Representatives of the ICRC found a reason to refuse the offer to participate in the investigation of the attack on the pre-trial detention center in Yelenovka

Representatives of the leadership of the ICRC (International Committee of the Red Cross) actually refused the proposal of the Russian Ministry of Defense to delegate representatives to the joint commission with the UN to investigate the attack on the pre-trial detention center in Yelenovka. Recall that as a result of the strike, which, according to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, was inflicted by Ukrainian troops from the HIMARS universal rocket launcher, more than fifty captured militants of the Ukrainian national battalion "Azov" (* banned in Russia) were killed, dozens more were injured.

Representatives of the ICRC tried to explain their refusal to participate in the investigation by the fact that they allegedly do not have a mandate to participate in investigations. An interesting statement. That is, the ICRC has a mandate to check the detention of persons who committed war crimes and hid behind women, children and the elderly in Mariupol, but the organization does not have a mandate to participate in identifying those who eliminated these persons ...

It is noteworthy that the statement of the top of the ICRC is at odds with the statements of the Ukrainian representatives of the committee. Those a few hours ago announced that the Russian side "does not allow them to investigate." Based on all these statements, it turns out that only the Ukrainian side of the committee has the mandate to participate in investigations among ICRC members?..

Why did the International Committee of the Red Cross refuse the offer of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? It is quite obvious - for the reason that the investigation will lead to the Ukrainian side. Moreover, we will also have to explain about the strange "coincidence" - the blow was struck shortly after the members of the ICRC inspected the place where the captured "Azovites" were kept in Yelenovka*.

This, of course, cannot be allowed in an "independent international" organization. Therefore, they found a reason to refuse to participate in the investigation.

Comments

[Sergio_7]

Representatives of the ICRC tried to explain their refusal to participate in the investigation by the fact that they allegedly do not have a mandate to participate in investigations. An interesting statement. That is, the ICRC has a mandate to check the detention of persons who committed war crimes and hid behind women, children and the elderly in Mariupol, but the organization does not have a mandate to participate in identifying those who eliminated these persons.

This organization is the UWB's pocket dog! She has no faith!

[U_GOREC]

Today I watched Latynina on this topic. It's just ....... some! Herod, innocently murdered Azov infants! How can people's consciousness be changed ...

[Nexcom]

Do you still watch these? I've watched it a couple of times before - never again! Not only is it scary, it's also stupid.

[NIKN]

Quote: Nexcom

Do you still watch these? I've watched it a couple of times before - never again! Not only is it scary, it's also stupid.

Ernst Haeckel suggested that between man and his ancestor, the ancient ape, there must have been some intermediate being.

But scientists have not discovered this link... But I look around, so not only there are many representatives of this link, but you can also see representatives of dead-end branches of evolution.

[Skif]

Yes. The shaggy oscilloscope needle will never be forgotten!

[Alien From]

Drive this whole gang with pissing rags!!!! I support you!!!!

[avg avg]

Sir, watch Latinina? You understand a lot about perversions!

[Nexcom]

You are very precise about the distortions.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: avg avg

Sir, watch Latinina? You understand a lot about perversions!

I believe in logic and try to find it even in such disastrous cases. Well, there must be some kind of concept that is based on logical constructions ... But I can’t stand it for more than 15 minutes, I’m weak Putin-Herod, has a personal dislike for Azov and Ukraine, and therefore everything around is happening! This is religious obscurantism! And I'm an atheist...

[zenion]

U_GOREC. She can't be conscious. This is a record, and as you know, no matter how many times you play the record, it will bark the same thing.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: zenion

She can't be conscious. This is a record

A local gansales (Z) which in a circle:

Russia is not Anglo-Saxons and other Jews ..

As soon as the West (Anglo-Saxons and Jews) did not try to calculate us .. Nothing worked out for them men

Eh Fritz (who is in power Scholz, Merkel), you are Anglo-Saxon litters and Jews ..

The most interesting thing is that in Kyiv the Jews are in power and right there the national battalions with specific fascist symbols and torchlight processions ..

and so on... Is he also a record? hackneyed))) And how popular this disc is here! Look at the rating in just half a year! Society diagnosis?

