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Armand de Caulaincourt. Companion of Bonaparte and friend of Russia

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Armand de Caulaincourt. Companion of Bonaparte and friend of Russia



Armand Augustin Louis marquis de Caulaincourt was the son of a noble family who received the title of marquis in 1714. Some even attribute descent from the ancient Lusignan family to the Caulaincourts, the first of which is considered to be Hugh the Hunter, born in 929, a vassal of the Comte de Poitou. In the era of the Crusades, the older representatives of the Lusignan family remained in France, the younger ones went to Palestine, where they occupied a prominent position. Guy and Amori were kings of Jerusalem and Cyprus. Subsequently, the Lusignans owned Cyprus - until 1479, when this island was sold to Venice. Guy de Lusignan, son of Amalric, Lord of Tyre, was king of Armenia for two years (1342-1344). It is known that a certain Philippe de Caulaincourt was one of the close associates of Baudouin of Flanders, who, following the results of the IV Crusade, became the emperor of the Latin Empire. François-Armand, the first Marquis de Caulaincourt, was married to Françoise de Bethune, the great-granddaughter of the Duke of Sully, the famous minister of Henry IV of Navarre.

The Caulaincourt family


Armand-Augustin-Louis, the hero of our article, was born on December 9, 1773 in the castle of Caulaincourt, which is located on the territory of the modern department of Aisne. By birth, he was a marquis, but in 1808 Napoleon also awarded him the title of Duke of Vicenza (duc de Vicence), however, landless.


Armand Augustin Louis de Caulaincourt

His younger brother, divisional general Auguste Jean-Gabriel, who died on the Borodino field during the famous cavalry attack on the Rayevsky battery, became a count of the Bonaparte empire.


Louis Auguste Juvenal des Ursins d'Harville in a portrait by an unknown artist


The death of General Caulaincourt, a fragment of a lithograph by A. Adam

The title of count was also given to the father of these brothers - Louis Gabriel, 4th Marquis de Caulaincourt. Caulaincourt Sr. began his military service in the royal army. He took part in the Seven Years' War, became a knight of the Order of St. Louis, by 1788 he rose to the rank of field marshal (marechal-de-camp), which in republican and imperial France corresponded to the rank of brigadier general. Until 1792, Louis-Gabriel was the military governor of Artois, and then, on February 1 of the same year, he received the rank of lieutenant general from the new authorities and was appointed to the Northern Army. However, he failed to fight for the French Republic, because already in May he was dismissed as a former nobleman. He was able to return to public service on February 8, 1795. On November 5, 1803, Louis Gabriel received the Legion of Honor, and on February 1, 1805 he became a senator. Louis Gabriel Caulaincourt died on October 27, 1808, and on his deathbed he could rightfully consider that his life was a success.

The first years of the life of Armand de Caulaincourt


The Caulaincourt family could afford homeschooling their children, and the sons of the marquis received a very good education. However, Armand managed to study at the famous college of the city of La Flèche, founded by Henry IV. By that time, this school had already ceased to be a military educational institution, and medicine was also taught there. On January 13, 1788, the young aristocrat Armand de Caulaincourt (he was not yet 15 years old) entered the service of the foreign regiment of the royal cavalry (Royal-Etranger, created in 1659, in 1788 it was commanded by Theodore de Lamet - the uncle of our hero). Moreover, the son of the general and the nephew of the regiment commander began military service as a private. Compare this with the customs of the Russian aristocracy, when the boys of noble families were sometimes enrolled in regiments from the moment of birth, so that by the age of majority they were already officers. Even Alexander Suvorov, to whom, due to his sickness and frail physique, his father at first read civil service, in 1742 he was formally enrolled as a musketeer in the Semenovsky regiment, and by the beginning of his real service (in 1748), the future great commander was already a guards corporal. And the future Moscow Governor-General F. Rostopchin was enrolled in the Preobrazhensky Regiment at the age of 10 and, having never appeared in it, at the age of 17 he was promoted to ensign.

But back to the hero of our article. The first officer rank - the rank of second lieutenant, Armand Caulaincourt received after a year and a half of service - in November 1789. In 1791, he became his father's aide-de-camp, and then, in 1792, already a captain, he received a post on the staff of his uncle, the Earl Harville. At the same time, Armand joined the Masonic lodge La Cander, of which his father was also a member. The father and son Caulaincourt failed to take part in the battle of Zhemappe - they were dismissed as persons of suspicious origin. But Harville distinguished himself in this battle, then participated in the capture of Brussels and the siege of Namur. He will be arrested only after the flight of Dumouriez, but he was released at the request of Desmoulins. He would later become First Armourer of the Empress Josephine, Governor of the Louvre and the Tuileries, Count of the Empire and Peer of France.


Louis Auguste Juvénal des Ursins d'Harville in a portrait by an unknown artist

Armand de Caulaincourt in the French Republican Army


After the unfair resignation, Armand Caulaincourt did not emigrate from the country, but volunteered for the Paris National Guard on June 1, 1792. Only on August 24, 1793, he became a senior sergeant, on January 27, 1794 he was assigned to the 16th regiment of horse rangers, and in April of the same year, heading to the Western army of General Kleber, he was arrested. Armand Caulaincourt escaped from prison in Angers - only to re-enter the Republican army. After that, he fought against the Chouans as part of the army of Lazar Gosh. By March 1795, he had risen only to the rank of captain and the position of commander of a cavalry squadron. But in the same year, Armand Caulaincourt became the adjutant of General Aubert du Baie, the commander of the army of the coast of Cherbourg, who soon became minister of war for a short time, and then was sent on a diplomatic mission to Constantinople. Armand de Caulaincourt went with him. The future brilliant diplomat was then dissatisfied with his position, which he wrote about in letters to Harvill, complaining to him that he could not continue military service. Six months later he returned to Paris with the ambassador of Sultan Selim III. Having introduced him to the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Talleyrand (and having received the most flattering reviews from him), Caulaincourt again becomes the adjutant of General Harville, who at that time was the inspector of the cavalry units of the army of Meuse and Sambre. During the war of the Second Coalition, Caulaincourt was in turn part of the German, Mayenne and Rhine armies, participated in the battles of Stockach, near Wenheim (here he received two wounds, but remained in the ranks), at Nersheim and Moskirche. Caulaincourt was noticed by the authorities and quickly went from captain - squadron commander to colonel, having received command of the 2nd regiment of heavy carabinieri cavalry. In the main battle of that war, which General Moreau gave the Austrians at Hohenlinden, during the pursuit of the retreating enemy, the Caulaincourt regiment captured several thousand soldiers and officers, including 4 generals, as well as 14 artillery pieces.

First trip to Petersburg


In 1801, Armand de Caulaincourt, thanks to his knowledge of the Russian language and acquaintance with Talleyrand, was sent to St. Petersburg on the occasion of the signing of the Paris Peace Treaty between France and Russia (October 10), as well as to congratulate the new emperor, Alexander I, on his accession to the throne. At the royal court, Caulaincourt was to replace General Duroc. Sending a marquis from a “good family” to Russia, Talleyrand hinted that it was not the sans-culottes who ruled France now. In addition, Caulaincourt was not a parquet shambler, but a well-deserved military officer, which should have aroused genuine interest and respect among influential generals of the Russian Court. They well remembered the recent European exploits of Suvorov's army, and the painful defeat of Rimsky-Korsakov's corps from Massena in Switzerland, because of which Suvorov had to change plans and route of movement: instead of marching to France, his army was forced to break through to the territory of Austria. At the same time, Caulaincourt had not yet fought against the Russians - only against the Austrian army, which ruled out any personal claims. In general, his candidacy was ideal.

I must say that Caulaincourt himself reacted to this appointment without enthusiasm: he still wanted to continue military service. But, as the Greek Stoic philosopher Cleanthes said (and Seneca later repeated his words), “Destiny leads the desiring, drags the unwilling". It is this commission that will single out Armand Caulaincourt from the crowd of ordinary officers, draw the attention of the “powerful of this world” in Paris and St. Petersburg, and literally pull him to the forefront of the world stories.

The choice of Talleyrand was indeed a good one. Caulaincourt made the most favorable impression on everyone in St. Petersburg, and he, in turn, liked the Russian emperor and his entourage. Since then, Caulaincourt has become an active supporter of the idea of ​​​​a union of France and Russia, so that some historians later even accused him of "working for St. Petersburg."

Near Bonaparte


Returning from Russia, Armand de Caulaincourt on July 31, 1802 was appointed one of the eight adjutants of the First Consul Bonaparte. This was a sign of trust, because at different times the Corsican's adjutants were such "stars of the first magnitude" as Jean Rapp, Jacques Alexander Lauriston, Jean Andoche Junot, Gerard Duroc, Jean Marie Savary, Charles Lebrun and other famous generals.

At the end of August 1803, Caulaincourt received the rank of brigadier general and the order to create the 112th semi-brigade from the former soldiers of the Austrian Netherlands.


Fereol Bonnemaison. Portrait of Armand Caulaincourt dressed as the Grand Squire

On his return to Paris, he was appointed to the post of Inspector General of the Stables of the First Consul.


Herbert Knotel. Armand de Caulaincourt in the ceremonial uniform of the Grand Equestrian

For some time he commanded the 8th Cavalry Regiment of the Army of the Rhine.

The kidnapping of the Duke of Angien


On March 10, 1804, Armand Caulaincourt was sent to the Elector of Baden with a note demanding the dissolution of the emigrant military formations. However, his papers also included an order for the capture and delivery to Paris of Louis Antoine de Bourbon, Duke of Angien. This frivolous aristocrat literally ran into arrest himself, as he regularly crossed the border, visiting his mistress, whom he had taken in Strasbourg. The French officer and secret agent Karl Ludwig Schulmeister, who lived in Strasbourg as a trader in tobacco and colonial goods, kidnapped the duke's mistress and transported her to the French border town of Belfort. Having received a letter sent on behalf of his passion, the duke decided to release her by bribing the guards, but in Belfort the gendarmes were already waiting for him.


Charles Louis Schulmeister in a portrait by an unknown artist. Jean René Savary said of him to Bonaparte:Here is a man who consists entirely of a brain, but without a heart". It is claimed that thanks to Schulmeister's disinformation, General Mack's army did not leave Ulm in time and capitulated on October 20, 1805

The Duke of Anghien, as you know, was shot by a military court on March 21, 1804. But his mistress was released. The execution of the duke hastened the creation of a new, third in a row, anti-French coalition.

This story made a very difficult impression on Caulaincourt, and the royalists, until the end of his life, accused him of complicity in the kidnapping of the duke, which he always denied, claiming that he was used “in the dark”.

Career success of Armand de Caulaincourt


Meanwhile, the career of Armand Caulaincourt developed quite successfully, and after the proclamation of the empire, he received the title of Grand Squire (squire) of France. Under Bonaparte, it was the Grand Squire who was the head of the emperor's retinue, the manager of solemn ceremonies, and managed the imperial stables and communications service.


Fereol Bonnemaison. Portrait of Armand Caulaincourt dressed as the Grand Squire

February 1, 1805 Caulaincourt received the rank of division general, February 2 - the badge of the Great Eagle of the Order of the Legion of Honor.

However, there were also negative points: the beloved woman of Armand Caulaincourt, Andrienne-Herve-Louise de Carbonnel de Canisi, the maid of honor of the Empress Josephine, was removed from the Court after the divorce by order of Napoleon. Bonaparte did not want to hear about the marriage between her and Caulaincourt.

During the War of the Third Coalition, Caulaincourt served on the staff of the Grande Armée and is said to have shielded Napoleon from a cannonball on one occasion. But, since his injury is not reported, this core, apparently, was not intended for the emperor.

Return to St. Petersburg


After the Peace of Tilsit, Caulaincourt again received an order to go to Petersburg - this time already in the rank of ambassador plenipotentiary. At this time he was 34 years old. At the court of Alexander I, Caulaincourt replaced Jean Marie Savary. Already in Russia, he received the news that on June 7, 1808, Napoleon granted him the title of Duke of Vincenzo. And on September 25 of the same year, Caulaincourt was awarded the highest order of the Russian Empire - St. Andrew the First-Called.

