"Counterattack on Kherson". Bite your own tail

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Apparently, in the near future we will see another episode of the series, which cannot be turned off by pressing the button on the TV. After the series "evacuation from Azovstal", "counteroffensive near Kharkov", "exhaustion in Severodonetsk" and the short film "ghost of Kyiv", we have to contemplate, perhaps, the most scandalous series called "counteroffensive on Kherson". The plot is poorly visible, and the setting is so-so, but the marketing is at the highest level.

Why such sacrifices?


The Ukrainian Armed Forces set the obvious tasks of the “Kherson counteroffensive” to pull back part of the NVO forces from the Donbass and slow down the advance of the allied forces, as well as redirect all the attention of the Ukrainian and world audience from the inevitable defeat in Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and Avdiivka. Here, as they say, even a child understands everything. Who in the West is now talking about the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Lisichansk / Severodonetsk / Rubizhne triangle, the loss of the Uglegorsk thermal power plant, the breakthrough of the allied forces near Donetsk, when it is possible to show holes in the Antonovsky bridge around the clock?



That is, the “counteroffensive” on Kherson should become a mirror image of the Slavic-Kramatorsk operation, which will mean the loss of Donbass for Kyiv. With this they will try to cover up their defeat in the DPR. And here it is not even the very fact of success in the form of the capture of Kherson that is important, but it is enough just to rive the attention of the world community to another region. And, as you know, the Western media and social networks have long learned to make a big information wave out of the tiny successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the spirit of “Russia is losing the war.” This is done due to the almost complete information blockade of Russian successes in capturing large cities with a total replication of personnel with each lined Russian a tank.

Against this background, the only practical goal that the Nazi regime in Kyiv can achieve with its “counteroffensive” is to disrupt the announced referendum. The referendum, apparently, was supposed to take place after the complete liberation of Donbass in early autumn. But if the city of Kherson will be under constant artillery fire, then the referendum will, of course, have to be postponed before Ukrainian troops are even thrown out of Nikolaev.

But there are pluses in this "counteroffensive". Finally, kindergartens and schools in Krivoy Rog and Nikolaev will be empty. All those who like to sleep on cribs in an embrace with a portrait of Zelensky and juggle with grenades will still come out under a flurry of Russian aviation and artillery.

Counterattack backwards


Now about the very nature of the upcoming escalation in the Kherson region. The most obvious actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are the chaotic massive shelling of Kherson by analogy with Donetsk. That is, realizing that Donetsk will soon be out of reach, the West will need a new goal that provokes the need to intensify hostilities. Thus, the West is insured in case someone in Kyiv or Moscow is suddenly tempted to sit down at the negotiating table after the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the DPR. Representatives of the Ukrainian regime directly put pressure on the residents of Kherson to leave the city. This only confirms the thesis about the upcoming massive artillery strikes on Kherson itself (and not just on the bridge and Chernobaevka).

By the way, about Chernobaevka (more precisely, about Kherson airport). Of course, it was not worth trying to form a helicopter base at the beginning of the NWO practically on the front line. This is a command error. However, Ukraine continues to strike at the airport, Russian air defense continues to intercept MLRS shells. Thus, it is clear that there are still important Russian military installations there. This confirms that our armed forces are ready to continue to remain in the area targeted by the enemy, but will not place their main military facilities within the boundaries of Kherson, as is happening in Nikolaev. The same is confirmed by the strike of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Melitopol airport, where, obviously, the main forces were stationed, and not in Melitopol itself.


But back to Kherson. The Ukrainian army will not be able to concentrate and generally find a sufficient amount of artillery and armored vehicles with active operations in other directions. It remains, first of all, the infantry. A lot of infantry of varying degrees of combat training. Small well-trained enemy mobile groups, hung with anti-tank systems like Christmas trees, will not be able to make a big breakthrough and move the front. The same is with large groups of enemy manpower, thrown in a chaotic manner under the cover of a small amount of armored vehicles.

