Russia has something to remind Norway

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Russia has something to remind Norway

Vilnius, Oslo, further - nowhere?


The frankly provocative actions of the Norwegian authorities regarding Russia's economic ties with Spitsbergen hardly differ from the recent decisions of Vilnius on Kaliningrad. More precisely, by limiting the same ties between the Kaliningrad region and the rest of the territory of Russia.

At the same time, both measures, if you look at it, in fact, do not correspond to the new Western sanctions against the Russian Federation. Vilnius was actually forced to admit this "inconsistency" the other day, and now it's Oslo's turn. The first shifts for the better have already been outlined, a continuation, apparently, follows.



In the literal sense, the Jesuitism of the Norwegian authorities is also very characteristic because it is thanks to the USSR that Norway retains its territories ... even in the South Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean - near Antarctica!

And they didn't say thank you


Recall: by decree of the Norwegian King Haakon VII of January 23, 1928, the South Atlantic island of Bouvet (near Antarctica) in 50 square meters. km was declared Norwegian territory, which was simultaneously claimed by Great Britain.

In 1929–1931 The Storting (parliament) of Norway adopted a law and a number of regulations, according to which the larger island of Peter I (160 sq. Km), located off the Pacific coast of the Antarctic Peninsula of Antarctica, was included in this territory - the “Bouvet sector”.

But the inclusion of this island in Norway was first disputed by the USSR. Thus, the Soviet Note of Protest to the Norwegian government dated January 24, 1939 explained that

“...Norway unilaterally declared its territory the Antarctic island of Peter I, discovered by the Russian expedition of F.F. Bellingshausen and M.P. Lazarev in 1819–1821.”

Nevertheless, Moscow did not officially declare Soviet rights to this island and did not protest Oslo's decision in the League of Nations, which the Norwegian authorities feared.


On this map, the island of Peter I is highlighted, and about. Bouvet - to the right of Antarctica

By what right


Meanwhile, the ownership of Peter I Island by Norway was preserved, being enshrined in Norwegian law in 1957, which was also not disputed by Moscow. The permanent international Antarctic Treaty, signed in 1959, does not apply, with the consent of the USSR, to Bouvet Island.

And since Peter I Island falls under the scope of this Treaty, which was also signed by Norway, the Norwegian territorial claims are defined here as "indefinitely" frozen "by the countries participating in the Treaty." But these claims are not officially rejected in this document.

It is also interesting that, according to a number of experts cooperating with the IAEA atomic energy agency, it was on Bouvet Island - that is, on Norwegian territory - that a "joint" atomic bomb was tested by South Africa and Israel in 1979.

Which was not officially refuted either in Oslo, or in Pretoria, or, somewhat strangely, in Tel Aviv. At the same time, experts have repeatedly noted that

"the secret operation was prepared so carefully that there is no official evidence of a nuclear test in the Bouvet region to date."

However, specialists visit Bouvet Island

“Not recommended: there is a high level of radiation on its territory.”

Meeting place change...


And in some Soviet media (only in some ...) the intended location of this test was indicated with vague brevity: "in the South Atlantic". That is, Moscow's line of maintaining stability in relations with Oslo continued.

In this regard, we note that during the period when the territory of Norway itself was occupied by the Nazis (May 1940 - October 1944), Great Britain planned to “expropriate” the islands of Bouvet and Peter I, including them in neighboring British colonies: respectively, the Falkland Islands (Fr. Bouvet) and Pitcairn (Fr. Peter I). By the way, these colonies in Britain are preserved to this day.

But in contrast to the British plans, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (NKID) and the People's Commissariat for Foreign Trade of the USSR (since 1946 it has been the Ministry of Foreign Trade) in May 1944 and in February 1947, in their joint explanation to the government of Norway, clarified that the Soviet-Norwegian agreements of 1944-1947. "shall apply in full to all territories permanently under the jurisdiction of the Kingdom of Norway".

In Oslo, they can sleep peacefully


Then there were bilateral agreements "On civil administration and jurisdiction in the territory of Norway after its liberation" (May 16, 1944), "On the Establishment of Telegraph and Telephone Relations" and "On the Exchange of Postal Parcels" (both dated February 11, 1947), as well as the annual minutes of 1946-1948. on joint harvesting of marine bioresources.

Moreover, the same Soviet explanations were presented even earlier - in August 1941, to the emigrant government of Norway (in London) in connection with the agreement of August 5, 1941 on the restoration of Soviet-Norwegian diplomatic relations.


