Finally, volunteers are recognized by the state

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In one of the recent articles, I briefly mentioned the announcements that appeared in Omsk. Announcements that a "personal battalion" is being formed in the region - the medical company "Om", from volunteers to be sent to the Donbass. Naturally, it was difficult to pass by such information.

After talking with readers from other regions, a rather interesting picture emerged. Such divisions are formed in many Russian regions and even in public organizations. True, the specialization is quite different.



Some units are initially formed as combat units. Others are created for the rear support of the army, like the aforementioned Om company. Another feature of these formations turned out to be very interesting - payment.

In Omsk, they promise a salary of 130 thousand rubles, in other regions it is much higher - up to 300 thousand rubles. Moreover, Omsk volunteers immediately go to three "nominal" units - the Irtysh repair company, the Avangard material support company and the Om medical company. But the salary is the same everywhere.

Why was such an initiative suddenly born?


Indeed, for many years, volunteers from Russia made their way to the territory of the LDNR by hook or by crook. For many years there have been discussions in society about whether mercenaries are volunteers or not. Whether they are prosecuted or not. The Russian leadership was smart enough to "not notice" these discussions, but in Belarus volunteers were persecuted.

I very often come across in different interpretations the numbers of support for the NWO in Russia. It doesn't matter how many percentages there are, the important thing is that, in addition to those who support, there are also those who are against it. They are trying to argue with the majority. But ... "The people are not the same, they do not perceive liberal ideas, they do not want to lie under the West ..."

But there are others. Those who are ready to pick up a machine gun, sit down at the levers tanks, helms of aircraft and boats, rescue the wounded in field hospitals and hospitals under enemy fire, deliver ammunition and food, organize professional work of intelligence, communications, electronic warfare, and so on.

I was delighted with the actions of the head of Chechnya, Kadyrov. He was the first, I don’t know whether in agreement with the president or not, he began to form national battalions of volunteers to be sent to the Donbass. And not only formed, but also engaged in supply, personally came to maintain morale. See how Russia treats Akhmat today.

And, perhaps even more important, how volunteers are treated in the republic itself. How fighters from all over Russia flocked to Chechnya to join a unit. Looking at the video from the Akhmat units, you are not at all surprised at the diversity of faces. A Chechen is next to a Russian, a Russian is next to a Tatar, a Tatar is next to a Yakut, a Yakut is next to a Tuvan…

It is strange to me that only after the “triumph” of the head of Chechnya, other leaders of the Russian regions woke up. It seems that they "did not know" that many fighters from their regions are already fighting in the Donbass. And even more of those who want to help the republics break the back of the Kyiv fascists.

It is strange that the leaders of other Caucasian republics have already sent their national battalions to the Donbass, while the heads of the regions were waiting for something. There are columns from the Caucasian republics, men are selected by competition for the war! By competition! Only the most worthy! Paradoxically, small Chechnya is forming, in addition to those units that are already fighting, four more combat battalions!

The creation of regional divisions of volunteers has long been needed. It is necessary already because it makes it possible to strengthen the units. Through faith, through language, through the traditions of the people, through the mentality. And there is no need to be afraid that someone, some unit will cease to be “Russian”. I think the story about how in Mariupol after "Allah Akbar!" in response, “Hurrah, the Russians have come” flashed - serves as a response to such fabrications.

Once I watched a video of a blogger from Kabardino-Balkaria, where she said an amazing phrase that struck me to the very heart. In a conversation with a representative of one of the Central Asian republics, she, a typical Asian woman, very similar to her interlocutor, said:

“I am a Russian Kabardino-Balkarian. We now, after February 24, are all Russians ... "

How are regional divisions formed?


It is very important to understand how the formation of certain units of volunteers takes place. First of all, about those who act as the vanguard, those who call to join the battalions. These are local veteran organizations with the active support of the authorities. Veterans have become the backbone of the units, and local authorities provide the fighters with equipment and salaries.

Local military registration and enlistment offices deal with procedural issues. Drafting of contracts and other documents, medical examination, etc. By the way, a very important addition to which the military enlistment offices pay attention. Only residents of the region are accepted into the battalions. Training and coordination of units is carried out in the composition in which the battalion arrives in the database zone.

Then the Ministry of Defense comes into play, which already in the combat zone provides fighters weapons, equipment, special equipment and everything that a fighter needs for successful work. The system, as you can see, is quite debugged and efficient.

According to my information, from open sources, of course, about 50 such units have already been created today. I think that residents of regional and republican centers have already watched advertisements for “their” battalions on local television, heard them on local radio, and saw printed ads in their mailboxes.

It is interesting that we finally found something that was found by Russian people long ago. fleet. I'm talking about the names indicating the territorial affiliation of the battalion. I don't know why, but the name of the battalions really attracts people. I spoke with a representative of Kazan. Tatar battalions are simply called "Alga" and "Timer". Especially for those who understand the language: would you like to serve in a unit with that name? “Alga” in Tatar means “Forward”, and “Timer” means “Iron”! It is clear that a unit with such a name simply does not have the right to retreat ...

And what Yakut would not consider it an honor to serve in the Bootur battalion? For us, unfamiliar with the traditions and traditions of this people, this name does not say anything. But, according to legend, it was Allei Bootur who was the progenitor of the Yakuts. A sacred name that cannot be dishonored without discrediting the whole people.

This includes the completely exotic name of the battalion from Tomsk - "Toyan". This name is unknown to most Russians. Meanwhile, this is the prince of the tribe of the Eushta Tatars, who lived on the territory of the Tomsk region in the XNUMXth century, well-known in those places. This is how the memory of the people about the military exploits of their ancestors is being revived today.

There are also more poetic peaceful, so to speak, names of national battalions. For example, the Chuvash "Atal". Communication battalion, in which knowledge of the Chuvash language is mandatory. Exceptions are single. And "Atal" is the name of the well-known Volga River. The river, revered by the Chuvash in the same way as the Russians.

