A series of explosions rocked Crimea

In the Crimea, in the area of ​​​​Novofedorovka, where a military airfield is located, at least ten explosions thundered. The authorities of the republic confirm this fact and ask to wait for official announcements.

In the Novofedorovka area there is a military unit and a military airfield. At the moment, it is known that the first explosion occurred at 15:20, it was the strongest. This was followed by another series, a total of about ten explosions, now there is a secondary detonation. Above Novofedorovka there are clouds of thick black smoke, visible for many kilometers.

The first explosion was very powerful. (...) The frames were knocked out in our dining room. Then we were taken to the basement and from there we heard muffled pops

- say eyewitnesses.

Evacuation is reported, people are loaded into cars and taken out, ambulances and emergency services follow in the direction of Novofedorovka. There are no reports of casualties yet. The head of the Crimea Sergey Aksyonov left for the place. The Ministry of Health of the Republic reported that a sanitary aviation.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defense stated that ammunition exploded at the airfield in the Crimean Saki, no one was injured, the reasons are being established.

On August 15.20, at about XNUMX, on the territory of the Saki airfield near the settlement of Novofedorovka, several aviation ammunition detonated on a bunded storage site. No one was injured in the explosion. Aviation equipment at the airport is not damaged

- said in a statement.

Comments

[Denistutswoy]

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

[Murmur 55]

Denistutswoy , the answer is obvious, they simply underestimated, and the Himarsy campaign is doing their job.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Precisely those Himars, about the destruction of the BC to which they reported so bravely today?
Nude nude ...

[Shurik70]

Not necessarily air defense
Blow up an ammunition depot - just one traitor and a mine with a timer are enough.
Or a saboteur. But a traitor is more reliable. And if they get caught, don't be sorry.

[Passer]

As practice shows, one gouging is enough.

[Stepan S]

Or a saboteur. But a traitor is more reliable. And if they get caught, don't be sorry.

And the fact that in the Crimea and Sevastopol there are many "sympathizers" left and they can do anything for money. It is possible that the explosion at the airfield was arranged by them. This is a simple matter for a person who has access. And after the explosion, go look for evidence.

[Sancho da Vinca]

Note, colleague, khokhlopredatel - much cheaper! Regards, IMHO, of course

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

Nude nude ...

The nearest dill positions are at least 200 km away! What Hymers?

[Corrosion inhibitor]

The version with saboteurs is also doubtful. By the way, there is a full-scale conflict between Russia and Europe in Ukraine, a nuclear war is already five minutes away, kilometers of articles have been published about this, and, nevertheless, coverage of some technologies is diligently avoided on both sides.
Everyone is already used to the fact that radio-controlled robots can fly, everyone has seen that they can swim. But, for some reason, everyone completely forgot that combat electronics can also ride, and even crawl. TSO control strips are constantly crossed by wild animals. Perhaps not only animals. This is one of the versions, for example. There are others.
But, this does not mean that a simple operating error or a factory defect is less likely.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor

The version with saboteurs is also doubtful.

But no less likely. Where is the guarantee that among the Ukrainian military who transferred from the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to serve in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2014 there was no well-hidden mole, who for all these 8 years conscientiously drummed on the SBU or the GUR? In Sevastopol, on the day of the Navy, a strike on the headquarters, as a result of which 6 people were injured, was inflicted with the help of a drone, which, according to some statements, was launched from the territory of Sevastopol itself, and therefore the pro-Ukrainian enemy lived in the same city. So I would not dismiss the version with the saboteur

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor

The version with saboteurs is also doubtful

Well, why not? After all, saboteurs are not only gorillas in camouflage, with straws in their teeth, crossing the border river. An unshaven drunk joker in stretched sweatpants from a neighboring street can also turn out to be a saboteur, a member of a sleeping cell. It is quite possible to lay a briquette of TNT or launch a quadric with a suspended grenade.
TNT, by the way, doesn’t even need to be hidden, maybe even lying around in the courtyard at the entrance to the house - when it’s worn on the edges, it looks very much like laundry soap, it won’t arouse suspicion in anyone. During the years of my service in my native red banner, I had several checkers lying around at home, confiscated from the Zlochintsy. My wife almost washed half of them once ... More harmless-looking objects :))

[Corrosion inhibitor]

Unlikely because it was an airfield during the war. I do not know how security was organized there, but if its level corresponded, then it is unlikely. Such suspicious catastrophes were already enough to draw attention to the increase in their frequency and coincidence with other events.

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: Corrosion_Inhibitor

Unlikely because it was an airfield during the war

No, no ... in no case do I presume to state anything specific, let local specialists in the ORD do it. I simply drew attention to the fact that the hypothesis of sabotage of a local spill cannot be rejected a priori either. Only after work.

[Corrosion inhibitor]

Yes, it's impossible. But I wouldn't bet on it, as they say. There have been too many sabotage, which is easiest to explain by "pranks of partisans." Too much. When this happens, there is something else.

[Andrey Poklonsky]

Fighting gophers-terminators? They crawl up unnoticed and start smoking cigarettes right on the boxes of ammunition.

[Corrosion inhibitor]

What crawls on the ground is greater than what flies in the sky. A flying object has a high contrast in relation to the air in several physical parameters at once. But the "combat gopher" will be more than well protected by the terrain until the very last moment.
Ground-based electronics have one more advantage over air ones, the first one can take it and wait without wasting energy, and the process of movement itself is more economical on the ground than in the air.
Self-propelled mines were used back in the First World War. Today, these technologies have become many times more dangerous, because their improvement began from those times and has not stopped until today. And it won't stop. But, they keep quiet about this, as well as about many other things. For example, about the results of the application. And they certainly are.

[Bayun]

plus... A hedgehog or a snake (and such a drone has been around for a long time) at the airfield is unlikely to bother anyone much.

Films about animals have been shot like this for a long time, a mechanical penguin or a crocodile calmly frolics among living "relatives" ...

It is necessary to clearly monitor everything that changes location. Especially those items that are airfield "garbage" or a typical item.

[zloybond]

with saboteurs is the most likely. Chimeras do not finish. The remaining versions are to justify themselves and reassure the public.

[Frost]

Quote: Murmur 55

Himars do their job.

Too far for the Hymars. 200 km there. Most likely, the grass fire from the cigarette spread to the ammunition depot.

[private person]

Too far for the Hymars. 200 km there

So the Americans announced the delivery of a new batch of missiles. Maybe these are the same missiles with a radius of up to 300 km? But also the Nemchura put their MLRS.

[Murmur 55]

private person , do not forget about England, she did not promise anything and could well supply large-radius missiles, quietly.

[private person]

, do not forget about England

And I didn’t forget, didn’t you see how much - they sketched for us? Well, people do not believe that somehow they can also attack.

[military_cat]

Quote: Hoarfrost

Too far for the Hymars. 200 km there

Himars can shoot GMLRS (70 km) and ATACMS (300 km).

Quote: Hoarfrost

Most likely, the grass fire from the cigarette spread to the ammunition depot.

Moreover, sloppy smokers exploded in two places almost simultaneously.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

And the "source" of Reuters was successfully in the right place!

[Modya]

Stop panicking! Being near this airfield, the high intensity of the work of our aviation is perfectly visible. This heavily burdens the work of all support services, which increases the likelihood of an error or oversight. There were no signs of arrival. In your photo, not the first, but subsequent explosions and what detonated simultaneously in 2 places is not surprising, since the smoke trail between them indicates a large fire area.

[poquello]

Quote: Modya

Stop panicking! Being near this airfield, the high intensity of the work of our aviation is perfectly visible. This heavily burdens the work of all support services, which increases the likelihood of an error or oversight. There were no signs of arrival. In your photo, not the first, but subsequent explosions and what detonated simultaneously in 2 places is not surprising, since the smoke trail between them indicates a large fire area.

come on) , the support group of the holy hameris is already right there

[private person]

come on) , the support group of the holy hameris is already right there

Come on, you're probably from the opposite group? We will throw hats on them, but these hymers are old.

[poquello]

Quote: private person

Are you from the opposite group?

you guessed it, hameris is the level of a hurricane-tornado, an unremarkable system with missiles shot down by air defense, their missiles sometimes slip through due to short distances and short reaction time, poor location of air defense systems, that this crap will not fly past the air defense unnoticed, but the reaction of saint himaris fanatics is simply touches

[military_cat]

Quote: Modya

Being near this airfield, the high intensity of the work of our aviation is perfectly visible. This heavily burdens the work of all support services, which increases the likelihood of an error or oversight.

And, well, it means that again it will be possible to apply nothing to the centers of acceptance.

[kit88]

It seems to me, of course they won't. Simple incompetence in matters of choosing a place to smoke ....
By the way, the degree of competence of representatives of the Ministry of Defense also raises questions.
Well, it was necessary to blather like this:
... several aviation munitions detonated .... Aviation equipment at the airfield was not damaged
The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is not aware that aviation ammunition is aviation equipment ?!
The definition of Aviation Technology (AT) is given in the Federal Law No. 10, as well as in many aviation documents. Read gentlemen managers, lawyers and press secretaries from the Moscow Region.

[Aag]

Quote: Modya

Stop panicking! Being near this airfield, the high intensity of the work of our aviation is perfectly visible. This heavily burdens the work of all support services, which increases the likelihood of an error or oversight. There were no signs of arrival. In your photo, not the first, but subsequent explosions and what detonated simultaneously in 2 places is not surprising, since the smoke trail between them indicates a large fire area.

That is, it's normal, it's according to plan - it was intended that way.
Are you crazy?

[Modya]

Choose your expressions, my dear. We are talking about panic about “everything was lost to us byutuzhev”, and not about the fact that explosions at a military airfield are in the order of things.

[kytx]

There are pictures on the cart. Muddy truth. But still it looks like "arrival".

[dedusik]

Here, the fine-shaven have already been updated several times https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11095387/Mushroom-cloud-seen-rising-near-Russian-military-airbase-Crimea.html

[saved]

Being in the years 94-95 in the area of ​​​​the Severny airport in Grozny, I was always amazed at the lying missiles not covered by anything. Maybe things have changed now, but...

[Inokkenty]

What are you hanging on your ears in noodles. Explosions against the backdrop of smoke from a fire. Those. they were already after the fire, they just don’t understand it ...

[bayard]

And how do you explain two synchronous explosions at a distance of 200 - 300 m from each other?
And already after the first / first?
Try to offer a plausible version.

[bayard]

These two simultaneous explosions, separated by 200-300 meters from each other, guarantee the official version - the reason was smoking in the wrong place and a pair of fuel spilled by blockheads.
Judging by the power of the explosion, the warhead is very powerful ... and the Chimera ATACMS has 560 kg. So the version is beating with it.
Therefore, the question arises - what did the air defense do?
There are several S-400 and S-300 divisions in Crimea.
And will there be an answer?
I remember just the other day citizen Medvedev not only threatened with his finger all sorts of centers where decisions are made, but also promised a certain "Armageddon".
Maybe that's why it arrived - what did you promise?
And precisely for the strike on the Crimea.
So will the answer be?
Or are we "not started yet" and ... are not going to?
And it will be as always: "It exploded / drowned itself"?

[Adrey]

Quote: Hoarfrost

Too far for the Hymars. 200 km there. Most likely, the grass fire from the cigarette spread to the ammunition depot.

Too far. If only ATACMS arrived. In any case, hello to our air defense. And yes, Serpentine is not needed

[House 25 Sq. 380]

And yes, Serpentine is not needed

By the way, no, you don't need to.
Till....

[Ryusei]

You think you need it, so get off the couch or take it.

[kravch67k]

Something has been smoking a lot lately. And again "claps", is there a concert with applause applause? Maybe you should call things by their proper names?

[MBRSS]

And again "claps", is there a concert with applause applause?

just a close explosion in sound - exactly a clap, not a peal (when the shock wave, until it reaches, will be reflected many times from everything).

[Blacksmith 55]

Focus Online writes that the outskirts fired on a military base.
Let's wait for clarification.

[Kesha1980]

I have already read:

In the port of Odessa, they heard the pops of launching 7 rockets. Presumably from the grain terminal.

. There will be many crazy theories. I think - sabotage on the spot, or negligence, especially in this heat.

[isv000]

Quote: Hoarfrost

Most likely, the grass fire from the cigarette spread to the ammunition depot.

Ensign Sidorenko is in charge of the warehouse?!

[svit55]

pr-to Parasyuk.

[IvanSviridov]

Undoubtedly!

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Denistutswoy hi, the answer is obvious, they simply underestimated, and the Himarsy campaign is doing their job.

How far?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Murmur 55

what is our air defense doing ???

Quote: Murmur 55

the answer is obvious, they simply underestimated it, and the Himarsy campaign is doing their job.

There is no information yet, except for the fact, and the conclusions are already ready.
You shouldn't be in such a hurry.

[Sedoy]

from where the Hymars in Sevastopol "do the work", you can't tell ...

[Pilat2009]

There, the range to the front line is about 200 km. What are the Himars?

[dmi.pris1]

In the center of Sevastopol, on the holiday of the Navy, explosives were dropped from a drone. What does air defense have to do with it? This is a question for the FSB, rather, for the police

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: dmi.pris

In the center of Sevastopol, on the holiday of the Navy, explosives were dropped from a drone. What does air defense have to do with it? This is a question for the FSB, rather, for the police

Quickly find the scum!
This is for everything that xoxly are masters of.
Murders from around the corner, explosions, sabotage.
Not a single prominent rebel leader was killed on the battlefield...
Damn Bandera...

[Andriuha077]

This is a question for the FSB, rather, for the police

Exactly.
Agrodrone with mine drum, add slowdown https://topwar.ru/196466-bespilotnik-bombardirovschik-barabannoe-ustrojstvo-dlja-sbrosa-min-iz-niderlandov.html
link "May 14" from this article https://t.me/quadro_news/1303

Senator from Crimea: The attack on the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol was carried out from the city itself -city.html
Kursk region, where a power line pole was blown up the other day, they went much further by firing from a mortar https://t.me/lobaev_vlad/4515

Jigsaw, electrical tape, radio module removed, that's all high technology.
mortar GPS extension.
Object GPS Jammers?
The fisherman, [31.07.2022 9:55]
Yes, there is everything, but it is included only for verification.

