The attack on the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant makes you think

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Watched yesterday news release of Deutsche Welle on a Russian-language channel. The discussion turned to the situation at the Zaporozhye NPP. Naturally, an energy expert was invited to the studio. Such a serious lady with the appearance of a village teacher.

It became really interesting for me to listen to the opinion of a Western expert about what is happening. I'm used to the fact that the West believes in the most stupid versions when it comes to Russia. It does believe. Without even thinking about the absurdity of the accusations. I also became convinced of this by communicating with representatives of Western countries.



The first thing that struck me in the TV expert assessment of the situation was how simply the culprit of the shelling was found - “Russian invaders fired on” ... At the same time, in all the interviews, I never heard an answer to a simple question - who controls ZNPP today ? Both the presenters and the expert diligently avoided this topic.

It is clear that the answer to this question completely destroys those conclusions, by the way, in my opinion, the expert is rather weak and incompetent, which the lady expert makes. The station is controlled by the Russians, and the Russians are shooting at the station? Again version a la Donetsk. Are we shooting ourselves? Are we killing ourselves?

Of course, for some part of the channel's audience, this version will do. Who knows us Russians. Under Tanks they rushed during the Great Patriotic War. But for thinking Germans, this looks like nonsense. That is why they bypass this topic in the West. How many moments that exist in modern Ukraine are bypassed.

So, the co-author of this material can be safely called the "Deutsche Welle" and its experts. Given that our publication is popular in Germany, today I will talk about the real danger of what Ukrainians are doing. About a real threat not only to Russia, Ukraine and its closest neighbors, but also about the danger to Europe.

Chernobyl is child's play compared to Zaporozhye


I'll start with the basics. Zaporozhye NPP is the largest nuclear power plant in Europe! Consequently, in a man-made accident, Chernobyl and Fukushima will seem like just small incidents, and not a disaster. That is why it is impossible to take such objects using heavy artillery, MLRS and other "serious" weapons. One random projectile - and you won’t have to fight there for a long time anymore. How to live.

I will give an excerpt from the statement of the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov. It is clear that, as a diplomat and as a press secretary of the President, Peskov cannot speak directly.

“The shelling of the territory of the nuclear power plant by the Ukrainian armed forces is a potentially extremely dangerous activity, which, if aggravated, is fraught with catastrophic consequences for a vast, vast territory, including the territory of Europe.”

The consequences of a possible man-made disaster are also very specifically named in the statement of the Russian Defense Ministry. Of course, taking into account the fact that the military is considering the situation from a military point of view. However, they may not always tell the whole truth.

“The population of Kyiv, Zaporizhia, Kharkov, Poltava, Kherson, Odessa, Nikolaev, Kirovograd, Vinnitsa regions, Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics, border regions of Russia and Belarus will be in the zone of radiation contamination (more than 5 sq. km, length about 300 km) as well as Moldova, Bulgaria and Romania.

In fact, an explosion at the ZNPP will mean the disappearance of Ukraine as such. The affected territories will become life-threatening, and the population will simply leave the country. Yes, and the neighbors will get much more than in the disaster at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Kyiv understands this. That's why they bombard the station. It looks like blackmail. From the series “The barn burned down - burn down and the hut”.

I understand that the enumeration of areas that will become life-threatening does not impress the same Germans, French, Italians and other Europeans. If there is no Ukraine, there will be no problem for Ukraine, and everything will calm down. But it's not so simple. The existence of many countries, the existence of Europe, if you like, is in question. At least in the form in which it exists today. It's not worth talking about the European economy.

So, I will not particularly intrigue and draw a picture of the apocalypse, the explosion of any nuclear power plant reactor. Consider a simple and quite real situation in the light of shelling. A radioactive release during the destruction of the storage of radioactive waste, in the direction of which it has already arrived, by the way.

Zaporizhzhya NPP stands on the banks of the Dnieper. Naturally, radioactive substances will fall into this river. And what do we have in this case? The waters of the Dnieper flow into the Black Sea. Thus, all Black Sea states are deprived of the resort area. It is difficult to imagine a tourist who wants to relax in such conditions. Let's add here fishing and everything connected with it. These industries are threatened with complete ... collapse.

But that's not all. There are also straits through which contaminated water may well appear in the Mediterranean Sea. Such a beautiful picture emerges. After all, the Mediterranean states will already suffer. And these are not some "new Europeans" and other European "buffers", these are the leading Western countries.

Of course, we can talk about insignificant radiation, about dissolution and other quirks of radioactive contamination. But it cannot be said that such an infection will not occur. And this is enough for the Europeans to take their governments for Faberge and force them to influence Kyiv so that the shelling stops.

This is what the future looks like if something happens. This is not only my vision of the situation. Here is a quote from an interview with a senior expert at the Institute of Energy and Finance, Sergei Kondratiev, which he gave to RT in Russian:

“ZNPP stands on the banks of the Dnieper, and in the event of an emergency situation in which a radioactive release occurs, these substances will enter the river and can reach the Black and Mediterranean Seas, as well as the countries that are located there. These states can suffer very seriously, and therefore it is in their own interests, whatever their political position, to advocate for ensuring radiation safety at the Zaporizhzhya NPP and urge Kyiv to do so.”

