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Drone for the Russian soldier: needed or not?

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Drone for the Russian soldier: needed or not?

You know, so much has already been written and with such diverse emotions on this topic that I will take the responsibility to create a kind of summary regarding UAVs. Indeed, it is worth combining all these “everything is lost, everything was stolen” and “everything is in perfect order with us”, and calculate a certain truth, which, as always, hangs somewhere in the middle.


All this was prompted by the increasing number of publications on the topic “The Russian army does not have enough drones.” They write, or rather, yell in such a way that the ears are pawned from the squeal. But we really need to put everything on the shelves: who lacks UAVs, which ones are missing, why they are missing. What are the norms in general, if they exist, and who should develop them if they do not exist. There are many questions, and all questions are to the point.

So, the thesis: there are not enough drones, voluntary assistants swept "Aliexpress" almost clean, the army is blind without drones.

Where and what is the truth?

The truth is that UAVs exist in the Russian army and are used for their intended purpose. Yes, we have a problem with heavy impact devices, but more on that below.

In fact, if there is a shortage of drones somewhere, it is in the armies of the republics. There, of course, funding is not like in Russia, so if someone supplies UAVs there, it will be domestic Chinese drones from volunteers. As for serious reconnaissance (I'm just silent about drums) devices, of course, there is a complete zero there. Although if at one time they had paid attention to the work in some serious institutions such as Lugansk University, perhaps the problem would not have been so acute.

But let's be honest: if someone is to blame for the fact that the army of the LPR (I don’t know for the DPR) turned out to be without drones, the leadership of the LPR is to blame, which simply banned UAVs in the republic. Any. Accordingly, there was no way to train pilot operators, because it was strictly forbidden to fly.

Therefore, today, in this regard, the LPR army is a poorly organized mess, where, however, UAVs began to penetrate through the same voluntary assistants. That is, the saturation of the army structures of the LPR with devices occurs from the bottom up and unsystematically.

As far as the situation is in terms of education and training of operators, I will simply modestly keep silent.

But for now, let's leave this class of UAVs and start vice versa, from top to bottom.

Heavy strike UAVs.


These are giants like our "Hunter" or the Turkish "Akinchi". Really heavy, in comparison with which the “heavy” and shock American MQ-1C “Grey Eagle” looks like a sort of small car that weighs as much as these monsters take bombs and missiles.

Are they needed?

Oh sure. Moreover, we will not listen to the fairy tales of those who enthusiastically broadcast about artificial intelligence, on the basis of which these UAVs will have brains. Everything that we saw in the movie "Stealth" - that's not going to happen yet. We have, at least. Until we restore our microelectronics and at least start making microcircuits ourselves.

In general, competent experts in this industry say that real AI, which will be able to assess the situation and make decisions, moreover, having a modest size, is the business of future generations of technology.

But these hefty vehicles will still have their place in the sky. And in order to describe it, let's look at the artillery. There is such a thing as MLRS. The car leaves for the position, shoots its ammunition and goes to reload. A TZM vehicle drives up and loads another series of shells. This is typical for all large-caliber MLRS. Day yesterday.

Today is TPU, transport-launcher instead of TZM. That is, in fact, the same machine, with launch containers, with hydraulics and a turntable, but without brains. The TPU simply approaches the main machine, connects to its network and, following commands from the main launcher, directs its trunks and performs another launch. In fact - a spare self-propelled cassette with shells, only cheaper.

Approximately the same situation with the "Hunter". Flying ammunition for the Su-35 or Su-57. The aircraft can be hung with air-to-air missiles, and the UAV with an air-to-surface kit. And work accordingly. And if you attach it to the Su-34, where there is a dedicated gunner operator, then it will be hot on the ground in general where such a sweet couple will arrive.


In areas where there is air defense - it is relevant, because it saves the flight crew. The main thing is that there is someone to look after the UAV, but we'll talk about this a little lower.

Reconnaissance UAVs.


Yes, today intelligence is our everything. And of course, it is much more convenient to launch an unmanned miracle that will circle over the area and broadcast live data on the situation. These are very useful devices, which they have proven by participating in more than one conflict.

Our army is equipped with such devices like "Orlan" and "Forpost". In sufficient quantities? Well, sorry, at war weapons is never enough. But at the level of brigades-divisions, there are air reconnaissance units and they are working.

And, as I understand it, the snag is not at all in the number of such devices. The essence of the cries about the absence of UAVs comes again from a much lower level.

Spotters and scouts for artillery


A separate subspecies, and here's why. Ukrainians are very actively using drones to correct artillery fire on the same columns of equipment, when possible. Plus a very nice bonus in counter-battery combat. But - a bonus, not a panacea.

The UAV can detect the place where the shooting comes from. Both visually and with coordinates. Further headache for operators in terms of transferring to available numbers for gunners. Fine? Quite.

However, if we talk about counter-battery firing, then initially our army was ready for it. And until recently, UAVs were not even thought about in this regard. Why nurture semi-fantastic ideas, if even in Soviet times there was a perfectly acceptable ARK-1 Rys counter-battery firing station, which detected cannon artillery from 10 km, and MLRS from 20 km. Yes, it burned out everything alive within a radius of half a kilometer, but it worked. And this is in the seventies.

Today is the portable counter-battery station "Aistenok" and the mobile "Zoo-1M".



"Zoo-1M" ​​perfectly detects mortars at a distance of 13-17 km, cannon artillery from 10-12 km, and MLRS - 15-22 km. And these stations should quite regularly supply the gunners with data for firing back.

And intelligence, ordinary army intelligence, should also not sit in the rear and wait for UAVs to fly and collect all the information necessary for the regiment-division. This is not about dashing RDGs walking behind enemy lines and collecting information, but about reconnaissance structures that use, in addition to UAVs, also Aviation, radar, radio interception and so on.

Those who are interested in the numbers can look in more detail, but back in February, about 500 Ukrainian artillery pieces were operating against about 1100 Russian artillery pieces. Then, as the Russian grouping strengthened, the number approximately equalized, and recently they have already started talking about the multiple (up to 20 times) superiority of Russian artillery.

Question: where did the Ukrainian artillery go? Why are calls to the West for the supply of any artillery systems sounding louder and louder? Is everything broken? Shot a resource? Or (it's hard to admit, of course), do Russian gunners know their job and Ukrainian guns just knock out?

And this, I note, despite the fact that the Russian army is fighting practically with its hands tied, minimizing losses among the civilian population. Unlike the Ukrainian army, which easily begins to shoot down its yesterday's cities, which included the troops of Russia, the LPR and the DPR.

What is the merit of drones in this - it will be possible to calculate only after everything is over. But it is clear that God knows what. "Zoos" have been integrated into the military structure of artillery for a long time, unlike UAVs. The new one should still fit in.

Let's take a critical look at our unmanned "wonder weapon". Let's criticize. Yes, it is clear that a UAV is cheaper than an airplane, yes, it does not need a pilot, and the operator can, like the American Reapers, sit for several thousand kilometers and control via satellite. Quiet, economical, cheap, unobtrusive - we have already learned all the strengths of the UAV by heart.

What's in the weak? In the weak, we have complete defenselessness. The operator, no matter how he swears at the remote control, but he won’t be able to keep the situation under control. And the all-round radar, on the testimony of which the operator will be able to count - it will be, but later. Tomorrow. And on huge devices like the same "Akinchi". The rest, excuse me, are teddy bears.

And, besides, break the umbilical cord connecting the operator and the drone - and that's it, finita. And how to break it, everyone understands perfectly. Clog the communication channel, for which there are appropriate electronic warfare systems - and that's it, the drone goes for spare parts.

And this is such a big, beautiful device. What about the little ones? Yes, with the very ones that were discussed in the published cries?


Yes, there is a sacred meaning in small drones. And, it is very deep. The practice of SVO has shown that a small UAV is very good in urban areas: drop around the corner, rise above the block and show if there are mortars and machine guns on the way of the group, and yes, if necessary, it can also throw a grenade at the enemies.

But there is also a downside. Which was perfectly applied by the Ukrainians, who had everything more or less decent with the UAV and who dug and studied the topic.

And when the cries began that without drones there was nowhere and nothing, when the volunteers unanimously dragged armfuls of Chinese drones, that's when the Ukrainian military began to joyfully rub their hands. Because with the help of completely simple devices and manipulations, it is possible to very accurately calculate the location of the latter from the exchange signals between the UAV and the operator. More precisely, his smartphone, which is used as a transceiver. And send a few dozen mines or shells there.

What is the difference between an experienced operator and an experienced pilot? Nothing. And the destroyed operator is no less sensitive loss than the pilot.

While they figured it out, while they understood what and how to reflash, both Russian and republican fans suffered losses. I don’t know how many lives were taken by the Chinese Maviks that fell into the war against their will, but I have repeatedly heard about the losses caused precisely by the use of civilian drones on the front line.

Every drone has its own flight path. Yes, small assistants, so to say, at the company level, can take their rightful place in the troops. A small apparatus that works in the interests of a company commander or tactical group commander is normal. But for everyone to have a personal disposable drone in their backpack is too much. Namely, many are shouting about this today, saying that "there are no drones in the troops."

The question of the need for such quantities remains open. The issue of quality is even more topical than mass production.

Let's be honest: we can't have any mass production of drones yet. At best, it will be an assembly of Chinese designers with all the ensuing consequences. Such "mass" UAVs are harmful, because they are created for absolutely different purposes for which we want to use them.

Not so long ago, a retired lieutenant colonel ran around Voronezh, introduced himself on behalf of the command of the 20th Army and was looking for those who could buy a "drone with a night vision camera." The army command really needed such an apparatus. Why is another question, but one must understand that Comrade Lieutenant Colonel did not find anything with such a technical assignment.

