Military Review

When Russia starts to fight for real

365

Very often, from some patriotic bloggers and couch analysts, one can hear that “Russia has not yet begun to fight for real.” Like, we have not yet shown our true potential and have not used our capabilities to 100%. To what extent is this opinion true? Let's try to answer this question.


Military aviation is not used to its fullest?


There is an opinion that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation do not sufficiently use the military Aviation in the NWO in Ukraine. And that the same bridges can be bombed by strategic bombers, and not by Caliber missiles. It can be safely answered that this opinion has nothing to do with reality. There is no complete and total air superiority of Russia, both because of the insufficient number of attack aircraft and attack drones for such a long front (more than a thousand kilometers!) And because of the enemy’s air defense, which is “completely suppressed” only on TV.

The fact that the superiority of Russian aviation in the sky of Ukraine is very relative, back in April, Igor Strelkov, a retired FSB colonel, wrote.

“The superiority of the RF Armed Forces in aviation is very relative. Since the enemy has a well-equipped and numerous military air defense, which seriously limits the actions of tactical aviation, which is capable of supporting its troops on the battlefield.

In addition, do not forget that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a lot of Western-made portable anti-aircraft missile systems. Therefore, Russian aviation cannot just take and freely bomb the same bridge in Zaporozhye - all attacks on objects in the rear of Ukraine, if you, dear readers, follow the course of hostilities in Ukraine, are carried out mainly with the help of cruise missiles. Russian aviation does not go deep behind enemy lines, precisely because of the presence of a considerable amount of air defense in the Ukrainian military.

Russian artillery is not working at full strength?


Due to the constant shelling of Donetsk, many inhabitants are wondering why the artillery points of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not suppressed? Why is the enemy shelling the city with impunity? This means that our artillery is not working at full strength! Such questions and such conclusions are made by people who do not understand the real operational situation in Donbas.

To begin with, it is worth saying that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have an advantage in field and artillery reconnaissance, in particular, an advantage in drones, both reconnaissance and strike. It is for this reason that positional battles in the area of ​​​​the same Avdiivka near Donetsk go with the advantage of the enemy. Which with precise blows in the last week destroys the ammunition depots of the People's Militia.

In addition, Ukrainian artillerymen are well trained. During the existence of the “Minsk agreements”, they had the opportunity to exercise, shelling the Donbass with virtually impunity, while the People’s Militia of the LDNR was allowed to open fire only in special cases (for example, when trying to break through the enemy).

Counter-battery combat is not an easy task. This work should involve air reconnaissance (UAVs should patrol the air), and radio reconnaissance. However, UAVs, as you know, are critically lacking.

“The lack of “Orlans” is estimated by the gunners of the “allied forces” as something like “we have one of the 5 or even 10 necessary for permanent successful operations.” And what do you want after that? Now in the war zone it’s good if there is one working Orlan per artillery division of 152-mm caliber. It's very good where it is. In some artillery brigades of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, even this is not the case. And the requirements of the gunners, based on the tasks that they are given, is to constantly have an Orlan in the air for each battery, ”

- writes, for example, a fighter of the People's Militia of the LPR Andrey Morozov, "Murz".

At the moment, Russia is using the tactics of concentrating a huge number of MLRS in one of the directions (as it was near Severodonetsk and Lisichansk) in order to create a total advantage. It works, the goals are achieved, but this can only be done in one area, while the rest will be weakened. In view of the above, the opinion that the Russian artillery is not working at full strength seems untenable.

Attacks on decision-making centers?


Well, the question that many people like to ask so much is why there are no strikes on decision-making centers in Kyiv, strikes on bridges across the Dnieper, transport interchanges? I have already tried to answer this question in the article “Why, after four months of the NMD, the bridges across the Dnieper were not destroyed”, a brief conclusion - because there is no corresponding political decision.

Initially, the main goal of the SVO was to preserve Ukraine as a state by quickly changing power in Kyiv. There was an expectation that when Russian troops were near Kyiv, Zelensky would either flee or capitulate. But even later, when this plan collapsed, Moscow did not completely abandon the idea of ​​concluding a peace agreement with Ukraine, so there are no strikes on the decision-making centers in Kyiv. But Ukraine, in turn, having the American HIMARS MLRS in stock, began to apply them, which, in particular, writes the famous military commander Alexander Sladkov.

“Ukrainian rocket launchers and artillery have already struck several times at our decision-making centers. With result. The centers are small but important. I do not write here where, when, how much, and by whom. In order not to give out military secrets. Those who are in the subject will understand: if the reporter Sladkov and his colleagues know, then many others also know.”

Of course, if there is political will, they can strike at the command and control centers in Kyiv, but this will not affect the course of hostilities strategically. Attacks on bridges may have a limited effect on the course of hostilities, but it is impossible to destroy all bridges at once. Especially considering that they are covered by Ukrainian air defense. This will take quite a lot of time. But you still need to try, because at the moment the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not experiencing any problems with the supply, transportation of fuel and lubricants and shells. Western weapons transferred to Ukraine are quickly delivered to the front.

Conclusions


The conclusion from the above is quite obvious. Perhaps I will disappoint someone, but what you are now seeing on the Ukrainian fronts is the real level of capabilities of the RF Armed Forces as part of a special military operation. All types of weapons are used and used, most of the personnel army of the RF Armed Forces participates in hostilities.

Significantly strengthen the Russian army can only announced mobilization, but already in the Russian Federation. Moscow does not want to make this unpopular decision, this is the reason for the unsystematic and total mobilization in the LDNR. Of course, Russia does not need such mobilization as in the Donbass. We need partial mobilization (primarily of military reserves), mobilization of industry, economic and political mobilization. Mikhail Remizov, president of the Institute for National Strategy, wrote back in May about what mobilization should be like.

“As for military mobilization, its transition from a hidden to an open state is ripe. Without this, it is impossible to scale and systematically organize the volunteer movement; to attract the forces of business and civil society to various “rear” tasks in the frontline zone; return to the question of the use of "draft" units in the conflict zone. This will require a complex political conversation with the public and an acknowledgment of the seriousness of the situation. But avoiding such a conversation will cost more.”
Author:
Photos used:
RIA News"
365 comments
Ad

Subscribe to our Telegram channel, regularly additional information about the special operation in Ukraine, a large amount of information, videos, something that does not fall on the site: https://t.me/topwar_official

Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 July 2022 10: 15
    +36
    Basically, I agree with everything.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 15 July 2022 10: 46
      +6
      It is for this reason that positional battles in the area of ​​​​the same Avdiivka near Donetsk go with the advantage of the enemy.
      The author doesn't know much...
      “The first line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Avdiivka was hacked, the DPR units occupied the fortifications of the Ukrainian army. These are reinforced concrete bunkers with protection against cumulative projectiles and rooms for shelter from explosions, ”

      And he doesn't own it at all.
      The Armed Forces of Ukraine have an advantage in field and artillery reconnaissance, especially in drones, both reconnaissance and strike. .. ...Which, in the last week, has been destroying the ammunition depots of the People's Militia with precise blows.

      What does the already lost advantage in UAVs have to do with NATO satellite and electronic intelligence data?
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 15 July 2022 10: 50
        +14
        And the worst thing is that practically no one talks about this, the media remain silent, as if this is the normal order of things.

        The point, of course, is not that they consider this to be the normal order of things, but that they are performing an appropriate propaganda task. Should they stop doing this?
        1. dorz
          dorz 15 July 2022 12: 40
          +5
          Conclusions

          1. The best soldiers in the world and the worst generals (source not found).
          2. The war of the 21st century is a network-centric command and control system.
          3. The god of war of the 21st century is aviation, not artillery.
          1. S. Viktorovich
            S. Viktorovich 15 July 2022 14: 24
            +30
            There are questions about planning and management. It follows from the data presented that operations to gain air supremacy and suppress air defense, similar to the operations of the Red Army, are not carried out. After the delivery of air defense and aviation to NATO, it will be too late.
            1. alexey sidykin
              alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 10: 42
              -2
              Quote: S. Viktorovich
              There are questions about planning and management. It follows from the data presented that operations to gain air supremacy and suppress air defense, similar to the operations of the Red Army, are not carried out. After the delivery of air defense and aviation to NATO, it will be too late.

              Are you so sure of the reliability of the data provided by the author? He is not even aware of the breach of the first line of defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Avdiivka.
            2. azkolt
              azkolt 16 July 2022 16: 03
              -1
              Quote: S. Viktorovich
              There are questions about planning and management. It follows from the data presented that operations to gain air supremacy and suppress air defense, similar to the operations of the Red Army, are not carried out. After the delivery of air defense and aviation to NATO, it will be too late.

              Please tell us about the operations of the Red Army to gain air superiority and suppress enemy air defenses?
              1. S. Viktorovich
                S. Viktorovich 16 July 2022 16: 36
                +1
                Read military historians about the war in the Kuban, near Kursk and in Belarus.
                1. azkolt
                  azkolt 16 July 2022 19: 18
                  +2
                  Quote: S. Viktorovich
                  Read military historians about the war in the Kuban, near Kursk and in Belarus.

                  You just have no idea what my library of military literature is. There is also the "Battle for the Sky of the Kuban", but somehow I did not see there the definition of these undoubtedly strong battles as an operation. It was the usual air superiority that started immediately between us and the Germans. And to call the suppression of enemy air defense an operation smacks of stupidity, sorry!
          2. Old tanker
            Old tanker 15 July 2022 16: 48
            +11

            3. The god of war of the 21st century is aviation, not artillery.

            But we inflict the main defeat on the enemy with artillery. Like our enemy. He has practically no aviation at all.
            1. Floke
              Floke 15 July 2022 23: 09
              +1
              This probably means the total use of assault and fighter UAVs. When hundreds of operators with augmented reality helmets operate at a distance of thousands of kilometers via satellite communications. Everything is combined into one network model. Accurate strike aircraft are much more maneuverable than any artillery. The Ukrainian conflict is a transitional scenario.
              1. Old tanker
                Old tanker 16 July 2022 05: 12
                -6
                As the same SVO showed, drones did not turn out to be a panacea. Rather, they are consumables. Slow-moving and low-maneuverable, they are easily knocked down, both by air defense and electronic warfare. Well, strategic drones will also shoot down fighter aircraft.
                So artillery with precision-guided munitions is the main means of destruction on the battlefield of the 21st century. And the UAV is reconnaissance and fire adjustment.
                1. max702
                  max702 16 July 2022 10: 25
                  +10
                  Quote: Old Tanker
                  As the same SVO showed, drones did not turn out to be a panacea. Rather, they are consumables. Slow-moving and low-maneuverable, they are easily knocked down, both by air defense and electronic warfare. Well, strategic drones will also shoot down fighter aircraft.
                  So artillery with precision-guided munitions is the main means of destruction on the battlefield of the 21st century. And the UAV is reconnaissance and fire adjustment.

                  Bullshit that our generals also preach .. UAVs are good when you have an advantage in air defense aviation, electronic warfare, etc. it wouldn’t be, but our Defense Ministry fell in love with this issue, the presence of outdated copies of the Israeli UAV in the form of Orel-10 does not solve the problem because it is morally obsolete .. Now there are rumors about the purchase of suitable UAVs from Iran in commercial quantities and God forbid ..
                  1. Old tanker
                    Old tanker 16 July 2022 13: 51
                    -1
                    Brad you carry. Ukrov have rather weak air defense and practically no fighter aircraft. In this regard, they are like Bedouins in shales. Therefore, from our side, drones would be effective.
                    On our part, strong air defense, electronic warfare and fighter aircraft practically did not vilify the capabilities of attack drones. They are quite large and quiet. They are an easy target. Therefore, now the Armed Forces of Ukraine use small-sized devices for reconnaissance and fire adjustment. And we suffer the main losses from artillery.
                    In addition, due to the small mass of the combat load, attack drones are ineffective against concrete fortifications and in urban and industrial buildings.
                    In a war with a high-tech adversary, which is NATO, the future of unmanned aircraft at the tactical level is in small-sized reconnaissance and spotters, as well as swarms of loitering ammunition.
                    Attack drones are needed at the operational-strategic level to break through and suppress enemy air defenses. Like our "Hunter".
                    1. max702
                      max702 17 July 2022 09: 03
                      +7
                      Their weak air defense keeps our airborne forces at altitudes of 50-200 meters, as a result of which we fight with the tactics of the Second World War art, our everything, the number of aircraft is no more than in a special operation in Syria on an incomparable scale, as a result of lunar landscapes and losses in the first month of 1351 people, now they don’t publish losses, but the fact that civilian doctors are being pulled out all over the country hints at a lot .. About enemy drones, they don’t need to be used en masse and the losses from them are enough, although indeed they are basically light and ultralight quadrics of which they have more than ours ( the West did not stint) about electronic warfare, it’s better not to remember this, as it were, no less epic failure, both in the field of UAVs and fleet obser. Once again, I repeat, not UAVs are needed, but US! The weakness of the UAV’s armament just makes it possible to work with jewelry to destroy artillery, air defense launchers, MLRS, self-propelled guns, armored personnel carriers, trucks right up to the tank without causing collateral damage, but for those who are on the armored train it’s not clear how! True, for such tactics you need a lot of UAVs, no, not so, but A LOT !!!! Not a few hundred, but for such a database volume as in CBO, several THOUSANDS! And what does it have to do with all kinds, and these are quadrics in each platoon (and an anti-drone gun is also in each), and reconnaissance strikes like the same Orlan, UAV repeaters, kamikaze UAV arsenals, UAV target designators that can hang over the database for days and so on .. In fact, a new type of troops, but the generals fell in love with this war because they were preparing for the last one, although it would seem that even in Syria they raised the question of why to drive barmaley with expensive aircraft when there is a technical possibility to use UAVs .. But apparently in the army everything small is not taken seriously in any way .. what complex then..
                2. Alex 34091
                  Alex 34091 17 July 2022 17: 33
                  +3
                  [quote] [/ quote] in our case, if the enemy does not have an air defense system, precisely as a system, UAVs in the proper quantity are simply necessary. Even if you don't take percussion, expensive ones, but just reconnaissance ones. At a minimum, it is possible to arrange fire terror on enemy communications. The author correctly says that our artillery often works in areas without proper target designation. A UAV is a cheap program at least for a party that does not have a bunch of Avaxes and a huge satellite constellation. Otherwise, there is no need to talk about any accuracy of shooting without c / y. Who will lead? Uncle Pete?
                  1. pogis
                    pogis 23 July 2022 09: 48
                    0
                    Our artillery hits the "areas" as a result of the wear of the barrels.
                3. bulgaria_
                  bulgaria_ 19 July 2022 16: 10
                  +1
                  And what if there is a royak towards? If immediately tysyachi drones? and Together with anti-aircraft suppression missiles. And a bunch of MLRS missiles, etc. Air defense must be excellent, but not only. You need balance and coordination. And this is technology.
              2. alexey sidykin
                alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 10: 47
                0
                Yes, yes, yes ... what is good for chasing Bedouins across the desert does not work at all in the presence of highly developed air defense systems ...
          3. Volkof
            Volkof 15 July 2022 20: 27
            +15
            1. The best soldiers in the world and the worst generals (source not found).

            The Russian Armed Forces are fighting as best they can. The command of the Russian Armed Forces, primarily Gerasimov and his General Staff, do not have the slightest idea about modern warfare, and modern warfare. They rolled back to the level of the 2nd World War with the massive use of artillery, tanks and infantry for combat operations, which are accompanied by heavy losses .. Even the outdated doctrine of "Combined Arms Combat" from the times of the USSR is no longer achievable for stupid idiots in the leadership of the army, and this is in conditions when military operations are conducted by contractors! Gerasimov and his idiots do not even have the concept of waging a modern war ... What can we even talk about? Until these morons leave, nothing will happen! Mindless tyrants drive an army with advanced weapons into the Stone Age, and fighters into the ground ...
            1. Jager
              Jager 15 July 2022 21: 08
              -4
              It is not the armies that are fighting now, but first of all the politicians.
              1. AAK
                AAK 15 July 2022 23: 13
                +6
                Well, name, colleague, at least 10 "fighting Kremlin politicians", you can name more than one hundred of these among the dill political brood, alas, in our country ...
                1. Jager
                  Jager 23 July 2022 20: 00
                  0
                  The main "battles" are fought by politicians, the army is just a tool.
                  "War is the continuation of politics by other methods."
            2. tsvetahaki
              tsvetahaki 15 July 2022 21: 11
              +6
              ... have no idea about modern warfare

              For a modern war, in addition to the idea of ​​​​it, modern means are also needed. And in the right amount.
              For example, there should be a lot and do not feel sorry for SU-57s, which have a lower probability of being captured by anti-aircraft weapons (but nevertheless not zero), reduce losses in case of incomplete suppression of air defense, but nevertheless, they also go astray.
              Well, we are modestly silent about computers and the brains of drones.
            3. bayard
              bayard 16 July 2022 01: 16
              +4
              Quote: Volkof
              The Russian Armed Forces are fighting as best they can.

              So (as best he can) any army fights, for this is an axiom.
              And she fights well. For a grouping of 65 - 100 thousand (the rest of the LDNR corps), against an enemy outnumbered by 3 - 5 times.
              Quote: Volkof
              first of all, Gerasimov and his General Staff, have no idea about modern warfare

              Come on ?
              Are you, as I see it, a great strategist from the General Staff of the Milky Way galaxy? Can you accurately rate?
              Quote: Volkof
              They rolled back to the level of the 2nd World War with the massive use of artillery

              What's wrong with artillery?
              It's good for whoever has it.
              And there is enough ammo.
              Quote: Volkof
              tanks

              And how without them? How to advance without tanks? Maybe NATO hopes to do without them?
              Maybe the fascists of Kyiv are happy that they knocked out so many tanks?
              Not ? Not happy? Asking for more?
              And why do they need such backward weapons?
              Quote: Volkof
              and infantry for combat operations,

              Quote: Volkof
              massive

              Sirozh, we - the Allied Forces - have one and a half hundred thousand in the theater. This is 5 times less than the APU!
              And we're COMING.
              And you hand over cities and villages.
              Quote: Volkof
              accompanied by large losses.