And here is an excerpt from the official message of the RF Ministry of Defense regarding this problem:

“The situation can seriously escalate due to adverse weather conditions and getting into the zone of possible contamination of the South Ukrainian nuclear power plant (capacity of 3 MW) and nuclear fuel storage at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, as well as water arteries. The Black Sea and the Bosphorus Strait will become unsuitable for navigation for a long time. The coasts of Turkey, Georgia, Abkhazia, Bulgaria and Romania will be contaminated with high levels of radiation.”

It cannot be said that the world community has decided not to notice the danger of a new catastrophe. August 11 - meeting of the UN Security Council on the issue of the Zaporizhzhya NPP. But I don't feel any particular euphoria from this message. Our diplomats, of course, will try, but in the end a non-binding statement will be made.

After the recent speech of the UN Secretary General at the event dedicated to the next anniversary of the atomic bombing of Japan, it turned out that the head of the UN had already forgotten who dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But he inserted a mention of Russia's aggression into this speech...

So who is shelling the ZNPP?


I will return to the first question. So who is shelling the nuclear power plant? The most correct answer to this question we can get by answering another question. Who benefits? Nothing new, nothing original. It just doesn't happen!

Those who closely follow the actions of the Kyiv authorities and the command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces see perfectly well the state of both. How is it in boxing - the state of groggy! Drunk state! And in this state, the army of Ukraine is capable of committing any crime. They are ready to destroy everything and everyone, including themselves, for the sake of a illusory victory over Russia.

I perfectly understand Kyiv's train of thought. Stop the Russian offensive, stop the war in general with a man-made disaster. Moreover, nullify all previous victories, nullify the return of Crimea, turning it into a zone of radioactive contamination. The waters of the Dnieper will do it perfectly through the returned channel ...

Even the very possibility of such a catastrophe makes Zelensky a kind of micro-dictator of Europe. He can now ask for anything, using a simple phrase: "If you do not give, then I will not guarantee the safety of the Zaporizhzhya NPP!" Russians are so unpredictable... Europeans will not be able to laugh at this phrase. They themselves inspired their population with just such an idea.

It is we who, taught by the bitter experience of the liberated cities and towns, understand that the shelling of such objects, of which there are many in the Donbass, will be carried out as long as the Ukrainian army exists. There is no settlement that the allies liberated, which did not fly in. Even when the Ukrainians retreated without a fight, they just killed and that's it. Kherson to us for memory.

I will return again to the statement of the Russian Defense Ministry, with which I fully agree. The shelling of nuclear power plants is terrorism! But why we do not recognize Ukraine as a terrorist state, I do not understand:

“On August 7, the Zelensky regime committed a new act of nuclear terrorism at the energy infrastructure facilities of the Zaporozhye NPP to create a humanitarian catastrophe in the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. At about 12:40 Ukrainian units of the 44th artillery brigade from the area of ​​​​the settlement of Marganets on the opposite bank of the Kakhovka reservoir shelled the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant.

Now about the "Russian version" of the shelling. About how the Western press presents the situation. At the beginning of the article, I mentioned the Deutsche Welle, but this is just one of the media, and there are dozens of them. Evidence, according to the established Western tradition, no one cites and does not require. It is most important.

The task of the media now is to prevent the Russian point of view from entering the Western information space, so that the citizens of European states do not see the evidence. Here is what our US diplomats wrote in their Telegram channel:

“We drew attention to the disinformation campaign unfolding in the local media in order to attribute responsibility to our country for the situation around the Zaporozhye NPP. It is indiscriminately claimed that the Russian military carried out artillery strikes on the territory of the nuclear power plant.”

Is there a red line that will stop Kyiv?


What conclusions should we draw in this situation? The question is very complex and ... simple. The complexity of the issue is that the answer, which is sure to be, with any jewelry work of our aviators and gunners, will lead to the death of a certain number of civilians.

Simply because the facilities are located in densely populated areas. We remember very well the reaction of the West to the destruction of the plant, in which the blast wave from the detonation of ammunition destroyed the shopping complex. We remember the shots of destruction inside and outside the shopping center that disappeared rather quickly, where they practically did not show the injured civilians, the number of which for some reason is growing every day now ...

The simplicity of the question is that it is time to stop talking. Any dialogue, even in war, is a question and answer. The question was asked to us by the shelling of the ZNPP, the explosion of the headquarters fleet in Sevastopol on Navy Day, an explosion at an airfield in the Crimea. We must answer. Personally, I perceive these attacks as a slap in the face of our army and special services.

I will express a very seditious thought. Is it possible to guarantee the safety of the same Crimeans or tourists in Crimea today? Can we protect the Crimean bridge? The answer is very sad. Need an answer. Such an answer, after which the West will not even think about terrorist acts on our territory.

