The impotence of the warning system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: the Ukrainian command on the use of hypersonic missiles "Dagger" by the RF Armed Forces

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The Ukrainian command complains about the "gifts" received on August 7 from the Russian troops against the backdrop of the celebration of the independent air force day.

"Congratulated" us on our professional holiday

- explained in the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.



According to the department's Internet account, on August 7, Russian troops launched several attacks on military facilities located in the Vinnitsa region, there are losses among the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At the same time, the missile attack warning system did not work. As explained, its failure was caused by the use of a special weapons - Kh-47M Kinzhal hypersonic missiles, which, as indicated, develop a flight speed of 12 thousand km / h. MiG-31 interceptors and Tu-22M3 and Tu-160 bombers are called missile carriers.

The performance characteristics of this missile do not allow the air defense systems available in the Armed Forces of Ukraine to effectively detect and suppress the threat, the system is powerless

- the Ukrainian command notes, pointing out that since the beginning of the special operation by the Russian troops in Ukraine, only a few cases of using "Daggers" have been recorded - "the enemy seeks to use them to defeat extremely important targets."

Yesterday, a massive air raid was carried out on military facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - the alarm sounded in most areas controlled by the Kyiv regime. At the same time, the warning system of the independent (as well as the air defense of the Western “allies” constantly helping it) only recorded the strikes that had already taken place, being unable to timely identify threats emanating from the RF Armed Forces.

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    1. +12
      8 August 2022 16: 10
      We call it the "surprise")
      1. +8
        8 August 2022 16: 33
        "Treated" with something "pointed" lol At least 4:0 in our favor good
      2. +29
        8 August 2022 16: 58
        The dagger is good for the one who has it. And it’s bad for someone who doesn’t have it at the right time. Classic.
      3. -7
        8 August 2022 17: 08
        It’s not clear how the warning system works in B \ U in general? In theory, these are radar stations that detect the take-off of aircraft and missile launches, and now the question is why these radar stations are not destroyed? Full of tools! I’ll say right away write nonsense about NATO AWACS! NATO AWACS aircraft do not have such an opportunity purely technically because it is far away ..
        1. +6
          8 August 2022 17: 31
          the warning system is NATO avaks in the EU
          1. +1
            9 August 2022 13: 36
            Quote from Johnson Smithson
            the warning system is NATO avaks in the EU

            Here for such alternatively gifted and wrote.I’ll say nonsense about NATO AWACS right away, write! NATO AWACS aircraft do not have such an opportunity purely technically because it is far away ..
            TTX AWACS Bomber-type aircraft are detected from a distance of 520 km, low-flying small targets can be detected at a distance of up to 400 km, targets above the horizon - up to 650 km from the aircraft.

            Aircraft modifications E-3B have an advanced radar AN / APY-2 with a computer 4PiCC-2, the new digital coded communication system. The aircraft can operate on surface and sedentary air targets. Under the RSIP modernization program, radar refinement was envisaged in order to efficiently detect low-altitude cruise missiles. It is stated that after modernization of the receiving part of the locator, the latter will be able to detect objects with EPR (effective signal scattering area) of 1 m² at a range of up to 425 km.
            From the EU to the Donbass about 1000 km or more! The question is HOW can these aircraft, having half the detection characteristics, detect our aircraft and transmit data very quickly, including target designation?
            And here is a picture where AWACS fly
        2. +1
          8 August 2022 17: 35
          Quote: max702
          It’s not clear how the warning system works in B \ U in general?

          On other resources they write that it worked already upon the arrival of the Dagger on the target.
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          1. +1
            8 August 2022 20: 53
            War in Iraq against the Bedouins? The Sumerians are far from being Bedouins.
            1. +4
              8 August 2022 21: 17
              What are the Bedouins in Iraq?
              1. +1
                9 August 2022 15: 19
                Bedouins are a collective image for rebels in the Middle East. if anyone does not understand. I think, by the way, that the Bedouins are much more combat-ready than urban Arabs, to be realistic.
          2. +6
            9 August 2022 04: 17
            You just forgot to point out that in fact no one has such funds. These are, of course, cool operational strikes in tactical depth. But it works against popuases with Kalash. The war in Iraq showed that when the territory is more than 80 percent desert, it is easily controlled when the entire population lives near the waterway. When there is no need to control the front line thousands of kilometers long. Moreover, with a bunch of forests, villages, towns, cities and other buildings every 5 km. In which a lot of civilians. The United States showed very well how to control the same Afghan and hammer on civilians without additional intelligence. How, having such developed intelligence forces, did it turn out to regularly destroy ordinary people in batches? At the same time, being in their bases for years and not having control over them at all.
      4. +12
        8 August 2022 17: 33
        Quote: Sailor
        We call it the "surprise")