Now just a little about those who have been fighting in the Donbas for many years. About the Cossacks. The capital of the Cossacks, the Kuban Cossack army - Krasnodar Territory, became the place of formation of the Cossack troops. And not only Cubans. Today, about 1 Cossacks are fighting in the Donbass. The training of fighters is carried out in a specially created training center for Cossack volunteers.

According to information from open sources of the Union of Cossack Warriors of Russia and Abroad, today the Don brigade (formerly the Don battalion) has practically been formed as part of the Terek, Kuban battalions (created in May), Yenisei and others. In addition, there is information about the units "Ermak" and "Tavrida". There was also information about the creation of a battalion named after Ataman Zakhary Chepiga (Black Sea Cossack Host) in April.

And finally, regional divisions under the patronage of the heads of regions and territories. Here the main interest is the specialization of units. Each region trains not just "infantry", but specific specialists, whose training is established there.

Drivers, mechanics, machine gunners, gunners of air defense systems are required in the Yakut battalion "Botur" mentioned above. For specialists, the specialization of the unit becomes clear. By the way, quite unexpected for many.

In St. Petersburg "Kronstadt", "Pavlovsk" and "Neva" the composition of the fighters is much more diverse. This diversity shows that the unit is not highly specialized. The Perm company "Parma" is distinguished by the same diversity. Versatility is inherent in motorized rifles.

In general, there are quite a lot of motorized rifle units, companies and battalions. "Amur" (Amur region), named after Kuzma Minin (Nizhny Novgorod region), named after Minigali Shaimuratov (Bashkiria, Ufa), although they are created by veterans of the Airborne Forces, "Angara" (Irkutsk region), "Toyan" (Tomsk) and many other units .

Tyumen was very surprised. Three specialized combat units at once! Artillery division "Siberia", a company of snipers "Taiga" and a sapper battalion "Tobol" (at the initiative of TVVIKU veterans). Agree, a very significant contribution in the conditions of maintaining active databases.

There are also tank battalions - named after Kuzma Minin (Nizhny Novgorod region), "Hammer" (Perm).

Another group of units are those who can be called specialists. These are support units. In addition to the above-mentioned Omsk units "Irtysh", "Avangard" and "Om" (remrota, software company and medical company) and the communications battalion "Atal" (Ufa, Chuvashia), I will mention the Kursk battalion of the MTO "Seim", which will be engaged in the delivery of all necessary. From fuel to building materials and food.

To be continued


Usually I finish the material with some generalizing conclusions and possible prospects for the development of events in the future. Today this is not necessary. People have said everything for themselves and are talking right now. The military registration and enlistment offices daily record a huge number of applications from those wishing to join the units being created.

The volunteer movement received official support from the state. And this means that now a volunteer, in case of injury or death, will not be forgotten. This means that now you do not need to borrow money from friends to buy ammunition and a ticket to the place. This means that before you get into the meat grinder of war, for some time you will remember everything that you were taught in the army. That you will come to zero along with those who were nearby in combat coordination.

I'm just sure that those who signed a contract today as a volunteer will sign a contract to serve in the Russian army in the future. This is such a kind of selection of real fighters. And these volunteers will not be lost in the database zone. So, there will be a sequel. And for the volunteer movement, and personally for each of the volunteers ...
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  1. +32
    10 August 2022 16: 14
    The author for the article plus !!! I propose to form a company, or maybe even a battalion of couch troops in the VO. And then there are so many "warriors" who were all eager to fight, but themselves remained thinner in the comments for Russia, classifying themselves among those who sacrifice their lives THERE.
    1. +19
      10 August 2022 16: 25
      The contribution of any person is important now. Even sofa troops fighting off cissus pigs on the playgrounds are important. Criticism, analysis, elaboration and discussion of situations are of great benefit. Now there are no longer directions in our life that are of little importance.
      1. +11
        10 August 2022 16: 52
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Criticism, analysis, elaboration and discussion of situations are of great benefit.

        For analysis and elaboration, you need to be a specialist in the area being analyzed and worked out, to have all the information necessary for this (not stubby bits from the media), as well as the ability to influence the situation.
        Otherwise, this is nothing more than idle chatter and shaking the air for your own amusement.
        1. +4
          10 August 2022 17: 28
          wy neprawy eto kolektiwnaja rabota odin neset czusz drugij isprawlajet wse wmeste istiny iszczut eto technologia wikipedii
      2. man
        +5
        10 August 2022 18: 13
        Even couch troops fighting off cissus pigs on the playgrounds are important. Criticism, analysis, elaboration and discussion of situations are of great benefit.
        To memorize !!! laughing
      3. +5
        11 August 2022 10: 53
        Right! Countering propaganda is very important.
        Many "couch" products and things are rented out for the people of Donbass and soldiers. I know firsthand.
    2. +16
      10 August 2022 16: 26
      Quote: Banner55
      And then there are so many "warriors" who were all eager to fight, but themselves remained thinner in the comments for Russia, classifying themselves among those who sacrifice their lives THERE.

      You just don’t know how many volunteers from VO were there back in 144-15. And without any official support. That's why rаdeyut for Russia now. They have a right!
      1. +5
        10 August 2022 16: 41
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Banner55
        And then there are so many "warriors" who were all eager to fight, but themselves remained thinner in the comments for Russia, classifying themselves among those who sacrifice their lives THERE.

        You just don’t know how many volunteers from VO were there back in 14-15. And without any official support. That's why rаdeyut for Russia now. They have a right!

