We will win and it's not even discussed

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We will win and it's not even discussed

Today, on my way to meet my friends, I accidentally read an announcement in a trolleybus: “We invite those who are not indifferent to the fate of Donbass to join the nominal battalion – the Om medical company. Further telephones for communication. The usual such announcement is like "I rent a room ...". Doctors, I did not specify who, are gathering their team to work in the Donbass... And, I'm sure, they will soon.

Not because I have a lot of patriotic people in my region. Not even because the volunteers will be paid some money, perhaps more than in our hospitals and clinics. And certainly not because Siberians simply cannot live without war. They go because they have to. That's what your heart needs. This is how the Donbass needs it. That's what Russia needs. So it is necessary to be, and not to exist ...



Those who really want to save the wounded and sick will leave everything and go to the Donbass. In war, the very word "medic" changes its meaning. For many, the hands of a doctor, sister, or nurse become the hands of God... Just like in the Patriotic War, nurses pull out the wounded under enemy fire, surgeons perform impossible operations and miraculously save the wounded...

But the most important thing is that those who are fighting now, and those who will arrive soon, and those who remain at home in order to work so that the patients do not notice the decrease in the number of doctors and nurses, are confident in our victory. Our common victory over Ukrainian fascism. We are sure that the citizens of Ukraine will be able to throw off the veil from their eyes and see what abyss the Zelensky government is pushing them into. Can see...

I do not know the exact number of countrymen who are now in battle. I saw fresh graves in our memorial cemetery. I talked with an employee of one of the military registration and enlistment offices, who rather sharply, like a soldier, cursed volunteers who hide their sores in order to undergo a medical examination.

For some reason, I did not see those who would not be sure of our victory. Didn't see it at all. Although I think that there are such people, they just huddled in the cracks so as not to fall under the punishing hand of the people. Siberians are a simple people, and reproaches are sometimes accompanied by a decent slap in the face...

Why should we fight?


Those readers who have followed international relations for quite a long time understood perfectly well that our ties with the West, and especially with the United States, have been steadily deteriorating in recent decades as Russia has been reborn. After almost every meeting, every summit, political scientists and experts talked about the red line, after which - the war.

But time passed, and the corners somehow smoothed out externally, but grew like a snowball internally. It became clear that the West does not need a strong Russia, and "progressive humanity" will do anything to stop our revival. The West prepared exactly the same fate for other countries that tried to break out from under the dictatorship and become prosperous.

In the 90s of the last century, after the collapse of the USSR, Western countries experienced euphoria. In every sense of the word. And political, and military, and economic. We remember what the republics of the former Soviet Union turned into at that time.

We remember our own poverty, Yeltsin's "God bless America", the appeals of our foreign minister with the question of what kind of foreign policy we should have. It's sickening to remember the state of the army. The mighty state was sold for a penny and systematically destroyed. Scientists, engineers, teachers, doctors, officers were turned into traders in Chinese consumer goods.

But what happened happened. The almost killed and practically bled country suddenly began to revive. People suddenly remembered their education and stopped “charging creams”, as the main “battery” Alan Chumak used to say, through the TV. Businessmen suddenly realized that they were citizens of Russia, and not citizens of the world, as was fashionable then.

But what about the West? The West ate sweetly, slept softly, and had fun using the labor force from the East. But at the same time, the West did not solve its own problems. Even from here it was clear how the collapse was beginning. The political elites became more and more separated from the common people.

This is what caused the numerous protests of citizens of European countries against the decisions of their governments. This is what caused the speeches of the Americans. Many then were surprised at the sudden activity of the people. The political elite did not want to solve problems, and the people did not want to worsen their own lives.

In such a situation, there is a repeatedly proven solution - an external enemy! And the most suitable candidate for this “position” is us. The myth of the country-gas station lives and thrives. Our traitors talk about the fact that the people, if there is help from the West, will rise up against the existing government, and other tales for which they are fed.

Well, Ukraine ...

It just needs a quote from Arestovich-2017. A well-known interview with Ukrlife.tv, in which an expert and presidential adviser characterizes the Ukrainian people and talks about the attitude of the Kyiv authorities towards these people:

“The Ukrainian government despises the Ukrainian people, I assure you. Nobody considers them to be people and has every reason for that, except for one thing, that they are still people. The Ukrainian people, activists, public figures, all these businessmen, all this seething of patriots - they are stupid, inept, brainless, emotional, controlled, poor in spirit. In this country, normal people can be counted on the fingers of two hands, all the rest are uneducated, stupid, and thank God that these people have no power. If the people come to power, I will flee this country.”

This is not the opinion of Arestovich personally. It only relays the opinion of Western politicians. An opinion that really influenced the decision to use Ukraine as a place of confrontation between Russia and the West. Thus, the main reason for the start of the military confrontation is not Ukraine and the Ukrainian regime. Alas, Ukrainians are just cannon fodder. Consumable.

And do not think that there, in Ukraine, they do not understand this. No wonder we are seeing protests in the western part of the country against sending men to war. To fight for the preservation of the power of the political elites of the West? Dismiss me.

But there is the east of Ukraine. Russian-speaking, with the remnants of the Russian mentality, for which one principle applies. The enemy has come to my land, which means that I must defend it. If you ask a Ukrainian soldier today what he sheds blood for, the answer will be just that. No one will say that he is fighting for Zelensky and his clique.

By the way, this is the answer to another question. The question of the supply of weapons to Ukraine. The West is well aware of the risks of a direct conflict with Russia. Therefore, it does not spare even its own armies, removing heavy equipment from service and weaponpushing their own boundaries.
In one of the interviews, President Putin expressed a very serious thesis that the stakes are not equal in the confrontation with the West. The very existence of Russia as a state is at stake! Western countries, on the other hand, will live quite well without the leadership of the US militarists. Everyone understands this very well.