In the Russian capital, Armand de Caulaincourt was received very warmly, for his accommodation Alexander I provided a huge palace of the Volkonsky princes, bought for a very significant amount of 340 thousand rubles. However, demonstrating a good personal attitude towards the French ambassador, Alexander I was preparing for a new war with Bonaparte. In his post, Caulaincourt tried to smooth out the contradictions that were growing in relations between the two empires, and made great efforts to organize the marriage of Napoleon with one of the sisters of Alexander I - Catherine or Anna. Family relations for the Corsican Bonaparte meant a lot: if this marriage could be organized, it is likely that Russia would have been able to avoid the war of 1812. Unfortunately, the petty vindictiveness of Alexander I, who could not forgive Bonaparte for his hint of participating in parricide, and the class arrogance of his mother Maria Feodorovna, who did not consider the French emperor equal to her daughters, prevailed over considerations of state expediency. The Austrian Habsburgs, who always looked down on the Romanovs, were not like that: consent to the marriage of Napoleon with Maria Louise followed immediately.

Meanwhile, the pro-Russian sympathies of Armand Caulaincourt began to annoy Napoleon, and in May 1811 he was replaced in St. Petersburg by a new ambassador, Jacques Alexander Lot de Lauriston.

A year later, in Vilna, in the presence of the Russian parliamentarian A. Balashov, Caulaincourt will sharply declare to Bonaparte:

“I am more French than those who, hoping to please you, incited this war. And I am proud that I am against this war and have done everything to prevent it.”

He was right: this war became the prologue to the death of Napoleon's empire and brought great disasters to the Russian people. The foreign campaign of the Russian army that followed it turned out to be ruinous, and the victory did not bring Russia any benefits.

After this conversation, the emperor cooled considerably towards Caulaincourt and did not even express sympathy for him in connection with the heroic death of his younger brother in the battle of Borodino.


Badge of the Order of Reunification established by Napoleon in 1811, found on the Borodino field in 2012. It has been established that it could only belong to the divisional general Augustin Jean-Gabriel de Caulaincourt

However, on December 5, 1812, Napoleon, who left his army, chose Caulaincourt as his companion. In April 1813, Caulaincourt became a senator. Later, for some time, he acted as Marshal of the Court and negotiated with the Allies, which ended with the signing of the Pleiswitz Armistice on June 4, 1813.

On November 20 of the same year, Caulaincourt was appointed Minister of Foreign Affairs. During the congress in Chaityon (February 5 - March 19, 1814), he advocated concessions to the allies on the issue of the natural borders of France, but Napoleon, who won several victories, refused the agreement. After the capitulation of Paris, it was Caulaincourt who put forward the proposal for the regency of Marie-Louise. Then he and Macdonald signed the Treaty of Fontainebleau granting the island of Elba to the abdicated emperor. After Napoleon's departure from Paris, Caulaincourt finally married Adrienne de Canissy.


Adrienne de Carbonnel de Canis in a portrait by François Gerard, 1824

The wedding took place on May 24, 1814, two boys were born in this marriage.

Thanks to good relations with Alexander I, Caulaincourt escaped reprisals after the restoration of the Bourbons, but was obstructed as one of the most devoted supporters of Bonaparte and an alleged participant in the kidnapping of the Duke of Angien. Not surprisingly, he supported Napoleon during his "Hundred Days" by once again taking over as Foreign Minister. After the second return of the Bourbons, his name was included in the list of people to be arrested compiled by Fouche, but was deleted from it after the intervention of Alexander I. After that, Caulaincourt did not hold any government posts, but wrote famous memoirs that serve as a valuable source of information about Bonaparte and the Epoch Napoleonic Wars. Oddly enough, the full text of Caulaincourt's memoirs was published only in 1933 - under the title "With Napoleon in Russia". And in our country, the full text of these memoirs was never translated and published.

Armand de Caulaincourt died in Paris on February 19, 1827 at the age of 53. His grave can be seen in the Père Lachaise cemetery.
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  1. Phil77
    Phil77 30 July 2022 04: 32
    +4
    "He died at 53." What a young man, he would live and live. bully
    Valery! Thank you for the article!
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 30 July 2022 04: 40
      +6
      I'm afraid to make a mistake, but it was the younger brother who commanded the cuirassiers? In the battle of Borodino? No?
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 30 July 2022 05: 13
        +6
        Good morning everyone!
        Sometimes I think that nature definitely did not plan the “life” of a person for more than 30-35 years. Your teeth, evolution renews once in a lifetime. So 53 is also an achievement, for 40 bristles and yesterday for those who exchanged their sixth decade. Everything is known in comparison, well, or by the state of mind (the glass is half full or half empty)!
        Thank you Valery, I was honestly afraid of information hunger in the rubric
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 30 July 2022 05: 20
          +8
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          neither. So 53 is also an achievement, for 40 bristles and yesterday for those who exchanged their sixth decade. Everything is known in comparison, well, or by the state of mind (the glass is half full or half empty)!

          Yes, the devil knows, huh? At heart 20, and in the passport - 59. A riddle?
          Is it really worth the age?
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 30 July 2022 06: 11
            +5
            Well, if not women! laughing
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 30 July 2022 09: 07
              +4
              Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Well, if not women! laughing

              Well, sort of. In general. laughing
          2. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 30 July 2022 09: 33
            +8
            "You're still a strong old man, Rosenbom!" (C)
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 30 July 2022 09: 53
              +6
              "If you lean me in a dry corner and against a warm wall" (c), it seems to be from Raikin, as far as I remember. smile
              If anything, I first of all had myself, good, and had in mind. drinks
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 30 July 2022 10: 12
                +5
                What I quoted is from Selma Lagerlöf, "Niels Travels with Wild Geese".
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 30 July 2022 10: 52
                  +2
                  "Alas, this one did not read the novel" (c) request
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 30 July 2022 10: 59
                    +11
                    Damn, Uncle Kostya, well, at least look at the cartoon, or something! Wonderful Soviet cartoon! It won't make you sick.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 30 July 2022 11: 38
                      +5
                      If I switch to cartoons, I will finally fall into childhood. laughing

                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 11: 50
                        +5
                        You won't fall.
                        I still have an open question: how did you raise your son if you didn’t read fairy tales to him? (Forgive me for being direct and frank, but who else will ask besides me?)
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 12: 12
                        +4
                        I started right away with Captain Blood's Odyssey and then built up. And I read fairy tales to my daughter. smile
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 12: 26
                        +4
                        "Severe men play jazz" (C) ...
                      4. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 12: 40
                        +4
                        "Severe men play jazz" (C) ...


                      5. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 12: 46
                        +4
                        They say we're like...
                      6. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 13: 10
                        +6
                        Yes, there are similarities. But, as they say, mustaches and glasses always remind someone. Do you remember the film "The Secret of Two Oceans", where this phrase was uttered by a bad man mechanical engineer Gorelov.
                      7. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 13: 15
                        +4
                        Usually confused with Shevchuk, a month doesn't pass without something like that. But the comparison with Clapton, moreover, made by the old investigator of the prosecutor's office (and he understands people!), I was flattered.
                      8. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 13: 36
                        +4
                        As for Shevchuk, I would not say you are too intelligent for this. I don't know Clapton.
                        I was only once confused with someone, sitting in the garden, in the private sector of Sevastopol, drinking wine, of course. And a local man, twenty years older than me, looked at my face for a long time, and then, embarrassed by something, asked: “Kost, have you acted in films?” I told him no, because I always ran away from the camera when they were filming in our museum, in fig.
                      9. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 13: 41
                        +5
                        you are too smart for that.
                        Just spit in the soul!)))
                      10. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 13: 49
                        +5
                        Oh stop it!
                        Yura is excellent! I like it very much!
                      11. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 13: 56
                        +6
                        Serega, there is a stage image, and there is a person "in life". I crossed paths with him a couple of times, not the most pleasant impression ...
                      12. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 14: 07
                        +4
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        pleasant impression...

                        Damn sorry if that's the case. But! I don't want exposure. Perhaps he had something "wrong" in those moments?
                      13. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 14: 12
                        +4
                        You know, at one time I worked at "Alexandrinka" and saw a lot of people "live", behind the scenes, there is someone to compare with.
                      14. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 14: 29
                        +4
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        there is someone to compare.

                        Anton! Well, you're right. Yes, we are all people. And? There are bad moments.
                      15. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 14: 33
                        +4
                        Do you know such a person - Alexander Galibin?
                      16. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 14: 10
                        +4
                        "Father Fyodor spat and also hit" (c)))))
                      17. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 14: 15
                        +4
                        "An owl flew by. I spat at it. I hit it, by the way. (C)
                      18. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 14: 29
                        +4
                        Hogbens are love for life. smile

                      19. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 14: 32
                        +3
                        Hogbens are love for life.
                        Oh yeah!!!
                      20. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 13: 42
                        +7
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        I would not say Shevchuk, you are too intelligent for that. BUT

                        Don't touch Shevchuk. Don't. The songs are good. don't lick. Don't, huh?
                      21. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 14: 12
                        +3
                        Seryozha, I don't give a damn about them - Shevchuks, Bondarchuks and other Magomaevs. They have their own lives, I have mine, and they don't overlap.
                      22. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 14: 25
                        +4
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Shevchuks

                        I don't. But *DDT* I listen with pleasure. I'm sorry.
                      23. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 14: 30
                        +4
                        Seryozha, don't apologize, there's nothing. smile drinks
                      24. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 14: 33
                        +5
                        Buddy! I respect all points of view, but? He is respected by me. Was he in Chechnya, supported our guys there? Yes. Didn't accept this "special operation"?
                        And I note that the truth comes from him. Who and how accepts it? This is a question. But! I like and believe.
                      25. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 15: 05
                        +2
                        Yes, I really argue with you, I like it and it's great. As for the truth, few people know it, and we will not know it soon, if at all.
                        Okay, buddy, let's close the topic, the people don't need it. smile
                      26. man
                        man 31 July 2022 05: 36
                        +2
                        Seryozha, I don't give a damn about them - Shevchuks, Bondarchuks and other Magomaevs. They have their own lives, I have mine, and they don't overlap.
                        Magomayev actually died 14 years ago. In vain you are talking about the deceased. Better listen, you are Marine, just in time for the Navy Day:
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs4AlJyeIaE
                      27. man
                        man 31 July 2022 06: 20
                        +1
                        I don't know Clapton.
                        And in vain:
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPj3GAYYZ0
                      28. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 17: 58
                        +4
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        But the comparison with Clapton, moreover, made by the old investigator of the prosecutor's office (and he understands people!), I was flattered.

                        Leila
                        Cuming he may nis
                        No, not a fig, not Shevchuk
                      29. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 18: 02
                        +3
                        No, not a fig, not Shevchuk
                        Oh yeah! Shevchuk is not even close!
                      30. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 18: 07
                        +2
                        Shevchuk St. Petersburg?
                      31. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 18: 09
                        +3
                        Initially - no, like me.
                      32. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 18: 16
                        +2
                        But, now it belongs, rather, to the St. Petersburg underground. Rosenbaum, judging by the last interview with Sobchak, to the neo-conformists)).
                      33. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 18: 13
                        +2
                        Here, in general, local units. I, in thirty years of living in this city, met only five of them.
                      34. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 1 August 2022 10: 37
                        +1
                        No, not a fig, not Shevchuk

                        Albert, even if you translate Alice Cooper, there will be a text by Stas Mikhailov ... And not even Yuri Loza! laughing
                      35. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 2 August 2022 00: 01
                        +1
                        Uh-huh, your poison
                        Stas Mikhailov doesn't talk about poison, Stas Mikhailov is all about flowers, stamens, petals... you'd better tell me, do you want to earn a piece of Baku money, romantic? laughing
                      36. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 17: 57
                        +5
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        I started right away with Captain Blood's Odyssey and then built up. And I read fairy tales to my daughter.