              Sirozha and our losses counted?
              What about yours? Own?
              Did you count it?
              What about their ratio?
              Our losses are an order of magnitude lower than yours.
              Quote: Volkof
              Even the outdated doctrine of the "Combined Arms Battle" of the times of the USSR is no longer achievable for the dumb-headed idiots in the leadership of the army

              Himself not funny?
              Have you carried out a total mobilization with the hope of bombarding us with your cannon fodder? And How ? Helps?
              Today, the Allied Forces do not have the task of large-scale offensives, we simply hold positions on the captured bridgeheads and systematically liberate the DPR.
              MULTIPLE inferior number, forces.
              And we take cities.
              Quote: Volkof
              and this is in conditions when contract soldiers are fighting!

              Yes, since 2015 only contract soldiers have been fighting with us. And in the RF Armed Forces too. They fight well.
              Quote: Volkof
              Gerasimov and his half-wits do not even have the concept of waging a modern war ..

              You were told "We haven't started yet".
              Why
              The deployment and combat coordination of the proper outfit of forces is underway. In the meantime, a limited contingent of forces is muzzling you. Only two hundredths of yours have already lost 150-200 thousand + wounded, prisoners, deserters. In total, about 500 thousand losses per circle (taking into account that the slightly wounded have already returned to duty) ...
              And this is with the total support of the entire NATO intelligence community, the oversaturation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with anti-tank weapons, MANPADS, reconnaissance equipment, communications ... despite the fact that you have already dropped most of the Soviet weapons from the former "Varsovians" ... despite the fact that you got everything warehouses, bases and weapons of the THREE best Soviet military districts !!!
              And you are already almost everything about ... how.ali.
              Everything is so pro.kak.ali that hundreds of heavy NATO weapons are already coming to you ... But you are successfully pro.sera.et all this too.
              Under the leadership of NATO generals and staffs!
              And what, Sirozha, your "Poles" helped you?
              And the real war will begin soon.
              But you won't like her.
              None of you will like her.
              So get ready according to the precepts of V. Klitschko - to the ground.
              Sirozha.
              1. HefeDMB69
                HefeDMB69 16 July 2022 10: 43
                +3
                "What's wrong with artillery?
                It's good for whoever has it. And there is enough ammunition. "An interesting movie! Prommash in Saratov (fuses and shells) has been turned into a city market for 25 years. The bicycle factory in Penza (fuses and not only!) has long been bye-bye. This is what I, as a local, know. Burned RAV warehouses for all 30 years. Well? Where are those fazeoshniks who sharpened them for 30 years in three shifts? It's full of lies about it. Soon the shell shortage will announce the VPR and beg for help from the Ketays.
                1. bayard
                  bayard 16 July 2022 15: 53
                  +5
                  The Great and Mighty Soviet Union had the most powerful land army in the world, was able to fight at least with the rest of the world and had everything necessary for this. Stocks of BP in the USSR were for several world wars. Yes, some of them remained in the union republics (mainly in / in Ukraine), some burned and sold out ... But the Soviet Union was so great that the rest was enough for one and a half world wars.
                  We fight with them.
                  Quote: HefeДМБ69
                  Interesting movie! Prommash in Saratov (fuses and shells) has been turned into a city market for 25 years. A bicycle factory in Penza (fuses and not only!) has long been bye-bye. This is what I, as a local, know. RAV warehouses burned for 30 years. Well?

                  And there is . But I'm talking about strategic b / n reserves, which simply exist.
                  And modern b \ n, incl. high-precision ones are produced, but not on the same scale. Today, all these capacities have been transferred to a 3-shift mode and production is expanding.
                  Quote: HefeДМБ69
                  Nonsense, about full.

                  I can hear better from Donetsk.
                  Quote: HefeДМБ69
                  Soon, the shell hunger will announce the VPR and the Ketays will beg for help.

                  Why ask the Chinese? It will be necessary, we will ask the Koreans.
                  Northern.
                  They recognized our republics and in general the guys are resolute.
                  And they also love artillery.
            4. alexey sidykin
              alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 10: 51
              0
              Quote: Volkof
              Mindless tyrants drive an army with advanced weapons into the Stone Age, and fighters into the ground ...

              And you see the unrecognized world genius of strategists and tactics ... won many wars?
          4. tsvetahaki
            tsvetahaki 15 July 2022 21: 06
            +1
            Conclusions

            Rather, the conclusions - "... well, I couldn't" ...
          5. sleeve
            sleeve 17 July 2022 04: 25
            +3
            War of the 21st century - a network-centric control system? Where has it proven effective? In achieving goals directly? NATO maneuvers do not show spectacular implementations of the latest concepts. Hiding maybe? Much has been said about this network-centricity, but in fact, all its "difference" is real time for intelligence and minimization of communication network objects. CICS on the battlefield so far only speed up the processing and exchange of information. However, in real databases in Afghanistan and Iraq, just like in 1916, we see the concentration of weapons in the operational decision area. Of course, the means are different, the principles are the same. Point three is correct in the situation of the possibility of destroying enemy air defenses. If it is impossible to do this, point three is considered invalid) Artillery is still the God of War. I think we will soon see changes in NATO, which is sensitively trying to catch innovations.
          6. Ryusei
            Ryusei 17 July 2022 22: 26
            +1
            Obviously never been under artillery fire.
      2. ruha
        ruha 15 July 2022 10: 53
        -47
        The author doesn’t own anything at all, I’ll probably assume that he doesn’t own what is in his skull! GDP said we haven't started yet? So that's the way it is. He has complete information
        1. spirit
          spirit 15 July 2022 11: 05
          +44
          . He has complete information

          Are you talking about that omniscient GDP who, with the entire general headquarters and the FSB, expected that the entire Ukrov army would scatter after the first caliber? laughing I won’t be surprised that he still trusts Konashenkov’s reports)
          1. ruha
            ruha 15 July 2022 13: 13
            -15
            How many of you all-propellers. How do you manage to live to at least some age ..? Oh, I see. Shout everything is gone and run away?
            1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
              Uncle Vanya Susanin 15 July 2022 16: 42
              +2
              How many of you all-propellers.

              There were always plenty of them at VO, I remember how two or three years ago there was a natural "Yaroslavna's cry" in the comments that ours surrendered the Kuriles to the Japanese and everything was gone, now a new topic for zrada
            2. alexey sidykin
              alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 10: 53
              0
              Quote: ruha
              Well, okay. Shout everything is gone and run away?

              Quote: ruha
              Well, okay. Shout everything is gone and run away?

              How else would they survive? lol
          2. mikh-korsakov
            mikh-korsakov 15 July 2022 16: 43
            +11
            spirit. Let's be clear. From your text, I understood that the Russian Federation had already lost the war, did I understand correctly? Indeed, it follows from your text that in Russia the president, the FSB, and the General Staff are useless, however, the author of the article hints at this to us. Does the author write about all the sores with knowledge of the matter? Maybe he's right, maybe he's just speculating, I don't know. But at the end he gives the recipe for our victory - general mobilization?! It is interesting what the author will advise to do with a crowd of men, many of whom did not hold anything more military than the AK-74 (by the way, and a glass!) But they need to be fed, treated, supported. Modern warfare is not won by numbers, is it? How many fighters did Saddam have, and how many did the NATO coalition have. And the result? Therefore, I am skeptical about the article.
            1. mva
              mva 15 July 2022 16: 51
              +6
              Saddam did not fight with the Ukrainians, however. These who held only Kalash could well be used to protect the supply lines of advanced troops. The main problem now is the lack of infantry. Breaking through the defenses not in the Donbas to a great depth is still not a problem now. But what to do next if no one is left to guard the supply routes of the advanced groups? We have already gone through this near Kyiv and Chenigov, here are more deep breakthroughs and large pliers are not started, only nail clippers.
              1. mikh-korsakov
                mikh-korsakov 15 July 2022 18: 50
                +6
                Security of supply routes, what should it look like? As I have been shown many times, security of supply routes is achieved by patrolling supply routes by helicopters. If we mean the location in the villages of mini garrisons of mobilized military personnel, then I see this as the only benefit from strengthening Russian-Ukrainian friendship on the basis of the use of vodka together with the Selyuks. The experience of the Kherson region has shown that the main ambush comes from the terrorist acts of the Ukrainian DRG, and specialists from the competent authorities are needed to prevent them.
                1. The comment was deleted.
              2. The comment was deleted.
              3. max702
                max702 16 July 2022 10: 35
                0
                The coalition gouged Saddam primarily with aviation and missile strikes, only they hit not at "military" targets, but at everything that could weaken the state of Iraq, and they did it for two months before the infantryman's foot set foot on the soil of Iraq .. We were not allowed to fight like that, it’s not clear who, and this is the main issue of the SVO .. Mobilization will not give anything but losses, the main task of the SVO today is to knock out the air defense of Ukraine and this is the most important task, as soon as it is solved, everything else will go like clockwork, hanging at a height unattainable for MANPADS, various attack boards of the airborne forces finally using the miserable product of Hephaestus and using the endless trillions of accumulated iron reserves .. Why is this not being done? I don’t know, apparently the same reasons why they rushed at the beginning of the NWO in columns deep into the 404th ..
            2. Volkof
              Volkof 15 July 2022 20: 49
              -7
              From your text, I understood that the Russian Federation had already lost the war, did I understand correctly?

              The Russian army will win any war. But this will be the merit of the Russian soldier, and not the stupid Russian generals in Moscow ... But at what cost? Like in the Great Patriotic War? ...
              It is necessary to send Gerasimov to command the direction to the Northern Military District, and all the heads of the General Staff departments to be commanders of the BTG! Let them show you how to fight, everyone is there with experience in military operations, after serving in combat units in senior command positions ... To the front ..
              As Stalin did! And let them buy toy UAVs for their money ...
              1. mikh-korsakov
                mikh-korsakov 15 July 2022 21: 49
                0
                Sergey. I understood correctly. That is, a smart soldier, capable of winning any war, and the generals are stupid. Allow me to be curious, and from what specific rank of a soldier comes stupidity. Let's say a lieutenant is still smart, or already stupid, and a comrade major, not to mention a colonel. Guessed, in your opinion, the stupidity virus penetrates the former smart colonel with a general's star? Interesting girls dance. I heard about the general's illness, but this is something new, although who knows.
                1. Volkof
                  Volkof 16 July 2022 00: 59
                  -6
                  Sergey. I understood correctly. That is, a smart soldier, capable of winning any war, and the generals are stupid.

                  Make a fool pray, he will hurt his forehead .. You didn’t understand it, everything is clear with you .. Read all the letters again, and then understand if you can ... Logic is not yours. Compose nonsense after reading a text that has nothing to do with it, and then develop it and draw conclusions, and blame the author of what was written ... This must be able to ... Sorry, are you an idiot?
                  1. mikh-korsakov
                    mikh-korsakov 16 July 2022 05: 01
                    0
                    Looks like I hit the target. It's not me and.diot, it got through people like you - Mr. Sofa. Nice thing to whine. However, you yourself understood "to compose nonsense ..." - this is about you. Howling at the moon is a liberal's favorite pastime. Yes, and to hell with you, let them whimper. But history knows an example when the fuss of people like you led to the collapse of the country. After Russia was defeated on the German front in 1915, the victorious mood among the liberals was replaced by vicious attacks against the tsar's family, and the General Staff got it. There were many who wanted to, remember if you can - the German queen, the famous spies in the General Staff "this is worse than a crime ..." And after all, they achieved their goal, but there was too much. Lenin took advantage of your whining - and where were the liberals? Are you Purishkevich? What is strange - the Russian Federation is not retreating yet - are you in advance?
                  2. AUL
                    AUL 16 July 2022 08: 38
                    -1
                    Quote: Volkof
                    Make a fool pray, he will hurt his forehead ..

                    Sergey, I essentially agree with you, but I gave you a minus. If you slide down to primitive insults, then you are worthless as an opponent. Keep yourself within limits!
                  3. alexey sidykin
                    alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 10: 56
                    0
                    Quote: Volkof
                    Logic is not yours.

                    You might think you have... wassat lol
              2. AAK
                AAK 15 July 2022 23: 23
                +6
                At the expense of the UAV, it’s even the Supreme of his neighbors, and first of all the distant ones, “Pinocchio” strains, and as for the “heroic marshals” from the “Arbat Military District”, the absolute majority cannot even be trusted with a platoon, for example - the rank of lieutenant general corresponds to at least to the corps commander, deputy commander or army commander, deputy. the commander, and in some cases the commander of the district, it was the same in the Great Patriotic War and later in the USSR, and now answer - which corps, army or district can be entrusted to the "talking head" of the RF Ministry of Defense in the rank of lieutenant general?
                1. alexey sidykin
                  alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 10: 58
                  -5
                  O! Another unrecognized military genius, the consummate master of strategy and tactics... how many wars has he won?
                  1. Alex 34091
                    Alex 34091 17 July 2022 17: 49
                    +2
                    [quote][/quote] Do you think we're doing well? I see that not everyone is far from it, it is clear that we are advancing, the price of the issue is not entirely satisfactory, here many said a couple of years ago that they say that UAVs are vulnerable, they are not needed, and now we are raking out even from Iran, it turns out, they are very needed, just yesterday.
            3. AAK
              AAK 15 July 2022 23: 17
              +5
              "foreign military review" No. 1 for 1991, article, EMNIP, "Operation Desert Shield", everything is written there about the number and composition of coalition forces, a very high-quality article
          3. ZAV69
            ZAV69 15 July 2022 20: 46
            -4
            Quote: spirit
            Are you talking about that omniscient GDP who, with the entire general headquarters and the FSB, expected that the entire Ukrov army would scatter after the first caliber? I won’t be surprised that he still trusts Konashenkov’s reports)

            Unlike the local talkers, he has all the information and knows what to do.
            1. Orik
              Orik 15 July 2022 21: 09
              +9
              Unlike the local talkers, he has all the information and knows what to do.

              Funny, funny, we listened to this fairy tale for two decades, and now the moment of truth came on February 24, 2022, when all reasonable people saw what even the holy of holies had brought Vova to - intelligence, once a great country.
              And it’s impossible to talk it over with all the desire, a fantastic promise.))))
              1. ZAV69
                ZAV69 15 July 2022 22: 18
                -7
                Quote: Orik
                Funny, funny, we listened to this fairy tale for two decades, and now the moment of truth came on February 24, 2022, when all reasonable people saw what even the holy of holies had brought Vova to - intelligence, once a great country.
                And it’s impossible to talk it over with all the desire, a fantastic promise.))))

                Yes, you can have fun and count anything you like, but you certainly do not own all the information.
                A few years ago, half of the globe was already laughing about Putin’s cartoons, only these cartoons are already flying to the target and regularly smashing the target into small chips, Vova also warned some gentlemen that they would be left without pants, and so it happened, the London wanderers have nothing to hire a cleaner. And the fact that the country 404 has not yet been smashed to smithereens and in half, then there are reasons for this, you won’t understand them
                1. Essex62
                  Essex62 16 July 2022 01: 25
                  0
                  [quote=ZAV69]
                  ZAV69 (Zhukov A.V.)
                  Yesterday, 22: 18
                  [/ Quote]
                  A few years ago, half of the globe was already laughing about Putin’s cartoons, only these cartoons are already flying to the target and regularly smashing the target into small chips, Vova also warned some gentlemen that they would be left without pants, and so it happened, the London wanderers have nothing to hire a cleaner. And the fact that the country 404 has not yet been smashed to smithereens and in half, then there are reasons for this, you won’t understand them [/ quote]


                  The fact that it is in smithereens, something smashes there, is not what the cartoons showed. This is not the wunderwafer capable of scaring the West and bending it, as it was positioned. They weren’t scared, you see. Well, with the gentlemen, without pants, it’s generally simple. they enter, and have a sweet life only there, in the west. Here the clearing is occupied by wrestlers, under which the guys did not want to lie down, hoping that it would work out. The impudent Saxons would not touch them. They took a risk, it didn't work out.
                2. Orik
                  Orik 16 July 2022 06: 52
                  +5
                  Believe me, soon everyone will see the real results of Putin's rule, it will reach the most stupid ones, and they will not be comforting. Although 20 percent will not work even in this case.))
                  1. alexey sidykin
                    alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 11: 02
                    -1
                    Yes, you have been singing the same songs since 99... so I'm still waiting for what Putin will bring the country to... and what I see is those who prophesied the death of Russia, and not us, are bending in writhing.
            2. ruha
              ruha 16 July 2022 14: 28
              -2
              You can't prove anything to these bastards. It's a pity that everyone can come here. The main trouble of the Internet is that it makes it possible to communicate with each other to everyone, regardless of age or mental capabilities!
            3. eskulap
              eskulap 17 July 2022 05: 16
              +1
              Knows, but does not do, but only promises everything - HPP
          4. The comment was deleted.
          5. Floke
            Floke 15 July 2022 23: 17
            -5
            It worked out with Crimea and Syria. To know the measure you need to exceed it
        2. Eug
          Eug 15 July 2022 11: 09
          +36
          He owns the information that is reported to him by people who are interested in making everything look successful in the reports, otherwise the reporters will have to answer unpleasant questions... Hasn't the story of the failed capitulation of Ukraine taught us anything?
          1. Romario_Argo
            Romario_Argo 15 July 2022 11: 30
            -8
            if you destroy 1000 Natsiks a day remotely and further,
            even if a week minus 5000
            The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation can digest the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this way until only the generals remain
          2. trenkkvaz
            trenkkvaz 16 July 2022 01: 41
            -5
            You have a primitive understanding of how the state apparatus functions. Ever since ancient times, the rulers had several independent channels for obtaining information about the situation on the ground. Outright lies of subordinates are very quickly revealed.
            1. Eug
              Eug 16 July 2022 08: 26
              +5
              Quote: trenkkvaz
              You have a primitive understanding of how the state apparatus functions. Ever since ancient times, the rulers had several independent channels for obtaining information about the situation on the ground. Outright lies of subordinates are very quickly revealed.

