IDF: More Gazans killed due to missing Islamist missiles than IDF strikes

Unsuccessful missile launches by the Islamic Jihad group against Israel are the cause of deaths in the territory of the Palestinian Authority, including children. More Gazans have been killed by Islamist missiles undershot than by IDF strikes.

This was announced to reporters at a briefing by the representative of the Israel Defense Forces Ran Kochav.

The officer said that a total of 27 civilians in the Gaza Strip had died as a result of the fighting over the past couple of days. Of these, 16 civilians lost their lives due to unsuccessful missile launches by militants of the Islamic Jihad group. The Israel Defense Forces are responsible for the deaths of the remaining 11 people.

The IDF also claims that during the shelling of Palestinian territory, it managed to destroy 24 members of the Islamic Jihad group.

Kokhav said the Israeli military will learn from the deaths of 11 Gaza civilians who did not take part in the fighting.

According to the IDF, the militants fired a total of 1100 rockets in the direction of Israel. Of these, about 200 did not fly and fell on the territory of Gaza.

The Ministry of Health of the Gaza Strip reports 24 dead, including six children and two women. At the same time, 203 people were injured.

The Israeli military launched Operation Dawn in the Palestinian Authority this Friday. They are inflicting intense strikes on targets in the Gaza Strip.

Comments

[Carlos Hall]

They're not going anywhere with these slingshots. Four slingshots and several blowguns. Israel wields commercial economic liberal power and has taken over the US, resulting in the Anglo-Saxons being reduced to the role of grandpa's folklore battles. The real liberal force is Israel and its more or less powerful ramifications in different countries. The Russian oligarchs in London and the Mediterranean know where they're going, which is why they suddenly fell in love with Israel. They represent the fifth column in all its splendor. Thanks to the decision of the kings in 1492, Spain built an empire where the sun did not set, but in the 19th century they regained power with freemasonry, and the result is visible. If Russia falls into the hands of the fifth column, as in 1985, it will lose the war and be completely destroyed by a crowd of liberals, Freemasons and Zionists. Today, Russia has a large army and powerful weapons, and tomorrow, if it loses, it will be enslaved, and the people will have to fight, like the Palestinians, with sticks and stones.

[tralflot1832]

We will consider your wishes.

[Shurik70]

Interestingly, any destruction of civilian facilities in Gaza can be attributed to enemy action.
Hamaz will say that Israel did it, Israel - that the shortfall of the Hamaz rocket.
And they will say to any evidence of the enemy that it is a fake (it is not difficult to bring the necessary fragments into place)

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Shurik70

Israel - that the shortfall of the Hamaz missile.

So they shoot themselves! Classic!

[And Us Rat]

Quote from Carlos Sala

and will be completely destroyed by a crowd of liberals, Masons and Zionists

Put on a tinfoil hat, it will help.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: And Us Rat

Put on a tinfoil hat, it will help.

It won't help him!

[Carlos Hall]

No, he doesn't understand. Liberals, Zionists and Freemasons took power when they raised the mole Gorbachev and lost it when they installed an unknown person who, in their opinion, could be manipulated and they were wrong.
Look friends, if they were still in power, Chechnya would not be with Russia, Syria would fall, Abkhazia and Ossetia would not exist, Crimea would not be Russian or Dombass. Do you want me to continue?

[U_GOREC]

Quote from Carlos Sala

Do you want me to continue?

Of course! You didn't answer the main question! I asked about CAPITAL!!! Who owns the means of production now? And who do you think they should belong to?

[Carlos Hall]

The interests of Russia as an independent country and a historical power are above all else. Tsars, Stalin, Putin, they were all patriots of different signs. On the contrary, Gorbachev, liberals, Freemasons and Zionists want only one thing, total US hegemony and the destruction of Russia, that's my answer.

[U_GOREC]

Quote from Carlos Sala

The interests of Russia as an independent country and a historical power are above all else. Tsars, Stalin, Putin, they were all patriots of different signs. On the contrary, Gorbachev, liberals, Freemasons and Zionists want only one thing, total US hegemony and the destruction of Russia, that's my answer.

Is Russian not native to you? Do you not understand the meaning of my question? I don’t need to shove general phrases from patriotic agitation!
I'm asking a very simple and very specific question!
TO WHOM NOW OWN AND WHO SHOULD OWN THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION in your opinion???
You don't understand what I mean?

[Boycott]

Some theater. Back in my school years (70s), I was perplexed by messages from the Middle East: "after a week of fierce fighting, 11 people were wounded, 3 were killed"

[And Us Rat]

Quote: BoyCat

Back in my school years (70s), I was perplexed by messages from the Middle East: "after a week of fierce fighting, 11 people were wounded, 3 were killed"

It is propaganda, more narrative, less logic.
It's just that those reports "forgot" to mention that these "fierce battles" were fought between a police squad and three goatherds with one berd for three, and 11 were wounded and 3 killed - this included goats and a ram slaughtered at the wake.

And today the explanation is simple. Missiles from Gaza can only kill someone by accident, And Israel is pointwise hammering at warehouses with missiles, launchers and production shops, and of the ringleaders. It makes no sense to hunt ordinary militants from the air, and they do not gather in large groups.
Or do you want the IDF to flood Gaza with napalm?

[Boycott]

Or do you want the IDF to flood Gaza with napalm? 

Yes, I somehow parallel what they are doing there. But I know for sure that at such a pace they will "fight" there until the end of the century. The leaders of the militants will last faster than the Jews dispose of them. And they do a circus with canned rockets.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: BoyCat

The leaders of the militants will last faster than the Jews dispose of them.

So the fun will never end.
There is a joke in Israel:

"Schedule of militants in Gaza"
05:00 Rise and prayer.
05-10 Elections of the chief mahmud.
05-20 Salvo on Israel.
05-30 Pulling out the cradles.
05-40 Funeral of the chief mahmud.
05-50 Breakfast.
06-10 Elections of the head mahmud....

