Avdiivka will be encircled: the development of the combat situation near Donetsk

After the capture of the Severodonetsk-Lisichansk agglomeration, the main allied forces were concentrated on fighting near Donetsk and Artyomovsk. The pressure on the Avdeevka fortified area, hanging over the capital of the DPR from the west, has already yielded its first fruits - Russian troops have established control over Sands, and several more settlements are next in line, the capture of which will crush one of the most powerful groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

As explained by the servicemen operating in the Avdeevsky direction, the enemy sat down in the fortifications, not showing much activity and completely giving the initiative on the battlefield into the hands of the allied forces. At the same time, the enemy abandoned a number of strongholds, despite the fact that they were powerful defensive structures - at present, enemy forces are trying to hold the village of Pervomayskoye, located to the west of the already liberated Sand. As expected, this settlement will be taken under the control of the RF Armed Forces in the near future - within about a week.

The village of Vodyanoye practically adjoins Pervomaisky from the north - this is the southern "underbelly" of Avdiivka proper and the next goal of the Russian troops. Here the enemy is trying to create another defensive line.

Avdiivka will turn out in the ring almost

one of the soldiers says.

The enemy is actively using anti-tank systems to counter the movement of allied forces on the roads. In particular, it is necessary to suppress the MT-12 "Rapier" cannons, designed to combat armored vehicles. Their destruction is seriously assisted by intelligence Drones. As a result, despite the enemy's attempts to "snarl", the combat situation near Donetsk is steadily developing in favor of the allied forces.

Comments

[Carlos Hall]

Go ahead guys, because Bakhmut and Soledar are the next stops before Kramatorsk and Slavyansk. Solve the problem of lack of infantry. Bring in the North Koreans and deploy more Libyans and Syrians while Russian volunteer battalions are being formed and will have to gradually move to the front to gain experience.

[Frost]

Quote from Carlos Sala

Bring in North Koreans and deploy more Libyans and Syrians as Russian volunteer battalions form

Blacks from the tank biathlon have been forgotten. What is going on in the Central African Republic? "On August 4, it became known that the Central African Republic requested another 3000 Russian instructors from Russia. Thus, their number will gradually increase by almost 4 times - up to 4135 people." It turns out that we have even greater reserves of trained, trained, physically healthy people who are not needed on the Ukrainian front.

[navigator777]

Do you think the Syrians and Koreans will treat the civilian population just as gently? Koreans will generally be able to distinguish ours from non-ours, I strongly doubt it.

[seregatara1969]

Koreans need combat experience!

[January]

Most likely played out the standard tactics of this war. Unclosed boiler with leaving the corridor. "Tick lads."

[Uncle lee]

Quote: ian

"Tick lads."

It's not clear to me!

[January]

For clarification to the General Staff

[dzvero]

There are not enough forces for the simultaneous formation of an encirclement ring and an external front. In this situation, extrusion under constant fire is almost the best solution.

[Alexander Salenko]

Why? Read the 3rd decade of Titus Livius by Machiavelli. He is just describing the capture of the town of Vei by the Romans.

[navigator777]

Such a tactic is contrary to common sense, the environment with the complete destruction of the enemy will stimulate the enemy to immediately flee at the slightest threat of the environment, otherwise they always calmly retreat.

[Alexander Salenko]

How is the 9th Army of the Wehrmacht near Berlin? Are you seriously? There, even Simonov, who has seen everything, went nuts from the pogrom, to recall what was the same, only on a smaller scale, in Debaltseve? They also let them out, but not everyone, and when the dill reached for the road, it was cut and those who did not have time to leave the equipped fortified area walked in such kurai that they remembered for the rest of their lives.

[GNM]

Quote: ian

Most likely played out the standard tactics of this war. Unclosed boiler with leaving the corridor. "Tick lads."