              And how did it work in the situation with Ukraine?
              1. trenkkvaz
                trenkkvaz 16 July 2022 12: 12
                -3
                Well, it also works like you don’t solve your problems in your life for objective reasons. And others think that you don’t know about your problems and start giving you advice on how to solve them.
                I look at the forum full of people who really think that many of the problems in this war can be solved with a snap of a finger, but the leadership either does not know about these problems or does not want to snap their fingers.
                1. Eug
                  Eug 16 July 2022 14: 46
                  +5
                  There are people on this forum - I don't know how many - who see the problems from the territory where this war is going on .. and believe that this vision is seriously different from the picture in the media. And how to decide is not my business, but how to evaluate the decision (or postponing the decision) is already mine.
                  1. trenkkvaz
                    trenkkvaz 17 July 2022 02: 09
                    -2
                    And what about the media? The conversation was about the information for the leadership. Or do you think that Putin gets the information from the TV set?
                    The media is for the people. Everything is always embellished in them in all countries of the world. And information about the course of the war will always be censored by default. This is a normal practice. Imagine if the Information Bureau told the truth during the Second World War. population in the rear.
        3. Cowbra
          Cowbra 15 July 2022 11: 19
          +11
          Quote: ruha
          The author doesn't own anything.

          For example, he laughed at the idiocy about MANPADS guarding bridges ... Does the author know what is needed to capture the target of MANPADS? Visual contact! At night, the author can shove MANPADS to where they got their cover from (the phrase is not mine, but a professional flyer - fighterbomber). And from strategists with Hephaestus you can’t get enough of MANPADS at all.
          It's just a trifle. One of. For example, near Avdiivka, in principle, there is no medium / long-range air defense - they will be ground with artillery, because the dill was pulled away from the front, and you can work there just from the air. But then again. strategists and rangers do NOT work there.
          Well, you can add a damn
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 15 July 2022 11: 25
            +3
            Quote: Cowbra
            fighter-bomber

            Exactly, in the Telega there are enough channels run by knowledgeable people, so not everything is as scary as the author writes and possibly thinks.
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 15 July 2022 11: 45
            +9
            Quote: Cowbra
            And from the strategists with Hephaestus you can’t get enough of MANPADS at all.

            So a strategist with "Hephaestus" is useless against the bridge - even with him, the spread of "cast iron" is too large to destroy the bridge supports. There KAB-1500 is needed.
            1. The comment was deleted.
            2. KVIRTU
              KVIRTU 17 July 2022 22: 00
              0
              They are constantly exaggerating the topic of bridges across the Dnieper, saying that a political solution is needed.
              What does the policy have to do with it, 5 main crossings - dams, undermining the unlaunched - colossal victims, comparable to the use of tactical nuclear weapons.
              Destroying conventional bridges will not solve the problem.
          3. DenVB
            DenVB 15 July 2022 14: 37
            +4
            Quote: Cowbra
            At night, the author can shove MANPADS to where they got their cover from (the phrase is not mine, but a professional flyer - fighterbomber).

            If we really have such professional flyers, our business is bad.
            Thermal imaging sight "Mowgli-2M" is designed to detect air targets at night and provide the ability to fire at them with portable anti-aircraft missile systems 9K38 "Igla" and 9K338 "Igla-S"
            1. Old tanker
              Old tanker 15 July 2022 16: 57
              +1
              Thermal imaging sight "Mowgli-2M" is designed to detect air targets at night and provide the ability to fire at them with portable anti-aircraft missile systems 9K38 "Igla" and 9K338 "Igla-S"

              And how many of these "Mowglis" do we have, let alone Ukrainians?
              Target designation when firing at an air target at night can be obtained by the commander of a MANPADS squad on his tablet from the means of a senior commander.
              During the day, too.
              1. DenVB
                DenVB 15 July 2022 17: 10
                -2
                Quote: Old Tankman
                And how many of these "Mowglis" do we have, let alone Ukrainians?

                Why do Ukrainians need them? Their "Needles" have long ended, most likely.
                1. Old tanker
                  Old tanker 15 July 2022 17: 12
                  +3
                  You ask the author of the comment.
                  1. DenVB
                    DenVB 15 July 2022 17: 16
                    0
                    Quote: Old Tanker
                    You ask the author of the comment.

                    I'm not with you, I'm talking to him.
            2. sifgame
              sifgame 15 July 2022 21: 58
              -2
              with MANPADS you still can’t get bombers
      3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 July 2022 12: 22
        +30
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        The author doesn't know much...

        In some moments - yes, but in the main conclusions
        Perhaps I will disappoint someone, but what you are now seeing on the Ukrainian fronts is the real level of capabilities of the RF Armed Forces as part of a special military operation. All types of weapons are used and used, most of the personnel army of the RF Armed Forces participates in hostilities.

        He's right
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 15 July 2022 17: 30
          -3
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          All types of weapons are used and used
          all kinds and all forces are very different things. In aviation, for example, the Su-25 is now having the main impact, and they are far from the basis of the Air Force.
          The number of personnel in the RF Armed Forces is estimated at a million people, and a maximum of 300 are involved in the operation, taking into account the National Guard.
          Well, a worthless analyst from the author.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 July 2022 17: 44
            +15
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            The number of personnel in the RF Armed Forces is estimated at a million people, and a maximum of 300 are involved in the operation, taking into account the National Guard.

            Yes. But nothing that in the composition of this million in the ground forces - only 280 thousand people + Airborne Forces + Marines \u350d 70 thousand at most? All over Russia? Let me remind you that during the Great Patriotic War, about XNUMX% of the Red Army fought against the Germans
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Well, a worthless analyst from the author.

            No. Not from the author :)
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U 15 July 2022 18: 20
              -5
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              Yes. But nothing that in the composition of this million in the ground forces - only 280 thousand people + Airborne Forces + Marines \u350d XNUMX thousand at most? All over Russia?
              Nothing, it’s even normal, if the total number is considered either at 800 tons, or at 1000 tons, or even at 1900 tons of people, then you also know 280 with the SV, a non-specific figure.

              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              and a maximum of 300 participate in the operation, taking into account the National Guard.
              I wrote 300 tons? So they estimate the number of people from 125 to 175 tons. I don’t know if VKS rear services are included here. But I know that a plane needs a lot more technicians than pilots.
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              No. Not from the author :)
              It's from the author.
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 July 2022 20: 32
                +6
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Nothing, it’s even normal if the total number is considered to be either 800 tons, or 1000 tons, or even 1900 tons of people

                Why guess? On November 17, 2017, Russian President V.V. Putin signed Decree No. 555 “On Establishing the Staff Number of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation”, which sets the number of Russian Armed Forces at 1 people, including 902 military personnel. The decree came into force on January 758, 1.
                However, it cannot be assumed that there are 1 million servicemen in the army, because it is still understaffed to a full staff. Hence the estimates of 800-900 thousand, and 900 thousand is completely believable.
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                then with SV, you also know whether 280 is a non-specific figure.

                Why? :))) If we assume that the numbers usually given are not regular, but the actual number, then we have:
                Aerospace Forces - 165 thousand, Navy - 150 thousand, Strategic Missile Forces - 60 thousand, total - 375 thousand + 280 thousand dry tufts + 45 thousand Airborne Forces \u700d 280 thousand. And all sorts of railway troops, military police, etc. and so on .... MTR, by the way, I missed it. In general, XNUMX thousand for land travelers looks like a figure close to reality
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                So they estimate the number of people from 125 to 175 tons.

                only active bayonets, and - landmen
                1. bayard
                  bayard 16 July 2022 02: 47
                  +2
                  Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                  Hence the estimates of 800-900 thousand, and 900 thousand is quite believable.

                  Andrey, such an assessment is correct for the very beginning of the NWO, when contract soldiers of the peacetime army went into action. And at that time, indeed, the SV - 280 thousand, the Airborne Forces - 50 thousand, the PM of the Navy - 20 thousand. In total in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - 350 thousand people.
                  For the SVO, a combined group of about 100 thousand was allocated + hastily mobilized corps of the republics - about 50 - 60 thousand more.
                  It was with these forces that they fought in the first phase.
                  But with the beginning of the second phase, part of the RF Armed Forces was withdrawn from the theater of operations, 65-100 thousand remained in the theater of operations (all!) So we are fighting with them, although over time the grouping was somewhat strengthened. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation fight on rotation, the corps of the republics change less frequently.
                  But.
                  Immediately, as it became clear that the coup did not happen, the so-called. "hidden mobilization" - the military registration and enlistment offices began to selectively pull reservists for a contract to build up the SV in the new state. We went by increasing the composition of units - the fourth squad in a platoon, the fourth platoon in a company, the fourth company in a battalion. So, without increasing the number of regiments, the number of l / s has been approximately doubled. New units and formations are also being formed, but plans for this were even earlier - the command staff was prepared for them ahead of time. In addition, the formation of battalions of their volunteers at the territorial level is actively underway - under a contract, with a good social package. As a result, the total strength of the RF Armed Forces should increase by approximately 3 times. And that will be enough. Without official mobilization - through a contract.
                  But such a deployment of fresh forces takes time - 4-5 months. And this preparatory period of the database is being carried out by a limited detachment of forces. They are being conducted successfully and productively - the enemy, on average, loses 1000 people per day. (plus or minus of course), its infrastructure is being destroyed (not only military, but also of military importance - transport, production, repair, oil refineries, etc.). As a result, by the time the deployed fresh forces are brought into action, the enemy will be exhausted and bloodless.
                  And now we, like those "Kibalchish", are holding the front, advancing, taking cities and waiting for the "distant Red Army".
                  And we'll be waiting soon.
                  Otherwise, it was impossible - without a deployment period.
                  Therefore, the phrase sounded, they say, "We have not started yet." This jarred many, but in fact the reality is reflected correctly - the main forces have not yet been brought into battle. And when they are introduced, everything will go completely differently.
                  Maybe international brigades will appear - there were many who wanted to, but how can they be allowed into battle without preparation and combat coordination? They don't even understand Russian. request
                  So we can expect qualitative changes soon.
                  And the author caused panic, mixed the sinful with the righteous ... I hope with the best of intentions.
                  Why did they screw up in the first phase?
                  Obviously, no one in the Kremlin wanted a full-fledged conflict, and when it became clear that it was no longer possible not to intervene (chemical laboratories, a nuclear program, a threat to "return nuclear status", a "dirty bomb" and firm plans for a full-scale attack on the Donbass with cannibalistic goals .. ... it was decided to use "our people" ... who were neutralized ahead of time by the intelligence of England and the United States ... And as a result, the RF Armed Forces flew into a trap with acceleration.
                  But it turned out like in that joke:
                  - Kume, I caught a bear!
                  - So bring him here.
                  - It doesn't work like that!
                  - So drop it and go yourself.
                  - It won't let you!
                  A bear is such a beast that it is not enough to "catch" him.
                  Especially when the Wolves came along with him.
                  Because "Akhmat" is real - Strength.
                  And Ramzan - Well done.
                  And the missiles will never run out.
                  For in the RF Armed Forces there are 14 missile brigades on the Iskander-M OTRK.
                  And it’s not possible for us to build ships ... But the “Caliber” was built for them fellow . For Russia is the birthplace of missiles. Good and different.
                  And another 10 Tochka-U brigade sets are in storage, the latter were removed from service only last year. And to them about 10 missiles.
                  So there is something to fight - the Soviet Motherland rescues us from oblivion.
                  And in the Augean stables, PCB begins ... Hercules is not on them with his methods ... And the People are still waiting for the "37th year", because without him there is no way, without him the 45th would definitely not have happened.
                  hi
                  1. Stena
                    Stena 16 July 2022 10: 33
                    -3
                    Hello Bayard!
                    Here are some inaccuracies that require separate reflection:
                    1.
                    Quote: bayard
                    Immediately, as it became clear that the coup did not happen, the so-called. "hidden mobilization" - the military registration and enlistment offices began to selectively pull reservists for a contract to build up the SV in the new state. We went by increasing the composition of units - the fourth squad in a platoon, the fourth platoon in a company, the fourth company in a battalion.

                    But at the same time, we know exactly where to hit with ship and aircraft missiles. Therefore, the question - about "the hope of our leadership for a rebellion" - will be left to the conscience of the one who came up with this (I first heard from Y. Podolyaki).
                    2.
                    Quote: bayard
                    Why did they screw up in the first phase?
                    Obviously, no one in the Kremlin wanted a full-fledged conflict, and when it became clear that it was no longer possible not to intervene (chemical laboratories, a nuclear program, a threat to "return nuclear status", a "dirty bomb" and firm plans for a full-scale attack on the Donbass with cannibalistic goals .. ... it was decided to use "our people" ... who were neutralized ahead of time by the intelligence of England and the United States ... And as a result, the RF Armed Forces flew into a trap with acceleration.

                    Is there reliable data that would allow us to compare the initial plans of the General Staff of the Russian Federation with the final situation at the end of the first phase and draw reasonable conclusions? While it turns out, we draw conclusions on the basis of part of the information, without understanding the goals, objectives and expected deadlines for the implementation of the strategic plan of the General Staff of the Russian Federation.
                    3.
                    Quote: bayard
                    This jarred many, but in fact the reality is reflected correctly - the main forces have not yet been brought into battle. And when they are introduced, everything will go completely differently.

                    A counter question - and with whom is the Russian Federation (hereinafter - we) really fighting on the territory temporarily occupied by Ukrainians? What is the expected military-industrial potential of the parties?
                    4. About the heroism of our soldiers, skill and experience (the son of difficult mistakes) - I agree with the position you have given.
                    Quote: bayard
                    And the People are still waiting for the "37th year", because without it there is no way, without it the 45th would definitely not have happened.

                    Already. But everything is quieter, calmer and without such victims. And the "distant Red Army" is still being prepared, including by identifying and eliminating internal enemies and building up the necessary military-industrial potential. But she has to fight with another enemy - the main one - on which she sharpened (in the form of slaves of the "enlightened West" - Poles, Moldovans, Romanians, possibly Azerbaijanis, Turks, etc.). And if an order is received, then maybe we will see the "strait named after I.V. Stalin" and "Atlantis from the islands of lime lovers"?
                    Then everything will go very fast.
                    5. And one more thing - so far our main front is economics and finance - and the construction of a closed self-sufficient economic system to ensure independence from "market accidents". The first exchange of blows - we had. Further - in the best traditions of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - "Flexible Way".
                    We all have patience, peace and God's help! hi
                    1. bayard
                      bayard 16 July 2022 15: 24
                      +3
                      Quote: Stena
                      . Therefore, the question - about "the hope of our leadership for a rebellion" - will be left to the conscience of the one who came up with this (I first heard from Y. Podolyaki).

                      I heard about it from a more reliable source and a few days before the NWO. But I did not share those illusions.
                      But there was another reason for just such a direction of the first strikes, the main of which was an attack on Kyiv with a landing on Gostomel - something that was in the hangars of Gostomel. Officially, they won’t tell us about this for sure, but they organized a leak of information through “trusted bloggers” (although they are not bloggers) . I'm talking about an insider from Khazin and Kazakov (former adviser to A. Zakharchenko, now a deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation). For me, such a plot is not surprising, the Anglo-Saxons had a similar scenario in the summer of 2014 (two nuclear warheads brought in / on, which were to explode in the combat formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, passing it off as a Russian nuclear strike).
                      Quote: Stena
                      But there is reliable data that would allow us to compare the initial plans of the General Staff of the Russian Federation with the final situation at the end of the first phase and make

                      What an interesting phrase...
                      There are reliable facts - a group of 30-40 thousand people was started near Kyiv. , against a multi-million city with developed suburbs and a garrison of 100. Of course, there could be no talk of any assault or blockade - this is an axiom.
                      Then what was it?
                      Stupidity?
                      Or a brilliantly executed operation to disrupt the plans of the Anglo-Saxons and the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the beginning of March?
                      Here it is already necessary to look at the result (of the first stage).
                      Plan of attack on Donbass thwarted?
                      Of course.
                      Captured something "very secret" in the hangar of Gostomel?
                      Yes.
                      Were the Armed Forces of Ukraine disoriented, forced to respond to the offensive from all sides?
                      Yes .
                      Did you manage to cause critical damage to the military infrastructure in the first phase and knock out aviation, air defense, block ports, destroy / capture strategic warehouses?
                      Partly. And if NATO had not provided such massive support, had not organized such a massive supply of weapons, ammunition, equipment, fuel and lubricants, etc., etc., then the Armed Forces of Ukraine would simply not exist today. At least as an organized and capable force.
                      And with all this, all this was carried out by a very limited outfit of forces.
                      As the saying goes, "The ambush regiment is still in ambush, and this is the Advanced Regiment."
                      Quote: Stena
                      drawing conclusions on the basis of a piece of information,

                      The fog of war has not been canceled, it is the law of life on this planet.
                      Quote: Stena
                      A counter question - and with whom is the Russian Federation (hereinafter - we) really fighting on the territory temporarily occupied by Ukrainians?

                      This is the territory of Southern Russia, currently occupied by NATO. This was also announced at the State Council before the start of the NWO.
                      We are at war with them.
                      And "Ukrainians", this is a political simulacrum, invented by the Austrian General Staff in the second half of the 19th century.
                      Quote: Stena
                      Quote: bayard
                      And the People are still waiting for the "37th year", because without it there is no way, without it the 45th would definitely not have happened.

                      Already. But everything is quieter, calmer and without such victims.

                      My optimism on this score is still very cautious, and it is too early to draw conclusions.
                      Quote: Stena
                      And if an order is received, then maybe we will see the "strait named after I.V. Stalin" and "Atlantis from the islands of lime lovers"?

                      This is possible and very likely, but the enemy still has a chance to avoid this. You just need to fulfill the conditions of the ultimatum presented by Russia to the West at the end of last year.
                      Quote: Stena
                      . Further - in the best traditions of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - "Flexible Way".

                      The main thing in this path is to come to the right goal, and not just move ... I also once practiced Ju-Do.
                      Quote: Stena
                      All of us patience, calmness

                      And internal mobilization.
                      hi
                      1. Stena
                        Stena 16 July 2022 15: 59
                        0
                        It seems to me that the main question is:
                        Quote: Stena
                        A counter question - and with whom is the Russian Federation (hereinafter - we) really fighting on the territory temporarily occupied by Ukrainians? What is the expected military-industrial potential of the parties?

                        Quote: bayard
                        This is the territory of Southern Russia, currently occupied by NATO. This was also announced at the State Council before the start of the NWO.
                        We are at war with them.

