 44
        And Taiwan is generally like no one’s, or rather, even theirs !?
        They dispose of it as they please, they give out orders, they take instructions ...
        Now China will definitely not weaken its "warm" embrace and will continue its exercises, maybe even on the island itself.

        The United States recognized the island as belonging to China back in 91, and now they suddenly decided to dispose of someone else's economy at their own discretion?!

        The impudence is outrageous! Ran into an unacceptable disproportionate response! It seems like all the stars converge over China this time, or it just seems to me...
    4. -4
      10 August 2022 13: 42
      Another 50 lard and the printing press won't burst?


      It will not burst, because they not only print dollars, but also make the chips themselves and the software that the whole world uses, almost every one of the 8 billion people on the planet.
    5. Two
      +1
      10 August 2022 14: 04
      hi So far, the only country that successfully sells cut paper! And to the whole world! Proclaiming the most demanded sphere of consumption, with a multi-trillion-dollar debt ... And they are being conducted!
    6. 0
      11 August 2022 17: 09
      The main thing is that our navel does not tear to provide what is printed. Works out the whole planet!
  2. +8
    10 August 2022 12: 55
    If China delays, Taiwan will no longer be needed.
    It will be possible to forget about the monopoly on semiconductors.
    1. +1
      10 August 2022 13: 12
      Well, China will peacefully take Taiwan (theoretically), what will change from this? Photolithographs are made in another country. Patent law - amerskoe and a bunch of other nuances - even in Japan there is something monopoly. "A suitcase without a handle" - TSML without global cooperation..
      1. KCA
        +4
        10 August 2022 14: 06
        At least TSMC and ASML have their own lithography, the patent law is strange now, cross-licensing, sale of patents, do you think if the United States orders China, which has returned Taiwan, not to release such and such MSH, will it take it under the hood and stop? Yes, he will triple the release
        1. -3
          10 August 2022 14: 11
          And now it’s not afraid of sanctions? And here it is will to export products with microchips around the world? The new chip law is just a warning.
          1. KCA
            -2
            10 August 2022 14: 31
            Why around the world? Exceptionally friendly countries, the number of which is only growing
            1. +1
              10 August 2022 14: 37
              Treasuries? Capitalization of Chinese companies in the US? It is obvious that everything will be lost immediately.
              First, it is necessary to increase the number of members of the SCO, BRICS. This is what they are going for IMHO. Well, along the way, we only see such a light in the tunnel.
          2. 0
            10 August 2022 15: 22
            Moreover, if China does not export in this case, then everyone will crawl on their knees to have mercy.
            1. +3
              10 August 2022 15: 30
              lol So why is China in every possible way delaying this moment of "crawling on its knees of the whole world"? Where is his modesty? Why is he waiting for many high-tech industries to open in the States in 24-26?
              1. 0
                10 August 2022 17: 26
                You asked if he could export, I answered. About what he is waiting for, this is another question.
    2. +1
      10 August 2022 13: 14
      Quote: Pereira
      If China delays, Taiwan will no longer be needed.
      It will be possible to forget about the monopoly on semiconductors.

      I wonder what China will do in this case? Your conclusion is correct.
  3. +5
    10 August 2022 12: 57
    Ha ha, help in American. Hang in there, we can sell more weapons.
  4. +19
    10 August 2022 12: 58
    And this will inevitably lead to the loss of jobs by thousands of employees in the semiconductor industry.

    Taiwan will shoot down old Nancy's plane next time
    1. +2
      10 August 2022 13: 03
      Quote: 41 REGION
      And this will inevitably lead to the loss of jobs by thousands of employees in the semiconductor industry.