[Asad]

The main thing is that there are no victims, so what to hide, it is unpleasant to read such news.

[Murmur 55]

Asad , with such an explosion and detonation without victims, it is unlikely.

[Asad]

There are miracles, maybe the place is not crowded. Let's hope!

[Murmur 55]

ASAD, to be honest, only a miracle remains to be hoped for.

[RED_ICE]

TASS, 9 August. As a result of an emergency at an airfield in Crimea, five people were injured, including a child. Four victims were released from the hospital after providing them with the necessary medical care, the head of the Crimean Ministry of Health, Konstantin Skorupsky, told reporters.

"Five victims were delivered to the Saki regional hospital, one of them is a child. Four received outpatient care in the form of primary treatment of wounds in the form of cuts with glass fragments, all of them were of a mild degree and were sent home after rendering assistance," Skorupsky said.
One of the victims is undergoing surgery.
https://tass.ru/proisshestviya/15433263?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

[dedusik]

One person received injuries incompatible with life as a result of explosions at the airfield in Novofedorovka. This was stated by the head of the Crimea Sergey Aksyonov.

[AAK]

The latest news mentions already 1 dead

[Aag]

Quote: ASAD

The main thing is that there are no victims, so what to hide, it is unpleasant to read such news.

IMHO: that's not the point.
The main thing, ideally, is that such thoughts should not even arise in the adversary!
But ... We proceed from what we have ...
Personally, I became anxious (not counting the Maidan, on May 2 in Odessa, - it would be more correct to say, - OUTRAGE ...) when our media broadcast reports from Kyiv with old women with wooden AKMs. Some of the compatriots laughed ... That was scary! The fact is that for some time I had a chance to work as a teacher of the OVS (Fundamentals of Military Service - a pale shadow of the NVP / Initial Military Training under the USSR /) in some educational institutions ... At a rate of 118 hours, it used to be reduced to 26 (!) .
Sorry, it’s personal already, but the “mommies” especially pissed off negligent students, complete gouges, they say, “put a test, (if they didn’t pass the test, they were not allowed to the session), he will go to the army, they will teach him the truth of life!”.
As a rule, my patience ended with such a phrase: "You know what, maman (citizen, respected, mother, - according to the situation) ?!
Why do you think one hundred if neither you (family), nor kindergarten, school, could bring up ... Citizen, Man, this should be done by the army?!!! He (your son) comes there to pay his debt, and not to make up for the flaws of upbringing, education!
.. It was a long time ago .. More than 20 years ago. It seems that such a dialogue is not appropriate at all. So we have what we have ... (((

[seregatara1969]

Extinguishes the tank farm at the airfield

[stelltok]

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

And what about air defense?

[Roman_vh]

Well, what’s more, what else can the “Leader of the Redskins” say, his patriot is not working. But to understand ..... this is not a royal (leader's) business

[Asad]

The MO has already reported, it turns out that there is a detonation in the warehouse!?

[Fisherman]

in such a hot place at a bunded ammunition storage site before being suspended on airfield aircraft - anything can happen. One reassures - that this is not a US missile strike.

[Bshkaus]

The MO has already reported, it turns out that there is a detonation in the warehouse!?

Yeah, in two places at the same time?

[carstorm 11]

Yes, even at 10. At the first explosion, they scattered and after the detonation.

[Modya]

In two places, not the first, but subsequent explosions occurred at the same time, when the fire dispersed

[stelltok]

Yeah, in two places at the same time?

Rockets from one batch.

[stelltok]

Yeah, in two places at the same time?

It could very well be the same site.

[IvanSviridov]

Accident! It happens to everyone?

[Pilat2009]

Quote: ASAD

The MO has already reported, it turns out that there is a detonation in the warehouse!?

And why then the smoke from different two places goes?

[Vladimir 290]

and why did they decide that this air defense overslept. Anything could be there.

[Egoza]

Quote: Vladimir 290

and why did they decide that this air defense overslept. There could be anything

Including saboteurs could work. Not all cells have yet been identified or new ones have been sent.

[4ekist]

Denistutswoy / ... what is our air defense doing ???

Air defense is engaged in combat duty. We have to wait for the official announcement. Perhaps this is a continuation of the shelling of the air. Millerovo, Kursk. Or maybe the work of the DRG.

[Denistutswoy]

The work of the DRG, in the deep rear, at the military base... No comment. It is so obvious to me that it was the arrival of missiles. Most likely, atacms was delivered ...

[4ekist]

Denistutswoy .... The work of the drg, in the deep rear ... No comment.

What surprised you so much? The news announced that they had detonated ammunition. Where is the guarantee that this is not a bookmark.

[carstorm 11]

If this is the impact, then all the aviation of the Crimea should have taken off. Literally. All parts are lifted and moved around. On the video of which there are now hundreds and close to none. Moreover, the medical helicopter rustled in the air.

[AAK]

This is not a rocket arrival ... 3 possible options: 1 - ignition due to negligence;
2 - mine with a timer, carried by someone from the air base personnel and laid in a pile; 3 - as in Sevastopol - a small copter with a grenade or a briquette of explosives, the guard did not notice ...

[Ru_Na]

Air defense would work if there were targets, according to local reports, there were no sounds of flying planes and missiles, it just exploded sharply in silence, perhaps it was a sabotage.

[max702]

Light from Venus reflected off the upper atmosphere and caused an explosion of swamp gas. (p.)

[Third district]

Quote: max702

Light from Venus reflected off the upper atmosphere and caused an explosion of swamp gas. (p.)

"Men in Black".

[private person]

One simple question: what is our air defense doing?

Protect your peace. The question is off topic.

[Vend]

Quote from: Denistutswoy

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

It could be a diversion. There are so many sleeping terrorist cells all over Russia.

[TEX-50]

The option of sabotage is even worse than the option of an overslept air defense.

[Vend]

Quote: TEX-50

The option of sabotage is even worse than the option of an overslept air defense.

There is a

[TEX-50]

The best option is the simultaneous detonation of two cigarette butts, then detonating grass, and then the third cigarette butt!

[Zamira]

Quote: Wend

It could be a diversion. There are so many sleeping terrorist cells all over Russia.

Well, yes, if no one heard the arrivals, then I see no other option. It's hard to believe in an unextinguished cigarette. And to be more precise, I just really do not want to believe. Of course, to miss a diversion is also not good, but not following fire safety rules is just blatant negligence.

[SaLaR]

Again SPREADED

[Thrifty]

SaLaR - yes, not AGAIN, but AGAIN! !!!

[Thrifty]

"And, otherwise, beautiful marquise, everything is fine, everything is fine" ???

[Fitter65]

Quote from: Denistutswoy

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

And that there are few "sleeping" Bandera in the Crimea since 2014 left? Any saboteur could scam from the same RPG in the direction of the bomb depot. And fyr-taiga. Tu air defense really has nothing to do with it. There is no 100% cure for such sabotage. That 1 out of 2, at least 1 out of 10000 will still happen ... Here is a simple example - western journalists show how Ukrainians are returning to the territories "occupied" by Russia, you can be glad for the people - they eluded the Nazis! But the question is, how many of them are saboteurs and other agents. Let not a lot, but the fact is, they are. Someone will sleep in the first minutes, someone after a while, but besides this foam, there are specialists who are needed to carry out such actions. Moreover, they will not be performers, and they will not be explicit curators, they are all changers, who do not mind. Therefore, it is not the air defense that should shoot high, here the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs should plow deeply.

[Adrey]

Quote: Fitter65

And that there are few "sleeping" Bandera in the Crimea since 2014 left? Any saboteur could scam from the same RPG in the direction of the bomb depot. And fur-taiga.

Happy. In the resort area. At a protected military facility. Then more questions arise.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Adrey

Happy. In the resort area. At a protected military facility. Then more questions arise.

Did you watch old robbers? There, in front of everyone, the picture was taken away from the protected museum, and no one was alarmed.

[Aag]

Quote: Fitter65

Quote from: Denistutswoy

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

And that there are few "sleeping" Bandera in the Crimea since 2014 left? Any saboteur could scam from the same RPG in the direction of the bomb depot. And fyr-taiga. Tu air defense really has nothing to do with it. There is no 100% cure for such sabotage. That 1 out of 2, at least 1 out of 10000 will still happen ... Here is a simple example - western journalists show how Ukrainians are returning to the territories "occupied" by Russia, you can be glad for the people - they eluded the Nazis! But the question is, how many of them are saboteurs and other agents. Let not a lot, but the fact is, they are. Someone will sleep in the first minutes, someone after a while, but besides this foam, there are specialists who are needed to carry out such actions. Moreover, they will not be performers, and they will not be explicit curators, they are all changers, who do not mind. Therefore, it is not the air defense that should shoot high, here the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs should plow deeply.

"... Therefore, it is not the air defense that should shoot high here, the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs should plow deep here ..."
I agree.
But! ... Unfortunately, the mentioned structures are occupied by something else.
At least based on personal experience. Of course, maybe "and, at first glance,
as if not visible ... "(c).
song from t / s "The investigation was conducted by experts" ...
I repeat - from personal communication, with the mentioned offices, once respected, - now there are other priorities, tasks, aspirations ... I will not speak for everyone, - I speak for those with whom I had to ... communicate.
Hopefully these are the exceptions...

[carstorm 11]

There were no arrivals.

[Piramidon]

Quote from: Denistutswoy

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

Oh how. He has already conducted an investigation and made conclusions and filed charges. And all this without taking your butt off the couch. Slick, however.

[RoTTor]

What do counter-specialists do???

[Al manah]

"What is the difference between a special officer and a bear? A bear sleeps only in winter, and a special officer sleeps all year round."

[Cympak]

Air defense, by definition, cannot provide absolute protection: "a shield cannot defeat a sword."
The question is, what are our Aerospace Forces doing, and why didn’t they clear airfields, warehouses, bridges, railway junctions, concentration of enemy forces to an achievable depth of territory?

[Sergey3]

We have no analogues in the world. Resting on its laurels alone. And in fact, it turns out that the adversary’s missiles are better than ours and air defense is no worse. Something I haven’t heard for a long time how our calibers fly to Kyiv? Where did they get lost? The answer is simple, the United States and Germany transferred their modern air defense to Kyiv.

[Napayz]

No one saw the arrivals of missiles from 404 - neither with the eye, nor with instruments.

[isv000]

Quote from: Denistutswoy

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

Dreams that you would fly in an airplane ...

[BecmepH]

Quote: Murmur 55

Denistutswoy , the answer is obvious, they simply underestimated, and the Himarsy campaign is doing their job.

Do not grumble (read, do not whine). Or do you, like Kashpirovsky, make a diagnosis at a distance?

[sniperino]

Quote from: Denistutswoy

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

One simple answer: guarding our air lines.

The Ministry of Defense said that several aviation munitions detonated at the storage site on the territory of the airfield. According to the agency, aviation equipment at the airport was not damaged.

[Bronik]

In my time - 1972, air defense - drink vodka alone!

[Revolver]

Quote from: Denistutswoy

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

Another simple question: what does the FSB do? And isn't it time to fucking disperse them and recreate the NKVD, or at least the KGB?

[Murmur 55]

Here's your grandmother and St. George's day.

[Albert Brecht]

To be afraid of a wolf, do not go into the forest. Not a grandmother, but a girl with her grandson, sailed on Meganom and ate oysters, they squealed and demanded the dry white of the same name, but alas! And the rest - Kapsel Bay is quiet and beautiful, however, as usual.

[dmi.pris1]

Quite possibly, sabotage. The weapons depot rushed.

[bouncyhunter]

The authorities of the republic confirm this fact and ask to wait for official announcements.

Dim, let's not run ahead of the locomotive. Speculation is a thankless thing, especially without foundation.

[Bshkaus]

Dim, let's not run ahead of the locomotive. Speculation is a thankless thing, especially without reason

The first stage of shock is denial of what happened.
Still hoping that the strike on Crimea is fake?
Welcome to the new reality, it is somewhat different from the rose-colored glasses of the jingoists, it is harsh, scary, but you have to put up with it.
It is of fundamental importance to you whether they were chimars, 300 km missiles, harpoons, drones or sabotage? In all cases, we see a stunning result.

[Jager]

Where is the stunning one? All this is predictable.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Jager

Where is the stunning one? All this is predictable.

I agree completely and even expand a little.

It is predictable for those who understand that a full-fledged war is going on for Ukraine, and those bots who keep saying that there is not a war going on, but a NWO, is just stunning for them.
They behave just like those characters of the joke: "What are we for?"...
The war is on. Real.
And the answers are real.
Our uryakalki are outraged that the Ukrainians hit the Kursk region or Belgorod.
They have no war in their head, they have a NWO in their head.
And the Ukrainians have a total war in their heads.
Total.

For those who do not understand, an example. The war in 1941 was already far in the depths of the Soviet Union.
But, our pilots made a raid on Berlin.
Even if the effect in losses was ultra-small, but propaganda, it was a very necessary step at that time.
Because it was total war.
To understand what will happen and how, you need to understand the psychology of both sides.

[Anyuta Glorious]

We are not talking about NWO, but the leadership is voicing it. We know that the Victory of 1945 is a milestone. She was paid off in 1991. Now another round of war, which is 600 years old. There is nothing accidental. Everything went to war.

[Bshkaus]

We are not talking about NWO, but the leadership is voicing it. We know that the Victory of 1945 is a milestone. She was paid off in 1991. Now another round of war, which is 600 years old. There is nothing accidental. Everything went to war.

Girl, can I meet you?
Here's the thing: having been born in VO, there were no young ladies, and those that were, the regulars know by name. And then suddenly a bunch of beauties in the rank of no higher than junior officers appeared. Beauties are like a selection, to provoke "boys", you see who will be ashamed and change virtual epaulettes to a real trench :)))
And just do it nice to chat with pretty women.
Tell me, how do you like the improvements of K36d5 compared to K36M, and just the differences in KSKK?