                        That's it. And about the first stage - you wrote reasonably (except for the final conclusion "about failure" - of course - only my opinion).
                        But we already fought with something similar - during the First Patriotic War. And then the solution was found - not trivial - but the right one.
                        Quote: bayard
                        The main thing in this path is to come to the right goal, and not just move ...

                        The sun illuminates Russian Kherson and Mariupol,
                        Happiness - to see the revival of the Empire! (hoku)
                        hi
                      2. bayard
                        bayard 16 July 2022 16: 37
                        +1
                        Quote: Stena
                        (except for the final conclusion "about failure" - of course - only my opinion

                        When a big problem is solved, the task is set in a complex way.
                        1) Disruption of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass.
                        Performed .
                        2) Capturing "something interesting" in the Gostomel hangar.
                        Performed .
                        3) Creation of external conditions for a military coup in\in b\Ukraine.
                        Conditions are created , the coup did not happen . Information about the shooting in the building of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the execution of all the generals at the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Mariupol by the militants of Azov and NATO special forces was then given live by Shariy, and he is an informed person. It was to these generals that the Supreme High Command (aka GDP) addressed ... but it didn’t grow together.
                        Quote: Stena
                        The sun illuminates Russian Kherson and Mariupol,
                        Happiness - to see the revival of the Empire! (hoku)

                        There are many more cities in Southern Russia.
                        There is enough sun for everyone.
                        (hoku alaverdi).
                        hi
          2. huntsman650
            huntsman650 16 July 2022 10: 48
            +1
            Mullien, this is from the Navy!
          3. Alex 34091
            Alex 34091 17 July 2022 17: 55
            +1
            [quote] [/ quote] so that's just a million, and active bayonets, those who are fighting, divide by 3.
        2. Old tanker
          Old tanker 15 July 2022 17: 39
          +2
          He's right


          All types of weapons are used and used ...
          I agree.
          But the whole question is how?
          I would say many species are quite limited.
      4. Old tanker
        Old tanker 15 July 2022 16: 44
        +3
        The author, in general, apparently, is far from military science, the procedure for the use of types and types of troops, not to mention the realities of hostilities in the NWO.
        Purely in my opinion, we really do not fight in full, only because of the fear of the political leadership of higher losses.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 15 July 2022 17: 30
          +10
          we really do not fight in full, only because of
          the fact that we still do not know the true goals of the Special Operation.
          1. Old tanker
            Old tanker 15 July 2022 17: 33
            +2
            Absolutely agree with you.
          2. antivirus
            antivirus 15 July 2022 20: 35
            -5
            As a civilian: half-heartedly, mines of losses in the east of the outskirts and ours.
            And to save the "assets", their IVS worked even before Brezhnev, they were rebuilt 2 times.
            Not amskaya method-everything is a waste.
            Polit hands are afraid of the "world community".
            An example is a winery, we make excuses for something, but it’s rude to say
            like "we can do this, we want to and we will break the resistance by increasing the power of blows and only we can determine when to give up: as long as someone and something whole is there or everything is in ruins." Run around the world and don't get caught.
            So they thought, 7 million in the EU left in March
      5. Eroma
        Eroma 15 July 2022 20: 26
        -3
        I agree with the comments! hi
        The fact that a DPR fighter complains about problems with counter-battery fire without an UAV is understandable, in the DPR MILITIA it is possible that they don’t know how! But in the ARMY of the Russian Federation, I think, since the time of the Second World War, counter-battery combat can be carried out at the expense of acoustic systems (near Leningrad in 1941, sound reconnaissance units were deployed, the instruments of which made it possible to detect the position of firing guns with good accuracy.), in the Russian army there is an artillery radar intelligence (according to Ukrainian counter-battery radar), well, UAVs can also be involved in this work soldier
        All ears have already buzzed about air defense, our aviation makes 200-300 sorties a day (as they say on the Internet), the enemy of our aviation is afraid and constantly cries that the airborne forces are mixing them with the ground, and everyone is worried about Ukrainian air defense No.
      6. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 10: 40
        -2
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        And he doesn't own it at all.

        Such an impression that the author did not look at the summary of hostilities for at least half a month, but drew all the information exclusively from Girkin's lamentations.
    2. horror
      horror 15 July 2022 12: 13
      -4
      I read the comments and see that many have pessimistic moods, people who know the real situation are sitting in the general headquarters and their adjustments are being made.
      1. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 11: 12
        -2
        Quote: horror
        I read the comments and see that many have pessimistic moods, people who know the real situation are sitting in the general headquarters and their adjustments are being made.

        They do not appear ... these moans have always been here for any reason, just to moan.
    3. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 15 July 2022 12: 35
      +12
      Do you think the author has complete information? And where does he write from? From the front? I don't apply either. But I do not agree with the opinion of the author. There is still air defense in Ukraine. Kyiv., Odessa, Nikolaev, etc. But dominance in the air and in artillery is ours. The question is in the tactics of application. And it's not for me to judge
      1. ruha
        ruha 15 July 2022 13: 07
        -1
        The author has a slightly softer sofa and now he thinks that he can think, analyze and TD. Everything he wrote comes down to the analysis of Internet messages. There is no question of any reality! The reality is there, in Ukraine! Many acquaintances came home "on vacation" and few people like to talk. But it is possible to draw certain conclusions!
        1. vladimirvn
          vladimirvn 15 July 2022 13: 30
          +5
          Share your findings.
          1. Ryazan87
            Ryazan87 15 July 2022 16: 10
            +3
            support. What conclusions can be drawn? besides being certain.
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 15 July 2022 17: 33
          +3
          Quote: ruha
          But certain conclusions can be drawn!

          How many of you gathered "great analysts"...
          Quote: ruha
          Many acquaintances came home "on vacation" and few people like to talk.

          In Soviet times, meetings were held in schools with WWII veterans. They also did not like to talk about the period of the war in June-October 1941. Moreover, they never initiated us into the nuances of army life. Bypassed topics when situations like this arose:

          And my friends talked a lot about the war in Chechnya ... Only everything with obscenities and spitting ...
          *****
          I suppose that among your acquaintances there were few who wanted to talk about "bull-ups" in various everyday situations. They all strove about "... and slippers in the window."
    4. Alekseev
      Alekseev 15 July 2022 13: 06
      +1
      I guess, yes. yes The author's insinuations are understandable and even true to some extent.
      But, there is no answer to the question: when will Russia start to fight for real. Rather, cleverness is critical, moreover, according to information from social networks. Say, it is not suppressed, it is not bombed. Say, the fools in the leadership, started and got stuck. It was not figs to start ...
      Where is the wind blowing from?
      What does it really mean?
      Mobilize 1 million civilian men, although it is impossible to train them quickly and supply them with fully modern weapons, also seriously, quickly crush the Banderlogs while losing half of the mobilized?
      Use tactical nuclear weapons?
      What other smart suggestions are there?
      Probably, due to the lack of other proposals, the current tactic was chosen - to destroy the armed forces of dill, and not to advance into its depths with the available numerically limited forces, which are not enough to form external and internal encirclement rings, dense occupation of territories to protect supply lines, etc.
      There will be no combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other departments of Ukraine and Banderstat will fall. As for the liquidation of Ze and the company of Daggers, the question is whether it brings more dill, harm or benefit.
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 15 July 2022 15: 15
        +16
        The question is, destroying the army of the mobilizing 40 millionth country at such a pace and replenishing with the necessary West, how many of our military and civilians will we lose and in what time frame?
        1. AdAstra
          AdAstra 15 July 2022 15: 38
          +10
          They won’t answer this question for you, but they will call you a pessimist and an all-weather.
        2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
          Uncle Vanya Susanin 15 July 2022 16: 48
          -4
          There are no 40 million there, for a long time, plus 8 million of those who still lived in Nenka at the time of February 24 are already abroad, and those who remained in the army are not particularly in a hurry.
        3. alexey sidykin
          alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 11: 16
          -2
          Yes, so far replenished from the West, but there is no longer a bottomless barrel, and some have given everything they could.
      2. mva
        mva 15 July 2022 16: 24
        -3
        Where did you surprise the armed forces of dill? Thanks to mobilization and supplies from the west, Yi is only getting stronger.
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 15 July 2022 17: 42
        +9
        Quote: Alekseev
        What other smart suggestions are there?

        You were told from the very beginning of the NWO that it was necessary to destroy ALL TRANSPORT AND ECONOMIC INFRASTRUCTURE in Ukraine. For this country to cease to exist as a state. This would be true demilitarization.
        As for denazification, I won't repeat myself - it's time to act "according to the laws of war." For this, all means are good ...
        Quote: Alekseev
        There will be no combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other departments of Ukraine and Banderstat will fall.

        And how many more civilians will these APU put in the LDNR and regions of Russia?
        Quote: Alekseev
        As for the liquidation of Ze and the company of Daggers, the question is whether it brings more dill, harm or benefit.

        Yes, hell would be there with benefit or harm. The lack of leadership in the country is worth a lot. In any case, it is unacceptable that various European things calmly walk around the streets of Ukrainian cities - they go as if to their hacienda.
  2. runway-1
    runway-1 15 July 2022 10: 19
    +1
    To begin with, it is worth saying that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have an advantage in field and artillery reconnaissance, especially in drones, both reconnaissance and strike.
    Add more undercover and satellite intelligence.
    The conclusion from the above is quite obvious. Perhaps I will disappoint someone, but what you are now seeing on the Ukrainian fronts is the real level of capabilities of the RF Armed Forces as part of a special military operation. All types of weapons are used and used, most of the personnel army of the RF Armed Forces participates in hostilities.
    In principle, everything is so, in general, the author quite correctly and competently described the situation and drew the appropriate conclusions!
    1. runway-1
      runway-1 15 July 2022 10: 22
      0
      ps The article is indirectly confirmed, in particular, by yesterday's short interview on RBC with the well-known A. Khodakovsky ...
      1. vladimirvn
        vladimirvn 15 July 2022 13: 33
        +6
        Khodakovsky is getting into politics all the time. cloudy type
        1. DenVB
          DenVB 15 July 2022 19: 45
          +6
          Quote: vladimirvn
          Khodakovsky is getting into politics all the time. cloudy type

          Among those who got into politics with us before, there was not a single muddy type?
    2. ruha
      ruha 15 July 2022 13: 11
      -2
      Competently? Do you also read the Internet and watch videos? And yes, you are also an analyst. I also get the impression, judging by the information from the Internet, that this is how everything is there. But wait. The Internet is worse than TV! Propaganda and fakes are just the same, and most importantly, trust in the Internet is more.
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 15 July 2022 15: 11
        +2
        Not always rosy information from well-known and respected military correspondents in the Russian army in telegram channels is also fairy tales and lies?
        1. Old tanker
          Old tanker 15 July 2022 17: 03
          +2
          Can you provide examples of such information? With the exception of Sladkov's information (true) about the defeat of our decision-making centers, albeit small, but important.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 15 July 2022 10: 22
    -5
    The conclusion from the above is quite obvious.
    . And what conclusions can there be ... the collective West has again staged a "drang for a hosten" and Russia, our people, will have to resist this.
    Break through, not the first time!
    You can catch up and criticize the "giraffe", but what will it change?
  4. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 15 July 2022 10: 27
    +11
    "We need partial mobilization (primarily of the military reserve), mobilization of industry, economic and political mobilization. President of the National Strategy Institute Mikhail Remizov wrote about what mobilization should be like back in May"
    I wrote about this on VO back in March.
    To fight "on a half-knee" means to merge the campaign!
    We need more people at the front!
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 15 July 2022 12: 03
      +3
      if only partial, without the mobilization of civilians who have only served urgently
      1. Old tanker
        Old tanker 15 July 2022 17: 25
        +1
        if only partial, without the mobilization of civilians who have only served urgently

        All storekeepers are already civilians. And the majority of privates and sergeants are conscripts. Yes, and former contractors lose their skills over the years
        Yes, and we can say that partial mobilization is already underway. Only voluntary.
        Volunteer battalions and divisions are now being formed in many regions of the country. They go through all stages of preparation. Acquisition, single training, coordination of squads / crews / calculations, coordination of companies, coordination of battalions.
        Still, not all fools are sitting in our General Staff.
    2. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 15 July 2022 12: 40
      +6
      Therefore, the creation of volunteer battalions (volunteer battalions) is underway. Not Ukrainian, Russian. And for some reason, dobrobat is considered Ukrainian
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. Old tanker
      Old tanker 15 July 2022 17: 06
      +1
      We need more people at the front!

      What VUS do you have?
      1. Paul Siebert
        Paul Siebert 15 July 2022 17: 10
        0
        The helmsman is a signalman.
        But, mind you, the vacancy is full, we don’t have so many ships in the Black Sea Fleet! wink
        1. Old tanker
          Old tanker 15 July 2022 17: 17
          +3
          Therefore, you are calling for mobilization? It won't save you. Let's retrain for a tanker. I had a mech-water from naval minders in Chechnya. Two days of hard work and became a driver!
          hi
          1. Paul Siebert
            Paul Siebert 15 July 2022 17: 49
            +4
            Yes, I fought in two wars, in the trenches ...
            Private...
            Are you making a coward out of me, tanker? ... repeat
            1. Old tanker
              Old tanker 15 July 2022 17: 54
              +2
              I did not sit in the trenches with you. So, I don’t know what kind of warrior you are. Quite possibly very brave.
              But I have one question for everyone who calls for mobilization - why is he still not a volunteer in the NWO?
              1. Paul Siebert
                Paul Siebert 15 July 2022 18: 16
                0
                Call - I'll go.
                Can you see Seversk itself in the panorama?
                1. Paul Siebert
                  Paul Siebert 15 July 2022 18: 18
                  +1
                  Why are you mad at me? Offended?
                  I'm sorry ...
                2. Old tanker
                  Old tanker 15 July 2022 18: 55
                  +5
                  Call - I'll go.

                  It is this excuse that all those who advocate mobilization use.
                  What panorama? Panorama of the artillerymen.
                  And I’m for mobilization, unlike you (we didn’t seem to drink on the brudershavt with the brave comfrey of two wars). Because I know what mobilization is.
                  1. Paul Siebert
                    Paul Siebert 15 July 2022 19: 48
                    -2
                    Stupid?
                    I wasn't in the tank...
                    1. Old tanker
                      Old tanker 15 July 2022 21: 35
                      0
                      I wasn’t, but I wrote about what the non-belmes is about.
                      I decided to seem smart, but it turned out like that.
                      So who's dumb here?
                      1. Paul Siebert
                        Paul Siebert 16 July 2022 02: 49
                        +1
                        Three facts.
                        Yes - I'm for partial mobilization.
                        Yes, I fought.
                        Yes, I'm dumb.
                        Because I know the proverb:Don't touch the shit, it won't stink!"
                        You won, driver! In a shit fight.
                        I won't write to you anymore. Get drunk.
                      2. eskulap
                        eskulap 17 July 2022 09: 07
                        0
                        You just didn’t put it that way - not partial mobilization, but a multiple increase in the size of the armed forces
    5. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 11: 19
      -2
      Why aren't you there yet?
  5. Curt
    Curt 15 July 2022 10: 28
    +19
    Our Army is the strongest in the world and we can stand 1 on 1 against Nata!. So it was on the evening news. I believe. (Sarcasm) We have been fiddling with Ukraine for almost half a year, although a few weeks before the NWO we were told that we would smash it in 3 days.
    And so it’s not only in the army, unfortunately, and the worst thing is that they didn’t save on the army, they raised it from their knees for 10 years, they threw everything into it.
    In general, our country is like my diploma. Big beautiful plump - but 90% bought and stolen from other diplomas, a beautiful introduction and conclusion.
    1. NNikolaich
      NNikolaich 15 July 2022 11: 14
      -14
      “...beautiful intro and conclusion.”

      Nervous, unconvincing, uninformative
      The article itself is also about nothing. “-The housekeeper pickled cucumbers!”
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 15 July 2022 14: 10
      +12
      we were told that in 3 days we will break it.
      The current ones like to make fun of the Soviet Union, Well, so what's liquid themselves. And if we celebrate the new year with a special operation, besides, they promise to return the covid and drive everyone into masks.
      1. mva
        mva 15 July 2022 14: 13
        +11
        All the prerequisites for meeting the new year with a special operation are evident. Although maybe not, by that time the special operation may have already been renamed in order to introduce martial law.
    3. Uncle Vanya Susanin
      Uncle Vanya Susanin 15 July 2022 16: 52
      +1
      and we can stand 1 on 1 against Nata

      The ability to stand 1 on 1 with Nata provides us with a nuclear triad capable of destroying all of humanity on the planet, and what did you think ???
    4. antivirus
      antivirus 15 July 2022 20: 52
      -1
      I also wrote with a pen, using a blank chart.
      Water entry - the conclusion did not pour. Words 2-3 per line stretched
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 11: 22
      +1
      Quote: Curt
      Big beautiful plump - but 90% bought and stolen from other diplomas, a beautiful introduction and conclusion.

      Beautiful! He admitted that he was a crook.
  6. Vladimir M
    Vladimir M 15 July 2022 10: 29
    +22
    To put it simply, the calculation of the forces and means involved in this operation was not correct. Then another question arises, what is this stupidity, incompetence, or something worse. Every stupid thing has a last name.
    1. aglet
      aglet 15 July 2022 10: 48
      +8
      "Every stupid thing has a last name."
      of course you know all of them
    2. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 15 July 2022 15: 06
      +12
      I can directly list them - the director of foreign intelligence, the head of the GRU of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Plus the commander of the KChF, the commander of the Aerospace Forces, the commander of the missile defense of the Russian Federation. All these "persons" are responsible for the planning, preparation and implementation of the SVO and the tasks set by the commander in chief. And it was they who provided him with information on the capabilities of the Russian army and navy in such an operation.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 16 July 2022 01: 56
        +2
        But he couldn’t get into the essence of what was presented? Especially in planning. Of course, they didn’t tell us anything directly, but after all, along the landing to Gostmel and the columns rapidly rushing deep into the outskirts of the column, they clearly implied the Crimean scenario. With flowers on the armor and draping Ukronats. Did he seriously think that they would not resist? Didn't know what was going on on the other side, with the population pumped up by Bandera? Such a decision, fateful, taking.
        1. TatarinSSSR
          TatarinSSSR 16 July 2022 08: 57
          +1
          Unfortunately, we are unlikely to know whether he penetrated or not. The worst thing is that no one was officially punished for erroneous and frankly false assessments of the situation in Ukraine before the start of the SVO, and they were not even removed from posts and posts. How the chair under the buttocks of the heads of all intelligence services and the commander of the Black Sea Fleet does not burn with conscience - I do not know. Apparently there is no conscience and officer dignity.
          1. AUL
            AUL 16 July 2022 09: 45
            +1
            Quote: TatarinSSSR
            The worst thing is that no one was officially punished for erroneous and frankly false assessments of the situation in Ukraine before the start of the SVO, and they were not even removed from posts and posts.