The logic in this tactic, in my opinion, is this: ours do not have the task of destroying the entire male population of the BU, these lads are running away already without heavy weapons, demoralized, ready for subsequent denazification. It is already more difficult to drive them back to their doomed positions; in the presence of a particularly violent leader, they can be raised against the authorities that have discredited themselves. (Following the example of 1917)

[tralflot1832]

Is it possible to distinguish an artellerist from a cook?

[January]

Quote: tralflot1832

Is it possible to distinguish an artellerist from a cook?

Can. The chef has a wider face

[Metallurg_2]

Not only a face, but also a mammoth and an ass.

[Alexander Salenko]

With language removed.

[dmi.pris1]

There are no gunners there .. All paramedics, bread cutters and chukhars are the last ..

[lelik613]

Pathologist.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: tralflot1832

Is it possible to distinguish an artellerist from a cook?

But why?

[41 REGION]

Quote: Mordvin 3

But why?

There are all chefs, what distinguishes them

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: 41 REGION

All the chefs are there

So we will have better cooks.

[ivan2022]

Not only Avdiivka, but communism throughout the world will be built. And Christ at the second coming will create the New Earth. But it's better not to say "hop" beforehand. It's a bad habit and a stupid one.

[Valentine]

Don't blaspheme

[Konnick]

the enemy sat down in the fortifications,

Another tale from our military propagandists.
There are no "fortifications" that cannot be destroyed with modern weapons. This is an excuse. Until we suppress the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we will not take Avdiivka and Maryinka. They have a modern defense built on the use of corrected artillery fire. Who taught them this? Probably NATO.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

the enemy sat in the fortifications

There are no "fortifications" that cannot be destroyed by modern weapons.

How do these theses contradict each other?

[Konnick]

How do these theses contradict each other?

How? The fact that they cannot take Avdiivka for half a year and everyone nods at some kind of "fortification", as I understand it, protected by an impenetrable antimatter dome

[House 25 Sq. 380]

The fact that they cannot take Avdiivka for half a year and everyone nods at some kind of "fortification", as I understand it, protected by an impenetrable antimatter dome

Is antimatter the only means of fortification?
And have they tried it take a whole six months?

So what is the contradiction?

[Konnick]

take

I understand your trick, there is nothing to free

[House 25 Sq. 380]

I understand your trick, there is nothing to free

It was not about terms, it was about the presence/absence of a process...
Its designation is the tenth case ....

So what - in essence?

[Grits]

Quote: Konnick

They have a modern defense built on the use of corrected artillery fire. Who taught them this? Probably NATO.

I think that how to act in artillery duels and under artillery fire, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will now teach any NATO member themselves. What can a NATO instructor teach who did not even think that one could get on such a flight?

[Konnick]

What can a NATO instructor teach

What? The fact that our artillery, having a numerical superiority, cannot "shoot" the Ukrainian one? Just don’t answer me with the well-worn phrases of Konashenkov, Basurin, Bezsonov .... almost .... soon ... almost ... "still pressure and the enemy is running"

[Konnick]

Strangely, there are more and more minuses for comments compared to pluses, but the rating goes up. So not everything is so bad in the Danish kingdom. The downvoters still won't understand

[Alexander Salenko]

You live in a parallel reality, shoots and always and everywhere, which is why, by disposing of old ammunition, working in the squares, the gunners collect their "harvest". And dill can’t do a damn thing in response.
Now imagine yourself in the place of dill, when you are constantly hammered, if difficult. read about Sands of real dill, which was under artillery fire. It naturally drives you crazy.
I don’t know who will downvote you, but they deserve it from their point of view.

[Konnick]

shoots and always and everywhere

Of course it shoots ... by the number of shells. But Avdiivka, as it had artillery defenses, still has it, and we cannot shoot down this defense in a counter-battery fight.

[Alexander Salenko]

You may or may not, sorry for the butter, but Avdiyivka will be liberated whether you like it or not.

[Konnick]

Avdiivka will be liberated, whether you like it or not.