        He still doesn't know much.
        1. +6
          10 August 2022 17: 38
          a szto delat ludjom preklonnogo wozrasta, i tem kotorych wraczi nawerstu k kazarme ne puskajut czelowek wojujet na informationnym
          fronte potomu szto jego w armiu za krupnu
          wzjatku ne wozmut naprimer weteran specnaza w wozraste 65-70 let o palke hodit
          zrene isportilos serdce szalit sam znajet szto on fronte budet obuzoj pust komentari piszet
          poka z uma ne wyzilsa
          1. 0
            14 August 2022 21: 03
            wzjatku ne wozmut naprimer weteran specnaza w wozraste 65-70 let o palke hodit
            Directly in the Corps, the conditions for signing a contract are much softer than in the RF Ministry of Defense, I met militias 65+ ......
        2. +5
          10 August 2022 18: 51
          this is the 3rd army corps of 30 battalions, 2 brigades: Odessa and Don
          pulls on 12 brigades, if 3 brigades each, then almost like 4 corps
          Kharkiv, Kherson, Zaporozhye, Rivne
          even in Belarus, the 4th army corps is being formed from the territorial defense forces for the Red Square grouping, 120 people are willing
          no matter how this skating rink rolled out the Baltic States by accident
    3. +21
      10 August 2022 16: 28
      Quote: Banner55
      battalion of sofa troops in the VO.

      1. man
        +4
        10 August 2022 18: 20
        good good good laughing laughing laughing
        Only the color is gloomy, pink is more suitable smile
        1. AUL
          +3
          10 August 2022 21: 19
          Quote: mann
          good good good laughing laughing laughing
          Only the color is gloomy, pink is more suitable smile

          And the color will change depending on the latest "decisions of the party and government", from black to snow-white!
          1. man
            +2
            10 August 2022 21: 56
            And the color will change depending on the latest "decisions of the party and government", from black to snow-white!
            as long as it's not blue smile
      2. -2
        11 August 2022 22: 33
        a serjozno podrazdelenje operatorow BPLA eta dolznost dostupna i starikom i po sostojanju zdorowja k frontu neprigodnym sidet w kresle pered ekrpanom , ispolzowat pribor uprawlenja nazimat knopku puska rakety z etom sprawitsa daze inwalid
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    5. +15
      10 August 2022 16: 31
      In vain sting about the "sofa" warriors who remained at home. And I would be glad, but who will take me at the age of 66? There are a lot of them, I guess. Only in the information field and fight. At least help.
      And the Ukronazis did not have much time left.
      1. +4
        10 August 2022 19: 31
        Quote: Rostislav
        In vain sting about the "sofa" warriors who remained at home. And I would be glad, but who will take me at the age of 66?

        There are a lot of volunteers with such an age. And what does it mean that volunteers are finally recognized by the state? The author probably does not know that starting somewhere in mid-April, the Moscow Region transferred all volunteers to a three-month contract with all the goodies!
        1. 0
          10 August 2022 20: 59
          Quote: Edik
          The author is probably not aware that starting somewhere in mid-April, the Ministry of Defense transferred all volunteers to a three-month contract with all the goodies!

          And before that? At the beginning? at 14-15?
          1. +1
            14 August 2022 21: 07
            And before that? At the beginning? at 14-15?
            Officially, there were no militias, but the power structures of the Russian Federation were supervising and providing (although not immediately, in the spring, the beginning of June 14 was a complete mess ....).
    6. +7
      10 August 2022 16: 33
      I propose to form a company, or maybe even a battalion of sofa troops in the military
      during the Second World War, many regiments and divisions had their own regimental and divisional newspapers, not to mention the army ones ... And journalists were purposefully called up by their specialty to these front-line newspapers. There was even a partisan detachment "JOURNALIST", which was headed by a professional journalist.
    7. man
      +3
      10 August 2022 18: 30
      I propose to form a company, or maybe even a battalion of couch troops in the VO.
      What a battalion, here we will be recruited for a whole army, there are so many generals! laughing I already picked up the abbreviation, ADV!
    8. +6
      10 August 2022 19: 27
      Jsem gaučový voják, jsem starý a nemocný, ale věřím, že se do Ruska dostanou i Češi a zapojí se do boje na té správné straně. Já bych mohl jako specialista na vozítku a holí rozhánět nepřítele. Jsme sice gaučáci, ale je jasné, na které straně stojíme i když u nás se za to zavírá, či přesněji vyhazuje ze zaměstnání. (konkretně pět ucitele) am
    9. +2
      11 August 2022 13: 43
      And name the unit "Meehan".
  2. +6
    10 August 2022 16: 21
    Battalion "Yaik" is formed in the Orenburg region
    1. -4
      10 August 2022 17: 43
      a poczemu ne uralskij kazaczij imeni Uralskowo Kazaczego Wojska jaik wonjaet pugaczewom
      1. -2
        11 August 2022 22: 50
        wsem szto minusujut argumentow net wmeste nich minus istorii Rossji nado uczitsa! after usmirenja pugaczewskego mjateza imperatrica Jekaterina. Welikaja pereimenowala reku na Ural a Kazacze wojsko na Uralskoje wozmozno szto nazwane celenaprawlenno pridumal kakij poklonnik pugaczewa nieiskluczeno komunist
    2. +2
      10 August 2022 23: 23
      And also, a video of a meeting of the Uzbek diaspora about the formation of the Tamerlane battalion from those who have Russian citizenship was sent to telegrams. Alas, the region did not remember.
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    1. +4
      10 August 2022 16: 42
      Invalid comparison.
      You equate volunteer Russian battalions with the neo-fascist organization Azov.
      The article is correct and timely, since reading "British scientists" is a thankless task.
      Only the article turned out to be a postscript after the British, as if something in the government of the Russian Federation was embarrassed. When it comes to national interests, all "nodding" - in the furnace.
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    3. -2
      10 August 2022 17: 49
      nadejus szto za eto wy srok poluczite w UKRF dla takich kak wy statja prisustwujet
    4. 0
      10 August 2022 21: 48
      Quote: aleksandrvvsysop
      in Ukraine there were the Azov battalion and other nominal units.