But if you look at the bacchanalia that was going on "on the air", then only one conclusion could be drawn: the UAV's fashionable hobby and the desire to make noise. I won’t give examples, but there were quite a few “volunteers” who rather unscrupulously put forward “they don’t supply the army, we do it.”

Of course, there are also questions about the supply of the army, but why did the colonels and lieutenant colonels, who by hook or by crook began to get drones for themselves, calmly signed all the necessary requirements during their service, without mentioning such a problem? Good question, right?

It turns out that everything was calm and fine, everything suited everyone, and suddenly, as always, there was a war, but we were not ready! There are no drones, there is nowhere to take it, it is not included in the budget, there are no orders! Hey people! Throw yourself on the UAV of the invincible and legendary!

In general - so-so solution.

And, of course, the media. Only they are responsible for the fact that UAVs suddenly began to play such an important role on the battlefield. How the “Bayraktar” was promoted, which destroyed half of the army of Nagorno-Karabakh with its bombs and which now does not fly up to the front line in Ukraine - they, the media disinformation, are solely to blame for this.

But already in the NWO, the Turkish drone showed that not everything is so perfect. And the percussion apparatus has many problems and many opponents. And in general, NWO is really an operation that is very different from a “normal” war.

Judge for yourself: the operation is proceeding according to the scenario of maximum preservation of the population and its places of residence. The infrastructure is not violated, the bridges across the Dnieper are not blown up, along which reinforcements and equipment from the West easily and naturally pass, in general there are questions about a car and two platforms. The air defense system was not cut down and not destroyed, contrary to all the statements of the Ukrainian Air Force. There is a war going on, sorry, really at the level of the First World War, when artillery plays the main role.

It turns out that we need not just attack drones, but devices capable of penetrating through the enemy’s layered air defense and delivering high-precision strikes on targets almost autonomously.

I'm sorry, but the wheel has already been invented. All such data have cruise and ballistic missiles. And some strike drone, or kamikaze drone, which will loiter somewhere for hours, so that when he sees the target, the operator gives the command to destroy - sorry, this is not serious. This will work only where this device will not be hit by a rocket or a beam of simulated radiation that turns the control equipment into trash.

If we are talking about control satellites, then modern electronic warfare systems today calmly block signals from satellites, preventing positioning and control of vehicles. Not to mention the fact that Russia seems to have S-500 missiles capable of "removing" global positioning system satellites from low orbit. Moreover, for this it is not necessary to launch hundreds of missiles, just a dozen or two are enough. The rest will be done by a swarm of fragments from destroyed vehicles.

And yes, there are good old rockets equipped with an inertial positioning system. And new hypersonic ammunition, which is still too tough for air defense systems. But for now.

UAVs in this system do not occupy a proper niche. So far, processors are too imperfect, unable to provide artificial intelligence with at least target recognition with an acceptable threshold. Therefore, it is not yet possible to exclude an operator from the combat crew, who can be located at a great distance from the device and not have an operational impact on the situation.

Of course, when the MQ-1 Predator and MQ-9 Reaper in Afghanistan are controlled via satellite from a command post located at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada. Yes, it is safe for operators to be 12 thousand kilometers from the scene, but in order for the UAVs to work quietly, real air superiority is necessary.

In the same Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, NATO troops had overwhelming air superiority, however, there were losses from drones.

So what devices do the Russian army really need today and tomorrow?

Well, obviously not for the squad leader in each platoon to "fix" the road with the help of such an apparatus. This is utter nonsense, at least until the moment when we really have our own inexpensive reconnaissance UAVs that will not unmask those who use them. Chinese household drones adapted for military needs are wrecking. We don't need this.

All these rather stupid arguments about drones that “hack” enemy air defense systems should also be dismissed as unnecessary. Air defense systems are perfectly handled by cruise missiles and anti-radar missiles. No need to reinvent the wheel, everything has already been invented. These are “kamikaze” drones, carrying a small explosive charge, often simply unable to cause proper harm. Unlike a cruise missile, which flies several times faster, and its charge is quite decent.

Yes, a cruise missile can be shot down, it can be processed with an electronic warfare system. But absolutely the same applies to UAVs. It is difficult to say why some have decided that the drone is a kind of imbalance and has a great future behind it.

Armadas of hundreds of drones that will break into air defense defenses are also not our way. We have a kind of defensive doctrine. Let's leave all this to the Americans and everyone else, we have no need for such things. Therefore, we do not need to invest fabulous money in the development and construction of the so-called mass UAVs, because they are too vulnerable to modern electronic warfare and air defense systems.

And what the “experts” write today, who already demand to overwhelm the troops with some kind of UAVs, is actually a lobby. Yes, let's face it - the interests of those who can organize the so-called "production" of UAVs in Russia are being lobbied. That is, the purchase of drones in China and the re-gluing of labels, which has already happened more than once in terms of UAVs in our country.

Even by such methods, as voiced by our Deputy Prime Minister Borisov, who promised to start flooding the army with drones in the near future, apparently in order to shut up the most vocal "experts", the problems cannot be solved.

A drone, even for every fighter in his backpack, will not solve the problem that after three months of military service, a fighter who has signed a contract does not know how to do anything. Zero in terms of topography and ability to use a map and compass, zero in terms of survival, zero in terms of orientation. They are all zero now, no matter who you poke at. Medicine is also zero. But - give them UAVs and they will not fight as they should.

In fact, the losses are not due to the lack of drones, but due to the reasons for the lack of proper organization in everything, from the offensive to the movement of columns in the rear, which was shown by the NWO in full. The lack of proper preliminary reconnaissance, violation of the secrecy regime during the preparation of equipment and personnel for marches in front of enemy observers from the local population, the inability to organize observation on the march and prepare personnel to repel possible enemy attacks - this is what kills people.

Well, plus the use of unprotected reconnaissance equipment such as civilian UAVs

Answering the question posed at the very beginning, for the sake of which, in fact, everything was written, the UAV, working in the interests of the Russian soldier in the army, should have its place. It should be.

But it must be the "correct" drone, with the correct, trained operator, acting in accordance with the orders of the command. What some "experts" say about the presence of UAVs in the "squad-platoon" line is nonsense. And the presence of such devices in the field, with untrained operators, and even without meeting the standards and requirements, is harmful.
You should not turn the assistant device into some kind of ability to stand out. We will go so far: each fighter has a purchased drone, commanders have better drones, commanders higher up even better, and so on. Stupidity.

Of course, some people want to compensate for their unpreparedness with a drone. “Oh, we will not go on the attack on the farm, so the enemy dug in. We saw it from a drone. call Tanks, aviation and artillery. This is instead of developing a smart plan and implementing it.

In general, the use of drones should be under clear and strict control. Without excesses, as it was in the LPR, but without a mess.

UAVs are a good assistant in terms of obtaining information. Perhaps a way to deliver a small charge somewhere. BUT this is a very weak device both in terms of protection and in terms of combat capability. So first of all it's just a helper. The Ministry of Defense is obliged to develop Russian devices, but allowing incomprehensible non-military UAVs into the army structures is an unnecessary luxury.

The Russian soldier needs an UAV that will work in his interests. But it should not be a device that every tenth person will have. This is too much, the soldiers have their own functions, which they must perform properly and without the help of personal drones.
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  1. Electrical
    Electrical 27 July 2022 08: 57
    +32
    The question brings to mind the tsarist rhetoric about automatic weapons: you can’t stock up on them! It's funny, but it speaks clearly for the situation of history repeating when it is forgotten!
    1. Civil
      Civil 27 July 2022 09: 32
      +39
      The article is an excuse for someone's mistakes and miscalculations! I would give examples, but I will not pour water on the mill of opponents. Instead, as a person who has been advocating for UAVs for over 15 years, I will say the following:
      1. Miniaturization and drone manufacturing technologies in the near future will lead to the fact that the number of BATTLE FIELD drones will exceed the number of manpower of the warring parties.
      2. "Flying minefields" are already being tested, when a network of suicide drones replaced for recharging will block entire objects, and then directions from aviation, OTRK and other types of UAVs.
      3. An attack by a swarm of small UAVs (not necessarily suicide bombers) on enemy positions in autonomous mode will fundamentally change combined arms combat.
      4. A common control network for all types of drones with redundancy to a neural network and remote control of supercomputers, the issue has been resolved, since all the necessary elements are in place. Especially with the enemy, the presence of Star Link allows you to have high-speed communication along the entire front.