                        And I will start with How the Steel Was Tempered and by the age of 15 I will finish Salo or 120 days of Sadoma hi
                      37. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 18: 07
                        +2
                        "How steel was tempered" - complete crap!
                      38. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 18: 15
                        +3
                        But the Marquis de Sade is quite interesting))
                        I wonder if his works will be banned in Russia or not))
                      39. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 18: 22
                        +4
                        They won't ban him, he practiced with the opposite sex. By the way, with their consent. And this is not condemned by the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
                      40. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 18: 28
                        +3
                        What about the age of the opposite sex? ))
                      41. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 18: 50
                        +4
                        It's impossible the BDSM community won't allow it!!! angry

                      42. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 19: 08
                        +2
                        Do we have this? )))
                      43. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 19: 35
                        +3
                        "Greece has everything!" (c) We have it all the more !!! laughing
                      44. Fat
                        Fat 30 July 2022 18: 51
                        +2
                        I agree with Anton here. True, the last time I read its reissues from "serious players" was in 1995. Not so much it shocks morality and morality, more often it causes rejection. There are more things on the net, ahem, you can’t even choose the right epithet. Let's say more interesting.
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        "How steel was tempered" - complete crap!

                        They ordered me to read it according to the program, and I read it.
                        No strong impressions, quite ordinary, even in the trends of the times, did not cause. I got confused to read another from this author (N. Ostrovsky, "Born by the Storm"), did not master it, got bored ... recourse
                      45. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 19: 10
                        +3
                        Paustovsky has strong works.
                        Great as a sleeping pill good
                      46. Fat
                        Fat 30 July 2022 19: 48
                        +2
                        hi At the age of 95, I had one regular leaflet-buyer. He kept looking at us. The point was in the house "Science and Technology" in the lobby, And then, on the 1st floor - MMM to the left and "Khoper-Invest" to the right ...
                        He used to say: "I love" with a hangover "to read amusing" ...
                        And then, when I was already preparing to leave Izhevsk, in a strip club, where our company accidentally got in the middle of the night to drink coffee, as a dancer, this philosopher, I saw, can you imagine my surprise?
                        Greetings Albert.
                      47. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 21: 10
                        +2
                        Hello, what surprised you so much? )). hi
                        Work is one thing, craving for beauty is another laughing laughing
                      48. Fat
                        Fat 30 July 2022 21: 30
                        +2
                        hi No need for YOU, we have known each other for a long time.
                        I was more and more surprised by his choice of literature for "hangover reading" and his artistry in seducing old girls.
                        More precisely, a wild run-up of requests for the soul and profession. The contrast between a lively mind and a profession, I don’t presume to condemn, everyone chose what was available, however, those other participants in such shows (met) were categorically not “readers”. I didn’t get to know him, it was just always interesting to discuss novelties from our writers with him, and, excuse me, even a guide to old recipes could be coughed up.
                      49. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 21: 58
                        +2
                        Trained the mind with taste for a serious relationship in the hope of finding a "sponsor of my life."
                      50. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 18: 20
                        +4
                        Well, the fact that you are an anti-Soviet has been known to everyone for so long. laughing
                        However, I also did not like this book and its author, just as I do not like any fanatic.
                        Long live Tatra!!! Zig heil! wassat
                      51. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 18: 29
                        +3
                        Above the mustache, brother, Tatra, above the mustache!
                      52. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 18: 36
                        +1
                        I am not an anti-Soviet, I am an ardent supporter of the organization of labor, because I work with my hands. As it is described in this book, in other words, as "complete crap", I can not express myself.
                      53. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 18: 23
                        +4
                        Full speed ahead, what else to expect from you, damned Zionist! wassat bully
                      54. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 18: 32
                        +3
                        We wash with water from the Mississippi, remembering the streams of Indian corpses, hands stained up to the elbows with the blood of Palestinians, Syrians, Lebanese and other Hitler lovers negative
                      55. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 18: 45
                        +2
                        The Volga is also a full-flowing river ... request

                        PS Where is Tatra, has she come down with covid?
                      56. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 18: 48
                        +3
                        Tatra is always alive
                        Tatra is always with me
                        In grief, hope and joy
                        Tatra is always with me fellow fellow
                      57. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 18: 58
                        +3
                        One Tatra-rin, stand in two lines !!! soldier
                      58. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 19: 12
                        +2
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        One Tatra-rin, stand in two lines!

                        Tatra Kielmand? what
                      59. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 19: 42
                        +3
                        Tatra Kielmand?


                        Sin ala karga! wassat
                      60. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 18: 42
                        +4
                        Hey, uncle, be careful with my future father-in-law! I still have to carry him on a stretcher, around the sandbox where his great-grandchildren are busy.)))
                      61. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 18: 56
                        +3
                        Aaaaa ... and here they have already divorced nepotism! negative

                        I don’t want to live to see the moment when sand will pour out of me into that sandbox. laughing drinks
                      62. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 19: 04
                        +3
                        It's funny, of course, but I know most of you personally, although many of you by phone, but this is only my merit!
                        And Colin, in no small measure!
                      63. Fat
                        Fat 30 July 2022 19: 13
                        +3
                        Yes, Anton, in my case - your merit is completely.
                        Thank you.
                      64. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 19: 15
                        +3
                        Thanks, Borisych!!! At least someone appreciates it!
                      65. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 19: 37
                        +1
                        Maybe it's funny, but for me it's just great, and you are also familiar with my Masha. smile
                      66. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 20: 42
                        +2
                        With Masha, uncle, I communicate in real life, more often than with you. This is not a reason for jealousy (this remark does not apply to you or Mary, just a way to stop further insinuations).
                        I'm interested in talking to smart women! I hope you keep this momentum going.
                      67. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 21: 06
                        +3
                        Of course I support it, I love Pushkin, but I do not like the meaning that some individuals put into the immortal line: "souls are wonderful impulses." And in general, I do not like to strangle someone and engage in other assaults. smile
                      68. Fat
                        Fat 30 July 2022 19: 11
                        +2
                        It's time to add sour to vodka and cognac more often, so that the sand does not accumulate ...
                        It is a pity that long runs are not available to me. But gastritis is still unknown. laughing drinks
                      69. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 19: 41
                        +3
                        It's time to add sour to vodka and cognac more often,


                        And so it has already shrunk to the most I can’t, soon I’ll switch to one water in general. drinks
                        And my health is not very good. It breaks the paws, then the tail falls off.
                        And the other day I started shedding.
                        sad
                      70. Fat
                        Fat 31 July 2022 05: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        And the other day I started shedding.

                        And something more and more often you check sharpening on a broadsword and the presence of cartridges in revolvers and cartridges in spare magazines ?, Yes, Konstantin is old age, when a solution of pure spring water with negligible (from 38 to 40 according to the patent) in pure alcohol made according to the recipes of Belarusian partisans " Without using No inorganic elements... seems to be something unhealthy
                        Damn, how I wanted to insert a word about the "miracle" of dried chicken manure .... oh .... This is advertising. more on that later laughing
                      71. Catfish
                        Catfish 31 July 2022 16: 15
                        +2
                        Availability of ....... cartridges in spare magazines?


                        With the presence of cartridges in full order smile

                        I wanted to insert a word about the "miracle" of dried chicken manure ....


                        But with this problem, since the chickens have already ended. laughing



                        Hi Andrew! hi
                      72. Fat
                        Fat 31 July 2022 17: 50
                        +2
                        hi Good day to the Navy and to you and me! Can't get in contact with Anthony. I really hope that I was worried in vain, we had a conversation, almost planned ... I have his contact, but everything is inert. We talked to him at the beginning of the day and everything was normal. I don't like this arrangement. In a few hours I will already begin to worry, and then the lead in the copper shell in the chicken meat from the trunk (table) of your cat will definitely move away from the foreground.
                        I'm the best and closest Blinken recourse drinks
                      73. Catfish
                        Catfish 31 July 2022 18: 17
                        +1
                        Do you have his phone or email?
                      74. Fat
                        Fat 31 July 2022 18: 54
                        +2
                        I'll send it to you personally. I strained Seryoga. God! what a joy it will be if he just crouched on the chest of his beloved and
                        disconnected...
                      75. Catfish
                        Catfish 31 July 2022 19: 13
                        +2
                        Don't worry so much, Anton is a young strong man, I'm sure that everything is in order with him. Women... wink
                      76. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 31 July 2022 20: 25
                        0
                        Intelligence reports that Anton was on WhatsApp today at 20-20.
                      77. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 19: 13
                        +3
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Hey, uncle, be careful with my future father-in-law!

                        Rather, father-in-law lol
                      78. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 19: 20
                        +4
                        Became interesting! You showed up an unmarried sister of our years?
                      79. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 21: 03
                        +2
                        No )))
                        Since when did women of our age become interested in you?
                      80. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 21: 18
                        +1
                        They have always interested me.
                        These are the girls we admired at prom. Yes, many have gone astray, we are not getting any younger either. But some have kept both face and figure!
                      81. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 21: 54
                        +1
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        But some have kept both face and figure!

                        Hundreds of thousands of women turn 18 every year in Russia))
                      82. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 11: 56
                        +4
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        If I switch to cartoons

                        This cartoon is worth watching Right!
                      83. The comment was deleted.
                2. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 30 July 2022 20: 07
                  +1
                  Outstanding book. And in general, Selma Lagerlöf is a serious writer. True, sometimes with a bias in mysticism.
              2. vladcub
                vladcub 30 July 2022 11: 15
                +4
                "If you lean me against a warm wall, then you can still be with me" - Arkady Raikin
                Kostya, hello
            2. vladcub
              vladcub 30 July 2022 11: 20
              +5
              Anton, greetings: "you are still a strong old man" by analogy with a strong old man, I remembered
              "Old man, Yakov. Did you make up the canals for this?" (With)
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 30 July 2022 11: 31
                +3
                Quote: vladcub
                old man, Jacob. For the sake of this, did you make up the channels?" (c)

                And this is already from the story of Gaidar! The real one! Well, damn it, it was such a time!
                *The fate of the drummer*.
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 30 July 2022 11: 46
                  +4
                  By the way, interesting work! It mentions for the first time political prisoners in the USSR, I note, even before the war.
                  1. ycuce234-san
                    ycuce234-san 30 July 2022 16: 45
                    +3
                    In those days, the main media channels were different - the printed word and radio. Therefore, statistics played against it, and if it were not for the prototype story from the field of the printed word, then the probability would be even lower.
                    It's like using a rare niche channel of information now - for example, news virtual worlds and VR-glasses: not everything seeps there from everyday life either.
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 30 July 2022 16: 56
                      +3
                      Interesting idea, colleague! Are you saying that those who chat in "tanks" do not know the cost of gas in Europe?
                      1. ycuce234-san
                        ycuce234-san 30 July 2022 17: 37
                        +3
                        Some may not know - the likelihood that a native Malay or Andean Indian is interested in this is small. The game is available worldwide.
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 17: 54
                        +3
                        Some may not know - the likelihood that a native Malay or Andean Indian is interested in this is small. The game is available worldwide.
                        It is truth too! Moreover, the Andean Indians are the last to be interested in gas prices in Europe. I cooperate in some way with Ecuador and am somewhat aware of the circumstances there.
                2. vladcub
                  vladcub 30 July 2022 12: 19
                  +4
                  Hello, absolutely right. Remember more. And not everyone remembers.
                  Once, at a bus stop, we got into a conversation with a peasant, and I quoted him something from Gaidar. He looked at me like a ram: I forgot such a writer!
              2. Catfish
                Catfish 30 July 2022 11: 31
                +3
                Is that why you made up the canals?"


                "And waved the Chapaev saber" (c) laughing

                Hello, Glory! smile
                1. vladcub
                  vladcub 30 July 2022 12: 24
                  +3
                  Greetings. Gaidar did not mention Chapai.
                  By the way, maybe, I forgot, but Gaidar does not mention the heroes of the Civil War. I don't remember anyone
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 30 July 2022 12: 37
                    +3
                    I remembered from the film, there was about a checker. smile
                    1. vladcub
                      vladcub 30 July 2022 14: 45
                      +2
                      I don't remember. What screening? Was it 2?
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 14: 51
                        +1
                        First film adaptation, 1955.