[U_GOREC]

Quote: BoyCat

The leaders of the militants will last faster than the Jews dispose of them. And they do a circus with canned rockets.

So you are in favor of the genocide of the Palestinian people?

[Boycott]

I'm not advocating anything, I'm stating a fact. But in fact, there is a genocide not of the people, but of the chief mahmuds, as a colleague wrote above.

[tralflot1832]

Ukrainian training manual, not seriously.

[Trapp1st]

Ukrainian training manual, not seriously.

Again, those stubborn from the terrorist sect are acting weird. Israel needs urgent denazification and a return to the borders before May 14, 1948. Only this can become a guarantee of peace in the region.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Trapp1st

Israel needs urgent denazification and a return to the borders before May 14, 1948.

You can sign up for Hamas and start doing it.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: And Us Rat

You can sign up for Hamas and start doing it.

Why does he need to sign up? Now Iran will resume its nuclear program, slap bombs and denazify itself
I take it you're writing from somewhere in Haifa?

[And Us Rat]

Quote from U_GOREC

Iran

Salmon tuna, perhaps.

Py.Sy. South of Haifa, I don't like Haifa.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: And Us Rat

Salmon tuna, perhaps.

It will be very interesting to see your attempt to strike Iran By the way, I always thought - why do you have such a mutual dislike? They lived in the same state, spoke the same language .... Yes, most of your sacred texts are written in Aramaic ... Something vital, like we have with h.o.h.l.a.m.i? Although ... you, as a repatriate, are hardly in the subject ...

Quote: And Us Rat

Py.Sy. South of Haifa, I don't like Haifa.

Isn't it in Gaza?

[And Us Rat]

Quote from U_GOREC

you have such a mutual dislike

She is not mutual. We don't care about them, they got to the bottom of it.

Quote from U_GOREC

Isn't it in Gaza?

Nearly.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: And Us Rat

She is not mutual. We don't care about them, they got to the bottom of it.

Well, yes, so in figs that you just kill their civilians, scientists for example. So this is state terrorism ...

[And Us Rat]

Quote from U_GOREC

you just kill their civilians

And you, according to this logic, "you kill Ukrainian civilians for no reason," did I understand correctly?
OR IS THIS OTHER?
Have you decided to compete with the impudent Saxons in lecimeria and double standards?

[U_GOREC]

Quote: And Us Rat

And you, according to this logic, "you kill Ukrainian civilians for no reason," did I understand correctly?

That is, you equate the collateral losses in a military operation with the deliberate, deliberate killing of a civilian in another country with which there is no war? And this is my double standard? I beg of you
Actually, it's called terrorism!

[And Us Rat]

Quote from U_GOREC

Actually, it's called terrorism!

This is called the elimination of enemy military personnel during the war. All these "scientists" served in Ksir and had military ranks, and Iran is conducting military operations against Israel. Regular drone infiltrations, attempts on diplomats, terrorist attacks against Israeli tourists around the world, provocations and attacks through controlled terrorist organizations, and so on and so forth. But of course you prefer not to notice this, you pay attention only to Israel's response. There is hypocrisy in this.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: And Us Rat

But of course you prefer not to notice this, you pay attention only to Israel's response. There is hypocrisy in this.

Reciprocal? Are you serious - reciprocal??? That is you, here personally you! I mean specifically YOU, under the nickname legion or whatever you really are ... We arrived on a land to which neither personally YOU, neither your parents nor your grandparents have, absolutely, no relation! With the exception of religious tales that, supposedly, thousands of years ago, your distant ancestors, at will god were forced to leave this promised land for their sins... and here are their "descendants" are back! And the fact that people have been living on this land for centuries - the Palestinians ... think what a bad luck ... We will expel, demolish houses and build our settlements on these places! By the will of God! And why don't they love us and start some kind of intifada... Savages, second-rate! Yes, how dare they raise hail on God's chosen ones? In response to this we will kill them!
And no hypocrisy!!!
This concludes the discussion! And then no matter how the message, so everything is on the topic Israeli army! Enough already! I deeply care about Israel, and its army, and the Jews themselves! I expressed my opinion. I heard your...

[And Us Rat]

Quote from U_GOREC

You came to a land to which neither YOU personally, nor your parents, nor your grandparents have absolutely nothing to do with!

And what choice did we have, continue to live with you and wait for pogroms? Listening daily to "well .... you bring down to your Israel"? So-so perspective.
And personally I already Yes, I have something to do with this country, I grew up here, swore an oath, and fought for it.

And by the way! Iranians have even less to do with it! But they stick their nose in here anyway.

Quote from U_GOREC

And the fact that people have been living on this land for centuries - Palestinians ...

Nonsense and nonsense. Bedouins and Jews have lived here for centuries. "Palestinians" was invented by the KGB of the USSR in 1964, based on labor migrants from Egypt and Syria. Some of which were brought by the Ottomans for the construction of the railway from Turkey to Saudi Arabia, and most came in the 19th century, AFTER the first wave of Jewish repatriates, as the Jewish Yishuv began to create jobs in agriculture. up to 90% of these migrants worked on Jewish fields bought by patrons from the Ottomans.

They even admit it themselves - that they are an artificial invention:

Quote from U_GOREC

Let's kick out, tear down houses

Nonsense, in 1948 they fled under pressure from the Arab armies, freeing them from a bridgehead. You are replicating propaganda clichés.

Quote from U_GOREC

Yes, how dare they raise hail on God's chosen ones? In response to this, we will kill them!!!

Not hail, but a weapon. Which is a natural reaction. Or, as you wanted, unrequited pogrom Jews? And the skin will not wrap from appetites?

Quote from U_GOREC

I expressed my opinion.

biased and stereotypical.

[Trapp1st]

Can you join Hamas?

I'm on the payroll of Iran!? forgot what?

[Zagrebun]

Have you shot yourself again?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Zagrebun

Have you shot yourself again?

From air conditioners.

[AUL]

No, it was Israel that fired at itself with 1100 rockets for two days. Here are the damned militarists!