      PS. The era of sailing ships did not end because of the disappearance of the wind. The more we ourselves tell each other such "tales" like this "article", the harder it will be to correct the situation.
      Let me remind you that neither the Republic of Ingushetia in 1914, nor the USSR in 1941, fundamentally technologically did not lag behind the Germans.
      1. Sexton
        Sexton 27 July 2022 15: 27
        +5
        The General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces does not have the concept of modern combat. It is not accepted, not developed.
        Combat operations in AtoN are carried out using outdated methods, without taking into account the possibility of using UAVs and modern means of reconnaissance and target designation in real time. This is unacceptable, but it is a fact.
        Because of this uncertainty, speculation and assumptions arise from different people about the role of UAVs. But sooner or later this concept must be accepted, and then everything will become simple and clear.
        The group of people with whom I communicate have a clear and understandable, well-considered concept of modern combat, and most importantly, quickly and easily implemented. Without a concept, the clever thoughts of the author of the article are scattered and primitive ...
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 27 July 2022 19: 57
          -1
          No concept? There is syas.
          Все.
          Land was not needed.
          How the Brezhnev generation was shell-shocked on June 22.
          So these leaders are flattened by the chatter of Shevardnadze and the MSG about "from Lisbon to Vlad." to fit into the world market, to accept their rules.
          Hence the "give 10 Av ..." instead of the videoconferencing and the land to control Eurasia. The worldview is a metropolis-colony for pumping money.
          Otherwise, it is necessary for the infantry to raise rural residents in swamps and steppes, not megacities.
          They deliberately did not develop tanks and infantry. Tank-rem and - builds factories are closed. Uralvagon - 1n.
          Arta seemed to be on the level.
          With difficulty, they saved the airborne forces.
          And military transport aviation.
          What about the new IL96, 76 and so on?
          The question is not in the UAV, but on the contrary, TO PREPARE FOR TRMV, FOR DEATH. no one wants to have a personal shroud in the trunk of their foreign car yet
        2. EvilLion
          EvilLion 28 July 2022 11: 45
          -5
          Can you name your rank, position, length of service and other indicators that would allow you to make such statements and not look like a juvenile screamer from the sofa, who never served and saw the tank only at the parade, or on the pedestal?
          1. Sexton
            Sexton 28 July 2022 12: 24
            0
            Before asking such a question, the army introduce themselves and ask permission to apply!
        3. Sedoy
          Sedoy 31 July 2022 01: 08
          +2
          The General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces does not have the concept of modern combat

          how is it not :)
          yes - Gerasimova
          She's the one who's proven wrong...
        4. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 31 July 2022 02: 05
          +1
          Quote: Sexton
          The General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces does not have the concept of modern combat. It is not accepted, not developed.

          And to send officers to learn from those who have it - national pride does not allow. This will destroy the image of "the most invincible army."

          When in the 90s all sorts of "Alfas" and "Vympels" went to Israel for an internship in anti-terror, censorship and a veil of secrecy around these visits was slightly inadequate. Apparently, the generals of the Brezhnev spill in the special services considered this terribly humiliating.
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 27 July 2022 19: 54
        +1
        They lagged behind in the general understanding of life and the direction of development of production relations and productive forces.
      3. SavranP
        SavranP 27 July 2022 20: 07
        +2
        According to paragraphs (1-3), a countermeasure has long been known - a "plasma cloud". Will destroy any number of drones in seconds. Cheap and cheerful. According to clause 4, a barrel of stones, blown up (scattered) in Starlink orbits, is guaranteed to destroy most of Mask's satellites. Moreover, the Americans admit that this network is used for military purposes. It is necessary to demand that Starlink go into orbits above 1000 km, orbits (300-500) km were reserved for orbital stations and there is nothing to capture them. Something like this. IMHO.
        1. Civil
          Civil 28 July 2022 07: 06
          +3
          Quote: SavranP
          According to paragraphs (1-3), a countermeasure has long been known - a "plasma cloud". Will destroy any number of drones in seconds. Cheap and cheerful. According to clause 4, a barrel of stones, blown up (scattered) in Starlink orbits, is guaranteed to destroy most of Mask's satellites. Moreover, the Americans admit that this network is used for military purposes. It is necessary to demand that Starlink go into orbits above 1000 km, orbits (300-500) km were reserved for orbital stations and there is nothing to capture them. Something like this. IMHO.

          How can you explain the term "plasma cloud" (this is a very controversial area, but this is not about that now), to decision makers who consider all these "computers" of yours to be frivolous toys, and UAVs should be studied in a children's circle of aircraft modeling. This gap is insurmountable.
          1. mitroha
            mitroha 28 July 2022 08: 03
            -5
            Quote: Civil
            decision makers who consider all these "computers" of yours to be frivolous toys, and UAVs should be studied in a children's aircraft modeling circle

            What nonsense ... You are looking at the "decision makers" in some wrong company, or deliberately exaggerating to the level of idiots, which shows your attitude towards colleagues and opponents.
            1. Civil
              Civil 28 July 2022 08: 11
              +3
              Quote: Mitroha
              What nonsense ... You are looking at the "decision makers" in some wrong company, or deliberately exaggerating to the level of idiots, which shows your attitude towards colleagues and opponents.

              Who said they are idiots? I mean that these people have grown up and lived their lives in different conditions with different challenges, they have a different experience and view of the current situation. And it is not their fault that they do not accept the information age. However, something needs to be done about it. There is a way out - the road to the young.
              Let them calm down, no one claims their power, let them put their children and grandchildren in their place.
          2. SavranP
            SavranP 29 July 2022 08: 05
            +1
            Sorry, please delayed reply. Ordinary coal or flour dust, which formed a suspension in the air, is extremely explosive. The rules of labor protection have long contained norms to prevent the formation of such a suspension. But this situation, the formation of a volumetric dust suspension in the path of a swarm of drones, can be created on purpose, in various ways. It is more technologically difficult and, at the same time, more acceptable for the military to use thermobaric ammunition against the swarms of drones you described.
            1. Civil
              Civil 29 July 2022 13: 53
              0
              Quote: SavranP
              Sorry, please delayed reply. Ordinary coal or flour dust, which formed a suspension in the air, is extremely explosive. The rules of labor protection have long contained norms to prevent the formation of such a suspension. But this situation, the formation of a volumetric dust suspension in the path of a swarm of drones, can be created on purpose, in various ways. It is more technologically difficult and, at the same time, more acceptable for the military to use thermobaric ammunition against the swarms of drones you described.

              The idea is good, of course it should be some kind of volumetric explosive material independent of weather conditions ... and (or) even smaller kamikaze drones. With remote or contact detonation of all at the same time.
              1. Sedoy
                Sedoy 31 July 2022 01: 18
                +1
                some volumetric explosive material must

                what else is voluminous - thermobaric ones have a small radius of action
                there are shells
      4. Vsevolod Sharikov
        Vsevolod Sharikov 28 July 2022 14: 29
        +3
        Kind. Absolutely agree with you. The technology of warfare is changing, and our army is too conservative.
    2. AML
      AML 27 July 2022 09: 36
      0
      Automatic weapons are now up to the ass, but the maximum losses so far are from barreled artillery. Nothing has changed in this regard in 100 years. So the 'royal rhetoric' has a foundation.

      For example, the well-coordinated work of a squad of snipers with mosquitoes may well hold back a company. And far from the fact that the company will prevail.

      I am neither for nor against your statement. I mean, there is a solution for every task. There are no universal solutions.

      As for the UAV. Let's be frank. This is the first time drones have been used in such numbers in NWO. The world has not yet accumulated enough information to declare with confidence what is right and what is wrong.

      Py, sy. A rare case, but in general I agree with the author.
      1. AAC
        AAC 27 July 2022 09: 51
        -1
        With a household drone for 80 rubles, I will unwind the entire squad of snipers with a couple of twos. They won't even know about this drone.
        1. AML
          AML 27 July 2022 10: 09
          +2
          I can bet on a case of beer that you have only seen a drone in pictures and in the movies.
          1. AAC
            AAC 27 July 2022 11: 30
            +8
            Write in a personal where to throw the video. I will write where to send the beer
            1. AML
              AML 27 July 2022 12: 03
              +4
              Sending is a desecration of beer, but paying is not an issue. I'll scratch in a couple of hours.
        2. EvilLion
          EvilLion 28 July 2022 11: 48
          -3
          Rather, the drone operator will never find snipers, because, for a minute, they are taught to hide. But you continue to believe in divine drones for a bucks piece that will solve all problems.
          1. AAC
            AAC 4 August 2022 12: 31
            0
            I used them. As experience has shown, most people who know how to hide do it well only in a horizontal projection. About the vertical while thinking poorly. There is no need to talk about helicopters before, this wonderful piece of iron flies at a speed of 200 km / h and with the naked eye from it in the summer in the forest you will find a FIG tank. A quadric works differently. If you hang it in advance over the intended location and slowly drive it back and forth, then you can find a lot of things in a 400x400 square. I myself was surprised when I was able to open my super scout squad. Of course, after that they became even super-duper. That's what they're training for.

            Of course, drones will not solve all problems for a single piece, or for muliens. But they change the course of trench warfare. There are more factors to consider when choosing a position and camouflage. Become more disciplined. Doesn't rely on the night that hides everything. Significantly simplify exploration of unfamiliar terrain. It's just a modern tool for warfare. And no more. Addition.
      2. Foul skeptic
        Foul skeptic 27 July 2022 11: 58
        +5
        For example, the well-coordinated work of a squad of snipers with mosquitoes may well hold back a company. And far from the fact that the company will prevail.

        Even if you continue to live in the first half of the 20th century, it is still a fantastic option.
        1. Harry.km
          Harry.km 27 July 2022 12: 41
          +3
          Quote: Nefarious skeptic
          Even if you continue to live in the first half of the 20th century, it is still a fantastic option.


          Well, they didn’t announce all the conditions ... if this squad goes on the attack on a company of motorized riflemen, then yes ... the victory scenario is similar to science fiction. But if it’s the other way around? Yes, on a hillock, but behind minefields, and even a rivulet 200 meters wide. yes, on the flanks of this compartment, a couple of "maxims" and water with cartridges are not measured? )))
          1. Foul skeptic
            Foul skeptic 27 July 2022 12: 58
            0
            Well, they didn’t announce all the conditions ... if this squad goes on the attack on a motorized rifle company, then yes ... the victory scenario is similar to science fiction.