                      2. vladcub
                        vladcub 30 July 2022 16: 20
                        +2
                        Will have to search
              3. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 30 July 2022 11: 32
                +2
                Hello, Glory!
                He didn’t rattle with shackles, but the pre-trial detention center was sitting.
                1. vladcub
                  vladcub 30 July 2022 12: 25
                  +3
                  Greetings, who are you talking about Sizo!?
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 30 July 2022 12: 30
                    +2
                    About myself, of course.
                2. Catfish
                  Catfish 30 July 2022 17: 22
                  +3
                  "We burned down due to a misunderstanding, he sat down for embezzlement, and I for Xenia" (c)

                  1. Fat
                    Fat 30 July 2022 17: 35
                    +3
                    hi Konstantin. For those who have not forgotten Czechoslovakia of the 69th.
                    Three people are sitting in a monkey house, talking. One suddenly decided to find out who, and what, asks:
                    - You for what?
                    For Gomulka!
                    - Why, but me, because I was against Gomulka ...
                    Third, sigh
                    - And I am - Gomulka.
                    Somehow I don't want to smile...
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 30 July 2022 17: 52
                      +3
                      For those who have not forgotten Czechoslovakia of the 69th.


                      How can you forget ... We were standing at the Amur itself. In the morning they drove the regiment to the parade ground, everyone, even the governors - Everyone stand at ease and wait, there will be a government message, and our signalmen are pulling wires to the loudspeakers. A rustle went through the regiment: "That's it, star, the war with China and we were the first to get stuck."
                      But then the swearers coughed and it sounded - "Czechoslovakia" - everyone felt better.
                    2. Aviator_
                      Aviator_ 30 July 2022 19: 26
                      +4
                      For those who have not forgotten Czechoslovakia of the 69th.
                      Andrei, you seem to have qualitatively forgotten that time. Gomulka is the chief Pole from 1956 to 1970. And in the joke about Czechoslovakia, Dubcek is there. And in general, Czechoslovakia is August 1968, and Damansky Island and conflicts with China began in March 1969.
                      1. Fat
                        Fat 31 July 2022 00: 41
                        +1
                        As the elders (more precisely, my father) told me the story, I passed it on. What facts would not have surfaced in terms of correspondence to reality (more precisely, Wikipedia, especially in terms of the history of the 20th century) did not appear. I don't trust Wick's "supernova" information. But I quite reasonably associate these events with the results of the 6-day war: Gomulka's quirks (with the alleged persecution of Jews) and the liberal (according to Andropov) Dubcek's demarche ...
                        In addition, in 1969 I was completely removed under the table smile
                        PS I just know "poor quality"
                        Thanks for the correction, although it didn't work. After all, Gomulka was actually arrested, although ten years earlier. And what happened to Dubcek, I do not know at all.
                        PS Qualitatively We will find out everything, only in the foreseeable future or if ... if the archives suddenly pop up.
                        With respect.
                        PPP Good point .... And by the way, Konstantin did not mention Damansky at all. There, the "hot" situation has been observed not since March 1969 and not only on the island ...
                        With respect.
                      2. Aviator_
                        Aviator_ 31 July 2022 09: 09
                        +1
                        In addition, in 1969 I was completely removed under the table
                        At that time, I was quite successfully studying in the 6th grade and all the events were, as they say, in front of my eyes. The 6-day war is generally 67 years. These three years (67, 68, 69) were generally very turbulent in the world. And Dubcek (Czech Grobi of the image of 1968), after the introduction of our troops, sat down for a short while, then they pushed it somewhere. Gomulka (Polish Khrushchev) sat down in 1956 before the overthrow of Bierut, then climbed into his place. In Hungary, Janos Kadar also had similar problems at this time.
                  2. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 30 July 2022 17: 36
                    +1
                    If. 228 article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 30 July 2022 17: 47
                      +2
                      I have a mechanic almost every day in the summer: "Commander, I'm at the plantation, I'll be back in an hour." He was never late and the driver was good, although he himself was two inches from the pot. We have some Shaybils and no one touched them. I tried it and did not like it, I remained faithful to normal tobacco.
                      And how are you stuck?
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 17: 57
                        +4
                        And how are you stuck?
                        You, uncle, do you really want to know the whole truth about "my Komsomol youth"?
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 30 July 2022 18: 15
                        +3
                        Interesting, I will not hide. smile After all, my stigma is down, but I managed to avoid the bunk bed. But, if we talk about it, then just not here.
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 18: 19
                        +2
                        But, if we talk about it, then just not here.
                        Here I am about it. The fact from the biography should not be hushed up, but the circumstances are not for extra ears.
            3. man
              man 31 July 2022 05: 51
              +2
              "You're still a strong old man, Rosenbom!" (C)
              Oh great cartoon! good
              "When the king bares his head, and you remained in the hat" smile
        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 30 July 2022 09: 32
          +6
          Your teeth, evolution renews once in a lifetime.
          Sharks are more fortunate in this sense.
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 30 July 2022 10: 13
            +4
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Your teeth, evolution renews once in a lifetime.

            Damn! Teeth!!!! Hearing updated, vision? Tomorrow! Teeth!!! Expensive, damn it! Oh, okay! It will heal before the wedding! laughing
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 30 July 2022 10: 25
              +5
              This world is not getting better. And we are with him.
              1. Fat
                Fat 30 July 2022 18: 17
                +3
                Closer and closer to the cyborgs. For 10-15 years, we can no longer imagine ourselves without a quality connection. A person has ceased to be just a "grain of sand", having the opportunity to become a "pearl", but, on the other hand, the opportunity to become a "public star" has increased many times over. That is why the number of Herostratus and Lysistratus will never decrease.
        3. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 30 July 2022 11: 16
          +2
          Sometimes I think that nature definitely did not plan the “life” of a person for more than 30-35 years.
          Yes shazzzz!
          I can give you examples from the "gloomy" High Middle Ages to the very "I don't want to"!
        4. dzvero
          dzvero 30 July 2022 12: 49
          +3
          Sometimes I think that nature definitely did not plan the “life” of a person for more than 30-35 years.

          There is such. Mammals have "programmed" 1 to 2 billion heart beats. We "cheated" and staked out the upper limit and even a little more - 2.2 billion, i.e. ~70 years. At the ends of chromosomes, there is actually a reserve somewhere for 120-150 years. But in real life, a lot of things are mixed and it turns out that to each his own. In vain, perhaps the ancients appointed as many as three spinners of souls.
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 30 July 2022 11: 09
      +2
      "live and live" see the Lord decided otherwise
  2. Korsar4
    Korsar4 30 July 2022 04: 46
    +5
    Thank you, Valery!

    With what only ancient families were not connected. Even with such an interesting formation as Cilician Armenia.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 30 July 2022 04: 52
      +5
      Quote: Korsar4
      With what only ancient families were not connected. Even with such an interesting formation as Cilician Armenia.

      However. Then there were bandits gently turning into aristocrats. Well ... we are not like that. Life is like that. laughing
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 30 July 2022 05: 20
        +5
        Quote: Phil77
        Quote: Korsar4
        With what only ancient families were not connected. Even with such an interesting formation as Cilician Armenia.

        However. Then there were bandits gently turning into aristocrats. Well ... we are not like that. Life is like that. laughing

        Moreover, they hid the fact that their great-grandfather rose to the counts by gangster fishing, well, or by poaching as the first of a kind of hero!
        By the way, there were no bandits under Caulaincourt's ancestor! The first gangs were almost half a millennium away! What a pun!!!
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 30 July 2022 05: 27
          +4
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          the first of a kind hero!
          By the way, there were no bandits under Caulaincourt's ancestor! The first gangs were almost half a millennium away! What a pun!!!

          Hmm! Well, what were they doing?
          Good morning Vyacheslav!
          1. depressant
            depressant 30 July 2022 06: 59
            +5
            Actually, our Pane is Vladislav ... No?)))
            The article helped to understand why many Armenians have a surname ending in "-yan". It turns out that one of the ancestors of Caulaincourt was listed
            Guy de Lusignan, son of Amalric, lord of Tyre, [who] was king of Armenia for two years (1342-1344).

            Good morning everybody! )))
            1. Fat
              Fat 30 July 2022 08: 19
              +6
              Quote: depressant
              Actually, our Pane is Vladislav ... No?)))

              No. Pane Kohanku - Nikolay. And Vladislav - Kote pan Kokhanku. smile
              Good morning, Lyudmila.
              1. depressant
                depressant 30 July 2022 08: 52
                +6
                Good morning, Andrei Borisovich!)))
                No. Pane Kohanku - Nikolay.

                And this is how I perceive reality now.
                Here is the notebook in front of me. Knowing for a long time what someone's name is, I always open it before answering anyone, so that God forbid I don't mix up the names. Opened now. Written:
                Pane Kohanku -- Nikolay
                Kote pane Kohanku -- Vladislav
                But it so happened that this time both of them were perceived by me as gentlemen. And not so that one pan is a robber, and the second is his cat.
                Not everyone is given to endure reality, clearly following the chosen line of attention. You involuntarily jump to other possibilities, sometimes flopping into a puddle at the same time.
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 30 July 2022 09: 54
                  +4
                  Quote: depressant
                  Pane Kohanku -- Nikolay
                  Kote pane Kohanku -- Vladislav
                  But it so happened that this time both of them were perceived by me as gentlemen. And not so that one pan is a robber, and the second is his cat.

                  Oh! Everything is much worse. Only one colonel for now / when will they give him a general ??? Talk to the general! Dream! / Second? Nikolai? We are twin brothers with him! laughing
                  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                    Kote Pan Kokhanka 30 July 2022 10: 56
                    +5
                    I don't want to be a general anymore!
                    According to Nicholas - he is correct !!! This is probably his most accurate assessment.
                    1. Phil77
                      Phil77 30 July 2022 11: 33
                      +4
                      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                      I don't want to be a general anymore!

                      I must! I agree with Nikolai's assessment. He is good !!!!
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 12: 07
                        +4
                        Funny, comrades! You are trying to evaluate a person without knowing him personally...
                      2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                        Kote Pan Kokhanka 30 July 2022 17: 26
                        +4
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Funny, comrades! You are trying to evaluate a person without knowing him personally...

                        We don’t know you personally either, but we are even ready to tolerate a dog owner in the cat kingdom !!! laughing
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 17: 43
                        +3
                        Many know personally. And you, comrade colonel, will never get to St. Petersburg to get to know each other. Linniki already got from Komsomolsk-on-Amur! You should be ashamed, Comrade Colonel...
                    2. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 30 July 2022 12: 05
                      +4
                      I don't want to be a general anymore!
                      And you have to! We want!)))
              2. Phil77
                Phil77 30 July 2022 08: 57
                +6
                Quote: Thick

                No. Pane Kohanku - Nikolay. And Vladislav - Kote pan Kokhanku.
                Good morning, Lyudmila

                In short. Guilty. Confused. Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
                1. depressant
                  depressant 30 July 2022 09: 23
                  +6
                  In short. Guilty. Beguiled.

                  Come on, Sergey Vladimirovich! Who now has an adequate perception of reality? )))
                  Having wandered through various telegrams, having heard a lot of "Hurrah!", "Down!", having plunged into the transcendental bias, the flows of transcendent anger and no less transcendent euphoria, skillfully created by the owners of the channels, I return to a quiet native harbor, where I can accurately assess what is happening now in an allegorical form . Or you can not evaluate, focusing spiritual impulses within the sweet old time. I will say this: "Everything is fine, beautiful marquise!" (C)
            2. Phil77
              Phil77 30 July 2022 09: 03
              +5
              Quote: depressant
              Guy de Lusignan

              Well, right! The most important Armenian is d'Artananyan! Kanalya! Artanyan! In second place is Frunzik Mkrtchyan! No? laughing
              1. depressant
                depressant 30 July 2022 09: 30
                +4
                The most important Armenian is d'Artagnan! Kanaglia! Artagnan! On the second...

                Or maybe "Lusignan" was actually "Lusigne" at first? The Armenians were originally on "yan". And he - to please them.
                And here, go figure it out! wassat )))
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 30 July 2022 10: 00
                  +4
                  Is this one? Only familiar from "Promised Heaven". Cool movie!
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 30 July 2022 10: 16
                    +4
                    Great movie!
                    So-so movie! "Arn" - many times better and more historical.
                    1. Phil77
                      Phil77 30 July 2022 10: 57
                      +4
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      Great movie!
                      So-so movie! "Arn" - many times better and more historical.