Win or die?


That is the question today. I am often asked if there was an alternative to SVO? Alas, in my opinion, it was not. I agree with the official explanation for the start of the operation. Kyiv really prepared a meat grinder in the Donbass. Yes, and the possibility of the participation of the Russian army, judging by the fortified areas created, calculated.

But there are deeper reasons for the onset of SVO. Remember Putin's words that if a fight is inevitable, you have to hit first? It seems to me that the option of starting a CBO is exactly the case. The West, even before the start of the operation, pumped up Ukraine with weapons and equipment. Instructors from the NATO armies began to be constantly present in the units and divisions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard. And it was not just done.

The West can go to such huge expenses only when the decision to use this equipment and weapons has already been made. In this alignment of forces, as Marshal Zhukov once did in the Great Patriotic War, a preemptive strike is needed. Attack on enemy units already prepared for the offensive.

NWO really came as a surprise to the West. And broke many of the developed plans. The initiative "floated" from the hands of the West into the hands of Moscow. With the beginning of the NWO, it was Moscow that began to dictate its terms to the West. True, we had a serious miscalculation. I mean the negotiations in Turkey, where we once again believed the West and miscalculated.

The outcome of the military confrontation in Ukraine is already clear. Clear for everyone. Even if the resistance continues for some time, the Ukrainian army is not ready to conduct a database in the fall and winter. And no one prepared her for this. Without the CBO, everything should have been finished pretty quickly. Donbass was supposed to be cleared in a month and a half.

The West has moved to a new strategy towards Russia. Now we are being made into a pariah country. A country with which no one will have anything to do with and whose lot is quiet decay within its own borders. But I have a question about how we were treated before the start of the NWO? How many times has Minister Lavrov spoken about worsening relations with the US and the EU? How many times have we simply been ignored in the West?

Did we have options to improve the situation, while not going into the service of the same US and EU? There were no such options. But here another question arises. Do we need such options? Do we need such a West? As for me, let them continue to “thrive” there without us. How this will happen, you can see today. In the same way, you can see our "impoverishment and decay."

President Putin and his team are doing the right thing when they actively work with those countries that are not of interest to the West. We see how rapidly the scope of Russia's contacts in the world is expanding. In this case, the reverse process also occurs. The sphere of contacts of the West is shrinking. Unipolarity turns into multipolarity.

The behavior of our cultural elite is very indicative in this regard. Do you remember how together our parody artists fled to the West after the start of the SVO? How much crap then they poured on their homeland. How much slop was then poured on us, on the people of Russia. And what is the result? How many of these "golden men" turned on the back. Suddenly they realized that they were Russians.

It turned out that for the West they are nobody and they have no name. Even well-known and once respected artists in Russia cannot find themselves in the Western world. They are unhappy, they are squeezed out by Western propaganda, they are not in demand. You sometimes read interviews of some of these traitors and you are amazed at their arrogance and the hope that they will be forgiven. And, alas, we forgive some, which sometimes just infuriates.

Everything will end or will continue


Readers are accustomed to the fact that the material should end with some conclusions. In this case, there will be no output. The situation is still in limbo. We win, but we didn't win. The confrontation continues. SVO continues. People keep dying. The economy is in convulsions, both here and in the West.

I'll start with Ukraine. The problem of Ukraine is the problem of Ukrainianness as such. Thousands of times we hear the thesis that nationalists seized power in Ukraine. But in personal conversations with ordinary Ukrainians, there is some sense of inconsistency with this conclusion. They perceive their nationality as a counterbalance to Russians. And even those who quite recently were Soviet people.

I don't know how to solve this problem, how to convince Ukrainians that we are not encroaching on their identity, on the existence of their nation. It is impossible to force a person to change his principles. You can force yourself to call yourself Russian, German, American, but the person will remain a Ukrainian inside. Perhaps we should remember our recent Soviet history unity of peoples.

About the multipolar world. The first part of the verse from the anthem of the USSR until 1944 was performed. We have destroyed the world where everything is decided by one state.

"The whole world of violence we will destroy
To the ground, and then ... "


There is no way back. We must "finish the verse." This is the only way we can save this world at all, save the planet.

We are ours, we will build a new world -
Who was nothing, he will become everything "...


West? I repeat, in the form in which the West exists today, we are not interested in it. It is not profitable for us to re-educate or influence Western society in any other way. We are creating a new center of power. And until this new center is fully formed, we can afford to live without the West.

And we must win ... For the sake of the future, for the sake of our children and grandchildren ...
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  1. +39
    8 August 2022 16: 08
    It depends on what the author means by victory. The liberation of the LPR and the DPR and then Minsk - 3. This is not a victory.
    1. GIS
      +5
      8 August 2022 16: 18
      So I realized that's not what he means.
      where we once again believed the West and miscalculated.
    2. +17
      8 August 2022 16: 33
      Victory must be framed by an act of unconditional surrender of the remnants of the outskirts!
      1. +6
        8 August 2022 16: 38
        Victory must be framed by an act of unconditional surrender of the remnants of the outskirts!