As for artillery, if the Armed Forces of Ukraine had the opportunity to find enough artillery to break the Russian dominance in this type of weaponry, they would have done it in the Donbas long ago. Nothing like what Russia has concentrated in the direction of Pesok and Avdiivka, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be able to assemble at any point in Ukraine. Russia destroys as much, if not more, Ukrainian weaponshow much comes in daily from NATO countries. Therefore, the number of heavy weapons in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is slowly but surely decreasing, given the remnants of Soviet equipment, of course. The phrase “NATO is dragging out the agony of the Armed Forces of Ukraine” is very well expressed in the numbers of delivered and destroyed armored vehicles.

Ingulets


You need to understand that there are no water barriers directly between Kherson and Nikolaev along the front line up to Snigirevka. The Ingulets River, which today is the front line in many areas, flows into the Dnieper above the city of Kherson. Its width in the south of the Kherson region is about 100 meters, in the north - 30-50. That is, this river is an obstacle of the same complexity as the Seversky Donets. For the Russian troops, this is a difficult task, taking into account Western reconnaissance and Western aiming. For the Ukrainians, this is simply an impossible task if we are talking about the transfer of large formations, and not about the DRG.


In the future, we will also have to face water barriers. If we are looking ahead, then on the way to Odessa we will have to overcome the Southern Bug and Tiligul. Yes, and Odessa itself is mostly covered by two estuaries. To get to its port, you will have to push through a neck between the estuaries and the sea, a little more than 1,5 km wide, or enter from the side of Transnistria. Therefore, pontoon bridges will come in handy for our troops even after the elimination of threats to Kherson crossings. True, in the case of Odessa, there is the possibility of large naval and air landing operations south of the city, which will facilitate the task of encirclement.

Krivoy Rog


In addition to the obvious western direction, there is also a northern one (relative to Kherson) - this is Krivoy Rog and Nikopol. The Armed Forces of Ukraine may try to advance here, relying on these cities, but the distance from them to the front line is greater than from Nikolaev to the front near Kherson. There are no water barriers here, and in fact there is a fairly wide bridgehead for both sides, 40 km wide. The only point for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to attack here is the capture of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station. But before it from the front line, you still have to go as much as 80 km. For Russian troops, the offensive on Krivoy Rog and Nikolaev will open the way to central Ukraine. Without the capture of Krivoy Rog, the Zaporozhye and Dnepropetrovsk directions are practically meaningless, since the cities are separated by the Dnieper River.


Ukrainian rear


The very ability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to transfer and accumulate large forces indicates an insufficient number of remote pinpoint strikes. Yes, the missiles did not run out, as they wanted in Ukraine. But they are still few. Therefore, the main opportunity for the RF Armed Forces to impede the movements of the Ukrainian army and radically cut off the supply of weapons from the West is the access to medium and high altitudes of Russian aviation behind enemy lines. And for this, it will be necessary to increase work on the detection and destruction of "sleeping" medium and long-range air defense systems, intensifying reconnaissance, and throwing false targets at the enemy.

As for the work of Russian aviation against the advancing troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, sleeping air defenses are good as long as they have somewhere to hide. It is one thing to drive the S-300 to some pig farm and wait for a signal from NATO colleagues, and it is quite another to continuously cover the advancing orders in an open field by deploying a layered air defense system. Therefore, it is unlikely that the Russian front-line aviation will have serious obstacles to unwind the Ukrainian troops that have entered the open spaces on the march between Nikolaev and Kherson.

Crimea


As for the direct military threats to Crimea in the form of an offensive by Ukrainian troops, the advances on the right bank of the Dnieper and even the loss of Kherson do not open the way to Crimea for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. There are still the same few bridges that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be able to cross. Advancing through Melitopol is more promising, but no less pointless. From the current front line near Kherson to Kherson itself, the Armed Forces of Ukraine need to go about 20 km, from Nikolaev - 50 km before the Armed Forces of Ukraine could run into the Dnieper. On the left bank, it is about 200 km from the line Kamenskoye - Orekhov - Gulyaipole and the only settlement for which the Armed Forces of Ukraine could cling is Melitopol. What can we say about the Sivash and the Isthmus of Perekop, which they will never pass, even if they were already standing in front of them.