[Santa Fe]

fired at himself for two days with 1100 rockets

Israel only needs a couple of missiles

Real missiles like Sarmat

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Santa Fe

Israel only needs a couple of missiles
Real missiles like Sarmat

Enough, but the price for such a thing does not have an adequate justification.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: And Us Rat

Enough, but the price for such a thing does not have an adequate justification.

Have you already calculated the price?

[And Us Rat]

Quote from U_GOREC

Have you already calculated the price?

Not me. But here everything is on the surface. The destruction of Israel will cost several million-plus cities. That is, nothing is justified.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: And Us Rat

The destruction of Israel will cost several million-plus cities.

What cities are you talking about?

[And Us Rat]

Quote from U_GOREC

What cities are you talking about?

About the cities of the one who attacks. This is simple mathematics.
10-15 warheads are enough to destroy most of the civilian population, but not even close enough to uproot all military installations with nuclear weapons. Here you need an order of magnitude higher consumption - 150 warheads, but such an expense will expose more strategically important areas.
Further, real-time access to American warning satellites gives a chance to have time to launch a reciprocal salvo (up to 100 warheads), plus the "dead hand" system, without which nuclear weapons are really useless for such a small country, plus KR on duty submarines.
And even if only 10% of the response reaches targets (10-15 warheads) that are not covered by a suitable missile defense system (and ICBMs at a flat and short distance are high hypersonic approach), then in the bottom line we have up to 10 million killed. That is, the exchange is almost one to one. And the consequences for the economy, demography and ecology are generally a ticket to third world countries.

The system was created as a response to nuclear blackmail by the USSR, therefore, all possible options are calculated in it, so that even superpowers, including the United States, by the way, would not escape retaliation if they decide to complete the undertakings of one psychopathic Fuhrer.
And most importantly, the rulers of other nuclear countries are well aware of all this.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: And Us Rat

launch a counter salvo (up to 100 warheads)

So you're saying that Israel has 100 warheads? Where does such data come from? Do you have anything to do with this or is it a "common place" in Israel? Well, like, even Aunt Sarah knows about it?

Quote: And Us Rat

The system was created as a response to nuclear blackmail by the USSR

Details, please? What kind of blackmail is this? Here is the only country that used nuclear weapons, and against the civilian population - I know ... And Soviet nuclear blackmail what's this?

[And Us Rat]

Quote from U_GOREC

So you're saying that Israel has 100 warheads?

Not me, but the Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation, the CIA, Mi-6 and a dozen more or less competent sources.
Estimates vary from 90 to 400 warheads, including thermonuclear (up to 1 mt) and neutron ones.

Quote from U_GOREC

Do you relate to this?

You understand that I would not have answered this in any case. Therefore, we will rely on open sources.

Quote from U_GOREC

Details, please? What kind of blackmail is this?

Every time the Arabs got pissed off, the USSR brought a nuclear submarine with nuclear missiles into the Mediterranean, and veiledly, through third parties, hinted to Israel that this was to their liking.
Israel got fed up with this, and the ballistic missile program was added to the nuclear program, and as soon as missiles appeared (in the early 80s) flying to the southern regions of the USSR, the rattling of bonboys towards Israel ceased. Since intimidating the defenseless is one thing, but risking provoking a nuclear conflict is another. The USSR knew from the experience of the Arabs that Israel took threats too seriously, preferring to think that the enemy was not bluffing, since it was more reliable that way. The 1967 war is a prime example of the Arabs playing with bluff and intimidation. In simple words - dovyezhivalis.

Quote from U_GOREC

Here is the only country that used nuclear weapons, and against the civilian population - I know ...

And Israel knows, therefore it has ICBMs that throw a ton (3 rgch) at 11500 km. The entire east coast of the US is within reach.

[U_GOREC]

Quote from AUL

No, it was Israel that fired at itself with 1100 rockets for two days. Here are the damned militarists!

Yes you! Israel is a purely peaceful pacifist state! He is friends with all the neighbors and does not seize the territory of anyone! Look at our representatives conscience of the nationwho could not bear to live in an aggressive state at war with its neighbors! And if they live there now, then in Israel the lions lay down next to the lambs!!!

[AUL]

Quote from U_GOREC

Look at our representatives of the conscience of the nation, who could not bear to live in an aggressive state at war with its neighbors! And if they live there now, then in Israel the lions lay down next to the lambs!!!

I didn't understand your idea. What are you trying to say?

[U_GOREC]

Quote from AUL

I didn't understand your idea. What are you trying to say?

What if Israel were a militaristic state at war with its neighbors, they would have long ago come out in support of Palestine, condemned the Israeli military, declared all Israeli patriots to shake hands and leave the promised land! They are conscience!

[Petr_Koldunov]

Yeah. In short, the Palestinians fired on themselves. And their air conditioner exploded... We hear this almost every day from Zelensky/arrestovichs.
And Makarevich? With a Palestinian flag and an anti-war poster, is he already roaming the streets of Tel Aviv?

[Asad]

Do you think that a "rocket" made of shit and sticks cannot fall ahead of time?

[U_GOREC]

Quote: ASAD

Do you think that a "rocket" made of shit and sticks cannot fall ahead of time?

Do you think the Palestinians are such novice Queens? During the day, they sell peach in the market, and at night they make rockets in the garage?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

In short, the Palestinians fired on themselves.

Another cartoon:
Tel Aviv is being fired at quite by serial Iranian / Syrian missiles - from 122-mm Fajers to all sorts of Persian products of more serious calibers.
Cities at a distance of 15-40 km from Gaza, such as Ashdod and Beer Sheva, are treated with katyushas and grads, incl. North Korean and Chinese made.
And everything that is within a radius of 5-12 km is covered with self-made missiles, with a large percentage of defects. These in frantic numbers land in Gaza itself

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

And Makarevich? With a Palestinian flag and an anti-war poster, is he already roaming the streets of Tel Aviv?

