Vučić: If the West refuses Putin's proposal on Ukraine, the world will face hell

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The Ukrainian army, even with the help of Western assistance, will not be able to stop the offensive of Russian troops, Donbass will be completely liberated. After that, the Russian president will set conditions, refusing which the Western countries will plunge the world into hell. This was stated by Serbian President Aleksandar Vučić.

The Serbian leader, speaking about the military operation of the Russian army in Ukraine, stressed that now there is not a clash between Kyiv and Moscow, but a clash between the Western world and Russia. According to him, the Ukrainian army, even with Western military assistance, will not be able to stop the Russian troops.



The entire Western world is at war with the Russians through the Ukrainians, of course, big changes are taking place in this area and in a difficult situation

- Vučić said, adding that, in his opinion, the Russian president would make a proposal to the West to end the conflict. This will happen after the complete liberation of Donbass. If the West refuses the conditions of Russia, hell awaits the world.

I know what awaits us. As soon as Vladimir Putin finishes business in Seversk, Bakhmut and Soledar, and then on the second line Slavyansk - Kramatorsk - Avdeevka, his proposal will follow. If they don't accept it, and they don't intend to, we'll go to hell.

he stressed. However, Vučić did not explain what Putin's proposal was.

Earlier, the President of Serbia announced the risk of the local conflict in Ukraine escalating into a large-scale one with the participation of NATO countries.
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    1. +14
      14 July 2022 13: 31
      Um, does Vucic know something about Putin's plans that we don't? winked
      1. +4
        14 July 2022 13: 34
        I think there is only one plan: a complete reformatting of Ukraine (change of power, constitution and neither NATO nor the EU), without a fight with the full consent of the parties.
        1. +4
          14 July 2022 13: 46
          Quote: marchcat
          I think there is only one plan: a complete reformatting of Ukraine (change of power, constitution and neither NATO nor the EU), without a fight with the full consent of the parties.

          Perhaps the division of the country under the control of the UN into 3 parts. If so, then this is a 100% defeat.
          1. man
            +4
            14 July 2022 15: 37
            Perhaps the division of the country under the control of the UN into 3 parts.
            My friend, who knows German, told me yesterday that she had read a similar version in a message from some German agency. Allegedly, there is already an agreement that western Ukraine will go to Poland, eastern will go to us and only the central Ukraine will remain from Ukraine, which will pay the West for debts. For what I bought, for that I sell. I myself have not the slightest guess
            1. +8
              14 July 2022 20: 49
              Quote: mann
              Allegedly, there is already an agreement that western Ukraine will go to Poland, the eastern one will go to us, and only the central one will remain from Ukraine, which will pay off the debts to the west.

              This plan was proposed by Kisinger, this is the wishlist of the Old Fox against the background of the fact that Russia has not broken down and is winning, and the entire West is pouring in economy, finance, social frenzy and loss of authority in Asia, Africa and Latin America.
              For us, the acceptance of such a proposal would be a definite defeat. Any most temporary "truce" is also a defeat.
              But the whole intrigue is that for the last 4 months in the Russian Federation there has been the formation of volunteer units on a contract basis. And their number is growing. And very soon all this force, which has passed military coordination, will be ready to start denazification. Everything that happened during the entire 2nd stage was just holding the situation / fronts and solving the water issue of Donbass. And where these fresh forces will be applied, on what fronts, only one person knows for sure ... Well, maybe a little more ...
              And when the 3rd phase of the special operation begins, it may turn out to be a VERY unpleasant surprise for the enemy (collective and collective). And then it will be too late to negotiate .
              And is it worth it?
              It’s pointless to wait for a good offer from the revitalized West, but to make him a good offer ... too late. A good offer was made to him at the end of last year.
              All .
              The good is over.
              Only the Righteous remains.
              The inevitable.
              And Honored.
              And I can’t even imagine how the West could apologize and correct what they have done ...
              1. +2
                15 July 2022 07: 32
                An excellent comment, and I see no reason to take the initiative to talk with the West now, we have already tried it. Let the West now take the initiative and it needs to start by lifting all sanctions, but it will not do that. There is no subject for discussion here.
          2. +9
            14 July 2022 16: 26
            Quote: dorz
            under UN control