        Can we do without leftovers?
        1. -2
          9 August 2022 09: 43
          Why do we need Lviv and Ternopil? The people there are not ours, they hate us earnestly and on purpose, let them live as they want, only without weapons and without foreign troops on the territory.
      2. -5
        8 August 2022 17: 20
        Excuse me, but call Ukraine, as it should be. And then you know, we are carrying out denazification, but we don’t even count them for the state. It just reeks of double standards to me.
        1. +2
          9 August 2022 05: 11
          Correctly called "the territory of the former Ukraine." And, yes, we do not consider it a state. You call it whatever you want, but, as I understand it, you are already carrying out denazification. And we are still at the stage of "demilitarization" - that is, we are just proving that the territory of the former Ukraine does not have the right to armed forces.
        2. -1
          9 August 2022 12: 24
          Okay, we're sorry. So be it.
    3. +16
      8 August 2022 16: 51
      In 2014, there was no leader in Russia who would send the Yanuka and the United States with Europe into three letters, and did not suppress the Maidan by force! Then we could take everything with small losses! Now we are reaping the fruits of that toothless foreign policy! And, Taking into account the "gestures of good will," we ourselves could not really draw conclusions from our political jambs.
      1. -4
        8 August 2022 18: 11
        Quote: Thrifty
        In 2014, there was no leader in Russia who would send the Yanuka and the United States with Europe into three letters, and did not suppress the Maidan by force!

        What pretext would you find for our troops to enter Ukraine? It is, as it were, sovereign and many of the Ukrainians supported the coup. I'm just sure that this would not have gone like clockwork, as you think.
        1. +20
          8 August 2022 19: 50
          Perhaps in 2014, you were small or you were not interested in politics at that time, but I think most of the comrades remember that then the legitimately elected President of Ukraine Yanukovych requested help (troops) .. There is no better and more legitimate reason, and will not be now ..
          1. -5
            8 August 2022 21: 03
            Quote: Level 2 Advisor
            Perhaps in 2014, you were small or you were not interested in politics then

            Possibly. Well, we would have helped Yanukovych, who had done his best and fled to Russia, who wanted to stay in power at our expense. What next?
        2. +9
          8 August 2022 19: 57
          Quote: Edik
          Quote: Thrifty
          In 2014, there was no leader in Russia who would send the Yanuka and the United States with Europe into three letters, and did not suppress the Maidan by force!

          What pretext would you find for our troops to enter Ukraine? It is, as it were, sovereign and many of the Ukrainians supported the coup. I'm just sure that this would not have gone like clockwork, as you think.

          May 2, 2014 In your opinion, an insufficient reason?
    4. +4
      9 August 2022 08: 32
      And judging by the fact that our leadership continues to repeat the mantra “we are still open to negotiations, but the Ukrainian side is silent,” the option of a new round of negotiations after the liberation of the territory of the Donetsk region is still on the agenda.
      Therefore, they do not touch Zelensky (and Kyiv in general). Yes, a drug addict, yes, a war criminal - but as soon as he hints, ours will rush towards him like mad......................
    5. -1
      10 August 2022 12: 36
      "We are ours, we will build a new world" ... Uh-huh. What is going to build, the author? winked
  2. +6
    8 August 2022 16: 10
    Yes, there are no options only to win. Otherwise, plans for how to divide us, in case of our loss, have been announced. We look at the Swedes and Finns, officially not in NATO, but what they are doing.
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      1. +7
        8 August 2022 16: 28
        We simply hate the Nazis and did not betray the memory of our grandfathers.
      2. +3
        8 August 2022 16: 36
        What is your recipe for victory as a layman?

        It has been written for a long time.
        We will beat you harder hour by hour:
        Bayonet and shell, knife and dubai.
        We will beat you, jam you with a landmine,
        We will fill your mouth with Soviet soil! K. Simonov

        Only replace Soviet land with Russian. And food is served.
        1. +1
          8 August 2022 22: 58
          And if without front-line romance? Just at a technical level, I’m wondering ... By the way, the same Haimars have not yet begun to be used in counter-battery combat, and we don’t even have to answer what will happen in this case. Or are these trifles? There is a bayonet, and a sapper shovel. What else does a Russian person need in the era of the beginning of network-centric wars.
      3. +5
        9 August 2022 05: 02
        Quote: Artyom Khvaleba
        What is your recipe for victory?

        Yes, the recipe is as simple as three pennies. The bad thing is .. that this recipe is categorically unrealizable now. (((In addition .. this recipe was very desirable to use a couple of years ago. Or at least immediately in March. ((Recipe -
        1)
        a) Reorganize all existing airborne divisions into motorized rifle divisions. Abolish the Airborne Forces in general, as a branch of the military.
        b) Dismiss all generals from the Airborne Forces from the army (not allowing them to command a cannon shot). Officers who graduated from the Ryazan School - a year for hard retraining.
        c) Disband all (with rare exceptions) motorized rifle and tank brigades, and form on their basis (as well as again) 25 motorized rifle divisions in addition to the existing ones and those created from the Airborne Forces.
        d) Legislatively and strictly introduce the norms of combat training in motorized rifle units. At least two shootings per week (one night shooting). At least 1 RTU with live firing per month. well, etc., etc., etc. At least 1 KShU per month (or mixed divisional exercise) in offensive and defensive positions. etc. etc.
        e) At least 200 hours per year of drill training in its full scope, as a necessary element for command and control in battle and in all situations at the front.
        f) Conduct artillery training, tank training, sapper training in MSD, etc. at least 4 times a year.
        -----------------
        2)
        a) Return the former system of material (and food!), medical, etc. provision to the army .. without any "outsourcing" there.
        b) Find and return generals to the army .. like Rokhlin, who know how to conduct an offensive and defense in accordance with a tough letter of combat regulations .. without any .. caps and adventures .. like - "one airborne regiment .." .
        c) Return the two-year service life. And do not use soldiers who have served less than a year in combat conditions. And also to restore the system of military registration and enlistment offices, and the system of retraining "partisans".
        Well, etc., etc., etc .. -)) Otherwise .. I feel .. I need to write a whole book .. and the letters of the alphabet are not enough.-))
        -------------------
        To be fair about MSD. - When in 1991 the Tamanskaya MSD was brought to Moscow, to allegedly suppress the "rebellion" .. it could not have been worse. Taman MSD absolutely unusable to perform such tasks. She was rigorously trained .. sharpened morally and in combat training, for of protection civilian population of Moscow from an external enemy , in the conditions of the front. And against women .. (especially grandmothers) .. the soldiers of the Taman division were .. well, like kids.
        sad But now .. almost 90% of our armed forces sharpened to suppress its population .. and only 10% .. against an external enemy at the front.
        This is where the trouble lies!
        1. +2
          9 August 2022 09: 09
          almost 90% of our armed forces are sharpened to suppress their population