      Taiwan will shoot down old Nancy's plane next time

      Let them disentangle the visit of dear guests, I believe that is what the United States has conceived, to create another chaos and take out food for themselves. At first, the European economy will be quietly strangled, they will bring the countries from Asia, they will stir up something else and quietly soften the blow to their economy, or then they will come to life faster.
      1. +4
        10 August 2022 13: 07
        Unemployed Tanwanese are unlikely to pray for the icon of Nancy, if they are not called to the states - they will move to mainland China
        1. +5
          10 August 2022 13: 12
          Unemployed Taiwanese will raise the flag of China and become China themselves hi
  5. -4
    10 August 2022 12: 58
    it was already predictable how long ago intel transfers its production to the usa 11 plants shas and they want to do 15 or more! and yes, the United States of America will allocate 50 lardev, which is not enough, but the United States will allocate more if necessary! I hope the ball will burst in the United States under the name of bucks) and yes, 50 lardev for US domestic consumption is not so much!
  6. +8
    10 August 2022 12: 59
    And the grandfather of the can, in fact, did what Trump promised America - laid the foundation for the return of production to the states
    1. +2
      10 August 2022 13: 40
      And the grandfather of the can, in fact, did what Trump promised America - laid the foundation for the return of production to the states
      Exactly. Democrats have nowhere to go. The economy demands. You have to do what their competitor offered and promoted.
    2. +3
      10 August 2022 15: 53
      Quote: Dimachrus
      And the grandfather of the can, in fact, did what Trump promised America - laid the foundation for the return of production to the states

      It was under Trump that the return to America began, they were even given tax preferences upon return.
    3. +1
      10 August 2022 17: 17
      Do you say grandfather can? It is unlikely that he makes such decisions, I believe that he is just a "talking doll".
      1. Alf
        0
        10 August 2022 18: 30
        Quote: sailor Roman
        It is unlikely that he makes such decisions, I believe that he is just a "talking doll".

        Irrelevant. The important thing is that Those Who Decide are seriously concerned about the fate of America.
  7. Hog
    0
    10 August 2022 12: 59
    50 lard is clearly not enough to transfer production, the main manufacturers of microelectronics have already spoken about this. This is only enough for a partial modernization of production in America with a slight expansion.
    PS: Microelectronics is expensive even for school.
    1. -1
      10 August 2022 13: 30
      So we want to allocate the same amount to the national project for the development of microelectronics until 2030. They promise everything will be imported
      1. 0
        10 August 2022 13: 58
        They promise everything will be imported

        They have been promising for MANY years ... "THREE" standard years have long passed!
    2. +1
      10 August 2022 13: 44
      50 lard is clearly not enough to transfer production

      After all, this is the transfer of already operating production and not development from scratch. Moreover, in the states there are factories for the production of these very semiconductors.
      1. KCA
        +4
        10 August 2022 14: 14
        How do you imagine the transfer of existing production? Do you get precision machines weighing tens or even hundreds of tons from a clean room and loaded onto a dry cargo ship by crane? Their installation in a new place will take a year, or years, and it’s not a fact that it will be possible to set it up properly, which means an increase in the rejection of chips, an increase in cost, and military acceptance will look askance
  8. 0
    10 August 2022 12: 59
    The fact is that this is a program for decades, you can’t just withdraw the production of chips in a month, a year. There is probably a minimum period of 5 years
  9. 0
    10 August 2022 13: 05
    Nothing new, colonies are being plundered the old fashioned way... raw materials, resources, technologies, only the screen is changing.
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  11. -1
    10 August 2022 13: 05
    legislation to partially withdraw the production of microchips from the island in the United States
    In words, we will provide Taiwan with any support, including military support (to the question of a journalist who, taken aback, even asked again). In fact, it's better to be safe.
    in the production of microchips in the coming years The United States intends to invest more than $50 billion.
    This is for how many years? China may get ahead by deciding to put an end to the actual ownership of Taiwan by the PRC before the United States sways.
  12. 0
    10 August 2022 13: 08
    Allied support, striped in their repertoire
  13. 0
    10 August 2022 13: 11
    As if it was easy to do, he wrote a piece of paper and machines, workers, technologies, materials, raw materials returned to the USA, and most importantly: what will be the price of chips made in the USA? 3 times more? Who will buy?
    1. +5
      10 August 2022 13: 41
      , and most importantly: what will be the price of chips made in the USA? 3 times more? Who will buy?


      Everyone who is under America will buy it. Oil / gas have risen in price, but nevertheless they are buying "to spite" Russia. It's the same here. The supply of chips from China will be banned and profitability will immediately appear.
  14. -1
    10 August 2022 13: 14
    And we certainly should take advantage of this as quickly as possible by intercepting the dismissed and somehow knowledgeable Chinese and concluding long-term contracts with them.
    1. 0
      10 August 2022 13: 21
      How to take it off the tongue. A hundred or two pros and in Sarov, in order to avoid. It will be a good push
    2. 0
      10 August 2022 13: 26
      Yeah, everyone is running from science and production. But we will buy the Chinese
    3. -3
      10 August 2022 13: 29
      And we certainly should take advantage of this as quickly as possible by intercepting the dismissed and somehow knowledgeable Chinese and concluding long-term contracts with them.