                      Beguiled. "Kingdom of heaven"! In principle, the same thing. But! Eva Green is good !!!
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 11: 06
                        +6
                        In the film, everything that is possible is distorted, in the "best" Hollywood traditions, of the last 30-40 years. Even the presence of Orlando Bloom does not save the picture.
                        By the way, about a month and a half ago I watched the Spanish series "El Cid". Credits. I recommend.
                  2. Sertorius
                    Sertorius 1 August 2022 14: 50
                    0
                    "Kingdom of heaven" to be honest - a rare nonsense. Take this frame from the movie. Guy Lusignan in a Templar's surcoat! laughing I'm not talking about the main character. The real story of Balyan Ibelin is much more interesting. And for all that, this film by Ridley Scott is the best in the cinema about the Crusades. Such is the paradox.
              2. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 30 July 2022 09: 43
                +7
                The most important vrmyanin is Rurik! And his warriors: Gagik, Araik and Frunzik.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 30 July 2022 10: 02
                  +2
                  The most important vrmyanin is Rurik! And his warriors: Gagik, Araik and Frunzik.

                  Anton, this is powerful! wassat )))
                  One of the professional historians glances at your remark, and now a new direction in historical science will be formed. And spears and keyboards will break.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 30 July 2022 10: 17
                    +4
                    Happens to me...
                  2. Phil77
                    Phil77 30 July 2022 10: 21
                    +4
                    Quote: depressant
                    And spears and keyboards will break.

                    I note! The very fact of communication is important for us. As my Petrograd friend Nikolai says: "it's great that we all gathered here today ...."
                    And Nikolai is ... the head !!! True, true. Seriously.
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 30 July 2022 12: 10
                      +3
                      As my Petrograd friend Nikolai says
                      He is as much from Petrograd as you are from Khimki.
                      1. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 14: 14
                        +3
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Nicholas
                        He is as much from Petrograd as you are from Khimki.

                        Eeeeee, listen, eh?
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 14: 22
                        +4
                        I mean, Kolya was born, raised and lived all his life in the "South-West" and has the same relation to Petrogradka as I have to "Textiles".
                      3. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 14: 46
                        +3
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Textiles

                        And what's wrong with the "Textilshchiks"? Yes, a whole microdistrict was built under the AZLK. So what? Who could predict the collapse? "the district of the watch factory. So what? Yes, in my Biryulyovo there are a lot of former hostels. What of this? I don't even need to *wash*, because the "Muscovite" is in the first, well ... second generation.
                      4. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 15: 03
                        +4
                        And what's wrong with "Textile workers"?
                        Yes, they are all right!
                        It's just that you called Kolya a "Petrograder", for a Petersburger it cuts the ear, because a Petrograder is a resident of Petrogradka, such a district in St. Petersburg.
                      5. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 15: 30
                        +4
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Yes, they are all right!
                        It's just that you called Kolya a "Petrograder", for a Petersburger it cuts the ear, because a Petrograder is a resident of Petrogradka, such a district in St. Petersburg.

                        Oops! I didn’t know that everything was so bright. It’s somehow easier with us. Well, you guys give!
                        Now I understand that a little that ends in the Moika.
                        Harsh residents of the northern capital. Although? Hardly. On the subject of the capital. laughing
                      6. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 15: 40
                        +4
                        Bright enough. Despite the local saying: "Peter is a small city." Recently, my architect told her husband: Tokha does not like to visit our area. And indeed it is!
                      7. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 15: 44
                        +4
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Petersburg is a small city

                        definite conclusion.
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Toha doesn't like to be in our area. And it really is!

                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Toha doesn't like to be in our area. And it really is!

                        You're popular, amigo!
                      8. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 15: 52
                        +4
                        You're popular, amigo!
                        This married couple are my old friends, back in the Arctic. It so happened that Ulyana works in the same business as me. Sometimes we cross paths in different projects.
                      9. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 16: 32
                        +4
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        a married couple - my old friends, back in the Arctic. It so happened that Ulyana works in the same business as me. Sometimes we cross paths in different projects.

                        Oops! Didn’t you intersect with this “she drowned”? St. Petersburg is a small city. Sorry, Anton!
                      10. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 16: 36
                        +3
                        No, I didn't cross paths with your namesake. Although the forum has people familiar with it.
                      11. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 14: 54
                        +5
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        I mean, Kolya was born, grew up and lived all his life in the "Southwest" and to

                        And I mean, Nikolai was born in Leningrad and he has every right to be called a Leningrader! However, you yourself will understand the naming of YOUR city.
                2. Phil77
                  Phil77 30 July 2022 10: 08
                  +4
                  Anton!
                  Oh god
                  Rurikian???? bully
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 30 July 2022 10: 19
                    +4
                    Frislyandyan.
                    1. Phil77
                      Phil77 30 July 2022 10: 36
                      +3
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      Frislyandyan

                      "Who is this? In law?"
                      "Tavern on Pyatnitskaya". bully
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 10: 43
                        +3
                        In law?
                        Yes. Head of the Armenian-Friesland organized criminal group.
                        "Drag, girls, soot - minium,
                        lies on faces makeup!
                        Rurik is coming to us from Europe -
                        our first legitimate prince!" (c)
            3. Phil77
              Phil77 30 July 2022 09: 10
              +5
              Quote: depressant
              Good morning everybody! )))
              Missed you. Yes.
              1. depressant
                depressant 30 July 2022 09: 35
                +5
                Missed you. Yes.

                In my dull boredom?)))
                According to the article - ran. I will read carefully. What hurt? State of mind of Caulaincourt. It is tragic when a person is not internally ready to adapt to the twists and turns of fast-flowing time. Because inside it is its own time, which has stopped. And parting with property is always difficult.
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 30 July 2022 09: 42
                  +4
                  Quote: depressant
                  In my dull boredom?)))
                  According to the article - ran. I will read carefully. What hurt? State of mind of Caulaincourt. It is tragic when a person is not internally ready to adapt to the twists and turns of fast-flowing time. Because inside it is its own time, which has stopped. And parting with property is always difficult.

                  No! According to clearly formulated conclusions! One. By emotionality. Two. By pleasantness in communication. Three. hi hi hi
                  1. depressant
                    depressant 30 July 2022 10: 11
                    +2
                    Flatterer and ... gamer! But in general a provocateur wassat )))
                    And they recognized me on telegrams. The visitors gritted their teeth. And I don't like it when with iron - on glass, breaking in the teeth. On one of the channels, the hosts politely and decently got excited. In general, where he was born, at least somehow it came in handy ...
                    By the way! The VO website was recognized, do not believe it, comprador wassat )))
                    1. Phil77
                      Phil77 30 July 2022 10: 26
                      +4
                      Quote: depressant
                      Flatterer and ... gamer! But in general a provocateur

                      I agree with the first conclusions. With the last, no! I'm a gouging! And as my friend Nikolai the rebel says. bully By nature.
                      1. depressant
                        depressant 30 July 2022 10: 55
                        +2
                        Nicholas is a rebel. By nature.


                        And we have not only a rebel Sergei Corsair. Though a corsair wassat )))
                        All others are capable of roaring. Some - on each other, others - on the Authors. In general, a silent growling community, which is nice.
                      2. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 15: 38
                        +3
                        Quote: depressant
                        And we have not only a rebel Sergei Corsair. Though a corsair)))

                        Do not touch Sergei! Poet! I respect! angry
                        Gouging me as much as you want.
                      3. depressant
                        depressant 30 July 2022 19: 57
                        +3
                        Don't touch Sergei!

                        Like, poet, I respect ...
                        Yes, what is it, let me ask you! .. As soon as I mention someone, those around me immediately have a strong suspicion of my desire to rot the mentioned person, trample him, grind him on the roadway, and then also ride with an asphalt paver ...
                        How do you perceive me?
                        Like, an angel, but such that in a mortar
                        fly much faster?
                        No and no again! wassat )))
                      4. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 30 July 2022 20: 17
                        +3
                        Thank you, Seryozha!

                        I can always defend myself. And there was no attack. But nice.
                      5. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 30 July 2022 20: 16
                        +2
                        How do you know, Lyudmila Yakovlevna?

                        But growling remotely is bad form. That's what I try not to let myself do.
                    2. Phil77
                      Phil77 30 July 2022 10: 32
                      +3
                      Quote: depressant
                      On one of the channels, the hosts politely and decently got excited. In general, where he was born, at least somehow it came in handy ...
                      By the way! The VO website was recognized, do not believe it, comprador)))

                      Welcome!

                      Why did they get excited? Al about the authorities deigned to say something inappropriate to her thought? Sin to you! Our government is the most imperious, the most infallible. And in general!
                      "Silence, I'm talking to you !!!" (c) laughing
                      1. depressant
                        depressant 30 July 2022 10: 57
                        +2
                        "Silence, I'm talking to you !!!" (c)

                        My voice of reason fell silent on the roads.
                2. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 30 July 2022 19: 39
                  +3
                  Hello, Lyudmila Yakovlevna. I have Caulaincourt's memoirs, I read them. Doesn't bother reading. The French are very much out there as such ideal civilizers of wild Russia. That's how it seemed to me.
                  By the way! The VO website was recognized, do not believe it, as a comprador wassat)))
                  I wonder where and who? Really in the Teleg?
                  1. depressant
                    depressant 30 July 2022 21: 05
                    +2
                    Really in the Teleg?

                    Exactly there)))
                    But not in the VO cart, but which one, I won’t specify for sure. I began to read many, there are a whole bunch of them, then I could not stand it, I left - there thoughts are rare, judgments are scarce, monotonous ...
                    And... Good evening, finally! Glad to see you! hi )))
                    1. Aviator_
                      Aviator_ 30 July 2022 21: 40
                      +3
                      I'm glad to see you too hi In Telega I read only Boris Rozhin (colonelcassad) and everything he refers to. Now I'm sorting through the books, I just found Caulaincourt with his notes. The phrases said about the retreat from Moscow are touching: "Having been attacked from all sides by superior forces, the Italian infantry covered itself with glory on November 10." Well, just like the Italians after 130 years near Stalingrad. Kutuzov is a mediocrity, and so on. Approximately the same thing that the beaten Germans will write after the Second World War.
                      1. depressant
                        depressant 31 July 2022 09: 20
                        +2
                        Well, just like the Italians after 130 years near Stalingrad. Kutuzov is a mediocrity, and so on

                        And it's like in ukrosmi: the troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are heroically retreating to pre-prepared positions, and the Russians are cowardly advancing wassat )))
          2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 30 July 2022 11: 01
            +4
            Quote: Phil77
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            the first of a kind hero!
            By the way, there were no bandits under Caulaincourt's ancestor! The first gangs were almost half a millennium away! What a pun!!!

            Hmm! Well, what were they doing?
            Good morning Vyacheslav!

            Banal "robbery".
            Banda - originally a military detachment of landsknechts, something between a modern platoon and a company! The name became a household name after 30 years of war
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 1 August 2022 12: 29
              0
              Banda - originally a military detachment of landsknechts, something between a modern platoon and a company! The name became a household name after 30 years of war

              They tied ribbons ("gang") to distinguish their own from enemies. The name has really become a household name.
        2. Phil77
          Phil77 30 July 2022 09: 23
          +5
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          ! What a pun!!!

          Vladislav! Sorry! Sorry! Well ... you understand. Once again, sorry!
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 30 July 2022 10: 53
            +5
            Appreciated!
            I smile at the company. Yesterday I witnessed a small lapdog escaped from the hands of a child and chased a cat. The cat, apparently a home cat, came from the city with summer residents, pulled not into a tree, but into a house. The owners of the dog for a lap dog, but you don’t particularly go to someone else’s site. The child roars, dad rings the doorbell and knocks on the fence. Then a shepherd with puppies comes out of the house and drags a lapdog in his teeth. The lap dog barks, waves its paws, and the shepherd dog walks with henna. And he carries it neatly like a puppy, by the greaves. The mistress of the shepherd and the cat came running out of hunger. She took the lapdog and gave it to the girl. The child roars, and the shepherd stands on its hind legs and licks the lap dog and the girl's face, the puppies spin between the legs. Then a cat appears in the doorway and, with a quiet heron, probably for the first time in his conscious life, he tries to climb up the door jamb onto the roof of the house.
            People can't imagine.
      2. Korsar4
        Korsar4 30 July 2022 07: 08
        +9

        My maternal great-great-grandfather
        Was that ancient:
        "Prince Shchepin with Vaska Gusev
        (Says another letter)
        Tried to set fire to Moscow
        They thought to rob the treasury
        Yes, they were executed by death, "
        But it was kind,
        Almost three hundred years
      3. Catfish
        Catfish 30 July 2022 10: 04
        +5
        there were bandits gently turning into aristocrats


        Or vice versa, or just combine everything. wink

        and I am a Polish nobleman, one of the oldest families, which ...

