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Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked Nova Kakhovka with missiles of the American HIMARS complex

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Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked Nova Kakhovka with missiles of the American HIMARS complex

Ukrainian troops attacked the settlements of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. So, the city of Novaya Kakhovka came under attack from the Ukrainian armed forces. The shelling led to destruction and casualties in the city. Recall that Novaya Kakhovka is controlled by the RF Armed Forces.


Representatives of the local administration report that as a result of the Ukrainian strike on the city there are dead and wounded. At the moment, there is no data on the exact number of victims of the shelling carried out by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The head of the Novokakhovka administration, Volodymyr Leontiev, noted that firefighters in the city are fighting the fire, which broke out after Ukrainian troops struck civilian infrastructure, in the city center. It is reported about the use of American-made HIMARS complexes, previously delivered to Kyiv.

Volodymyr Leontiev noted that the Ukrainian troops deliberately hit the center - using high-precision missiles weapon.

In this regard, the head of the administration of Nova Kakhovka compared the Ukrainian attack on the city center with the American atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. According to him, the essence of the use of weapons in this case was the same - to achieve maximum damage to a peaceful city. The head of the city made such a comment for journalists TASS.

At the same time, the Ukrainian side claims that the strike was inflicted on the weapons depot. And in this case, the Ukrainian president no longer cares that the strike on the warehouse (if it really was him) killed and injured ordinary citizens, and Ukrainians at that. This fact does not cause any reflection in Zelensky, which once again speaks of the special cynicism of the Kyiv regime, for which its own citizens are just a bargaining chip.
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  1. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 12 July 2022 06: 33
    +16
    It's high time to tear down the top management ruins to hell
    1. Cheshire
      Cheshire 12 July 2022 06: 39
      -3
      Here in the stapro doctrine of Gerasimov they wrote that we need a joker so that there is no civil war in 404 and the entry of NATO troops. Well, as always, to sign the surrender. fellow
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 12 July 2022 07: 09
        +11
        hitting the warehouse (if it really was him)

        Obviously, it is very large.

        And yes, it's a legitimate military target. From the point of view of the military - if they do not destroy it, then with its help they destroy them. In a good way, such things should be away from residential buildings.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 12 July 2022 07: 42
          -1
          Without a doubt, there is a warehouse near Novaya Kakhovka.
          A strategically important point is Kakhovskaya HPP.
          Surely, part of the missiles were directed at the dam.
        2. Spring fluff
          Spring fluff 12 July 2022 08: 59
          -1
          for the future, it would be good to take this into account and not place saltpeter warehouses near settlements
          1. Orik
            Orik 12 July 2022 09: 30
            +1
            It was 5 months, but such convenient access roads.)
            1. mva
              mva 13 July 2022 08: 21
              -2
              So HIMARS only work for a few weeks, not 5 months. Previously, warehouses at such a distance were almost inaccessible. Now they will have to be placed further, which will create problems with logistics (much more vehicles will be required, I think 2..3 times).
        3. Foundling
          Foundling 12 July 2022 09: 32
          +7
          They write that the humanitarian aid rushed. But jokes aside. I would like to listen to the adherents "just a few chimars do not solve anything." It's unpleasant, of course. but it seems they are really more effective than tornadoes
          1. Orik
            Orik 12 July 2022 09: 40
            +5
            I would like to listen to the adherents "just a few himars do not solve anything"

            What do you want to hear from them? They are dumb and untrained.
          2. bayard
            bayard 12 July 2022 23: 11
            0
            Quote: Foundling
            They write that the humanitarian aid rushed. But jokes aside. I would like to listen

            The blow fell on the storage of saltpeter (fertilizer), which detonated. Remember how saltpeter exploded in Beirut? There was more of her.
            And in terms of efficiency, Hymars corresponds to our "Hurricane". And it is knocked down by our air defense in the same way as the "Tornados" and "Hurricanes" still of Soviet production. But Kakhovka itself, apparently, our air defense did not cover that night.
            1. mva
              mva 13 July 2022 08: 25
              +2
              Quote: bayard
              Quote: Foundling
              They write that the humanitarian aid rushed. But jokes aside. I would like to listen

              The blow fell on the storage of saltpeter (fertilizer), which detonated. Remember how saltpeter exploded in Beirut? There was more of her.
              And in terms of efficiency, Hymars corresponds to our "Hurricane". And it is knocked down by our air defense in the same way as the "Tornados" and "Hurricanes" still of Soviet production. But Kakhovka itself, apparently, our air defense did not cover that night.

              Explain where the saltpeter has a secondary detonation (many separate explosions, and not just 1 big one), the expansion of the exploding elements of "nitrate"?
              Compare videos from Beirut and Kakhovka and find 10 differences:(
      2. Orik
        Orik 12 July 2022 09: 48
        -1
        Who wrote? Zhenya Fedorov, this is pure propaganda.)))
      3. Glory1974
        Glory1974 12 July 2022 12: 34
        -2
        we need a joker so that there is no civil war in 404 and the entry of NATO troops.