[Alex_Bora]

Smiled.
Don't be so upset about it. Just take this kind of statements as "white noise" (a term from radio engineering, very suitable for this phenomenon).
The man seems to have absolutely nothing to do. Retirement, respectable age ... Make allowances for this ...

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Alex_Bora

The man seems to have absolutely nothing to do. Retirement, respectable age ... Make allowances for this ...

Yes, I have no complaints about him at all - you never know d.u.r.a.ch.k.o.v into the world))) I am puzzled by his rating and the number of likes on this resource, where, at the root, as it were, military retirees...

[marchcat]

Something I don’t remember the same investigations with "international" organizations in Syria or Iraq or Libya.

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: marchcat

Something I don’t remember the same investigations with "international" organizations in Syria or Iraq or Libya.

Somehow I don’t remember that the ICRC visited our prisoners of war before 1.2.1942. Let me remind you that out of 3 captured soldiers of the Red Army before February 417, 000, 1.2.1942 were released, 318 successfully escaped, and approximately 800 died behind barbed wire and in the open before February 50, 000.
Maybe we should start with these historical moments?

It's time to get used to the fact that the Slavs, in the eyes of the West, have always been garbage. They were then, they are now. And the more I read such comments, the more I begin to respect our grandfathers and fathers of the winners.

[Alien From]

And you Damir are right!

[U_GOREC]

Quote: Damir Zakirov

It's time to get used to the fact that the Slavs, in the eyes of the West, have always been garbage. They were then, they are now.

For the sake of justice, not only us. They have such an attitude to the whole world around them. And to each other, too, for the British - the Scots and the Irish are not quite people. For the French, the Germans, for the Germans - the French ... And those who are on the outskirts, such as the Spaniards and Greeks - in general. What can we say about the Slavs or, God forgive me, the Papuans ...
For comparison, read Kipling on the white man's burden and Miklouho-Maclay's articles on the Papuans. These are two different civilizational approaches to the World...

[General70]

Wrong comrade, not UWB, NSA-Nazi States of America

[zenion]

General70. Mark Twain was the first to name America the United Lynching States.

[General70]

This version also has the right to life

[ABC-schutze]

But, in addition to the Red Cross, there is also the Red Crescent. Maybe, if it's not two "in one bottle", it's worth inviting the Crescent?..

[Alex_Bora]

Rather, the "green crescent" will come.

[Plate]

What the hell is that, huh? Is there at least one humanitarian organization left that is ready to fulfill its obligations as it should be, or have they all caved in? Damn, and no one in the world pays attention to all this! That's the most annoying thing. That everyone has it right before their eyes - and everyone cares.

[al3x]

This is how the redistribution of the world, the new world order, looks like. The masks are thrown off, everything becomes what it really is and what it was created for.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Plate

Is there at least one humanitarian organization left that is ready to fulfill its obligations as it should be, or have they all caved in?

For a long time I came across an interview with one of the US politicians (I think he was an adviser to Reagan), and when asked about some independent organization, he gave out the truth-womb that only d ... and can believe in some independent international organizations.

[Plate]

Yes, it's clear that everyone is sponsored by someone, and the main sponsor orders the music. But not as hypocritical. Aw, fuck all that.

[seregatara1969]

Don't fsem on the drum! Fse these organizations have a screen, a beautiful mask on the face! Method of control and subordination

[Alien From]

Get used to the plate! Us tu-tu, and we grow stronger!

[Paladin]

This organization is a pocket dog

Two-faced creatures in the service of the American Wolfschan.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Sergio_7

This organization is the UWB's pocket dog! She has no faith!

[military_cat]

The picture with the text is wrong, about the Boeing, the US says they have intelligence.

[Penzyak]

It is necessary, under the chairmanship of Russia, to convene, together with the appropriate governments of most countries of the world, a forum, congress or meeting to establish new organizations, such as the IWC, the OPCW, the International Court (tribunal), etc. wherever the rear-wheel drive and Nazis of the United States are now in charge. And work with them, and these under pin dosniks no payments and contributions, drive them from the horizon and let them squeal from impotence.