All this was confirmed by the Soviet side during a visit to the USSR in November 1955 by Norwegian Prime Minister E. Gerhardsen (pictured). At the talks, he expressed gratitude to the Soviet leadership for supporting Norwegian sovereignty in the remote territories of this country. And he guaranteed the invariable observance of the economic interests of the USSR in Svalbard.

In the future, the Norwegians, of course, did not demand the above-mentioned explanations from the Soviet side. And still they are not required by Norway ...
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  1. +7
    24 July 2022 16: 12
    And they didn't say thank you
    . It’s not even funny ... Schaub gay European politicians were grateful to someone for good deeds ??? This is nonsense.
    They have not yet grabbed for soft, sensitive, firmly !!! You may not expect anything at all.
    1. +1
      27 July 2022 06: 35
      Yes, this is the principle of "enlightened" Europe from time immemorial, so, European values ​​​​required from the rulers, but in Russian there is no shame, for Europe these are not translatable concepts.
      1. 0
        27 July 2022 10: 23
        Who is stronger, considers himself such and can back up words with real power, he is right.
        As soon as it finds a scythe on a stone, graters begin, and even conflicts !!!
  2. 0
    24 July 2022 16: 14
    Norway is not so hard.
    1. +10
      24 July 2022 18: 17
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Norway is not so hard.

      And, according to the reference book of Chubais and K, in general, everything is wonderful.
      1. 0
        24 July 2022 20: 17
        In edition No. 1 of 30. 06.1993 or No. 3 dated 24. 11.97?
  3. +20
    24 July 2022 16: 35
    Until now, the Norwegians beat whales and in all port cities you can buy whale meat in the markets. The excuse is this: whales are a traditional fishery of our remote villages, it is important for people. And this is what the functionaries of a country with a population of 4,5 million and a welfare fund of 1 trillion say. Doll.
    What nonsense! If this is important for isolated villages, then why is whale meat sold in coastal markets across the country? And secondly, with such a fund, remote villages can somehow be provided. The rest of the fishing has not been canceled. Cod, salmon, halibut - everything is there. Catch and trade. But they continue to beat the unfortunate whales.
    Inhumans!
    1. +15
      24 July 2022 16: 52
      The Norgs must answer for the whales, it’s a pity for the fish. Beautiful, I’ve seen more than once.
      1. +2
        25 July 2022 20: 15
        Only a whale is not a fish, but our relative is a mammal, rare and endangered, this barbarism in the form of extermination and inspires the wrath of any normal person, but not Norwegians and not Japs, of course.
        1. 0
          26 July 2022 03: 58
          25 I caught a fish in the sea. I can joke. Do not eat octopuses, they are smarter than some "humans".
          1. 0
            26 July 2022 20: 05
            There is such an opinion, and, in general, they are cute)
    2. -5
      24 July 2022 18: 33
      How did you get the guppies.
      Chukotka residents - they have official permission to hunt, though not commercial. The fact is that for the people living in the farthest north off the coast of the Bering Sea, that is, in permafrost conditions, this fishing is the only way to survive and feed their families.

      Don't feel sorry for these whales?!)
      1. +2
        24 July 2022 20: 48
        The Chukchi are their own - relatives !!! There are few of them left. You are our trigaplicht!
      2. 0
        29 July 2022 13: 58
        The Chukchi are really very far away. This is the remote village. And they beat under the license, a little. Markets are not traded. Meat, fat, skin - all for internal needs. Survival at the end of the world. This is the difference from non-humans-Norwegians / Faroese.
        I feel sorry for any whales!
  4. +3
    24 July 2022 16: 40
    "Gratitude" is not such a word for most of our neighbors.
    Until someone takes it by the ass.
  5. +6
    24 July 2022 16: 51
    After the NWO, relations with all Western countries that supported the sanctions will have to be reviewed. Stop looking back, things need to be done taking into account the behavior of countries during the sanctions (despite past "merits") and respond only to the benefit of Russia, not any gestures of goodwill.
    1. +6
      24 July 2022 17: 09
      Quote: Leshak
      After the NWO, relations with all Western countries that supported the sanctions will have to be reviewed.