There was a fake with Makarevich - he walked with the Russian flag, he was photoshopped Ukrainian. I do not agree with his position, because in troubled times it’s not good to poop on the country that made you a person, and not poor, but you shouldn’t attribute to him what didn’t exist, they slandered him with the flag.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Krasnodar

There was a fake with Makarevich - he walked with the Russian flag, he was photoshopped Ukrainian. I do not agree with his position, because in troubled times it’s not good to poop on the country that made you a person, and not poor, but you shouldn’t attribute to him what didn’t exist, they slandered him with the flag.

Can you elaborate on this moment? I just can't imagine Makarevich with the Russian flag...

[Krasnodar]

Drive into Yandex - Makarevich with the Ukrainian flag fake

[U_GOREC]

Driven. But apparently Google is less interested in Makarevich than you And to spend time searching for this x.r.e.n.i ...

[Krasnodar]

Yes, he is on my side, I watched an interview with him in a cautious Sobchak))
Not a fan of his work, neither him nor the Time Machine

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

Yeah. In short, the Palestinians fired on themselves. And their air conditioner exploded... We hear this almost every day from Zelensky/arrestovichs.
And Makarevich? With a Palestinian flag and an anti-war poster, is he already roaming the streets of Tel Aviv?

Our timid patriots stuck their tongues out ... and not a single one blurted out no war.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

Our timid patriots stuck their tongues out ... and not a single one blurted out no war.

Well, they will be kicked out to ... to hell with dogs from Israel! Where will the unfortunate go, who will cry ...

[Krasnodar]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

Yeah. In short, the Palestinians fired on themselves. And their air conditioner exploded... We hear this almost every day from Zelensky/arrestovichs.
And Makarevich? With a Palestinian flag and an anti-war poster, is he already roaming the streets of Tel Aviv?

Our timid patriots stuck their tongues out ... and not a single one blurted out no war.

Quote: 30 vis

Quote from ARIONkrsk

Our timid patriots stuck their tongues out ... and not a single one blurted out no war.

Well, they will be kicked out to ... to hell with dogs from Israel! Where will the unfortunate go, who will cry ...

No one will kick you out - they just won't understand. In Israel, during the war, it is customary to support the government - the supreme commander in chief, etc. There is nothing to talk about criticizing the army (I'm not talking about constructive debriefing) - children, brothers, sisters, etc. risking their lives, what the hell is criticism? But, there are individual freaks, as a rule, ultra-leftists, they are their own, most of them served and this is accepted with a creak, like the family has its black sheep.
On the part of some new arrivals, this will be perceived as an amateurish delirium of a third-party brow, such as swearing out loud by a drunk with a squirrel. Therefore, our Galkinmakvgrebenshchikovs, who did not lie to anyone in Israel, are sitting quietly.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Krasnodar

No one will kick you out - they just won't understand. In Israel, during the war, it is customary to support the government - the supreme commander in chief, etc.

How it poured from the soul!
Yes, you have this one there, like him ... but - that-ta-li-ta-rism of some kind.

Quote: Krasnodar

Therefore, our Galkinmakvgrebenshchikovs, who did not lie to anyone in Israel, are sitting quietly.

And good. And let them sit. The main thing is not to return. I want, while alive, to see at least one Blue Light without Pugacheva.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Alexey RA

I want, while alive, to see at least one Blue Light without Pugacheva.

I'm afraid it's a pipe dream

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alexey RA

Yes, you have this one there, like him ... but - that-ta-li-ta-rism of some kind.

Otozh! For nefig!

[U_GOREC]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

Our timid patriots stuck their tongues out ... and not a single one blurted out no war.

Who are you calling patriots?

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

And Makarevich? With a Palestinian flag and an anti-war poster, is he already roaming the streets of Tel Aviv?

You don’t understand - this is different!

[Sergio_7]

Kokhav said the Israeli military will learn from the deaths of 11 Gaza civilians who did not take part in the fighting.

What lessons will be learned? Don't fight? Funny....

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Sergio_7

What lessons will be learned? Don't fight? Funny....

They will put rockets that are reliable in use as a "goodwill gesture".

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Sergio_7

What lessons will be learned? Don't fight? Funny....

It's funny in the circus
And sweat about the lessons, you can watch, think and even learn (which is never too late)

TRANSFER
man 60 meters from the target
goal delayed
The same goal (missile depot) from a different angle after a while
target hit cyclist and car unharmed
And this is how their missiles kill their own

Look what the targeted elimination of the leaders of terror Islamic jihad was left without leadership.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

And sweat about the lessons, you can watch, think and even learn (which is never too late)

Agree with you completely! Competent propaganda needs to be learned!!! Here in the Moscow Region they don’t think of making such videos! Although what is difficult - I took the data of objective control, overlaid the desired sound track with the desired timing and go!

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

And this is how their missiles kill their own

You just haven't seen the video from the drone! I would post, but the owner has banned viewing in your country Translation from Arabic: man 60 meters from the target
Target delayed, Allahu Akbar!

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote from U_GOREC

I would post, but the owner has banned viewing in your country

Why do you think it was banned?

Quote from U_GOREC

Competent propaganda needs to be learned!!! Here in the Moscow Region they don’t think of making such videos!

No comment (understandable reason?)

Quote from U_GOREC

Although what is difficult - I took the data of objective control, put the right sound track with the right timing and go!

Once upon a time, I already answered such thoughts.
In Israel, journalists dig the ground to find what you write about and no one can shut their mouths.
There is a trial of Netanyahu, at the suggestion of a journalist. That his friend, a billionaire, brought him expensive cigars from Australia, and French champagne for his wife.
In Israel, this is considered a bribe, although a friend in return did not receive any preferences in business.
I asked many, but if I brought "Pamir" and "Solntsedar" would everything be fine?
I mean, your tricks don't work here.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

In Israel, journalists dig the ground to find what you write about and no one can shut their mouths.

What are you! I will believe you if you show me at least one story by Israeli journalists about how civilians are dying at the hands of the IDF!