[silverwolf88]

All these commissions are initially biased towards the collective West ... neither objectivity nor conscience ... only conjuncture and loot ... and even they spy leaking information

[ANB]

Present the beacon and state that it was placed by representatives of the ICRC. The evidence is secret.

[Catfish]

HIMARS does not need a beacon.

[Skif]

Yes, and don't care! This is for public opinion. It's time for them to learn fake throwing.

[Aleks2048]

Representatives of the ICRC found a reason to refuse the offer to participate in the investigation of the attack on the pre-trial detention center in Yelenovka

Yes, and in the stump of all of them scrawny. Without their chatter figured out who is to blame.
Why even invite them at all?

[Prisoner]

There are opportunities, no, but "wet" these prostitutes from "humanitarian" missions always and everywhere. Buy journalists, buy bloggers, buy and buy. And send the ICRC to hell when they climb with their Wishlist. They are not objective, they are not neutral, they are enemies!

[antivirus]

Rejection doesn't stop dwarves from making money.
More interested in the fate of the grandmother with the red flag.
Where are they with their grandfather, what about health ..?

[Okakakiev]

Because they are reptilians

[shapkin ushankin]

They didn’t “found the reason”, but came up with an excuse ...

[GNM]

No, no judgment! Let no more blather who did it!

[Skipper]

ICRC = OSCE ............................................... ....

[rocket757]

Why did the International Committee of the Red Cross refuse the offer of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? Quite obviously -

. Mother Teresa condemningly looks at those who, AS LIKE, are, have appointed themselves, the successors of her work!!!
He gave me, like many others in the world, that the IMPRESSIVE with minke whales turn any organization into a weapon of upholding, THEIR INTERES.
Here "repair / reorganization, none of it will help !!! Demolish the naf to the ground and make a new one, only without impudence, minke whales .... everything they feed on rots to the ground.

[avg avg]

Do not idealize Mother Teresa, she is still a witch who passionately hated Russians!

[rocket757]

It is not news that during the First World War, the content of Russian prisoners, the Germans, was not ah and KK looked at it through his fingers ....
It has always been like this, all international organizations "clucked", took care of the interests of "civilized states", and spat on the suffering of the "natives" from above!

[ABC-schutze]

By the way, in the "investigative" farce organized by the Nazi-Hitlerites in Katyn, representatives of the ICRC, it seems, did NOT take part. But not by choice...

The Polish government in London, April 17, 1943, asked the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) to send a commission to Katyn to conduct an investigation. By a "strange coincidence", it was at this time that Hitler's Germany turned to the ICRC with a similar request, which gave rise to suspicion of a joint appeal of the Poles and Germans to the ICRC. Only pressure from Churchill thwarted the "trip" of the ICRC to Katyn. But, which is typical, this "humanitarian" organization DID NOT SHOW any ITS initiative THEN. I demonstrate COMPLETE PASSIVITY in the matter, BY DEFINITION, judging by the PURPOSE OF ITS CREATION, which is within its competence and scope of activity ...

Yes, and the negotiations between the United States and the Nazis, separate, along the "Himmler line", under the guise of "saving the Jews", in 1945, it was the ICRC that "covered".

And rightly so, SMERSH, in Budapest, tied Wallenberg's "neutral" ...

[Alexander Salenko]

So for sure, a publicized doll, nothing more.

[ABC-schutze]

I believe that if the ICRC does not come to Olenevka for investigation, the DPR, LPR and Russia should OFFICIALLY declare that they refuse the "services" of the ICRC as a "neutral" observer-intermediary. In view of UNSOUNDED BY OBJECTIVE CIRCUMSTANCES, REFUSAL of the latter to perform his DIRECT duties

[Alexander Salenko]

Kamrad, Yelenovka, Olena, this is Elena in Ukrainian.

[Storog dvornik]

OVER THE LAST 33+ years, many grandchildren, and successful great-grandchildren, have learned from many influential gentlemen from the nineties in Europe and are officials of various levels of enemy offices like the ICRC ...
FIFTH COLUMN INSIDE RUSSIA...

[sat2004]

It would be strange if they undertook to investigate, would visit the alley of angels. How much can you dream?