        And Ukrainians call it cartoons! Let them watch and let them think that they are in a fairy tale!
      5. +2
        8 August 2022 20: 53
        Why has this "surprise" never visited the Bank and Rada in Kyiv? "Clowns" have already ceased to be afraid
    2. +11
      8 August 2022 16: 11
      No, it’s okay, they congratulated me like that ..., on Air Force Day, tell me pzhl., When is their Navy Day? These at least still fly, rarely true ..., while others have already sailed off the campaign ..., or rather, departed, so by sea ...
    3. +8
      8 August 2022 16: 12
      What good news, everything is perfect in it! And let overseas non-partners puzzledly scratch their turnips. For we remember about intelligence support, real-time monitoring, etc., etc.
    4. +4
      8 August 2022 16: 14
      So far, they are talking about 4 objects in the Vinnitsa region. There are two videos of the type of span. Maybe someone will figure out what is there. Video, on the news channel of the Vinnitsa region.
      1. +4
        8 August 2022 16: 27
        Disassemble the arrival at a speed of 12.000 km / h? I don't have a cart, I can't look, but the storyboard will show "something dark and long" - no more. IMHO, of course. Specially re-read the Summary of the Moscow Region (ours would have singled out the Daggers) - but quietly. So it's doubtful.
        1. +4
          8 August 2022 16: 36
          Yesterday they had a holiday, something like a day of letaks, maybe they just ate moonshine, on chicken droppings.
          1. +2
            8 August 2022 16: 47
            Not - they drank "Moskovskaya" and "Putinka".
            Well, what is the meaning of "dagger"? There is no spending logic. But air defense flaws can always be justified. Yesterday, I read like the whole of Ukraine was alarming - supposedly arrivals everywhere. The last time they allegedly found Amer's chips at the place of arrival of the Dagger. Then it quickly became clear that this was another nonsense and the Dagger, in principle, was not even there.
            1. +2
              8 August 2022 16: 52
              Also read this nonsense.
    5. +7
      8 August 2022 16: 14
      Come on. This is just one of the "cartoons" laughing But there are also "cartoons" more serious
    6. +9
      8 August 2022 16: 26
      "Congratulated" us on our professional holiday

      Heartily! winked
    7. ZoV
      +5
      8 August 2022 16: 39
      Yesterday, a massive air raid was carried out on military facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - the alarm sounded in most areas controlled by the Kyiv regime.

      Morally and psychologically, this puts a lot of pressure .. And the use of such missiles for which air defense-missile defense is not scary, says that retribution is inevitable, wherever Zeleny and K. are hiding on the territory of Ukraine .. Our tactics have been chosen correctly.
    8. +1
      8 August 2022 16: 55
      Quote from ZOV
      Yesterday, a massive air raid was carried out on military facilities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - the alarm sounded in most areas controlled by the Kyiv regime.

      Morally and psychologically, this puts a lot of pressure .. And the use of such missiles for which air defense-missile defense is not scary, says that retribution is inevitable, wherever Zeleny and K. are hiding on the territory of Ukraine .. Our tactics have been chosen correctly.

      Well, our Guarantor said that we would wet everywhere, and even in the toilet! wassat And so it goes.... soldier
      1. +1
        8 August 2022 17: 38
        Are there no toilets in the General Staff of Ukraine?
        1. -2
          8 August 2022 19: 50
          Quote: kenig1
          Are there no toilets in the General Staff of Ukraine?