[Anyuta Glorious]

Let's get acquainted. I am Anna. At VO for about 2 years. Maybe a little more. I rarely comment. I love reading articles and comments. Interesting. I have been working in the energy sector for the last 20 years.

[Jager]

From the side of Ukraine, don’t understand that they didn’t declare a war to us, but we have a NWO)))

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Bshkaus

Still hoping that the strike on Crimea is fake?

No , I do not hope .

Quote: Bshkaus

Welcome to the new reality

Already there . And rose-colored glasses were never familiar to me.

Quote: Bshkaus

It is fundamentally important for you whether they were chemars, 300 km missiles, harpoons, drones or otherИversion?

To me - no.

[carstorm 11]

Exactly. Nobody saw the flights. The sirens didn't work. There was no aviation in the air. Calm down warrior from tsipso.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

If this had happened to Westerners, there would have been more posts about the "sweet couple" before. There is no point in rushing to comment without knowing the information.

[anjey]

In Krajina, in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Battalions, such stuns every day and many times more and will be even more fun, the pro-American dog is barking, the Russian caravan is moving ...

[Blade3]

We see
We know
We do not have
We don't have enough

I, on the pretext ,, we ,, combat sofa housewives, determine

[sniperino]

Quote: Bshkaus

Still hoping that the strike on Crimea is fake?

A counter question, do you hope that there was some kind of "strike on the Crimea"?

[IvanSviridov]

And you still say that it was the Ukrainians who "sank" Moscow, and not she herself ignited!

[carstorm 11]

Bring explosives into the weapons depot? I have seen a lot of stupid things in my life, but going through an arms depot is still a quest even if you serve there.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: carstorm 11

Bring explosives into the weapons depot? I have seen a lot of stupid things in my life, but going through an arms depot is still a quest even if you serve there.

And if you also have vodka, then the probability increases.

[carstorm 11]

Well, it's definitely not.

[Thrifty]

Apart from the mat, nothing else comes to mind. ... Is it time to hit the notorious decision-making centers, or will we wait for the Kremlin to arrive?

[Murmur 55]

Thrifty , wait wait for the official and it will be clear what to expect.

[Asad]

Answered already, they say detonation.

[Thrifty]

A SAD-of course banged, of course. ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: ASAD

Answered already, they say detonation.

Ministry of Defense: ammunition detonation occurred at a military airfield in Crimea
In Crimea, on the territory of the Saki airfield near the village of Novofedorovka, several aviation ammunition was detonated, the Russian Defense Ministry reported. As a result of the explosion, no one was injured, aviation equipment was not damaged, the military department also said. There was no fire impact on the airfield, the Defense Ministry said.

https://vk.com/video-29534144_456285763

[Apprentice_SAM]

Hello Stepan.

One of the first versions:
“There were no arrivals from outside. The initiator of a series of explosions was the shooting of heat traps on the ground from an aircraft for an unknown reason.
A similar thing happened a few years ago at one of the military airfields in Crimea, when a technician accidentally launched a rocket from an airplane in the parking lot.
The commentary on this version mentions John McCain and the fire on the aircraft carrier Forrestal.

[IvanSviridov]

I believe in this - absolutely! It's definitely by accident!

[Thrifty]

Murmur 55 - Prepare the fork, please. ...

[Murmur 55]

Lean, ready , after "Moscow" I personally cannot believe in such coincidences.

[Thrifty]

Murmur 55 - most of all, we are interested in whether we will be able to protect the Crimean bridge? ?? And how will ours respond to this? power? ??

[Murmur 55]

Thrifty, if it OFFICIALLY exploded as a result of negligence, then Kyiv, Moscow have nothing to answer for, they will strike on duty at warehouses and accumulations. And don't worry be happy.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Yes, we will just wait for Konashenkov's next statement with threats to hit the "centers".
And everything ...
What else?

[Asad]

I haven’t watched it for a long time, has it ever confirmed such punctures?

[Taimen]

And after that, Konashenkov will become a colonel general. You look and it will reach the marshal.

[Anyuta Glorious]

You're right. I haven't listened to it for 3 months now.

[IvanSviridov]

You can replace Konashenkov with someone who will voice threats more emotionally - gnashing his teeth and rolling his bloodshot eyes. It will be a strong move.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Thrifty

Apart from the mat, nothing else comes to mind. ... Is it time to hit the notorious decision-making centers, or will we wait for the Kremlin to arrive?

Let's swear at the decision-making centers!

[Leshak]

Let's swear at the decision-making centers!

This is exactly what we can really do. And not to promise, but to do. Practical and instant answer! It will be terrible in its high-rise!

[Sergey3]

What will we hit? Calibers will not reach Kyiv, modern Western air defense has already been delivered there, and there are still few hypersonic missiles.

[Santa Fe]

Or will we wait for the arrival of the Kremlin?

There will be no strikes on the Kremlin. We did not bomb Bankova Street in Kyiv - smart and rich people are in no hurry to physically deal with each other

Here they can hit your house first with Hymars, then with Sunflower and Dagger, and everyone will be all the same

[IvanSviridov]

They could have hit.

[Bshkaus]

They probably smoked somewhere inappropriately, otherwise they will have to answer unpleasant questions "how so, through layered air defense with S400 and Shells", "what" and the classic "who is to blame and what to do now?"

[Sergej1972]

Good evening! I wonder if you write from Kyiv? You seem to have been almost in the terrorist defense there?)

[Bshkaus]

Good evening! I wonder if you write from Kyiv? You seem to have been almost in the terrorist defense there?)

Thank you, okay, I'm "writing" from Slovakia. Kyiv stands without me. Yes, and I have never been in a military battalion, as well as in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and was never going to join, just when your house is on the first line of defense, you involuntarily become a witness to so many interesting events. Or do you think I had to gouge out my own eyes so as not to see what is happening and how the Ukrainians are defending the city?
I left Kyiv at the first opportunity, on the same day when my two-year-old daughter was discharged from the hospital.
Moreover, he left officially, shaking his Russian passport everywhere - was it really funny?)))

[Tuzik]

Well, you give Bshkaus, why are you breaking the brains of the locals?! After all, Bendera and Natsiks live in Ukraine, who should have seen your passport and shot you on the spot!

[Bshkaus]

Well, you give Bshkaus, why are you breaking the brains of the locals?! After all, Bendera and Natsiks live in Ukraine, who should have seen your passport and shot you on the spot!

Yes, there is nothing to break, they broke before me :)))
For eight, eight years I constantly went there and after what I saw I said to everyone, "God forbid, we'll fit in ...". A year ago, I was returning from vacation, I found a training alarm at the checkpoint, then for another half a year I was yelling here that they had such a stock at the checkpoint that it would not seem enough.
No, damn it, "we'll take Kyiv in three days" ...
Ok, I caught the war in Kyiv, it so happened, it turned out that the house was on the front line. Only his mouth opened "ours are beaten, and even kicked in the head." I was banned back for a month, and they themselves were like this a little later: gestures of goodwill, gestures of goodwill ...
I am already silent about Moscow and Serpentine. I left for Slovakia, I live with the border, yelling with a good obscenity that equipment is constantly loaded here, whether you like suzannes, you like infantry fighting vehicles, or even French armored cars flow like a river towards Ukraine, and here we will “throw our hats” on everything.
I’m thinking of going to a psychiatrist to get checked: on the one hand, it’s like I’m a white crow here, on the other hand, as I say, everything turns out the way it does. It’s better not to mention how the Nazis tortured me, it’s worse than a nuclear explosion for the psyche of a patriot: ZSU officers, police officers and SBU officers blew dust particles off me, God forbid, what happens, they were fundamentally emphatically polite and friendly, showing that no one there was a Russian gnobide even in Bucha, and I was very close to her. And there were a lot of Russians there ... In short, we need to figure it out, let's see what the psychiatrist says, if I go for treatment, and give a certificate that I'm healthy, then everything is clear :)))

[Rusik.S]

What did they say about Crimea? "Properly covered"? As it turns out, not so reliable. And what will prevent the ukrams from hitting the Crimean bridge? If after this attack there is no serious response, then our power can be written down as slobbers and traitors.

[Murmur 55]

I wonder what our V.S. will answer ???

[Taimen]

They will remain silent or tell a bedtime story or sing a song (everything is fine, beautiful marquise). What's with the decision-making centers?

[Anyuta Glorious]

The decision-making centers are Washington and London. The fifth column loves them and will not let them offend. However, there may simply be no such possibility. Supposedly they were preparing for 8 years, but for this case they apparently didn’t get hold of trump cards in their pockets

[Taimen]

There is no need to repeat the tales of journalists who justify everything and everything, although they have already begun to ask the same question. Zelensky gives orders to the troops, he is the commander-in-chief, not Borisman from England. He has already been thrown out. And grandfather Biden is confused in his jacket.

[Anyuta Glorious]

Fairy tales? The supply of weapons to the outskirts is also a fairy tale? I categorically do not justify and I do not agree with much! However, it’s worth writing the truth here, so the administration of the site will instantly downvote and slap something. I perfectly understand the reason why Kyiv, Zelensky "do not touch". I would write to you what I think, but they will ban me here.

[Adrey]

Quote: Murmur 55

I wonder what our V.S. will answer ???

We are waiting for the next terrifying Iron NeDimon's speech

[Luminman]

And the horses, however, have already switched to outright terrorism!

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Luminman

And the horses, however, have already switched to outright terrorism!

What is terrorism in a total war to destroy the state?
We actually launched an operation to violate the integrity of the state and overthrow its political system.
This is exactly what everyone who has not "believed" in the NWO believes.
So why do you think that they cannot strike at the territory of Russia?
The fact that our people still have not understood that there is a total war in which the enemy will use all forms of resistance is generally normal?
That in fact there are no anti-sabotage measures so far, and if they exist, then, as we see, they are insufficient?
During the Second World War, ours fought with troops, and fought with partisan detachments, and blew up all sorts of Gauleiters behind enemy lines
Because it was a total war for us.
Why don't you realize that the same thing is happening now?

[zombirusrev]

You have problems with concepts, or you didn’t study at school, forgot about the “Ost” plan, or you are only studying the plant “plan” .. Total war is ... watch your hands, this is “The destruction of the population according to ethnic and a number of other principles is total. " During the Second World War, 8 million Soviet civilians were destroyed, the loss of the Red Army 8 million 10 million died for other reasons (supermortality, hunger, etc.). The war in Ukraine is the liberation of the BUSSR from Ukronazism. In addition, there has been no Ukraine since 2014, because the coup d'état swept away the legitimate legitimate power and a pro-Western puppet regime reigned ... the people call him Saloreich, and this people is Ukrainian ..

[Foul skeptic]

You have problems with concepts, or you didn’t study at school, forgot about the “Ost” plan, or you are only studying the plant “plan” .. Total war is ... watch your hands, this is “The destruction of the population according to ethnic and a number of other principles is total. "

Quote: Military Encyclopedia

Total war is a war in which all participating countries use all the resources and methods available to them to defeat the enemy.

The rest of the text makes no sense at all.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: zombirusrev

You have problems with concepts, or you didn’t study at school, forgot about the “Ost” plan, or you are only studying the plant “plan” .. Total war is ... watch your hands, this is “The destruction of the population according to ethnic and a number of other principles is total. " During the Second World War, 8 million Soviet civilians were destroyed, the loss of the Red Army 8 million 10 million died for other reasons (supermortality, hunger, etc.). The war in Ukraine is the liberation of the BUSSR from Ukronazism. In addition, there has been no Ukraine since 2014, because the coup d'état swept away the legitimate legitimate power and a pro-Western puppet regime reigned ... the people call him Saloreich, and this people is Ukrainian ..

The word "saloreich" I read for the first time on this site.
Moreover, it appeared at once, as if on command.
As well as many other things regarding the names of Ukraine and its inhabitants.
This, once again, speaks of manuals.

Total war, that means war.
Not a special operation.
Again.
For Ukraine and its inhabitants, this is total war.
There is no Ukrainian Nazism. There is a state system of the state of Ukraine, in which there is something that most Russians do not like. And most importantly, what is in Ukraine is the actions of the Ukrainian people themselves.
They themselves supported the coups, the national battalions and the policies of their government.
These are their decisions, direct or by tacit consent.
No B / Ukrainian SSR exists in the world, only in training manuals. By the way, the term used / Ukraine also appeared quite recently and also instantly sold out, as if according to manuals, among the uryakals. Which once again makes it clear about holding among stupid brats. They themselves are such a massive introduction into their texts, can not a priori.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: SovAr238A

Quote: zombirusrev

You have problems with concepts, or you didn’t study at school, forgot about the “Ost” plan, or you are only studying the plant “plan” .. Total war is ... watch your hands, this is “The destruction of the population according to ethnic and a number of other principles is total. " During the Second World War, 8 million Soviet civilians were destroyed, the loss of the Red Army 8 million 10 million died for other reasons (supermortality, hunger, etc.). The war in Ukraine is the liberation of the BUSSR from Ukronazism. In addition, there has been no Ukraine since 2014, because the coup d'état swept away the legitimate legitimate power and a pro-Western puppet regime reigned ... the people call him Saloreich, and this people is Ukrainian ..

The word "saloreich" I read for the first time on this site.
Moreover, it appeared at once, as if on command.
As well as many other things regarding the names of Ukraine and its inhabitants.
This, once again, speaks of manuals.

Total war, that means war.
Not a special operation.
Again.
For Ukraine and its inhabitants, this is total war.
There is no Ukrainian Nazism. There is a state system of the state of Ukraine, in which there is something that most Russians do not like. And most importantly, what is in Ukraine is the actions of the Ukrainian people themselves.
They themselves supported the coups, the national battalions and the policies of their government.
These are their decisions, direct or by tacit consent.
No B / Ukrainian SSR exists in the world, only in training manuals. By the way, the term used / Ukraine also appeared quite recently and also instantly sold out, as if according to manuals, among the uryakals. Which once again makes it clear about holding among stupid brats. They themselves are such a massive introduction into their texts, can not a priori.