        Zelensky will not be able to exert any influence on these things. Most likely, as the Americans said, there is an agreement not to touch top officials. They officially confirmed this, a week later Gerasimov and Shoigu came to inspect the troops in Ukraine.
        If we kill Zelensky, then our leaders themselves will become a target. Do they need it?
        1. Cheshire
          Cheshire 12 July 2022 14: 51
          -1
          Quote: glory1974
          Zelensky will not be able to exert any influence on these things.

          But Gerasimov does not agree with you. Take the trouble to read an article about his doctrine, and you will understand his point of view. hi
          1. Glory1974
            Glory1974 13 July 2022 10: 14
            0
            there were many chiefs of the general staff in Russia, and they could not come to a consensus on many issues. Therefore, the "Gerasimov doctrine" is only his opinion, not the fact that it is correct, and explains everything.
            In Chechnya, either Dudayev or Maskhadov were kept alive to the last, hoping to come to an agreement with them on something. But the result was the same, liquidation, but committed much later than necessary. There is such a term in the United States, "lame duck", about the president who lost the election but has not yet transferred the case. We have the concept of a "downed pilot" - an official who has not done his job and is leaving his post. There is only one meaning, no one ever decides anything with such people. In the case of Zelensky, he is controlled by the British, even his guards are from British specialists. If something doesn't go according to plan, they won't let him play by our rules. Therefore, it is pointless to wait for him to sign something there, or prevent it.
    2. MrFYGY
      MrFYGY 12 July 2022 07: 25
      +5
      Dear partners cannot be touched according to the agreements in Istanbul. Today, grain has also begun to be exported by ships.
    3. MBRSS
      MBRSS 12 July 2022 07: 34
      0
      Yes, our goal should be the government and high command of Ukraine, led by the Green Klop. If you can’t immediately press down, then at least force them to hide in the cracks (bunkers, buried in the checkpoint).
      It is now clear that the Bedbug is not very concerned about the lives of citizens and the integrity of cities. This means that we need to focus on Kyiv and declare 40-50 large infrastructure targets for destruction with precision weapons. Impacts can be reported a couple of hours before application.
      1. Cheshire
        Cheshire 12 July 2022 10: 00
        -1
        Quote: MBRBS
        Yes, our goal should be the government and high command of Ukraine, led by the Green Klop. If you can’t immediately press down, then at least force them to hide in the cracks (bunkers, buried in the checkpoint).
        It is now clear that the Bedbug is not very concerned about the lives of citizens and the integrity of cities. This means that we need to focus on Kyiv and declare 40-50 large infrastructure targets for destruction with precision weapons.

        Aren't the goals too small for a superpower? Bedbugs were always crushed by the way, never drawing attention to it.
        Our goals are bigger and bigger.
        hi
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  2. Li17
    Li17 12 July 2022 06: 46
    +10
    Well, General Konoshenkov will ask them!
    1. The black
      The black 12 July 2022 07: 09
      +4
      On this site we often try to separate the national battalions and the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And so am I. But, as practice shows, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are absolutely no different in their cruelty from all these basics and aidars. They are the same criminals. And there are no less crimes on their conscience. Therefore, all persons who put on the uniform of the ukrovermacht are a priori, at least, accomplices of the Nazis.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 July 2022 07: 21
        +1
        Quote: Black
        But, as practice shows, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are absolutely no different in their cruelty from all these Azovs and Aidars.

        I never doubted that the National Batts, Terbats and the Armed Forces of Ukraine were one Nazi "world smeared", as well as with respect to the UPA / OUN. It is not in vain that the NWO is called "denazification".
      2. Orik
        Orik 12 July 2022 09: 28
        -2
        For 8 years of the Minsk shame, the Nazis have long been built into the structure of all law enforcement agencies. During this time, they managed to recruit raguli to military schools, release and prepare them.
      3. AdAstra
        AdAstra 12 July 2022 10: 38
        0
        Quite right, they are all smeared with the same world.
    2. Nikoha2010
      Nikoha2010 12 July 2022 07: 29
      +6
      As soon as I see him, I immediately switch. Dry summary and continuous "Like we will answer"! Aha! Yes, they already have you, or rather, like kittens. Letter X.
  3. Hagen
    Hagen 12 July 2022 06: 46
    +4
    This fact does not cause any reflection in Zelensky