And the special services need to intensify their work in the border regions. If necessary, provide them with additional powers for a special period by law. Yes, it will cause some discomfort for the citizens. Yes, human rights activists will howl in unison in the West. But it will save lives.
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  1. -29
    12 August 2022 11: 05
    It seems to me that the author is strongly prone to decadent moods!
    1. +37
      12 August 2022 11: 14
      Believe me, the author is still optimistic.
      But why nothing is being done on our part, except for whining at the UN, is a big question. Kyiv has become a taboo for our military?
      1. +8
        12 August 2022 11: 30
        And what will Kyiv give? To slap Zelensky personally on the hat? So he's a pawn. The control system there must have been distributed long ago, the key centers are abroad. It seems to me that a personal hunt is needed for commanders of the regiment / battalion level and above, primarily those who carry out criminal orders.
        1. +5
          12 August 2022 11: 33
          Zelensky and Arestovich should be destroyed long ago
          1. -2
            12 August 2022 11: 45
            They will immediately make an icon out of Zelensky, but Arestovich is just a lie and it is not yet known what he brings more - harm or benefit
      2. +2
        12 August 2022 11: 43
        There is a double-edged sword here. Firstly, to recognize the state of Ukraine as a terrorist state means, for a start, to recognize them as a state. Further, after such a recognition, there can be no talk of any agreements and signing even an act of surrender, as well as the transit of oil and gas.
        Secondly, the current junta, shelling the ZNPP, once again suggests that it makes no sense to negotiate with it. They are ready to destroy the entire population for the sake of their own and the owner's interests. It would not be bad to return the spent rods to the Americans, which are practically in the open, otherwise they arranged a dump of atomic waste near the Dnieper.
        1. +6
          12 August 2022 11: 47
          Quote from Mitos
          Firstly, to recognize the state of Ukraine as a terrorist state means, for a start, to recognize them as a state.

          It has long been recognized, like all its presidents. wink
        2. +3
          12 August 2022 13: 11
          You don't care about logic. You say that by recognizing Ukraine as a terrorist state, we are deprived of the possibility of negotiations, and then you immediately say that it is pointless to negotiate with them.
          And the fact that Ukraine is a state is already obvious, it is even a member of the UN. And who is in power does not affect it.
      3. +1
        12 August 2022 11: 43
        Do you think by chance that the Tribalts called Russia a country that supports terrorism right now? In my opinion, thoughts and deeds are obvious ... they failed to take it economically and militarily, they will be branded terrorists ... so that the whole world would turn away. and no true information can be leaked to the official media of the West .... the paradigm is not the same.
      4. 0
        12 August 2022 14: 56
        already answered at the right level,
        Medvedev said that Europe also has nuclear power plants, and there may also be various accidents
        Future President of the Russian Federation
        1. -10
          12 August 2022 16: 32
          Attention, a 100% work plan for ensuring the safety of nuclear power plants has been disclosed.
          1. Choose a country that constantly arranges disasters and then lies that it is not it.
          2. Treacherously attack her in the country where the nuclear power plant is located, preferably at 4 o'clock in the morning.
          3. Fuck missiles anywhere throughout this country, without analyzing the targets.
          4. Launch the orcs to capture this and other nuclear power plants.
          4. Order the orcs to bring ammunition into the territory of the nuclear power plant in huge quantities.

          Congratulations! NPP safety has been improved. Now there is absolutely no danger.
          1. 0
            12 August 2022 17: 07
            Are you talking about the Krsko nuclear power plant in the former Yugoslavia?
            What, it didn’t work out, to be witty, Dmytryk?
            1. -2
              12 August 2022 18: 48
              NPP "Krsko" is located in the vicinity of the city of the same name in the south-east of Slovenia. It is operated jointly by Slovenia and Croatia, as it was built at the expense of the funds of both republics, which at that time were part of Yugoslavia.
          2. +2
            12 August 2022 22: 58
            Quote from Kikaxa
            Attention, a 100% work plan for ensuring the safety of nuclear power plants has been disclosed.
            1. Choose a country that constantly arranges disasters and then lies that it is not it.
            2. Treacherously attack her in the country where the nuclear power plant is located, preferably at 4 o'clock in the morning.
            3. Fuck missiles anywhere throughout this country, without analyzing the targets.
            4. Launch the orcs to capture this and other nuclear power plants.
            4. Order the orcs to bring ammunition into the territory of the nuclear power plant in huge quantities.

            Congratulations! NPP safety has been improved. Now there is absolutely no danger.

            In one old Soviet film, a five-year-old boy asks for a similar sentence: "Uncle Petya, are you a *****?"
      5. +2
        12 August 2022 16: 15
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Believe me, the author is still optimistic.

        And those who were at the aftermath of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant are very optimistic, they know firsthand what it threatens, those who live in the Grodno region of Belarus, still feel it themselves, if radiation is still elevated in Finland and Sweden.
    2. -1
      12 August 2022 14: 01
      It seemed like a good interesting article. The author puts forward a new actual hypothesis that has the right to life: Ze, or the collective television show quarter-mind with the permission of shsha, but not losing the Anglo-Saxons from that, nightmares old Europe, demanding to become / become / be the mistress of the sea, having an initially broken trough; otherwise, he threatens grandmother Europe with a nuclear blast (give this, give this, not that ...).

      The hypothesis has the right to live because it is obvious by the benefits of the striped ones with the complete controllability / dependence of the collective Zyu.

      The article is justified not only by the mistakes and losses of the Russian Federation visible to the Author, and so be it, but by obvious fakes like:
      "explosion at an airfield in Crimea" in the hysterical manner of a character in a film about a commissar on a rebellious ship, in the person of an anarchist sailor who tears his vest with a cry of asking: - How long?