And in general, any operations against Crimea without dominance at sea and in the air are meaningless. If the Armed Forces of Ukraine jeopardize the loss of Crimea, then this would cause a total mobilization of society in Russia and, above all, in Crimea itself. But even during the time of the Maidan, Crimea was able to gather almost as many people into the militia as the “self-defense of the Maidan” recruited from all over Ukraine. In addition, any threat of losing a part of Russian territory may become a justified reason for the use of tactical nuclear weapons.

decision centers


This "counter-offensive", if it does take place, will serve as a reminder to those who have long threatened to strike at the centers of decision-making. Why do we need the Ukrainian regime at all? To exchange prisoners? Only because of the fear that he will find a replacement in the West? So let them search! Why did we save it by withdrawing troops from Kyiv? Why was not a single missile strike or artillery strike on the government quarter carried out if the artillery was 20–25 km away? Why do Western officials continue to go on excursions there? Why did the attacks on the objects of Nazi propaganda stop, and why does the Ukrainian TV continue to nazify the population, talk about the need to kill Russian children and drive “cannon fodder” to the front?

If it was publicly stated that there would be strikes on decision-making centers, then they should be. Otherwise, these warnings will be invalidated. If we admit that the Kyiv regime deceived us in Istanbul, then this is only an additional reason to deal with it in the same way as with any fortified area of ​​the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front. It is high time to deprive the Western audience of the opportunity to contemplate the ridiculous photo sessions of the guarantor of the Ukrainian constitution torn by the West. Although, perhaps, one should not refuse him the last photo session during the signing of the surrender, if one takes place.

We can assume that red lines have long been drawn along the closed line for the West. We can even imagine that these are deliveries of ATACMS, modern fighters and long-range air defense / missile defense systems, as well as strikes on the territory of Crimea and large Russian cities. However, politics always involves playing on the edge of these red lines. And this means that trial attempts to cross the red line will occur constantly. And if there is no response in full force, then it will be perceived there as the flexibility of our red lines.
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  1. +5
    8 August 2022 11: 12
    There will be no counteroffensive. Basically, the West relies on the economic exhaustion of Russia and the beginning of discontent within the country. The fact that Ukraine will not be able to win by military means is obvious to everyone, their task is to conduct hostilities as long as possible. And this is a positional trench warfare. They will go on a counteroffensive, lose more equipment in a day than in a month on the defensive.
    1. +4
      8 August 2022 11: 28
      To the author, just one question - can you guarantee that there will be no next gesture of goodwill, and our troops will not leave the Kherson region, Zaporozhye, to please the Kremlin partners? ??
      1. +10
        8 August 2022 11: 44
        But I don’t think anymore. But I’m just sure that there won’t be such a crap (to put it mildly, because they will be banned)
        1. AAK
          +2
          8 August 2022 17: 44
          Taking into account everything that happened in six months as a result of the "goodwill gestures" of our leadership in Ukraine, one cannot be sure of anything, to our deep regret ... imagine the situation, the dill asked for peace and agreed to two "de ...", but only under the guarantees of "partners", with the preservation of territorial integrity except for the Donbass... and you, colleagues, guarantee that Moscow will not return everything liberated, watered with the blood of our military and will not give a damn about the aspirations of many Ukrainians about referendums and transition to Russia?
          Unfortunately, I do not believe in such a guarantee ....
      2. -1
        8 August 2022 12: 09
        Maybe. You really don't talk nonsense!!! This is an overland route from the Crimea.
    2. +11
      8 August 2022 11: 40
      Since it is obvious that the goal of any gestures of the ukrovermacht is not to achieve military results, but a purely media picture, no matter how dirty tricks are thought up .. After all, then - the most successful move is an attempt to attack, say, Voronezh and Belgorod .. Like - transferring the war to the territory of the "aggressor" .. Not - of course they will be stuffed in the face, but it will be one hell of an unpleasant thing ..
    3. +2
      8 August 2022 12: 46
      A counteroffensive will be necessary. Enough Serpentine to remember ..
  2. +4
    8 August 2022 11: 14
    Today I "was" in Nikolaev, they have a new topic. Cut off the supply lines of our group with chimeras and wait for us to "surrender".
    1. +1
      8 August 2022 11: 46
      Already good! So "let's get to the Urals!" no longer die. And then, you know, the evacuation of industry beyond the Urals is such a daunting task. wassat
      1. 0
        8 August 2022 11: 52
        What kind of industry? Ukrainian? Do they still have industry? wassat
        1. -1
          8 August 2022 12: 00
          Ze, apart from a couple of T-shirts and loans, has little left.
          1. 0
            8 August 2022 12: 03
            we can dress up at the logging site.
            1. -2
              8 August 2022 12: 25
              Only a "wooden mac" suits him. Ze, by the way, said that holding referendums in the liberated territories is automatically a refusal to negotiate with Russia. "Keep me seven, otherwise I can't vouch for myself!"
              Regarding the "great counteroffensive". The redeployment of remote weapons for the sake of "we need at least a small victory" has already resulted in the lost Sands. Now they will move "backward" the redeployed artillery - we will begin to work hard in the Nikolaev direction. Our initiative is chess/fork.
              1. +1
                8 August 2022 12: 27
                At the informant, a credit photo, an American "port" lies beautifully.
          2. 0
            8 August 2022 12: 41
            Ze, apart from a couple of T-shirts and loans, has little left.