            Well, the condition that the sniper squad is on the defensive, the enemy company is on the offensive, has been announced. There is no need to speculate here. And the rest of the innovations (not fabulous) in the conditions will change only the process, not the result.
          2. saigon
            saigon 28 July 2022 15: 47
            0
            Forgive me for getting into your conversation, but a company of motorized riflemen is also an infantry fighting vehicle with cannons and machine guns, and machine gunners in squads, so in the field or in the conditions you describe, I will put them on motorized riflemen.
            The reason is simple huge fire superiority.
        2. xASPIDx
          xASPIDx 27 July 2022 13: 10
          +5
          Does the sniper squad take into account that they can spend a package of hailstones on it? The real situation at the beginning of the work of our snipers from the MTR, the Ukrainians in response to a package of hailstones banged. And what will the department fight there after the arrival of the package?
      3. EvilLion
        EvilLion 28 July 2022 11: 47
        0
        In fact, even automatic weapons are almost never fired in long bursts. The rifle may not have such a mode at all
    3. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 31 July 2022 01: 49
      0
      Quote from Electric
      brings to mind royal rhetoric

      This happens when an amateur writes an article in a highly specialized field.
      A "narrow specialist with a wide profile" is a disease from the Soviet party past, when the ability to hang noodles from the podium was valued above professionalism.

      For the sake of example:
      "Zoo-1M" ​​perfectly detects mortars at a distance of 13-17 km, cannon artillery from 10-12 km, and MLRS - 15-22 km.

      And he is not a bit embarrassed that modern cannon artillery supplied to / from works from 30-40 km, and MLRS - up to 70-120 km.

      But this is a masterpiece:
      Russia seems to have S-500 missiles capable of "removing" global positioning system satellites from low orbit.

      He is not embarrassed that the satellites of the global positioning system, GPS for example, are in medium-high orbit, at an altitude of 20180 km.

      In short, the whole article is manilovism from an amateur.
  2. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 July 2022 09: 00
    +25
    Well, that's a very stupid title. Everything that makes life easier for a soldier and increases his combat capability is simply a necessity.
    1. Plate
      Plate 27 July 2022 09: 36
      +2
      The life of a soldier will be most facilitated by his absence from the battlefield.
      So I say: we need robots. Robots instead of tanks, robots instead of soldiers, robots instead of planes... robots, robots, robots... Riveting an army of terminators.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 27 July 2022 16: 35
        0
        The robot, in the event of a failure, will unscrew your own little head, it’s not scary to trust life to a piece of iron. fellow Have not yet come up with 100% reliability of a piece of iron.
        1. Plate
          Plate 27 July 2022 18: 09
          +4
          People with 100% reliability are also not made, alas. So in that regard, there is no difference.
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 28 July 2022 06: 35
            -2
            Chatterbox. But what about self-sacrifice when they go to ram or cover people with themselves? And hucksters and traitors are not our level.
            1. Plate
              Plate 28 July 2022 08: 20
              +2
              The robot will also sacrifice itself under certain conditions if you set them. Yes, and I can write the same about closing people: write to him in the code to close people - he will close.
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 28 July 2022 12: 44
                0
                You are a flying saucer, you mixed everything in one heap and you sit and scoff. People are people and do not compare them with iron.
    2. Sergei_tactics
      Sergei_tactics 27 July 2022 09: 36
      -1
      What's "stupid" about? The headline embodies a controversy in society that has been going on for a year now. We do not know how to normal, without maximalism. From "yes we need them" we, bypassing all the intermediate stages, go straight to "ahh, everything is gone, there are no UAVs, how long !?". What does the truth, as the author writes, in the middle
      1. Sedoy
        Sedoy 31 July 2022 01: 39
        -1
        What does the truth, as the author writes, in the middle

        yeah nothing like that...
        the author uses this as rhetoric, and the essence of the article is to justify the messed up mo
        after all, the essence of the issue is not that there is not enough of this or that weapon, but that I did not make applications for UAVs ...
        "Kronstadt" demonstrated its developments at exhibitions for a long time, but there was no order
        "conceptually, there are no drones in the Russian army, so there is no logistical or regulatory framework...
        its clearly showed that UAVs have become a systemic, end-to-end element of the progress of the armed forces ...
        they link practically all branches and types of the armed forces, as an element of obligatory innovation...
        and this entails issues of communication, interspecific coordination, transition to high-precision munitions standards and accurate target designation ...
        it's like in the Crimean War, when Russia made a mistake to rearm with rifled weapons ...
        the point is the systematic introduction of new standards for command and control of the armed forces, where unmanned aircraft is its obligatory, through element..." ©
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    3. Alien From
      Alien From 27 July 2022 10: 17
      0
      And one more thing, while we save THEIR lives, we lose OURS! You can't fry an egg without breaking eggs!
  3. Cartalon
    Cartalon 27 July 2022 09: 14
    +8
    Does the author have experience in input control with and without a drone?
    1. Ryusei
      Ryusei 27 July 2022 10: 00
      -7
      And you have such experience, I doubt it.)
      1. Cartalon
        Cartalon 27 July 2022 10: 10
        +8
        And I don’t make statements about their uselessness
        1. Sergei_tactics
          Sergei_tactics 28 July 2022 06: 32
          -1
          Well, as I understand it, you (having no experience in commanding any military unit) question the words of the author?
  4. stankow
    stankow 27 July 2022 09: 26
    +5
    GPS satellites are not in low, but in medium orbit, 21000 km. And the S-500 can't get them.
    1. DenVB
      DenVB 27 July 2022 13: 56
      -1
      Quote: stankow
      GPS satellites are not in low, but in medium orbit, 21000 km. And the S-500 can't get them.

      Oh, that's it!
  5. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 27 July 2022 09: 26
    +5
    Drone for the Russian soldier: needed or not?
    Yes, somehow the need for an UAV, no one disputes ...
  6. Paladin
    Paladin 27 July 2022 09: 27
    +7
    In fact, if there is a shortage of drones somewhere, it is in the armies of the republics.

    Right now, in full contact, the commander of "Pyatnashka" Ardzinba said that they are hanging in the sky 24/7 and are also helping their neighbors. Maybe the problem is whether the commander and MTO took care of it or not.
    According to the testimony of the ukrov themselves - "Russians hang over us constantly, day and night."
    Well said about the squeal good
  7. Arkady007
    Arkady007 27 July 2022 09: 36
    +1
    UAVs are needed in principle - period.
    And then we will figure out how to use them, where, who and how.
    Deep scientific work is needed in this direction.
  8. Thorvlobnor IV
    Thorvlobnor IV 27 July 2022 09: 39
    +26
    Interestingly, the author has heard of such an unsightly, but ultra-useful drone, like the RQ-11 Raven? 2 kg weight, hand launch, 10 km operating radius. In the armies of a healthy person, such drones are the eyes of the unit, which allow you to forget about such tactics as "reconnaissance in force" and save the lives of soldiers. In the smoker's armies, units rely solely on intelligence from their higher command, because it is customary for them to have recon drones at the brigade / division level, and the command decides where to send the drone for reconnaissance. And if you need to inspect that forest over there, well, send the fighters there, maybe you'll be lucky.
    If you look at the number of Raven operating countries, it becomes clear that the armies of a healthy person are focused on increasing the tactical awareness of units, because their survivability and usefulness on the battlefield directly depend on this.
    1. trenkkvaz
      trenkkvaz 27 July 2022 23: 36
      -2
      You propose to rely on the fact that people saw something there on their monitor, from a camera that shoots from a great distance? And then you send the entire unit to the slaughter without reconnaissance in force?
      The enemy is not stupid, he can disguise himself in such a way that you cannot see him from the air.
      1. Thorvlobnor IV
        Thorvlobnor IV 28 July 2022 08: 56
        +4
        I suggest you agree that more information is better than less information. Something I have not heard about units that would refuse reconnaissance from the air because "what if we don't see something from above."
        1. trenkkvaz
          trenkkvaz 28 July 2022 11: 23
          +1
          One does not interfere with the other. I'm talking about the fact that it is impossible to abandon reconnaissance in force. And reconnaissance from the air has been used since the 19th century. But at the same time they continue to conduct reconnaissance in force. Because this is the most reliable tool. No UAV will replace it.
          The only thing that can replace human reconnaissance is combat reconnaissance, with the help of some kind of ground-based robotic drones.
          1. Thorvlobnor IV
            Thorvlobnor IV 28 July 2022 17: 24
            +2
            Aerial reconnaissance has been known since the time of hot air balloons, but only drones made it possible for round-the-clock (!) reconnaissance. Consider again our "forest": one flight of "Orlan-10" per day (as the command decided) may not give us any information about the enemy, because if there is an ambush, then, having heard this flying lawn mower, the enemy will do everything so that he is not detected . And if we have a Raven, oh, excuse me, "Voron-M", we can fly to the forest as much as we like, fly around it from a height of 50 meters, and, sooner or later, we will spot someone who is fucking, someone supper, someone who lost his vigilance. With known consequences, of course.
  9. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 27 July 2022 09: 42
    +18
    I think the question of whether UAVs are needed in the troops is far-fetched. There are a lot of video materials in which "fighters from the fields" talk about the need for UAVs, and with different functionality. UAVs will not win the war, but they will make it easier to complete tasks and save the lives of the fighters who win the war. The question is closed.
    1. AML
      AML 27 July 2022 10: 23
      +2
      Here they do not argue that they are needed. Of course needed. There are discussions about what saturation should be and at what level.

      With some fanaticism, you can get to the point that every fighter needs a reconnaissance drone with 10 Kamikaze Drones. Immediately, the majority does not think about how he will carry them, where he will charge the batteries.