      This is some kind of vyrviglaznaya game from a person who is not in the subject at all.
      All key specialists in this field are known by last name and there is a real hunt for them.
      What is on the minds of people who think that key experts will come to a country that has been sanctioned? Tsap-scratch sect is already completely out of touch with reality.
      1. 0
        10 August 2022 14: 49
        I don't think that logic or a real historical example will convince you, but ..
        Oil painting - 1945, the war is actually over, the United States literally swept away with a broom all these very "famous by name" German specialists involved in missile or nuclear topics. Read about it. The Americans had a noble head start, because the specialists preferred to evacuate to the west. However, we picked up "smaller birds" and landed on a couple of institutes that made a significant contribution to our respective programs. Of course, these were not the Von Brauns and not the Heisenbergs, but the contribution of these characters made sense, otherwise they would not have been kept in greenhouse conditions in the post-war USSR and would not have been literally fed from the hand. And there were many.

        You see, we don’t need a super brain at all, which contains all the knowledge on the topic with ready-made solutions. It is enough for us an array of specialists with experience in solving rather mundane tasks and skill "in the subject". Even this can give us significant help in determining ways to expand our own production. But you, as a layman, simply do not see, most likely, the contribution of "insects" to the construction of an anthill, it seems to you that the queen is the main one ..
        1. +1
          10 August 2022 15: 05
          The modern semiconductor industry is much more complex than rocket technology.
          Have you ever thought about what this is?

          03. Imaging performance
          The NXE:3400C can achieve a dedicated chuck overlay of 1.4 nm and a matched-machine overlay of 1.5 nm.

          https://www.asml.com/en/products/euv-lithography-systems/twinscan-nxe3400c

          Key specialists from Taiwan will be inundated with proposals from the US, China, Korea, Europe.

          Have you studied labor motivation factors? Do you know that offering a huge salary to a top specialist is not enough? What is self-actualization know?
          Do you understand that in Russia there is nothing - no lasers, no source itself, no ultra-precise mechanics, no optics to create conditions for the work of these specialists? Are you aware that TSMC does not develop any of the above? They only use it as a tool. That top specialists from Taiwan will allegedly go to an open field
          under the promise to create all this for them?

          The world has changed irrevocably. And the topvar still dreams of the times of Stalin and Beria.

          PS This is not even touching on the fact that work in Russia will be a black mark for these people on the labor market
        2. -2
          10 August 2022 17: 25
          Where do you put your specialists? Maybe it's better to give them something than the Chinese for a lot of money trying to buy. Although you can’t create a beautiful picture on TV with your own
  15. +4
    10 August 2022 13: 23
    In general, the news about the start of construction of a microchip plant in the United States slipped, as it were, a year and a half ago, into a pandemic. And the conflict with China has nothing to do with it.
  16. -1
    10 August 2022 13: 27
    It's a good news. How they will withdraw the industry and where to get workers is the second question. But the fact that the Americans have a headache is good news.
  17. +1
    10 August 2022 13: 30
    Fearing fighting in Taiwan, Biden signed into law a partial withdrawal of microchip production from the island to the United States
    . Everything leads to the fact that Taiwan will become no one, especially and is not needed.
    Their "silicone shield" will be taken away by everyone who can, who prepared for this.
  18. +4
    10 August 2022 13: 30
    Quote: Kesha1980
    Well, China will peacefully take Taiwan (theoretically), what will change from this? Photolithographs are made in another country. Patent law - amerskoe and a bunch of other nuances - even in Japan there is something monopoly. "A suitcase without a handle" - TSML without global cooperation..