      Everything is not so simple here: the fake about the catastrophe of the airfield in the Crimea is being legitimized, and this is the second, the analysis of the article by ours and theirs is given to understand that they say we are such a legion (for sure or what?), the third. The article oozes the poison of betrayal (everything is bad with us, we are everywhere in humus ...)

      And earlier, on the issue of alleged sabotage in the Crimea, we already admonished the faint-hearted students and ladies of Balzac's age: They are in vain minus a comrade, otherwise everything is gone, everything is gone, the tsar is not the tsar! There was a fact: that mail is a military secret. The rest is the version of interested parties. Don’t you dare, I’m the minus one, pour water on the rotten mill of damned Western propaganda, at least for now - the active Army is acting and you shouldn’t speak out loud the fears of women and children that can be heard at the dentist’s and proctologist’s office and / but not in direct earshot / appearances of heavy fighting ...

      What does the article offer us? With a Mauser on the side, with ribbons for Maxim's caliber crosswise? In a peakless cap on one side and with a leaden sheen of eyes bulging from a scream?

      As always.

      1. There are many of us and we are not happy
      2. Is the king not a king?!
      3.Commanders betrayed us bey...save Russia.

      It's almost funny, if it weren't sad: let's leave nuclear safety issues to professionals, huh?

      There are many thoughtful, self-possessed, sober people in the country who support the operation and are embarrassed to be like a famous hero whining in front of an oncoming transport, while Nikulin and Morgunov are firmly held in the middle and by the hands.
    3. 0
      12 August 2022 16: 39
      Quote: Sergio_7
      the author is highly prone to decadent moods!

      To think in such a situation is decadent. It's time to shake.
  2. +1
    12 August 2022 11: 09
    Since the situation is developing in this way, it is necessary to unload the fuel from the reactors and take it away. Then take all possible measures to shut down the reactors. I know that this in itself is not easy and takes time, but it needs to be done for safety.
    1. +4
      12 August 2022 11: 33
      Take out hundreds of tons of waste under fire? Any provocation and Russia will be to blame forever
    2. +2
      12 August 2022 11: 35
      Quote: MegaWattExpert
      you need to unload the fuel from the reactors and take it away

      Excuse me, where will you take out the waste?
      1. +1
        12 August 2022 11: 43
        not waste, but fuel must be removed. With waste in general, hell knows what to do
        1. +1
          12 August 2022 12: 28
          What are you?
          sure?
          At the industrial site of the Zaporozhye NPP there is a SSF (dry storage facility for spent nuclear fuel). It is an open bunded area, on which, as of last year, there were 165 containers with nuclear waste.
          Sumerians just hit these vaults
          1. +1
            13 August 2022 19: 47
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            At the industrial site of the Zaporozhye NPP there is a SSF (dry storage facility for spent nuclear fuel). It is an open bunded area, on which, as of last year, there were 165 containers with nuclear waste.

            As a suggestion, what if we collect several wagons with such containers (and with radio beacons) and send them by rail to Kuev? Naturally without showing the real content. According to travel documents, skip like any industrial cargo. He will come to Kuev and let him stand. When the recipient company stops responding, the wagons will be opened and Voila!
            And then talk with the Zelenskys on any peaceful topics!
            Maybe then something will reach their heads, since they don’t shoot at ancient Kyiv!
          2. -1
            15 August 2022 09: 10
            Are you unable to read? I write about "FUEL"
            1. -1
              15 August 2022 09: 33
              Apparently you do not know how to read and understand what you read
              1. -1
                15 August 2022 11: 21
                Sir! Do you understand the difference between waste and fuel? He wrote "to unload fuel from the reactors", what's incomprehensible here?
                1. -1
                  15 August 2022 11: 26
                  study the topic and don't waste my time
    3. 0
      13 August 2022 14: 22
      Idea is fire! But only the unloaded fuel cannot be transported right away. it still has to hang out in the pool for a year and a half or two, until it cools down. And if in the reator it is drowned out by absorbers, then in the pool, if it loses water, it will depressurize. All at once. This. first.

      Secondly, if I were on the other side, I would wait until the spent nuclear fuel was loaded into the cars, then I would open a hurricane fire ..

      The best thing that can be done, KMK, is to stop all units, create an emergency supply of pumps and power to supply water to the cooling pools in case the cooling of the pools is disturbed as a result of shelling. And these pools are all filled with spent nuclear fuel from past companies!
  3. +13
    12 August 2022 11: 09
    Turn off the nuclear power plant and the Ukrainians went to the ass! Without electricity in Ukria, victory will be achieved faster.
    1. +3
      12 August 2022 11: 24
      What about waste storage? There are hundreds of tons of them.
    2. +1
      12 August 2022 11: 45
      I agree. But the problem is that it is difficult to do it technologically. But it needs to be done, I think.
  4. +5
    12 August 2022 11: 12
    Attack on the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant makes you think

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    But not all...
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  5. +8
    12 August 2022 11: 18
    And how much will we think? am Just yesterday it was necessary to stop the operation of reactors, take out nuclear fuel and waste. The NPP control party is responsible for the safety of the NPP. All these calls to reason, the world community, the IAEA, the UN are useless chatter. Using the situation around the nuclear power plant for propaganda purposes is a crime. hi
    1. DO
      +5
      12 August 2022 11: 44
      Just yesterday it was necessary to stop the operation of reactors, take out nuclear fuel and waste.