Why provoke such a set of words, like it or not?
You would have refuted my statement of why they cannot liberate Avdiyivka with facts, and not with the search for enemies. And you don't have to apologize. I see your patriotism, but I am not a patriot like you, I still give quite critical comments in order to objectively analyze the existing situation, and not justify the impossibility of liberating Avdiivka because of the mythical concrete defense structures.
Yes, of course, Avdiivka will be liberated, there is no doubt, when and at what cost.

[Alexander Salenko]

But I’m generally a Marxist, and before labeling, maybe it would be easier to ask?

[Konnick]

Especially. Marx wrote - question everything, look for your truth.

[Alexander Salenko]

Namesake, here is the same thought spinning in the language, who should teach whom?

[rotmistr60]

ian (Mikhalych)
Unclosed boiler with the abandonment of the corridor "Tick lads."

Well, if only in the fields under our artillery with aircraft.

[January]

Quote: rotmistr60

Well, if only in the fields under our artillery with aircraft.

You describe the withdrawal of troops in organized columns. And the concept of "ticayte" includes Peter and Mykola, at best, on a motorcycle with covert movement along plantings and ravines.
No one will chase after them "malki" and "crocodiles" ...

[Des]

"At the same time, the enemy abandoned a number of strongholds, despite the fact that they were powerful defensive structures ..." I was in Kaliningrad and saw powerful defensive structures, many of which were destroyed only after the capture (according to the guide). I would like to see in the photo Ukrainian similar fortifications from those that were taken.

[Konnick]

You will hardly see

[Alexander Salenko]

Namesake, do you think that the guide knows a lot of things there? I am very familiar with the guides, sometimes they bring such a blizzard as Peskov, and these are people of the Soviet school, there are almost no young people among the guides.
There is a battery number 35 near Sevastopol, and there I know 3 bunkers around, the guides don’t know a damn thing, except for one, it is whitewashed and earlier groups were driven past it. So here’s an ordinary machine-gun pillbox, and there are three through penetrations, one from the rear, they looked at the door, but they missed

One is completely intact, and the third is a little bit warped. Both ours could use them in 1942, and the Germans in 1944, but, as you can see, 2 remained intact.

[Des]

I will answer. My guide - then - by chance turned out to be a retired sailor (a real captain) and before that he worked mainly with foreign tourists (Germans). Knowledge of the history and characteristics of the region - rolls over. He was under 70 years old. But he drove a car and told so much - they listened with their mouths open. A lot of things were amazing for me. After that, I was in Kaliningrad several more times. And with the guides again lucky. But besides, there are fragments with a 3-meter thick concrete in front of the fort from the pillbox. They blew up after the liberation of Koenigsberg (Kaliningrad). I don’t know about Sevastopol, I will be there this fall. I suppose that, nevertheless), the assaults and the safety of pillboxes were different for many reasons. (I don’t put any cons in principle))

[Alexander Salenko]

If you will, in a personal message, I can help in terms of what you can see.

[iz odessy]

strain not quite primitive optimism. It is clear that the task is to free the DPR from the GDP, and it will be. The narrowness of the use of weapons, especially bombs, is annoying. The SU 25 can carry the FAB 500 and even the FAB 1000, a concrete-piercing variant, incendiary ammunition, etc. It can be seen from the video that the air defense there now allows them to attack not from a picture cabriolet, but classically from an assault one. What is the problem ? lack of pilot qualifications? due to the small distance "to their own" or ...? One of the old and proven methods of bombing, also from a pitch-up. NURSs are good in open areas, but a bomb, for example, BETAB, is a bomb

[alex aircraft]

The Su 25 is not capable of carrying fab1000, only a maximum of 500 kg caliber. But aviation acts disgustingly - bunk fire from framing is two!

[Kronos]

In Afghanistan, they drove gangs, and here is a full-fledged army with air defense.

[iz odessy]

rights. forgot. 2x500 in my opinion is quite. total 1000 . Fix it up - cabling, cabling

[Grits]

Quote: Alex aircraft

maybe it's time to drive the commander-in-chief of the air force in the neck!