            This means under the control of the FSA ... negative
      2. +3
        14 July 2022 13: 35
        The conclusion is very simple, you need to buy a house in a village with land, away from the epicenter of an atomic explosion in large cities. They won't reach the Urals anyway
        1. +5
          14 July 2022 13: 53
          As I understand it, there will be no one and nothing to reach. sad
        2. +9
          14 July 2022 14: 03
          They won’t reach the Urals, but they will ... We have too much industry, and also military factories ... So no even a very deep dugout will save in case of something. This “in which case” cannot be allowed in any way, and I think even the most stupid Anglo-Saxon and the most Russophobic Pole with the most sluggish Scandinavian understand this. And we, the Russians, (let's collectively call us that) have never wanted war and do not want it now, because the Great Patriotic War is too fresh in our memory.
        3. Aag
          0
          14 July 2022 17: 37
          Quote: Clever man
          The conclusion is very simple, you need to buy a house in a village with land, away from the epicenter of an atomic explosion in large cities. They won't reach the Urals anyway

          See which side they go from.
          ... That's right - the Urals.
      3. +13
        14 July 2022 13: 37
        Quote from Pharmacist
        Um, does Vucic know something about Putin's plans that we don't? winked

        I do not think there will be no war between Russia and Europe and the USA + Co. Why do we pour water on the US mill. If Russia stops at the border of Donbass and Lugansk, Russian citizens will not understand this. Nazism must be destroyed in the den. But hell will come and so in Europe and the USA + Co., they arranged it for themselves.
        1. +2
          14 July 2022 14: 02
          That's exactly what they are on their own. I don't know if a deal is possible. But Serbia was not included in the plans. She will become friendly. And many EU countries too.
      4. 0
        14 July 2022 13: 57
        I think yes, more.
      5. -4
        14 July 2022 14: 28
        Laughter of course.
        Understand the Serbs, the country and the population wholeheartedly with Russia, but their situation is very difficult - openly hostile states from all sides, with some of which there was a civil war.
        All significant environment is in NATO and the EU.
        If we won an unconditional victory in Ukraine in 1-3 months, they would even be afraid to look askance at Serbia. And so everyone sees that we are not very, so we have grown bolder. They kick us and our allies.
        It's a shame it's all, do not say anything.
        1. +10
          14 July 2022 14: 45
          If we won an unconditional victory in Ukraine in 1-3 months, they would even be afraid to look askance at Serbia. And so everyone sees that we are not very, so we have grown bolder.

          A military victory in 1 month would not have allowed the start of the economic strangulation of the West and, ultimately, an economic victory over usurers.
          Everything is dosed here - both military and economic war and victory at the same time - aerobatics in the performance of GDP.
          ))))
          1. -2
            14 July 2022 16: 25
            If this is some kind of sarcasm, then it is incomprehensible. If it's a joke, then not really.
            1. 0
              14 July 2022 18: 23
              What sarcasm? Who promised you "victory in a month"? Well, at least try to analyze the current actions of our aircraft. Based on your logic, it turns out that if not in a month, then in three it was necessary to erase the entire 404, along with cities and so on.
              And now even the infrastructure is not strongly broken. So the question is something else?
              1. -1
                14 July 2022 18: 54
                Who promised you "victory in a month"?..

                I am nobody, my name is nothing, and nobody promised me anything personally.
                Moreover, to convince me of something about what is happening is meaningless. In this world, very little depends on me.

                Convince the West of this - they are preparing to fight with us and share the last 100 years. Tell us about your plan. And listen to what they say.
                I don't really see the point in talking about it here. If I write something, then obvious things.
                Convince the population of the country - 145 million people.
                What's the point in arguing with me? Who the hell needs me.
                1. 0
                  14 July 2022 20: 50
                  those. 140 million people were convinced of the transience of the operation? Have you been in the hospital for the last 4,5 months? Have you been following the news? You, specifically YOU, what do you need to explain? Are you still in infantilism? Do you NEED to explain that 404 is a bargaining chip? This is not a goal and not a reason, but just an intermediate link? Do you need to explain that this is only the beginning?
                  That it is not the army of Ukraine that is fighting with us at all? What next will be a grander showdown? What do they learn on the go and what do we get?
                  In your place, if you do not understand this, you can safely go to the nearest forest with canned food and a tent. Insulated for winter temperatures.
                  1. -1
                    14 July 2022 21: 58
                    To be honest, it is difficult to understand something from a set of disparate phrases. But I'll try point by point.
                    1)
                    those. 140 million people were convinced of the transience of the operation? ...