      Now nuclear fuel and waste are protected by the plant facilities, at least somehow.
      But for their removal, all these radioactive materials will have to be removed and transported along a certain route.
      Imagine the result of a Ukrainian MLRS salvo hitting a convoy carrying radioactive materials.
      1. +1
        12 August 2022 13: 12
        Quote: DO
        Now nuclear fuel and waste are protected by the plant facilities, at least somehow.

        At least somehow! fool Thank you, reassured me. laughing Is the General Staff of the Russian Federation really not smart enough to carry out the removal of radioactive substances? Then oh! laughing But seriously, I believe in the professionals of Rosatom and the RF RA. hi
        1. DO
          +3
          12 August 2022 13: 38
          I believe in the professionals of Rosatom and the Republic of Armenia

          You do not need to be a Rosatom professional to understand the difference in the protection of radioactive materials from the Zaporizhzhya NPP from shelling now (reinforced concrete structures), and during their transportation.
          Maybe your proposal makes sense from a different angle. If the Zaporozhye NPP is decommissioned, and the storage conditions for uranium rods with the cooling system turned off in the reinforced concrete shelter of the NPP are provided, the threat of a thermal explosion of a reactor similar to Chernobyl will be eliminated. Naturally, this is a question for Rosatom specialists.
  6. +3
    12 August 2022 11: 18
    —- Any danger to the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant can lead to pro-Ukrainian peacekeeping forces to prevent it. At the request of the Security Council, even over the veto of the Permanent Members. Under the auspices of the risk to Europe from another Chernobyl.
    Say "no"??? And how... For example, Poland is not as a NATO member, but the savior of Europe... peace enforcement in blue helmets and an unmanned zone... And other volunteers like Kazakhstan...

    - Do you think Ukraine is not capable of this? And how… Follow the British press… from there your legs will grow… This is a knight’s move, the Skripal gambit in modern conditions. Butch will seem like a sweet dream.

    —-As soon as possible, we need a Russian 200 km cordon from the nuclear power plant, and impenetrable air defense ... to save Europe from Ukrainian and other provocateurs ...

    —- There are no red lines that Kyiv will not cross relative to the Zaporizhzhya NPP. On the contrary, the possibility ... the threat ... of peace enforcement in RUSSIA is part of plans to bring the West into the conflict in the role of defending Europe from the nuclear threat. With all the ensuing consequences... tactical from diverting the Armed Forces to create a cordon space... from the liberation of the DPR... protecting the recaptured. As far as the strategic and political ones - the impossibility of hitting the third / third parties of the conflict, as the President stated - they, the blue helmets, are protecting Europe from another Chernobyl ...

    —- The situation with the ZNPP is a ball lightning that is looking for a break of the least resistance in order to be discharged. Doesn't seem like much
  7. +3
    12 August 2022 11: 23
    I agree with the author. Ukraine must be recognized as a terrorist camp.
  8. +1
    12 August 2022 11: 25
    Do not take this lady from the Deutsche Welle for an idiot, as well as most Western politicians.
    They perfectly understand who is shelling the station. But it is impossible to talk about it , or more precisely , they are silent about it .
    And not every inhabitant knows how to think, he hears only what they are talking about.
    Not everyone can read between the lines.
  9. +1
    12 August 2022 11: 25
    According to rumors, mi6 had a meeting yesterday in the Kremlin about this. Let's see where it leads.
  10. -5
    12 August 2022 11: 30
    do we really need this nuclear power plant ??
    jamming, conserving, exporting fuel
    let it not work, for the time being
    1. +1
      12 August 2022 11: 37
      Quote: Dedok
      we export fuel

      where?
      besides fuel, there is also waste, how are you going to do it under shelling?
      1. -2
        12 August 2022 13: 14
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Quote: Dedok
        we export fuel

        where?
        besides fuel, there is also waste, how are you going to do it under shelling?

        Silently and without advertising. hi
      2. 0
        12 August 2022 15: 04
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        where?

        where it is produced, there are storage places
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        besides fuel there is also waste

        and leave the waste for now
        but in general: ZNPP should be closed for some time, the loss of electricity does not compensate for the image losses: did you watch the UN Security Council?
        understand what awaits us?
        and what do we need it for?
        1. 0
          12 August 2022 18: 03
          Quote: Dedok
          and leave the waste for now

          they pose no less, if not more, danger in today's conditions
    2. 0
      12 August 2022 11: 47
      It only takes a few weeks to shut down the reactor and cool it down.
      1. 0
        12 August 2022 18: 41
        VVER reactors, like absolutely all power reactors, are shut down at the touch of a button. About Chernobyl is not necessary, there is a completely different story.
        1. 0
          15 August 2022 12: 44
          Yes, yes, but the temperature also does not disappear when the button is pressed, you need to cool the reactor for several weeks, otherwise you will not pull out the fuel rods.
          1. 0
            16 August 2022 07: 17
            In emergency mode, the fuel rods can be pulled out at least immediately, but it is logical that it is better in a couple of days. The question is that it is still impossible to transport them without aging in storage, residual heat and radiation are crazy.
            1. 0
              17 August 2022 08: 01
              Here I am about the same.
  11. 0
    12 August 2022 11: 34
    In fact, an explosion at the ZNPP will mean the disappearance of Ukraine as such
    judging by today's wind rose, not a fact
    https://www.ventusky.com/?p=47.4;29.8;4&l=temperature-2m
    the entire Black Sea coast, Odessa and Nikolaev regions, Turkey, Georgia, possibly Iran will suffer
  12. +7
    12 August 2022 11: 38
    that the answer, which is sure to be,
    If Russia's actions continue to consist of "answers", the chances of successful demilitarization and denazification will be equal to zero. Without a wand.
    Do you need to explain why? War is not judo. Some people forget about it.
  13. +1
    12 August 2022 11: 41
    All these Western heads have clearly expressed their opinion, Zaporozhye NPP is threatened not by shelling from HIMARS and 777 howitzers, but by Russian control.
    The shelling will not stop, but will only intensify!

