Under what conditions is Russia ready to integrate the territories of the former Ukraine

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The goals of the special operation in Ukraine were identified - to protect the inhabitants of Donbass and ensure the security of Russia through the denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine. As the stages contradicting each other were implemented, a picture was drawn that the special operation began without a clear plan and model for the socio-economic integration of the liberated territories into the Russian civilizational space. At the first stage (Plan A), it was announced that Russian troops were not going to occupy Ukraine and change power in Kyiv (at the same time, it was not clear how the Kyiv Ukronazi regime could denazify itself).

Apparently, it was assumed that the regime would immediately fall and scatter, the so-called “pro-Russian” politicians would come into place, some of them were already in the rear of the Russian army, who were supposed to take key positions in Kyiv and regional centers and establish power friendly to Russia . In such a scenario of the development of the situation, the goals of the special operation, of course, could be achieved.

This plan did not work, the Kyiv regime survived, and there was no plan "B" for this case. Bloody and lengthy stages of the liberation of Ukrainian territories began, and the integration model began to be born in the course of the implementation of the stated goals, probably hence the shyness from the People's Republics before the regions became part of Russia.



The need to create a single integration control center


In the liberated territories, there was no single center for managing the integration process. The law enforcement agencies, which were the first to enter the territory, were entrusted with the functions of preventing a vacuum of power, creating temporary administrations and solving urgent vital problems of the population. Due to the fact that these structures are not designed to resolve political issues, and
the management model they created solved only priority tasks, and did not look to the future - it was initially vicious.

This was clearly seen even in the Donbass, when, with serious powers, there was almost no responsibility, which led to a monopoly of power and the penetration of criminal structures into its structures, gave rise to a wide range of arbitrariness and “grey services”. Approximately the same process has now begun in the Kherson, Zaporozhye and Kharkov regions.

In this model, there was no political arbitrage, which could build a long-term management system and work out the mechanisms for integrating territories. For these purposes, they tried to attract the ruling United Russia party, but with its authority and abilities, this was doomed to failure, which happened. These “plenipotentiary representatives” did not go further than advertising campaigns and volunteer activities.

The Presidential Administration got involved in solving these problems, and the process moved forward, an Interdepartmental Commission for the Coordination of Administrative and Economic Issues on the Integration of Territories appeared.

The issue of a special political body that concentrates in its hands all the political, economic, power, humanitarian aspects of managing the liberated territories and their integration, as well as coordinating interaction with Russian state and commercial structures involved in solving the problems of returning southwestern lands to Russia remains open. . That is, the question arises of creating a body of representation of supreme power and management of the future Southwestern Federal District.

The creation of such a body will consolidate the decision of the Russian leadership to integrate the liberated territories into the Russian space and formalize an instrument of political control of this process. In this case, the global integration process receives a political superstructure, and the liberated territories in the future may become a subject of the Russian state through the creation of the Southwestern Federal District. Now the most likely figure for the post of head of this body is being discussed on the Web, and the majority is inclined to believe that it will be Dmitry Rogozin, who was dismissed from the post of head of Roscosmos and, apparently, is being returned to big politics.

Socio-economic model and image of the future


Given that integration is not only connecting gas and electricity, paying benefits and issuing passports, but a long process with a whole range of issues to create a single political, economic, legal and humanitarian space, the successful implementation of which requires a clear socio-economic model of the future of the territories and the image of the future Russia into which they are integrating.

In this regard, the question of what Russia should represent in civilizational and ideological terms, in order to be attractive to the acquired territories, becomes fundamental.

Unfortunately, Russian society has nothing to brag about in this matter. After the victory of liberalism in Russia over all other ideologies, the entire political spectrum of ideologies shifted in the direction of liberalism in the country, it became dominant in the country. Thirty years of imposition by the elite of this ideology, alien to the Russian spirit, has led to its complete denial by society and contempt for the conductors of liberalism. Nevertheless, the liberal elite, which has not left power anywhere, is still trying to promote Western values ​​under the slogan “we do not need creators, but qualified consumers”. This only splits the society even more and leads to rejection of the elite, disgusted by everyone.