                    Unfortunately yes. The fact that on the 2-3rd day they landed troops in Gostomel. Then it seemed that another 5-6 days and all. Both here and abroad. I don't even want to remember what happened next. You yourself know everything. Instead of a relatively painless removal of the government, the Ukrainians have chosen the bloodiest option with hostilities throughout the country. To be more precise, the West chose it for them.
                    2)
                    this is a swap card...
                    I know. The fuss around Ukraine has been inevitable since 2000. When it became clear that the Russian Federation did not intend to fall apart further (2nd Chechen).
                    3)
                    That it is not the army of Ukraine that is fighting with us at all? ...
                    More correctly, "the personnel of the Ukrainian army + mercenaries / instructors are fighting under the leadership of commanders from NATO."
                    4)
                    What next will be a grander showdown? ..
                    Why else is this? You just need to state your position: send in troops, no matter whose coalition NATO / Polish / "volunteer" .., we use nuclear weapons in the western regions of Ukraine (limitedly). In the case of an answer, we beat in response to everything that is. After that, there can and will be a disassembly, but more in the plane of the economy.
                    Now the most dangerous option is to grant Ukrainian citizenship to the entire Polish army.
                    5) About infantilism, forest, etc. - I propose without insults.
                    In any case, there was a chance to take the central regions of the country (Krivoy Rog, Dnepropetrovsk ...) by the end of March, destroying the rear of the APU, but something went wrong. What exactly - we will find out for sure in 10-20 years.
                    Now it is already difficult to do this - the front has been formed on both sides. The only way out is to inflict a military defeat in the Donbass, to grind the bulk of the troops. The fact that we will succeed - I do not even doubt whether we will be able to take advantage of the success.
                    1. +1
                      15 July 2022 06: 51
                      "Then it seemed that another 5-6 days and that's it."
                      ===========
                      Perhaps you thought so. Personally, I don't at all. And any sane person, too. Moreover, the throw on Gostomel, it is clear that it did not solve anything in terms of the capture of Kyiv. The bulk of the most capable, trained and armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have always been in the Donbass. It is a fiction to take a million-plus city, in which everything that is possible is concentrated, namely, Kyiv, in this way. If there was such a task, there, at least a hundred thousand had to be pulled up. Plus tanks, plus the National Guard, plus everything else. And so, they believed and pulled their zsu from more important directions. What would the capture of Kyiv give? This whole gang would have been led from Poland or somewhere else.
                      We are only now finishing up the main fortified areas in the LDNR. There is a lot to write and discuss on this topic, but most importantly, with that amount of strength, there were no five days, a month or three, and could not be. There was an appeal to the military 404. Take power into your own hands, we will agree. If they could hear/could then this throw would make sense. But no one heard. And now he won't even hear it. Therefore, forget you already these myths and fairy tales. We are there for a long time, because they did not come to capture 404.
        2. 0
          14 July 2022 18: 07
          So the next land corridor is to Serbia! Yes
          1. 0
            14 July 2022 18: 24
            Or, alternatively, the partition of Poland. Choate they're clever dof and ha.
      6. +1
        14 July 2022 14: 35
        He apparently only now listened carefully to the statements of the GDP to the West BEFORE February 24th. In general, up to one duck has already reached.
      7. 0
        14 July 2022 17: 06
        Yes, most likely he hinted that the parties concerned are not ready to make mutual concessions and are considering a third world war as the most likely scenario.
    2. +4
      14 July 2022 13: 32
      However, Vučić did not explain what Putin's proposal was.
      Hidden, however...
    3. AAK
      -27
      14 July 2022 13: 32
      Even the two-faced Serb understands that everything will stop for Russia by acquiring the Donbass destroyed in the trash ... Let's return the territories in the Kherson, Zaporozhye, Kharkiv regions, and there the Crimea "as a gesture of good will" ...
      1. +5
        14 July 2022 13: 52
        You have an interesting desire to believe in two-faced people and not to believe in simple words.
        We haven't started yet
        1. AAK
          -5
          14 July 2022 13: 55
          It's been almost 5 months, wouldn't it be time to start already?
          1. +3
            14 July 2022 14: 01
            Start, who's stopping you?
          2. +5
            14 July 2022 14: 48
            Your efforts are not enough
      2. +6
        14 July 2022 13: 52
        Yes, you, sir, are apparently out of order, since you are making such conclusions
        1. AAK
          -6
          14 July 2022 14: 00
          if claims against me, then refute:
          - started chaotically, normal organization
      3. -1
        14 July 2022 15: 19
        Do you think a real war is like playing in the COP?
    4. -1
      14 July 2022 13: 32
      , Donbass will be completely liberated. After that, the Russian president will set conditions, refusing which Western countries will plunge the world into hell.
      That is, everything will end in the Donbass?
      1. +4
        14 July 2022 13: 48
        Quote: Gardamir
        That is, everything will end in the Donbass?