            Well, we don’t change horses at the crossing, so as not to rock the boat!
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 16 July 2022 10: 49
              0
              The result may be that the boat will go to the bottom. What is it, age? Loss of the qualities inherent earlier? Whatever you say, but to fill up the most serious competitors and rake a pipe under you, and with it the power, for many years, is a task for an outstanding will and mind.
  7. Alexga
    Alexga 15 July 2022 10: 30
    +10
    Basically, I agree with the author. But answering the question in the title of the article, I would answer this way when war is declared. Then all the provisions laid down in international law will be included in the actions. Then the shelling of civilians, and mockery of prisoners, and much more, will be considered war crimes. Then we can talk about international tribunals, about gallows for such criminals. Yes, and those who help them. The process of restoring order in the world has begun and our task is to do it. There is no other way.
  8. Pavel57
    Pavel57 15 July 2022 10: 31
    +2
    Any action in a protracted conflict will not be popular.
  9. NetKeys
    NetKeys 15 July 2022 10: 33
    0
    GDP, it seems to me, did not mean what is refuted in the article.
  10. faterdom
    faterdom 15 July 2022 10: 34
    +4
    We hope that everyone at the top is at least aware of this, and the manner of "not upsetting the chief with bad news" will be eliminated. For sabotage in its purest form.
    And at today's urgent meeting of both chambers of parliament, not only will the unsuccessful Ministry of Industry Manturov be promoted to deputy prime minister, this is not necessary to do, especially as a matter of urgency ....
    1. Souchastnik
      Souchastnik 15 July 2022 10: 56
      +9
      I wouldn't hope for it.
      They not only do not understand, but categorically want the opposite.
  11. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 15 July 2022 10: 38
    -10
    most of the personnel army of the RF Armed Forces participates in hostilities.
    That is, you say that the personnel of the RF Armed Forces does not exceed 200 - 250 thousand? It seems like, according to official data, the SVO is being carried out with the forces of 150 thousand people. Let's throw another 100 thousand, since most of the personnel army is there. It turns out no more than 250 thousand. Sorry, but I don’t believe it.
    The shortage of personnel in the NM LDNR and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is compensated by total mobilization in the republics of Donbass. Moreover, it is organized in such a way that it has all the signs of a crime. And how else to call it, when not only teachers, students and miners, but also people with serious diseases - diabetics are mobilized in Luhansk and Donetsk
    You, I believe, have irrefutable evidence that people are forcibly mobilized. Yes, and in violation of the law. Please, official documents that confirm these facts. Otherwise, the article may fall under the article, sorry for the tautology.
    1. Kondor
      Kondor 15 July 2022 11: 52
      +6
      Actually the author is right. The number of ground forces of Russia is only 280 thousand + 45 thousand airborne troops + 30 thousand marines. Therefore, the maximum possible number of fighters that the Armed Forces can provide is 360, while exposing all other boundaries. Taking into account the fact that part of the troops must stay at home, 250 thousand come out without partial mobilization.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 15 July 2022 12: 05
        +1
        a lot from the Russian Guard!
      2. Dilettante grandfather
        Dilettante grandfather 16 July 2022 05: 49
        -1
        The number of ground forces of Russia is only 280 thousand + 45 thousand airborne troops + 30 thousand marines.
        - Please, the source from where you got this information.
        And, for a second,
        The number of ground forces of Russia
        - these are not only military personnel on a contract and regular officers, it also includes personnel from among conscripts.
    2. ViktorBiryukov
      15 July 2022 13: 34
      +10
      I have no official documents, but there are acquaintances who fell under mobilization, and obviously not voluntarily. Here, an example - a doctor was walking down the street, stumbled upon people from the military registration and enlistment office, and as a result he was sent to the infantry as an ordinary shooter. There are more interesting cases - electricians came to eliminate the accident and as a result some of them fell under mobilization. It's okay, don't you think?
      1. Dilettante grandfather
        Dilettante grandfather 16 July 2022 05: 37
        -2
        Sorry, I don't believe in the word. No evidence - no fact. Rumors can be treated, but emphasizing that these are rumors. And you, having no evidence, pass it off as a fact.
    3. military_cat
      military_cat 15 July 2022 15: 16
      +8
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      Yes, and in violation of the law. Please, official documents

      Here is a powerful entry. Immediately with trump cards, as they say. Only, I think, it was necessary to demand not official documents, but sincere confessions signed by Putin, then he certainly would not have fought back.
      1. Dilettante grandfather
        Dilettante grandfather 16 July 2022 05: 39
        -2
        Any statement is unfounded if it is not supported by evidence.
  12. U-58
    U-58 15 July 2022 10: 38
    -1
    The author is disappointing.
    He is both a lawyer and a defeatist in one person.
    If his thoughts reflect the real picture, then what conclusions can be drawn from the fact that in the person of the Armed Forces of Ukraine we are dealing with a rather weak (among potential) adversary with low motivation and the will to win?
    The conclusions are frightening.
    When faced with a REAL opponent, the chances of our victory tend to zero.
    For both in terms of aviation and artillery, the same NATO will have an overwhelming superiority both on the ground and in the air.
    At the same time, the reserve for replenishing equipment with "them" is truly inexhaustible (compared to Ukraine).
    From here, the second toast, oh, sorry, conclusion.
    The basis of our security is exclusively the nuclear triad, which, without any exaggeration, is strong and quantitatively sufficient for "everything".
    Other armed forces are only able to keep the first massive, clashes from mozha to mozha. And everything....
    So I really want the author to be wrong.
    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. timokhin-aa
        timokhin-aa 15 July 2022 12: 17
        +2
        You are the gray gelding here, you put aside heaps, but in essence you can’t object anything.
        1. The comment was deleted.
          1. TatarinSSSR
            TatarinSSSR 15 July 2022 14: 56
            +2
            I hope you were not and will not be an officer of the Russian army.
    2. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 15 July 2022 11: 39
      +19
      I would really like him to be wrong, but 5 months of CBO and the results achieved indicate that he is right. The army is catastrophically unprepared for a war with a serious enemy.
      1. mva
        mva 15 July 2022 13: 25
        +3
        Not serious about that. Not ready for war even with a very mediocre opponent.
      2. smart ass
        smart ass 15 July 2022 14: 53
        -1
        It will be even worse if NATO realizes this! If the pack thinks that our army is weak, they will tear us apart
        1. Negro
          Negro 15 July 2022 15: 29
          +12
          Quote: Clever man
          It will be even worse if NATO realizes this!

          In fact, respected partners are looking at what is happening very carefully. And they understand more.
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 16 July 2022 14: 53
          -2
          Quote: Clever man
          It will be even worse if NATO realizes this!

          It will be worse if China understands this .....
      3. Unknown
        Unknown 15 July 2022 20: 46
        +4
        Quote: Ryazanets87
        I would really like him to be wrong, but 5 months of CBO and the results achieved indicate that he is right. The army is catastrophically unprepared for a war with a serious enemy.

        In truth, the political system of the Russian Federation, which was created on the ruins of the USSR, is not at all able to solve a single problem in the post-Soviet space, which he himself created. This is out of the question.
    3. KERMET
      KERMET 15 July 2022 15: 25
      -1
      With the triad, too, not everything is so smooth
  13. Paladin
    Paladin 15 July 2022 10: 41
    +5
    I will not comment on the article, but one point is interesting. Why do such articles begin to appear precisely when a successful offensive begins and the use of everything that is involved in the NWO with very good results?
    The arguments of the Colonel of the All FSB-GRU Girkin about air superiority and the influence of MANPADS on strategic bombers / missile carriers are especially delivering.))))))
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 15 July 2022 10: 55
      -5
      The arguments of the Colonel of the All FSB-GRU Girkin are especially delivering

      It is surprising that someone else remembers this subject, especially with the mention that he has some kind of military rank.
      1. Dobry_taxist_911
        Dobry_taxist_911 15 July 2022 11: 12
        -1
        And here it is for a reason!!!
      2. Kayala
        Kayala 15 July 2022 11: 36
        0
        Actually finished reading the article at the mention of Girkin! As soon as someone refers to him, you can stop the conversation, it immediately becomes obvious hu from hu ... An article from the category "Lelikuse has disappeared" and "we will all die", but for some reason the second most powerful army in the world, having, according to the statements of Ukrainian officials, a million strength and support of the entire NATA, backing away from the 150-strong grouping of the RF Armed Forces. I wonder why?
        1. Paladin
          Paladin 15 July 2022 14: 07
          0
          Patamushta couldn't. Well, or they have strategists of the level mentioned in the article.
    2. spirit
      spirit 15 July 2022 11: 16
      +8
      So we have an operational pause! The enemy is retreating in an organized manner to pre-prepared positions. The losses on both sides are huge. If we consider the criteria for the First World War to recapture 10 km with losses of less than 50% per unit, then yes The results are good hi
      1. Paladin
        Paladin 15 July 2022 11: 24
        -2
        Do you personally have data on our losses "less than 50%" (by the way, the concept is loose, losses of 1% are also less than 50%, as well as their absence in general) or is this another news from the Patzstal? Be careful, the place is occupied, Girkin is already sitting there))))))
      2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
        Uncle Vanya Susanin 15 July 2022 17: 11
        -1
        Losses 1 to 8 and this is on the offensive (mostly), not even bad.
    3. Apprentice_SAM
      Apprentice_SAM 15 July 2022 11: 32
      +5
      Why do such articles begin to appear precisely when a successful offensive begins and the use of everything that is involved in the NWO with very good results?


      Hello Paul!
      The author, sending an article for moderation, before publication, might not have known about the plans of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
      And, on the other hand, could assume any active actions on the part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (NATO). Then the article would be "in color".

      The arguments of the Colonel of the All FSB-GRU Girkin are especially delivering


      Maybe I'm wrong, but ... "Late" Girkin began to resemble the "early" Babchenko. IMHO.
      1. Paladin
        Paladin 15 July 2022 11: 41
        +2
        Hello Sergey!
        Here, no one knows about the plans of the General Staff, however, based on indirect data, many assumed that after Severodonetsk it would be exactly as it is now, and the author, to put it mildly in a tendentious article, thinks otherwise, and why, assuming the actions of NATO, not to assume the actions of the RF Armed Forces? Well, and so the moderation is not a week, but a maximum of a day or half.
        As for Girkin, I agree, they said well)) hi
        1. Apprentice_SAM
          Apprentice_SAM 15 July 2022 12: 10
          +4
          [quote No one here knows about the plans of the General Staff] [/ quote]
          Sometimes, after reading the comments, one gets the impression that the majority of the forum still knows all the plans and all the layouts, especially this can be seen under the negative articles.
          An interesting observation: if a year ago some users shouted "weak", now they shout that "weak")
    4. EvilLion
      EvilLion 15 July 2022 13: 14
      -4
      Because the author worked out 500 pigs, or even 2500. And he sits somewhere in Kyiv.
    5. The comment was deleted.
    6. The comment was deleted.
  14. Speedy
    Speedy 15 July 2022 11: 06
    -4
    Well, the opinion of two well-known whiners is not exactly an analysis of specialists. Murz buried a couple of our armies. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have no advantages in terms of drones, there is a much more dangerous embedding of the Ukrainian army in the Western intelligence circuit. According to Strelkov, everything is always bad in general.
    1. Speedy
      Speedy 15 July 2022 12: 10
      +3
      You can put a hundred more minuses, but it was, to put it mildly, unpleasant for the familiar guys to read Murza that their 35th army was defeated and crumbled. It's about the credibility of the sources.
  15. 9PA
    9PA 15 July 2022 11: 07
    -11
    When we put up 1 million infantrymen in the European direction, then we will start for real. Only sense to stop in Ukraine
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. AleksT
      AleksT 15 July 2022 12: 22
      +3
      Quote: 9PA
      When we set up 1 million infantrymen in the European direction

      It will be about nothing against the army of Europe
    3. Yuri Stepanov
      Yuri Stepanov 15 July 2022 14: 25
      +7
      Will you be one of that million?
      1. QQmorear1
        QQmorear1 15 July 2022 16: 16
        +7
        If only on the couch.
        1. Yuri Stepanov
          Yuri Stepanov 15 July 2022 16: 27
          +6
          That's what I think
    4. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 16 July 2022 11: 31
      +1
      Quote: 9PA
      When we put up 1 million infantrymen in the European direction, then we will start for real. Only sense to stop in Ukraine

      Have you already joined the ranks of volunteers?
  16. Yaroslavl
    Yaroslavl 15 July 2022 11: 18
    +16
    again, the author will be minus those who celebrated the victory in March ... they have already changed their shoes, and everything is going according to plan ... the author is right in many respects, we could not achieve strategic success, from the word at all ... there are small tactical victories, but they may soon be leveled by another wave of mobilization in Ukraine and the growing supply of weapons from advanced militarized states...
  17. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 15 July 2022 11: 33
    -9
    1. If there are not enough UAVs, they can be replaced by hundreds or thousands of light aircraft for which it is easy to prepare or there are already enough pilots. Of course, then there will be losses of pilots, but this is better than the superiority of the enemy tolerates.
    2. It is impossible to conduct a military operation against a 40 million country supplied by the US and NATO, with such a limited contingent of troops. If in Russia there is not at least a million volunteers for the front, then it’s better not to start beating. A million-strong army does not need a superweapon. Mortars, light guns and howitzers, MANPADS and ATGMs and other light weapons - I think that will be enough to complete the operation by the end of the year.
    1. AleksT
      AleksT 15 July 2022 11: 55
      +3
      Quote: Kostadinov
      1. If there are not enough UAVs, they can be replaced by hundreds or thousands of light aircraft for which it is easy to prepare or there are already enough pilots. Of course, then there will be losses of pilots, but this is better than the superiority of the enemy tolerates.

      The great military leaders spoke the same way. Why do we need drones if there is enough cannon fodder. Drones need money, and women give birth to warriors.
  18. Fantomchik
    Fantomchik 15 July 2022 11: 33
    -6
    Poking couch analysts, the author of the opus successfully joined them on the specified piece of furniture!
  19. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 15 July 2022 11: 38
    +11
    Counter-battery combat is not an easy task. This work should involve air reconnaissance (UAVs should patrol the air), and radio reconnaissance. However, UAVs, as you know, are critically lacking.

    Of course, much can be attributed to the lack of UAVs.
    But the question is - where are the classic counter-battery tools known since the Cold War? Where are the same counter-battery radars? Where did the "Lynx" and its heirs go? Where are the analogues of at least AN / TPQ-36?
    1. mva
      mva 15 July 2022 13: 37
      +4
      For successful modern counter-battery combat, there are few radars, it is necessary that information from them quickly arrive at the batteries. The enemy does not wait, after the volley immediately rolls up and leaves. Modern NATO weapons allow you to turn around in 10 minutes, shoot back and leave.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 15 July 2022 13: 49
        +10
        Quote: mva
        For successful modern counter-battery combat, there are few radars, it is necessary that information from them quickly arrive at the batteries. The enemy does not wait, after the volley immediately rolls up and leaves. Modern NATO weapons allow you to turn around in 10 minutes, shoot back and leave.

        In fact, these standards have been around for thirty years. About "five minutes in a firing position" in relation to NATO artillery, they wrote back in the Soviet ZVO.
        It turns out that the gunners were not ready even for a war of the 80s of the last century.
        1. mva
          mva 15 July 2022 13: 58
          +9
          It’s not only artillerymen who are not ready here. The team passing system itself is not ready. First, they detect the battery, then you need to report to the top (in the KShM). A team is already coming down from the top. Everyone works on very different communication equipment and cannot communicate directly with each other. in parts of a spooky zoo with communication facilities. But in KShM, this whole zoo is reduced to one, but this is a waste of time. Moreover, the communication channel in the KShM may be in the right place or the ZAS equipment may already be occupied by another unit, however. The army of the Russian Federation is not at all ready for network-centric hostilities.
          And in 8 years, the Ukrainians managed to build a primitive network-centric (what one sees, for example, a civilian drone, everyone else sees in real time) an artillery fire control system, they seem to call it "Nettle".
  20. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 15 July 2022 11: 48
    +10
    The author, of course, took on the ungrateful role of someone who would call a spade a spade. I would like to reproach him for some excessive pessimism, but alas. Agree completely.
  21. AleksT
    AleksT 15 July 2022 11: 50
    +16
    One of the few articles on VO that does not throw hats, but shows the real state of affairs.
    If in February-March one could argue with the author, call him a defeatist, then after almost six months of the special operation and receiving information from various sources, a completely different picture is formed in the head. The picture emerges is sad.
  22. parusnik
    parusnik 15 July 2022 11: 51
    +14
    industry mobilization
    Can i ask you ? What industry? Give examples of what can be mobilized? At what mobilized enterprises can conditionally produce the same UAVs? Microchips?
    1. timokhin-aa
      timokhin-aa 15 July 2022 12: 19
      +8
      Microchips are nowhere, and UAVs have even begun to be made in Lugansk, this is not Newton's binomial.
    2. Zoer
      Zoer 15 July 2022 12: 51
      +13
      Microchips on Micron, on Angstrem T, which, by the way, were bankrupted by efficient managers, and at the same time, our sawmillers bought chips for the same UAVs in China, but the prices for the final UAV were set such that they made everything from sand and dust themselves from scratch. And this is all under the control of the FSB, the Moscow Region and everyone else. And indeed, what kind of mobilization can we talk about with all this? Kleptocrats had to be purged even before 2010, right after Georgia. Develop your production. You look and the Maidan of 2014 would not have happened, and now everything would be completely different. But who will clean them out, kleptocrats? Well, they're not themselves...
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 15 July 2022 12: 55
        +7
        Develop your own production. But who will clean them out, the kleptocrats? Well, they are not themselves.
        .
        In fact, I'm talking about the same thing, and not specifically about UAVs and microchips.
  23. Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 July 2022 12: 16
    +11
    I support the author, but...
    Let's recall the articles on VO, where they enthusiastically wrote about the sale of the latest weapons abroad. And a drop in the Russian army.
    Farther. No one is surprised why in 1941 they built tanks, and did not fight on carts. Now tanks are not quite the last century. But why is everyone so afraid to build drones?
    All these years, the army was commanded, then by a furniture maker general, then by a builder general. And professionals are probably harmful to gentlemen democrats and capitalists.
    And finally, why is the government not even trying to improve life. Nabiullina also floats to the top. Manturov. Some kind of parallel import, just not to develop Russia.
    1. Yuri Stepanov
      Yuri Stepanov 15 July 2022 12: 58
      +11
      Why develop it? It is muddy and troublesome, long, and most importantly, thinking people are needed. And a thinking person is dangerous, it's easier to download from a country where everyone "works" as sales managers for goods imported from China in parallel.
    2. mva
      mva 15 July 2022 13: 43
      -3
      And why did you decide that in 1941 "troit tanks, and did not fight on carts"? At the beginning of the Second World War, the Red Army had more than 25 tanks, against 000 German ones. Only with their inept application by the fall of these 4 there was practically nothing left.
  24. Wbond
    Wbond 15 July 2022 12: 17
    0
    Most of the personnel army of the RF Armed Forces participates in hostilities.