    In order not to risk the population
    throughout the south of Russia and Ukraine, it is necessary to temporarily stop the operation of power units until the troops provide a 100-kilometer security belt around the nuclear power plant.
  14. +1
    12 August 2022 11: 52
    Alexander, no one has shed as much blood as the idealists...
    excerpt from the statement of the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation

    is this the diplomat whose son is a citizen of Britain, and whose daughter had an internship at the European Parliament? I don't even want to read what he said.
    Affected areas will become life-threatening, and people will simply leave the country. Kyiv understands this. That's why they shell the station.

    I didn’t see where the benefit is for decision-makers in Kyiv - who will be mobilized?
    Thus, all Black Sea states are deprived of the resort area. Let's add here fishing and everything connected with it. These industries are threatened with complete ... collapse.

    Again, no, the Japanese are not bad and feel good near Fukushima and eat local fish. And then there is "nuclear tourism" ...
  15. +3
    12 August 2022 11: 54
    The storage site for spent nuclear fuel, as it does not give reason for optimism.
  16. +1
    12 August 2022 12: 02
    Quote: DigitalError
    Alexander, no one has shed as much blood as the idealists...

    For example, the idealist Prophet Moses, who destroyed the ancient Jews for ideological reasons. Because of the attitude to the Commandments. Or Mohammed...
    Yes ... s ... In the Church, or as the old joke says: "in the conservatory" - something must be changed, otherwise the idealists will ruin the whole country. Whether business thieves and traitors. Go - - your boys?
  17. -3
    12 August 2022 12: 13
    Additional air defense, missile defense. Counterbatteries. Move the front as quickly as possible. And start exporting spent fuel for processing and conservation to Russia. Slowly but methodically, with all precautions, up to air defense. Stop and unload the central reactors, leaving the outer ones to work.
  18. +4
    12 August 2022 12: 24
    It would seem that it was necessary to think when planning the NWO. The boss differs from a mere mortal in that he is obliged to think about everything in advance and foresee everything.
  19. +5
    12 August 2022 12: 33
    What the author never said is that the shelling takes place on days when the air masses are directed mainly to the south and east!
    These are targeted actions.
  20. +1
    12 August 2022 12: 36
    Thoughts are sad: Zelensky’s temporary workers hope to escape from the infected area to London or Washington, they are not interested in the fate of the duped citizens of Ukraine. The saddest thing is that the zombified Svidomites do not understand what reality the current Kyiv puppets are dragging them into - they don’t even want to protest, they don’t even want to think about what will happen to them and their children. And those who fled abroad will also be happy: there will be a reason not to return to the square contaminated with radiation and continue to sit on the neck of the Poles, Germans, and others.
  21. -8
    12 August 2022 12: 38
    The author of the article, Alexander Staver, is absolutely illiterate and has no idea about nuclear power plants.
    In any shelling of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, the Ukronazis cannot damage either the reactors or the storage of radioactive materials. Both are located under multi-meter layers of reinforced concrete, which are designed for a direct hit on them by the largest civil aircraft. None of the weapons in the hands of the Ukronazis are capable of penetrating these ceilings.
    What Ukronazis Can Do:
    1. Blow up power lines. The Zaporozhye NPP will have to be stopped.
    2. Blow up the cooling system of steam turbine condensers. The Zaporozhye NPP will have to be stopped.

    But, there will be NO RELEASES of radioactive substances, even under the worst-case scenario.
    Those who are fighting against Russia are talking about the radioactive apocalypse, tirelessly. Mr Staver works for our enemies.
    1. +1
      12 August 2022 13: 30
      Quote: Egor53
      The author of the article, Alexander Staver, is absolutely illiterate and has no idea about nuclear power plants.

      And you are absolutely illiterate, and do not have the slightest idea about the effectiveness of the weapons in service with Ukraine and their Western sponsors. The Russian Federation has already stated in the UN that it cannot ensure the safety of nuclear power plants. Are you suggesting that the West take care of its security? So who works for whom is another question. hi
    2. -1
      13 August 2022 14: 31
      Can't they also damage the cooling systems of the holding pools? And when the pools are left without cooling, what will happen? Tell us, you are a pro, as I understand it!

      And there is also a dry SNF storage facility on the site. Open air. If tomorrow they start shooting at him? Please tell us what will happen in this case?
  22. +3
    12 August 2022 12: 38
    Everything will end badly. Further, longer and more powerful missiles will appear, and so on. As we adjust, there will be "new items". Well, in the end it will end with the fact that one of the "greetings" will drill a hole in the burial ground and there will be another Chernobyl.