        It will end when Zelya.....

      2. -2
        14 July 2022 13: 49
        Quote: Gardamir
        That is, everything will end in the Donbass?

        Judging by yesterday's conversations, with the propagandist Solovyov on the program, everything is moving towards this. His rhetoric changed dramatically.
        1. +4
          14 July 2022 14: 08
          Possible option. With the surrender of Ukraine. If this does not happen, then I'm afraid we will all soon find ourselves either in heaven or hell. However, I don't particularly care. I don't believe in an afterlife. And I'm tired of living. I have one problem now. Move away from drinking and go to the draft board.
          1. +9
            14 July 2022 14: 47
            There is no surrender with terrorists. They are completely destroyed. Otherwise, they will raise their heads again and become bolder.
          2. AAC
            0
            14 July 2022 17: 15
            There is nothing for you to do there. Boom further.
            1. +2
              14 July 2022 17: 37
              No, I'm tired of drinking. I want to be useful. I worked three or five jobs anyway. That's why he drank. Stop drinking this crap. If you die, then on the battlefield. Let at least to shreds, but instantly. I would like to have time to bring benefits. But here's how it will turn out
        2. man
          0
          14 July 2022 15: 43
          Judging by yesterday's conversations, with the propagandist Solovyov on the program, everything is moving towards this. His rhetoric changed dramatically.
          Do you seriously believe that the Kremlin informs .... Solovyov? smile
          1. 0
            14 July 2022 16: 06
            Quote: mann
            Do you seriously believe that the Kremlin informs .... Solovyov?

            With those Kremlin services that are responsible for propaganda, he undoubtedly works in close contact. For all the decisions made in the Kremlin, he always presents in the most favorable light. At the same time, all the objections of opponents run into hysteria and rudeness. Solovyov was once a good journalist, with a relatively independent point of view. Now on his programs, there is never any criticism of the actions of the supreme power. The maximum can be scolded, middle managers. And that's if it's okay.
            1. Aag
              0
              14 July 2022 17: 51
              Quote: Third District
              Quote: mann
              Do you seriously believe that the Kremlin informs .... Solovyov?

              With those Kremlin services that are responsible for propaganda, he undoubtedly works in close contact. For all the decisions made in the Kremlin, he always presents in the most favorable light. At the same time, all the objections of opponents run into hysteria and rudeness. Solovyov was once a good journalist, with a relatively independent point of view. Now on his programs, there is never any criticism of the actions of the supreme power. The maximum can be scolded, middle managers. And that's if it's okay.

              You seem to be talking about the TV format. On the radio "Vesti FM" in general horror! It seems that he is trying to be "closer to the people")), - the rhetoric is such that you should not turn on the radio with a child.
              But in fact, with one guest in the studio, he nods in one direction, in the next hour, with another guest (expert), - maybe in the opposite (side). IMHO.
              1. 0
                14 July 2022 18: 25
                Quote: AAG
                You seem to be talking about the TV format. On the radio "Vesti FM" in general horror!