      Recently, my niece was running and screaming that something was wrong with the laptop. There is wifi, but no internet. For today's youth, Wi-Fi = Internet. And the electricity comes from the outlet.
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 27 July 2022 19: 44
        +3
        And the electricity comes from the outlet.
        Ilf and Petrov said about such people that they think that cottage cheese is obtained from dumplings. For 90 years, special progress is not visible.
  10. AAC
    AAC 27 July 2022 09: 46
    +19
    From my experience of using a drone (household) at the battalion level in the curriculum. One is not enough. You need at least two per company. One single torment with batteries. You can't hang it continuously for a day. Needs to be changed very often. But real-time information without blunts on the radio from the fighters. For this, you can take risks. Whoever gave the command to maneuver in time, he won in the oncoming battle. When attacking fortifications, a pre-detected pillbox is a significant reduction in losses. Thermal imager at night - the whole forest / field at a glance. If the fighters navigate in the night forest, then the cleaning becomes a matter of technique. I can hide the group from ground heatpacks at night and organize a raid, and one unfortunate quadric will burn the whole group and the situation will be reversed. In terms of management, the thing is indispensable. As for the detection of an EMP source, having a sad experience, I would simply set up traps - emitters at adjacent frequencies in an open field to attract mines from the enemy. Let them hammer into the void.
    1. Thorvlobnor IV
      Thorvlobnor IV 27 July 2022 09: 58
      +5
      The probability of detecting an EMP source can be greatly reduced by using highly directional antennas and repeater drones.
      1. AAC
        AAC 27 July 2022 12: 03
        +5
        Well, it's a whole system. Here one drone for 400 snouts was already a miracle. And you propose to form a whole network.
        1. Thorvlobnor IV
          Thorvlobnor IV 28 July 2022 11: 22
          0
          It's not that difficult. We take a tethered repeater copter with cable power, launch it at a safe distance. We send commands to control a narrow beam of low power to it, and it already relays them to the right place, taking advantage of being at a height.
    2. dauria
      dauria 28 July 2022 00: 05
      +2
      I would just put traps - emitters at adjacent frequencies in an open field

      And this is a smart idea. Moreover, the Chinese NRF24 L01 module, paired with an arduino and a 2200 mAh battery, will work for 6 hours of transmission (this is verified), the power and range are similar to household RC kits for Freesky and flysky drones. It is easy to organize an algorithm similar to real control. And worth every penny. I speak in all seriousness, I had a chance to make and compare home-made controls with industrial household goods. And given the level of techies in Ukraine, they were able to rivet such a blende for a long time. recourse
    3. Serg4545
      Serg4545 28 July 2022 15: 46
      +1
      Quote: AAC
      As for the detection of an EMP source, having a sad experience, I would simply set up traps - emitters at adjacent frequencies in an open field to attract mines from the enemy. Let them hammer into the void.


      Everything is easier:
      Make the antenna from which the control signal comes, removable. I threw a wire with an antenna 500 meters from the operator, let the enemy hammer. If the antenna (worth 2 bucks) is damaged, we fasten a new one and you can continue to control the UAV.
  11. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 27 July 2022 09: 58
    +8
    Of course, some people want to compensate for their unpreparedness with a drone. “Oh, we will not go on the attack on the farm, so the enemy dug in. We saw it from a drone. Call in tanks, aircraft and artillery." This is instead of developing a smart plan and implementing it.

    The development of an intelligent plan, in fact, just involves one of the points of calling the fire of supporting artillery. Because at the disposal of the commander, up to and including the battalion, there are only mortars, with which it will take a long time to chop up the defense - slowing down the pace of the offensive and enabling the enemy to build defenses at more distant lines.
  12. MegaWattExpert
    MegaWattExpert 27 July 2022 09: 58
    +14
    Because of such articles, many Russian soldiers will die
  13. Ruby
    Ruby 27 July 2022 10: 13
    +19
    Here is the same thing as in the article, only in words and in person, the author should say to the assault platoon that is fighting in the city.
    By the way, the statement about the lack of UAVs in the armies of the LDNR is complete nonsense. On the contrary, it was they who were surprised, especially at the initial stage, how the Russian army was going to fight without tactical (that is, platoon or detached) level copters. For 8 years they have not raised any doubts about this issue.
    Large drones are always good, this is the brigade level and above. This is the collection of big data on the basis of which uncles with big stars plan operations. But the ability to see what's behind the fence, or on the next street, detect the position of the enemy, and work on it in real time from standard or attached weapons, really saves a lot of lives on the front line. And this is the lower level, squad-platoon-company. I already wrote that, ideally, the copter should be in the ammo rack of each armored personnel carrier and infantry fighting vehicle as a standard equipment of the squad, and not just one.
  14. AML
    AML 27 July 2022 10: 14
    0
    Quote: Ros 56
    Well, that's a very stupid title. Everything that makes life easier for a soldier and increases his combat capability is simply a necessity.

    And everything that does not interfere with the performance of a combat mission. Technologically, now it’s not a problem to make armor from a 30mm projectile. But the fighter will be very sad to carry him.
    1. Harry.km
      Harry.km 27 July 2022 12: 51
      +6
      Quote: AML
      Technologically, now it’s not a problem to make armor from a 30mm projectile.


      What would happen, as in a joke: Those who were without armor were torn to pieces, and those who were in armor were lying as if they were alive?
  15. AML
    AML 27 July 2022 10: 32
    -7
    Quote: Torvlobnor IV
    Interestingly, the author has heard of such an unsightly, but ultra-useful drone, like the RQ-11 Raven? 2 kg weight, hand launch, 10 km operating radius. In the armies of a healthy person, such drones -

    Do you drown for an hour not for the APU? There are no terminators in the Russian army. There are ordinary people. Take 2 kg in a rucksack and roam from the heels of kilometers over rough terrain, and then tell us how it is.

    Well, I would like to hear about the 'healthy man' army that uses drones with such intensity.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 27 July 2022 10: 53
      +11
      Quote: AML
      Quote: Torvlobnor IV
      Interestingly, the author has heard of such an unsightly, but ultra-useful drone, like the RQ-11 Raven? 2 kg weight, hand launch, 10 km operating radius. In the armies of a healthy person, such drones -

      Do you drown for an hour not for the APU? There are no terminators in the Russian army. There are ordinary people. Take 2 kg in a rucksack and roam from the heels of kilometers over rough terrain, and then tell us how it is.

      Well, I would like to hear about the 'healthy man' army that uses drones with such intensity.

      Kalash also weighs a lot, and running with it is not very convenient. Let's throw it away, so it will be easier for the fighter. wassat
    2. Thorvlobnor IV
      Thorvlobnor IV 27 July 2022 11: 25
      +8
      I am always very worried about machine gunners - after all, a machine gun is much heavier than an assault rifle.
      And in the armies of a healthy person, by the way, drones like Raven are consumables, although they cost like a good car. And the authorities will not scold you if you lost it while performing a combat mission.
      1. stankow
        stankow 27 July 2022 16: 33
        +2
        You have to worry about fighters with ATGMs. Machine gunners still nothing.
  16. Alekandr
    Alekandr 27 July 2022 10: 43
    +12
    Where does the author get information about a sufficient number of Orlan-type UAVs? On the NMD front, the Armed Forces organized a continuous observation zone to a depth of 50 km? Where does the information about the readiness for counter-battery combat of the RF Armed Forces come from? Artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine stopped hitting Donetsk?
  17. Non-fighter
    Non-fighter 27 July 2022 10: 53
    0
    But let's be honest: if someone is to blame for the fact that the army of the LPR (I don’t know for the DPR) turned out to be without drones, the leadership of the LPR is to blame, which simply banned UAVs in the republic. Any.

    I may be wrong, but the problem there was that drones were banned in the Donbass. ANY!!! Only the peacekeepers, the monitoring commission. I remember there was noise in the news when, somewhere in the autumn-winter of 2012-2022, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to use their drones, they wrote that this was a violation of the agreements.
    What some "experts" say about the presence of UAVs in the "squad-platoon" line is nonsense. And the presence of such devices in the field, with untrained operators, and even without meeting the standards and requirements, is harmful.

    Here on the site in the comments there was a smart idea. The platoon has a section of heavy machine guns. State - 2 soldiers. So we are changing it to a squad of drones and robotic platforms, that is, we have a dedicated and trained operator as part of a platoon.
  18. AML
    AML 27 July 2022 11: 07
    0
    Quote: BlackMokona

    Kalash also weighs a lot, and running with it is not very convenient. Let's throw it away, so it will be easier for the fighter. wassat

    That people somehow do not catch up that the fighter still has a bunch of all sorts of crap with him. It happens that the extra 100 grams are felt. And then bold arguments about kilograms. Let's give each fighter a tactical shield. And what are they strong, they can. In contrast, they run.
  19. Tavrik
    Tavrik 27 July 2022 11: 20
    +6
    Quote: AML
    With some fanaticism, you can get to the point that every fighter needs a reconnaissance drone with 10 Kamikaze Drones. Immediately, the majority does not think about how he will carry them, where he will charge the batteries.

    It is quite possible that we will get to that. An assault rifle with an underbarrel grenade launcher has already been given to each fighter, as well as night vision devices. radio station. In World War I, such equipment for a soldier would have seemed fantastic. And even the second one.
    1. AML
      AML 27 July 2022 11: 56
      +4
      Here the question is already looming not just of the physical capabilities of a person, but of the mental state and rapid psycho-emotional unloading.
      Exoskeleton + Augmented reality glasses with tracking the position of the eyes and their focus + machine intelligence capable of recognizing objects with high accuracy and not just based on the base of embedded images, but 'thinking' options and a clear division into one's own / another's + global network-centric at all levels + external control weapons.

      Is it achievable? Quite. Some part is quite realizable today
      But, in any case, this is the war of the future.