With the start of the special operation in Russia, two conditional “parties” are fighting for the shape of the future - the “guardians”, who defend the return to the already dead illusory status quo, and the “mobilization” party, which is set up for a tough confrontation with the West and the return of Russia to the status of a great power. At the same time, both "parties" are united by one thing - the lack of a clear plan and image of the future that they would like to see after the completion of the special operation. This image is formed in the process of its implementation and will depend on the results achieved, external and internal factors and the ability of the two opposing "parties" on the Russian political Olympus to achieve their goals.

To solve the challenges facing the country, it is necessary to formulate meanings and images that draw an attractive image of the future, for which different sections of society will be ready to fight. But now everything revolves around forms of liberalism with a set of some good wishes that do not represent a complete picture of the world and an ideologically sharpened worldview.

The ideological factor in the internal and external confrontation is no less important than the achievement of material wealth, and the Russian political class will have to make a choice - it is for the revival or subjugation of Russia. Now we have entered a very important and dangerous phase of the war with the West, and how we win or lose it will determine the future of Russia. Sovereignty for our people is one of the traditional values, and now is a unique moment in our stories, which gives a chance to take over the country and make it sovereign and self-sufficient.

In this regard, the question arises, what properties should our ideology have, aimed at awakening the self-consciousness of the people, reviving the Russian civilizational code and a clear distinction between Russian and Western civilizations. At the same time, it should be borne in mind that the ideology of the Russian world is built on the basis of Russian traditional values, including the ethics of justice, service, asceticism and honor, and the ideology of the Western world is based on individualism, the cult of money and enrichment, which in Russia will never be accepted. The people want and must understand what they live for and what they are ready to die for, where they came from and where they are going, who are their enemies and who are their friends, and what is our common cause. It is these questions that the ideology of Russian civilization should answer.

Considering the integration of the liberated territories, it must be taken into account that the population, part of the elite and business should have an interest in integrating not with the West, but with Russia, otherwise we will have a hostile population and a political class there, set up for active resistance.

This requires the image of a large joint Fatherland (the image of a common state) and the desire to build it. Such an image can be represented on the basis of national (ethnic), class and civilizational values.

At the same time, one must understand the difference between ethnic and national characteristics. Since the time of the Soviet Union, nationality has been determined by anthropological characteristics, which is far from being the case. Ethnos is a community of people united by kinship, resemblance, language and territory, and a nation is a product of a certain human society, a historically established community of people in a certain territory as a result of the merger of several ethnic groups and the formation of common life principles and customs, religion, social and state structure, occurred as a result of the unification of the lands and associated with statehood and civic identity. That is, the ethnos determines the biological identity, and the nation - civil.

Proceeding from this, there is a Russian political nation based on the Russian superethnos, which includes three subethnoses - Russian, Belarusian and Ukrainian (Little Russian), united by a common history and cultural and historical features.

Building a state on the basis of ethnic values ​​and in the interests of a particular ethnic group leads to the infringement of the rights of other peoples living in this territory. Building a state on the basis of national values ​​presupposes the presence of several ethnic groups in it, united in a single nation, defending the interests of the ethnic groups included in it. At the same time, the ethnic and national interests of other ethnic groups and nations in this territory cannot always be satisfied, which can lead to national confrontation.

Russia has always been a multi-ethnic and multinational country and was built on the principle of civilization (empire), where a political nation was built on the basis of the state-forming Russian people and its traditional values, satisfying the ethnic and national interests of its constituent peoples.

The construction of a state on class principles in the interests of a certain class always inevitably leads to class contradictions and its instability. Russia and Ukraine are very close in class composition (large, middle and petty bourgeoisie, proletariat, peasantry, civil servants, intelligentsia, military), while the big bourgeoisie rules, imposing its own ideology. None of the classes are predominant (including the proletariat). So the construction, for example, of a proletarian or bourgeois state will never lead to the rallying of society, and a significant part of it will be dissatisfied with such a social structure.

This is what happens in Russia, the state works in the interests of big capital, which exacerbates class contradictions and weakens the state. At the same time, the ruling big bourgeoisie is split into national and comprador bourgeoisie, their interests seriously diverge, and they are in a state of permanent war among themselves.