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

I asked many, but if I brought "Pamir" and "Solntsedar" would everything be fine?

Eeee .... I do not understand your logic. What did you mean Apparently the direction of the letter determines the way of thinking ...

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Nataniahu's Trial Underway

You have something to strive for - South Korea!!!

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote from U_GOREC

I will believe you

Believe it or not, I didn't ask you to.

Quote from U_GOREC

Eeee .... I do not understand your logic. What did you mean

You were just born late, that's why you don't understand.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

You were just born late, that's why you don't understand.

And you, apparently, are so early that age-related changes have already begun? I know what Pamir and Solntsedar are. I wrote that I do not understand your logic. I hope she's still there...

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Believe it or not, I didn't ask you to.

Well, that is, not a single example when honest, real Israeli journalists, to whom no one can close their mouths (!!!) wrote something that casts a shadow on the IDF (for example, about war crimes) you cannot ...
This is what I meant

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote from U_GOREC

Well, that is, not a single example when honest, real Israeli journalists, to whom no one can close their mouths

There are no Israeli journalists on the territory of Gaza and there are an abundance of Arab ones, so there is a lot of FALSE information, there are filming of the army that are being conducted continuously and refute them. But war is war. During the liquidation of the leader of the Islamic Jihad, his children died and he knew that sooner and later he would be liquidated. He must think about the children when the Israelis were killed in Heder, Tel Aviv in Bnei Brak.

Quote from U_GOREC

I know what Pamir and Solntsedar are. I wrote that I do not understand your logic.

The logic is simple.
The gifts were VERY expensive, thousands of Lollards, and therefore the leftists were looking for a reason to throw off Nataniyahu, but if they were cheap, no one would have paid attention.

[BARKAS]

Unsuccessful missile launches of the group "Islamic Jihad" in Israel is the cause of death of people in the territory of the Palestinian Authority,

Unsuccessful launches are those that were shot down, you need to understand.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: BARKAS

Unsuccessful launches are those that were shot down, you need to understand.

No, these are those whose engine did not work properly, and they did not even reach the border, falling on their own heads.

[navigator777]

It's like the Ukrainians say, "they fired on themselves and killed themselves"
Their patrons are the same, and therefore the methods are the same.

[HAM]

Makarevich and Co. have already condemned the actions of the Israeli government, or is it something else?

[Vladimir Michailovich]

Yeah, the Palestinians are shelling themselves, what a fresh thought ...

[Kesha1980]

I was surprised that this special was not covered in VO.
I’ll add on my own - they began to “nightmare” Israel after the so-called liquidation of one of the leaders of Jihad, civilians were present in the casualties. Including a girl. Infa was written on many news sites. Surprising is the absence of this chronology in this article.

[Kesha1980]

Equally, this info could be added.

An Israeli army officer opened fire on RT Arabic correspondent Yafa Statei during a live broadcast on the border with Palestine, according to the RT Telegram channel.
“This happened after the officer noticed that the camera of the film crew was directed at him. At this time, the military was concentrating forces on the protesting Palestinians who were in support of Gaza,” the report says.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Kesha1980

Israeli army officer opens fire on RT Arabic correspondent Yafa Statei

A clear example of the manipulation of public opinion, through the style of presenting information.
Just like Western journalists in Ukraine.

I watched the video of this episode here - https://russian.rt.com/world/news/1034721-izrailskii-voennyi-palestina.
Soldier took aim in their direction of non-lethal tear gas projectile. In principle, it is impossible to kill from this, except to score with a butt. Apparently the "reporters" covered the rioters with themselves.
Arab reporters generally like to act as a human shield for the rioters, so that later they would squeal about the lawlessness of the IDF, having swallowed tears.
They are not there for news, but in search of an opportunity to catch the IDF soldiers from an unsuccessful angle, which can then be inflated into some kind of another blood libel. Vultures from the media.

[Kesha1980]

I rely on what is written in the media. Presented from that perspective.

In principle, I admit your explanation on gas. But the rioters are not visible and, what is most interesting, they are not heard (pogromists-silencers?). Logically, I think that there were no rioters. Approximately - the soldier did not like that he was being filmed - he pointed his weapon at the journalists (by the way, the shot is only heard, but not seen).
To neutralize a jihadist - https://youtu.be/5mOO4wNZJFA. Could there have been casualties? Obviously yes. And also - this is written in the media.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Kesha1980

But the rioters are not visible and, what is most interesting, they are not heard (pogromists-silencers?). Logically, I think that there were no rioters. Approximately - the soldier did not like that he was being filmed - he pointed his weapon at the journalists (by the way, the shot is only heard, but not seen).

Look carefully where the so-called "journalists" are (0:42) but in fact PROVOCATORS, for the sake of a shot they pay children $ 10, and they themselves receive thousands in the media.

[Kesha1980]

I agree. This is logical and obvious. As for Arab journalists - especially. But on

Apparently the "reporters" covered the rioters with themselves.

, I answered accordingly. The sound quality is quite normal. I do not understand how you can "smash" quietly. The exhaust from the thrower is heard (at least a similar sound), but the rioters are not heard. This is not for the sake of argument - this is a statement.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Kesha1980

This is not for the sake of argument - this is a statement.

Everyone can think as he pleases, but the fact of provocation is obvious.

[Siberian54]

And why do you need a chronology? Here is an "amnesty" report that she wrote about the APU and that's it - an "agent of the Kremlin" .. And the chronology, one of Assad's ancestors in the distant fifties, decided to put a hydroelectric power station on the river in the Dutch Heights and start watering their fields from the lake. .Israel did not like it so much that the permanent war has been going on for 70 years and who is to blame for this and why no one remembers right away

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Siberian54

one of the ancestors of Assad in the distant fifties decided to put a hydroelectric power station on the river in the Dutch Heights

In the distant 40s, Assad's ancestor asked the British for protection for the Alawites, so that, according to him, the Arabs would not massacre them, "as they are going to do with the Jews." They were not in power yet.