      And, of course, there is the question. But will a fighter be able to fight, in the absence of all these goodies.
      After all, we laugh at the Americans that they do not orient themselves on paper topographic maps.
      1. AAC
        AAC 27 July 2022 12: 19
        +8
        What's so funny? I splurged on American watches that support maps and now I can run through the forest like a saiga at night on night vision. Absolutely not thinking about the compass, landmarks, the distance traveled. I always know exactly where I am and where to go. Take this miracle watch away from me and my speed will drop four times. I will have to think, check, clarify. And even laugh. I just won't give them away. The fact is that first you need to learn how to work with maps, and then give navigators.
    2. stankow
      stankow 27 July 2022 16: 36
      +1
      Not even every department has a radio station, not like a soldier has.
  20. Foul skeptic
    Foul skeptic 27 July 2022 11: 38
    +7
    It seems that the article was written by the youngest of the Skomorokhovs, very weak conclusions and eye-catching absurdities, like
    simulated radiation beam
    1. Aag
      Aag 28 July 2022 11: 27
      +1
      Quote: A vile skeptic
      It seems that the article was written by the youngest of the Skomorokhovs, very weak conclusions and eye-catching absurdities, like
      simulated radiation beam

      "... the youngest of the Skomorokhovs..."good
      I have somewhat different concerns - judging by the changed rhetoric of the Author in recent articles, it seems that the relevant authorities have worked with him.
      Or, - "works under control" (remember the movie "Omega Option"?).))) hi
  21. Fedor1
    Fedor1 27 July 2022 11: 53
    +13
    I didn’t read the article, since the author protects and encloses embezzlers because of whom they suffered so many losses in the conflict and it’s not even about drones alone.
  22. Gaersul
    Gaersul 27 July 2022 12: 09
    +1
    This will work only where this device will not be hit by a rocket or a beam of simulated radiation that turns the control equipment into trash.

    Greetings. Question to the author of the article or to knowledgeable people. Can you explain what "simulated radiation" is?
    1. Tavrik
      Tavrik 27 July 2022 12: 13
      +1
      Well, the person was sealed. Apparently modulated.
      You just have to read what you write before sending it.
      1. AML
        AML 27 July 2022 12: 39
        0
        In this case, it was sealed, but this thesis also has the right to life. Modulated is something that does not have a finite description - for example, a video stream. Modeled can be understood as a set of modulations that make up a control command or a whole set of commands. command = model.

        If we omit the nuances, then a simulated signal can be understood as a control flow.
        And yes, the modulation can be mixed Am + chm, Am + FM.
        FM + FM is also possible, but a lot of hemorrhoids with separation.
      2. Gaersul
        Gaersul 27 July 2022 12: 41
        +3
        Thanks to. It remains to understand how the "radiation beam" will turn the equipment into trash.
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 27 July 2022 19: 57
          0
          It remains to understand how the "radiation beam" will turn the equipment into trash.
          Nobody knows this, not even the author himself. Odessan Gridasov could explain, but he is in occupied Odessa and excommunicated from the VO. And there is no Olgovich from Moldova, I even began to miss this weirdo.
  23. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 27 July 2022 12: 15
    +8
    I'm proud! Only "... adts" years "and I began to recognize Skomorokhov's article from the very first fragment, without looking for the" signature "! This means that Skomorokhov has already developed his own style, his own "handwriting"! Well, we are tying up with "romanticism" ... we begin to "analyze"! Why "a drone in each department" is bad, I still don't understand! If we "remember" video reports (and not only videos!) of military correspondents ... interviews with militia commanders; then we will hear statements that drones are also very necessary for "each squad" (!) ... their presence would make it possible to avoid many of the problems that have occurred! drones in "each department", but the militia does not have this! Take Mariupol ... how the Kadyrovites worked ... Cleaning the streets of the city is carried out in small groups ... one might say, "branches"! It is highly likely that the "blind" group "easily "can fall under the shots of a sniper, machine gunner, grenade launcher chica, ATGM! But the presence of drones among the Kadyrovites made it possible to detect ambushes, weapons of "mass destruction" in time! I watched a video where the Kadyrovites discovered with the help of a drone a sniper who was waiting for them in the ruins of "Azovstal" and began to "drive" him with the help of a UAV! Now, if it were possible to hang a couple of "bombs", as in a report on the "shock" "Orlan-10", then it would be even "healthier"! Look, the Americans are not "embarrassed" to develop small-caliber air ammunition in the "form factor" of 60-mm mines! So the presence of a "reconnaissance-strike" small drone will not be superfluous for an infantry squad!
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 27 July 2022 13: 31
      +9
      PSAnd when the cries began that without drones there was nowhere and nothing, when the volunteers unanimously dragged armfuls of Chinese drones, that's when the Ukrainian military began to joyfully rub their hands. Because with the help of completely simple devices and manipulations, it is possible to very accurately calculate the location of the latter from the exchange signals between the UAV and the operator. More precisely, his smartphone, which is used as a transceiver. And send a few dozen mines or shells there.
      I heard a glimpse of drones controlled from a smartphone ... But I also heard that the people already felt that how much they ask volunteers to get quadrocopters, even if they are Chinese, but controlled from an "independent" remote control and a secure (as far as possible) channel ... Considering that now not "in all places" the Armed Forces of Ukraine have established electronic warfare and electronic intelligence, this will do ...
      All these rather stupid arguments about drones that “hack” enemy air defense systems should also be dismissed as unnecessary. Air defense systems are perfectly handled by cruise missiles and anti-radar missiles. No need to reinvent the wheel, everything has already been invented. These are “kamikaze” drones, carrying a small explosive charge, often simply unable to cause proper harm. Unlike a cruise missile, which flies several times faster, and its charge is quite decent.
      Well everything! Roman wiped his nose to the Israelis! Israel, with its combat experience, considers it necessary to have "kamikaze" anti-radar drones, but Skomorokhov took it and canceled it! What are the advantages of "anti-radar" drones? And what are the "cons" of PR missiles? In addition to the Kh-31 PRR, the older Kh-25 and Kh-29 PRRs are also used ... You can protect yourself from them by trying to "turn off" the radar in time ... and the first modifications of the Kh-31 had about the same thing, except with supersonic speed X-31 in time to "turn off" the radar is much more problematic! Of course, you can say: "and that's bread" ... if the radar is "off", then the zur is not aimed, and the plane will be able to leave the danger zone! But still ... if the radar is turned off when a kamikaze drone with a passive radar seeker attacks a target, then the drone will be able to interrupt the attack and barrage "nearby" or "far away"! An "alternative" will appear before the radar operators: either turn on and be hit; or "keep your mouth shut", not see the goal and save yourself for the children... present or future ! And is it worth it to worry about the small charge? Firstly, there are all sorts of loitering ammunition (Iranian UAV example); secondly, to hit a counter-battery radar of the "Aistenok" type and a small charge is enough! Thirdly, have you forgotten about such a concept as a "swarm" of UAVs? "Add" several small charges to get one large one...not feng shui?
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 27 July 2022 16: 43
        +3
        PPS Also, UAVs are capable of implementing the concept: atmospheric satellites "... I will not mention the American "dream": ultra-light "solar" UAVs that can stick around in the atmosphere "forever" ... or airships (balloons)! This does not suit us! We rather "weighty" UAVs are better suited, capable of carrying not only reconnaissance equipment, but also weapons, and being in the air for 20-24 hours ... Such UAVs should isolate ("cover") the "actual" theater ... The number of UAVs must be calculated based on the required "working" number of drones + the same number of "shifters" + reserve for loss compensation! The "area" of duty UAVs must cover the S-400 air defense system from enemy aircraft ... satellites "will be equipped with radio direction finders and V-V anti-missiles similar to CUDO ... Of course, UAVs will be equipped with both V-P missiles and optoelectronic systems ... and possibly radars ... (at least some of them)! The task is to immediately attack everything that "moves"!simple ... but a great power should be able to do it! (Does Russia not want to be a great power?)
  24. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 27 July 2022 12: 29
    +4
    All types of UAVs are needed ...
    1. Hunter ... - just look at the losses of the Su34, Su25 .... and take into account that the control center for our aircraft is given from the AWACS of the NATO countries ... i.e. stealth characteristics will quite help him to be in the air and bomb.
    2 Middle type Altius...we have gaps in the intelligence of Western and Central Ukraine...they would make up for this business and the supply of weapons would be many times less.
    3. Orion - the same about above the theater and near rear
    4. Light class - above the battlefield and at each battery.
  25. smaug78
    smaug78 27 July 2022 13: 15
    +9
    The author, they have been talking about saturating the army with drones since 2014, and things are still there. Hooray - a propagandist is much more dangerous for the country than a liberal one ...
  26. Zenn
    Zenn 27 July 2022 13: 22
    +9
    Here one feels a real military school in the author, only a real pupil of the Red Army in one article will put
    but why did the colonels and lieutenant colonels, who began by hook or by crook to get drones for themselves, calmly signed all the necessary requirements during their service, without mentioning such a problem?
    and a few paragraphs later
    But it must be the "correct" drone, with the correct, trained operator, acting in accordance with the orders of the command.
    and no pattern break in the author's head.
    That is, six months ago, the colonels did not see the need for UAVs at all, and now they demand to provide it not only with UAVs, but with the "correct" UAVs and operators, and now the colonel is ready to give the "correct" orders for the use of UAVs. And the question is who does he require to provide? If six months ago he convinced that he did not need UAVs and operators. Our army is strong with oaks.
  27. AML
    AML 27 July 2022 13: 27
    0
    Quote: Harry.km
    Quote: AML
    Technologically, now it’s not a problem to make armor from a 30mm projectile.