          Why such a conclusion is not clear. Should tanks and artillery fire at their own? Are you with cisso?
          1. +2
            9 August 2022 09: 53
            Quote: glory1974
            Why this conclusion is made is not clear.

            This is not a conclusion. But you are right. Exaggerated. Emotionally and from fatigue by the end of the comment.-)) Yes, and I wanted to write - "from among all the ground forces."
            What percentage are motorized rifle and tank formations of all ground forces? Yes, a small percentage. Is not it so ?
            1. 0
              9 August 2022 10: 34
              What percentage are motorized rifle and tank formations of all ground forces? Yes, a small percentage.

              I think at least half. But if even less, what does it say? Well, obviously not about the focus on the fight against their people.
              1. +3
                9 August 2022 13: 11
                Quote: glory1974
                I think at least half.

                Considering the Russian Guard - less.
                Quote: glory1974
                what is it talking about?

                sad This suggests that the size of the real army we have is too small.
                And the number of all kinds of paramilitary formations .. of little use for war at the front, but very "cool" in civilian life - prohibitive.
    2. +2
      8 August 2022 17: 09
      Quote: tralflot1832
      We look at the Swedes and Finns, officially not in NATO, but what they are doing. They gathered us like a pie to share.

      The Swedes and Finns are trying to join the division of the skin of an unkilled bear, and this is life-threatening.
      1. 0
        8 August 2022 17: 12
        In the steppes of Ukraine, the fate of Europe is being decided. hi
        1. 0
          8 August 2022 17: 25
          Quote: tralflot1832
          In the steppes of Ukraine, the fate of Europe is being decided.

          "The salvation of the drowning, in the steppes of Ukraine, is the work of the drowning themselves."
        2. +2
          8 August 2022 17: 55
          In the steppes of Ukraine, the fate of Europe is being decided. hi

          And the world of everything.
        3. +5
          8 August 2022 23: 39
          In the steppes of Ukraine, the fate of Europe is being decided.

          Don't be petty. In agitation, you can say the universe. laughing
          1. -2
            8 August 2022 23: 44
            The fate of the United States in their parallel world. This is enough for me. Europe is ruining itself, which is surprising, we ourselves don’t need to do anything. Germany can’t put out the forest after the explosion of warehouses, 50 hectares are already blazing. It’s a pity for deer, maybe they ran away. hi
            1. +5
              9 August 2022 00: 02
              Something mixed up in a bunch of horses, people ...
              Let's take parts of flies and soup separately. drinks
              Germany can’t put out the forest after the explosion of warehouses, already 50 hectares are blazing. It’s a pity for the deer, maybe they ran away.

              50 hectares of forest in densely packed Europe is really a lot. And it's a pity here only forest living creatures.
              But with this
              Europe threatens itself, which is surprising, we ourselves do not need to do anything.

              According to some reports, the occupancy of UGS facilities in Europe is 65% and they say that this will be enough for a couple of years in the economy mode in Europe, and even among the burghers, the industry will not die at all. So the application to abandon our pipeline gas is more than serious, and we ourselves actually need to take measures on this matter for a long time. And something is not noticeable that Gazprom is at least somehow moving in a turn to the east or in programs for the construction of LNG terminals to diversify its consumers. Or are we going to smear gas on bread later, or what should we do with it? Moreover, in Russia, even despite the sanctions on the development of domestic mechanical engineering and machine tool building, either generally silent, or with a creak and in very places, and this does not change the situation cardinally. Worst of all, with microelectronics, since the time of covid, it became known about the shortage of microchips, but even in such a demanded segment, our business did not want to move at all.
              The fate of the USA in their parallel world. That's enough for me.

              Unfortunately the US does not want to be a parallel world. Moreover, their influence on real events is for some reason discussed and actively taken into account in the real world. Unfortunately, the US is not dead yet.
              1. +3
                9 August 2022 00: 17
                I didn’t say that the USA would die, it’s enough for them to get sick of the little ones. And it’s already underway. They have a large margin of safety, they didn’t come out of such squabbles. they need to build 80 km of the pipeline from the LNG terminal, which also does not exist to the gas transportation system, before the new year, 27 billion a year is already something. Mikhelson and Novatek even feel better. There is a problem with microchips, but not a fatal one, after Piloska's trick. I read the NYT, just before the Piloska's visit. The Americans, advanced in electronics, did not advise doing this, China caught up almost with Taiwan in the latest generations of chips. Maybe the Americans are lying.
                1. +4
                  9 August 2022 00: 32
                  in Germany, they need until the new year

                  And that after the new year, life on the planet will end due to unfinished construction in Germany? Where does this limitation come from?
                  I didn’t say that the USA would die, it’s enough for me that they get sick of the little one.