      You didn't mention the ideology of these units..
  4. 0
    10 August 2022 16: 29
    It’s a good idea if all of them are brought together into a corps, into a single corps and with iron discipline, no matter what happens - I didn’t sign up for this, turned around and left, discipline and court, we also need an oath who didn’t swear, everything needs to be clear explain that this is an army and the Order is sacred! And it was like a report, some did not want to peel potatoes
    1. 0
      10 August 2022 21: 59
      Quote: Saboteur_Navy
      in a single body and with iron discipline,

      There was once the Iron Division of Samaro Ulyanovsk ... I know that in the late 70s it was exemplary .. It was hard to serve there, but honorable .. Iron Division..
  5. +13
    10 August 2022 16: 30
    “I am a Russian Kabardino-Balkarian. We now, after February 24, are all Russians ... "
    THIS IS RUSSIA! I am proud that I am RUSSIAN!
    1. +8
      10 August 2022 16: 56
      Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
      I am proud that I am RUSSIAN!

      Join us!
    2. +2
      11 August 2022 11: 40
      I fully support !!!
      In one of the poems, the national poet of Bashkiria, Mustai Karim, wrote - I am not Russian, but a Russian !!! It was written in the USSR!!!
    3. 0
      14 August 2022 21: 15
      Not a bad song...
  6. +16
    10 August 2022 16: 32
    Indeed, for many years, volunteers from Russia made their way to the territory of the LDNR by hook or by crook. For many years there have been discussions in society about whether mercenaries are volunteers or not. Whether they are prosecuted or not. The Russian leadership was smart enough to "not notice" these discussions, but in Belarus volunteers were persecuted.

    I suspect that in the Russian Federation itself, characters participating on a volunteer basis, especially with weapons in their hands, will still be "under special control" later. I got this impression after the "Russian spring", when a number of characters, quite famous for the events that had taken place, returned, roughly speaking, "shaking hands". In our country, the state traditionally does not like such movements very much, and vice versa, it likes control over the flock very much. So don't be surprised..
    The volunteer movement received official support from the state. And this means that now a volunteer, in case of injury or death, will not be forgotten.

    This is the key moment, because both volunteers and non-volunteers equally effectively tear off limbs, unfortunately. And on the day when our government equates volunteers with benefits (at least proportionately) to contract soldiers, I will be the first to take off my hat and say that this is a good deed. Otherwise, this whole "state-supported but unofficial line" can turn into a well-known bureaucratic phenomenon, when there will be some kind of help "de jure", but "de facto" to receive it, you will need to carry out your own personal special operation, not inferior in terms current.

    I note that although the phenomenon of national volunteer formations NOW seems to be profitable and cool, in the long term of prolonging the conflict and increasing political contradictions within the Russian Federation (because of this or in general), this phenomenon can become a problem. You don’t need to look far for an analogy - just look at what weight in the political space of Ukraine for 8 years former ATO soldiers began to play with nationalist ideas (in fact, these are the same national formations, because they are fettered by the ideology of national exclusivity). The formation and growth of national organizations can quickly develop into near-political movements that have more actual authority within the republics than official power. This can also become a problem, because the current authority of local authorities often exists not due to its abilities, but due to complete impotence of the opposition and the availability of administrative resources.

    A means of curbing these threats could be widely deployed volunteerism under the national auspices - but this is being held back for political reasons (as far as I understand) and also for economic reasons - after all, it’s not enough to call people, you still need to provide them with benefits and guarantees, and both are means and funds .
    1. +4
      10 August 2022 17: 03
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      For 8 years, former ATO soldiers began to play with nationalist ideas in Ukraine

      Something again, strenuously and purposefully, they are trying to compare the incomparable, formations with nationalistic, misanthropic goals with national-regional formations to fight the former.
      1. +2
        10 August 2022 18: 09
        Terenin:

        --With all due respect, formation method, voluntary, subject to comparison.
        1. +1
          10 August 2022 19: 34
          Quote: Michael Drabkin
          Terenin:

          --With all due respect, formation method, voluntary, subject to comparison.

          What, specifically, is the method of organizational measures for the creation of these units
          Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
          to be compared.
          ??
          1. +1
            10 August 2022 19: 51
            Terenin:

            —- With all due respect, in scholasticism and organizational events - I'm not strong.

            ---However, linguistic similarity points to "voluntariness" as a model of formation in both cases.

            —- The sameness of the formation model is a sufficient condition for comparison.
            1. +4
              10 August 2022 20: 06
              Quote: Michael Drabkin
              Terenin:
              —- With all due respect, in scholasticism and organizational events - I'm not strong.
              ---However, linguistic similarity points to "voluntariness" as a model of formation in both cases.
              —- The sameness of the formation model is a sufficient condition for comparison.

              It's too much to screw everything up.
              The experience of organizing these similar volunteer formations was, both during the time of the Russian Empire and during the Second World War, and occupied a significant place in the various activities of state and political structures aimed at providing all possible assistance to the front.
    2. +11
      10 August 2022 17: 06
      The Government of the Russian Federation chose the latter out of two evils - general mobilization or legalized and state-controlled volunteer formations.
      1. +4
        10 August 2022 17: 49
        Why do you call it "evil"?!
        In fact, it is recognized and, I hope, everyone has already realized that there is a powerful confrontation between Russia and NATO. Well, "not today So tomorrow" this should have happened - the formation of goodness. detachments
        1. +3
          10 August 2022 18: 22
          Because there were better options, but it didn’t work out.
          And mobilization, even partial (as in the SUBJECT), is a burden on people, society and the state that could have been avoided.
          But, in order not to repeat once again -
          When it comes to national interests, all "nods" are in the furnace
    3. +7
      10 August 2022 18: 44
      hi
      that although the phenomenon of national volunteer formations NOW seems profitable and cool, in the prospect of prolonging the conflict and growing political contradictions within the Russian Federation (because of this or in general), this phenomenon may become a problem. You don’t need to look far for an analogy - just look at what weight in the political space of Ukraine for 8 years former ATO soldiers began to play with nationalist ideas (in fact, these are the same national formations, because they are fettered by the ideology of national exclusivity). The formation and growth of national organizations can quickly develop into near-political movements that have more actual authority within the republics than official power. This can also become a problem, because the current authority of local authorities often exists not due to its abilities, but due to complete impotence of the opposition and the availability of administrative resources.