            Credits are not on him, but he will buy new T-shirts after signing the surrender, if he lives.
            1. -1
              8 August 2022 12: 46
              The consent of signing the surrender and staying alive are diametrically opposed probabilities. "Until the last Ukrainian" - the script is simple and does not involve improvisation.
          3. -2
            8 August 2022 14: 53
            Quote: Kesha1980
            Ze, apart from a couple of T-shirts and loans, has little left.

            Believe me, during this time, in addition to the existing billion, he made at least three new ones. This is what I modestly assumed.
            1. -1
              8 August 2022 15: 21
              What's the point? Wring out. Or the heirs will "donate". So he pisses himself off and puts his people in the ground only out of the understanding "there is no turning back." I'm even sure that he deeply regrets his previous life, but speedway is a dangerous thing.
              1. 0
                8 August 2022 15: 28
                Quote: Kesha1980
                I'm even sure that he is bitterly sorry for his previous life, but speedway is a dangerous thing.

                I think he is very sorry. After all, it was then that one could say that life was a success!
  3. +1
    8 August 2022 11: 22
    Why do we need the Ukrainian regime at all? To exchange prisoners?
    "Violinist, not needed" (c)
  4. 0
    8 August 2022 11: 22
    Let them advance, ours have already been waiting, all eyes have been overlooked, the shells have been rubbed five times. wassat
  5. -2
    8 August 2022 11: 24
    That is, the “counteroffensive” on Kherson should become a mirror image of the Slavic-Kramatorsk operation, which will mean the loss of Donbass for Kyiv.

    The United States and the West are supplying weapons to Ukraine, not for it to defend itself, but to advance. Ukraine has only one thing - a counteroffensive, in which there are two options, the first is "overcome", the second is "zrada", but they will announce - "NATO's fault, they did not supply enough weapons."
  6. +3
    8 August 2022 11: 53
    There will be an attempt to portray a counteroffensive .... A bunch of heroes will be put under imitation .... If there is no progress, no gestures, the West will remove from allowance. ... A win-win option, if there is "success", give more weapons and even then we ...., it won't burn out, it doesn't matter either, we kind of tried, but few weapons were delivered, so give even more .. .There is only one result - give more weapons ...
  7. +4
    8 August 2022 11: 53
    Such an active participation of the United States in Ukraine is also explained by the presence of property, American property. Little has been written about this. Three companies own agricultural areas that exceed such areas in Italy. You can read about this in the newspaper "Tomorrow" by V. Katasonov. No information war no. Our entire field is on vacation.
  8. 0
    8 August 2022 11: 57
    It seems to me that the second stage of the special operation should have been carried out on the right bank of the Dnieper, to develop a bridgehead towards Odessa, and not in the Donbass.
  9. +6
    8 August 2022 12: 19
    The most obvious actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are the chaotic massive shelling of Kherson by analogy with Donetsk.