                I don’t listen to Vesti Fm at all in recent years. Previously, the programs on this radio were very popular with the people. They often gave an objective assessment of events and did not hesitate to criticize our superiors. Now everything has become one-sided and only rare guests are allowed critical statements. Such as Kedmi and Satanovsky.
                1. Aag
                  +1
                  14 July 2022 18: 41
                  Quote: Third District
                  Quote: AAG
                  You seem to be talking about the TV format. On the radio "Vesti FM" in general horror!

                  I don’t listen to Vesti Fm at all in recent years. Previously, the programs on this radio were very popular with the people. They often gave an objective assessment of events and did not hesitate to criticize our superiors. Now everything has become one-sided and only rare guests are allowed critical statements. Such as Kedmi and Satanovsky.

                  I agree.
                  I often have it on in the background at work...
                  Separate military correspondents from the field of events were added to Kedmi, Satanovsky.
                  V.R. Solovyov actively agrees (about shortcomings, shortages), and in the next hour he can claim that everything is wrong, insult opponents. It's disgusting.
                  hi
          2. ada
            0
            15 July 2022 13: 11
            Quote: mann
            Do you seriously believe that the Kremlin informs .... Solovyov?

            No, no, there is “another”: Solovyov informs the Kremlin, one of the “towers” ​​whispers and also with his head, he does it in such a mannered way (according to tradition), probably Spasskaya, it’s hard to see with the wall wassat
      3. 0
        14 July 2022 17: 26
        Yes, FIG knows how and when it will end. Events change very quickly and can be interpreted in different ways. For example:
        1. Breaking diplomatic ties.
        2. Replacement of political figures in Europe.
        3. Departure of the business (and already mutual).
        4. Europe begins to slow down the supply of military equipment (because they themselves may need it).
        5. Urgent admission of Sweden and Finland to NATO.
        6. Shutdown for the repair of the gas pipeline fits very well (an additional blow to the industry of Europe).
        7. Strengthened formation of volunteer units.
        This can be interpreted as the fact that the world is moving towards a conflict between NATO and Russia. And it could start as early as this year.
    5. +5
      14 July 2022 13: 33
      As soon as Vladimir Putin finishes business in Seversk, Bakhmut and Soledar, and then on the second line Slavyansk - Kramatorsk - Avdeevka, his proposal will follow.

      Offer - Give without resistance, Kharkov, Nikolaev and Odessa. Well, you can pick up Dnepropetrovsk.
      1. +1
        14 July 2022 13: 39
        Offer - Give without resistance, Kharkov, Nikolaev and Odessa. Well, you can pick up Dnepropetrovsk.
        +1
        1. ada
          +1
          15 July 2022 13: 14
          Offer - Give without resistance, Kharkov, Nikolaev and Odessa. Well, you can pick up Dnepropetrovsk.
          + 1 + 2
      2. +2
        14 July 2022 15: 10
        No. In December there was a proposal - NATO within the boundaries of the 97th year. Now it will be proposed to dissolve NATO and recognize the border of the Russian Federation along the Curzon line plus Kaliningrad.
        The first offer of Russia is always the most profitable. At one time, the West refused not to expand. Now they seem to have agreed, but the station is gone...
      3. man
        +6
        14 July 2022 15: 47
        Offer - Give without resistance, Kharkov, Nikolaev and Odessa. Well, you can pick up Dnepropetrovsk.
        and Alaska. Alaska was forgotten smile
        1. +1
          14 July 2022 16: 04
          Quote: mann
          and Alaska. Alaska was forgotten