In Ukraine, the big bourgeoisie is only comprador, which imposed Ukronazism and Russophobia on the entire population in the interests of its class and the West and built a Nazi state, handing it over to the Western masters, who provoked a war with Russia. Other classes, due to their thoughtlessness, have joined this war for foreign class interests and do not realize this.

So, based on these prerequisites, it is advisable to lay Russian civilizational values, ideology and doctrine of the state of social justice, which are very close to the traditional values ​​of the Russian superethnos, as the basis of the future common state. For this, a lot of things have to be done in Russia as well, first of all, to limit the appetites of the big bourgeoisie, remove them from power structures and take away critical assets in favor of the state. At the same time, the main thing is to ensure a decent standard of living for its citizens and prevent the formation of supercapitals in the hands of a limited handful of owners. It is necessary to work out a form of social structure that satisfies the interests of the majority of classes of the future Russian state.

Of course, this is not socialism, where everyone is equal (equality never happens, a person already at birth differs from another in his abilities) and not capitalism, where the owner of the means of production legally brazenly robs other members of society.

Good examples of building such societies are, for example, "socialism with Chinese characteristics" and "Islamic socialism" in Iran. This is also not socialism, since there is private ownership of the means of production, but they found the optimal ratio of public, state and private capital, limiting excess income and forming a state governance structure that works for the interests of the whole society.

After the implementation of the goals of the special operation, a long process of reformatting the Russian and former Ukrainian political, economic and ideological field and the creation of a single civilizational space is ahead. The chosen strategy and tactics for integrating the liberated territories and the readiness of the Russian authorities to create a more attractive form of the social structure of the future state will largely determine the effectiveness of integration processes throughout the post-Soviet space.
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  1. nnm
    +27
    20 July 2022 16: 12
    I have only one question:
    - how can people who have built a system in the Russian Federation that is strikingly different from that described in the article be able, or rather, want to build something different in the liberated territories?
    This is similar to Einstein's famous quote about stupidity, when doing the same thing (I would only add in this situation that the same people do it) we expect to get a different result.
    Any system, including political and economic, is characterized by such a term as "homeostasis" - and will only reproduce itself over and over again, in any conditions.
    1. -3
      20 July 2022 16: 22
      The people who built the system in the Russian Federation are now sitting in Europe with their bare bottoms. In Russia, they are no longer needed. I doubt that the European model was built in Ukraine. Our history was repeated there, after 30 years. And while our party members were eating up the country, their Politicians grew up in the LDNR, who not only in word but also in deed cared for the People. Most likely, another autonomous republic will become part of Russia ... Although?, A lot also depends on our president.
      1. +7
        20 July 2022 16: 31
        They feel pretty good in this EU. Otherwise, they would have returned.
        1. -1
          20 July 2022 16: 41
          It is unlikely that they will return, they have already shown their true face
          solved only priority tasks, and did not look to the future - initially it was vicious.

          You, the author, are more careful with words like that. The power was vicious, which was denazified by the very people about whom you spoke so ugly. And at the same time they work and die at the hands of terrorists. And here you are scribbling libels
        2. +1
          20 July 2022 18: 17
          What would they come back with, bare ass, start all over again? They are sitting there not because it is good there, they hope that not everyone will be taken away forever. Won Aven was given a bit of relief to pay for his property.
          1. +1
            20 July 2022 20: 23
            Under what conditions is Russia ready for the integration of territories ...