[Gippo]

Animals stood
Near the door.
They were shot
They were dying.
But there were those who took pity on them,
Those who opened these doors to the beasts.
The animals were greeted with songs and loud laughter.
And the animals entered and killed everyone. (C)
A. Strugatsky

[acetophenone]

Apparently, very, very good people work there from Russia. Therefore, it is absolutely impossible to touch these organizations. Otherwise, after all, these fair-faced ones will become handshakes.

[RED_ICE]

Looks like they got permission to go))

[Sergey39]

All these pseudo organizations have always poured water on the mill ov! They have no faith and they went to x ..! (((

[opposite28]

Recall that as a result of the strike, which, according to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, was inflicted by Ukrainian troops from the HIMARS universal rocket launcher, more than fifty captured militants of the Ukrainian national battalion "Azov" (* banned in Russia) were killed, dozens more were injured.

Did the current members of the nationalist battalion "Azov" use the word "fascist" to describe the organizers and perpetrators of the missile attack on the pre-trial detention center in Yelenovka?! And also, after the friendly rocket fire on fellow Nazis, the decent fascists of the Azov national battalion will cease to serve dishonest fascists with headquarters located at 11 Bankova St. in Kiev, as well as 5 Mikhail Hrushevsky St., and the slender Ukrainian nationalist ranks will thin out in connection with the introduced split?!

[Arkady007]

All this was predictable without options.
And the fact that there will be a blow to the prisoners and that they will blame Russia a month ago ..

[Napayz]

When our people at the UN raised the issue of investigating the activities of the Amer biolaboratories on the territory of 404, the UN replied that, they say, they do not have AUTHORITY to conduct investigations

[Luenkov]

The activities of the Red Cross in recent times often fall under the Criminal Code... Work Brothers!

[iz odessy]

are we tearing ourselves up with such news? if you think about it, calmly - what does the ICRC have to do with an investigation of this kind? Just read the functions entrusted to the UN! Plus, the fact that actions abroad of their functions, which the Americans and their caudle may well prove and "incriminate" the ICRC ... will end with funding restrictions. Do they need it? In fact, it is necessary not to wait for the UN, it seems, but to create a commission of inquiry ourselves, inviting authoritative experts from outside. Or maybe you don’t need to spend money! Do everything correctly yourself (for example, with the Chinese) and hem it on the shelf

[IVZ]

It looks like there are no independent international organizations left, and there is no reason to count on any kind of justice, objectivity, or impartiality. This means that the entire existing system of international relations can slowly go down the drain, and we need to take steps to prepare and implement plans to create alternative, or rather actual analogues of existing institutions.

[Scientist]

What's the point of their invitation? For them to say that yes, something exploded, but what and from where is not their competence. But if the Ukrainians refuse, then Russia most likely did it. And then try to refute the "conclusions of the experts of the international organization."
If they still blame Russia, why all this circus? By the way, where are the KK investigations into the murders of our prisoners?

[Carlos Hall]

The CIA ordered Zelensky to destroy the Azov for image reasons. His Nazi armor did great damage to Ukrainian nationalists.

[tank64rus]

It’s just that they didn’t let specialists from Western “offices” be evacuated, remember helicopters, then they crashed them in the dungeons, covering their tracks. They forgot one thing that their “offices” do not forgive this. It was a demonstrative mass execution of serfs for disobedience.

[former soldier]

Quote: Sea Cat

HIMARS does not need a beacon.

It doesn't matter if you use the methods by which the enemy works. They are on the forehead, on the forehead.

[YarSer88]

Expected, although, I thought that they would create the appearance. They decided like this, completely wash their hands. Well, joke with them. Or did someone expect an objective investigation from them? Seriously?

[Sergey39]

These proved their particularity to all the deeds of Khokhlostana! (((

[SSR]

The whole shkodla, such as the OSCE, the UN, the MKK, needs to be reformatted, taken out from under the Anglo-Saxons.

[Turtle]

denazify the devils.

[Turtle]

When we pack the next batch of National Battists, these rats will not be allowed to the process.

[AIK05]

When we understand that all international organizations are the conductors of the ideas of the Anglo-Saxons, stop seeing them point-blank, they do not exist for us.