    What would happen, as in a joke: Those who were without armor were torn to pieces, and those who were in armor were lying as if they were alive?


    Jelly can't lie as if alive. But no extra holes.
  28. AML
    AML 27 July 2022 13: 58
    -2
    Quote: Gaersul
    Thanks to. It remains to understand how the "radiation beam" will turn the equipment into trash.


    In the literal sense, in the trash - hardly. It meant that the transceiver equipment would become unusable. If you put a lot of electromagnetic power into the receiver, then the receiving stages will burn out, and the receiver will become a stool. If on the ground it is possible to protect yourself with a spark gap, then in the air it will not work, because there is nowhere to take the electrons. If the radiated power is too much, then a breakdown of the internal elements may occur due to the potential difference.

    Plus / minus similar effects can be made with thermal imaging matrices - a laser. There will be no hole in the matrix itself, but it will not be able to function, at least for a certain period of time due to oversaturation, as a maximum forever.

    And don't forget about atmospheric electricity. The higher the object (up to 7 km if memory serves), the greater its charge (+ 120-300V for each meter of height). If you shoot with an ultraviolet laser, then a mass exodus of electrons can begin at the point of contact (depending on the surface material), which can lead to a short circuit. 30kV pierce through 1cm of air
    1. Gaersul
      Gaersul 28 July 2022 09: 25
      0
      It meant that the transceiver equipment would become unusable. If you put a lot of electromagnetic power into the receiver, then the receiving stages will burn out, and the receiver will become a stool. If on the ground you can protect yourself with a spark gap, then in the air it will not work, because there is nowhere to take the electrons. If the radiated power is too much, then a breakdown of the internal elements may occur due to the potential difference.
      Greetings. That is, do I understand correctly that such a circuit solution as a protection attenuator, which was previously used in every receiver, is firmly and forever forgotten?
  29. archiroll
    archiroll 27 July 2022 14: 17
    0
    Drns were needed yesterday - but the future belongs to a certain algorithm that will be one of those resources that have to choose tactics ...
  30. spektr9
    spektr9 27 July 2022 14: 26
    +2
    And, of course, the media. Only they are responsible for the fact that UAVs suddenly began to play such an important role on the battlefield

    So who, according to the author, is to blame for the effectiveness of the BLPA laughing
    Isn't it time for the authors of such articles to be imprisoned for sabotage?
  31. AML
    AML 27 July 2022 15: 19
    -3
    Quote: A vile skeptic
    Well, they didn’t announce all the conditions ... if this squad goes on the attack on a motorized rifle company, then yes ... the victory scenario is similar to science fiction.

    Well, the condition that the sniper squad is on the defensive, the enemy company is on the offensive, has been announced. There is no need to speculate here. And the rest of the innovations (not fabulous) in the conditions will change only the process, not the result.

    The mosquito has an effective range of 1300-2000 m
    The sniper is able to accurately fire 5-7 shots per minute.
    in 4-5 minutes the whole company can be mowed down. Here's some simple math.
  32. Fima
    Fima 27 July 2022 16: 43
    +1
    About the "grassroots composition". Teach the fighter to memorize pre-issued map sheets of the intended area of ​​movement with a legend (and with cut edges). Simulation of enemy actions. It will take 0.5 hours per day. The compass will be replaced by the sun (in any weather you can determine, in extreme cases, cheap polarizing glass) and a watch. And only then the use of UAVs of the leading edge, with a strong reduction in "communication time on the air." I myself tried this on Chinese toys. And the ability to memorize sheets is very useful. I travel by taxi on a non-rubber one (crutch troops) and very often show the driver the detour routes with my finger and not the yellow navigator.
  33. acetophenone
    acetophenone 27 July 2022 22: 13
    +1
    Until we restore our microelectronics and at least start making microcircuits ourselves.
    Sorry, didn't read further. The rhetoric of an amateur is not interesting.
  34. Moneron
    Moneron 28 July 2022 04: 58
    +6
    the author of this article is the enemy. and a conscious enemy...regardless of that. in the name of what he wrote this shit .... the corporate honor of the uniform. or your own stupidity.
    this should not be surprising.
    it’s enough to see the “performance” of the former officer of the General Staff Trukhan on the computer ... the drunken tsarist cab driver expressed himself more cultured than this “specialist”. and all in a halo of military secrecy.
    as long as such "specialists" are in favor, we will suffer unjustified losses.
  35. AML
    AML 28 July 2022 10: 01
    +1
    Quote: Gaersul
    Greetings. That is, do I understand correctly that such a circuit solution as a protection attenuator, which was previously used in every receiver, is firmly and forever forgotten?

    You can reduce the input signal level in some ranges, nothing has changed here. But there is simply nowhere to throw off a charge exceeding the threshold in the air. On the ground, arresters are used to protect overhead lines. The mechanical relay simply physically does not have time to work. The semiconductor is too small to breakdown. I understand that you are trolling, but have you ever wondered why lightning rods are needed in the 21st century? You can just tap into the outlet and business. Almost all modern electronics are powered through power decoupled pulsers. She will be Hurley.
    1. Gaersul
      Gaersul 28 July 2022 11: 00
      0
      I understand that you are trolling
      Why do you think so? I'm really interested - this time. And two, it’s not clear to me how you can burn the receiver, let’s say with a certain emitter (to burn it, or rather, how expedient it is to do it at all, maybe it’s easier to score with interference?). As far as I remember, when a certain threshold is exceeded, the signal simply sits on the case (this is how the protection attenuator usually works, let's say on the same pin diodes), but we are talking about drone control equipment, and there, as a rule, the microwave range.
      The mechanical relay simply physically does not have time to work.
      Well, how to say, there are also microwave relays, they work quite well in the range up to 3-3,5 GHz (yes, GigaHertz), though they are imported. Domestic analogues seem to have also recently begun to be produced, but they have not yet been seen in the eye.
  36. N3onMiami
    N3onMiami 28 July 2022 10: 32
    0
    Drones are definitely needed!
    Not every fighter, of course, personally in the hands, but to be at the level of a squad or at least a platoon. And to teach the entire HP of the unit to operate the device. So that in the event of the death or injury of the operator, he could be replaced by any other fighter.
    Why? Because UAVs in modern conflicts are indispensable eyes of intelligence, significantly increasing the tactical awareness of units and, accordingly, their survival on the battlefield and, consequently, the performance of combat missions.
    We need both reconnaissance UAVs of various calibers and attack ones (read about the American RQ). Where is Altius? Where is the Hunter? Where is everything that Russia 1, Channel One, TK Zvezda and other propagandists told us about?

    It is very strange that no conclusions were drawn from the war in Karabakh.
  37. EvilLion
    EvilLion 28 July 2022 11: 42
    -2
    Not so long ago, I tried to explain why the UAV is far from omnipotent and it is unrealistic to compare the view from the drone of the square where the people gathered in the city and conducting reconnaissance of territories with an area of ​​​​square kilometers. Drones weighing several kilograms are simply not capable of such a task. And they are not officially in service with any army in the world. And larger models that can fly fast enough, hang for a long time and carry some equipment besides a disgusting camera, this is a completely different class. Yes, and observation even through an ideal camera from a height of hundreds of meters physically does not allow much to be seen on the ground.

    Therefore, drones have only one tactic - additional reconnaissance of places where there is reason to expect the presence of an enemy. And to look for some kind of ambushes along the road, or another search for something there on a large territory - this, excuse me, is nonsense.
  38. AML
    AML 28 July 2022 11: 59
    +1
    Quote: Gaersul
    I'm really interested - this time. And two, it’s not clear to me how you can burn the receiver, let’s say with a certain emitter (to burn it, or rather, how expedient it is to do it at all, maybe it’s easier to score with interference?). As far as I remember, when a certain threshold is exceeded, the signal simply sits on the case

    In this case, the case must be grounded. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.
    Zero and earth are two different things. There is a potential difference between zero and ground.
    You can see how elements are assembled manually. The installer has an antistatic wrist strap on his arm, which is grounded. This ensures that the static induced on the human body does not merge somewhere into the circuit. Elements on the board may fail, which is not connected anywhere at all, but simply lies on the table.

    Semiconductors have a thermal breakdown mode, when the device is not able to dissipate the power released on the element. At this moment, the element may well catch fire and physically burn both itself and the device in which it is located.

    Electronic warfare requires less energy and for this it is not necessary to physically destroy the device. The simplest option is desynchronization - carrier suppression or signal aperture stretching. This is a kind of analogy to the operation of headlights, in which by summing or subtracting signals, opposite results can be obtained. Including completely suppress. In old tube TVs, desynchronization manifested itself as frames running horizontally or vertically. In fact, there is an image, but the film is unrealistic to watch.

    Yes, of course you can fight a reb.
    This includes coding and error correction, etc. when things are really bad. Then the device can try to return to base on its own. If he has an inertial, then this is possible with a high degree of probability

    Quote: Gaersul

    , we are talking about drone control equipment, and there, as a rule, the microwave range.

    At the input of any receiver is a reactive filter. If the front of the emitted wave grows faster than the filter is able to digest, then either it or the first stage behind it will fail. And no matter what happens next in the scheme, the receiver is no longer working.
    Plus, high voltage can step over the element. For example, we have a container in the first cascade with a standard distance between the legs of 2.5 mm. When hitting the entrance of 10 kV, an arc will be drawn between the legs. That is, there is no capacitor. All charge energy will go to the input stage semiconductor with all the consequences.

    To achieve high energies, the radiation is focused into a beam. That is, they try to concentrate the radiated energy as much as possible in one direction.