            And do"Russian map, similarly to "The Pole's Card" - religion does not allow?
      2. +3
        20 July 2022 16: 34
        In the Russian Federation since 1993 there is no concept of "autonomous republic", there are republics within the Russian Federation.
        1. +4
          20 July 2022 16: 38
          So far, Ukrainian society itself is not ready for integration. Much has been lost over the years ... individual regions - yes, the whole of Ukraine - no. But .... everything flows, everything changes .... I hope someday we will come to this
          1. 0
            20 July 2022 17: 40
            30 years have passed. A new generation has grown up, who have been taught that everything connected with Russia is the Soviet Union and the last century. In the southeast, this integration will take place quickly, since the majority are Russian and have family ties to Russia. But the rest, the farther to western Ukraine, the more difficult. Yes, and it is worth thinking carefully about whether Russia needs this "hemorrhoids."
          2. +3
            20 July 2022 18: 28
            And what kind of animal is this - "Ukrainian society"? There is no society there and never has been. There are crazy Bandera people, there are primitive inhabitants-khataskrayniks, there are Russians who have gone over in the hope of grabbing on the sly, there are just fools who are like pigs, if only they had a trough and there are ours, who are waiting for Russia, but there are just people who are not up to politics, who spin like squirrels in a wheel to feed themselves and their children, just to survive.
        2. 0
          20 July 2022 17: 58
          Let's call them an Autonomous Okrug... We have such ones, almost the size of America.
          Even European politicians began to recall the wide possibilities of autonomy in Ukraine ... On this topic, with a Polish passport, you can become the mayor of Kyiv .... A good topic by the way ... It's a pity there is little information
      3. +9
        20 July 2022 17: 07
        Quote: LAWNER
        The people who built the system in the Russian Federation are now sitting in Europe with their bare booty. In Russia, they are no longer needed.

        And there is a decree on the nationalization of what is in Russia and what do these “organizers” own according to papers and registers?
        Without a solid ideology, Russia is like Odessa Privoz.
        1. -5
          20 July 2022 18: 04
          The fish rots from the head??? We have already passed ... Take the "lower classes" by the throat ... And they will carry out your "Solid Ideology" on such a grand scale. That everyone will become sad ... But if you throw off the possibility of making decisions to the very bottom, it can burn out. As before, the head of the entrance, the combatant, the chairman of the women's council of the district ... There, the officials will not have the opportunity to "grab money".
          1. -1
            20 July 2022 18: 29
            Quote: LAWNER
            As before, the head of the entrance, the combatant, the chairman of the women's council of the district ... There, the officials will not have the opportunity to "grab money".

            belay From the beginning, give birth to a "Soviet man", then dream about how he will defend his rights. Otherwise, he will start to grab. recourse Morality - ideology - law. request
          2. 0
            26 July 2022 09: 16
            Quote: LAWNER
            As before, the head of the entrance, the combatant, the chairman of the women's council of the district ... There, the officials will not have the opportunity to "grab money".

            Kindergarten naivety... Holy.....
            Do you remember the movie "Afonya"?
            Why did he take money in his pocket?
            A distant relative in Moscow in the 1970s per year earned money for a car - when a riser is clogged in the 16th floor and there is nowhere to poop, and on the street it is +30 and no one has air conditioners - you will pay any money so that it does not stink. thanked - what the grandmother took and did. And he could make a face with a brick and go to another house

            And he didn’t even have 1 mm of power.
            And there was a housing office nearby, yeah ....
    2. +2
      20 July 2022 16: 24
      So, apart from the federation, there are no options. The question is who will be the one who rules the region and raises it?
    3. +3
      20 July 2022 16: 26
      And there is no answer to it. People holding power in the Russian Federation will be focused on maintaining and increasing power, and not on creating "alternative models of society." With a high degree of probability, Ukrainian assets "becoming Russian" will first be restored at the expense of specialized domestic companies, and then quietly and logically become part of them. Having replenished the assets of the oligarchs close to the heights of power.
      1. +8
        20 July 2022 16: 29
        It looks very much like it. The locals will be removed over time, this has already begun a long time ago.
      2. +1
        20 July 2022 16: 51
        Quote: ian
        will be restored at the expense of specialized domestic companies, and then imperceptibly and logically become part of them. Replenishing the assets of those close to the peaks