    At least someone is a little "in the subject." No one even mentions the establishment of the production of photolithographs. But in the Soviet Union they knew what decides - the production of means of production. And in Russia they decided that loot decides.
  19. +3
    10 August 2022 13: 34
    Little news
    Reuters writes that 50+ billion is direct subsidies to manufacturers.
    Another 200 billion to be spent on research over 10 years
    It's a lot, but not a lot
    But there is still investment by companies. Micron announced 40 billion of its investments, Intel - 20 billion
    For comparison, Korea will allocate a comparable amount of 259 billion, but will spend it faster - by 2026.
    1. 0
      10 August 2022 14: 08
      Reuters writes that 50+ billion is direct subsidies to manufacturers

      Doesn't this violate WTO requirements?
      1. -2
        10 August 2022 14: 10
        Who cares?
        The United States will not be afraid of censures of chistolyuchi from Russia, that's for sure.
        1. 0
          10 August 2022 14: 26
          "reprimand", "cleansers", "Russia" ....
          No, I'm talking about something else, where such words are: "obligations", "agreement", "compliance", "USA" ....
          1. -2
            10 August 2022 14: 32
            This is not for me. You to some Fedorov or Staver. You will pour out your soul to each other, discussing our time of troubles.
            1. 0
              10 August 2022 15: 35
              You will pour out your soul to each other, discussing our time of troubles.

              Neighing ...
              laughing
              Is this such a violent reaction to the issue of compliance of subsidies with WTO rules? ...

              And WTO norms=troubled times?
              lol
      2. Alf
        0
        10 August 2022 18: 34
        Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
        Reuters writes that 50+ billion is direct subsidies to manufacturers

        Doesn't this violate WTO requirements?

        And who cares about WTO requirements now?
  20. -3
    10 August 2022 13: 40
    Excuse me, but where does the United States plan to take rare earth metals, blanks, industrial gases and other consumables?

    They will establish production - there is no doubt about it, because in the USA there are many companies - leaders in the production of equipment for microelectronics. Where will they take trite silicon wafers for substrates? Is global logistics tied to Asia and Taiwan?
    1. 0
      10 August 2022 13: 44
      Excuse me, but where does the United States plan to take rare earth metals, blanks, industrial gases and other consumables?

      We won't forgive. They will take it where they are now.
      Intel boasts:
      We have ten manufacturing sites—six are wafer fabrication
      https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/global-manufacturing.html
      What is wafer need to be explained?
  21. -1
    10 August 2022 13: 40
    They probably all say thank you to the old woman.
  22. +2
    10 August 2022 13: 41
    In this regard, Biden decided to diversify the production of semiconductors.


    Quite a logical move.

    The risk that China will sooner or later take control of Taiwan is very high and the US is insured. They do not need to transfer all production from Taiwan to the United States, just a part, which, if necessary, they can dramatically scale up by increasing production.

    It’s worth learning from them how to conduct business and plan their actions, otherwise we are left without new cars today and when we can return to their production level in 2021 is not known, I’m not even talking about microchips.
  23. -3
    10 August 2022 13: 49
    That's how we met Grandma! laughing And how many "Svidomo" Taiwanese will be left without work at the whim of an old woman?
  24. +1
    10 August 2022 14: 07
    It seems that this law was adopted in the summer of 2021 ...
    request
  25. 0
    10 August 2022 14: 08
    Something funny
  26. +1
    10 August 2022 14: 29
    Even I have strong doubts. Two identical chips, but made in the USA and Taiwan will differ in price. The American one will cost three times more. ,but...
    1. -1
      10 August 2022 19: 49
      As long as there is no competition, consumers still spend money to buy it. It will take decades or more for China to get a commercial CPU or GPU.
      1. 0
        10 August 2022 22: 47
        Quote from DienBienPhu
        As long as there is no competition, consumers still spend money to buy it. It will take decades or more for China to get a commercial CPU or GPU.

        For the general development of you.
        2022 A few days ago, the Chinese company Loongson, a processor manufacturer, spoke about the engineering version of its first 16-core 3C5000 stone based on the new LoongArch architecture. which will significantly increase productivity in work tasks. But we still managed to see the results of the slower 32-core 3A5000. So, the stone received a clock frequency of 3 GHz, but is able to compete with analogues of the 5000th generation Intel Core.
        And further...
        Biren Technology, a Chinese company, released its first GPU, whose peak hash rate is higher than that of the products of the American giant Nvidia, according to Yicai Global on August 10.

        According to the company, the BR100 series consists of 7nm 16-bit floating point and 8-bit fixed-point processing chips that reach top speeds of over 1000 TOPS and 2000 TOPS, respectively. Comparable Nvidia chips have up to 624 TOPS and 1248 TOPS, the report said.