Quote: Siberian54

from the lake to start watering their fields ..

On the contrary, they wanted to turn off the lake that fed the river, and this, in turn, fed the Jews))

Quote: Siberian54

Israel did not like it so much that the permanent war has been going on for 70 years

Where do you get such nonsense from - with the declaration of independence of the State of Israel, the countries of the League of Arab States declared war on it and sent troops into its territory, cut out Jewish settlements outside the territory allocated to the Israelis by the UN.

Quote: Siberian54

who is to blame for this and why they didn’t immediately agree, no one remembers

By and large, they threw everyone and divided the Middle East into a bunch of incomprehensible states that never existed before. They are also French.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Krasnodar

By and large, they threw everyone and divided the Middle East into a bunch of incomprehensible states that never existed before. They are also French.

And then the Englishwoman spoiled.
Although ... and the Jews, too, must have someone to blame.

[Krasnodar]

Yes, the Jews, just, everything turned out great. Their own state, not without problems, but with a very high standard of living, development, education, a good modern and, most importantly, people's army, etc.
Lebanon was blinded by the French as a country of refuge for Christian Arabs. Excluding the higher rate of population growth among Muslims. As a result - a country after civil wars, located in the economic ass. Syria was blinded after the sharing with the Britons - a patchwork quilt of the Sunni majority, Kurds, Alawites, Shiites, Christians. They tried to rally all this discord with the fascist ideology of Arab social nationalism - it ran right up to the Bashar-Assad privatization and the subsequent Arab spring.
Iraq is the same garbage, only the British messed it up, giving Mesopotamia to a loyal Arab sheikh. The monarchy collapsed there, the Arab socialists (Baathists) who came to power cut the king to pieces, fell into fascism as the glue of the nation, entered into two big wars (Iran-Iraq, the invasion of Kuwait) and lost the third completely.
Jordan is also a sheikh loyal to the British, the territory was given to them, previously promised to the Jews.
As a result, a poor Arab country without oil, rests on the backbone of Circassians, Bedouins and other aliens around the royal dynasty, soon there will be a Palestinian majority (Descendants of Refugees) and waiting for them, God forbid, I'm wrong, levanization.
Egypt - they peacefully overthrew the monarch, letting him fall with grandmas on his own yacht, they tried to stand at the head of the Arab world thanks to the wars with Israel, they pumped themselves, went towards the West, in the end - they are ruled by the army and its nominees. But - the fault of the Britons is not here. The country is very poor, does not use its enormous potential, waiting for a new charismatic leader like Nasser.
Short excursion
Well, and the Palestinians - thrown by everyone, starting with the British, poor fellows, with brains used in a non-creative direction. And they do have brains. But - criminal. ))

[Siberian54]

Alas, the Israeli miracle, the gift of American Jews, is only 10% of the added value in Israel, and the goods delivered to the USA become 6-20% cheaper. So the high standard of living in the promised land is not the talent of those living there, but a freebie from a special trading position

[Krasnodar]

Of course. Only the first trading partner of Israel is the EU
VAT in Israel - 17%
And now, for example, give Ukraine duty-free transportation of goods to the States - will the standard of living there change greatly? No, because Ukraine will not supply science-intensive goods to the United States, for lack of such.

[Revolver]

Quote: Krasnodar

By and large, they threw everyone and divided the Middle East into a bunch of incomprehensible states that never existed before. They are also French.

Wherever the impudent people have ever ruled, and where they left, they left behind a complete mess - and this is putting it mildly, so that the moderation passes.
The only exception is the USA. And even then, they didn’t leave here on their own, but they were thrown out with kicks.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Nagan

The only exception is the USA. And even then, they didn’t leave here on their own, but they were thrown out with kicks.

There are only three countries on the continent - accordingly, there is less mess

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Krasnodar

and dividing the Middle East into a bunch of incomprehensible states that never existed before.

I wonder how they should be divided? To Idumea, Moab, Ammon, etc.? Or do everything the Kingdom of Judah?

[Krasnodar]

Syria, Mesopotamia and Kurdistan, for example. ))

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Siberian54

on the river in the Dutch Heights

Israel does not border the Netherlands.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Kesha1980

I was surprised that this special was not covered in VO.

What for? The Ukrainian theme apparently overrides the rating plan.

[Gunther]

The unsuccessful missile launches of the Islamic Jihad group against Israel are the cause of the death of people in the territory of the Palestinian Authority...

Well, yes, well, yes - again the Semites (Arabs) are to blame, their rockets are of the wrong system, and the anti-Semites are white and fluffy, they are preparing to "learn lessons", shoot down rockets over Gaza in order to ruin peaceful Semites with debris.

[withoutreverse]

These Judas children will run into the full .. time is not on their side ..

[Trapp1st]

These Judas children

They are satanists...

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Trapp1st

They are satanists...

No, reptilians.

[Trapp1st]

No, reptilians. wassat

Don't insult the reptilians like that, they don't deserve it. Natural Satanists, fiend.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Trapp1st

Natural Satanists, fiend.

You are right to be afraid, the time will come - and they will ask you.

[Trapp1st]

and they will ask you.

The questioner will fall off.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: withoutreverse

These Judas children will run into the full ..

Someday, in the next life.

Quote: withoutreverse

time is not on their side.

Just the opposite.

[bobba94]

When 6 villages were shelled in the Kursk, Belgorod and Bryansk regions, serious passions raged in the VO for several days - until the Kremlin wakes up, where retaliatory strikes on decision-making centers, etc. etc. 1100 missiles were fired at Israel and then in the comments they immediately mixed the Makarevich goat, the IDF, Ukrainian training manuals, Donetsk air conditioners .... One gets the impression that all the comments here were written by political officers ....

[Vlodek]

if in the Kursk region. 1100 missiles were fired, the victims would be MUCH more.
the feeling that they are shooting into an uninhabited desert

[bobba94]

In the 15 years since the start of rocket attacks from the Gaza Strip, i.e. since 2006, the Jews have learned to repel these blows. The "Iron Dome" was designed specifically to repel rocket attacks from Gaza ....