      Here, as always, the story will be "multilayered".

      Firstly, the regional government, which simply performs the prescribed and unregistered functions "in the region" and the government capable of moving the BATTALION somewhere, are two different stories in the eyes of the federal government with different, hmm, results.

      Secondly, the power that has a BATTALION is, even in the case of some political and economic disputes, a completely different power than that without "at least a small battalion" or "familiar database veterans."
      IMHO, I understand why the regional authorities took up this matter so zealously: "the sovereign's business" and the benefits are obvious.

      But, even historically, it is not very clear why regional organizations, and not federal ones. Until recently, the federal government has sought to concentrate the "power bloc" precisely in the "federal hands", with one understandable exception. For obvious reasons, I repeat.
      Why now suddenly such a reversal is unclear.

      It is also not very clear to me why volunteer battalions, and not the replenishment of units of the RF SV. IMHO, even Marchenko-Mokrenko compared the actual filling of units with infantry several times (example: https://rostislavddd.livejournal.com/498564.html) and did it disappointingly.
      How would it not be more logical to send personnel to strengthen (bring to the regular strength) existing units?
      The author mentions that "the Ministry of Defense comes into play, which already in the combat zone provides the fighters with weapons, equipment, special equipment and everything that a fighter needs for successful work." But the idea that the fighters in the DB zone begin to receive equipment and everything else, somehow .... Where and how then does training and coordination take place?
      1. +7
        10 August 2022 20: 35
        Firstly, I am confused by the regional approach to the COMMON cause. When (and if) the dust settles in certain regions, the former national participants will concentrate not on some kind of "common" victory, but on their own national contribution, and individual nationalities, due to the greater breadth of movement, will receive a chic bonus for building up their CSV and an array of people pouring into politics characters working on pulling blankets towards these regions. Yes, I'm probably looking too far, but given the experience of our history, ignoring national separatist tendencies in the bud is fraught with disintegration that is no longer hypothetical.
        Secondly, any self-respecting state in this matter SHOULD show the maximum organizing will "from above", albeit "de facto", bypassing legal formalities. With the same style with which they rushed to sculpt various "Youth Army" or "Ours" there. I do not observe this, although the question is quite serious. Instead, everything is at the mercy of the satraps - this does not seem to me a healthy and good decision, enough time has already passed to approach this very clearly.
        Thirdly, I agree with you that it is better to replenish regular units with volunteers. At least for the sake of creating and honing a mechanism of action for partial mobilization (if any).
        The observed picture creates in me a feeling of strong pressure of political considerations over the military, half-measures, and I now express myself as tolerantly as possible ..
        1. +1
          11 August 2022 12: 57
          hi
          Instead, everything is at the mercy of the satraps - this does not seem to me a healthy and good decision, enough time has already passed to approach this very clearly.
          Hmm, it is said a little harshly, but there were several explanations:
          1) Due to the formal impossibility of the Ministry of Defense to recruit "volunteers for the contract." IMHO it's incredible.
          2) Because of the desire of the regional authorities to raise their status to a region capable of fielding battalions.
          3) Because of the next turns in domestic politics, they say, there are "Putin's infantrymen" everywhere.
          4) Due to additional funding, which is not in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the example "Bashkir volunteers will receive money for participating in a special operation. In addition to the monthly allowance from the Ministry of Defense, employees will receive 200 thousand rubles at the conclusion of the contract and 2 thousand rubles daily for expenses. The sources of funding for these payments are not disclosed.
          Read more at RBC:
          https://ufa.rbc.ru/ufa/14/07/2022/62cfdab09a7947eb86b398d9"

          IMHO, the "regions" will now "race" to make their own battalions.

          volunteers are better to replenish regular parts. At least for the sake of creating and honing a mechanism of action for partial mobilization
          IMHO, volunteers are the best motivated military. IMHO, in units with combat experience, they have much more chances to survive and be useful. Moreover, the question of equipment arises, which is not visible in the new battalions. "A motorized rifle battalion consists of a control, 3 motorized rifle companies, platoons: mortar, anti-tank, grenade launcher, anti-aircraft, communications, economic, technical support and a medical center. It is armed with small arms (mostly automatic), grenade launchers, mortars, ATGMs and MANPADS. The motorized rifle battalion has more than 500 personnel and up to 50 infantry fighting vehicles (APCs)"- well, where is all this equipment and where do they learn to manage it ?!

          And "partial mobilization" is when not only volunteers receive weapons, but also those who, to put it mildly, are not volunteers at all.
          In the 20th century on the territory of Russia, IMHO, there were 3 large mobilizations, and how to put it mildly ... according to the results of 2 of them, there are metro stations "Ulitsa 1905 Goda" and "Revolution Square" in Moscow. So, from a purely military point of view, the supporters of mobilization may be right, but from the point of view of domestic politics, not everything is so simple.
  7. -2
    10 August 2022 16: 40
    All these strange formations should not take place in a normally organized army.
    1. +1
      10 August 2022 17: 05
      Quote: Cartalon
      All these strange formations should not take place in a normally organized army.