        IA Red Spring
        Read the full article here:
        https://rossaprimavera.ru/news/c6fefc7c

        hi
  27. -1
    10 August 2022 14: 33
    To date, the US dependence on Taiwanese semiconductors is at least 70%...
    SHIELD? It turns out that not only we have such a shameful phenomenon as ̶k̶i̶t̶a̶y̶s̶k̶... in the sense, imported components in military equipment...
    1. 0
      11 August 2022 22: 36
      Everything for the US Army, by law, must be produced in the United States, I remember not so long ago, under Trump, there was a serious scandal when it was revealed that an official contractor of the Department of Defense supplied CCTV cameras made in China under the guise of being made in the United States.
  28. 0
    10 August 2022 15: 20
    To be honest, it’s a strange headline, and Taiwan is here, the US president wants to organize advanced high-tech production in Russia, they also want to organize production using 2030nm technology by 28 for the same amount.
  29. -2
    10 August 2022 15: 41
    But Russia doesn’t want to allocate at least something for chips?
    1. -2
      10 August 2022 17: 23
      We'll set up the sharashka. The most effective investment in science
    2. 0
      10 August 2022 19: 50
      We have, but this money is never enough, look at China, which is pouring in dollars, but still has not mastered many technologies related to chips.
  30. 0
    10 August 2022 16: 12
    Počátek utěku soldier
    1. Alf
      0
      10 August 2022 18: 37
      Quote: Altmann
      Počátek utěku soldier

      Dear colleague! I understand that you are not a local, but if possible, write in Russian, even with errors, it's okay. hi
  31. 0
    10 August 2022 19: 11
    in the near future, there may be an outflow of American investments from the high-tech sector of Taiwan

    there are no "in the coming years" - the plant has been built long ago and is ready for work, part of the staff from Taiwan is already there ...
    As for factories in Taiwan, they are essentially Pindos Soviets - the main shareholders and investors from the United States ...
    basic technology is also from the usa...
    so, "bring production home" ...
    as soon as they "transfer" - Taiwan will cease to be of value to China ...
  32. -1
    10 August 2022 19: 42
    TSMC and Samsung began choosing a site for the construction of factories in the United States
  33. 0
    10 August 2022 20: 58
    Quote: tkoh
    this

    You try to make a clean room first.
    From experience, a Chinese specialist was able to make a room, and then they took excursions to the result. There were no specialists in Russia.
  34. for
    0
    10 August 2022 21: 42
    I wonder, let's say they withdraw all production, will Taiwan, China need it?
  35. 0
    10 August 2022 21: 57
    The President of the United States signed a relevant law, suggesting that the United States intends to invest more than $50 billion in the production of microchips in the coming years. In fact, we are talking about a partial withdrawal of microchip production from the island to the States.
    In fact, this whole story began a little earlier than the "fears of hostilities in Taiwan" arose and we are talking about a large-scale task of developing the national production of microprocessors in the United States:
    WASHINGTON, August 9th. /TASS/. US President Joe Biden on Tuesday signed into law a bill to allocate support, estimated at $280 billion, to the development of semiconductor manufacturing in the country.
    The American leader, speaking at the White House, called this initiative "a once-in-a-generation investment in America." "We need to make chips here to reduce costs and create jobs," he stressed before signing the document.
  36. 0
    10 August 2022 23: 03
    Quote: SKVichyakow
    Oddly enough, but the machine will not burst.
    .
    What will happen to Fort Knox? De Gaulle once transports with dollars
    paper to the shores of the United States customized.
  37. 0
    11 August 2022 17: 10
    They do it smartly. Remove critical production. and surrender over time to Taiwan as well as Hong Kong. And there will be a carsy mine and a game, and everyone will be happy.
  38. 0
    11 August 2022 17: 11
    Well, it's been a long time coming. Partially, the production of chips was transferred to Japan (though of the previous generation), to Kumamoto Prefecture in April of this year https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2022/04/2e9ca55a35fb-tsmc-unit-to-start-chip-plant- construction-in-japan-this-week.html, plant cost $8.6 billion. A plant in the USA, in Arizona, has been under construction since 2021, the cost is $12 billion, although the costs are higher than planned https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tech/Semiconductors/TSMC-says-US-plant-construction- more-costly-than-expected
  39. 0
    15 August 2022 09: 12
    If Taiwan is China, I don’t understand how Biden manages the export of enterprises without the knowledge of the PRC leadership?

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