    Which city will be the last to be liberated and will be subjected to shelling. The only way out is to release only up to the Polish border.
  10. +4
    8 August 2022 12: 56
    Now it is extremely clear that the Ukraine project, which is permanently toxic to Russia, must be completely closed. Definitively and irrevocably, once and for all.
  11. 0
    8 August 2022 13: 49
    If it was publicly stated that there would be strikes on decision-making centers, then they should be.
    I completely agree. But there is one problem: the decision-making centers are in Washington, London and Brussels. And the blows must be delivered precisely on them.
    In general, if a statement has been made, then it must be implemented. Otherwise, the one who made this statement exposes himself as a liar. And I personally cannot believe in such a person in the future: whoever deceived once, will deceive in the future.
    1. 0
      10 August 2022 21: 42
      And if there is no one to execute decisions from the USA and others, how then? They will gnaw and capitulate.
  12. +3
    8 August 2022 23: 52
    In Kherson, the most carbon monoxide parade was held on the Day of the Navy

    The participants wanted to go in balaclavas, but then they plucked up the courage and limited themselves to sunglasses bully laughing


  13. 0
    9 August 2022 04: 05
    Since the "centers of acceptance" are located across the ocean, everything is possible. And even without any advances and retreats.

    For example, a number of massive attacks by the Armed Forces of Ukraine on nuclear power plants in Ukraine. They are complete and utter scumbags. And then the apocalypse is guaranteed not only for us, but also for Western Europe. Very simple, fast, cheap and cheerful. We are on the move....

    The US will get through this somehow. Then they will be annoyed that they "didn't notice" .....
  14. +2
    9 August 2022 04: 16
    Quote: Grandfather is an amateur

    In general, if a statement has been made, then it should be implemented. Otherwise, the one who made this statement exposes himself as a liar. .

    Exposes... Well, what's next? He himself is a liar, and everyone else .... eklmn ... lowered, who in any case will wipe themselves off and will sit and keep quiet.

    Yeltsin, for example, generally presented himself as a traitor and a madman who ruined the country, and that's okay. For him. Although in March 1996 even the State Duma officially declared him a traitor by its resolution. Not a liar.

    So what? The sky did not fall to earth. They only shouted louder in the elections: "And for whom else?" .....
  15. +1
    9 August 2022 11: 11
    If there was no counter-offensive, it was because they discovered that Russia was going to defend Kherson decisively, and because she had transferred enough troops to defend it. Russia needs more infantry, this need is urgent and has been pointed out for a long time. He needs enough troops to defend Kherson and storm Odessa and continue the attack on Dombass. Bring in the infantry proposed by the Korean president, the Libyans, the Syrians, while the Russian volunteer battalions are being formed. need more infantry
  16. +1
    10 August 2022 09: 08
    Banderonat Vaiska on the territory of Ukraine will be disposed of!
  17. +1
    10 August 2022 22: 55
    Of course, if the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation acted as it is supposed to in the conditions of war, then the counter-offensive of the Wehrmacht's coming out would not have a single chance. BUT! In conditions when our aviation simply DOES NOT FLY beyond the front line, because the loss of even a few aircraft is unacceptable losses, it is simply naive to hope that our Air Force will roll the counterattacking group into asphalt. Consequently, as in the Donbass, the main burden will have to be borne by the ground forces. And here there are serious fears that the hyped battalion tactical groups, stretched out on the front from 5 to 10 km, will hold out if at least two mechanized brigades with a couple of hundred Polish T-5s strike at this 10-72 km section of the front.
    I would not be so confident that this blow could be easily repelled.
    At the same time, from a military-strategic point of view, an offensive on the right bank of the Dnieper is unpromising. A blow along the left bank of the Dnieper would have been much more dangerous. With its success, our grouping on the right bank is surrounded. It will take the removal of all troops from the Donbass and their throw to the Dnieper in order to break through the encirclement. Naturally, the Wehrmacht's coming out will not have the strength to repel this offensive. BUT! Deblockade, restoration of communications will take from 3 weeks to a month. And all this time in the Donbass, the offensive of our troops will be stopped. Because there are no other reserves, except to throw troops from one sector of the front to another.
    And it would also be very interesting to see how the jingoists would explain the local failures of our troops. How they would have played out, proving that even if the temporary encirclement of our group on the right bank of the Dnieper is part of some brilliant plan.
    Although we do not need any failures. Let the Wehrmacht's coming out have solid "zrada".

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