      And, can you explain this "deep" thought?
      1. -2
        10 August 2022 17: 23
        What is deep in it? Such nonsense happens during civil wars, when the state structure collapses.
        1. +4
          10 August 2022 19: 23
          Quote: Cartalon
          What is deep in it?
          Here I am, same thing.


          Quote: Cartalon
          Such nonsense happens during civil wars, when the state structure collapses.
          What nonsense are you talking about?
      2. Des
        +9
        10 August 2022 19: 52
        Why in our time should national, regional, various private, volunteer and Cossack military units fight as part of (in the end) the RF Armed Forces? Do we not have an army or is it not enough?
        1. +5
          10 August 2022 20: 19
          Quote: Des
          RF Armed Forces? Do we not have an army or is it not enough?

          There are enough forces and means, and the Russian Armed Forces do not ask for help.
          But, it is foolish and short-sighted to refuse those who wish voluntarily to help.
          Volunteers do not have to solve only combat missions. A lot of work in the rear units (medicine, equipment repair ...)
          Volunteers, among other things, will be a very important source of replenishment of personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and other departments, their significant and proven reserve.
          For this, you only need:
          - legislative regulation (volunteer status), goals, objectives and functionality of volunteers under the auspices of law enforcement agencies, and allocate funding sources (federal and regional).
          1. Des
            +3
            10 August 2022 20: 34
            Quote: Terenin
            Volunteers do not have to solve only combat missions. A lot of work in the rear units (medicine, equipment repair ...)
            Volunteers, among other things, will be a very important source of replenishment of personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and other departments, their significant and proven reserve.
            Of course. I don’t see the point in discussing anymore - we are on the same side, but we see it differently. Good luck.
            1. 0
              10 August 2022 20: 38
              Quote: Des
              Quote: Terenin
              Volunteers do not have to solve only combat missions. A lot of work in the rear units (medicine, equipment repair ...)
              Volunteers, among other things, will be a very important source of replenishment of personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and other departments, their significant and proven reserve.
              Of course. I don’t see the point in discussing anymore - we are on the same side, but we see it differently. Good luck.

              Don't be offended. We discuss normally and clarify our understanding.
      3. +1
        11 August 2022 23: 36
        ja ponjal partizanszczinoj czerewato, separom- nacmenom prigoditsa 400 bojcow z wojennym opytom opasnost razczlenenja RF w itoge
  8. 0
    10 August 2022 16: 42
    Great article. Well done author.
    And a wonderful demonstration of the Russian spirit!!!
    It doesn’t matter who you are: a mountaineer, a son of the steppes, a Kalmyk, a Yakut, a Finn, a Mordovian, a Karelian, etc. in the war against the enemy of Russia, you are Russian, and Russians do not give up and always win !!!
    Enemies can't break Russia!!!
  9. -2
    10 August 2022 16: 50
    “I am a Russian Kabardino-Balkarian. We now, after February 24, are all Russians ... "
    . And what is not clear here ... again, the gay European Reich, led by the impudent Saxons, went on a "crusade" to the east!
  10. +3
    10 August 2022 16: 51
    I'm just sure that those who signed a contract today as a volunteer will sign a contract to serve in the Russian army in the future. This is such a kind of selection of real fighters. And these volunteers will not be lost in the database zone. So, there will be a sequel. And for the volunteer movement, and personally for each of the volunteers ..
    Optimistic! Only in peacetime, most likely, volunteer formations will be disbanded ...
  11. for
    +4
    10 August 2022 17: 08
    Specialist. operation and volunteers. Mystery!
    There was no positive shift in all the soldiers in Russia until the people rose up.
    The people have no luck with the government!
  12. +2
    10 August 2022 17: 23
    batalion operatorow BPLA etaja dolznost dostupna wsem
    starikom podrostkom i ludjam neprigodnym armii po sostojanju zdorowja w takij ja dobrowolec
  13. HAM
    +4
    10 August 2022 17: 24
    In my opinion, a "national idea" is slowly beginning to appear in our country, which consists precisely in the fact that we are ONE, no matter what nationality we are --- we are RUSSIAN, and this is expensive ... WE are one country, one people.
    And all the traditional religions of Russia, I believe, will be just that bond of people inhabiting our country, but we celebrate Easter and Eid al-Adha together ....
    PS But BLM will finish, I hope, one "chosen" country .....
    1. -1
      11 August 2022 12: 36
      Those who celebrate TOGETHER and EASTER and Kurban Bayram are what kind of sectarians?
  14. +3
    10 August 2022 17: 27
    Thanks for the news, very good news. plus
  15. +2
    10 August 2022 17: 32
    Great article. If a person fights for Russia, and even more so voluntarily, no one has the right to even ask his nationality. More volunteer formations are formed in those subjects of the Russian Federation where the authorities want it more.
  16. +4
    10 August 2022 17: 51
    In Uzbekistan, participation in unauthorized databases anywhere faces 10 years in prison. But all the same, people who are not indifferent have been going to Donbass since 2014!
  17. +2
    10 August 2022 17: 58
    —-As the Poet forged:

    “... Is it new for us to argue with Europe?
    Il Russian weaned from victories?
    Or a little of us? Or from Perm to Tauris,
    From the Finnish cold rocks to the flaming Colchis,
    From the shocked Kremlin
    To the walls of immobile China,
    Shiny bristles,
    Will not the Russian land rise? ..

    So send us to us, Vitia,
    His angry sons:
    There is a place for them in the fields of Russia,
    Among the coffins that are not alien to them.