[Petr_Koldunov]

To be honest, almost all of their conflicts with their neighbors are usually initiated (or provoked) by Jews first. Starting with the Lebanese war. Bestial treatment of the Arabs in the controlled territories, then some kind of provocation, then the "forced" use of force on the demarcation line ... and then "oh, what scoundrels the Arabs, how dare they attack us ... let's wipe them into mush!"
And time after time, the UN Security Council condemns Israel for its aggressive behavior, and time after time, Israel spit on all these condemnations and does not adjust its behavior in order to please the UN members (which, by the way, we should learn from!).

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

To be honest, almost all of their conflicts with their neighbors are usually initiated (or provoked) by Jews first.

A blatant lie, easily refuted by books on the history of the Arab-Israeli wars.

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

Bestial treatment of Arabs in controlled territories

There is not a single Israeli in Gaza. Or is it a telepathic appeal?
And in what it is expressed, if not a secret?

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

let's wipe them into a mess!

Why hasn't it been erased so far?

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

UN Security Council condemns Israel for its aggressive behavior

Not SB, but GA. In the Security Council, the Yankees veto.
And 90% of these "condemnations" are rotten anti-Semitic hypocrisy.

Quote: Peter_Koldunov

and does not adjust his behavior to please the members of the UN

What for? It's still impossible.

[bobba94]

No need to delve into distant history. It is enough to look at the events that took place relatively recently, namely, the Iran-Iraq war of 1980-1986. More than a million killed on both sides, several million wounded, mutilated, disabled. I gave just one example of hundreds of military conflicts that have occurred over the centuries between the Muslim countries of the Middle East. Jews cannot dream of such results even in the most rosy dream ..... You, my friend, it's time to change the old training manual .... It's funny to read.

[miru mir]

efficiency of the "iron dome" 97%

[And Us Rat]

Quote: bobba94

One gets the impression that all the comments here are written by political officers ....

It’s just that a gang of aged anti-Semites dug in in VO, whose parents apparently were collaborators under the Nazis. And education is, alas, for life. Fortunately, this will not last long, soon they will all die of old age, alcoholism and free medicine, and the atmosphere in the chats will become cleaner.

[razved]

Somewhere it was already like this: "they fired on themselves" ...

[Petr_Koldunov]

Yes, every day the Kyiv authorities, the Anglo-Saxon authorities, then CNN repeat the same mantra about the territories bombed by the Nazis.

[Bronik]

As far as I remember in ancient times, the USSR supported the Arab countries very much. And then, strangely enough, Sadat and Assad's father kicked the Soviet military and civilian specialists. And how the Politburo licked, you know what, from Yasirka Arafat. And what is the output? Pshik, and only. In the Arab countries, then the USSR, and now the Russian-speakers, are treated with contempt. So or not?

[Kesha1980]

Arab countries, then the USSR, and now the Russian-speaking, are treated with contempt. So or not?

Ask in the Arab countries, how can we know? We are not Arabs.

[bobba94]

Stalin very cleverly once said about the superiority of quality over quantity, but Nikita the corn maker simply calculated arithmetically that there were 1,5 million Jews, and tens of millions of Arabs, and began to support the Arabs. Stalin was a smart statesman, and Nikita was a smart-ass dodgy hoho .......l

[Aleks2048]

I am looking at photographs of dense, dilapidated urban development ... I am reading an article

According to the IDF, the militants fired a total of 1100 rockets in the direction of Israel. Of these, about 200 did not fly and fell on the territory of Gaza.

For some reason, I immediately remember Donetsk or the Belgorod region, where, according to reports, clearly less fell. And there is a slight dissonance. How is that? 1100 rockets is that firecrackers? Yes, in cities with a population of over a million, the numbers of those affected by New Year's fireworks are comparable.

The officer said that a total of 27 civilians in the Gaza Strip had died as a result of the fighting over the past couple of days. Of these, 16 civilians lost their lives due to unsuccessful missile launches by militants of the Islamic Jihad group. The Israel Defense Forces are responsible for the deaths of the remaining 11 people.

And the surname of the officer is not Konashenkov by any chance?

[Kronos]

It's just that Israel has excellent air defense.

[Aleks2048]

It's just that Israel has excellent air defense.

Air defense to match the missiles. However, 900 targets will overload and break through any air defense.

[zoland]

Well, they didn’t overload and didn’t break. Here the dome as soon as they did not call names, and the dome and the colander. Only something Shells and Torahs, not like the Kherson and Zaporizhzhya NPP bridges, cannot protect

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alex2048

However, 900 targets will overload and break through any air defense.

This is if at the same time. But this requires a MLRS division. But such a division simply will not be allowed to approach the launch distance. The Air Force will gouge.
One LCD battery can intercept 60 missiles at the same time (80 in the extended version). Usually the city is covered by 2-3 batteries, that is, from 120 to 240 simultaneous interceptions.
It is generally unrealistic to overload the radar, only one EL / M-2084 can track and select 1100 targets simultaneously at ranges up to 500 km, and Israeli missile defense is a single network with astronomical computing power and radar coverage of a couple of thousand km.
The maximum volleys that were in practice did not exceed 100 missiles at the same time, and taking into account the fact that half flies into milk ...
In short, to break through this missile defense, a qualitatively different enemy is needed, but the nuance is that a qualitatively different enemy will receive a qualitatively different rebuff.

[kamakama]

Read the description of Kassam missiles. Basically, yes, firecrackers. A melt of caramel fuel is poured into the drainpipe, 3-4 stabilizers are welded and launched from the railing of the stairs or generally from a pole dug into the ground. The combat part - do not understand from what. Grenades, mines, TNT checkers...

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: kamakama

Read the description of Kassam missiles.