An old Russian proverb says: "Don't go into a foreign monastery with your charter." Unfortunately, many patriots do not understand this and believe that in the 22nd century you can get into a foreign country and try to change something there. Only the United States succeeded in this, and even then not war and money. Europe, Japan, Turkey and other allies received after the war and receive huge financial assistance

[Luminman]

Quote: SovAr238A

We really started the operation

It would be necessary to decide. Who are we"? Do you really consider yourself a citizen of Russia?

[Foul skeptic]

Do you really consider yourself a citizen of Russia?

Oh, "witch-hunt" at its finest. More and Ukrainians to reproach for such a lot.

[Luminman]

Quote: Nefarious skeptic

Oh witch hunt at its finest

What's wrong with witch hunting? The fifth column must be beaten with slippers, like cockroaches ...

[Foul skeptic]

What's wrong with witch hunting?

In the absence of objectivity, since "hunters" are usually driven stupid people.

"witch hunt" - a figurative generalized name for campaigns to discredit any social groups for political or other reasons without proper evidence or justification.

[Luminman]

Quote: Nefarious skeptic

"witch hunt" - a figurative generalized name for campaigns to discredit any social groups

Witch hunting is not discrediting someone for political reasons, but a real fight against all sorts of nits from the fifth column

[Foul skeptic]

Have you decided that if you interpret the words in your own way, and not the generally accepted one, then change the generally accepted meaning?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Luminman

Quote: Nefarious skeptic

Oh witch hunt at its finest

What's wrong with witch hunting? The fifth column must be beaten with slippers, like cockroaches ...

Oh, anyone who disagrees with your policy is written in the fifth column.
A person who wants the victory of his country, he's just not like that...
He does not have a million bonnets and battle caps, he does not have a licking admiration for Konashenkov.
He is not like us, he does not shout urya, he is the fifth column.
With such urya-patriots, our country does not need enemies ....

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Luminman

Quote: SovAr238A

We really started the operation

It would be necessary to decide. Who are we"? Do you really consider yourself a citizen of Russia?

Yes, I have been a citizen of my country for 51 years.
First the Soviet Union, then Russia.
I am an integral part of my country. And she, my country, is an integral part of my life.
And the actions of the leadership of my country are our actions. Our country.
Or for some, such an alignment is hard to perceive?

[Luminman]

Yes, I have been a citizen of my country for 51 years. First the Soviet Union, then Russia

You are some strange citizen of Russia

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Luminman

Yes, I have been a citizen of my country for 51 years. First the Soviet Union, then Russia

You are some strange citizen of Russia

I am a normal citizen of my country
Who believes that if he went to fight, then you need to fight, and not perform a sword dance.
And if you went to fight, then expect from the enemy everything that you can imagine, and that you cannot imagine - also wait and get ready.
Study the enemy for real.
Do not defame the enemy, do not show him as an idiot.
Because this is very dangerous.
Ukrainians are exactly the same residents of the Soviet Union, they also went through the entire Second World War. Probably a quarter of those who are now fighting on the part of Ukraine are grandchildren and children of those very Soviet marriages, when marriages between Ukrainians and Russians were just a common occurrence, when students received assignments throughout the country and got married there.
And they are the same Slavs as we are.
And we and they are of the same blood and the same mentality.
And they and we will fight for our country in exactly the same proportions.
I'm just actually a much more Soviet person, and I remember the Soviet years.
And I don't forget them when I look at the situation now and see realities, not propaganda.

[Engineer]

Who believes that if he went to fight, then you need to fight, and not perform a sword dance.

You are an interesting person (s)
I'm even ready to respect yours for that exclamation crying out in the desert.
But explain to me how, in your case, mutually exclusive paragraphs and a highly selective application of critical thinking coexist.
Are you getting ready? Are you fighting?
Ukraine an existential threat?

We really started the operation

Who are "we? Do you belong to the Russian elite?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Engineer

Who believes that if he went to fight, then you need to fight, and not perform a sword dance.

You are an interesting person (s)
I'm even ready to respect yours for that exclamation crying out in the desert.
But explain to me how, in your case, mutually exclusive paragraphs and a highly selective application of critical thinking coexist.
Are you getting ready? Are you fighting?
Ukraine an existential threat?

We really started the operation

Who are "we? Do you belong to the Russian elite?

I am part of this country.
My country is now at war.
Everything that happens in the country, externally and internally, directly or indirectly concerns me.
And it really touches. These are not common words.
And many people that I know do the same.
This is reality.
And then it will get worse.
It will be worse inside the country.
And because I passionately desire victory in this "NWO", but observing the realities of both the NWO and what is happening inside the country, our country with you, yes, I believe that the NWO in Ukraine is now more and more more a threat to the Russian Federation, its integrity and the current system.
Well, the way of life of the population. Habitual.
Which does not want to get up in the situation of the war and post-war years.

[Engineer]

and what does it mean to "stand in the situation of the war and post-war years"?
Tighten up and win? Well, after all, you are straining only in the internet.
Do you realize that you are not fundamentally different from some, God forgive me, Hansales?

And because I passionately desire victory in this "NWO", but observing the realities of both the NWO and what is happening inside the country, our country with you, yes, I believe that the NWO in Ukraine is now more and more more a threat to the Russian Federation, its integrity and the current system.

And now the most important thing. NWO in Ukraine is not a threat to Russia and the current system, this is Russia itself and the current system. And no other nature of the NWO is possible in principle. Everything is predetermined by the logic of events over the past 20 years. And these events, in turn, are predetermined by the events that preceded them. What is happening now is not just objective, it is the only possible reality without any alternatives. It will be so, but it cannot be otherwise.

[Pilat2009]

Quote: SovAr238A

Quote: Luminman

Quote: SovAr238A

We really started the operation

It would be necessary to decide. Who are we"? Do you really consider yourself a citizen of Russia?

Yes, I have been a citizen of my country for 51 years.
First the Soviet Union, then Russia.
I am an integral part of my country. And she, my country, is an integral part of my life.
And the actions of the leadership of my country are our actions. Our country.
Or for some, such an alignment is hard to perceive?

It's hard. Why should I consider the actions of the government my actions? Remember the Afghan war and how many resources it gobbled up.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Why don't you realize that the same thing is happening now?

Something really does not catch up with your high-flown speeches ...
Zelensky on the GI-20 is torn to Putin; today he closed the transit of oil - the SMS about the payment did not go through, otherwise he would have continued to transit; 97 out of 100 visitors to the military registration and enlistment offices of Ukraine are trying to get away from the army; columns of cars with civilians from the "other side" are rushing to get to the "repaid territory", and you are like this, "in a dusty helmet", solemnly hoarsely: "Total viina"!

Is it necessary to protect airfields in "wartime" mode?
Must be a fact...

[SovAr238A]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

Why don't you realize that the same thing is happening now?

Something really does not catch up with your high-flown speeches ...
Zelensky on the GI-20 is torn to Putin; today he closed the transit of oil - the SMS about the payment did not go through, otherwise he would have continued to transit; 97 out of 100 visitors to the military registration and enlistment offices of Ukraine are trying to get away from the army; columns of cars with civilians from the "other side" are rushing to get to the "repaid territory", and you are like this, "in a dusty helmet", solemnly hoarsely: "Total viina"!

Is it necessary to protect airfields in "wartime" mode?
Must be a fact...

Why are you down-to-earth people getting into the news about the G20? About the transit of oil or gas?
It's all entourage.
Political. Which, not a single person, all the political elite, will never understand anyway.
We really need to look only at what and how is happening in the combat zone. Why are they fighting, why are we fighting, and how.
This is a must watch.
For you are on the Military Review website.
And what you wrote about 97%, you are again distorting the news.
It was also literally said there that almost all real volunteers had already gone into the army over the past six months. Nearly a million left.
And among those who remained, there are few suitable ...

[House 25 Sq. 380]

It was literally said there.

It literally says that out of 100 who came to the military registration and enlistment office, only three (!) will go as volunteers ....
And you are like this, "total war!" ...

And Stalin was like this: "Vinnie, my friend, will Benito rush to meet us in Tehran?"

[SovAr238A]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

It was literally said there.

It literally says that out of 100 who came as volunteers, only three will go (!)....
And you are like this, "total war!" ...
And Stalin was like this: "Vinnie, my friend, will Benito rush to meet us in Tehran?"

You only forgot that this is six months after the start of accepting volunteers ...
What you are doing is called understatement. Distorting reality.

And most importantly, that you yourself believe in your shortcomings.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

You only forgot that this is six months after the start of accepting volunteers ...
What you are doing is called understatement. Distorting reality.

I haven't forgotten anything...
It was you (for some reason) who immediately started about "distorting the news", although the words I cited are a fact from the direct speech of the military commissar ...

If you are interested in "six months later", then 97 come just six months later ...
And then, judging by the statistics, another 197 were not even invited to the "total viyna" ...
But the soul is not very worried about something, because 3 (three !!!)

And most importantly, that you yourself believe in your shortcomings.

Write about yourself, do not go into the "psychologists": someone else's soul is darkness ...

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Nearly a million left.

Sorry: I didn’t pay attention to this thesis of yours: tell me, if now the number of all armed formations in Ukraine is slightly higher than 700 thousand, and before the start of the NMD it was approx. 200 thousand, then where did a million volunteers go, and why, in this case, are 5 waves of mobilization continuously carried out in Ukraine?

[Chronos]

Quote: SovAr238A

Quote: Luminman

And the horses, however, have already switched to outright terrorism!

What is terrorism in a total war to destroy the state?
We actually launched an operation to violate the integrity of the state and overthrow its political system.
This is exactly what everyone who has not "believed" in the NWO believes.
So why do you think that they cannot strike at the territory of Russia?
The fact that our people still have not understood that there is a total war in which the enemy will use all forms of resistance is generally normal?
That in fact there are no anti-sabotage measures so far, and if they exist, then, as we see, they are insufficient?
During the Second World War, ours fought with troops, and fought with partisan detachments, and blew up all sorts of Gauleiters behind enemy lines
Because it was a total war for us.
Why don't you realize that the same thing is happening now?

Nobody canceled the rules of warfare. If there are no such rules for Ukraine (and no one is going to completely destroy it), then it is a terrorist state. Then there is nothing to mess with them.

[Foul skeptic]

Nobody canceled the rules of warfare.

What rules of warfare prohibit attacking enemy military airfields?

[Chronos]

Quote: A vile skeptic

Nobody canceled the rules of warfare.

What rules of warfare prohibit attacking enemy military airfields?

Through a terrorist attack?
For the moment we have:
1. Information from the Ministry of Defense about the absence of damaged military equipment and injured servicemen.
2. Information from the Ministry of Health of Crimea about five injured civilians, including a child.

[Foul skeptic]

Through a terrorist attack?

By what criteria is an attack on a military airfield classified as a terrorist attack? Maybe, before writing nonsense, at least get acquainted with the terminology?

For the moment we have:
1. Information from the Ministry of Defense about the absence of damaged military equipment and injured servicemen.
2. Information from the Ministry of Health of Crimea about five injured civilians, including a child.

1) And?
2) And?

[Chronos]

I wrote below. According to the criteria of the method - if the DRG is of course confirmed. That is why these drgshniki will not have the status of a combatant when caught, but will go to trial. And sabotage is a form of terrorism. That's what the law says.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

I can not believe it. Am I sure I'm reading this on the MILITARY forum? You are aware that in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation there are SOF (Special Operations Forces). You are aware that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation officially defines the term SO as follows:

Special operations of troops (forces) - a set of special actions of troops (forces) coordinated in terms of goals, tasks, place and time, carried out according to a single plan and plan to achieve certain goals. Special actions of troops (forces) are activities carried out by specially designated, organized, trained and equipped forces that use methods and methods of combat operations that are not typical for conventional forces (reconnaissance andsabotage, subversive, counter-terrorism, counter-sabotage, counter-intelligence, guerrilla, anti-guerrilla and other actions).

You, then, have now called the MTR of the Russian Federation (and several dozen other countries) a terrorist organization?

[Chronos]

Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel

I can not believe it. Am I sure I'm reading this on the MILITARY forum? You are aware that in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation there are SOF (Special Operations Forces). You are aware that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation officially defines the term SO as follows:

Special operations of troops (forces) - a set of special actions of troops (forces) coordinated in terms of goals, tasks, place and time, carried out according to a single plan and plan to achieve certain goals. Special actions of troops (forces) are activities carried out by specially designated, organized, trained and equipped forces that use methods and methods of combat operations that are not typical for conventional forces (reconnaissance andsabotage, subversive, counter-terrorism, counter-sabotage, counter-intelligence, guerrilla, anti-guerrilla and other actions).

You, then, have now called the MTR of the Russian Federation (and several dozen other countries) a terrorist organization?

See in another topic. MTRs even behind the front line operate in uniforms that unequivocally identify them as combatants of the RF Armed Forces. The Ukrop DRG could only operate in Crimea by dressing in civilian clothes. These are terrorists who have lost the status of combatants.

[Yaroslav Tekkel]

We do not know and we are not supposed to know how the current MTRs operate and what they wear on assignments (I hope there is no need to explain that the advertising reports on Zvezda are far from carrying all the information). But about the Soviet special forces, it is known for sure that, for example, during the assault on Amin's palace, the attackers were dressed in the uniform of the Afghan army. What now, the Soviet special forces are terrorists?