    November 1831, XNUMX
    1. +1
      11 August 2022 11: 45
      Excellent !!!
  18. -1
    10 August 2022 18: 00
    Are there links to acts, laws, government decrees? Without specifics, the article is populism.
  19. +7
    10 August 2022 19: 06
    is there a battalion from Moscow? I just didn’t hear about this .. for some reason ..
    1. +2
      10 August 2022 20: 00
      There is, "Voenkomat" is called, for a period of 3,6,9 and 12 months.
      1. -1
        11 August 2022 23: 45
        kak nazywajetsa luczse wsech im Kutuzowa ili gerojew oteczestwennoj wojny 1812 wsja gayropa rossju napala rezultat kazaki w parize
    2. +9
      10 August 2022 20: 44
      Quote: 2 level advisor
      is there a battalion from Moscow? I just didn’t hear about this .. for some reason ..
      Yes, the campaign of the Moscow ,, brigade , will pull up later, to develop the liberated territories .. winked
  20. 0
    10 August 2022 20: 09
    Others are created for the rear support of the army ... the repair company "Irtysh", the company of material support "Avangard" and the medical company "Om".

    this is the correct solution...
    I don’t know how it will be organized, but the same thing that is happening with logistics on its own requires a radical decision ...
    this is where "mobilization" is definitely needed - the transfer of this kind of work to "civilian" volunteers ...
    in general, more correctly, it was necessary to transfer this to civilian specialized organizations - these are jobs, and the economy, and demand ...
    from suppliers-in-lampas, like water off a duck's back...
    Yes, and the rear brigades we once-yes-short of ...
    there are not enough drivers in the autobahns, etc. etc.
    logistics need to be mobilized through outsourcing
  21. +2
    10 August 2022 21: 26
    For example, why am I needed there in the NWO. My specialty is a radiotelegrapher. Who needs my speed of reception and transmission, in conditions of radio interference. Now there is no such thing. In my time, to drag the entire division to the spare frequency, so many nerves were gone. By the way, the decision to switch to the spare frequency was made by myself.
    1. +1
      11 August 2022 14: 38
      How is it, "who needs it?" In an era when the Morse code is reliably forgotten, the auditory telegraph is the most reliable, secretive and noise-proof type of communication. Get TDRku, look for colleagues and - go!
  22. +5
    10 August 2022 21: 33
    It is strange to me that only after the “triumph” of the head of Chechnya, other leaders of the Russian regions woke up. It seems that they "did not know" that many fighters from their regions are already fighting in the Donbass. And even more of those who want to help the republics break the back of the Kyiv fascists.

    What's strange then? Not a single head of the subject is authorized under the current legislation to recruit and maintain armed formations (the region95 is an exception). But when the order and order came from behind the red brick wall, which is in the center of the golden-domed one, then the fuss began, because there I think the number of divisions and states and funding are spelled out, well, the deadlines with RESPONSIBILITY are natural. Do not be children, such movements "at the same time all of a sudden" throughout Russia are not an initiative and not an epiphany on the ground, this is strictly from the very top of the power vertical.
  23. +1
    10 August 2022 22: 34
    If a person performs combat missions in the interests of the state under the command of military leaders, then he is a military man and must receive from the state all types of support established for a military man, or he must be expelled to the rear and held accountable for arbitrariness.
    Commanders and superiors should be empowered to assign status, use and be obliged to provide all types of allowances.
    The fate of the state and the population is being decided. Legislators - deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation - should be closer to the front lines and delve into the issues of the rear, and not just on holidays. And then there will be nowhere to return.
  24. -6
    10 August 2022 22: 39
    A Chechen is next to a Russian, a Russian is next to a Tatar, a Tatar is next to a Yakut, a Yakut is next to a Tuvan…