    That's why. Let our military leaders hack their noses: until, quite by accident, tankers and large transports going to the USA and Britain begin to sink in batches, these will not stop. What is happening now is the favorite game of the agglosak rats. They must feel the reaction in their own skin.

    Second. Until we completely destroy the infrastructure (including energy facilities) in the territories adjacent to the nuclear power plant controlled by the fascist (at least within a radius of 200 km), we will not be able to effectively monitor these installations. And let's throw these snot: they say, we are not like that, etc. Do you want a repeat of Chernobyl?
  23. +4
    12 August 2022 12: 41
    Only a rapid offensive from the south to Zaporozhye, Krivoy Rog, Nikolaev, with the simultaneous work of sabotage groups in areas on the opposite bank of the nuclear power plant, can prevent a catastrophe.
  24. +2
    12 August 2022 12: 45
    Need an answer. Such an answer, after which the West will not even think about terrorist acts on our territory.
    But what kind of answer is needed? What if they had no thoughts about terrorist acts? Analytics, good, what will happen in the event of an accident at the ZNPP, but what to do, what should be the answer? What exactly? Still developing according to plan? Is everything taken into account by the mighty hurricane of thoughts?
  25. +1
    12 August 2022 12: 51
    Judging by the reaction, there is nothing special to think about.
  26. -2
    12 August 2022 13: 49
    yellow line?
  27. +5
    12 August 2022 14: 31
    I do not understand. I don't understand anything! Some concerns. It flies to our border regions. Arrives at the Zaporozhye NPP. It flies to other important objects. And all this is not the first day and not just once. And we can’t do anything about it with such power? Good. I am a sofa expert. And when you took such objects, did you not think that they would be fired upon and the distance available for firing should be moved away from these objects? Should Ukrainians simply give everything away like that? Without a fight? Here someone, to put it mildly, is playing something. I am against such methods of Ukraine, but ours are completely incomprehensible !!! If you took such objects, then defend them, but not in the form of appeals (complaints) to the West!. Now you are responsible for them!
  28. -1
    12 August 2022 15: 04
    it's a sin to laugh at the Experts: we have dozens of them every day on TV. but, if only there was at least a brief reference for each expert: what he graduated from, where and by whom he served or worked, scientific work, etc. and so that we can see: for example, Korotchenko - he was dismissed from the army due to a bad article, after that he received the rank of colonel for his services, and now he is in charge of some kind of magazine about the war ... a lamb - well, this one distinguishes coated from a toilet - with a daddy behind his superiors he ran well, he is very good at covering secular and military life ... and the rest: if you listen carefully, what they are talking about, especially economists, is just an anecdote. maybe collect them together and pay money to those whose forecasts come true in a year, and calculate from the rest ...
  29. +1
    12 August 2022 15: 15
    An impenetrable shield around the survivors must be created.
  30. +1
    12 August 2022 15: 56
    "We will respond to white terror with red terror." Familiar phrase? Each projectile against the infrastructure of the liberated territories must be answered by the destruction of such infrastructure in the western outskirts of the country (still the country) 404.
  31. +1
    12 August 2022 17: 25
    Come on. Nuclear waste is being transported to Tomsk from France despite the sanctions and nothing. Mortality, however, including children, from oncological diseases is growing by leaps and bounds. Well, who cares. Babies are still giving birth. Che there Ukrainians, yes)
    1. 0
      12 August 2022 23: 10
      Quote: From Tomsk
      Come on. Nuclear waste is being transported to Tomsk from France despite the sanctions and nothing. Mortality, however, including children, from oncological diseases is growing by leaps and bounds.

      Please send the statistics to the studio, preferably the official one from the website of the Ministry of Health of the Tomsk Region, otherwise ... some kind of blah blah blah turns out. There is nothing in Zheleznogorsk Kraskraya, but you have horror, horror.
    2. 0
      13 August 2022 02: 10
      Come on lie then. Nuclear waste processing is a very profitable business. Several countries have such technologies. Russia including.
    3. 0
      16 August 2022 12: 18
      What did you come up with. French nuclear waste was going to be transported to Tomsk in the early 90s. But the governor Kress V.M. And then Tomsk-7 rushed and the question was closed tightly. It was April 1993. Participated in the liquidation of the Chernobyl accident in 1986 and there in Tomsk-7 in April 1993. I know firsthand about accidents at radiation facilities. and deal with stuffing 30 years ago, this is, but what can you not do in the information war.
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  33. +1
    12 August 2022 19: 35
    Peskov ... A talking head that blurted out "for which I am under sanctions." Let her molt to her daughter in France. The country will be cleaner.
  34. 0
    12 August 2022 23: 02
    There are also straits through which contaminated water may well appear in the Mediterranean Sea. Such a beautiful picture emerges.

    Can you be more specific? With calculations and numbers, not a script?
  35. 0
    12 August 2022 23: 44
    Quote: Captain45
    Quote: From Tomsk
    Come on. Nuclear waste is being transported to Tomsk from France despite the sanctions and nothing. Mortality, however, including children, from oncological diseases is growing by leaps and bounds.

    Please send the statistics to the studio, preferably the official one from the website of the Ministry of Health of the Tomsk Region, otherwise ... some kind of blah blah blah turns out. There is nothing in Zheleznogorsk Kraskraya, but you have horror, horror.