          It turns out no! It turns out that they go in the pants on big and small ... Maybe that's why we don't beat? Are we kidding? And it's time to stop mocking, and cover them with, their wet pants ...
    9. +6
      8 August 2022 16: 56
      Raid notifications are activated 2 times a day. Moreover, it sounds "in the region" The people no longer react violently. But on Ukrainian TV, a communal worker from Kharkov spoke, so he said that thermal power plants were badly destroyed, but they were being repaired, and people were hiding in the subway during raids. Of course, patriotically: "We will winter for the evil of the enemy ..." only now he spoke in Russian and the hosts did not stop him! ))) But since they are talking on THIS TV, it means that the guys really did a good job! )))
    10. +2
      8 August 2022 16: 56
      It's you who complain about Soyuzmultfilm ... after all, these are cartoons!
    11. +1
      8 August 2022 17: 13
      We must also on our Aviation Day on August 21, do not forget to congratulate these Bandera okhlamons. lol
    12. 0
      8 August 2022 17: 14
      The video shows a test flight in Akhtubinsk with a rocket launch. So what?
    13. +3
      8 August 2022 17: 29
      And what is wrong? It's not for you to kill the civilian population of Donbass! Then, probably, did not complain?
    14. 0
      8 August 2022 17: 30
      In fact, it’s a pity to spend Daggers on such air defense, and something simpler would be enough from them.
    15. +3
      8 August 2022 18: 36
      The answer for the day of the Navy in the Crimea turned out to be more serious .. everything, as they say, is for you!
    16. GNM
      +2
      8 August 2022 19: 04
      We realize how the air fleet is getting stronger...
      (our videoconferencing mean)

      1. 0
        9 August 2022 13: 26
        There is no need to drag this power to the one that built all this. Built in the days of Stalin and the management of the Bolshevik Party. Then people fought for good, now they fight for theft. Nothing to be done The first phase of feudalism, Soviet weapons.
    17. +3
      8 August 2022 19: 11
      Serious action!
      More often ...
    18. +1
      8 August 2022 20: 13
      "..."Congratulated" us on our professional holiday
      - explained in the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      According to the department's Internet account, on August 7, Russian troops launched several attacks on military facilities located in the Vinnitsa region, there are losses among the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At the same time, the missile attack warning system did not work. As explained, its failure was caused by the use of a special weapon by the RF Armed Forces - Kh-47M "Dagger" hypersonic missiles ........."

      Opanki, VO agreed with the other side
    19. -1
      8 August 2022 20: 30
      Quote from Johnson Smithson
      the warning system is NATO avaks in the EU

      Aren't you tired of blaming everything on NATO?
    20. -2
      8 August 2022 20: 52
      Powerlessness against hypersonic missiles is offset by their small number in service. Like it or not, the system is young, at best, they managed to make a hundred
    21. -1
      8 August 2022 22: 54
      In general, if we consider the Dagger as an air version of Iskander, you can attach a subsonic one to him and the Kyrgyz Republic (a couple)
    22. -4
      8 August 2022 22: 59
      Not a single carcass can carry daggers.
      Dimensions do not allow.
    23. -7
      8 August 2022 23: 20
      "Congratulated" us on our professional holiday
      - explained in the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      Can you link to the original?
    24. 0
      9 August 2022 21: 21
      Quote: carstorm 11
      You just forgot to point out that in fact no one has such funds. These are, of course, cool operational strikes in tactical depth. But it works against popuases with Kalash. The war in Iraq showed that when the territory is more than 80 percent desert, it is easily controlled when the entire population lives near the waterway. When there is no need to control the front line thousands of kilometers long. Moreover, with a bunch of forests, villages, towns, cities and other buildings every 5 km. In which a lot of civilians. The United States showed very well how to control the same Afghan and hammer on civilians without additional intelligence. How, having such developed intelligence forces, did it turn out to regularly destroy ordinary people in batches? At the same time, being in their bases for years and not having control over them at all.

      And I'll tell you what - it's good that they did not make a continuous (extended), echeloned defense in depth. Like the Nazis, during the Second World War. Otherwise, they would have resisted, and would have resisted so much that they don’t want to deploy this disgrace wider. Our "strategists" have apparently relearned the American training manuals, where an opponent of the level of the Indians is against them. According to Zvezda, a couple of days ago there were good issues, confirmed by documentary materials, which told about the operations carried out by the troops of our army to liberate Ukraine and Moldova. Watching all this and listening is nothing to say! The military art of our military leaders is ... something! Why am I...? God grant that one of the current generals would repeat the feat of those commanders of the armies and fronts who led the liberation of Ukraine. But they had many times more forces and means, because there was such a person who at the end of the war was awarded the highest military rank of the country - Generalissimo, and he rightfully deserved it!
    25. KCA
      0
      10 August 2022 11: 24
      When did the TU-22M3 and TU-160 become carriers of the Kh-47M? If they do, then 22M3M, 160M and 160M2, but they are not yet in the army

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