[Boycott]

When investigating, the main thing is not to go out on yourself. The ICRC realized that this was not possible.

[Hermit]

The Ukrainian side insisted that the prisoners be placed in Yelenovka ,,, the fool understood why, but our commanders are smart, that's why they agreed, now everyone got their benefit - the Ukrainians destroyed the traitors, ours have fewer problems, well, the prisoners too - there is no man and no he has problems.
We cannot understand the couch strategy of the high command worked out 7 moves ahead.

[avg avg]

Quote: Hermit

The Ukrainian side insisted that the prisoners be placed in Yelenovka

Can you provide a link to this Wishlist of Ukrainians?

[Hermit]

https://m.lenta.ru/news/2022/07/29/elenovka/

[Petr_Koldunov]

Who would doubt that...

[tolmachiev51]

Everyone will be rewarded according to their deserts - the Makhnovshchina "beat your own, so that the Muscovites would be afraid" !!! The power of bastards. All international organizations, like girls with low social responsibility, whoever pays more, is served.

[kig]

I'm starting to get a little annoyed by the occasional unnamed messages here. Anonymous comment on a certain event, express an opinion, but do not give a link to the resource from which the information under discussion was obtained. In this manner, it turns out that the OBS agency worked. I tried to search for the words ICRC is blocked from prison, red cross refused to participate in the investigation, Red Cross says it has not been granted and did not find anything specifically saying that CC refused to participate in the investigation. The Red Cross tweeted on July 31 that they need permission to access the camp from both parties, but they haven't received it yet. From whom exactly permission was not obtained is not specified. There is only general information on the KK website: they are aware of what happened, they offered help, and also "requested access to the victims in order to assess the state of health and the situation of all those who were present at the time of the attack." Since only this information is available on official resources, the rest can be considered fabrications: someone, somewhere, heard something.

It would be nice if the editors of VO somehow clarified this point.

[Dynamic systems]

The fascists cover the fascists!

[anclevalico]

Incomprehensible attempts one way or another to adapt to the Western system, to show that we are good. Maybe ask for forgiveness right now?

[svp67]

That's why they refused, because I know what to show up in the bodies of the dead. And it's not like you can't refute it

[AVESSALOM]

Why is no one surprised.

[Dedok]

Not the first time KK acts like a prostitute
this means that our attitude to QC should be based on this

[Yuri Siritsky_2]

They all dance to the tune of the Americans.

[mad big]

From you eat yard dogs!

[iouris]

Why invite spies and saboteurs under the guise of "international organizations" that have long compromised themselves, how will this help, and, most importantly, to whom?

[silviu]

Why did the International Committee of the Red Cross refuse the offer of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation? It is necessary to put up evidence - a written refusal or a conversation that for some reason they will not participate in them, believe us, they are occupiers and collect facts all over Ukraine

[Pravodel]

Not surprising...
All such organizations - ICC, OSCE, IMF, WB, OPCW, Olympic Committee, etc. were created by the west for the west. For everyone else, the entrance is paid and only with special permission. If these others misbehave, then no entry, complete inaction and opposition. An example is the OSCE - the transfer of the coordinates of the Donbass militia over the course of 8 years. Same with the MCC.

[Glagol1]

The ICRC is the same tool of the West as the WHO is used for the specific purposes of advancing their agenda. The nasty little people that work there are supposed to help the victims, but in fact...

[Anatoly Podurazhny]

Has it really not yet reached the leadership of the DPR, LPR that everything that happens with the participation of RUSSIA, whether it be a military operation, or humanitarian assistance to residents affected by this operation, NEVER
OFFSET WILL NOT GO FOR RUSSIA and ITS allies There will always be reasons for those who are against RUSSIA to justify them. Now, if RUSSIA had launched a missile strike, and even at night on the building where the prisoners of war were, then a commission consisting of (USA, HOLANDS, ENGLISH, GERMANS, BULGARIANS, FINNES, ITALIANS, GREEKS) and other, other hangers-on . America NATO. SO let RUSSIA send them all into the dark hollow. It's my opinion.

[avdkrd]

The ICC, for a long time, has been the same invested structure as Greenpeace and the OSCE. MCC serves only its own customers.