    Ultraviolet, infrared, visible is all electromagnetic radiation.
    A laser is a coherent radiation, i.e. a highly focused beam.

    Quote: Gaersul

    Well, how to say, there is also a microwave relay, it works quite well in the range up to 3-3,5 GHz (yes, it’s GigaHertz)

    No, there is another physics of the process. A 1 microfarad capacitor at 16v will weigh a couple of grams. A capacitor of the same capacity but for a couple of kilovolts will already weigh kilograms, and maybe tens of kilograms
    Of course, there are relays, at least high-frequency thyristors. But they are all low voltage.

    Heh :)
    1. Gaersul
      Gaersul 28 July 2022 12: 19
      +1

      In this case, the case must be grounded. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.
      Hmm... And how is this problem solved in space equipment? And just in the air? Why don't satellites/planes burst into flames?
    2. Gaersul
      Gaersul 28 July 2022 12: 35
      0
      For example, we have a container in the first cascade with a standard distance between the legs of 2.5 mm. When hitting the entrance of 10 kV, an arc will be drawn between the legs.
      Excuse me, but where will these 10 kV come from? Or are you conditional?
      If the front of the emitted wave grows faster than the filter is able to digest, then either it or the first stage behind it will fail. And no matter what happens next in the scheme, the receiver is no longer working.
      Isn't the protection attenuator placed just behind the input filter?
      Let's put it even simpler. I can’t imagine how, not only in acceptable, but even in unacceptable dimensions, to make a device that will burn the receiver at a distance of at least 10 km.
      1. AML
        AML 28 July 2022 13: 24
        +1
        Quote: Gaersul
        I can’t imagine how, not only in acceptable, but even in unacceptable dimensions, to make a device that will burn the receiver at a distance of at least 10 km.


        Let's just say, I don't know about devices capable of inducing such power. But that doesn't mean they don't exist. In the USSR, they were honored to make a 15 KW VHF military radio station, which pushed through everything that moved and it was portable.

        + a pair of stationary megawatt HF transmitters. On the antenna field, the incandescent lamps shone in full filament.

        Sobsno, the main idea that I was trying to convey. There is no need to distort the entire structure, it is enough to completely or partially disable some part. In the receiver, this is the input stage, designed for an input signal at the microvolt level.
  39. AML
    AML 28 July 2022 12: 36
    +1
    Quote: Gaersul

    In this case, the case must be grounded. Otherwise it doesn't make sense.
    Hmm... And how is this problem solved in space equipment? And just in the air? Why don't satellites/planes burst into flames?


    These are balanced systems. If you attach earth to them, they will burn.

    Look, you have a device powered by 5V. But this does not mean that you must supply it with voltages of 0 and 5V. You may well apply instead of 0 - 12V, and instead of 5 - 17V and everything will work.
    That is, it is not absolute values ​​that work, but the potential difference.

    Well, or atmospheric electricity. If we climb a kilometer, then the potential difference between the heels and the head will still be 240-600v for a 2m person. But the potential difference between the head and the ground will already be 120-300kv. If you connect the ground to the heel, then there will be a big butt.
    1. Gaersul
      Gaersul 28 July 2022 12: 49
      0
      That is, it is not absolute values ​​that work, but the potential difference.
      Directly almost according to Svoren, a quote, as much as nostalgia for childhood. smile
  40. usm5
    usm5 28 July 2022 13: 43
    0
    The main objective of the article is to draw attention to this topic. She's done. On the whole, it was a good debate. We are all forced to carry out logical constructions on the basis of initial information. I agree that the author's initial information about the technical capabilities in this field of knowledge is not complete. But somehow you have to be more respectful. Indeed, as a result, the author proposed to work out the concept of using drones. For example, I will cite recently leaked information that the United States is developing stratospheric drones in the form of airships that will be equipped with reconnaissance equipment and (or) electronic warfare. Being at an altitude of 27-30 km, 30-50 km from the front line, they, like satellites, can effectively scan the surrounding space, give proper target designation to the corresponding weapon systems or suppress its EW communication channels. I think that such airships are capable of raising the "Zadira" to the indicated height and working to counter the enemy's satellite constellation.
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 30 July 2022 15: 14
      0
      Quote from usm5
      Being at an altitude of 27-30 km, 30-50 km from the front line, they, like satellites, can effectively scan the surrounding space

      you see .. most of the missiles at such a range - they just get the airship .. even the old Soviet ones from the Armed Forces of Ukraine .. and putting them at 200 km and at 150 km of altitude is something fantastic .. it’s easier to make Avaxes .. and probably cheaper /more reliable..
      1. usm5
        usm5 2 August 2022 19: 28
        0
        In this case, from the point of view of targets for long-range air defense systems, there is no fundamental difference between an airship and AWACS (the first has a cruising speed of about 120 km / h, and the second has 600 km / h) .. Therefore, both of them must be covered by their own air defense system.
  41. AML
    AML 28 July 2022 14: 34
    +1
    Quote from usm5
    For example, I will cite recently leaked information that the United States is developing stratospheric drones in the form of airships


    They have been doing this since 2005 and did not particularly hide it. So far, the target has not been achieved. True, they swung hard. They want the airship to hang for a year. So far it's been about a month.

    The airship Atlant is also being developed in the Russian Federation. It was originally developed for the Arctic, but then the military picked it up. In theory, they should have already rolled out, but again something went wrong again. Most likely Siemens happened again. The topic of airships is wandering around the Russian Federation, they have not forgotten about it.
  42. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 28 July 2022 15: 09
    +2
    I must note that this is not at all an analytical article, but an essay by the author on a free topic. I chose my own theme. I made my own arguments.
    The analytical article is based on facts and comparisons. Comparisons can be different: comparison with the enemy or comparison with what is and what should be. But without them, nothing. I'm already tired of repeating that comparison is the basis of thinking (and for AI, too). Only comparisons must be correct (for example: serial compare only with serial, and nothing else).
    In order not to be unfounded, I will give one example from this article:
    What is the merit of drones in this - it will be possible to calculate only after everything is over. But it is clear that God knows what.
    The author turns out that we will calculate later, but he already understands everything. How so? Why? This is not analysis, but HZCH.
    But what is this unfounded assertion?
    But let's be honest: if someone is to blame for the fact that the army of the LPR (I don’t know for the DPR) turned out to be without drones, the leadership of the LPR is to blame, which simply banned UAVs in the republic. Any. Accordingly, there was no way to train pilot operators, because it was strictly forbidden to fly.
    Where is this sucked from? Why sucked? Yes, because the LNR was not subject all this time. Does the author know what this means?
    and calculate a certain truth
    Forgive me, but this essay with the truth did not lie next to it.
  43. ratcatcher
    ratcatcher 28 July 2022 18: 27
    +2
    It is surprising that such articles appear against the background of the fact that "catastrophically there are not enough UAVs for reconnaissance and target designation" rushing in chorus from the front
    Here is Poddubny about the same: “The opinion that the RF Armed Forces are sorely lacking in intelligence means was expressed by the journalist Yevgeny Poddubny, writes “Military Affairs.” These were not just words thrown by him, his statements were based on personal observations military commissar.
    He spoke about how Iranian reconnaissance drones worked in Syria. Describing the current situation in the combat zone, the military commander says that the units of the RF Armed Forces and the armies of the republics are sorely lacking in reconnaissance means.
  44. nedgen
    nedgen 28 July 2022 22: 28
    +3
    Sorry, dear Roman, but in principle, the C500 cannot shoot down a GPS satellite for a very simple reason. The satellites themselves, if I'm not mistaken, hang in geostationary orbit somewhere 30 km from the earth. hi
  45. Spasatel
    Spasatel 29 July 2022 14: 28
    +2
    Drone for the Russian soldier: needed or not?

    No, not needed!
    The Russian soldier does not need anything at all!
    He's all with his bare hands!
    For Putin!
    For the Rotenbergs!
    For Kabaeva!
  46. Sedoy
    Sedoy 31 July 2022 00: 32
    0
    "Zoo-1M" ​​perfectly detects mortars at a distance of 13-17 km, cannon artillery from 10-12 km, and MLRS - 15-22 km. And these stations should quite regularly supply the gunners with data for firing back.

    the author is not embarrassed that the barrel art of dill, of Western production, starts to figure out from 20 km to 80 ...
  47. Sedoy
    Sedoy 31 July 2022 00: 58
    +1
    Cruise missiles and anti-radar missiles do an excellent job with air defense systems.

    who would have doubted... :)
    that is why the air defense of the dill feels calm, and the air force maintains air superiority, allowing the dill to freely transfer troops and heavy equipment in broad daylight, even within the operational depth ...
    author, another pocket guard ... just a singer ... :)
  48. Sedoy
    Sedoy 31 July 2022 01: 05
    0
    The UAV in the squad-platoon line is nonsense. And the presence of such devices in the field, with untrained operators, and even without meeting the standards and requirements, is harmful.

    crap they don't exist...
    the same you do not suffer from foolishness and they have ...
    but the fact that they are not in the relevant military standards is sabotage ...
  49. Krilion
    Krilion 1 August 2022 06: 51
    0
    if we fight with such an approach as the author’s and also talk about UAVs, we will face an inevitable defeat ...
  50. kytx
    kytx 5 August 2022 03: 49
    0
    "Afghanistan is controlled via satellite from a command post located at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada. Yes, it is safe for operators to be 12 km away"

    author so you know they are run from the state of Illinois.
    Google

    And in general, after reading the article, one thought: "Lord! What nonsense!"
    In other words. Not very creative / the author is an eccentric
    :(