The practice of depriving the status of combatants of persons dressed in civilian or someone else's uniform is very ancient and has nothing to do with terrorists (then they didn’t even know such words). And yet, all these centuries, such disguises have been used by everyone. Here, for example, the official channel of the Zvezda Defense Ministry says:

Shortly before the occupation of Kyiv by German troops, the foreign intelligence agencies formed a special detachment, whose members were not only to obtain valuable information about the future plans of the enemy, but also to carry out the elimination of enemy soldiers and officers. Already in September 1941, a combat reconnaissance and sabotage group began to covert operations in Kyiv, led by Ivan Danilovich Kudrya (operational pseudonym "Maxim"), who was not even thirty years old by the beginning of the active phase of sabotage operations.
...
In parallel with the collection of data, the Maxima group was also engaged in the elimination of the German military. They didn’t make any special distinctions in ranks and ranks - almost immediately after the capture of Kyiv, an explosive device planted in a utility room went off in one of the German commandant’s offices, and a week later a cinema filled with Nazi soldiers flew into the air.

I hope you don’t think that they carried out sabotage activities in occupied Kyiv in Budyonnivka with red stars?

[Chronos]

The explosion in the cinema in Kiev, if I am not mistaken, was carried out with the help of a pre-laid VU with a remote control. The Maxima group operated until the adoption of the additional protocol of 1949. About the assault on Amin's palace, you need to refresh your memory. There are no facts of explosions by our SOF forces when the saboteurs are dressed in civilian clothes. And about dill gaariks it will be seen when they are caught and dragged to court. They have nowhere to hide, they will not be able to return to the territory controlled by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And our law on countering terrorism unequivocally classifies such actions.

[Foul skeptic]

MTRs, even behind the front line, operate in uniforms that unambiguously identify them as combatants of the RF Armed Forces

Your level of competence you have confirmed finally and irrevocably

[Chronos]

Quote: A vile skeptic

MTRs, even behind the front line, operate in uniforms that unambiguously identify them as combatants of the RF Armed Forces

Your level of competence you have confirmed finally and irrevocably

You can think what you want. Let's just wait for what legal assessment of the actions of the UkroDRG will be given by the competent authorities.

[Foul skeptic]

Let's just wait for what legal assessment of the actions of the UkroDRG will be given by the competent authorities.

The competent authorities give the legal assessment that does not run counter to the state necessity.
Here are the competent authorities assessing the activities of the partisan order bearer Varvara Vyrvich

Her activities have not ceased to be partisan because of such a "legal assessment"?

[IvanSviridov]

So the US Congress claims the same thing!

[Adrey]

Quote: Chronos

1. Information from the Ministry of Defense about the absence of damaged military equipment and injured servicemen.

According to the Ministry of Defense, we generally have no losses over the past 4 months

[kravch67k]

What was the child doing at the military airfield?

[Chronos]

Quote: kravch67k

What was the child doing at the military airfield?

Presumably was in the radius of expansion of detonated ammunition.

[military_cat]

Quote: Chronos

Quote: kravch67k

What was the child doing at the military airfield?

Presumably was in the radius of expansion of detonated ammunition.

And the detonated ammunition in the warehouse is not a legitimate military target? And shouldn't they, by chance, under the same conventions on the rules of warfare, be kept at a safe distance from civilians?

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Chronos

Quote: A vile skeptic

Nobody canceled the rules of warfare.

What rules of warfare prohibit attacking enemy military airfields?

Through a terrorist attack?
For the moment we have:
1. Information from the Ministry of Defense about the absence of damaged military equipment and injured servicemen.
2. Information from the Ministry of Health of Crimea about five injured civilians, including a child.

By sabotage. You don’t know how many children and civilians died from calibers

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Chronos

Quote: SovAr238A

Quote: Luminman

And the horses, however, have already switched to outright terrorism!

What is terrorism in a total war to destroy the state?
We actually launched an operation to violate the integrity of the state and overthrow its political system.
This is exactly what everyone who has not "believed" in the NWO believes.
So why do you think that they cannot strike at the territory of Russia?
The fact that our people still have not understood that there is a total war in which the enemy will use all forms of resistance is generally normal?
That in fact there are no anti-sabotage measures so far, and if they exist, then, as we see, they are insufficient?
During the Second World War, ours fought with troops, and fought with partisan detachments, and blew up all sorts of Gauleiters behind enemy lines
Because it was a total war for us.
Why don't you realize that the same thing is happening now?

Nobody canceled the rules of warfare. If there are no such rules for Ukraine (and no one is going to completely destroy it), then it is a terrorist state. Then there is nothing to mess with them.

Who in Ukraine thinks in your opinion?
They believe that the Russians have come to destroy Ukraine for good.
Therefore, they fight, and do not surrender. Therefore, they do not leave Donetsk for half a year.
Half a year.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Who in Ukraine thinks in your opinion?
They believe that the Russians have come to destroy Ukraine for good.
Therefore, they fight, and do not surrender. Therefore, they do not leave Donetsk for half a year.
Half a year.

10 million who fled from Ukraine ....

[SovAr238A]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

Who in Ukraine thinks in your opinion?
They believe that the Russians have come to destroy Ukraine for good.
Therefore, they fight, and do not surrender. Therefore, they do not leave Donetsk for half a year.
Half a year.

10 million who fled from Ukraine ....

You did not even understand that you just confirmed my words with your answer
These 10 million who escaped are just the contingent that believes that the Russians came to destroy Ukraine and they fled. The women and children fled. And according to statistics, 90% are women and children.
From Russian aggression, as they believe
Well, or that 1 million men of different ages who are not ready to die in a war with a losing option in advance (in their opinion).

[House 25 Sq. 380]

You did not even understand that you just confirmed my words with your answer
These 10 million who escaped are just the contingent that believes that the Russians came to destroy Ukraine and they fled. The women and children fled. And according to statistics, 90% are women and children.
From Russian aggression, as they believe
Well, or that 1 million men of different ages who are not ready to die in a war with a losing option in advance (in their opinion)

Of these, 3 million to the territory of Russia ...

[Pilat2009]

So nobody needs a war. And far from 10 million.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

I can’t do anything: what numbers were announced, these are what I brought ...

[Chronos]

And they also believe that it is necessary to kill "the whole Rusnya", the Untermensch. Which is confirmed by the videos of the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves. Neo-Nazism is the cornerstone of modern Ukrainian society and state. The Germans in 1944 also stubbornly resisted and did not surrender Kyiv. What's next?

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Chronos

And they also believe that it is necessary to kill "the whole Rusnya", the Untermensch. Which is confirmed by the videos of the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves. Neo-Nazism is the cornerstone of modern Ukrainian society and state. The Germans in 1944 also stubbornly resisted and did not surrender Kyiv. What's next?

Naturally, they want to kill the Russians that came to their land. Or did you think they would kiss us on the gums?

[Inokkenty]

Do not pistiti, we began to provide assistance to the DPR and LPR, against which Ukraine unleashed a war and killed civilians

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Inokkenty

Do not pistiti, we began to provide assistance to the DPR and LPR, against which Ukraine unleashed a war and killed civilians

Are you really like this?

[military_cat]

Quote: Inokkenty

Do not pistiti, we began to provide assistance to the DPR and LPR, against which Ukraine unleashed a war and killed civilians

Turning on the fool is appropriate from a position of strength when it is combined with an unspoken imposing grin "we know that this is bullshit, and you know that we know that this is bullshit, and what will you do to us?" But when they do start doing it, the inclusion of a fool turns into inappropriate shameful foolishness.

[kravch67k]

Let's call things by their proper names. Sabotage and terrorism are somewhat different.

[IvanSviridov]

Certainly different. But not for the parties involved in a protracted armed conflict. In practice, the enemy always considers a saboteur as a terrorist.

[opuonmed]

mda shas will otmazyvatsya

[Ryazan87]

This is what was issued:
"On August 9, at about 15.20, on the territory of the Saki airfield near the Novofedorovka settlement, several aviation ammunition detonated on a bunded storage site.
No one was injured in the explosion. Aviation equipment at the airport was not damaged.
Measures are being taken to extinguish the fire and find out the causes of the explosion."
All is well, beautiful marquise.

[Quinto]

We do not change traditions ... unfortunately

[Murmur 55]

Ryazantsev87 , everything is clear, we disagree ?!

[Ryazan87]

Actually, it's enough to watch videos (which are now coming out in batches) in order to evaluate this "version". MO again forgot a little that they do not live in 1970.

[Quinto]

Especially two centers of detonation located at a distance from each other ... should not raise questions at all

[Ryazan87]

And about aviation technology: this appeared:

As for "no one was hurt" - it's definitely not true - 9 victims, 1 of them died (so far these are the numbers).

[Arkady007]

1. Judging by the shape of the cook, this is not the aircraft that was based at this airfield.
2. In Novofedorivka, caponiers are bunded, but not in the photo.

[Ryazan87]

1. In the shape of a cook, this is a Su-24. There were such planes in Novofedorovka.
2.Here is a photo in normal condition:

[Arkady007]

1. Which one is the Su-24?
2. If you mean this gas station and that fire in the picture, then all 10 burned down there.

[Apprentice_SAM]

Quote: Arkady007

1. Judging by the shape of the cook, this is not the aircraft that was based at this airfield.
2. In Novofedorivka, caponiers are bunded, but not in the photo.

Hello Arkady!
Of course, I am not a specialist in aerial photography, and in aviation engineering I am a layman, but I could, more or less, link the photo given by your opponent (with extinguishing a damaged aircraft) to only one place on a satellite image (general view of damage and destruction after emergency) - this is the leftmost lane of the gas (?) Parking lot: there are markings, the embankment is reinforced with reinforced concrete slabs, the distance from the nose of the aircraft to the embankment, it seems, is the same (judging by the concrete slabs, although I admit that there is a difference in 1-2 plates).
There is another place with embankment having concrete slabs. In the general picture of damage, this is a caponier in the upper right corner, next to the hangar (now destroyed (?)), but there are no markings, and there are no traces of damaged equipment.

[carstorm 11]

And what did you see there?

[Pulkovo1942]

Aviation equipment at the airport was not damaged.

If, in fact, the arrival took place at the warehouse, then the aviation equipment was really not damaged. They are always built at a great distance.

[minus]

Google maps roughly allows you to estimate the distance. Approximately 400 meters to the runway and from a kilometer to two and a half to scattered parking lots.

[Chronos]

Quote: Ryazanets87

This is what was issued:
"On August 9, at about 15.20, on the territory of the Saki airfield near the Novofedorovka settlement, several aviation ammunition detonated on a bunded storage site.
No one was injured in the explosion. Aviation equipment at the airport was not damaged.
Measures are being taken to extinguish the fire and find out the causes of the explosion."
All is well, beautiful marquise.

What can MO say now? If there was no missile strike, and traces of sabotage will be visible only when the fire is extinguished.

[Arkady007]

And what should representatives of the Moscow Region say to the press now?
When the Internet is littered with videos of explosions, fires and burnt equipment, the main question is how this could happen.
And there are not many logical options.
Not missiles, not shelling. Not negligence, because in different corners at a great distance and almost simultaneously.

[tihonmarine]

A series of powerful explosions and a fire at a military airfield in Crimea (PHOTO, VIDEO) | Russian spring
A series of powerful explosions thundered in the area of ​​​​the Crimean military airfield in Novofedorovka, a fire broke out.

Strong smoke is visible from the neighboring cities of Evpatoria and Saki.

According to preliminary data, the enemy launched up to seven missile strikes.

Russian Spring monitors the situation in Crimea

[poquello]

Quote: tihonmarine

According to preliminary data, the enemy launched up to seven missile strikes.

Russian Spring monitors the situation in Crimea

probably everyone is on vacation, the accountant is monitoring the situation

[From Tomsk]

Medvedev, I feel that today he will get drunk and break Twitter

[kventinasd]

In the Crimea, in the area of ​​​​Novofedorovka, where a military airfield is located, at least ten explosions thundered.

Another bungling of cardboard generals. In the cart they write about the main option with sabotage, but the option with the arrival of missiles is also not ruled out. Abdristovich spoke yesterday. that Ukraine already has missiles for long-range highmars and the "wait for surprises" type
Probably nothing will happen to anyone again and the CPR will remain as always untouched and we will continue to pump gas through Ukraine as expected, otherwise the partners will suddenly be offended.
The sinking of the flagship was probably not enough. Apparently, the hour is not far off, which will soon fly over the Crimean bridge.

[IvanSviridov]

Well, what if the enemy believes that he is waging war with us? And he has something to lead her? We obviously do not have the opportunity to destroy its organized resistance by conventional means. What's left? nuclear weapons. And there its own unappetizing chain of consequences will follow.

[rocket757]

A series of explosions rocked Crimea

. Whatever the reason, option, would not be, it will be the human factor first of all !!!
And finally, with the naval, Black Sea affairs, everything somehow goes wrong with us !!!
Rather, a complex of problems inside that a skilled adversary could take advantage of.

[Asad]

Written off for detonation, the commission worked in record time!

[Chronos]

Quote: ASAD

Written off for detonation, the commission worked in record time!

The cause of the detonation has not yet been officially determined. They will put out the fire, they will sort it out, look for details of IEDs, and so on.

[carstorm 11]

This is a report from the field. There are no nastradamus in MO. They were reported, they voiced. Further analysis.

[rocket757]

So the analysis is correct, BUT ... we have a lot of those who do not trust the official structures / bodies.
Unfortunately, there are enough real, objective reasons for this.
However, it is generally common throughout the world ....

[carstorm 11]

Well, there were always enough.

[rocket757]

In general, the topic is endless and they see it differently.

[rocket757]

And where did you find the reports / statements of some commission?
What, did you really want to write something convincing? So you failed...

[Shamil88]

Now Bastrykin will initiate a criminal case and the Khokh.lys will be frightened, but seriously, it’s even worse, impunity breeds permissiveness, from there it’s almost 300 km in a straight line to the nearest Khokh.ov positions, which means they gave them long-range missiles, all airfields of the country’s border regions are under threat , the VKS will have to relocate inside the country, it will take longer to fly, less time to patrol, in general, nothing good, and those who sit here and say that we have nowhere to hurry can be safely sent on an erotic journey. I remember Medvedev threatened that judgment day would begin for Ukraine if they dare to strike at the Crimea. Balabols are spineless.