    ... where does this information come from?
    1. Orik
      Orik 15 July 2022 12: 31
      0
      Unlike you, some people know how to think, collect information and analyze it.))
      1. Wbond
        Wbond 15 July 2022 14: 16
        +2
        ... and have we already switched to you?
    2. mva
      mva 15 July 2022 13: 50
      +1
      so no one hides the number of groups in Ukraine and the number of military branches as well. Do you think the fleet, strategic missilemen (from those serving this equipment), rear services, space troops, etc. can be sent to Ukraine?
  25. Raven 95
    Raven 95 15 July 2022 12: 33
    +10
    Very often, from some patriotic bloggers and couch analysts, one can hear that “Russia has not yet begun to fight for real.”

    VVP is definitely not a blogger.
    So he's a "couch analyst"?
    belay
    1. Cartalon
      Cartalon 15 July 2022 14: 54
      +8
      Well, he definitely has a sofa
  26. Radikal
    Radikal 15 July 2022 12: 36
    +7
    Quote: ruha
    The author doesn’t own anything at all, I’ll probably assume that he doesn’t own what is in his skull! GDP said we haven't started yet? So that's the way it is. He has complete information

    The GDP said a lot of things. For example, that he did not graduate from the Academy of the General Staff (just like in one film - "... we did not graduate from the academies ..."). True, Stalin also did not graduate from the Nikolaev Academy of the General Staff .... He, apart from the seminary, did not finish anything. bully
  27. Adagka
    Adagka 15 July 2022 12: 43
    +4
    it would be quite possible to increase the grouping simply at the expense of contract soldiers without mobilization, well, if you believe the official figures for the staffing, as God only knows.
    Another question is what we apparently have with the mat. partly complete seams, according to the general's reports, we have everything in chocolate and we have a lot of things in reserves, but apparently they are as far from reality as Rogozin is from Mars.
    1. lubesky
      lubesky 15 July 2022 15: 10
      +6
      Quote: Adagka
      it would be quite possible to increase the grouping simply at the expense of contract soldiers without mobilization, well, if you believe the official figures for the staffing, as God only knows.
      Another question is what we apparently have with the mat. partly complete seams, according to the general's reports, we have everything in chocolate and we have a lot of things in reserves, but apparently they are as far from reality as Rogozin is from Mars.
      Rogozin is already far even from Roskosmos
      1. AdAstra
        AdAstra 15 July 2022 15: 46
        +3
        In my opinion, they changed the awl to soap.
        1. lubesky
          lubesky 15 July 2022 19: 19
          +3
          Quote from AdAstra
          In my opinion, they changed the awl to soap.

          And you have the right opinion! Peskov has already said that castling is not connected with CLAIMS to his trampolines, ugh, sorry, to his work. Didn't the Accounting Chamber mathematically show this very NOT work in June?
          1. AdAstra
            AdAstra 16 July 2022 11: 32
            0
            The Accounts Chamber shows, but it can be seen by the wrong person.
  28. Zoer
    Zoer 15 July 2022 12: 45
    +7
    Quote: Romario_Argo
    if you destroy 1000 Natsiks a day remotely and further,

    "Write more - why should their infidels regret it?" (With)
  29. Boris55
    Boris55 15 July 2022 12: 45
    -5
    this is the real level of capabilities of the RF Armed Forces within the framework of a special military operation.

    Within the framework of the NWO - perhaps, taking into account the number of troops participating in the NWO. The main thing is that it works and we are advancing, while the enemy is running.

    ps
    Yesterday, a number of interesting laws were signed and published (that is, entered into force). Here is one of them, I think it will be useful for many to get acquainted with it, so as not to fall under it in the future:


    "The federal law was adopted by the State Duma on July 6, 2022 and approved by the Federation Council on July 8, 2022.

    Help the State Legal Department

    The federal law is aimed at ensuring the security of the Russian Federation and counteracting criminal encroachments on the foundations of the constitutional order.

    For this purpose, criminal liability is established for the following acts:

    participation of a citizen of the Russian Federation or a stateless person permanently residing in the Russian Federation in an armed conflict or hostilities on the territory of another state for purposes contrary to the interests of the Russian Federation;

    high treason in the form of going over to the side of the enemy;

    cooperation of a citizen of the Russian Federation on a confidential basis with representatives of foreign states, directed against the security of the Russian Federation;

    espionage in the form of transfer, collection, kidnapping or storage for the purpose of transferring information to the enemy in conditions of armed conflict that can be used against the Russian Federation;

    public calls to carry out activities directed against the security of the Russian Federation;

    violation by a citizen of the Russian Federation admitted to state secrets of the procedure for leaving the country, as well as the requirements for the protection of state secrets;

    participation outside the territory of the Russian Federation in the activities of a foreign or international non-governmental organization in respect of which a decision has been made to recognize its activities as undesirable on the territory of the Russian Federation;

    repeated propaganda or public demonstration of paraphernalia or symbols prohibited in the Russian Federation;

    repeated violation of the rules for centralized management of technical means of counteracting threats to the functioning of the information and telecommunications network "Internet" and the public communication network on the territory of the Russian Federation.

    In order to prevent the use of mercenaries in armed conflicts and hostilities, the sanctions provided for the corresponding crime are being tightened.

    In addition, changes are being made to the list of crimes for which confiscation of property is provided as a measure of a criminal law nature.

    Corresponding changes are being made to the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation in order to clarify the jurisdiction and investigative jurisdiction of criminal cases involving crimes for which liability is established by the Federal Law.

    From the President's website: http://www.kremlin.ru/acts/news/68896

    Signed by the President: July 14, 2022 14:05.
    "Changes have been made to the Criminal Code and the Code of Criminal Procedure aimed at ensuring security and counteracting criminal encroachments on the foundations of the constitutional order"
    1. Yuri Stepanov
      Yuri Stepanov 15 July 2022 12: 53
      +19
      It is strange that there is not a word about 2nd citizenship, property in unfriendly countries and the export of assets to these countries. Those. it's possible.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 15 July 2022 12: 57
        -5
        Quote: Yuri Stepanov
        It is strange that there is not a word about the 2nd citizenship

        In one law it is not possible to embrace the immensity. Go to the president's website in the documents section. A lot of laws were signed yesterday. I brought only one.
      2. AdAstra
        AdAstra 15 July 2022 15: 47
        +1
        These are the "legs" of whom you need "legs".
      3. The comment was deleted.
  30. BlackTiger74
    BlackTiger74 15 July 2022 12: 53
    -8
    It is felt from the side of the author that he is a forgiver)))
  31. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 15 July 2022 12: 56
    -8
    I saw a link to Strelkov, I don’t see the point in reading further.
  32. Adagka
    Adagka 15 July 2022 13: 00
    +12
    Quote: Yuri Stepanov
    It is strange that there is not a word about 2nd citizenship, property in unfriendly countries and the export of assets to these countries. Those. it's possible.

    it's different)
    as well as mediocre pissing off 300 billion reserves. but Rafik is not to blame .... (c)
    now the same characters who for 30 years have been pouring into our ears what a good West is and how we need to become part of one big European family are hanging another noodles about turning to the east, Russian and Chinese are brothers forever ....
    1. Yuri Stepanov
      Yuri Stepanov 15 July 2022 14: 30
      -2
      300 billion. This is a drop in the ocean ....
      1. DenVB
        DenVB 15 July 2022 14: 56
        +12
        Quote: Yuri Stepanov
        300 billion. This is a drop in the ocean ...

        A drop in the sea? For three hundred billion dollars, the entire Ukrainian army could simply be bought.
        1. Yuri Stepanov
          Yuri Stepanov 15 July 2022 16: 25
          -6
          I agree, why don't you ask yourself that this could be a compensation for Western "comrades". That they have tempered their ardor in helping Ukraine. Yes, of course, they still supply something, they cannot completely ignore Ukraine, but by and large, these deliveries are symbolic. Again, why in 2014 the Ukrainian army, as well as its leadership, showed such humility, did not even try to return the Crimea. Although Crimea was simply stuffed with Ukrainian units and weapons. Everyone knows that the West loves money, so we just bought it off. By and large, they do not care where the money comes from: from the communists, liberals, all sorts of freedom fighters. We just bought these territories, even in this way.
          1. DenVB
            DenVB 15 July 2022 16: 49
            +4
            Quote: Yuri Stepanov
            I agree, why don't you ask yourself that this could be a compensation for Western "comrades". That they have tempered their ardor in helping Ukraine.

            O! Putin's cunning plan strikes again! Brilliant. We are waiting for symbolic deliveries of cruise missiles to Ukrainians capable of reaching Moscow.
  33. EvilLion
    EvilLion 15 July 2022 13: 13
    -10
    Not an article, but another Kyiv agitation, about some kind of unsuppressed air defense, a threat of MANPADS for some strikes deep into the territory. Some mythical advantage of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in intelligence, references to Girkin, some mythical attacks on warehouses and faith in the divine highmars. Well, LDNR, of course, grab people on the streets. But the media is silent. As under Stalin, one half was sitting, the other was guarding, but no one knew anything.

    And the war in full force is simply ignoring the humanitarian aspects, that is, the removal of power plants and carpet bombing of large cities. Tales about air defense, which supposedly will prevent the Tu-160 from doing this, tell the Ukrainians, you know, the Air Force teaches how to break through air defense, and they will be able to suppress individual surviving air defense systems that still have to be on the route.

    I think that the article should be removed as enemy propaganda.
    1. DenVB
      DenVB 15 July 2022 14: 58
      +11
      Quote: EvilLion
      some mythical attacks on warehouses

      Mythical? I understand that you didn’t have the Internet, but what do you mean, don’t watch TV? Haven't you seen how babakhalo in Novaya Kakhovka?
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 16 July 2022 12: 21
        -1
        If a civilian facility with tons of saltpeter is located in Novaya Kakhovka, when Ukrainians shoot nearby, then I definitely have nothing to do with it. And Ukrainians no longer seem to be the dumbest in the area. Any type of cluster munition would have flown in, and even the wreckage of a downed one would have turned out no worse.
        1. DenVB
          DenVB 16 July 2022 13: 34
          +1
          Quote: EvilLion
          If a civilian facility with tons of saltpeter is located in Novaya Kakhovka, when Ukrainians shoot nearby, then I definitely have nothing to do with it.

          They also have a bakery there.
  34. mva
    mva 15 July 2022 13: 17
    -17
    Dear Victor, you forgot about one more possibility besides mobilization. You can still start using tactical nuclear weapons. I think it is quite possible for them to break into layered defenses and destroy bridges. Of course, there are downsides to this approach, but such a possibility theoretically exists.
    1. DenVB
      DenVB 15 July 2022 15: 00
      -12
      Quote: mva
      You can still start using tactical nuclear weapons. I think it is quite possible for them ... to destroy bridges.

      Repeat my thoughts. Destroying bridges with tactical nuclear strikes would be a great move. Firstly, the destruction of enemy logistics, and secondly, a demonstrative demonstration to the West of the seriousness of our intentions.
      1. mva
        mva 15 July 2022 15: 13
        +5
        Yes, they can solve current problems, but there are disadvantages.
        1. Radioactive contamination of the area
        2. Heavy casualties among non-combatants
        3. The reaction of the West is not known. After looking at all the "power" of the Russian army and making sure of the seriousness of its intentions, they can resolve a direct conflict, in which case we will all go to heaven, and they will simply die.
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 15 July 2022 15: 41
          -6
          The West 404 would not say that it is necessary as a territory to destroy all the pro-Western trash there, well, infection in this situation does not make sense, at the same time it will hook the psh, and put it in its place, and there will be no support through the infected territories of the junta.
        2. DenVB
          DenVB 15 July 2022 15: 57
          -4
          Quote: mva
          3. The reaction of the West is not known. After looking at all the "power" of the Russian army and making sure of the seriousness of its intentions, they can and will decide on a direct conflict

          See how the West is behaving with Kim. And he only has a couple of warheads and one and a half missiles. Why do they behave like this? Because he has a reputation as a man who, in which case, will not hesitate to gasp.

          What is our reputation? Cheek puffers and contract lovers.

          So, it would be necessary to change this reputation. And a good way to do this is to use nuclear weapons, but with a minimum of casualties. A terrible squeal will follow, but this will all end. Europeans may want a lot of things, but getting nuclear strikes on their bridges is not categorically in their plans.
          1. Adrey
            Adrey 15 July 2022 18: 37
            +2
            Quote: DenVB
            See how the West is behaving with Kim. And he only has a couple of warheads and one and a half missiles.

            And how does he behave? He turned to the DPRK as a fifth point and simply does not see point-blank. And Kimushka sits quietly for herself, she doesn’t climb beyond the 38th parallel. Sometimes the truth launches fireworks, so that they would not forget about him at all.
            1. DenVB
              DenVB 15 July 2022 19: 39
              -3
              Quote: Adrey
              And how does he behave? He turned to the DPRK as a fifth point and simply does not see point-blank.

              That's it. And how they frowned, how they fidgeted with aircraft carriers. But then it turned out that Kim's missiles really fly, and the charges explode - and somehow the aircraft carriers were blown away and left.
              1. Adrey
                Adrey 15 July 2022 19: 45
                +1
                Quote: DenVB
                That's it. And how they frowned, how they fidgeted with aircraft carriers. But then it turned out that Kim's missiles really fly, and the charges explode - and somehow the aircraft carriers were blown away and left.

                And how did the West get sick of it? And Kimushka ran to destroy the landfill.
                1. DenVB
                  DenVB 15 July 2022 19: 58
                  -3
                  Quote: Adrey
                  And how did the West get sick of it?

                  No way. Just like we, in principle, will not get sick if, say, American medium-range missiles with nuclear warheads are deployed in the Kharkov region. What's bad about it?

                  Quote: Adrey
                  And Kimushka ran to destroy the landfill.

                  Ah, the landfill...
                  1. Adrey
                    Adrey 15 July 2022 20: 11
                    +2
                    Quote: DenVB
                    No way. Just like we, in principle, will not get sick if, say, American medium-range missiles with nuclear warheads are deployed in the Kharkov region.

                    Pull up the materiel. The United States does not have such carriers (at least for now). They have been sitting at the INF for too long. Why don't you like tribaltics? It's even closer from there. I am generally silent about Finland hi
                    1. DenVB
                      DenVB 15 July 2022 20: 14
                      -3
                      Quote: Adrey
                      Pull up the materiel. The United States does not have such carriers (at least for now).

                      And never will?

                      Quote: Adrey
                      Why don't you like tribaltics?

                      Who told you that I don't like her?

                      Quote: Adrey
                      I am generally silent about Finland

                      And in vain.
      2. Adrey
        Adrey 15 July 2022 18: 33
        +3
        Quote: DenVB
        secondly, a demonstrative demonstration to the West of the seriousness of our intentions.

        And soon to receive a preventive nuclear strike on its territory.
        1. DenVB
          DenVB 15 July 2022 19: 42
          -2
          Quote: Adrey
          And soon to receive a preventive nuclear strike on its territory.

          Demonstrating to the enemy that you are afraid to use nuclear weapons, even when this is the last chance to turn the course of the war in your favor, is a much surer way to get a preventive strike on your territory.
          1. Adrey
            Adrey 15 July 2022 19: 46
            +1
            Quote: DenVB
            Demonstrating to the enemy that you are afraid to use nuclear weapons, even when this is the last chance to turn the course of the war in your favor, is a much surer way to get a preventive strike on your territory.

            You forgot that there is no war. There is a special operation.
            1. DenVB
              DenVB 15 July 2022 19: 55
              0
              Quote: Adrey
              You forgot that there is no war. There is a special operation.

              Do you seriously think that these verbal games of Russian propaganda are somehow interesting to those people in the West who decide to escalate or de-escalate the conflict with Russia?
              1. Adrey
                Adrey 15 July 2022 20: 03
                +1
                Quote: DenVB
                Do you seriously think that these verbal games of Russian propaganda are somehow interesting to those people in the West who decide to escalate or de-escalate the conflict with Russia?

                I seriously believe that things and events are called their own names.
                Depending on the titles, there are measures and decisions taken not only in the Russian Federation but also abroad.
                These are not my ideas. Well, that's how the law is written.
                Now try to use tactical nuclear weapons on the NWO. Who will you be after this for the whole world? hi
                1. DenVB
                  DenVB 15 July 2022 20: 10
                  +1
                  Quote: Adrey
                  I seriously believe that things and events are called by their proper names.