        “Listen here, with… gentry!” Polovtsev cut him off rudely,


        Hi, Seryozha. smile
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 30 July 2022 10: 42
          +3
          Quote: Sea Cat
          Hi, Seryozha.

          Good morning my friend Konstantin!
          "August '44"?
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 30 July 2022 10: 51
            +5
            Seryozha, you haven't woken up yet. smile This is "Virgin Soil Upturned", a skirmish between Yesaul Polovtsev and Lieutenant Lyatyevkiy in Ostrovnov's hut.


            1. depressant
              depressant 30 July 2022 11: 01
              +3
              Seryozha, you haven't woken up yet.

              Be careful, otherwise it will wake up, and even completely! What will beeeeeee! wassat )))
              Hello Kostya! hi smile )))
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 30 July 2022 11: 07
                +5
                Quote: depressant
                What will beeeeeee

                I haven't gone to the store yet. bully
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 30 July 2022 11: 40
                  +3
                  There are cartridges in the store, and you go to the store. wink drinks
                  1. Phil77
                    Phil77 30 July 2022 14: 57
                    +2
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    to the store

                    In the general store!
              2. Catfish
                Catfish 30 July 2022 11: 44
                +3
                Good afternoon, Luda! smile

                Seryozhka and I have been drinking since yesterday evening, only, however, exclusively virtually. wink

                1. depressant
                  depressant 30 July 2022 12: 45
                  +1
                  And now they're popping up everywhere. On Friday, the company's administration drinks right in the office, broadcasting it on a corporate chat, and remote freelance employees drink at home, watching the picture, and everyone communicates through the chat, commenting on what is happening....
                  Who would have thought 10 years ago that this is possible.
                  So your picture is on topic)))
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 30 July 2022 13: 21
                    +6
                    Who would have thought 10 years ago that this is possible.


                    We in the regiment, during the exercises, communicated on our tank radios (R-113) and also carried all sorts of nonsense when we stood at points and there was absolutely nothing to do. smile
                  2. Phil77
                    Phil77 30 July 2022 13: 26
                    +1
                    Quote: depressant
                    happening....
                    Who would have thought 10 years ago that this is possible.

                    Hmmm! However! 10 years ago? Do we know each other? laughing
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 30 July 2022 14: 18
                      +1
                      Hmmm! However! 10 years ago? Do we know each other?

                      Charming
                      For you, the whole world is a VO site. There is no other in the area wassat )))
                      1. Phil77
                        Phil77 30 July 2022 15: 02
                        +2
                        Quote: depressant
                        Charming
                        For you, the whole world is a VO site. There is no other in the area

                        Yes perishing! As says my. cat: "Mryauuu"! What was that?
                        My whole world is life around me. Site? The opportunity to chat with friends. I did not understand the flight of your thought.
                      2. depressant
                        depressant 30 July 2022 15: 39
                        +1
                        Tricky.

                        So I did not understand the flight of YOUR thoughts about 10 years. At the time, I didn't know you existed.
                      3. Phil77
                        Phil77 31 July 2022 10: 17
                        +1
                        Quote: depressant
                        flight of YOUR thought about 10 years. At the time, I didn't know you existed.

                        Oh shit!!! We did meet!
                        "To the swords, gentlemen, to the swords!" (c)
                      4. depressant
                        depressant 31 July 2022 11: 45
                        +1
                        Oh shit!!! We did meet!

                        Fate brought. They walked and walked, as it is now fashionable to say, winding along the lines of possibilities, and still stumbled over each other wassat )))
                      5. Phil77
                        Phil77 31 July 2022 11: 56
                        +1
                        Quote: depressant
                        bumped into each other

                        And immediately the shine of the blades! And the ringing of them! Pretty! I love you, my dear! Or? Not tolerant? laughing Laugh!¡
                      6. depressant
                        depressant 31 July 2022 13: 04
                        +1
                        And in order not to laugh, you need to drink. They say that euphoria comes from underdrinking, and as a result of overdrinking, first calmness, and then the stage of looking for someone to blame.
                      7. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 31 July 2022 18: 38
                        +1
                        As ataman Platov Levsha said:

                        "Don't drink a little, don't drink a lot, but drink sparingly"
                      8. depressant
                        depressant 31 July 2022 18: 44
                        +1
                        As the ataman said....

                        "Oh, all the money that I drank,
                        now to drink it again!" (c)
                      9. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 31 July 2022 20: 00
                        +1
                        From a teetotaler, this is a particularly sincere exclamation.
                      10. Phil77
                        Phil77 31 July 2022 12: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: depressant
                        Fate brought. We walked and walked, as it is now fashionable to say, winding along the lines of opportunity, and still stumbled over each other)))

                        Canal! Three thousand devils! How could I not see you??? love
                      11. depressant
                        depressant 31 July 2022 13: 02
                        0
                        Because of the nature of the globe.
            2. Phil77
              Phil77 30 July 2022 11: 06
              +2
              Quote: Sea Cat
              you haven't woken up yet

              Exactly! Tamantsev was there! I confess! hi
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 30 July 2022 07: 53
    +8
    This frivolous aristocrat literally ran into arrest himself, as he regularly crossed the border, visiting his mistress, whom he had taken in Strasbourg.
    Antoine Boulet de la Meurthe, one of the authors of the Napoleonic Code, said this about the execution of the Duke of Enghien: "This is worse than a crime - this is a mistake!" Indeed, the duke lived in the town of Ettenheim on the territory of the electorate of Baden, 10 kilometers from the French border, as a simple layman, using the pension assigned to him by the British government and preparing for an imminent wedding. He did not think about conspiracies. Talleyrand and Fouche played a tragic role in his death, they convinced Napoleon to order the arrest of the duke. Even during the interrogations of the participants in the Kadudal conspiracy, the investigators could not “dig up” anything concrete on Enghiensky. Enghiensky was chosen for the role of a sacred victim.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 30 July 2022 09: 14
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      they persuaded Napoleon to order the duke's arrest. Even during the interrogations of the participants in the Kadudal conspiracy, the investigators could not “dig up” anything concrete on Enghiensky. Enghiensky was chosen for the role of a sacred victim.

      Eh, they didn't know how to "ask". The wrong questions were asked. laughing
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 30 July 2022 10: 18
        +5
        One gets the impression that the murder of Enghiensky was committed in favor of the future Louis XVIII
    2. depressant
      depressant 30 July 2022 09: 39
      +2
      Well, yes. Pardon the guilty, execute the innocent.
      As the saying goes, look back in anger!
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 30 July 2022 09: 47
        +2
        Quote: depressant
        As the saying goes, look back in anger!


        On the issue of the Armenians! Ancient people. Christian. bully
      2. Phil77
        Phil77 30 July 2022 09: 49
        +2
        Quote: depressant
        Pardon the guilty, execute the innocent.

        Reward! Those who ... well, you know. bully
        1. depressant
          depressant 30 July 2022 10: 15
          +1
          I don't even want to know! For it is not interesting to know what is known to everyone.
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 30 July 2022 13: 28
            +1
            Quote: depressant
            depressant
            Today, 10: 15

            +1
            I don't even want to know! For it is not interesting to know what everyone knows

            And please! What is your list? For an award? good
            1. depressant
              depressant 30 July 2022 15: 42
              +1
              Sergey Vladimirovich, it's not good, sir! ... Mosk broke me! wassat )))
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 30 July 2022 15: 52
                +1
                Quote: depressant
                Mosh broke me

                Arrive! Left-right? Report! Do the personnel have brains? Report availability!
                1. depressant
                  depressant 30 July 2022 16: 06
                  +2
                  Comrade Sergeant! The brain was taken out and the place where it stood was swept up and even the floor was washed!
                  1. Phil77
                    Phil77 31 July 2022 12: 20
                    +1
                    Quote: depressant
                    even washed the floor!

                    Report! Your mother! The presence of the brain has a place of presence ??? Arrival? In general?
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 31 July 2022 12: 53
                      0
                      Like this wassat )))
                  2. Phil77
                    Phil77 31 July 2022 12: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: depressant
                    Comrade Sergeant! The brain is taken out and the place where it stood is swept up and even

                    And in general, what are you up to? Brain? There is no such thing No!
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 31 July 2022 12: 57
                      0
                      In fact, they reason with the help of the brain even during the attack. And this, by the way, is the most effective way of reasoning in view of the most moving circumstances, often leading to a real feat. What is observed at the forefront.
  4. north 2
    north 2 30 July 2022 08: 32
    +4
    this is someone who writes or edits an article about history in such a way that they had a congress in Chayton where Caulaincourt spoke on February 5 - March 19, 2014. And not the Duke of Angien, about whose abduction he writes here, but the Duke of Engien ...
    and Caulaincourt, then Alexander the First, after Waterloo, not only saved him from arrest in France, but also invited him to live in St. Petersburg. Caulaincourt refused and lived until his death in Paris without being involved in politics. And just before his death, Caulaincourt, on his own initiative, swore that he had nothing to do with the arrest and death of the Duke of Enghien.
    And Caulaincourt's book of memoirs "Napoleon's Campaign in Russia. Memoirs" is also published in Russia in Russian. Not only the content of the book is very good, but also its cover. That's probably why the price is so high. So, the flight of Caulaincourt together with Napoleon from Russia, leaving the dying army with a future on the Berezina, can be considered as the penetration of Caulaincourt the writer into the most humiliating moments of Napoleon's life, which would then be described in a book of memoirs. What Caulaincourt did.
    1. know
      know 30 July 2022 09: 10
      +4
      As far as I know, when translating from foreign languages, the letters A and E are interchangeable.
      Well, the search for typos is the work of proofreaders. Here you can’t suspect a mistake, not 1813 and 1814 are mixed up.
      1. north 2
        north 2 30 July 2022 10: 57
        -1
        Well, since you know this about the interchangeability of the letters A and E when translating names from foreign languages, then you call the Aegean Sea the Agean Sea
        and the Eiffel Tower is called the Eiffel Tower. Why not ! Well then, you and Angiensky, and not Engiensky ... and forward in the same way. Just why
        you will be dishonored on such a serious site as VO!
        1. know
          know 30 July 2022 11: 34
          +3
          Can you tell me why we say Mitsubishi, but sushi (not sushi) Why do we have Dumas in the translation - all of a sudden Milady, and not Mai Lady? And why in Ivanhoe's translation instead of the Templars - templars? Yes, and in general, why Paris and not Paris? Beijing, not Beijing? Translations and transcription is a delicate matter
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 30 July 2022 12: 20
            +3
            "In response to the call of the Estonian government to write the word "Tallinn" with two "n", the Russian Foreign Ministry put forward a proposal to change the name of a certain river to "Kolymaa."
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 30 July 2022 13: 32
              +1
              Quote: 3x3zsave

              3x3zsave
              Today, 12: 20

              +3
              "In response to the call of the Estonian government to write the word "Tallinn" with two "n", the Russian Foreign Ministry put forward a proposal to change the name of a certain river to "Kolymaa

              Bravo! And I’ll clarify. Not “Moscow”, but “Maskvaaa”! So, more precisely? There is work for foreign ministry bureaucrats! laughing
        2. vladcub
          vladcub 30 July 2022 11: 54
          +2
          "Agean Sea" correct remark. Such liberties in translation, cut the eye
    2. Trilobite Master
      Trilobite Master 30 July 2022 16: 21
      +3
      Quote: north 2
      And not the Duke of Angien, about whose abduction he writes here, but the Duke of Engien ...