[IvanSviridov]

"I remember Medvedev threatened ..." I just admit that he threatened without words. Only in response to Judgment Day will all sorts of bad things happen for us. And that's how I understand him. The war is indecently dragging on. Something needs to be decided.

[Andrey Andreev_2]

Self-detonation? Cruiser Moscow also detonated? Some kind of noodles on the ears of people ... They hold them for idiots ..

[Bshkaus]

Self-detonation? Cruiser Moscow also detonated? Some kind of noodles on the ears of people ... They hold them for idiots ..

Yes

[ZAV69]

Quote: Andrey Andreev_2

The cruiser Moscow also detonated

Yes, that’s something no one boasted of such a win. So the question is still open.

[IvanSviridov]

"They hold them for idiots .." Which speaks of professionalism and a real assessment of the circumstances.

[Eva Star]

Like Crimea is Russia, will there be an answer? The West gave the Nazis 300+ rockets, isn't it time for the West to answer for the murder of Russian soldiers? Maybe it's time to move on to the destruction of administrations in Ukraine? Or, for example, to destroy all electrical substations in western Ukraine, so that Lviv would drown in its own shit without electricity. Or express concern? Maybe it's time to kill the gas pipe from Norway in neutral waters, and thereby start a gas hybrid war. I respect Putin as a president, in my opinion one of the best in history, but his flirting with the West leads to the victims of Russian citizens and the military. We don't need Europe. We will live without it. We need revenge on Europe. It was Europe that unleashed two world wars. It was Europe that killed 30 million Russians during World War II. Is it time for Europe to pay?

[Bshkaus]

We don't need Europe. We will live without it.

I went and threw away my smartphone, or a computer made using Western technologies, from which you wrote this comment.
Yes, here's another, but why is the nickname in the hated Latin alphabet and the damned Anglo-Saxon language?

[Eva Star]

I paid for it. I will easily throw away my PC and phone if it helps to destroy the Europe I hate. This is not a price.

[Bshkaus]

I paid for it

So you are also a sponsor of the enemies of Russia?!

[Eva Star]

The Chinese are not enemies

[Sergej1972]

Most of the computers and smartphones used by Russians are made in friendly China.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Sergej1972

Most of the computers and smartphones used by Russians are made in friendly China.

Physically assembled.
But, all the real profit from them, in the west.
Among computers, only the Lenovo assembler leaves a margin in China.
All other computer assemblers - the Anglo-Saxons have all the profits.
All computer components, processors, memory, video, hard drives - almost all Anglo-Saxon, except for Samsung and a couple more.
On smartphones, close, all patent payments, even for purely Chinese brands ala Xiaomi, also go to the Anglo-Saxons. And even for the same Xiaomi, a huge share of the profits diverges from dividend funds, with Western capital.
You simply know too little about who owns the profits in the economy.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote from Eva Star

will there be an answer?

I think no. In general, I got the impression that the red line of the GDP runs through Moscow and the Kremlin in particular, if they hit Moscow with rockets, then officials of all stripes, politicians, big businessmen and other "elites" will begin to shake the Kremlin and demand the toughest measures be taken .. and while they are hitting the Belgorod, Kursk, Rostov regions, sabotage is being staged in the Crimea (and maybe not only sabotage ...), not to mention the Donbass and attacks on the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, then everything is normal. At least no special measures (except for strengthening air defense) and a statement that everything is under control were made ... decision-making centers in Kyiv are doing fine, Western assistance with heavy weapons is available 24 hours a day, and apparently everything suits everyone. ... at least that's how I see it.

[Taimen]

As Gorbachev used to say in a shootout: “-It’s all right, there is a consensus.” The same thing is being repeated now. What do you want from the traders and cooperators.

[Chronos]

Quote: Aleksandr21

Quote from Eva Star

will there be an answer?

I think no. In general, I got the impression that the red line of the GDP runs through Moscow and the Kremlin in particular, if they hit Moscow with rockets, then officials of all stripes, politicians, big businessmen and other "elites" will begin to shake the Kremlin and demand the toughest measures be taken .. and while they are hitting the Belgorod, Kursk, Rostov regions, sabotage is being staged in the Crimea (and maybe not only sabotage ...), not to mention the Donbass and attacks on the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, then everything is normal. At least no special measures (except for strengthening air defense) and a statement that everything is under control were made ... decision-making centers in Kyiv are doing fine, Western assistance with heavy weapons is available 24 hours a day, and apparently everything suits everyone. ... at least that's how I see it.

I do not agree. It looks like there are fatalists and Taoists in the Kremlin. I'm not kidding. Putin remembers the times of CTO in the Caucasus, when hostages were taken in Moscow and the metro was blown up. But he just continued his line as if nothing had happened. So here.

[Aleksandr21]

But these "fatalists and Taoists" are constantly one step behind ... almost the entire post-Soviet space is either under the West (USA) or under the East (China), and everything was lost under their rule ... and if we recall the events of August 2008 , then incompleteness is clearly visible (i.e. why didn’t they reach Tbilisi? why is Saakashvili still running around?), in 2014 they miscalculated so much with Ukraine, although everyone should have understood the consequences of Ukraine’s leaving under the United States, and actions are constantly developing impression: two steps forward - a step back, and a freeze of movement ... so the gurus are so-so with them. And to lose the assets of the Central Bank of $ 300 billion - despite the fact that it was we who made the move ... it was necessary to try hard, but we succeeded.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

I will say a terrible thing: this money is nonsense ...
This is very insulting, but on a national scale - nonsense ...
100 billion managed to withdraw, 300 - no ...
And it's really difficult: you can't do it quickly and without attracting attention....

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

don't do it quickly and without attracting attention....

and according to your CBO, a month before the start, you started planning? such things not less than planned in a year, in mentally adequate people ..

[House 25 Sq. 380]

and according to your CBO, a month before the start, you started planning? such things are planned for at least a year in mentally adequate people ..

I think this operation was planned in detail from at least October 2021, but politically it could have been from the spring of 2021...

Много это или мало?

For example, the PRC, without attracting attention, just in 6 months from the beginning of the year threw off US Treasury bonds for exactly $100 billion out of $1.080 billion (that is, less than 10% of the available) ...

[2 Level Advisor]

and if attracting attention were thrown off, what would change?

[House 25 Sq. 380]

and if attracting attention pulled off, then what would change?

And to whom?

[2 Level Advisor]

I mean to whom? Officially, at the end of 2021, Russia owned Treasuries worth only $3,9 billion, according to data from the US Treasury. that is, a very small part was stored in bonds - where did you get that everything?

https://www.rbc.ru/economics/27/02/2022/621a5d149a7947339ae7351c
the rest is currency .. what was difficult to buy NOT dollars? the same yuan with rupees .. or something else .. gold / silver / platinum .. yes, anything ..

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Owned stocks and bonds Companies, and not Treasuries of the US Treasury, as well as bonds of the ECB and other state banks in Europe and Japan ...

What are you speaking about? Who will buy them in such a short time in such a volume ??

[2 Level Advisor]

and that they owned a controlling stake in apple? What's the hardest thing to lose a stock in six months?
The New York Stock Exchange ranks first with a market capitalization of $25,62 trillion. The Nasdaq is in second place with a market capitalization of $19,51 trillion. In third place is the HKEX financial holding, which combines the Hong Kong Stock and Futures Exchange, as well as the London Metal Exchange. The market capitalization of HKEX is $6,76 trillion.
This is a total of 50 trillion. 300 billion is about 0,7% - if you drain half a year, then 0,1% per month of the total amount of Western exchanges .. do you think this is a lot? It's rude, but I think you get the point...

[House 25 Sq. 380]

This is not just "rude", this is a banal misunderstanding of the financial market....
Russia does not trade on the stock exchange - it's like once ....
A broker trades on the stock exchange, to which the depositary bank gives instructions ....
No matter how much the companies whose securities are traded on the stock exchange cost, this does not mean at all that transactions are made with them for this amount ...
There are a lot of requirements of regulators and exchanges on the "limits" of the amount of transactions on a trading day, on a company, on a bank, on a broker, on a price, etc...
And the funny thing is, when you sell something on the NYSE, you get - right - US dollars, which you will have to withdraw (again, regulators and banks, the tax office and registrars), change them to another currency and buy new assets ...
But there are papers that, in principle, cannot be sold before a certain period, there are papers of various pension funds that require special exit procedures, etc...
I repeat, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation managed to pull out more than 100 billion in 5 months - this is, in principle, tolerable ...
Retrospectively: in August 2021, the United States withdrew its troops from Afghanistan, freeing its hands, and, apparently, somewhere in September, our authorities realized that it would soon break out...

[Chronos]

With reserves, alas, no options. The Central Bank needs foreign exchange reserves to maintain the financial system. And the reserves are called currency reserves, as you understand, because they are not stored in rubles at all. Some were saved by converting to yuan, but the main reserve currencies are also understandable. Resetting foreign exchange reserves in front of the CBO is also a so-so option, and it would hardly be given so easy to do. Central Bank reserves are frozen not only in dollars, but also in euros, pounds, yens and Swiss francs, that is, in all major reserve currencies.

[forty-eighth]

don't do it quickly and without attracting attention....

that is, the fact that the concentration of troops was recorded on all satellites, these are all trifles ... The fact that since November the Western media have been choking about Russia's preparations for a special operation is not significant ...
THE MAIN THING WAS ON FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS DO NOT SLEEP!!! 111

[House 25 Sq. 380]

THE MAIN THING WAS DON'T BURN IN FINANCIAL TRANSACTIONS!!! 111

And here "burn"?

Over 100 billion were secretly withdrawn, and to find a buyer under the conditions: "sirs, soon we will attack Ukraine, and so that YOU, gracious sovereigns, do not freeze our assets, we want to sell them to YOU, otherwise YOU can get them for free" ...

And everyone is like: "all right, excellent plan, sir!"...

[forty-eighth]

so that YOU, gracious sovereigns, do not freeze our assets, we want to sell them to YOU, otherwise YOU can get them for free.

Turks, Arabs, Jews ... Yes, at least the same Chinese, Laotians, Vietnamese or Thais. Indians, Pakistanis, Brazilians, Kazakhs, South Africans. The world did not end in the west.
Bought and sold at a small discount. And then our guys come out for our money and kill

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Turks, Arabs, Jews ... Yes, at least the same Chinese, Laotians, Vietnamese or Thais. Indians, Pakistanis, Brazilians, Kazakhs, South Africans. The world didn't end in the west

If you own Western stocks and bonds, your depository, exchange and underwriter are also Western...

Then the formula for the Vietnamese and other Kazakhs would look like this: "sirs, owners of the banks of the US Federal Reserve System, we will soon attack Ukraine, and so that YOU, gracious sovereigns, do not freeze our assets, we want to sell them to the Vietnamese and Kazakhs, otherwise YOU you can get free...

And everyone is like: "all right, even more excellent plan, sir, we will help you to dump us, perfect!!"...

And then our guys come out for our money and kill

Our money is still in our accounts, even the coupon and dividend are accrued on them....

[2 Level Advisor]

and that is, in your opinion, if a couple of months before the start they would start selling sharply, would they be frozen or banned from selling? on what is such confidence based? Or tried but failed?

[House 25 Sq. 380]

and that is, in your opinion, if a couple of months before the start they would start selling sharply, would they be frozen or banned from selling? on what is such confidence based? or tried but failed

You sincerely do not understand that there is little desire to sell, you also need to have the desire to buy and the consent of the regulators to this?
When you sell, for example, treasuries, either the Fed itself or other states buy them....
China spent 100 months to sell papers worth 6 billion!
And that's without the threat of an attack on Taiwan...
Who bought these papers? US satellites: Japan, Taiwan, Germany, Britain, Poland, the Baltic states....
Do you think that when you announce your desire to sell almost half a trillion assets in a short time, a “queue” immediately lines up?
And this will not surprise anyone? And some Baltic states will buy from you assets they do not need with borrowed money?
I'm serious: Do you think so?

[2 Level Advisor]

Let me ask you, Alexander, do not share the source from which you take information about what these 300 billion consisted of, in order to make statements with such confidence? about trenzheris, I threw a link that there were 1 percent of them ..

[IvanSviridov]

"" the "elite" will start shaking the Kremlin and demanding that the toughest measures be taken ... " ...... Yeah! By immediate surrender.

[IvanSviridov]

"Maybe it's time to move on to the destruction of administrations in Ukraine? Or, for example, to destroy all electrical substations" Of course it's time! It is high time! We should also write to Putin about this. He decides everything right away.

[Alexy]

What does exploded mean? Nothing happens by itself.

[IvanSviridov]

"... The boy in the warehouse played partisan ...."

[kalita]

Did you wait? What are you thinking about in the Kremlin, what is it for you, a computer game or something. Why is Kyiv still issuing commands to attack Russian cities? How much can you endure? There are only verbal threats from the Kremlin, but Kyiv is doing things, they are destroying our people and destroying our cities. Maybe we will start fighting as it should, or soon missiles will arrive on Moscow Square. Where is the air defense vaunted?

[Murmur 55]

kalita , so it seems like they have already announced the detonation of ammunition, so Ukraine seems to have nothing to do with it, do you believe in that?

[carstorm 11]

We believe. Are there any reasons not to? Well, at least one? The videos are clear and there are a lot of them. One big bang and then smaller ones. The air defense there is such that you can only oversleep a rocket on purpose. Sabotage? May be. But that's a completely different story. This cannot be found out purely physically until the consequences are eliminated.

[Bshkaus]

Why Kyiv is still issuing attack commands

Probably because they couldn’t take him in March ...

[Chronos]

Quote: Bshkaus

Why Kyiv is still issuing attack commands

Probably because they couldn’t take him in March ...

What prevents it from being demolished by rockets?

[mitroha]

And how many all kinds of creatures with tsipso and others like them got into the comments. The main thing is to pile on more, minus and yell.

[IvanSviridov]

"Maybe we'll start fighting properly, or ...." Everything that is in real life, and not in the pictures, is there, everything is involved. How it works is how it works.