                  I would be even happier if they were not a baby, but mortally sick. And for this you can drinks
                  ,China has almost caught up with Taiwan in the latest generations of chips.

                  Unfortunately, China is not only our enemy. But rather the enemy at prices is really the trade turnover between us and China is growing, only in tons it is falling. So, in fact, China quite happily ditched us and is complying with the sanctions.
                  So, as usual, we only have the army and the navy as friends, although the latter often just messes up in full, but for me, even our fleet is a more reliable friend to us than China.
                  1. +1
                    9 August 2022 00: 42
                    With China, time will tell if his business has become too transnational. My China aid marker is Novatek. With its three liquefaction cascades. The first one he handed over, the second unfinished already in Belokamenka, which the Chinese abandoned. But Mikhelson said he would complete it.
  3. +7
    8 August 2022 16: 11
    Yes, everything is clear. We will win. The main thing is that "labeled 2.0" does not crawl out onto the stage and pull the country into the abyss of the new Malta
  4. +2
    8 August 2022 16: 13
    They go because they have to. That's what your heart needs. This is how the Donbass needs it. That's what Russia needs. So it is necessary to be, and not to exist ...

    Beautifully written. good
  5. +30
    8 August 2022 16: 15
    Some kind of propaganda article, especially in the first paragraphs. It is somewhat reminiscent of another, two years ago, dedicated to our heroic struggle against the coronovirus, under the same authorship. Find the difference so to speak hi
    https://topwar.ru/170801-povtor.html
    1. +10
      8 August 2022 17: 30
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      It is somewhat reminiscent of another, two years ago, dedicated to our heroic struggle against the coronovirus, under the same authorship. Find the difference so to speak

      I didn’t find any difference, but a quote from that article reminded me of the eternal struggle with windmills:
      Today I already went to the store ...

      And you know came back with a festive mood. No, it wasn't posters or balloons that lifted this very mood for me. Not even the elegance of some sellers. No. I was cheered up by a guy who was handing out ... masks at the entrance to the room.

      I do not know what to say ?
      1. +1
        9 August 2022 18: 17
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And you know, I returned with an almost festive mood. No, it wasn't posters or balloons that lifted this very mood for me. Not even the smartness of some sellers. No. I was cheered up by a guy who was handing out ... masks at the entrance to the room.
        I do not know what to say ?

        "Gavrila suffered from gangrene, Gavrila fell ill from gangrene ...
        Gavrila served as a postman, Gavrila delivered letters ...
        Gavrila waited in ambush for a hare, Gavrila shot the hare.
        Gavrila served behind the counter, Gavrila traded in a flute ... "(c) the digital army is fulfilling the plan for the rampart.
        1. +1
          9 August 2022 19: 11
          Quote: clou
          Gavrila waited in ambush for a hare, Gavrila shot the hare.
          Gavrila served behind the counter, Gavrila traded in a flute ... "(c)

          Better yet:
          "Gavrilo was an unfaithful husband, Gavrilo cheated on his wives!"
    2. +5
      8 August 2022 21: 08
      Again, the article is an excuse from the same author. If you are right, never make excuses. Yes, even with a chant.
    3. +8
      8 August 2022 23: 43
      Some kind of propaganda article, especially in the first paragraphs.

      In order not to place such articles in the "analytics" section, it is advisable to create a "campaign" section within the site and that's where it is intended.
    4. +7
      9 August 2022 11: 21
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      Some kind of propaganda article, especially in the first paragraphs.

      And there is.
      Once again I regret that the author's name is published at the end of the article, and not in its title. For this author to read well, such a thing. Solovyov, only from VO.
      And so I saw the name of the author, closed the tab and went on to read something interesting.
  6. +8
    8 August 2022 16: 19
    "we do not encroach on their identity, on the existence of their nation" - the hello have arrived !!! just the opposite. Russification takes place in the liberated territories
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    1. -1
      8 August 2022 16: 32
      And what happens, just don’t: And why are we? There are no white and fluffy Natsiks. They must be dead or at the very least uphill. Denafizing Ukraine, we ensure our security in Europe.
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      -5
      8 August 2022 16: 51
      Quote: Artyom Khvaleba
      In this country, something needs to be done with the isolation of mentally ill people.

      That's for sure! Looks like the orderlies relaxed with you at some point. wink
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  8. +15
    8 August 2022 16: 23
    I don't know how to solve this problem, how to convince Ukrainians that we are not encroaching on their identity, on the existence of their nation.

    Christmas tree sticks again Ukrainian is a nation, apparently the same as Siberian.
  9. +20
    8 August 2022 16: 42
    Author, for starters, defeat those who seized our natural wealth (and not only) and called themselves a beautiful, ancient word-oligarch. And you will be the author of great human happiness. Yes, and so do we.
    1. +6
      8 August 2022 16: 45
      Author, for starters, defeat those who seized our natural wealth (and not only) and called themselves a beautiful, ancient word-oligarch. And you will be the author of great human happiness. Yes, and so do we.