          Well, if only, as for the reservation of national battalions and terbats.
        2. AAC
          +1
          14 July 2022 17: 17
          If only out of principle. And so it is even further from Moscow than Chukotka. It will completely fall into disrepair.
          1. man
            +1
            14 July 2022 17: 55
            If only out of principle. And so it is even further from Moscow than Chukotka. It will completely fall into disrepair.
            Oh, well, I thought Alaska was not far from Odessa. Damned sclerosis! laughing
    6. +3
      14 July 2022 13: 34
      Vučić: If the West refuses Putin's proposal on Ukraine, the world will face hell
      Everything is relative!
      After the winter, many will have a desire to TALK, and not snort and turn up their noses ... this is at the expense of those who stay in power in general!
    7. +6
      14 July 2022 13: 34
      Enter Kosovo, Vučić, because Kosovo is Serbian, the battle of the blackbirds, Kosovo is the Covadonga of Serbia. Now, scoundrels, freedom to the great general Ratko Mladic, God bless him.
      1. man
        +1
        14 July 2022 15: 50
        Now, scoundrels, freedom to the great general Ratko Mladic, God bless him.
        After your appeal, they will certainly be released, they will be afraid of your anger
    8. 0
      14 July 2022 13: 34
      Obviously Vucic, reminiscent of Putin's versions of Hell and Paradise, for the West.
    9. -3
      14 July 2022 13: 43
      After that, the Russian president will set conditions, refusing which the Western countries will plunge the world into hell.

      Judging by the agreement on the export of grain and the inspection of incoming ships by Turkey, we do not set the conditions.
      1. +1
        14 July 2022 14: 11
        Everything changes sooner or later
    10. -7
      14 July 2022 13: 52
      Volodin spoke about this in plain text a long time ago:
      There is Putin - there is Russia, there is no Putin - there is no Russia

      That is, Putin=Russia.

      Now remember the famous saying:
      Why do we need such a world if Russia will not be there?


      Perform the simplest substitution and get a ready forecast for the future:
      Why do we need such a world if there is no Putin?


      The world is alive only as long as Putin is alive. No one on earth will survive it, and do not even hope. We all go with him.
      We must all pray every day for him to live as long as possible!

      PS By the way, the West also understands this very well.
      1. +6
        14 July 2022 13: 59
        Eka, my friend, is not childishly rushing to you!
      2. +4
        14 July 2022 14: 04
        And why do you suddenly mention the statements of one Volodin ?, then write something else that Petrov Ivanov, Sidorov, etc. say. etc. otherwise you’ll pull up the words that you need at that moment and format it in your own way, and even take it out for everyone to see.
        1. +1
          14 July 2022 15: 31
          Why do you suddenly mention the statements of one Volodin?


          Solely because of the position Volodin holds.
          Chairman of the State Duma, permanent member of the Security Council of the Russian Federation.

          This is not just Petrov Ivanov Sidorov.
          1. 0
            15 July 2022 07: 38
            Well, let's go from the "other side", with your logic, not such events can be seen yet ..
      3. R
        +5
        14 July 2022 14: 40
        The world is alive only as long as Putin is alive. No one on earth will survive it, and do not even hope. We all go with him.
        We must all pray every day for him to live as long as possible!


        Mityok, you would .... tied it up with heavy nonsense laughing
        1. +1
          14 July 2022 15: 38
          Thank you very much for your valuable advice.

          And you apparently consider Putin and Volodin to be irresponsible talkers?
          Prefer to just ignore their words?
          Alas, when you realize that they were telling the truth, it will be too late.
          1. man
            0
            14 July 2022 19: 09
            Thank you very much for your valuable advice.

            And you apparently consider Putin and Volodin to be irresponsible talkers?
            Prefer to just ignore their words?
            Alas, when you realize that they were telling the truth, it will be too late.

            Pretty boy! laughing good
      4. man
        +1
        14 July 2022 16: 01
        Volodin spoke about this in plain text a long time ago:
        There is Putin - there is Russia, there is no Putin - there is no Russia

        Actually, not Volodin, but Sergei Ivanov.
        Liked the rest good , but I’m afraid they won’t appreciate it here. VO readers have a tight sense of humor laughing
        1. +2
          14 July 2022 18: 53
          Actually, not Volodin, but Sergei Ivanov.


          Classics must be known by heart wink :
          https://www.mk.ru/politics/2014/10/23/volodin-est-putin-est-rossiya-net-putina-net-rossii.html
          Volodin: "There is Putin - there is Russia, there is no Putin - there is no Russia"
          1. man
            0
            14 July 2022 19: 05
            But Ivanov also said something similar, I saw it on TV.
            One of them stole the other's idea smile
            1. ada
              0
              15 July 2022 13: 20
              Quote: mann
              One of them stole the other's idea

              They are like-minded Yes
              1. man
                0
                15 July 2022 21: 05
                They are like-minded
                In this case, more competitors smile
    11. 0
      14 July 2022 14: 10
      And in response - stories from the crypt
    12. 0
      14 July 2022 14: 17
      Now I don’t understand whether to take a mortgage or wait a couple of months ....
      1. +3
        14 July 2022 14: 32
        Now I don’t understand whether to take a mortgage or wait a couple of months ....