[Chronos]

So far, there are no questions about air defense, after all, it looks more like a sabotage. Moreover, there has already been an attack by another DRG on the airfield. But that doesn't make it any easier. So dill will not need any long-range missiles to strike the Crimean bridge. If we have a DRG with a mortar wandering through the forests of the Kursk region for a week, then this is completely out of the question. It is necessary to strengthen the work of the FSB. And the protection of important objects. And not yesterday, the day before yesterday.

[Hindu]

Quote: Quinto

If they give out a version that the ensign smoked or ran a hedgehog with a smoldering cotton wool in his ..ne - it will be completely full of shit

How many submarines were burned in the dock by "welders" and "short circuits", not a single PLO or combat swimmers dreamed of such performance

[House 25 Sq. 380]

How many submarines were burned in the dock by "welders" and "short circuits", not a single PLO or combat swimmers dreamed of such performance

How much ours dreamed of sinking Mikas and put a lot of shells into it, and to send it to the bottom it took only a couple of Japanese watchmen, strong alcohol intoxication and one smoking pipe ....

In this case, apparently, sabotage ....

[Thrifty]

The house kv380 is a strategic object, taking into account the war, security has been strengthened, the question is, how were the saboteurs able to carry out a terrorist attack under such conditions? Most likely, a certain UAV dropped a couple or three of some explosive devices, and explosions occurred from them. ..

[House 25 Sq. 380]

The house kv380 is a strategic object, taking into account the war, security has been strengthened, the question is, how were the saboteurs able to carry out a terrorist attack under such conditions? Most likely, a certain UAV dropped a couple or three of some explosive devices, and explosions occurred from them. ..

It's easy, it's called: recruitment...

[acetophenone]

This is because "special operation". When is the war? Maybe when the war will be easier with this matter? An American rocket has arrived - get a rocket on your land, too, you, the beacon of democracy. A Polish tank has arrived - so get ready, Poles, for a return visit. I see the escalation is underway, and our foreign minister is only staring with his eyes, but spuds blacks.
What's next? Tomahawks and Minutemen? And another Chinese "red line"?

[Elephant]

You can’t talk about Shoigu at all ... As for Lavrov, he is not responsible for the state of the Armed Forces, as well as for conducting a military operation

[Taimen]

The Lord is with you, to beat "dear partners" and colleagues? So after all, they will be able to take away the last "pants". And who needs a poor life, let the people live like that.

[IvanSviridov]

"A Polish tank has arrived - which means, get ready, Poles, for a return visit." To do this, you still need to get to Poland. In the meantime, a great battle has been going on for this month already ..... how is it? ..... but - for Soledar!

[blackcat]

Apparently, after all, sabotage, where did the drg come from? And where did the DRG with a mortar in the Kursk region, a hundred kilometers from the border, someone didn’t finish it, overslept, made a mistake ....

[iz odessy]

Ministry of Defense, statements - this is gorgeous. Probably not aware of such a phenomenon, common as a private video? If there is an explosion of "several ammunition" on it, then it's time for Konashenkov - to give the colonel general

[Chronos]

Quote: iz odessy

Ministry of Defense, statements - this is gorgeous. Probably not aware of such a phenomenon, common as a private video? If there is an explosion of "several ammunition" on it, then it's time for Konashenkov - to give the colonel general

The most interesting thing: they didn’t lie at all. Detonation takes place, the question is about the root cause.

[iz odessy]

oh! you can not lie. This is most likely, subjectively, a continuation of the plan of attack on the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet. It is not worth "multiplying the existing" I modestly predict that there will be vacancies in the FSB

[Chronos]

Quote: iz odessy

oh! you can not lie. This is most likely, subjectively, a continuation of the plan of attack on the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet. It is not worth "multiplying the existing" I modestly predict that there will be vacancies in the FSB

It is not a problem to organize vacancies at all, the problem is to quickly fill them later and this would make it better.

[iz odessy]

Both in the army and in the KGB, the principle of punishment is the same - the commander or the boss is to blame. Deputies, well, maybe with the exception of the chief of staff, these are those who are always there ... to "push". This is a classic - the guilty should be the leader. I'm not talking about petty deeds, there is enough power of the commander. It won't be enough. The quality of service will not suffer - do not go to a fortune teller

[Chronos]

Quote: iz odessy

Both in the army and in the KGB, the principle of punishment is the same - the commander or the boss is to blame. Deputies, well, maybe with the exception of the chief of staff, these are those who are always there ... to "push". This is a classic - the guilty should be the leader. I'm not talking about petty deeds, there is enough power of the commander. It won't be enough. The quality of service will not suffer - do not go to a fortune teller

I personally observed the change of chiefs in the OR divisions. The gouging operas didn't give a damn, the bosses leave, they stay. I saw when they dispersed everyone - and it got even worse. I saw when no one was filming, and it was also bad. It needs to be looked at individually and objectively. Otherwise, every chief in the FSB will have an awareness: they will remove it anyway, they need to have time to make an airbag. The FSB is also military personnel, but the agencies are not the army.

[iz odessy]

remember, this is not the police, the principle of unity of command, on the one hand, gives broad powers, on the other, the same responsibility. Who did not see the "Khokhlomangers" their network of their supply channels, because if this is the option of "the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet", the issue of providing these bonds is the most relevant, also the agent network. When, 8 years ago, something more than 1000 SBU officers took the oath of the Russian Federation, or did not. How many of them were taken by the FSB and why? Where are they ? All this is the subject of "research" and he will be to blame - the one-man leader

[Chronos]

The ORD in the police and the FSB are one thing. The police are also unanimous. I would not say that the fsbshny operas I knew clearly stood out against the background of the police. Although no, at exactly 18.00 they sent everyone and went home to their family.

[Well done]

Well? Who to believe?
Come on, couch "experts", tell us! There are many marshals and admirals here.
It's annoying.
https://iz.ru/1377155/2022-08-09/minoborony-rasskazalo-o-vzryvakh-na-aerodrome-v-krymskoi-novofedorovke
In real life, you didn’t have a price on the front line (Suvorov’s fucking).
Good luck slugs. Just infuriates frank ignorance of reality.
The moderator will not forgive me, but he will understand. Boiled. (and it's only Tuesday)

[Well done]

The marshals scrambled to answer with words. Are they "experts"? They are disabled, they are the ones who did not sniff gunpowder, but give recommendations. On the "front" diagnose quickly. That's where you get healed. I will not minus - this is not a man's business. Well, goodbye to the minus woman)))

[Well done]

The fact is that the admirals are silent for more than an hour. Did their wives downvote me? I won't... Can we help? I have a real name, a real connection with me, I am Tulyak. Third generation military. Disabled person. I'll try to organize. Let's organize something, shall we?

[Shimoza]

Why muddy the water? We will never know the truth. But as always.

[Ivan Ivanov]

We must remember that 1. we are at war 2. with the frostbitten Nazi state 3. with their frostbitten masters. Ate sabotage, sleeping bookmarks along with the 5th column, it's time to pick out

[v1tz]

Yes, the column of smoke was visible as far as 30 km, at the time of 17:00 the smoke was no longer visible. Regarding the DRG, it is very unlikely, because these areas are densely populated and the steppe zone, there are few forest belts.

[Ivan90]

you're posting this for nothing! answer for defamation!

[Inokkenty]

Now I am resting in Evpatoria, in the northern part, if there were missiles, they should have flown over us. Panoramic windows to the entire north of Crimea. Nothing flew at this time (at 15.00 and later)

[Viktor29]

Quote: Inokkenty

if there were rockets, they should have flown over us.

No, they shouldn't, Himars are not cruise missiles.

[Chronos]

Quote: Victor29

Quote: Inokkenty

if there were rockets, they should have flown over us.

No, they shouldn't, Himars are not cruise missiles.

Do they fly differently?

[Foul skeptic]

Do they fly differently?

Yes

[kventinasd]

The official version fell apart in just 20 minutes, after watching a video about two simultaneous explosions in two different places.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

The official version fell apart in just 20 minutes, after watching a video about two simultaneous explosions in two different places.

Why is that?

[IvanSviridov]

And you try to glue it back for yourself. She is the best we have.

[certero]

Another surprise is that this happened only in the sixth month of the war.

[IvanSviridov]

Nothing surprising. At the beginning, the enemy was inferior to us in all objective indicators and fought desperately for his survival. Now it is already easier for him - there are no air raids, missile strikes have become much less frequent, Western equipment is coming in a continuous stream. The enemy began to show a natural interest in daring antics.

[Inokkenty]

Now I thought that these are missiles with a probability of 1%, around Evpatoria, there are so many radars and air defense systems that I have not seen in my entire life. Only today I passed about 3 complexes on a regular bus. The reason is 100% different.

[dedaborja]

It looks like a diversion. Offhand: shelling from ATGMs, mining a mobile logistics facility, a tractor-transporter, for example.
Act according to Mayakovsky:
Keep your nerves in check
Do not groan and gasp ... well, and so on. People work.

[Chronos]

It seems that the dill decided to cover their bare ass after the advertised counter-offensive on Kherson had to be declared an "information-psychological special operation", or rather, the reserves collected for the counter-offensive lost the opportunity to attack due to calibrations. We decided to make an answer in our own style. Thus, dill is increasingly slipping into terrorism. And we must prepare for this: they will get to Moscow that way.

[TatarinSSSR]

You are confusing. Attacks on enemy military targets are not terrorism. A military airfield is a military facility. But when they fire at cities with civilians in our rear, this is terrorism.

[Chronos]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

You are confusing. Attacks on enemy military targets are not terrorism. A military airfield is a military facility. But when they fire at cities with civilians in our rear, this is terrorism.

I don’t confuse anything, if they really hit with missiles - you can still agree. And the DRG, secretly carrying out an explosion with the risk of death of civilians, are terrorists. Therefore, captured DRG members are not combatants.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

You are confusing. Attacks on enemy military targets are not terrorism. A military airfield is a military facility. But when they fire at cities with civilians in our rear, this is terrorism.

Have you seen photos of Mariupol? And the video?
I recently watched regular commercials on the regular truck driver's channel Lawn on the Road.
One video is called the way to Mariupol.
Second. From Mariupol to Moscow.

I highly recommend looking at what the city has really turned into.
This is scorched earth.
Not Azovstal, not something somewhere, but urban development.
Look, it's very impressive.

[Rudkovsky]

The demilitarization of Russia is proceeding strictly according to plan.

[Novik225]

Nobody saw the flights. Yes, and flying from the nearest positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and so that no one notices is almost unbelievable.
Carelessness? probably. Sabotage? is also possible.

[Chronos]

Yes, and the version about the sleeping cell is extremely doubtful, for the sixth month of NWO. They are there now. And this raises questions for the competent authorities.

[Foundling]

Crap! And the answer is no why. Look how many warehouses and decision-making centers Konashenkov has already bombed. It is quite possible that these centers no longer exist at all.

[Thrifty]

Foundling - if you believe him, we had to completely clean Kyiv three times. ...

[Kapany3]

I am touched by smart people sitting on sofas but knowing how and what air defense should do. And in order to raise your fifth point and do something, you don’t have enough strength.

[TatarinSSSR]

Excuse me, what should a 45-year-old man who has a job, a family, a grandson do? What should he do to stop shelling and explosions on Russian territory? Did he start SVO? Or did he blow Maidan in 2013? Was it he who then gave the Poroshenko regime 3 billion dollars? For 8 years he led his citizens by the nose about the fact that Russia would never fight with Ukraine, and then suddenly announced the NWO? What should this person do and why? And who are you, what are you talking about sofas?!

[CYM]

Quote: Inokkenty

The reason is 100% different.

IMHO 95% sabotage. Judging by the photo, the charges were correctly placed in several places: a local bomb storage, a missile preparation position, a fuel and lubricants storage, and equipment parking. Our losses in technology are apparently considerable. They say that so far there are no dead and few wounded, God forbid.

[TatarinSSSR]

It's all kind of dull. If the detonation of ammunition or sabotage, then this is the wildest mess at a military airfield and the head of this facility should be urgently put on bunks for at least 10 years. Together with the Deputy With confiscation. If these are enemy missiles, then all this SVO is somehow .... . It's like it was designed specifically to piss people off.

[Nastia makarova]

the majority of the people no longer pay attention to the reports, they go about their business in order to survive

[Adagka]

dill has already reached the Crimea, and Konashenkov hangs another noodle. Say straight crap, but now finally let's get to Kyiv. Who is this nonsense intended for?

[Ros 56]

There are no more than two reasons, or sabotage, or our usual gouging. Let's wait what they say.

[Chronos]

There it is, in Nikolaev, it burns more abruptly than in Novofedorovka.
Ukropsky TG write that the evacuation of administrative buildings in Kyiv has been announced. The clown is hidden in a bunker. Began?

[ex_paragon]

Eca sebaceous artiodactyls are celebrating. Even if the toilet blows up in Vladivostok, they will churn, like an underwater choven garno made its way through the seas-okiyans :-)

[Terenin]

Quote: ex_paragon

Even if the toilet blows up in Vladivostok, they will churn, like an underwater choven garno made its way through the seas-okiyans :-)

[vvn_vl]

and the minister will not speak against the backdrop of the ruins? this is his favorite thing...

[Altmann]

They closely and in detail follow the campaigns of the Russian army, which I like. I do not want to judge anything, but this should not happen in deep peace. That's shameful.

[jaroff]

A few years ago, this regiment launched an X-29 missile in a hangar. So, I won’t be surprised that the same unfortunate specialists launched a rocket into the warehouse, while in position for preparing missiles

[Commodore Arctic]

Well, they are dispersing such information: AGM-88 HARM disabled the radar / air defense, and then the as yet unannounced ATACMS flew into the broken "window"

[Chronos]

Quote from Commodore Arctic

Well, they are dispersing such information: AGM-88 HARM disabled the radar / air defense, and then the as yet unannounced ATACMS flew into the broken "window"

This is nonsense, the arrival of the air defense radar in the Crimea could not help but notice. There is no such information anywhere. In addition, the AGM-88 HARM will not reach the Crimea from a safe distance.