        Sorry, what don't you like? Do you offer non-core or non-domestic companies?
        Or both?
        It is logical that profile companies will be restored, what is domestic is even more logical, and the fact that they will later become part of their assets is your assumption, but even if so, then the issue is financial and depends on the amount of investments and the participation of other shareholders / owners
        1. 0
          20 July 2022 17: 24
          hi I didn't say what I like and what I don't. I didn't suggest any of the things you accused me of.
          You simply did not understand the meaning of my and the above comment. Try to read it all over again. hi
    4. +14
      20 July 2022 16: 27
      Yes, the ideology of our elite is very tight. She has one ideology: everything for her loved ones. The Russian National Idea has not been formulated for more than 20 years, which is very reminiscent of one anecdote:
      A group of terrorists captured the wine cellars of Massandra. And now for a whole month they have not been able to formulate their demands. laughing drinks wassat
    5. +4
      20 July 2022 19: 50
      After the mafia-oligarchic leadership of the country created its caricature copy in the DPR in the person of the fraudster Pushilin and his henchmen, is it any wonder that the Ukrainians did not rush towards our soldiers with flowers?
    6. Maz
      +1
      21 July 2022 08: 57
      Nothing, let's go. The head is afraid, but the hands are doing. We have the image of the USSR and the example of China, so there is room for improvement. And there is no choice, either we them, or they us. So, freedom or death. Like on the barricades of Paris
  2. +5
    20 July 2022 16: 16
    I almost agree with the author, only this is all for years to come. Alas, this is inevitable, under the current leadership.
  3. +7
    20 July 2022 16: 23
    This requires the image of a large joint Fatherland (the image of a common state) and the desire to build it. Such an image can be represented on the basis of national (ethnic), class and civilizational values.
    This image itself is remembered by everyone ...
  4. +14
    20 July 2022 16: 31
    Until there is a truly state policy, and not as it is now, everything is in favor of the commerce - the huckster, led by the chief commerce, nothing will change. A business trader with a machine gun will not stand up to defend the country, their brains are sharpened for something else. And the people are poured such dregs from the state channel that even stronger scientific brains doubt the history of their own country. I don’t see real cases from the authorities in support of the people. Also, there are no real steps in the punishment of responsible persons who have failed all the tasks of industrialization and import substitution. The time for compromise and tolerance has passed.
    1. +9
      20 July 2022 17: 29
      What is the article about if our children of ministers are already ministers or bankers, some kind of boyars
  5. +9
    20 July 2022 16: 38
    and the majority is inclined to believe that it will be Dmitry Rogozin, who was dismissed from the post of head of Roscosmos and, apparently, is returning to big politics.
    Which is very disturbing and even frustrating. Now they need either a good, strong business executive or an "effective manager" like Beria to put things in order
    1. -1
      20 July 2022 16: 53
      As for Rogozin, it is highly doubtful, there are other candidates, in my opinion. Mishustin how sharply moved and it seems not in vain. But time will tell.
    2. +7
      20 July 2022 17: 04
      Quote: svp67
      Now they need either a good, strong business executive or an "effective manager" like Beria to put things in order

      Here! It is necessary to return Stalin's socialism, when both private traders worked, and artels, and the trade union was at its best! only the socialist path is closest to the Russian soul. Then the rest will catch up quietly. It was, it is understandable, and at the same time, no oligarchs seizing power. Here in Ukraine, many argued: "The oligarchs drink their blood from us, and more Russian oligarchs will come - they will drink twice." it means there is a request for state ownership of large factories and factories.
      1. +1
        20 July 2022 18: 27
        Elena, you are right! L. Tolstoy, Leskov, Kuprin, Bunin mention the concept of "WORLD" and, communities! And property issues can be discussed ad infinitum; rather, it is necessary to create (educate?) the spirit of a "clan" community (an example is the diaspora in modern Russia). Why not? According to rumors (without evidence) many businessmen (ugh! MERCHANTS, BREEDERS) help at the call of the soul, Blood, STAI (c) Kipling.
    3. +7
      20 July 2022 17: 10
      Quote: svp67
      Which is very disturbing and even frustrating. Now they need either a good, strong business executive or an "effective manager" like Beria to put things in order

      Yes, really ... with such a selection of managers, there is no need to wait for development .. Beria is not observed with us at all .. but Beria also appeared, because there was Stalin.
  6. +2
    20 July 2022 16: 45
    Quote: nnm
    I have only one question:
    - how can people who have built a system in the Russian Federation that is strikingly different from that described in the article be able, or rather, want to build something different in the liberated territories?
    This is similar to Einstein's famous quote about stupidity, when doing the same thing (I would only add in this situation that the same people do it) we expect to get a different result.
    Any system, including political and economic, is characterized by such a term as "homeostasis" - and will only reproduce itself over and over again, in any conditions.