      Yes, this issue should be dealt with immediately after the victory. You can no longer postpone. Who's just to do recourse
    2. -14
      8 August 2022 17: 08
      Your nickname is very correct. Just do not use the strategy of diverting the discussion aside for a long time. Tired. Can't you come up with something new?
      1. +7
        8 August 2022 17: 41
        Actually, my friend, this is the basis of all foundations, everything stems from this. Only the last fool can not understand this. I am sure the author even you understand this. But be cunning. However, there is nothing new in this.
  10. +23
    8 August 2022 16: 58
    our ties with the West, and especially with the United States, in recent decades, as Russia has been reborn
    And how did they begin to revive? They began to build machine-tool factories, according to their technologies, livestock farms, behind VAZ and KAMAZ, queues of foreign buyers lined up. Russian fast food began to crowd out imported .. The outflow of capital abroad has stopped ..
  11. +1
    8 August 2022 17: 30
    In the Spanish Republic, which fought against fascism back in 1936, there was a slogan "Better to die standing than to live on your knees." In the event of the defeat of Russia, there will be no knees now, the West also made conclusions, only the complete destruction of both the state and the People. Remember THIS.
  12. -4
    8 August 2022 17: 30
    I see that lately there have been more videos, sparks: Krasnopol 152 mm and Orlan 30 as a target designator. Already in 2 days I counted more than a dozen vehicles destroyed. .
  13. +10
    8 August 2022 18: 21
    And, again, all sorts of explanations that "should" win.
    All as one, Putin, USSR, Putin, West, Omerika, USSR...

    And not a single article, not a single comment that someone signed up as a volunteer ... at least in the "Om medical company"
  14. -2
    8 August 2022 18: 42
    See what they write about SVO on Wikipedia! Why can't this shit be blocked?
    1. +10
      8 August 2022 19: 53
      Do you know what they write on the censor? there is generally a horror .. there is only one answer - if you don’t like how they write something somewhere, why do you go there? masochism?
  15. +5
    8 August 2022 18: 44
    It became clear that the West does not need a strong Russia

    Right now it’s very interesting to whom did it become clear, and most importantly, when? laughing
    Is it possible that the last of the Gaidar-Chubais policy began to suspect that they are being held in the West for dense popuases who bought into bright beads? laughing
    1. +21
      8 August 2022 18: 55
      We like to write about strong Russia, but they don’t like to remember that strong Russia raised the retirement age, at the request of the IMF, a month later, as weak Ukraine did, at the same demand. This is an example. And there are many such examples, when a strong Russia has fulfilled and is fulfilling the requirements of international organizations to which it belongs. The membership of a strong Russia has been suspended in various sports organizations, and they are in no hurry to exclude or suspend membership in financial, trade international organizations, oh, well, because we are strong. smile Like Sberbank, with its financial network, entangled the whole world. laughing hi
      1. +17
        8 August 2022 19: 03
        Quote: parusnik
        We like to write about a strong Russia, but they don’t like to remember that a strong Russia has raised the retirement age, at the request of the IMF

        Don't deprive people of their rose-colored glasses. wink They already have nothing left but faith, although it has already been monetized. lol
        1. +9
          8 August 2022 19: 12
          Don't deprive people of their rose-colored glasses.
          You are right, one "disenfranchised" has already minus. laughing
  16. -9
    8 August 2022 19: 29
    We must agree to help from the Koreans if they agree to fight on our side.
    1. +7
      8 August 2022 19: 55
      eh .. the Great Country survived .. ask the Koreans and Iranians for help .. I hope this will not happen Arkady .. since it is shameful for us ..
      1. -4
        8 August 2022 20: 44
        It is shameful to die for all those who, after a while, do not remember this.
  17. +4
    8 August 2022 19: 50
    “... In this country, normal people can be counted on the fingers of two hands, all the rest are uneducated, stupid, and thank God that this people has no power. If the people come to power, I will flee this country.”