[Hariton laptev]

I minus. A projectile with a range of 300 km is easy. Who said that in the Crimea the goal is only a bridge. The airfield of the jump, and then there is the base, no matter what the goal.

[Chronos]

Quote: Hariton Laptev

I minus. A projectile with a range of 300 km is easy. Who said that in the Crimea the goal is only a bridge. The airfield of the jump, and then there is the base, no matter what the goal.

Range AGM-88 HARM 150 km. This missile cannot reach the radar station in the Crimea from behind the front line. There were no arrivals to Crimea at all, any hit on the radar station would have gone through social networks. It's a significant explosion. On false targets, air defense was also supposed to work, but it did not turn on at all. And false targets are not easy to launch. In addition to potential ATAMCS, nothing reaches the Crimea.

[Hariton laptev]

Do you have exact data on what and where was included? Look at the sources of hamers, depending on the type of ammunition being slaughtered, they have a firing position from 75 to 500 km. With guidance from the given coordinates to illumination from the satellite

[Hariton laptev]

Rather, not so divera sitting at the site of the attack clearly give the composition of the air defense. The characteristics are known to all. They just launch false targets in the right amount, and then a blow follows. Profukali all the services on the peninsula.

[16112014nk]

Quote from: Denistutswoy

what is our air defense doing ???

Sea, sun, beaches nearby, girls.... War? No, we haven't heard...

[avionic]

Summer, heat, tired in the RAV warehouse...

[opposite28]

On August 15.20, at about XNUMX, on the territory of the Saki airfield near the settlement of Novofedorovka, several aviation ammunition detonated on a bunded storage site. No one was injured in the explosion. Aviation equipment at the airport is not damaged

Surely another army negligence and sloppiness.

[engineer74]

"Ammo behind the embankment"!!! With such a number of drones as in this war, the most reliable solution!!!
But faith doesn’t allow you to dig and cover the trenches and cover them with earth, or “there’s no money”?
By the way, burning grass would also help...

[Cb master]

It's funny why people categorically do not want to believe in the arrival of ATACMS. They announced it. They announced the usual ones after they were delivered, the first blow was the next day after the announcement.
Of course, many questions arise if this is ATACMS. But if this is sabotage or stupidly “the bombs overheated in the sun,” then there are no less questions? Not?
PS: They write that the clowns from the bank have already hidden in caches, is it just that?

[Chronos]

Quote: CB Master

It's funny why people categorically do not want to believe in the arrival of ATACMS. They announced it. They announced the usual ones after they were delivered, the first blow was the next day after the announcement.
Of course, many questions arise if this is ATACMS. But if this is sabotage or stupidly “the bombs overheated in the sun,” then there are no less questions? Not?
PS: They write that the clowns from the bank have already hidden in caches, is it just that?

The launch of the missiles and their arrival were not confirmed and were not recorded on video, and there are more than 20 videos with explosions. The air defense did not work at all, which is incredible when launching a missile from a distance of 280 km.

[Cb master]

Do you think amateur video footage can record the arrival of a ballistic missile? As for air defense issues, I won’t argue here. I think satellite images will be shown very soon; everything should be clearly visible on them. In the meantime, it seems they don’t want panic among vacationers in Crimea.

[Chronos]

Quote: CB Master

Do you think amateur video footage can record the arrival of a ballistic missile? As for air defense issues, I won’t argue here. I think satellite images will be shown very soon; everything should be clearly visible on them. In the meantime, it seems they don’t want panic among vacationers in Crimea.

The video captures point U. Eyewitnesses also did not hear any extraneous sounds. What can satellite images show after such a detonation?

[Cb master]

Give me a link to the video with dot-y, it’s very interesting to watch

[Chronos]

Arrivals around Belgorod, isn't it? In any case, so that there is silence, and then an explosion, it doesn’t look like an arrival.

[Cb master]

Let's see the link and see if you can see the dot there or not

[Chronos]

Quote: CB Master

Let's see the link and see if you can see the dot there or not

Too lazy to look. All the same, while we are looking for the Point there, information will already appear: the fire has been extinguished, everything there will be dismantled and it will be clear whether there are ATAMCS parts or not. For now, we proceed from the fact that they were not officially supplied, and even denied their intentions to supply them. There is absolutely zero evidence to the contrary so far.

[Cb master]

Too lazy to look? It's clear

[House 25 Sq. 380]

Do you think amateur video footage can record the arrival of a ballistic missile?

Even the flight of the dagger was recorded - what...

[Cb master]

I’ll be happy to watch the dagger fly by

[TEX-50]

What was supposed to capture low-resolution video on a smartphone? What should ordinary people hear? A warhead traveling ballistically at Mach 3? Those videos that are available, there is such a distance, you can even see an ordinary cast iron horseradish.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Well, what are the FSB, the military police, commandant companies and security companies, and the military police doing there?

[iz odessy]

I would modestly predict -1. Soon, the investigation will get to the truth, without advertising 2. Heads will roll, this is without advertising 3. Already in the evening today or tomorrow we should expect increased missile launches across the territory of the region. The only question is where, again in the cowsheds where the mobilized soldiers are sitting and for some purposes that Konashenkov likes to read out? 4. Banter. All pro-Ukrainian rubbish like the fat Ternopil pig Stefanchuk, who is always sweaty now, will simply emanate bile. A question arises, traditional for the Russian consciousness: “It’s not time yet, shall we continue to “harness”?”

[neworange88]

There was no missile attack on the military airfield in the Saki region.

.Fake: The attack on Novofedorovka was carried out by HIMARS missiles. This was reported by Russian and Ukrainian telegram channels

Truth: The initial data turned out to be incorrect; there was no missile attack on the military airfield in the Saki region.

A number of local residents reported that they did not hear the sounds of missiles arriving, nor did they see any planes in the sky.

According to the Ministry of Defense, several aircraft munitions detonated. No one was injured as a result of the explosion. Aviation equipment at the airfield was not damaged. Measures are being taken to extinguish the fire and determine the causes of the explosion.

This version is confirmed by the fact that local residents heard several explosions - it was the detonation of ammunition.

The head of Crimea, Sergei Aksenov, said that first of all, measures have been taken to set up a cordon perimeter in a five-kilometer zone. The Ministry of Emergency Situations is monitoring the fires.

https://t.me/s/avdeevkaru

[iz odessy]

There’s a lot of text and I don’t understand - what and who are you refuting? The word "detonation" is everywhere. Spend 10 minutes to understand this “process” from a physics point of view

[Osipov9391]

In Crimea, since the times of Ukraine, there have been and remain local cells of Wahhabis and Islamists from organizations banned in Russia.
Surely, at this time, Ukraine or its Western curators are recruiting all these people to their side.
And there on the peninsula there may be saboteurs, spies who sympathize with them.
And then they won’t write much - people here are adults and understand that one kamikaze drone supplied by the Americans in countless quantities to Ukraine is quite enough for such an attack and dire consequences.
Especially at close range.
Maybe these are even those who attacked the Black Sea Fleet headquarters in Sevastopol.

[odometer]

Is the Black Sea Fleet commander still in command? In theory, he should attack Avdeevka as part of an assault group...

[Scientist_]

Quote from: Denistutswoy

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

If you give the enemy time, he will definitely come up with some nasty thing (some will work, some won’t). So the question is not why the air defense missed it, but why they gave the enemy time at all. It is obvious that such troubles will continue in the future.

[Third district]

Quote from Scientist

Why did they even give time to the enemy? It is obvious that such troubles will continue in the future.

It was explained to us more than once that our great strategists are “playing the long game.” In other words, they play nice.

[Scientist_]

But our Minister of Defense is hung with glitter like a Christmas tree. Where is it for dear Leonid Ilyich?

[UAZ 452]

One warrant officer Gritsenko (or even Ivanov), who in 2014 transferred from the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and to whom the SBU promised a lot of money for a sudden relapse of Ukrainian patriotism, will cost much less, and will work much more reliably than Khimarsov and Tochka U. And a semi-toy copter with a grenade, launched from a nearby ravine, poses a huge danger to a warehouse with open (and if the operator is experienced, then also closed) storage of ammunition and equipment.

[Alexey Lantukh]

There could be any reason. If a cruise missile (nizenko-nizenko) arrived from the sea, then the radar might not have been noticed. According to this scenario, Moscow was drowned. I wonder what MO will say.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

The launch would then be recorded....

[composite]

the explosion was very powerful. (...) The frames in our dining room were knocked out.

I understand this is not a switchblade...

[Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers]

Gentlemen and comrades, don’t panic! Wait for an official statement from the Supreme Commander. The month of August is traditionally difficult for Russia.

[IvanSviridov]

Let me think about what the next official statement from the Supreme Commander-in-Chief will be.....Ah! “You, brothers and sisters, are great. Everything is going according to plan. Fortunately for you, I didn’t make a mistake in anything. Which, however, didn’t happen before. And everything else is trifles. We haven’t really started the special operation yet "And Victory will be for Russia. Hurray!"

[Comrade Kim]

Quote from: Denistutswoy

One simple question: what is our air defense doing ???

Why immediately air defense? Doesn't it take into account the version with DRG?
Look, the Kazakhs are pinching our Sberbank, shaking the hegemon so hard that they tore his pants:

"Kazakh banks Forte Bank and Jusan Bank began to refuse to make payments in tenge and foreign currency to the local subsidiary of the Russian Sberbank, which has been under US blocking sanctions since the beginning of March. This is a private decision of the banks. @banksta"
https://t.me/banksta/27889

[House 25 Sq. 380]

What’s strange here: the owner of Forte Bank is up to his neck in the west - he doesn’t want to lose the bank....

[Chronos]

Quote: House 25 Sq. 380

What’s strange here: the owner of Forte Bank is up to his neck in the west - he doesn’t want to lose the bank....

US blocking sanctions mean that a participant in any transaction in any currency with a sanctioned entity is subject to the same sanctions.

[Arkady007]

Panic in Crimea is the only positive moment for Kyiv from these explosions.

[Inokkenty]

There is no panic at all in Crimea, only at the market in Yevpatoria at the time of the explosion and smoke, one non-Russian merchant from the southern republic was hysterical and curtailed trade. Everyone else (sellers and buyers) looked at him calmly with sympathy and the usual measured life continued...

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Inokkenty

There is no panic at all in Crimea, only at the market in Yevpatoria at the time of the explosion and smoke, one non-Russian merchant from the southern republic was hysterical and curtailed trade. Everyone else (sellers and buyers) looked at him calmly with sympathy and the usual measured life continued...

That is, you didn’t see how people fled from the beaches at all....
It’s very interesting why I saw it in Samara, but you, being in Evpatoria, didn’t see it....

[Inokkenty]

Well, something else may not seem right to you in Samara... You need to eat more.

[Chronos]

Quote: SovAr238A

Quote: Inokkenty

There is no panic at all in Crimea, only at the market in Yevpatoria at the time of the explosion and smoke, one non-Russian merchant from the southern republic was hysterical and curtailed trade. Everyone else (sellers and buyers) looked at him calmly with sympathy and the usual measured life continued...

That is, you didn’t see how people fled from the beaches at all....
It’s very interesting why I saw it in Samara, but you, being in Evpatoria, didn’t see it....

Those who fled are already starting to return. The Russian tourist is not so easy to understand

[Sedoy]

several aircraft munitions detonated

and what detonated them, it’s interesting to know...

[hangar200]

Detonation is a consequence. Even more popular: if we consider detonation as an explosion, an explosion, then the firing of ammunition is initiated by fuses of various types - contact fuses, radio fuses, etc. That is, detonation as an event has a secondary origin. A primitive parallel: the detonation of a nuclear charge can be considered as a kind of detonation when a critical mass is created by the influence of conventional ammunition. And even more popular: if one shell successfully hits an ammunition depot, all of them can detonate, that is, explode. This will be a consequence or a consequence, whatever you like)..What can cause ammunition to detonate on an embanked site? Is it hot from the sun? And, by the way, during storage the products themselves and the fuses for them should be located separately)...
No one will ever satisfy the media with the true reasons for the event without delay. Or these reasons will have alien properties. The explanation is trivial: now counterintelligence and other special services will dig the earth in search of the reasons for this “consequence”; this will take time. And time is a relative concept, so one should not rush to subjective conclusions. Although something unpleasant happened, of course... and annoying... In your assumptions, you can only rely on assumptions - did you screw up yourself or did you help? If you do it yourself, then our public shouldn’t suck into this event. Only enemies, obvious and hidden, can gloat. The army authorities will sort it out. But if they helped, we have the right to be indignant: the “response” should be timely, this will help reduce the intensity of passions, including those of the sofa)

[hangar200]

Another reason was suggested - violation of the fire safety regulations)....This can be understood when, roughly speaking, on a collective farm, a drunk mechanic dipped a half-smoked cigarette into a barrel of oily rags, which should not have been in the repair area.. This is a violation of the fire safety regulations coupled with production disgrace...
Army regulations are written in blood. I think all the experts and “experts” here have heard this at some point in their lives...
Scouts in an ambush are not allowed to smoke!! Like death! A mess with “violation of fire safety regulations” is possible on the “collective farm”, but is unacceptable on the arsenal site, and even during the fire safety! Conclusions on what happened should not be drawn today. They should have been drawn yesterday!

[Inokkenty]

You write this as if you don’t live in Russia... Also write that you have never crossed the road at a red light in your life, and this rule is written and rewritten in blood almost every minute...

[hangar200]

I live in Russia)... Traffic regulations prohibit pedestrians from crossing the road at a red light. If this prohibition were observed by everyone and always, there would be less bloodshed. But. Your comparison is incorrect. From traffic rules to the requirements of military regulations, “a huge distance.”

[Hariton laptev]

Well what are you waiting for??? They puffed up loudly and clenched their fists. Arrived, sign for it. Aaand let's worry again

[AVESSALOM]

Regardless of whether it is a strike or sabotage, this is just another obscurity.