It is not clear what purpose you pursued by writing this information.
Here is the real information.
Kasam up to 18 km destruction from it

Missiles Fage R 3 range 43 km and Fajr 5 75 km from Iran.
They created their copies of Iranian missiles - Sajil missiles up to 55 km, 75M up to 75 km and 80J 80 km, which are widely used against Israel.

Ayash 250 missile, the range of which reaches approximately 150-180 km
The result of these missiles

And now the statistics.
From 5/8 to 8/8, 1100 rockets of various classes were fired across Israel, the most distant ones fell into the sea, near Netanya 110-120 km. 900 rockets flew to the territory of Israel.
The iron dome intercepted 96-97%, there were hits and destruction, but not significant.
0 fatalities
Wounded 47
3 military
2 civil
The rest are injured while running for cover.
And now, you tell me, which city in your country can reflect such a number of missiles and with what system?

[kamakama]

I will not dispute the numbers, I will only say that in the description of the Dome itself there are the following lines "the ballistic computer recognizes the target and its trajectory. When falling in an uninhabited area, the target is not fired." In combination with your own words that a lot of things fell into the sea, it is clear that the guidance systems of these missiles are so-so. Does the concept of "interception" include precisely downing or also selection? This is a significant difference - if all 1100 missiles are aimed and simultaneously fly through the cities - will it cope?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: kamakama

if all 1100 missiles are aimed and simultaneously fly through cities

If my grandmother had beys, she would be a grandfather.
Do you even imagine the scale of this? These are almost 30 Grad installations. And in order to bring this crowd to a firing distance unharmed, you need to neutralize the Air Force, artillery and all types of IDF special forces .... which in itself requires a total war with the enemy, who must be stronger than a whole coalition of Arab countries ... Israel does not have such enemies.
So there is no point in discussing a spherical horse in a vacuum.

[kamakama]

1100 Kassam class missiles (a water pipe 2 meters long and a stick in the ground) - this is only 10 kilometers along the front, if you put it in 10 meters (in principle, you can launch from a shelter). And if there are 5 rows in a line with a distance of 50 meters between positions - this is an area of ​​\u250b\u1000babout XNUMX by XNUMX meters, it can be divided into several smaller positions. The example is spherical in vacuum, but nonetheless. With a mass launch in one direction, anti-missiles will simply run out. After all, the ammunition is finite

[And Us Rat]

Quote: kamakama

And if there are 5 rows in a line with a distance of 50 meters between positions, this is an area of ​​\u250b\u1000babout XNUMX by XNUMX meters

And Israel, in your deaf-blind-mute? And the Mossad amateur club?
Do you really think that the militants are not trying to organize massive volleys?

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: kamakama

When falling in an uninhabited area, the target is not fired."

Yes you are right.

Quote: kamakama

it is clear that the guidance systems of these missiles are so-so.

There is no guidance system, there is a direction and where it will fly.

Quote: kamakama

Does the concept of "interception" include precisely downing or also selection?

Interception, this is only what could fall and cause property damage or death, if the rocket should fall into an empty place, it is not destroyed.

Quote: kamakama

This is a significant difference - if all 1100 missiles are aimed and simultaneously fly through the cities - will it cope?

1100 rockets cannot fly at the same time. no country has so many launchers.
In 2009, before the Iron Dome appeared, 571 rockets were fired at Israel, of which 205 hit the target and caused damage and death, which is 36%
In this conflict, about 900 were fired at Israel (200 fell on their territory), 873 were shot down.
It is designed specifically for such missiles, and after improvements in 2021, it intercepts cruise missiles and UAVs.
In 2023, the "Iron Beam" will come to the rescue

An Iron Beam laser air defense system intercepts a target over southern Israel, March 2022 (Ministry of Defense)
Why are you focusing ONLY on the "Iron Dome"
Israel has provided itself with protection against all types of missiles.
The David's Sling is designed to intercept the latest generation of tactical ballistic missiles at low altitude, such as the Iskander and Chinese DF-15s.
Arrow 2 to help David's Sling.
Arrow 3 MBL in near space, altitude 100 km, range 2,500 km.
Arrow 4 MBL+ hypersonic missiles (under testing)

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Alex2048

1100 rockets is that firecrackers?

For AOI missile defense today - yes.

[vova1910]

Drop

[Two]

So yes! I once wrote that even such a perfect system for intercepting ballistic targets as "Kipat barzel" will surely choke during salvo launches, even if they are pipe, powder rockets ...

[AUL]

However, it did not choke! My condolences...

[Two]

To date, with an average density of fire, the efficiency has not exceeded 84%! I'm sorry ... There is no information on countering salvo launches.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Dos

There is no information on countering salvo launches.

Google banned you? There are tons of videos of mass intercepts. I posted one of them in this thread.

[Two]

It’s just that a classmate has been working as an expert at Yad Vashem for more than 23 years, and his son serves as an officer in the Kipat Barzelya camera training center. So I don’t need videos! He commissioned these batteries, participated in their modernization and has awards. So sorry, but "Google" does not even know a tenth (of the available!) What he knows.

[And Us Rat]

And we have to take your word for it?
Especially the part where the IDF officer, like a balabolka, whistles operational information to the whole world? And not yet pressed against the soldiers of the IDF SB?
You are a dreamer though.

[Two]

It’s somehow purely violet for me to your faith. In Israel, they don’t make secrets from the work of the complex, but on the contrary, they stick it out and promote it everywhere and always. Every schoolboy is confident in his own safety and the care of the government! the bearer of state secrets (Chubais, for example!) is easily released across the cordon.

[miru mir]

Quote: bobba94

One gets the impression that all the comments here are written by political officers ....

[igork735]

Quote: ASAD

Do you think that a "rocket" made of shit and sticks cannot fall ahead of time?

How to talk about the effectiveness of the dome, these are rockets. How about the causes of the death of the Palestinians, they are made of shit and sticks.

[And Us Rat]

The Israeli military launched Operation Dawn in the Palestinian Authority this Friday. They are inflicting intense strikes on targets in the Gaza Strip.

The operation ended yesterday. Who wrote this article? Special correspondent from Estonia?