    Because for these people the main task and goal is to maintain their regime and power. Everything else as it arrives.
  7. +4
    20 July 2022 16: 48
    Under what conditions is Russia ready to integrate the territories of the former Ukraine

    There are no conditions.
  8. +11
    20 July 2022 16: 56
    At the same time, the ruling big bourgeoisie is split into national and comprador bourgeoisie, their interests seriously diverge, and they are in a state of permanent war among themselves.

    I remembered the dialogue about printing on a document. There one character asks another:
    - What kind of seal do you want to put: real or fake?
    - What's the difference?
    - The real one is more expensive, the fake one is prettier.
    Something similar here. Neither the Russian home-grown nor the comprador bourgeoisie have any interests other than making a profit through speculation or by embezzling budgetary funds.
    stop There are also those who cover the drug trade, the illegal business of tobacco and alcohol, and prostitution.
  9. +7
    20 July 2022 16: 56
    - I need five hundred thousand. And whenever possible at once, but not in parts.
    - Can you still take parts? - asked the vengeful Balaganov. Ostap looked attentively at his interlocutor and quite seriously replied:
    - I would take parts. But I need to immediately (c) If we integrate in parts, the forest that has not been chopped will grow again ... Immediately integrate, it will stretch for years. And what does the author mean by integration? The transfer of assets, the Ukrainian comprador bourgeoisie, under the strong hand of the Russian national bourgeoisie? In Ukraine, in the hands of the so-called Russian national bourgeoisie, there are enough assets. It seems that if Motor Sich, or whatever it is right, belonged to Russian national oligarchs, this plant would still produce aircraft engines for UAVs, there would be no need for its demilitarization. By the way, Zaporizhstal belongs to Abramovich.
  10. -3
    20 July 2022 17: 01
    You just need to press until the end of the dill.
    It should become like this.
    Ilya Ehrenburg
    "Kill
    Like blood in your temple
    Like a year in the blood, like an account of insults,
    As grief drunk and without wine,
    And how great silence
    What after bullets and after mines,
    And a hundred pounds, for a moment,
    Like this life - don't eat, don't drink
    And do not breathe - one thing: kill!
    For your wife’s tight mouth
    For years burned
    For there is no sleep, no walls,
    For the cry of children, for the cry of sirens,
    For the fact that even the image
    His eyes cried
    Behind the mountain of insulted bees
    Because he came to you
    Because you don’t eat, don’t drink,
    Like blood in the temple - one thing: kill!

    November 1942, XNUMX
    Fits perfectly for our times.
  11. +9
    20 July 2022 17: 06
    With the start of the special operation in Russia, two conditional “parties” are fighting for the shape of the future - the “guardians”, who defend the return to the already dead illusory status quo, and the “mobilization” party, which is set up for a tough confrontation with the West and the return of Russia to the status of a great power.

    I don’t know the mobilization party .. I want to see it, but somehow it still hasn’t appeared.
    Good examples of building such societies are, for example, "socialism with Chinese characteristics" and "Islamic socialism" in Iran.

    I do not see anything good in these examples. Here you need to build your own socialism, exactly the same as Grudinin, Platoshkin proposed ..
    1. +9
      20 July 2022 17: 24
      I do not see anything good in these examples. Here you need to build your own socialism, exactly the same as Grudinin, Platoshkin proposed ..
      So who will give it, even in this form? (I don’t share their views, but oh well) Both are cleaned up.
      1. +8
        20 July 2022 17: 29
        Quote: parusnik
        (I don’t share their views, but oh well) Both are cleared.