      A normal ruler would long ago have ordered the Foreign Ministry to prepare the texts of statements.
      It's time to forget "unfriendly countries" like a bad dream. We need to live the life of our own country and help those who appreciate it.
    2. +7
      24 July 2022 17: 50
      None of our government will revise anything, because all their children live in Western countries and have their own business, they will only express another concern, we will continue to be designated aggressors-tolerants until we change our laws to Israeli ones, and the rulers vice versa
      1. +3
        24 July 2022 18: 22
        Quote: restless
        we will be designated aggressors-terpils until

        Strange thing, even waving one paw (CBO) from those who came to kill him, the bear continues to sleep. request
        1. +3
          24 July 2022 18: 30
          Quote: Terenin
          Quote: restless
          we will be designated aggressors-terpils until

          Strange thing, even waving one paw (CBO) from those who came to kill him, the bear continues to sleep. request

          Unfortunately for us, and to their joy, liberal sleeping pills under the Yeltsin Center brand work well on the bear.
  6. 0
    24 July 2022 17: 03
    It's time to bring all these geeks to life and not only with words.
    1. +1
      24 July 2022 18: 35
      Yes, you sho, don’t you want to first help bring ukrov to life?))
      1. -2
        24 July 2022 19: 10
        One does not interfere with the other, and by the way, not necessarily with shooting.
  7. -3
    24 July 2022 17: 08
    Quote: tralflot1832
    Norway is not so hard.
    Yes, but with Finland everything is more than disgusting. Out of good wishes, they were given statehood to create, and then to maintain ... Thanks - zero, they want NATO, they trample on agreements.

    Helsinki, that is, Helsingfors, was part of the Russian Empire, architecturally and culturally - a small Petersburg.
    And before that it was founded in 1550 by the Swedes.
    And WHERE is the Finnish Chukhonian merit?

    So return and return the lands squandered to their native harbor!
    1. +2
      24 July 2022 17: 19
      Look at the outskirts of them until the last discounts, loans and all sorts of benefits, and in response they only crap under the door became larger groups. And you are talking about the independence of the Chukhons, in the article - about the agreements on the island of Peter I, it was all a long time ago. Gay Europeans try to forget all the good things done (not long ago) by Russia and the USSR.
    2. +3
      24 July 2022 17: 53
      Tell this to our helmsmen, who are still in power, how much they gave away for nothing and how much more land is leased, everything is quietly hushed up, but there is infa about this, why are our patriots silent about this ???
  8. +1
    24 July 2022 17: 40
    no need to remind, too much, the end of the 20th-21st century was shown - individuals with white ceramic teeth, horseradish will appreciate tact, diplomacy and correctness. The death and another collapse of the Russian Federation is the only thing that will suit this public. Especially now, when the bullshit about the "gas station" and "alternative energy" has been washed away. Denounce. Just take and denounce those agreements, notify that the claims are "unfrozen" and ... send an expedition there, accompanied by a couple of nuclear boats
  9. -3
    24 July 2022 21: 15
    Norway should be annexed in the future. Enough for them to suffer under the rule of the Anglo-Saxons.
  10. +1
    24 July 2022 21: 53
    The Varangian sea is on the waves,
    meeting the Norwegians Lodya flies.
    Baptized Rus on that boat,
    six brothers - a brigand squad.
  11. -1
    25 July 2022 00: 15
    The Norgs paid back by nominating their very close-minded former Prime Minister Stopty Berg to the post of NATO Secretary General.
    And for the image of NATO, this is bad, worse only if Usrula against the backdrop of der How-her-here or Blended Lisa.
  12. +1
    25 July 2022 08: 51
    Either after WWII they did not insist for fear of offending, then one figure gave a hint of the return of which resolved one of the current problems, but as much as possible. THEY understand only POWER, nobility and generosity they take for weakness, as well as all people who are weak in spirit.
  13. +1
    25 July 2022 09: 34
    It's not even funny
    55 years ago, almost 70 years ago, another completely different country, the USSR, "did not officially declare Soviet rights to this island"
    Surely there were some undercurrents then, interests, offsets ...

    And wait for the 70-year-old, it’s not clear what gratitude is? Since then, there have already been so many new treaties, delimitations, divisions of shelves

    So, IMHO, it's a stretch.
    Here, the Medvedev division of the shelves can be more confidently tightened, all the same, only 12 years have passed, but .... you yourself understand
  14. -2
    25 July 2022 10: 57
    Quote: Max1995
    you understand

    Why not understand ... Drunk-Boriska has been buried for a year now, and all the shit is being raked out from under him. And this one is still alive.
  15. +1
    25 July 2022 12: 18
    Isn't it time to declare the legal rights of Russia over Antarctica? Which by the right of discoverers belongs to us.
  16. -1
    26 July 2022 10: 05
    Yes, to remind you, of course, there is something and in many ways, but just, for example, is the Federation Council ready for reminders? And then, as practice has shown, the Black Sea Fleet was not quite ready, and before that there were many words with reminders and, to some extent, bravura parades.