        Take it, by all means!
        And if we all go to heaven, you will also leave a bank with a nose ....
        bully hi
        1. +1
          15 July 2022 04: 54
          I got it, run to the bank
      2. +3
        14 July 2022 15: 12
        You need to take a bank, then no mortgage will be needed and there will be nothing to wait for. bully
      3. man
        +1
        14 July 2022 16: 04
        Now I don’t understand whether to take a mortgage or wait a couple of months ....
        It’s not worth it, the bank will get you in the next world. The Lord himself will be hired as collectors
        1. +1
          15 July 2022 04: 56
          Do you think? But in the next world, the conversation with the collector will be very short ....
          1. man
            +1
            15 July 2022 08: 57
            But in the next world, the conversation with the collector will be very short ....
            Please specify in what sense short?
            1. ada
              +1
              15 July 2022 13: 36
              Presumably - short in view of the negligible probability of the events being discussed and the reason for the complacent conversations about the beautiful weather put there, and deviations from the topic are not welcome (for sure they follow the order) laughing
              1. man
                +1
                15 July 2022 21: 02
                Presumably - short in view of the negligible probability of the events being discussed and the reason for the complacent conversations about the beautiful weather put there, and deviations from the topic are not welcome (for sure they follow the order)
                I suspect that you underestimate the capabilities and greed of our bankers smile From under the earth they will get the debtor, and only in heaven ... laughing
            2. +1
              15 July 2022 18: 29
              The only clarification is whether he wants to go to hell right now or another time.
    13. GNM
      +5
      14 July 2022 14: 38
      Vučić decided to act as a translator for those who are especially stupid, those who do not understand what is written in Russian in white.

      Soviet anecdote:
      Platoon Leader:
      - Who can repair the radio station on an armored personnel carrier?
      Bespectacled:
      - A radio station on lamps or semi ... semiconductors?
      Foreman:
      - I repeat for the especially stupid, a radio station on an armored personnel carrier!
    14. 0
      14 July 2022 14: 56
      He knows the map of hostilities well
    15. -1
      14 July 2022 15: 09
      Nobody knows Putin's plans, as well as Shoigu's capabilities. Perhaps Lavrov will someday voice it. And Vucic, and what about Vucic, he is not his own master, jumping like a ball in table tennis, then to Russia, then to the geyropa. hi
    16. +1
      14 July 2022 15: 19
      And the proposal should be one, remove the smelly NATO asses to the borders of 1997! If you don't want it for good, it will be for bad!
      1. 0
        14 July 2022 16: 39
        Quote: maiman61
        And the proposal should be one, remove the smelly NATO asses to the borders of 1997! If you don't want it for good, it will be for bad!

        Then, in December, they thought that Putin was bluffing. And now - Kharkov is in a semicircle, the allied forces are at a distance of a tank shot from Slavyansk and the Germans are stocking up on firewood ...
    17. +6
      14 July 2022 15: 23
      Did you see?.. In this photo - a prophecy

      Young Zelensky on the swing is of course wonderful .. but ..
      You are looking at the shadow ... We wish this to Zelensky. And faster -
      1. +1
        14 July 2022 16: 32
        Quote: RED_ICE
        Did you see?.. In this photo - a prophecy

        Young Zelensky on the swing is of course wonderful .. but ..
        You are looking at the shadow ... We wish this to Zelensky. And faster -