        What don't you like about their looks? And yes .. they cleaned everything and worked the soil so that only weeds have the right to grow ..
        1. +7
          20 July 2022 17: 41
          Here, I wrote, well, okay laughing I don't want to discuss this topic. laughing He emphasized his attitude. But even such "harmless" ones were removed anyway .. Who is the candidate for the previous ones?
          With a sigh, the knight around him
          Looking with sad eyes.
          "O field, field, who are you
          Dotted with dead bones?" (c)
    2. +1
      20 July 2022 18: 40
      Quote: Svarog
      Here you need to build your socialism, exactly like this what Grudinin, Platoshkin offered..
      belay "I would not trust him, he is doubtful" (Pokrovsky Gates)
      1. 0
        20 July 2022 18: 58
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        "I would not trust him, he is doubtful" (Pokrovsky Gates)

        If every bright person was followed by an eyewitness, then there would be a darkness of eyewitnesses in the world and not a single bright person.
        Don Aminado
    3. 0
      26 July 2022 09: 28
      Quote: Svarog
      Here you need to build your own socialism, exactly the same as Grudinin,

      This is the one in his program strictly contradicted program of the Communist Party?
      Yes, and in Platoshkin's program, the points contradicted each other - and very strongly ...
  12. -1
    20 July 2022 18: 20
    Under what conditions is Russia ready to integrate the territories of the former Ukraine
    Another opus on the topic: What is nothing and how to make something out of it.
  13. +2
    20 July 2022 18: 30
    Does the author of the article have a clear understanding (point by point) of what needs to be done, at least in a macro version? Without getting hung up on the details, in which, as you know, lies a bright, but vile personality.
  14. +6
    20 July 2022 18: 47
    Russian civilizational values

    And what are these values? And yes ... a typical modern resident of a large city in Russia, in terms of their mentality and values, is usually much closer to similar residents of large cities in Western Europe than to a Russian peasant of the 16-17th centuries. And this process is objective and inevitable.
    based on individualism

    And what is bad healthy reasonable individualism?
    this is not socialism, where everyone is equal (equality never happens, a person already at birth differs from another in his abilities)

    Of course, the socialist doctrine never claimed that all people are equal in terms of innate abilities. Socialism claims that people are equal in their legal status (in terms of fundamental rights, freedoms and social obligations), while the level of remuneration for work still depends on talents, knowledge and diligence. That is, under socialism it is completely normal that, say, a neurosurgeon will receive more for his work than a janitor or plumber (although both of them will be equally guaranteed basic rights, freedoms and a basic standard of living). But the children of a neurosurgeon and a janitor will have EQUAL opportunities and rights - to receive education, medical care, and leisure.
    And under socialism, the powers that a civil servant, policeman, judge use by virtue of their work can only be used in connection with the performance of their work, only in the interests of the whole society and only in strict accordance with the law. At the same time, in terms of basic civil rights and freedoms, both a police officer and a plumber under socialism will also be equal.
    Thus, socialism, of course, does not deny that people are not the same in terms of natural talents. But caste / class inequality, in which some are privileged from birth, while others are oppressed, of course, denies.
    government structure of the state, working for the interests of the whole society

    Of course, the ideal cannot be achieved here, but these conditions are best suited .. a democratic form of government in which officials are accountable to society and therefore are obliged to take into account the interests of the maximum possible number of members of this very society.
    The problem in the case of the capitalist system is only that big business distorts the work of the democratic mechanism with the help of bribery and paid lobbying of their interests. Unfortunately there is.
    But this does not change the fact that other forms of government are much worse by their very nature.
    At the same time, the main thing is to provide a decent standard of living for its citizens.

    And what is it supposed to do?
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      26 July 2022 09: 33
      Quote: Terran Ghost
      And under socialism, the powers that a civil servant, policeman, judge use by virtue of their work can only be used in connection with the performance of their work, only in the interests of the whole society and only in strict accordance with the law.

      - about "vertebrates" under socialism in the USSR or about "blat", no, haven't you heard?
  15. +2
    20 July 2022 19: 10
    Some carry out a special operation, others explain everything, explain, explain...
    Moreover, according to the text, without any connection with real power and reality.

    There are no examples, data, statistics in the article, only bare conclusions.