    Why didn't they mention Armenians, Georgians, Azerbaijanis? lol
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  26. +2
    11 August 2022 08: 46
    Modern volunteer units are the "legendary" Ministry of Defense units of the BARS reserve. In the very, very first reports about their formation, they directly wrote “BARS reserve battalion”. The fact that now the emphasis is on the voluntary principle of recruitment and on the participation of regions in their co-financing is absolutely correct.
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  28. -4
    11 August 2022 11: 08
    I'll say stupidity.
    It seemed to me that hiring volunteers or contacts is like one of the ways to reduce the size of the male population. in problem regions where unemployment, etc. I just look where volunteers are being recruited, Siberia, Buryatia, the Far East.
  29. +1
    11 August 2022 13: 42
    Volunteers are good, they unite the people in a time of trials. But I will speak out against the fact that the media, and the same Solovyov, raises the issue of creating national Ukrainian units in the liberated territories. Offhand, an example of the same Bogunsky regiment, which went over to the side of the Reds at a crucial moment, or the same Anders army is ready to go over to the side of the Germans. Fortunately, intelligence fussed and kicked her out of the country. Where is the guarantee that such parts will be promoted and they will go over to the other side. If they want to fight, let them fight, but in general units. They have no faith.
    1. 0
      11 August 2022 23: 57
      1. agree bditelnost neobhodima osobisty toze
      2.na kakoj organ nam ukrowlasowcy
  30. +1
    11 August 2022 15: 02
    In Omsk, they promise a salary of 130 thousand rubles, in other regions it is much higher - up to 300 thousand rubles. Moreover, Omsk volunteers immediately go to three "nominal" units - the Irtysh repair company, the Avangard material support company and the Om medical company. But the salary is the same everywhere.
    Volunteers fight for free, and therefore do not fall under the article mercenarism.
    And so these are contractors, all the more they are paid from the budget. Why, then, produce new structures, if it is possible to enter the existing ones on a contract?! Especially now, when it is necessary to replenish losses.
    1. R.F
      0
      20 August 2022 01: 15
      Volunteers, this is before the signing of the contract. After they join the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Just a personalized battalion ... but according to the papers, for example, it will be the third motorized rifle.
      I visited a recruiting station the other day and talked about this topic. The officer bluntly said that everyone is signing a contract with the Defense Ministry, and not with Ataman Zagorulko ... with the corresponding rights and obligations from here.
      I am currently collecting certificates and documents, then to the training center for at least two weeks, depending on the position, and then leaving with the property entrusted to me to the PMD in the unit. And then there's the ribbon...
  31. 0
    11 August 2022 15: 48
    national battalions
    I wonder why a battalion has not yet been formed from Russian Jews and sent to Ukraine to fight Chabad soldiers there?
    1. -1
      12 August 2022 00: 01
      neispolnimo uze wse wojenno prigodnyje w CAHAL dobrowolcami wstupili
      1. 0
        15 August 2022 16: 02
        otwet minusujuszczemu po zakonam izraela u wsechwseh jewrejew mira neosporime prawo na grazdanstwo ERETZ ISRAEL iz etogo jest prawo dobrowolcom w CAHAL w stupit ja udiwelsa szto Urgant ne wospolzowlsa trusit? or zalowane ne ponrawilos dobrowolcem or po pryzywu eto uze tonkosti zakona
  32. +3
    11 August 2022 17: 18
    The battalion became the basic operational unit. This is both good and bad. For example, a division does not consist of separate battalions, that is, it is not enough to simply sum up a certain number of battalions in order to call the unit a division after recruiting, for example, 10-14 thousand people. We need the initial divisional layout, taking into account the fact that we get a large self-sufficient military formation capable of solving a wide range of tasks on a fairly wide sector of the front. In the meantime, we are getting some kind of "battalion thinking" and "battalion advancement" .. Explicit overkill with all sorts of newfangled "battalion tactical groups", with the help of which you can get bogged down in battles, but you can't develop a major offensive as part of a major military operation . In addition, if volunteer battalions rush into the cauldron of hostilities one by one, to plug holes and compensate for losses, then significant successes in the NMD cannot be expected. The current situation in the Ukrainian theater of military operations, in my opinion, severely and urgently requires the introduction of forces and means with a total number of at least half a million people into battle, moreover, they are involved in several strategic directions at once. What will it give? Time will start working for Russia, and not against it, as it is now: the Ukrainians will not have time to blow up the nuclear power plant, which means that our guys will not have to swallow nuclear dust, in addition, NATO will not have time to supply Ukraine with modern aviation, further, large-scale strikes will simply demoralize the defense, deprive its ability to maneuver reserves. And most importantly, the decisive superiority of Russian forces and means will discourage NATO from increasingly large-scale and serious provision of the AFU with weapons and equipment and open hostilities on other sectors of the Third World War front.
  33. +1
    11 August 2022 21: 18
    It all started in Ukraine too
    from volunteer armed groups.
    And in Germany, too, under Hitler.
    It's a dangerous thing, freedom.
    Like toothpaste - easy to squeeze out,
    impossible to push back.
    1. 0
      12 August 2022 12: 02
      After all, we have such a people: If the Motherland is in danger, So everyone should go to the front.
      V.Vysotsky
      Do not be afraid, comrade, the war will end - they will hand over their weapons, the Banners, the units will be disbanded and all the survivors will return home.
      As it was after the Great Patriotic War. Many volunteer battalions, regiments, divisions and even corps fought then...

      And I believe - there will be more international divisions -
      the names of "Colonel Gaddafi", "Commandant Fidel Castro" and "Che Guevara", "President Saddam Hussein", "Kim Il Sung", "Ho Chi Minh City" ... for many people the Yankees and Anglo-Saxons annoyed, ruined, let go around the world .. .
  34. 0
    12 August 2022 08: 41
    “I am a Russian Kabardino-Balkarian. We now, after February 24, are all Russians ... "

    The rallying of peoples is certainly good and I am glad about it, but there is no need to blur the boundaries between national characteristics, a Chechen will always know that he is a Chechen, the same with Dagestan and Kabardian, Russians are Russians or do you want to leave the Slavs without nationality at all? Make faceless?
  35. +2
    12 August 2022 11: 46
    volunteers are recognized by the state

    Not a complete list of volunteer units for today (from the media and social networks) -
    Bashkiria - 2 battalions: named after the hero of the USSR Minigali Shaimuratov and the hero of Russia Alexander Dostavalov
    Irkutsk region - "Angara" battalion
    Karelia -2 battalions
    Kirov region - battalion "Vyatka"
    Moscow - 1 battalion
    Murmansk region - 1 battalion
    Nizhny Novgorod region - battalion named after Kuzma Minin
    St. Petersburg - 3 battalions: "Kronstadt", "Neva" and "Pavlovsk"
    Orenburg region - battalion "Yaik"
    Perm Territory - 2 battalions: "Parma" and "Hammer"
    Primorsky Krai - battalion "Tiger"
    Tatarstan - 2 battalions: "Alga" and "Timer"
    Tomsk, battalion "Toyan", MTO
    Tyumen region - 3 battalions: "Tobol", "Taiga", Siberia"
    Chelyabinsk region - 2 battalions: "South Ural", "South Ural" (very original, yes)
    Chechnya - 4 battalions: "South-Akhmat", "North-Akhmat", "East-Akhmat", "West-Akhmat"
    Chuvashia - battalion "Atal"
    South of Russia - Cossack units.

    As you can see, there are no volunteer units from Yekaterinburg and the region, probably, the well-known center does not order the leadership on the spot ... lol
  36. 0
    12 August 2022 14: 34
    Yes, our state apparatus is clumsy and making decisions like the empire from Warhammer 40 thousand laughing
    1. 0
      12 August 2022 15: 07
      important. Manal I this phone.
  37. 0
    15 August 2022 15: 49
    Quote: 72jora72
    regiments 65+

    wozmozno oni wojenwraczi or swjazisty ne specnazowcy wsem polozeno po swojej spejalnosti wojewat perepodgotowki ne iskluczaju operator BPLA or osobist toze starikom dostupny i dostojny weteranu diowersantu