      His name was Louis Antoine Henri de Bourbon-Condé, duc d'Enghien, that is, Louis Antoine Henri de Bourbon-Condé, duc d'Enghien.
      There are many cases in French when it is read completely differently from how it is written, but in this language there can be no other options, except that it is permissible to write "d'Engien" ...
      It would be interesting to know where the author got such a transcription from.
      I happened to read, for example, "Warwick" instead of "Warwick", for example, but there was just a literal reading - we read as we write ... But this is clearly not the case
      1. Fat
        Fat 30 July 2022 17: 07
        +4
        Greetings, Mikhail The use of 26 Latin letters has significantly limited the ability to transfer phonemes of languages ​​​​that began to use this method of writing. Until the 17th century, French orthography, for example, was in disarray. After a series of reforms, the last one was undertaken in 1990, there is some semblance of a pattern.
        In English, serious attempts to systematize the written language are not noticed. And until now: "Liverpool is written, and Manchester is read" (c) Therefore, there are so many "semi-literate" native speakers. One and the same phoneme can be written in almost a dozen different ways and + there are a lot of exceptions to the general rules. Even Einstein (Albert Einstein, IPA: [ˈalbɐt ˈaɪ̯nʃtaɪ̯n]) - signs of dyslexia request
        Therefore, I understand English texts without difficulty. But how to express own thought in conversation is a problem...
        It was not my destiny to become an announcer for London Radio. laughing
        1. Trilobite Master
          Trilobite Master 30 July 2022 21: 02
          +2
          Here the point, I think, is not in the number of letters of the alphabet, but in the antiquity of written culture. A living language is constantly changing, and spelling rules are changing from case to case. A thousand years ago, words were spelled the way they were pronounced, but now many of them are pronounced differently and are spelled the same way as before. And if we take into account the fact that in different localities the same language changes in different ways, gradually turning first into a dialect, then generally separating itself, then the question of correspondence (inconsistency) of phonetics and spelling becomes extremely interesting and voluminous. smile
          1. Fat
            Fat 30 July 2022 22: 03
            +3
            Maybe. However, the Russian language, having a normal stock of graphemes, thanks to the reforms managed to get rid of the superfluous and correct itself. In what sense to correct, you ask? Yes, because the number of graphemes almost completely corresponds to the number of phonemes. Therefore, it is quite possible to reproduce even regional peculiarities of pronunciation in "direct speech", however smile
            Michael, there are quite sensible studies in this regard, it is not difficult to find. Something I read and was horrified. And, yes, I already wrote about this, I don’t even remember exactly when, probably when worthy articles about the French Revolution appeared.
            That's for sure, "problems of transcription from Romano-Germanic" are not new to me .. Although I can understand Italian, Spanish, French only in the case of joint fishing with representatives of carriers, and not newcomers to fishing
            Even M. Gorky was able to understand immediately and without repetition what "Kozy ... Drin-drin, Kapish" means?
  5. depressant
    depressant 30 July 2022 09: 09
    +3
    Compare this with the customs of the Russian aristocracy, when the boys of noble families were sometimes recorded in the regiments from the moment of birth ...

    Yes, this practice was widespread in the Russian Empire of the 18th century. From literary examples - immediately after the birth of one of the characters in "The Captain's Daughter" Petrusha Grinev became a soldier already in the cradle.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 30 July 2022 09: 37
      +3
      Quote: depressant
      Yes, this practice was widespread in the Russian Empire of the 18th century. From literary examples - immediately after the birth of one of the characters in "The Captain's Daughter" Petrusha Grinev became a soldier already in the cradle.

      So after all, not only a literary example, dearest. But there are also historical examples.
      1. depressant
        depressant 30 July 2022 09: 44
        +2
        Apparently, the estates still demand it. Historical time will pass, and...? And it turns out that some surnames are stable by ear. By the way, how is it spelled - together or separately? laughing )))
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 30 July 2022 10: 05
          +1
          Quote: depressant
          aloud. By the way, how is it spelled - together or separately

          Separately. This is a problem with commas.
          But in general? Prince Naryshkin. Count Miller. And? Oh! Even thinking is forbidden. For? laughing
          1. depressant
            depressant 30 July 2022 11: 35
            +1
            You forgot to mention the Krasnodar businessman Sergei Golitsyn laughing )))
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 30 July 2022 14: 02
              +1
              Quote: depressant
              Krasnodar businessman Sergey Golitsin

              I don’t know. Do you say? Okay! To the barons! laughing
              1. depressant
                depressant 30 July 2022 15: 53
                +1
                I don’t know. Do you say? Okay! To the barons!


                They say the truth, if you are not well known, then the windy crowd will quickly forget you. Here I am from this crowd. Galician! "THANDER"!
                So let's not rush to award him a barony, it will cost laughing
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 30 July 2022 11: 50
      +1
      "already in the cradle" "through the efforts of Prince B., I was enrolled in the Semyonov Regiment of the Lei Guard."
      I don’t remember now, it seems that such a practice appeared under Anna Ioannovna and until Paul 1 canceled
    3. vladcub
      vladcub 30 July 2022 11: 58
      +2
      Lyudmila Yakovlevna, good day. Glad to see you.
      To know that your health is b.m. So we had a comrade: "Amurets" as soon as his health improved and he went to the site
      1. depressant
        depressant 30 July 2022 12: 36
        +1
        Thank you for your concern, Svyatoslav! )))
        I got used to the sick state wassat )))
        And who is very healthy now?)))
        In fact, she lived for some time on telegrams.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 30 July 2022 13: 59
          +2
          Quote: depressant
          And who is very healthy now?)))

          You will be very surprised. But? There are such people. Here is just a scar next to the eyebrow. laughing
          1. depressant
            depressant 30 July 2022 16: 20
            0
            Seal of Destiny! Honored fan! laughing
  6. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 30 July 2022 10: 07
    +5
    he received the rank of Grand Squire (squire)
    Actually, "squire" is a purely English expression. In French, there is a word for a squire - "ekue", respectively, and the title is written as Grand Ecuyer. Both words come from the Latin "scutum" (shield).
    Thank you, Valery!
  7. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 30 July 2022 10: 11
    +3
    His fate is amazing, his courage is amazing, and his mind and foresight are brilliant ...
  8. depressant
    depressant 30 July 2022 11: 07
    +3
    The Caulaincourt family could afford homeschooling their children, and the sons of the marquis received a very good education.

    Here it is!... Homeschooling is the enemy of socialization, at least in some form. It was difficult for such a person to communicate with marshals, some of whom came from poor suburbs and were brought up by the street.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 30 July 2022 11: 46
      +2
      Quote: depressant
      Home schooling is the enemy of socialization in any form. It was difficult for such a person to communicate with marshals, some of whom came from poor suburbs and were brought up by the street.

      You know, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, I disagree. Why? that "Minnesota" it is he who "drags". Sorry for the vulgarism.
    2. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 30 July 2022 15: 17
      +4
      Homeschooling is the enemy of socialization in any form.
      In this case, a juvenile colony is the best place to socialize a child.
      1. depressant
        depressant 30 July 2022 15: 30
        +1
        Anton, do not distort!
        The social status of a child is formed in his mind from 0 to 7 years. Who puts them in a colony? Further, no matter who a person becomes in life, he will always know who he really is. Origin! "Born with a bow, you will die with a bow" (c). This is if I did not distort the quote. Such is the peculiarity of a class society.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 30 July 2022 15: 44
          +2
          The social status of a child is formed in his mind from 0 to 7 years.
          You tell Maria Montessori, Lyudmila Yakovlevna.
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 30 July 2022 16: 01
            +2
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            consciousness from 0 to 7 years.
            You tell Maria Montessori, Lyudmila Yakovlevna.

            No, Anton, well, not right, right! It all depends on the individual. As I constantly write. A star will light up, the one who does not have it will remain .... there. Among us. We are not stars, are we? Alas.
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 30 July 2022 16: 21
              +2
              You know, Sergey, I had a childhood friend: an excellent student, an athlete (the first adult in skiing), he played the guitar well, the girls squeaked from him ... In general, the complete opposite of me. But "lame fate" decided otherwise: drugs, two trips to the zone, a couple of years ago he drunk out of the window ...
              And you say "stars"...
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 30 July 2022 16: 58
                +2
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                And you say: "stars

                Yes, my friend! That's it! How else?
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 30 July 2022 17: 03
                  +2
                  "There is no fate but the one we choose for ourselves!" Sarah Connor used to say in one of my favorite movies.
          2. depressant
            depressant 30 July 2022 16: 14
            +1
            You tell Maria Montessori


            I guess a well-known teacher would put me on the asphalt wassat )))
            That my opinion does not exclude. But it makes you disagree
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 30 July 2022 16: 25
              +1
              I guess a well-known teacher would put me on the asphalt
              All her pedagogical heritage is conducive to this. True, there was not enough asphalt where she worked, mostly stone pavements.
              1. depressant
                depressant 30 July 2022 17: 33
                +1
                "I'm not going to give up
                but I'm too lazy to win too ... "(c)
                laughing
  9. depressant
    depressant 30 July 2022 11: 44
    +5
    This is what made it fun:
    In 1801, Armand de Caulaincourt, thanks to his knowledge of the Russian language and his acquaintance with Talleyrand, was sent to St. Petersburg.

    I imagined: Caulaincourt is riding in a carriage, St. Petersburg is already close, a phrasebook is in hand! I quickly refreshed my memory of Russian speech turns, arrived, and there everything was just scribbling in French!
  10. vladcub
    vladcub 30 July 2022 11: 44
    +3
    Comrades, "The Lusignans owned Cyprus" hence nobles of high birth. One or two steps below the Bourbons. I wonder how he got along with other "Napoleonic" aristocrats?
    Overwhelmingly, all these "peers" and "dukes", with great pleasure, would have grabbed each other by the throat.
    If I were in Bonoparte's place, I would wear a rapnik in order to educate my "grape" barons.
    "Baron Chantret" got into a fight with another bvron? They will become a rapnik and immediately with civilians
    1. Fat
      Fat 30 July 2022 12: 54
      +3
      Quote: vladcub
      Comrades, "The Lusignans owned Cyprus" hence nobles of high birth. One or two steps below the Bourbons

      hi Greetings Slav. And why fiddle around? It must be said directly "royal muzzles" ... these Lusignans smile
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 30 July 2022 13: 37
        +1
        Quote: Thick
        . these

        Milk to Lusignan! For harmfulness!
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 13: 50
        +2
        Hello Borisych!
        In fact, the Lusignan coat of arms looks like this:
      3. vladcub
        vladcub 30 July 2022 14: 42
        +2
        Borisych, good afternoon. Just a couple steps down
        1. Fat
          Fat 30 July 2022 19: 04
          +1
          So you will stop taking the Hohenstaufen for a dynasty. What is lower? Did you leave the stage early? So this is more a merit of the "military power" of the Mamluks, and not the fault of the Lusignans, the Mamluks trampled all of Asia Minor and almost all of southeastern Europe with their strong boots request
  11. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 30 July 2022 13: 33
    +4
    _Guy de Lusignan, son of Amalric, Lord of Tyre, for two years (1342-1344) was the king of Armenia_
    "Guy de Lusignan was never the king of Armenia. At that time there was none. There was the state of Filaret Varazhnuni, the Principality of Kesun, the Principality of Edessa, the Principality of Melitene, the Principality of Pir and the Cilician state Guy (Guido) de Lusignan was the king of the Cilician Armenian kingdom. This , as they say in Odessa, there are two big differences. Therefore, further witticisms about Armenians and the ending of surnames are empty chatter."©
    1. Fat
      Fat 30 July 2022 14: 02
      +4
      hi Greetings Anton. And I didn't use a word about Guy de Lusignan. Having in mind Levon VI (V) the Last King of Cilician Armenia, his coat of arms was brought. He died in Paris in 1393 and is buried in the abbey of Saint Denis in the monastery of the Celestines.