    Wait. Right now he ran away. This is another officer daughter, is it not immediately clear?
    1. 0
      13 August 2022 02: 06
      And I would not be so categorical in my assessments. Have you been banned on Google?
      (green, this is mortality, if anything).
      Or was it also banned in Yandex?


      For comparison and clarity, the graph of past years.

      So about officer daughter another question, who is who.
      1. 0
        15 August 2022 22: 11
        Everywhere in Russia, mortality increased in 2021. This is the result of COVID.
        1. 0
          15 August 2022 22: 21
          Child mortality as a result of kavidla did not increase in the 21st year.
          If you look closely at the chart, the 21st year has nothing to do with it at all, from the word AT ALL.
          1. 0
            16 August 2022 11: 07
            RIA News. Coronavirus in 2021 became the main cause of death of more than 390 thousand people in Russia, in total, more than half a million people diagnosed with COVID died last year, follows from Rosstat data.
            In 2020, according to the statistical agency, 144 people with coronavirus infection died in Russia (691% of the total number of deaths in 6,8).
            1. 0
              16 August 2022 11: 15
              Daiyomayo. Have you looked at the chart? What kavid in the 18th year, nafik? And in the 19th?



              As you can see, until May 2020, it was generally clean in the Tomsk region. And population growth is negative. Do not cling to this kavid. It does not give an increase of 16-17%. Of these, a maximum of 5-6%. No more. These are general statistics for the country. And you are trying to pull the donkey by the ears. Especially child mortality. Children generally singly died from kavidl.
  36. 0
    13 August 2022 02: 04
    Yes, there are no lines that will stop Kiev. We ourselves sponsor terrorists with all sorts of transit payments and grain concessions. there is no need for a nuclear power plant - turn off their light .. They will live in the shoes of Donetsk for a month, let's see how they sing
  37. 0
    13 August 2022 10: 10
    The task of the media now is to prevent the Russian point of view from entering the Western information space,

    When THESE come to bow to us and want something, then one of the requirements is the return of RT and his immunity. And TV channels, and on YouTube, and issuance in search engines. No you can not? Well, fig fam then.
  38. +1
    13 August 2022 11: 35
    What I don't understand is what is the question? Our command is calmly watching how the Ukrainians are hitting the station and not doing a damn thing. And the opportunities are there to hell. Starting with a dagger along Bankovskaya ending with the demolition of Manganese to zero. Or everything is not so scary, but all this is hysteria.
  39. -2
    13 August 2022 13: 42
    I perfectly understand Kyiv's train of thought. Stop the Russian offensive, stop the war in general with a man-made disaster. Moreover, reset all previous victories,....

    And the Russian Federation wants to stop Kyiv with the help of complaints to the IAEA and the world community?
  40. 0
    13 August 2022 17: 06
    What about the answers, gentlemen "decision makers"? I need answers, yesterday, and even the day before yesterday approximately. "Rolling out" without stench does not happen. To whom it is not pleasant, let them not sniff!
  41. 0
    14 August 2022 09: 32
    All radionuclides of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant are buried in silt at the bottom of the Kyiv reservoir. That is, they are kept by its dam. There is also the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station (BYE!) ...
    By the way. The destruction of the dam of the Kyiv hydroelectric power station will not only wash away half the city on the left bank, but also turn the entire Kyiv region (at least) into an uninhabitable radiation desert. This is for thought
  42. 0
    14 August 2022 19: 25
    [b] Some balabols, but what exactly is proposed to be done, and here the lowing begins, the Ukrainians will blow up this nuclear power plant in the near future and our Crimean bridge will go there if we continue to chew snot. Only the military defeat of Ukraine will solve all the questions posed in the article .And most importantly, Ukraine in the administrative and political [the form in which it now exists should disappear from the world map, only then can we talk about world peace and solving the problems of special operations / b], everything else is guys from the evil one.
  43. 0
    17 August 2022 07: 55
    Quote: kor1vet1974
    Is everything taken into account by the mighty hurricane of thoughts?

    The author is right in the sense that the setting makes you think. And the reality is that oh, how not hot to think ......
    But very hot vodka, naked young heifers, fun and on the beach in Florida ..... And what will outweigh in this great struggle is unknown .......
  44. 0
    17 August 2022 19: 27
    And what is there to think .. Zelya moved like a cuckoo along the way. One volley of a chimera - and goodbye Europe. There will be performers. We urgently need to jam the station
  45. 0
    18 August 2022 14: 11
    Why are we trying to "discuss" the conclusions or conjectures of the EU-sovsikh "experts"! This is an empty idea! We won't hear the truth, objectivity... Remember the Skripal case, MH-17, the massacre in Bucha? It is necessary to talk about WHY, STILL, these attacks continue. After all, someone has been appointed responsible for organizing security at this nuclear facility (name, position, rank)? Someone created a plan, someone approved it... Someone PROBABLY analyzed the expected development of the situation in the theater "adjacent" to the ZaNPP... And what is the "outcome"? "... Something is wrong in the Danish state ...." I want our reasonable decisions embodied in metal, and not the "rattling" of the media, from all the irons, about the all-European nuclear danger and the "bad" Svidomo, which her, with maniacal persistence, trying to realize ...

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