    This passage reminds me of something. Are our last elections? Both presidential and Duma... It should not be "ohlos" to decide who will lead it. There are specially trained people for this. And now, yes, “changing horses” will most likely mean the end of Russia as such. And the one who made the decision to start "SVO" in Ukraine understood this very well. And the fact that we will win in Ukraine, I personally have no doubts. But everything is not limited to Ukraine. Where will it blaze next? Kazakhstan? Azerbaijan? the Baltics? Enough of us all? It is unlikely that Central Asian migrants, who are massively imported and naturalized on the territory of Russia, are burning with the desire to fight. Correct reporting on the demographic situation, yes, but it is unlikely to fight.
  18. -6
    8 August 2022 20: 39
    There is no way back. We must "finish the verse." This is the only way we can save this world at all, save the planet.
    Yes In another way.
  19. +2
    8 August 2022 22: 38
    ne perewospitywat mjateznuju ukrainsku czern nakazywat
    kak eto delal Imperator Petr Welikij i usmirat kak Batyj
  20. +4
    8 August 2022 22: 51
    It is desirable that the authorities and society discuss where the Russian Federation spent money in Ukraine before and after 2014 and why this led to the need to start a large-scale war ... .. The number of victims of which will then be difficult to digest.
    And it is desirable that the military elite that will appear as a result be integrated into the politics of the Russian Federation
  21. +3
    9 August 2022 06: 35
    It has become fashionable to formulate riddles ..... Starting from the genre that has become a classic: "There will be defeat and terrible consequences" and "The geography of hostilities will expand and change" to "we will win." We are sitting on the couch...
    Involuntarily, an ancient legend is recalled that the devil cannot cross himself, and no matter how hard he tries, he only does something similar ....
    It is strange that so far one has not heard the simple and clear: "The Russian army will win."
  22. +3
    9 August 2022 07: 09
    Is this analytics?
  23. +10
    9 August 2022 07: 14
    I will express the opinion of the couch analyst that I am, this is not an NWO, this is some kind of “strange war”, the bridges in western Ukraine are intact, the railway junctions are intact, communications are not destroyed, decision-making centers are standing as they were, we are pumping gas through the pipe or “nothing personal, only business", the whole operation is carried out with an eye on the world community, Russia does not lift sanctions from North Korea, although it is itself under sanctions, in general, this is another imperialist conflict, for spheres of influence and sales markets, where residents of two fraternal countries have become a bargaining chip , although I don’t deny brainwashed Ukrainians and there are enough Nazis there, but our Nazis are sitting right there with Kolovrats on chevrons and rubbing for denazification, for that from all the irons they call on us to rally shoulder to shoulder, but it’s not clear for what idea, ideology we are not in the country, how should we win the minds of Ukrainians? because our capitalism is better than theirs?
  24. -2
    9 August 2022 07: 43
    even the "Kursk maize man" resolved the NUCLEAR Caribbean crisis without any wars and without the "best" diplomats in the world, even little North Korea deployed American destroyers, and here with a huge amount of nuclear weapons that were created by the entire union and which Russia "captured" in exchange for promise of protection.......
  25. +7
    9 August 2022 09: 03
    In my opinion, the author is dreaming, seeing the strengthening and rising of the Russian Federation from its knees, relying on its current government.
  26. +2
    9 August 2022 11: 21
    Victory is at least the entire Left Bank of the Dnieper + Odessa, Nikolaev and Izmail with Krivoy Rog.
  27. 0
    9 August 2022 12: 38
    If the people came to power in our country, then Arrest would have nowhere to run away and the suede bodybuilders would have to answer for their behavior. And not like now. Just patted on the head. Where is Chubais?
  28. +4
    9 August 2022 12: 55
    For the West, the beginning of the NWO was not a surprise; already on February 24 and 25, the first heavy sanctions began. They definitely agreed on them in advance, they were just waiting for the start of the NWO. But our own government slammed -
    pro-rali half of the sovereign reserves, although they could simply be transferred to other assets, primarily in non-Western jurisdictions. Even with some loss in liquidity and quality. Would have now at hand + 20 trillion. money extra. But, the mind and calculation was not enough to calculate the "civilized". Why?! The question is rhetorical. When a person does not feel responsible to the country and is not afraid of being fired for obvious mistakes, he does not think. But he simply drags himself from his official position and significance. So our "valiant" leaders from the Central Bank, the Ministry of Finance, the General Staff, the Foreign Intelligence Service, the Foreign Ministry, the government apparatus and blew what they had to calculate and report responsibly to the top. Now we disentangle. Together. And those who overslept continue to sit in their offices and take part in meetings with important people. And why not change them for people who support the country and are not afraid to tell the truth, incl. top management?
    Who will lose from this? Only the idlers themselves and our enemies. And we will all win.
  29. +6
    9 August 2022 13: 42
    Variable song of the combat song-leader. Now we are moving from the hope that "Ukraine will fall apart" to the hope that "the army of Ukraine will freeze." I don't think it will freeze. And what efforts will be made / and whether an acceptable result for Russia will be achieved is a question.
  30. +8
    9 August 2022 14: 29
    Volunteering is, of course, magical, but let's look at the situation soberly.
    NWO has been going on for the 7th month and there is no end in sight. In the course of it, a mass of weapons and forces are already involved, far beyond the boundaries of what could be called the NWO. They are already bombing and shelling our territory, by the way. Nevertheless, war has not been declared - neither by us-Ukraine, nor by Ukraine-us. And we pump gas through Ukraine, and they pump our gas through themselves.
    In such a situation, I have a lot of questions that do not go well with volunteering. What are we volunteering for, exactly? IN ITS ? She is special for the fact that she is engaged, it seems, not by various bast shoes and volunteers, but by Specialists. According to the healthy logic of things, "volunteers" are needed in the NWO in extremely limited quantities. Precisely because of its "specialty".
    Outside this "specialty", the case is already called the word "B", and here, of course, nowhere without volunteers. But here everything should already go according to the logic of war - and if someone can be "reached" by missiles, they must be reached, with a minimal look at politics. And in this regard, volunteers may not be needed, right?

    You see, an effective solution is always tied to a sober goal setting. Now we are sitting on several chairs, like Truffaldino from Bergama, trying to please several masters - and in this scenario, "volunteers" are people whose tasks will be as vague as much of what is happening. And their status will be, accordingly, the same vague. Will they then be treated and "repaired" for state funds? Will the Geneva Convention apply to them? Will our diplomats take care of them in the worst case? Will the state pay the families of such fiery patriots at least something in the event of their death? After all, legally, these people "volunteered themselves" and you can shrug your hands and say "what can you do!" , and after all, worse than that - they can say just that.

    So let's put cheers-romanticism out of the brackets, while in my opinion the situation continues to be as muddled as possible, with a smile and jokes to rush into the millstones yourself is unnecessary.
  31. 0
    9 August 2022 18: 11
    Quote from Vincent Price
    Why do we need Lviv and Ternopil? The people there are not ours, they hate us earnestly and on purpose, let them live as they want, only without weapons and without foreign troops on the territory.