                  In the West, events are called something like this: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Russia_on_Ukraine_(2022)

                  Quote: Adrey
                  These are not my ideas. Well, that's how the law is written.

                  What laws? What are you talking about?

                  Quote: Adrey
                  And now try to use tactical nuclear weapons on the NWO. Who will you be after this for the whole world?

                  Goodwin, great and terrible?
                  1. Adrey
                    Adrey 15 July 2022 20: 14
                    +2
                    Quote: DenVB
                    Goodwin, great and terrible?

                    I see no point in further discussion on this topic. hi
                    1. DenVB
                      DenVB 15 July 2022 20: 18
                      -2
                      Quote: Adrey
                      I see no point in further discussion on this topic.

                      Yes, no one reads these books anymore.
  35. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 15 July 2022 13: 53
    +16
    No, no, author, mind you! Is it really possible to criticize our army so openly and talk about the shortcomings of this or that in its equipment or the short-sightedness and indecision of the leadership?! Nizya. They can sew an article.))) It is necessary to write about the victories, prosperity and perfection of Russian weapons! It is necessary to talk about the shameful flight and surrender of the Ukrainian troops. This is SVO, and there is no other way. As our authorities say - first victory (when, over whom and to what extent!?), And then dismantling the guilty.
    1. mva
      mva 15 July 2022 15: 06
      -2
      Girkin, it seems like it’s been possible for a long time. Maybe the author can get away with it?
  36. Natal Starya
    Natal Starya 15 July 2022 13: 57
    -12
    I join those who did not read the text after the words about Girkin / Strelkov. The text is a provocation, there is no analytics. There is a retelling of Ukrainian propaganda. It is surprisingly recognizable what the media of the enemy side preach.
    1. Novosibirsk
      Novosibirsk 15 July 2022 15: 40
      -2
      Well, Strelkov fumbles the most, apparently
      1. mva
        mva 15 July 2022 15: 59
        +2
        Not more than anyone, but he is not afraid to cut the truth-womb.
        1. Novosibirsk
          Novosibirsk 15 July 2022 16: 00
          -3
          That was the irony
  37. art having
    art having 15 July 2022 14: 01
    -10
    Surprised by the number of "all-propellers" on this thread!
  38. ShM05
    ShM05 15 July 2022 14: 22
    +12
    Russia used in Ukraine all types of weapons, except for nuclear, much more seriously? The only option is to announce mobilization and increase the grouping several times, but I'm afraid that then our economy will definitely not survive, including the reserve, troops for rotation, covering the border, etc., we need a million strong grouping. With this grouping, the maximum that we can do is to free the DPR and sit on the defensive.
  39. lopvlad
    lopvlad 15 July 2022 14: 30
    -16
    Initially, the main goal of the SVO was to preserve Ukraine as a state by quickly changing power in Kyiv. There was an expectation that when Russian troops were near Kyiv, Zelensky would either flee or capitulate.


    I have always been amazed by people who believe that they were able to calculate the hidden initial main goal of the NWO.
    The initial main goal of the NWO was the liberation of the territory of the DPR and LPR, and not the seizure and change of power in Kiev. And the goal that the author considers the primary main one is voiced to us, trying to pass it off as Russian, the West from the very beginning of the NWO in Ukraine to this day. This is it from every iron assured the whole world that Russia wants to capture Kyiv in three days and thereby win the war.
    Do you yourself believe that if Russia captured Kyiv in the first few days of the NMD and hung Zelensky on the first fence, then the war in Ukraine would end and the West, raising its handles up, would stop supplying weapons there and supporting the Bandera militants, the same, in turn, would massively lay down their arms when they heard that Zelensky capitalized? So why do you think that those who make decisions in Russia should have believed in this nonsense?
    Taking all this as a basis, it is easy to come to the conclusion that the throw of the Russian army to Kyiv in the early days of the NMD was not to capture it, but to disorganize the top of the Ukrainian government, fetter the reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in order to prevent their transfer to the Donbass, and also mislead the West that Russia had bought on their trap "the capture of Kyiv in a few days."

    Perhaps I will disappoint someone, but what you are now seeing on the Ukrainian fronts is the real level of capabilities of the RF Armed Forces as part of a special military operation.


    maybe I will disappoint the author, but what we see in Ukraine from the Russian side is precisely the NWO, and waging a full-fledged war when, in response to shelling from any direction, there is a response with erasure from the face of the earth to the foundation of that settlement, along with the entire population and infrastructure (electricity, gas, water supply, telecommunications and communications).
    And when Putin says that in Ukraine we haven’t started anything serious yet, this is the purest truth, because to start seriously means moving from actions within the framework of the NWO to actions that relate to a full-fledged war.
  40. Negro
    Negro 15 July 2022 14: 37
    +24
    Wow news. Zradniki made their way to the VO.
    Well, let's join the celebration of life.
    Military aviation is not used to its fullest?

    A special military operation highlighted Soviet-type aviation from an unpleasant side. Conceived a long time ago for air battles in the skies over the Rhine, it turns out to be practically incapable of working in a land conflict. The Aerospace Forces have neither modern means of destruction, nor well-developed tactics for suppressing the very ancient Ukrainian air defense, nor the ability to work directly at the front in the interests of ground units. There is no way to quickly remedy this situation - the partners, being initially much stronger, have been integrating Vietnamese and Middle Eastern experience into their military doctrine for decades. The VKS has no such experience.
    Russian artillery is not working at full strength?

    Russian artillery is numerous, but very backward, technically and doctrinally. It can form "firing fists" in the style of Stalinist strikes, but is not part of the battlefield information system - therefore it is not capable of a quick response to requests from the sergeant and lieutenant level. The Russian Federation simply does not have combat information systems. Some collective farm engineers with civilian quadrocopters are improving the situation, but not qualitatively.

    The only joy of the Russian side is the militarily worthless adversary. The Armed Forces of Ukraine does not have even a shadow of those opportunities that it could have with systematic work even with the existing budget. Ukrainians may have more quadrocopters than the Russian Federation, but with shells and especially spare barrels, it’s a complete atas. Therefore, it turns out to take the expenditure of shells. As long as it works.
    Only announced mobilization can significantly strengthen the Russian army, but already in the Russian Federation

    There is no one to mobilize in Russia. With the systematic regular work of the storerooms at military training camps - as in Israel, Switzerland, the US National Guard - the situation in the Russian Federation is not the case. VUS storerooms are not actually supported. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation tried to come up with something in the form of BARS (Combat Army Reserve of the Country) - the number of this structure is not really known, but it doesn’t look like “get up, the country is huge” and close. How unknown is the quality of work - in addition to ceremonial performances in the Russian Newspaper.

    The Special Military Operation as a whole is going from bad to worse. In February, it seemed that "we could repeat" the Danube operation - the entry of troops into Czechoslovakia in 68. “Our people are everywhere” are waiting for a signal, the state administration will be disorganized until the correct administration is appointed, the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will barricade themselves in the barracks. However, it quickly became clear that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are a little bit different from the Armed Forces of the USSR, neither in terms of resources, nor in terms of the quality of personnel at all levels. The lack of all of the above was compensated by immoderate optimism. But, as it turned out, sand is a poor substitute for oats. The special military operation ended on March 30 with the withdrawal of troops from Kyiv.

    And then this started.

    Despite the resolute statements of political scientists drunk to delirium tremens, the Russian Armed Forces did not see a war with NATO in Europe with conventional weapons in a nightmare. But respected partners, which is not surprising, were not so against it. And now, having received a theater of operations in "no man's land", they have unlimited opportunities for escalation - despite the fact that the RF Armed Forces have already used all their capabilities. Yes, there is not too much good for Ukraine - respected partners have never been distinguished by dog ​​fidelity. You can change your mind at any moment. However, they have not yet changed their minds - the military capabilities of the current Ukrainian friends and the RF Armed Forces are simply incomparable.
    1. ada
      ada 16 July 2022 04: 42
      -2
      O! The only savvy one. But, I propose to correct it a little, let's say - dream up:
      1. "... The Russian Armed Forces in a nightmare did not see a war with NATO in Europe with conventional weapons...." - there weren’t really any vultures here, you don’t need to open America (or are you a spy from America?), and if you remove unnecessary pathos and reduce NATU by 1 - 2 countries (USA and WB, because it’s an agreement, they have their own interests), then a situation corresponding to reality will turn out - a war in Europe with the basis of the strategy in the form of pre-emptive concentrated MOUs or tactical nuclear weapons with the formation of a gray buffer in Eastern and Central Europe (and there will be nothing to take there, but the Western one will still work), and earlier - yes, only thermonuclear tactical nuclear weapons / SNAO and a little more, to get rid of torment, SASHI were not interested at all, because far, up to 96% of the remaining population, in search of fresh water and food, no one needs. Here, quite right - no games with limited nuclear power and all sorts of conventions. But! And who will be the father? Third countries? That didn't work.
      2. "... But respected partners, which is not surprising, were not so against. ..." - not quite so, more precisely - not all of the initiates agreed, and the majority generally had a poor idea of ​​their role and began to get scared. The SASH had to put up with and be cunning, to negotiate with the GDP and with their own people and with China to be careful. Accordingly, there will be no endless escalation in the small regional one yet, several small Europeans and FSE on that will disappear. Unfortunately, lunch for Sasha is postponed, they were not ready.
      3. For military gathering activities and the preparation of a reserve in the "bourgeois" - cut in half, do not scare people with the unknown, and even with "planned work", especially in recent years wassat
      The rest of the world will not like it.
      1. Negro
        Negro 16 July 2022 09: 54
        +3
        Your stream of consciousness is incomprehensible to me.
        Quote: ada
        war in Europe with the basis of strategy in the form of preemptive concentrated MOUs or TNWs

        Over the past 77 years, there have been many cases when a nuclear state carried out an unsuccessful special military operation for it. There were cases when such a state was attacked. Moreover, there are many cases when the atomic bomb was in the hands of clowns or mentally disabled people. The first tradition was started by N.S. Khrushchev, now she is adequately represented by cute plump Kim. The second tradition is even older, coming directly from F.D. Roosevelt, now it is no less worthy of D.R. Biden. However, not once, with the exception of an understandable exception, did this lead to the use of nuclear weapons.
        Apparently, the political leadership of the Russian Federation is not yet ready to become a problem that the rest of the world needs to solve immediately and at any cost.
        Quote: ada
        and even with "planned work", especially in recent years

        For RF, it doesn't matter. The NATO Rapid Response Force "30/30/30" was already enough, and after increasing it to 400K even more so.
        1. ada
          ada 16 July 2022 16: 21
          -1
          Quote: Negro
          Your stream of consciousness is incomprehensible to me. ...
          Quite characteristic and probably would be useful to use it, but ... . In any case, thanks for the answer in a partially interesting direction.
          Quote: Negro
          ... For the Russian Federation, this does not matter. The NATO Rapid Response Force "30/30/30" was already enough, and after increasing it to 400K even more so.

          Would you be so kind as to shed light on the direction and depth of the tasks of the "quick-responders" for the accomplices of the "Military Enforcement"? Personally, I am very interested in your presentation. Don't refuse.
          1. Negro
            Negro 16 July 2022 19: 53
            +1
            Quote: ada
            focus and depth of tasks "quickly responsive"?

            Who will say it? In the West, there is now an obvious crisis of political leadership, which is why there is a big problem with setting goals.

            But political circumstances and power capabilities should be analyzed separately. Politics can change in a day, but combat readiness is shish.
            1. ada
              ada 21 July 2022 13: 44
              0
              Quote: Negro
              Who will say it? In the West, there is now an obvious crisis of political leadership, which is why there is a big problem with setting goals. ...

              Well, well, as expected, and no one helped us in this matter. Then, for good measure, I'll try it myself.
              "Who will say that?" The NATO bloc has a complex structure of decision-making, planning and organization of interaction on a contractual basis, but this is an external wrapper. This external wrapper, of necessity, is characterized by a long process of planning and public coverage of its activities with the declaration of its doctrinal documents, in particular various concepts that, as a rule, have nothing to do with real military planning, except for the general background (at least, to me about such "coincidences" were not known). It is to these that all sorts of "30 many times 30" belong, as well as "40 to 40", which is now observed in reality - there will not be and should not have been any "30 each". The plans for the use of the bloc's troops stand apart. A significant part of the military-political leadership of most of the countries participating in the bloc does not know at all the true role (purpose) of their armed forces in this planning, despite the personal sighting and signing of documents. Who can say? Well, those who directly define goals, develop concepts and strategies, set tasks for subordinates, plan and manage the process. Basically, these are representatives of the United States, whose leading role in the bloc is from the very beginning, and the bloc itself serves to project America's military pressure in the right direction in order to maintain its superiority in the world. Accordingly, all theories and developments of military planning come from the United States. They won't say. But practical actions cannot be hidden.

              "... In the West, there is now an obvious crisis of political leadership, which is why there is a big problem with setting goals...." The crisis is an objective condition for their existence, and they are forced to reproduce it. This is the constant task that they have to solve. Hence the grounds for theorizing wars, including those against us.
              Directly to our case, the theoretical foundations of the war in the Eastern strategic direction in the European theater of operations are based on the concept of projecting the military threat of the NATO Allied Armed Forces to a significant depth of the European part of our country while organizing a direct armed confrontation with us without crossing the state border of the Russian Federation and switching to hostilities, which makes it possible to have the most advantageous position for an ultimatum influence on state structures and contributing to the further development of other, critically important, factors of influence, including the population, both as a whole and on its individual groups (strata). The main cumulative factors here are: political, economic and informational pressure with the imputation of historical guilt to the population before other peoples and the incorrect choice of the model of government, their own inferiority.
              Taking into account the similar development of the situation in other strategic directions, it was believed that such tension without escalation into a major military conflict would be enough for the West to receive the necessary concessions from the leadership of the Russian Federation in military, political and economic terms with the further introduction of de facto external control over the country and the gradual elimination statehood throughout its territory, the elimination of a critical military threat. As a result, the leading countries of the West gained control over the resource base that ensures the maintenance of the existing system of the world order and the basis for its transformation at their discretion based on the strategy of maintaining superiority over other peoples without significant opposition.
              The transition to direct war was highly undesirable. And why? Ah, this is reality. Because, mathematical analysis and modeling is theory, and practice is much more impressive.
              Combat operations were envisaged mainly against the Republic of Belarus, that is, against our joint GV (s) on its territory (in relation to us - as an ally of the Republic of Belarus) and only with an unfavorable development of events and the composition of NATO forces and means there was completely different. It is here that Ukraine plays the main role as a geostrategic foothold and additional national armed forces, which make it possible to neutralize the capabilities of our grouping of armed forces in the Republic of Belarus and the Black Sea Fleet forces, which actually lose their combat stability in such a configuration. To ensure the advance preparation of this bridgehead, in order to quickly occupy the NATO Allied Forces, all these events that we have observed over the past 30 years were carried out in Ukraine until 2020 (approximately). The basis for the development of tension in the concept has always been the presence in the adjacent territories of insoluble contradictions between countries and within countries on political, economic, territorial and national issues with the potential for artificial development into an armed conflict with controlled escalation, which ensured the application of international law and the involvement of its bodies to give the legitimacy of their actions. In particular, for Ukraine, the issues of territorial claims to Belarus (Polesie) have always been worked out as a reason for its involvement in the conflict, not counting the claims of Poland (Brest, etc.). Our KO was also subject to development in this regard.
              This concept of the NATO war, in the strategy of countering the Russian Federation, was the main one, it involved the use and, if necessary, the use of conventional weapons, the exclusion of the use of nuclear weapons (the rest, using nuclear weapons on the scale of a limited nuclear war and larger ones, are secondary and did not ensure the achievement of the desired position) and acted practically until 2020, until a clear change in the West-East balance of power was not in favor of the United States and the countries of the NATO bloc as a whole, that is, the West, which required an urgent revision of their military planning. If earlier, in order to implement these plans, it was required to have forces and means in the theater of operations that provide cover and control over the accumulation and deployment of troops of the first echelon block in areas of concentration without crossing borders during the period of growing threats, then by 2020 the situation required a different approach.
              In view of the obvious failures of the West in counteracting the Russian Federation in the last decade, in order to take urgent measures to correct the situation, the United States had to resort to merging NATO military planning with long-term planning to create conditions for a regional conflict in Europe of special services and individual military-political and financial-economic groups with global influence, based on the concept of the "Great War in Europe" and previously carried out activities to lay its foundations in Europe: unification with a single currency (the principle of "uniting - divide and manage"), economic dependence and vulnerability, new political leaders (change elites), fascisization, militarization and the prerequisites for the creation of the European Armed Forces, the accumulation of human resources (emigration), military budgets, increased information influence on the population with the designation of the enemy and ways to fight him, etc. players (USA and WB), preparation of the Western buffer (Germany, Fr., It.), advanced groups (East. EUR oops), initiating a local conflict in Ukraine. The basis of planning, all the same, is the creation of tension and the escalation of an armed controlled conflict with the final object - the Russian Federation, without the direct involvement of the USA, WB and France in it, in order to avoid the use of nuclear weapons, but providing conditions for effective influence on us. One of the main points here was the assignment to the national armed forces of the bloc countries bordering Ukraine, Moldova and Belarus, tasks of a military nature, including on the territory of Ukraine on an independent initiative or on the basis of international law with the assistance of the relevant authorities. The main task is to preserve part of the NATO foothold. The involvement of NATO in the conflict in a collective form is highly undesirable for the bloc.
              This is where the answer to the question of the focus and depth of tasks for the NATO Rapid Reaction Force lies. With regard to Ukraine, this means covering and regulating the crossing of the border by national armed forces on an initiative basis, managing them and organizing interaction with the forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Allied Forces of NATO through the advanced command posts of NATO combat groups in the region. The depth of the task is border areas.
              As you can see, some are not ready to "transition", while others are not able to "react quickly" to provide the task, therefore, the rapid reaction forces are simply planned to be replaced by a significant grouping of NATO Allied Forces troops from the hopelessness of the situation. All, more than 30-year-old NATO military planning in the Eastern strategic direction, based on the concept used, has come to an end, but there is no new one yet.
              The question is settled?
  41. Vadim Sharygin
    Vadim Sharygin 15 July 2022 14: 53
    +9
    In my opinion, Russia is not only catastrophically losing its own NMD, trying to conduct military operations against a strong adversary with NATO behind its back, but thereby losing the GLOBAL OPPOSITION, which is already underway, the third world war, losing precious time, NOT even STARTING even the vital large-scale all-Russian mobilization all forces and resources. Our strategists, limited in thinking and degree of responsibility, decided that it is possible to solve life-changing tasks for the country and the whole world with a limited contingent of the peacetime army?! And so, it was possible to waste time, initiative, trample on the spot, exhaust the forces involved to the limit, give the enemy an opportunity to maneuver, gather and concentrate forces - at the same time, managing to shift curbs in Moscow for billions of rubles, swell tens of billions into stupid secondary projects and projects ... The guys who laid down their heads in the process of this fidgeting around the bush planned by our "battalion generalissimos" are sorry to the point of pain in their hearts ...
    1. mva
      mva 15 July 2022 14: 59
      +2
      Nicholas 2nd in the 14th year did not lose time and immediately began to act (mobilization, transfer of the economy to a war footing). Remind me how his actions ended in 1917? By the way, 1 million Russians died on the fronts of the 2st World War, and more than 10 million in civilian life.
      1. tatra
        tatra 15 July 2022 15: 25
        0
        Nicholas II plunged Russia and the Russian people into the First World War, which they did not need, for the sake of helping Serbia and France, and the Russian enemies of the Bolsheviks, together with the invaders of Russia, the interventionists, and with the help of the Germans, unleashed the Civil War in order to overthrow the power of the Bolsheviks.
        So, what is next ?
        1. mva
          mva 15 July 2022 15: 54
          0
          so they would have unleashed it if the population did not support them?
          The dissatisfaction of the population has accumulated, and this is the result. In this case, everything can be similar (losses at the front + a sharp decline in living standards). The coalition will have to resist in economic terms. So, the mobilization and transfer of industrial production to military rails is a double-edged sword and which end of it will work is not yet known.
      2. DenVB
        DenVB 15 July 2022 17: 04
        +6
        Quote: mva
        Nicholas 2nd in the 14th year did not lose time and immediately began to act (mobilization, transfer of the economy to a war footing). Remind me how his actions ended in 1917?