        A sign from above? How would you send this photo to him?!
      2. Aag
        0
        14 July 2022 18: 02
        "... This is what we wish Zelensky...."
        So be it.
        But, perhaps, there is less benefit from this than sticking needles into a voodoo doll ... The puppeteer has his own interests.
      3. +1
        14 July 2022 22: 41
        Cool RED_ICE
    18. -2
      14 July 2022 15: 42
      Vucic is right. The world is heading into the apocalypse. And it's not just the war. You turn on the news and see clouds of locusts in the Kuban covering the sky, tornadoes in Irkutsk, massive outbreaks of diseases. And here we need to talk not only about a house in the village with a vegetable garden, but about changing our very life. The Lord gives trials for our admonition, sorrow with Him is the last means to bring a person to his senses. Even 10-15 years ago I read a lot of the prophecies of the fathers of the Russian Orthodox Church. Everything was written a long time ago. There will be a world war, disease, famine. In the Bible, this process has a very precise name - the Mystery of Lawlessness. Everything is called artificially to establish the power of a single ruler - the Antichrist. The devil began the process of reformatting a person in his own image and likeness - the third sex is neither a man nor a woman. They need wars to cause such a cataclysm so that no one can refuse the power of the "president of the world." Russia will be able to survive only through the revival of Orthodoxy.
      1. AAC
        +1
        14 July 2022 18: 14
        hand face. Before, there was no internet. so we learned about all the garbage from the newspapers. and in the newspapers they tried not to write any garbage. and now every gopher is a journalist
        1. 0
          14 July 2022 20: 14
          Nope. He simply broadcasts what the scripture says. Type 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. War, pestilence, famine and death. Well, I may be wrong in the sequence. According to the calendar, it fits. Yeah.
          Well, the faithful can pull any owl on a globe.
          We are waiting for antichrist, what is there. And reptilians.
          1. ada
            0
            15 July 2022 14: 23
            Quote: kytx
            /// We are waiting for antichrist cho already there. And reptilians.


            He? They are already among us! I have already seen on the site and the avatar is so characteristic, they do not hide. Began?
    19. +3
      14 July 2022 15: 47
      It is not known what the West is waiting for? It is possible to weaken Russia, and then start a war on the side of Ukraine, but in the meantime, cheap raw materials are being purchased in Russia for a future war and rare earth metals for the production of high-precision weapons. The West is already actually fighting, providing weapons, intelligence, instructors, mercenaries, that is, they are already trying what the Russian army is and what it is capable of now, how it reacts to a change in the situation, what commanders are capable of, how competently they manage troops, etc. , etc.
    20. -1
      14 July 2022 15: 59
      I hope there will be an ultimatum. I remember that Shoigu came to our city not so long ago. They said that the plant was being reformatted for the production of Sarmat. And that the first, rearmed unit will be in Uzhur. There are such plans. Already knowing Putin's methods, I will assume that the plant has long been reformatted. And some have been rearmed. I would like to hear that any help to the outskirts, other than humanitarian, will be regarded as a declaration of war. And there, who goes to hell, who to heaven. Because with the statement that we came to defend the Donbass, that we are not going to occupy the outskirts, something needs to be done. Like, we endured, were silent, did not answer, offered negotiations, but since they don’t hear us ... I hope that that part of the elite that replaced Yeltsin with Putin at one time understands the seriousness of the situation. And the danger is not external should scare. And a possible popular explosion, the charge in us is accumulating. And only we ourselves can destroy Russia. As in the Time of Troubles. Walked along the edge. Both Minutements and Tridents are not so scary.
    21. -1
      14 July 2022 16: 29
      Vucic outdid even the Old Man in maneuvering. Again, I bought not our MLRS, a cunning person ...
      1. AAC
        +1
        14 July 2022 18: 16
        we need ours now
    22. 0
      14 July 2022 17: 42
      Yes, most likely with success in the next couple of weeks we will talk about expanding the conflict.

      I believe that the Russian side has not yet prevented the delivery of weapons from the West to Ukraine, because in any case they are from Ukraine or not from Ukraine, but they will still shoot at Russia.

      And in the interests of Russia is not a sudden massive, but its gradual introduction into action. To facilitate the subsequent destruction of all this heavy equipment.
      And in order to be able to start the next round from more advantageous positions.
    23. +1
      14 July 2022 19: 18
      Well, Putin has long spoken about this in Munich .. Everything comes true along the way!

      Russia went its own way and we do not care about the United States and others with their "values" ..
      Now Russia is FREE as never before! Any laws can be adopted and the devil is not our brother .. Yes, it's difficult, but this one is worth it in the future ..

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