      And Guy de Lusignan was crowned by Sibylla, after the death of her brother, Baldwin V, she married him. Still, Guy de Lusignan managed to be king for some time, until he was taken prisoner ... But back, after the ransom, he was not allowed to become king. request
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 14: 06
        +2
        Borisych, did you notice the quotation marks and the © sign in my comment?
        1. Fat
          Fat 30 July 2022 14: 36
          +2
          Noticed but didn't understand. Who or what are you quoting? Guy de Lusignan definitely managed to be the king of Jerusalem for two years ... But I don’t know whether he was the king of Cilician Armenia.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 30 July 2022 14: 38
            +2
            Further in a personal or whatsapp.
            1. Fat
              Fat 30 July 2022 14: 43
              +2
              Let's. Whatsapp is more convenient, like you had my number
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 30 July 2022 14: 45
                +2
                Already in a personal otpulilsya.
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 30 July 2022 14: 58
        +2
        "Regarding Tolstoy's comment, these are different people. Guy of Lusignan, King of Jerusalem 1186–1192, King of Cyprus 1192–1194. Constantine II, King of Armenia, born Guy de Lusignan, from 1342–1344." ©
        1. Fat
          Fat 30 July 2022 15: 04
          +2
          Okay, I'll try to figure it out. smile
  12. faterdom
    faterdom 30 July 2022 15: 02
    +2
    The most pro-Russian French politician, and it is a pity that he could not prevent the war. Bonoparte could turn on and put the squeeze on the British.
  13. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 30 July 2022 18: 32
    +1
    ran the imperial stables
    That is, he was the head of the transport department.
    Guy de Lusignan, son of Amalric, Lord of Tyre, was king of Armenia for two years (1342-1344).
    And it's absolutely phenomenal. Did the Armenians know about it?
    1. Fat
      Fat 30 July 2022 20: 32
      +2
      hi Yes, they knew. Cilician Armenia existed for almost 1000 years before its fall. It was sometimes called Little Armenia. In addition, when continuous difficulties with the invaders began, emigrants, including the Catholicos of the Armenian Apostolic Church, were massively drawn to this piece of mountainous terrain from Greater Armenia.
      And what to hide, there were a lot of ruling dynasties there. Simply, Levon VI (V) de Lusignan became the last monarch of Cilicia...
      Crusader knight Levon de Lusignan was destined to become the last king of Cilician Armenia and reign for seven months. In 1374, the future monarch arrived in Sis, where on September 14, on the day of the Exaltation of the Cross, Levon and his wife, Marguerite de Soissons (French Marguerite de Soissons, Armenian Mariun), were anointed king in the capital's Cathedral of St. Sophia. Later, also in September of this year, the Queen was relieved of her burden, giving birth to twins - Princesses Mariam and Katarine. - this is from Wikipedia
      Later. Difficulties arose in mutual understanding between Catholics and Armenian Christians, despite the rapprochement of positions ... Yes, they are still ready to fight even in the temple, which we saw during the distribution of the Easter Holy Fire
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 30 July 2022 20: 54
        0
        Cilician Armenia existed for almost 1000 years before its fall
        I didn't know, thanks for the enlightenment. Here, even the Armenians do not know this, I will ask around on Monday.
        1. Fat
          Fat 30 July 2022 21: 05
          0
          Do not mention it. Do you have representatives of the Armenian clergy in your city? They are certainly knowledgeable people.
          With respect.
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 30 July 2022 21: 37
            0
            No, these are ordinary Soviet and Russian Armenians. Here I once puzzled Professor Mirgazov by asking what kind of Islam the Tatars profess - Sunnism or Shiism, but he did not know. He is far from it. The local Armenians, I suppose, too.
            1. Fat
              Fat 30 July 2022 22: 24
              0
              Yes, and we are not always ready to answer unexpected questions. When the path and goal is to have a light snack during the lunch break, a rare person will be excited by the essence of the second law of thermodynamics in an interrogative collision with a jumping blogger. laughing
  14. VLR
    30 July 2022 18: 39
    +5
    Now I saw how this cat caught a mouse in a beautiful jump. There are also hunter cats and mouser cats in Russia!


    A typo that someone noticed has been corrected. This is because I did the last edit on a smartphone - I missed the keys
  15. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 30 July 2022 21: 55
    +1
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    we are not getting any younger

    But we are not poor wink
    1. Fat
      Fat 30 July 2022 23: 12
      +3
      I, Albert, am getting poorer day by day. First one, then another fiscal office. sues me. So far, only one office has succeeded - representatives of the OMF. So their requests are lowered below the plinth, And all because of the fact that the "digital state" is a project, but not a reality. Moreover, patriotic judges, due to the absence of the defendant, are dumbfounded with pearls, and there is no need to even invite the "sheep".
      Threats: we have the right to deliver you with the assistance of the Police. So Deliver! It would be funny, but it's hard for me. Here I do not like to come to their superiors, to hobble not far. He did everything honestly according to the verdicts in the "administrative" .... What else is needed, except for bribes.
      "Rubber Polykhaev" drives. And even the new decisions of the Legislative Assembly to everyone, especially the SSP do not care. I understand that "the law does not have retroactive force", however, it is necessary to cancel and stop the effect of the obsolete norm without litigation.
      P.S. Forgive me for this "n he was" - I wanted to scream smile
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 30 July 2022 23: 24
        +2
        I also have a trial period. Debtors get divorced (some people get children during a divorce laughing ), wives demand a share of the jointly acquired, and from me, for some reason lol
        1. Fat
          Fat 30 July 2022 23: 41
          +2
          Hold on. It's a shame that the whole "bodyaga" for a long time, Or are you a "lawyer" yourself (in the sense of a lawyer)? wink
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 31 July 2022 00: 29
            +2
            No, I'm a merchant, but 25 years of living in Israel taught me how to choose the best specialized lawyers laughing
          2. Phil77
            Phil77 31 July 2022 05: 23
            0
            Quote: Thick
            Hold on

            And I'm just such a hard worker. And? I also ... get poorer! Every day. For? laughing
            1. Fat
              Fat 31 July 2022 06: 16
              0
              Good morning Serezha...
              Are you a rabid patriot yet?
              1. The country wants everyone to give up the bad habit of smoking and become, finally, happy and rich.
              2. On the other hand, the sooner an employee dies from lung cancer, the less pensions will have to be paid, and at the same time, you can make good money indulging in an obsessive habit (given that insurance medical care is anyway - at the expense of the future deceased)
              Sign insurance contracts
              About the service
              Do you want a cigarette right ready to be lit, or just in your teeth and smoke in puffs?
              Further... I can spit, monotonously (after a glass) at 50 creatives per minute, without expressing an emotional attitude towards them in any way...
              This is both a resume and a business plan in one glass.
  16. sivuch
    sivuch 31 July 2022 08: 53
    0
    The original source appears to be in English. Hence the lord instead of a seigneur (it's like calling a boyar a lord) and a squire instead of a grand ecuyer (Grand écuyer de France) and Count Harville instead of d'Arville.
  17. icelord
    icelord 31 July 2022 19: 55
    +3
    You understand that here, either for Bonaparte or against, neutrality did not rake in any way. It's about the blockade of England. Napoleon, the funny thing, was not going to conquer Russia. No, he extinguished English trade like that, well, he ran into it, it’s always like that with Russia, they don’t take it into account, and then it’s too late ....
    1. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 1 August 2022 13: 47
      +1
      You understand that here, either for or against Bonaparte, neutrality did not rake in any way.

      Ba!!!!!! belay Igor, what people! Hello! drinks
      1. icelord
        icelord 1 August 2022 14: 05
        +1
        Good day, dear, yes, I'm back request drinks
      2. icelord
        icelord 1 August 2022 14: 11
        +1
        I just now find myself in Texas, all this red tape with the move did not leave time for any communication at all. But on the other hand, there is an arch and a colt near the bed, and before that only a premium psm, and then without cartridges, low. But it is also a pity, I had to passwassat
        1. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 1 August 2022 15: 21
          +1
          I just now find myself in Texas, all this red tape with the move did not leave time for any communication at all.

          And how is Texas? wink
          But it is also a pity, I had to pass

          Well, that's understandable... I'm glad to see you on the site again.
          1. icelord
            icelord 1 August 2022 15: 27
            +1
            Texas again wants to become the Republic of Texas, tired of the Democrats, blm and other insanity. Yes, finally, all these modern politicians are tired. We are redneck guys simple laughing
            Ps I didn’t take the white house, it’s a pity request
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 1 August 2022 16: 24
              +1
              Texas again wants to become the Republic of Texas, tired of the Democrats, blm and other insanity.

              Seriously? I'm talking about the Republic of Texas. I thought these were domestic tales for jingoistic patriots.
              Ps I didn’t take the white house, it’s a pity

              Wait, maybe there will be another opportunity... request
              blm and other insanity

              There are not so many African Americans in Texas, apparently? And besides blm, under the phrase "general insanity" - what did they mean?
              I'm here, a sinful deed, hooked on a blogger, "former Canadian" Alex Brezhnev. The uncle worked as a long-distance truck driver across Canada-USA, and recorded funny reviews about the life of the American hinterland and not only. drinks On YouTube there is a series of "America inside out." Your comments on this subject would be interesting. yes
              1. icelord
                icelord 1 August 2022 16: 35
                +1
                It was the Republic of Texas, yes. And Texas remembers it. There are no blacks, thank God, almost, also true. There are many Latinos, but they are quite adequate, well, for the most part. And insanity is now everywhere in politics, the longer I live, the more I don’t like politicians, I feel like I’ll die an anarchist. It was not by chance that I climbed into the village, well, to hell with all these eastern states .....
              2. icelord
                icelord 1 August 2022 17: 01
                +1
                Here, after all, they are blacks on their own and with claims to something that they clearly did not deserve. But the Latinos, they are different in the first two, well, three maximum generations, then they are the same as everyone else. Great America is rotting, rotting. But in texas beam
                1. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 1 August 2022 17: 15
                  0
                  But in texas beam

                  Reliance on conservative rednecks?
                  It was the Republic of Texas, yes.

                  Are they talking about it seriously? Ie, to stand apart?
                  1. icelord
                    icelord 1 August 2022 17: 36
                    +1
                    Well, I don’t know, of course, I’m far from the political elite of the state, but there is discontent among the people. And yes, ordinary rednecks strongly disapprove, but there are very cool rednecks, with 60 percent of oil production in the traditional way
                    1. icelord
                      icelord 1 August 2022 17: 42
                      +1
                      The last time there was a riot to separate Texas from the United States was in 1991, by the way ...
                  2. icelord
                    icelord 1 August 2022 17: 56
                    +1
                    But this is America, the next president will be a Republican, and Texas will melt request laughing crying
                  3. icelord
                    icelord 1 August 2022 18: 14
                    +1
                    Until I received citizenship, I did not understand how strong the enmity between Democrats and Republicans was. In the USSR and R.I. Yes, and modern Russia has one party, one way or another, even if there are more on paper. Not so in the USA. But now in the United States there is also a terrible political crisis, they don’t believe in the government, the president ..... well, he is not adequate, everything is difficult, in my opinion there is a worldwide kabzdets (it would be necessary to be stronger, but they will be banned)
                    1. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 2 August 2022 09: 56
                      +1
                      president ..... well, he is inadequate

                      Well, sort of, yes ... grandfather is such a grandfather ...
                      should be stronger, but banned

                      No, thanks. Communication is more important.
                      and there are very cool rednecks, with 60 percent of oil production in the traditional way

                      I was always somewhat struck by the feeling of a certain separatism. If you separate, you must imagine what and how you will live. And if Texas wants independence, how are they going to build their economy and politics?
                      Glad, very glad to see you! There is already an "Englishman" in the company, now an "American" has appeared. laughing Looking forward to hearing from there! drinks
                      1. icelord
                        icelord 2 August 2022 10: 51
                        +1
                        I've been tired of politics lately, it's scary to live somehow, so my passion for weapons has gained a great opportunity for satisfaction. Here at the gun show there is such an assortment of weapons, both antique and modern, your eyes run wide, for every taste and wallet, and you can twist everything in your hands
                      2. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 2 August 2022 11: 10
                        0
                        Here at the gun show there is such an assortment of weapons, both antique and modern, your eyes run wide, for every taste and wallet, and you can twist everything in your hands

                        Get out your cowboy hat and boots! wink drinks I will be very happy if everything works out for you. yes By the way, you can give out an article - they say, "first impressions of life in the USA." Always wanted to go there, but, probably, no luck! laughing
  18. Sertorius
    Sertorius 1 August 2022 14: 56
    +1
    Napoleon also awarded him the title of Duke of Vicenza (duc de Vicence), however, landless.

    Few of the Napoleonic aristocracy got the title with lands. Murat, Berthier, one of the other marshals. But on the other hand, everyone, along with the title, received a significant annuity of several hundred thousand francs.
    Many thanks to Valery for returning to Napoleonic France. hi