    But in reality - an example of LDNR. Where the Russian Spring is canceled, EDRO is in power, the Oligarchs-owners in Moscow and poverty, poverty, poverty ...

    All sorts of promises about a resort city, restoration of enterprises .... I believe more in a post I met on the Internet by a well-known businessman who had just gone there ..., no matter how he relates to them. Can't restore...

    And what will we take in any case - so all the statements have already been made. Putin's early words that we will not cut Ukraine are no longer remembered
  16. -1
    20 July 2022 21: 03
    Quote: nnm
    I have only one question:
    - how can people who have built a system in the Russian Federation that is strikingly different from that described in the article be able, or rather, want to build something different in the liberated territories?
    This is similar to Einstein's famous quote about stupidity, when doing the same thing (I would only add in this situation that the same people do it) we expect to get a different result.
    Any system, including political and economic, is characterized by such a term as "homeostasis" - and will only reproduce itself over and over again, in any conditions.

    no no. homeostasis is different. what you are describing is idempotence
  17. 0
    20 July 2022 22: 07
    If it is not ready, then it will be disintegrated.
  18. +2
    20 July 2022 22: 35
    we were told which of the generals of the Russian army commanded troops on the fronts of Donbass. But
    we still do not know which military command the troops of the army-militia of the Republics of Donbass. So do not forget and exclude the factor of the military leaders of the army of Donbass on the fronts, after the victory in the NWO. It can be assumed that they will take power into their own hands in the elections after the end of the NWO and, perhaps, the political state structure in the republics will turn to serve the common people. So how will the Russian authorities behave then? To accept such republics as part of Russia? And what if in the republics of Donbass after the SVO for a stolen million, they will immediately be put up against the wall by a court decision, and in Russia for a stolen billion they only remove them from golden toilet bowls to a slop bucket for several years. And no one in the republics of Donbass will suddenly release a thief abroad like Chubais from Russia, but will put him against the same wall.
    So wait, after the victory in the NMD, the military of the Donbass army can still remind you that they didn’t shed blood and defend their land, so that after the victory in the republics of Donbass, thieves, corruption, nepotism and oligarchs would bathe in gold. And if the same thing is presented after the victory in the NMD and the military armies of Russia of their power ... There, in the battles for the Motherland, they change their minds a lot, they will return ...
  19. +4
    21 July 2022 01: 07
    Since the time of the Soviet Union, nationality has been determined by anthropological characteristics, which is far from being the case.

    Did the author not confuse the USSR with Nazi Germany?
    It was in Germany that according to the tables with the shape of the skull, racial affiliation was determined.
    But in the USSR the system was different. The nationality of the parents was entered into the birth certificate, and when receiving a passport, a person determined his nationality by the nationality of one of the parents - it was recorded in the passport, and only then it fit into the birth certificate of his children.
  20. +1
    21 July 2022 04: 22
    Rogozin
  21. 0
    21 July 2022 07: 17
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Quote: Svarog
    Here you need to build your socialism, exactly like this what Grudinin, Platoshkin offered..
    belay "I would not trust him, he is doubtful" (Pokrovsky Gates)

    I wouldn't trust you. You are even more dubious.
  22. +2
    21 July 2022 07: 23
    Yuri Apukhtin believes that "nationality in the USSR was determined by anthropological characteristics."
    After that you can read no further...

    Now the mainstream is such that the USSR is such an epic mythical country where not people lived, but "scoops" with two heads and barked like a dog, they did not know how to make sausage, but they knew how to make rockets. Quite already eklmn ... they survived out of their minds .. "on anthropological grounds"
  23. 0
    21 July 2022 07: 34
    God forbid the "effective" know-it-all Rogozin!!!
  24. 0
    21 July 2022 18: 19
    Under what conditions is Russia ready to integrate the territories of the former Ukraine

    Partial answer:
    Mikhail Delyagin: Russia will have to be honest in order to survive
    https://svpressa.ru/economy/article/339721/
    There is no point in defeating Ukraine without offering it an attractive future
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    However, we do not see any serious signs of "reformatting" the entire system for active development on the basis of an ideology that unites society and a well-developed development strategy. And where will global change come from?

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