    So let them live in foreign territory. I am categorically for the Kaliningrad scenario. Get a great Russian region.
  32. +2
    10 August 2022 00: 28
    The usual patriotic propaganda.
    No one thinks that Russia will defeat Ukraine.
    But before that, no one doubted this either and was sure that the war would take days, a maximum of a week. Because gigantic funds were spent on the army and they told on TV how everything was hurt with new weapons, drones, etc.
    Now we are recruiting volunteers...
    1. 0
      10 August 2022 12: 59
      Quote: certero
      Now we are recruiting volunteers...
      Plusanul, but I do not agree with this thesis because we do not "collect", but people themselves go realizing that we cannot take them out with small forces. It's just that if mobilization is announced, it will no longer be a military defense, but a war, and this is a completely different matter.
  33. 0
    10 August 2022 08: 33
    Yes, we will win, but at what cost.
  34. 0
    10 August 2022 11: 54
    Businessmen suddenly realized that they were citizens of Russia, and not citizens of the world, as was fashionable then.
    Neither "" they realized, it's just more profitable
  35. 0
    10 August 2022 12: 55
    I repeat, in the form in which the West exists today, we are not interested in it.
    Alexander, I always read your articles with interest, but on this thesis I must say that today we live according to the Western model. All dreams are reduced to "being rich and successful", which in itself is pathetic, but will not go anywhere as long as we use this system and put up with it. Already sick of the word "successful"! The only success of every person lies in the fact of his birth, the rest is vanity. Well, as for our way of life, our authorities need to urgently do something in this direction, otherwise they will not lead the country out of the Western dead-end style. It is clear that the oligarchs will strongly oppose this, but what to do, they have no place in our society and our country in the form in which they exist today. Socialism is easy to finalize, it has already been "run in" with us for 70 years and has shown its viability, especially in the Great Patriotic War.
  36. 0
    11 August 2022 01: 03
    Quote: yumico
    Businessmen suddenly realized that they were citizens of Russia, and not citizens of the world, as was fashionable then.
    Neither "" they realized, it's just more profitable

    Businessmen are exactly the same people as everyone else. And the majority of people doing business, despite the fact that the state often does not help And nevertheless interferes with the inhabitants of Russia and love their country and are patriots. A handful of oligarchs sitting at the top does not play any role here.
  37. 0
    11 August 2022 01: 04
    Quote: businessv
    Quote: certero
    Now we are recruiting volunteers...
    Plusanul, but I do not agree with this thesis because we do not "collect", but people themselves go realizing that we cannot take them out with small forces. It's just that if mobilization is announced, it will no longer be a military defense, but a war, and this is a completely different matter.

    So what? Let it be different. If we had gathered a grouping of 600 thousand for the first strike, everything would have ended long ago and there would have been much fewer losses.
    Even now it is not too late to do this, to declare mobilization, to gather a million-strong army and defeat the enemy
    1. 0
      19 August 2022 10: 55
      Urya-patriots do not understand that at present the Moscow Region simply does not have the strength for a full-fledged victory, and one can only guess what an inferior one will look like. As General Shamanov said, and he knows what he is talking about, the Moscow Region does not even have the strength for a full-fledged rotation, people are tired. Conscripts are generally not clear why they are needed, apparently to paint the curbs and build dachas for the generals. It seems that everything is simple, combat-ready units are about 500 thousand people. hp out of 1100000, half are already fighting, - losses, + Syria, + peacekeepers, + military bases, + defense of borders, the territory is not like Estonia’s, the rest is the rear, conscripts and all sorts of things, cheerfully marching in white skirts in parades. Well, with whom to win unconditional victories, then God forbid to keep what we have.
  38. 0
    11 August 2022 01: 05
    Quote: businessv
    Socialism is easy to finalize, it has already been "run in" with us for 70 years and has shown its viability, especially in the Great Patriotic War.

    I understand that our generation is haunted by socialism, but believe me, the youth does not want it at all.
  39. -3
    11 August 2022 14: 14
    Slogans alone won't win a war.
  40. 0
    12 August 2022 09: 19
    Who was nothing, that will be all

    It is precisely from nowhere that you need to take cadres and forge from them precisely the servants of the state and the people of Russia! Not from the enemy Cambridge or Harvard, but Russians from the Russian people! Guide, train, control and, if necessary, punish for not justifying your expectations! This would also justify the high maintenance of state responsible people! And so, what is, is not subject to jurisdiction, that is, they are not required!
  41. 0
    12 August 2022 11: 23
    Who are we? This is the first question .. Will we defeat whom? This is the second. The same thing again ... that's what ... It is quite likely that it was precisely in order to do the same thing that all this was started ... At the same time, remove the objectionable ... especially zealous, so to speak ... As an option? ..Those who live at the expense of others will never get away from this .... remember ... And all the crap about patriotism from those who koalas, destroyed, sold and simply killed is not worth any trust .... ANYTHING. ....
  42. -1
    14 August 2022 07: 20
    Victory or death.
  43. 0
    18 August 2022 14: 34
    I really want "to have a holiday on our street!" And, most importantly, to have someone to celebrate and as many people as possible to celebrate!
  44. 0
    19 August 2022 10: 44
    The question of when this will happen is being discussed, since there is no light in this tunnel yet. And do not forget that there are different victories, including Pyrrhic ones. And judging by the movements at the top, things are heading towards such a victory, no matter how much reparations have to be paid, with such and such a brilliant SVO.
  45. 0
    19 August 2022 13: 26
    Quote: Pipa of Surinam
    Urya-patriots do not understand that at present the Moscow Region simply does not have the strength for a full-fledged victory, and one can only guess what an inferior one will look like.

    Based on purely technical capabilities, yes, of course, the Ministry of Defense has enough forces for a full-fledged victory.
    The simplest has never been used by the concentration of the Aerospace Forces to destroy the enemy's near rear. Yes, this will lead to serious losses, but the enemy will be destroyed.
    Well, the last argument of kings always remains tactical atomic weapons. this is such a trump card against which the enemy has no reception.
  46. +1
    27 August 2022 17: 21
    The article is excellent in that it gives answers even to me, a foreigner. Russia must win, and Russia will win. It all started with Gorbachev's betrayal, don't forget that. We, small satellite states, have united in the Economic Assistance Council and in the military treaty of the Warsaw Pact. Today the Czech Republic is a colonial country. am
  47. 0
    27 August 2022 22: 29
    Quote: Altmann
    Russia must win, and Russia will win.

    Thanks for the kind words.
    We hope so with all our hearts.

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