        Now try to draw the same analogy with Stalin and 1941.
  42. Reznov
    Reznov 15 July 2022 15: 25
    +2
    "At the moment, Russia is using the tactics of concentrating a huge number of MLRS in one of the directions (as it was near Severodonetsk and Lisichansk) in order to create a total advantage. It works, the goals are achieved, but this can only be done in one area, while the rest will be weakened"

    Come on. Russia have thousands of MLRS pieces. Just bring out everything and achieve total superiority everywhere.
  43. Anatoly Proskurin
    Anatoly Proskurin 15 July 2022 15: 32
    0
    I agree. And there is.
  44. Novosibirsk
    Novosibirsk 15 July 2022 15: 34
    -2
    Strelkov navel of the earth? Well, there was. Supervised. So when was it and at what level
    1. mva
      mva 15 July 2022 16: 01
      +2
      Supervised, for a long time, but his former subordinates are still there. And the level is the Minister of Defense of the DPR.
      1. Novosibirsk
        Novosibirsk 15 July 2022 16: 12
        0
        Minister of Defense already. DPR...
        1. mva
          mva 15 July 2022 16: 20
          0
          DNR troops
          4 1st Army Corps
          4.1 1st Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Slavic Brigade
          4.2 3rd Separate Guards Motor Rifle Brigade
          4.3 5th separate motorized rifle Donetsk brigade named after the first head of the DPR A. V. Zakharchenko
          4.4 100th separate motorized rifle brigade
          4.5 Separate artillery brigade "Kolchuga"
          4.6 9th Separate Mariupol-Khingan Marine Regiment
          4.7 11th Separate Guards Motor Rifle Enakievo-Danube Regiment
          4.8 Separate commandant's regiment
          4.9 2nd separate tank battalion "Diesel"
          4.10 Separate anti-aircraft missile division
          4.11 Separate reconnaissance battalion of special purpose marines "Sparta"
          4.12 Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Assault Battalion "Somalia"
          4.13 1st separate battalion of Special Forces "Khan"
          4.14 3rd separate battalion of Special Forces
          4.15 Separate repair and restoration battalion "Congo"
          4.16 Separate command and control battalion "Web"
          4.17 Separate logistics battalion
          4.18 Separate engineer company
          4.19 Separate EW company
          4.20 Separate UAV company
          4.21 Azov Flotilla
          5 Territorial Defense Battalions

          Enough for you?
          1. Novosibirsk
            Novosibirsk 15 July 2022 16: 36
            +3
            The current operation, to put it mildly, differs in scale from those events of 2014
            1. mva
              mva 15 July 2022 16: 46
              +2
              Naturally different, but Girkin is not a low-flying person and is quite competent.
              1. Novosibirsk
                Novosibirsk 15 July 2022 18: 33
                -1
                He is a military politician first and foremost. Consider this too
              2. Iris
                Iris 15 July 2022 19: 09
                +1
                He has no military education. He fought a bit in Yugoslavia as a volunteer, then signed a contract and served as a mortar man. Then - in his words - in the special forces. All this is a sergeant. How he turned out to be an FSB colonel - history is silent.
  45. Dimon Krasnodar
    Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 15: 58
    -10
    Yes, analytics at the level of the first year of the institute ....
    The author cannot fully analyze the issue, there is not enough depth of thought .. After all, it’s not just that the GDP says that they haven’t really started yet.
    What are the arguments in favor of the fact that they have not really started yet.
    1. In Russia, there is a huge amount of MLRS, artillery and point-y OTRK in storage.
    This is a purely military way to repeatedly increase the fire impact along the entire front, just by an order of magnitude and the issue of accuracy will no longer matter.
    Let me give you an example, the concentration of 300 complexes and 1000-3000 missiles removed from conservation OTRK point y will not leave a wet spot at the places of concentration of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    The same Avdiivka will fall during the day.
    Within a week or two it will be possible to clear the territory to Zaporozhye and Dnepropetrovsk.
    On the Southern Front, where the bare steppe near Nikolaev, everything will be very sad for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    And there are simply a huge number of missiles in reserve for points in Russia.
    Plus, 1000 hailstones and 500 hurricanes removed from conservation ....
    How do you like the effect?
    It will also be possible to remove part of the troops from Donetsk and launch a new offensive in the Zhytomyr region, demolishing everything and everyone with artillery ...
    A lot of things can be done if Russia declares war and starts to bang in a serious way ....
    Putin did not lie at all in his statement.
    And your advice is not to spread raw information, but to take the trouble to find out all the possible scenarios for the development of events.
    1. smaug78
      smaug78 15 July 2022 16: 11
      +10
      Your level is even lower, don't flatter yourself...
      1. Dimon Krasnodar
        Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 16: 15
        -2
        I don't claim your respect. But this moment cannot be bypassed. The same Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully reopened the equipment. And we have by far the most.
        So what are your arguments that I'm wrong?
        1. Novosibirsk
          Novosibirsk 15 July 2022 16: 39
          0
          We just can't hit residential areas. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine are hiding there, including
          1. Dimon Krasnodar
            Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 16: 54
            -1
            I agree, but I just voiced the moment that the author of the article missed
    2. mva
      mva 15 July 2022 16: 27
      +6
      Open your eyes and look at the videos from the battles. Points U, Grady (60s), Hurricanes and even T-62, BMP-1 and motorized leagues from the warehouses of the mobile reserve have long been in business. And it won’t work right away to put them into action. have been lying for a long time and require restoration before use + calculations need to be typed and trained somewhere.
      1. Dimon Krasnodar
        Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 16: 35
        -4
        It's you who open your eyes and think about how much there is in storage ...
        Enough for 2 world wars. Your statements are simply stupid and do not cover the entire amount of the country's mob reserve.
        1. mva
          mva 15 July 2022 16: 40
          +11
          Do you have to be so naive? Read carefully what I wrote above. It is not possible to take equipment from the mobile reserve and use it. For 60 years, she stopped working. She will first need prevention (replacement of rubber products, electronic components, etc.). Your statements are stupid. In addition, part of the equipment was cannibalized. For example, spare parts for the T-72B3 that are in service, where did they get them from if the factories did not produce them? Therefore, they went from the warehouses of the T-62, and not the T-72.
          1. Dimon Krasnodar
            Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 16: 52
            -5
            You say this, but I myself am a witness that the most impossible things, with proper planning and leadership, are successfully implemented. Do you think that equipment is worthless at storage bases? Do you think there are no manuals and instructions for actions in wartime?
            T-62s were taken to organize checkpoints. And 72,80 and even a little 90 stand quietly at the bases and are waiting in the wings.
            And there are tens of thousands of tanks, your statement on the sewerage is not valid ....
            1. mva
              mva 15 July 2022 16: 59
              +6
              Oh, they made me laugh :) Even if there are instructions, they also need personnel and spare parts. This is the extent to which we can carry out preventive maintenance in such a way that we can remove it from conservation and continue to do so.
              And at the expense of the T-90, you were cruelly mistaken; there were only 200 of them. I will tell you a great secret, less than 2000 of them were produced mainly for export, in the Russian Federation only about 450 are left.
              1. Dimon Krasnodar
                Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 17: 11
                -4
                And where did you find that I was talking about the number of T90 tanks, but I wrote that there are not many of them.
                Probably a well-known fact that there were about 90 T300a pieces and they all went into storage, well, some went to Syria ...
                Well, I would not laugh about finding personnel and spare parts, this is all solvable and does not present any difficulties. More serious things are successfully and in a short time being carried out in the country, for example, the Crimean bridge and the transport infrastructure to it. Or the supply of energy to the Crimea.
                And here it is possible, as soon as possible, to start supplying the first echelons of equipment from storage bases ....
                In government agencies now there is no concept is not feasible)))
                1. Adrey
                  Adrey 15 July 2022 18: 55
                  +4
                  Quote: Dimon Krasnodar
                  Well, I would not laugh about finding personnel and spare parts, this is all solvable and does not present any difficulties.

                  And do you already have solutions?
                  Quote: Dimon Krasnodar
                  In government agencies now there is no concept is not feasible)))

                  But that's for sure wassat
    3. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 15 July 2022 16: 33
      +11
      Let me give you an example, the concentration of 300 complexes and 1000-3000 missiles removed from conservation OTRK point y will not leave a wet spot at the places of concentration of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      Cool offer. Small matter:
      1. Find 300 Tochka U OTRK systems on conservation. If that "as of 1991, the USSR had 250-300 Tochka launchers."
      Okay, ok, found it.
      2. Bring all 300 complexes into combat-ready condition. Okay, let's say all the years of conservation they were stored in ideal conditions, and all 300 are ready for battle in a week.
      3. Find 2000 serviceable missiles for them. Ok, found it.
      4. Find and prepare calculations for 300 complexes. If anything, this is 4500 trained soldiers and officers. Well, they threw a cry for the retired storerooms, they found it.
      5. Put together divisions and brigades, OTRK does not exist on its own, does it? Ok, done.
      6. Provide fuel, spare parts and transfer to Donbass. Ok, nonsense, of course.
      7. Provide target designation, well, it's as easy as shelling pears: Avdiivka.
      8. Concentrate somewhere these same 300 complexes at a distance of less than 100 km from Avdiivka.
      And kaaak gasp ... Brilliant.
      This proposal is not the level of the first year of the institute, of course. Everything is much more serious.
      1. Dimon Krasnodar
        Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 16: 44
        -5
        Yes, there is a lot of work, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine were able to reopen their systems and missiles and prepare them for use.
        Therefore, if there is an order, then they will execute and prepare both equipment and calculations.
        Also, do not forget about the MLRS, there were only 4,500 thousand hail in storage, plus about 500 hurricanes, a certain number of tornadoes. Plus, there are hundreds of rows of acacias and carnations on the bases ... if not thousands.
        And how many tanks?
        Thousands worth 72,80 waiting for them to come...
        1. Awaz
          Awaz 15 July 2022 17: 05
          +6
          who's going to come ? We have a real shortage of personnel. Yes, and tanks in storage require re-preservation and often repairs and often repairs are long and expensive .. But the biggest problem is the problem of personnel ...
          1. Dimon Krasnodar
            Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 17: 18
            -6
            Who told you about the deficit?
            The Armed Forces of Ukraine with their storage were decided as soon as possible, do you think they will not decide in Russia?
            We have an order of magnitude more opportunities and no shelling, no risks. You can safely allocate civilian personnel to help the Russian Armed Forces and resolve the issue, for which state structures have been created that have all the necessary capabilities to solve any problems.
            1. Awaz
              Awaz 15 July 2022 17: 54
              +4
              it's all possible hypothetically. In reality, everything is always much more complicated. And why hasn't this been done before?
              1. Dimon Krasnodar
                Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 18: 19
                -4
                Friend, what are you writing like a dunno)))
                Hypothetically, reality is more complicated, etc.
                I wrote my comment on the article. Reasonable remark.
                Tell me why the author did not take this moment into account in his story?
                You instructed him pluses, but his analytics are not complete, the article is superficial, does not take into account many points.
                I can also add that voluntary mobilization is taking place now, the formation of new units, their coordination, etc.
                The author did not reach this point in his analysis ....
                1. Awaz
                  Awaz 15 July 2022 18: 45
                  +8
                  Yes, I have something to be offended. I'm away from the war. It’s just that I understand people like you, yes, those civilians and children who die every day are tactical losses, for the sake of higher goals, and they are not your relatives and you don’t care about them. Unfortunately, my good and close friends died there and I don’t care about that. In principle, one can still understand when people die due to their own stupidity, but when it is due to the stupidity of those who are supposed to protect them, this is the bottom.
                  1. Dimon Krasnodar
                    Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 19: 16
                    -3
                    Here I ask you not to judge me.
                    I did not write my opinion about the war.
                    I wrote only analytics, these are different things.
                    As for the war, I have a Christian basis.
                    That is, all power is from God.
                    And kings have been given the power to wage war. Saul led, David led, Solomon led wars...
                    War is a reflection of the actions of people and entire nations.
                    You can talk a lot about this, I just for myself found in Scripture in the Bible the answers to all questions about the processes taking place in the world.
                    These are the fundamental concepts of good and evil, truth and falsehood.
                    Firstly, in the universe around us there are laws according to which it exists, but it cannot exist without a legislator.
                    Further, it is clearly established that there was a moment of creation, there are many different opinions and hypotheses.
                    Scripture speaks of this in two places in the book of Genesis and in the Gospel of John.
                    It is clearly stated that the world was created through the Son, who is the image of the One God.
                    He was in paradise with Adam and Eve, and he came to take away that initial sin from which we lost eternal life and became mortal.
                    Please do not laugh, if you want a comprehensive communication with analytics and confirmation of the fundamental values ​​that are spoken of in the Bible, I am ready to communicate, for example, in a telegram.
                    I'll just say for starters.
                    God gave man a choice, to keep the law (and this is the law of Love, to the neighbor and to God) or to follow the path of lies, hypocrisy and greed.
                    So we see the confirmation of this choice in quantum physics, in the experiment of Schrödinger, when the observer is the beginning of events.
                    Further, we can conclude that all scenarios for the development of events are initially known and only a person makes this choice and eventually comes to his end with a set of his actions and deeds, on which, by the way, the duration of his life in this world depends ...
      2. Awaz
        Awaz 15 July 2022 17: 59
        +2
        Nikitos you are great. And then I hesitated to communicate with dimons and dichlorvos ... By the way, dichlorvos was blown away along the way ..
        1. Dimon Krasnodar
          Dimon Krasnodar 15 July 2022 18: 25
          -1
          Friend, and I was interested in talking. I do not take offense at such attacks. Yes, in fact, you correctly said that I am nobody and nothing depends on me.
          I just expressed my opinion, I found that the analytics is superficial and does not take into account many points ...
          Just don't worry too much and don't be offended by me.
    4. Adrey
      Adrey 15 July 2022 18: 51
      +3
      Quote: Dimon Krasnodar
      Plus, 1000 hailstones and 500 hurricanes removed from conservation ....

      What a horror wassat. And who will manage all this?
  46. smaug78
    smaug78 15 July 2022 16: 10
    +4
    Unfortunately, not much has changed since WWII...
  47. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 15 July 2022 16: 29
    +6
    When Russia starts to fight for real

    The soldiers are fighting for real. They have no questions or complaints. Questions and claims to the generals.
    When will the generals begin to apply their direct duties - to fight and win?
  48. Jonny_Su
    Jonny_Su 15 July 2022 16: 30
    +9
    Norm conclusions. With the only panacea - mobilization - I, as a couch military man, do not agree. Let me remind you that the failures of the 1-2 stages of the campaign were associated with poor planning of operations and clumsy interaction of military branches. It is possible to increase the efficiency of work by bringing decisions about the defeat and involvement of artillery and air force directly to the persons on the LBS. + more carefully organize the supply and training of personnel. See Murza's last post about the UAV over Stakhanov. Too many failures on inconsistency and lack of weapons in the right place.
    1. Novosibirsk
      Novosibirsk 15 July 2022 16: 42
      +5
      Yes, already somehow fed up with the mobilization. There is such. It is necessary to mobilize the entire editorial staff of VO))
  49. Dmirty
    Dmirty 15 July 2022 16: 46
    0
    Of course, if there is political will, they can strike at the command and control centers in Kyiv, but this will not affect the course of hostilities strategically. Attacks on bridges may have a limited effect on the course of hostilities, but it is impossible to destroy all bridges at once. Especially considering that they are covered by Ukrainian air defense. This will take quite a lot of time. But you still need to try, because at the moment the Armed Forces of Ukraine are not experiencing any problems with the supply, transportation of fuel and lubricants and shells. Western weapons transferred to Ukraine are quickly delivered to the front.
    Dope, utter nonsense and panicking! If you set up such strikes, then a week will not pass and the effect will be achieved! The effect is the lives of Russian Soldiers!
  50. hermit
    hermit 15 July 2022 16: 59
    +4
    The war in Ukraine showed the rottenness of the Putin regime. However, it is not yet evening. Maybe he's not so rotten after all. It's still rotten though.