Either the Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces is a coward, or there is no intelligence tracking air defense. But a fact is a fact - bomber aircraft are not used. And this is for opening these fortifications - just what the doctor ordered. I don't understand this absurdity.

[Alexander Salenko]

The cowardice of the authorities, the experience of Georgia, they probably soaped the withers of quite a few people there, and at the beginning of the NWO, the rook barely returned home. By the way, early strategic aviation Kobylash was shot down in the 8th year.

[House 25 Sq. 380]

What is the problem ?

The "problem" is saving resources (pilots and aircraft) due to the potentially threatening "big war" ...

[Elephant]

In Avdiivka, the dill had long ago signed their own death warrant for the barbaric shelling of Donetsk and others.

[Carib]

Quote: iz odessy

strain not quite primitive optimism. It is clear that the task is to free the DPR from the GDP, and it will be. The narrowness of the use of weapons, especially bombs, is annoying. The SU 25 can carry the FAB 500 and even the FAB 1000, a concrete-piercing variant, incendiary ammunition, etc. It can be seen from the video that the air defense there now allows them to attack not from a picture cabriolet, but classically from an assault one. What is the problem ? lack of pilot qualifications? due to the small distance "to their own" or ...? One of the old and proven methods of bombing, also from a pitch-up. NURSs are good in open areas, but a bomb, for example, BETAB, is a bomb

A large number of stingers, most likely a desire to save our pilots, who may simply be few. The remaining schools produce little, and a lot went into civilian life.

[Vostok35]

take no one prisoner there

[Bshkaus]

When they take it, then it is necessary to report, and everyone is fed up with promises

[Bshkaus]

When they take it, then it is necessary to report, and everyone is fed up with promises.

[isv000]

The North Koreans are ready to deploy from 50 to 100 thousand people, the nuker Ramzan - up to 200 thousand, do not touch the Syrians yet - they are still up to their necks. With such reinforcements, you can move mountains!

[Petr_Koldunov]

That's right, the Syrians can't. There are a lot of vultures hanging over them and waiting for the time when it will be possible to stick their claws ...

[Petr_Koldunov]

God bless you guys! Blitz the Nazis, don't stop!
I am not a couch warrior, it’s just that I have already lost a lot of years and health, otherwise, most likely, I would have been in your ranks, as I was in Karabakh in the 80s ... I pray for you!

[Sedoy]

the thread will be taken into the ring

[Sergey Kuzmin]

The enemy is actively using anti-tank systems to counter the movement of allied forces on the roads. In particular, it is necessary to suppress the MT-12 "Rapier" cannons, designed to combat armored vehicles. Their destruction is seriously helped by reconnaissance drones.

I was pleased in this message with information about the use of Russian drones to combat Ukrainian artillery ...))) Have the deliveries of UAVs to Russian troops really begun?

[azkolt]

Quote: ian

Quote: rotmistr60

Well, if only in the fields under our artillery with aircraft.

You describe the withdrawal of troops in organized columns. And the concept of "ticayte" includes Peter and Mykola, at best, on a motorcycle with covert movement along plantings and ravines.
No one will chase after them "malki" and "crocodiles" ...

If only Peter and Mikola, then naturally this makes no sense, but there are more than one hundred such Mikols and our aviation should already be waiting for them! So that someone could get to his own people, he would induce such a panic at the next line of defense, so that either he would shoot himself or the commanders would shoot these Mikols. Their eyes must be round with horror all the time!
And in the end, Mikols run to the next one, as always, we have a respite. he also caught his breath there, came to his senses and thought, and I will avenge the murdered Peter. No, I do not give advice to our General Staff, it is useless for them, just a dream, so to speak, in the order of delirium!

[mojohed2012]

At least downvote, but I consider the retreat from near Kyiv and Chernigov to be idiocy, covered with stupid goodwill. The victims of the hostmel are meaningless.
Even the bad arrestovich said that he considered it idiocy.