    And will not call. Until we declare the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine war criminals and destroy the office of the President of Ukraine, for example ... In the end, the entire Zelensky regime can be recognized as "criminal" at the legislative level and start a real "hunt" by the intelligence and SN forces for representatives of top management structures. And in general, it is high time to destroy the supreme governing bodies of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Reznikov can still, like a cockroach, hide under the stove, but the departments of the General Staff, which are directly involved in planning and information analysis of the situation, are more difficult to hide. So they need to be "wet". A general without his apparatus is not worth much.
    1. shapkin ushankin
      shapkin ushankin 12 July 2022 06: 53
      +1
      That's right ... It looks like it's time to recognize Ukraine as a terrorist state, like ISIS ... With all the consequences ...
    2. man
      man 12 July 2022 08: 33
      -1
      Until we declare the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine war criminals
      Are you out of your mind?
      Actually, even Hitler's Wehrmacht,headquarters and high command were not recognized as criminal organizations
      1. Magog_
        Magog_ 12 July 2022 09: 23
        0
        the Wehrmacht, the General Staff and the High Command were not recognized
        You want to say that Keitel was not sentenced to death by the tribunal? And the fact that Paulus escaped trial means that during his captivity he collaborated with the command of the spacecraft, participated in propaganda measures to influence German soldiers. And it should be recalled that the main point of accusation at the Nuremberg Tribunal was the preparation and organization of the war ... Paulus took, almost the most active, part in the development of a war plan against the USSR.
        1. man
          man 12 July 2022 11: 43
          0
          You want to say that Keitel was not sentenced to death by the tribunal? And the fact that Paulus
          It's about criminal organizations, and not about individual criminals. Neither the General Staff nor the High Command of the Wehrmacht were recognized as criminal organizations, unlike the leadership of the SS, for example
          1. Magog_
            Magog_ 12 July 2022 15: 11
            0
            Doesn't Keitel's sentence mean that the General Staff of the Wehrmacht is recognized as criminal? It is in our logic of Soviet times that any of the officers of the General Staff, but not his chief, are to blame for the miscalculations of 41 ... Keitel also thought so, he was only following the orders of the Fuhrer!
            1. man
              man 12 July 2022 15: 46
              0
              Doesn't Keitel's sentence mean that the General Staff of the Wehrmacht is recognized as criminal?
              Doesn't mean. Type in the search engine "Nuremberg Trials" and read. It's stupid to argue against the facts
              1. Magog_
                Magog_ 12 July 2022 16: 37
                -1
                Is it difficult to quote an excerpt from the verdict? Is there any logic in my question? The head of the organization (in our case, the General Staff) issues criminal orders, the organization executes, the boss is tried and punished - thus a shadow on the entire structure. And to everyone, according to the crimes, who was on the bench. Not this way ?
      2. Hagen
        Hagen 12 July 2022 12: 38
        -1
        Quote: mann
        Are you out of your mind?
        In fact, even the Nazi Wehrmacht, the General Staff and the High Command were not recognized as criminal organizations

        I consider the non-recognition of the General Staff and the High Command of the Wehrmacht as criminal organizations as an omission of the Nuremberg Tribunal. At the same time, Keitel was still hanged. It's just that the court included countries that were already our opponents at the time of the trial, albeit hidden ones. Under their cover, many even from the SS got away from a well-deserved punishment.
        1. man
          man 12 July 2022 15: 56
          0
          I consider the non-recognition of the General Staff and the High Command of the Wehrmacht as criminal organizations as an omission of the Nuremberg Tribunal.
          Unkilled argument in the legal aspect! smile
        2. Magog_
          Magog_ 12 July 2022 17: 33
          -1
          "General Staff" and "Supreme Command" are an attribute of any state. "ISIS", "TALIBAN", "Al-Qaeda" (tfu-tfu-tfu, mind me!) - criminal organizations. And they are condemned and banned ... SS is an analogue of the SBU or another similar structure of any state. If the leadership of the latter is pursuing a criminal policy, this does not mean that all over the world the General Staffs, the High Command, and the security services should be recognized as criminal organizations. What's wrong ?
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 July 2022 06: 52
    0
    No one (including the Americans) doubted that the heavy weapons supplied by the Americans and their allies would be used to the full against the civilian population and infrastructure. According to today's reports, the blow fell, incl. and in a warehouse with saltpeter, which detonated, which caused even greater destruction and casualties.
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    1. Asad
      Asad 12 July 2022 07: 35
      -2
      So was it a saltpeter warehouse, or ammunition? If the latter, then the sad experience of recent days is bewildering in the choice of storage space.
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 12 July 2022 08: 39
        0
        Saltpeter is still the same infection, so it can bang, mom do not worry
        1. Asad
          Asad 12 July 2022 08: 51
          0
          Andrew ! Well, the experience of Beirut could remind our leaders that the saltpeter warehouse in the city center is very dangerous? Especially where saboteurs are like dogs behind a bathhouse. Not with a rocket, they would have gotten there differently.
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 12 July 2022 08: 56
            -2
            If everyone took into account past or other experience and really, like in books, learned from other people's mistakes, then would everything be happily ever after, which is not the case in real life, almost from the word.
            1. Asad
              Asad 12 July 2022 09: 05
              -1
              Naturally, it is impossible to take everything into account, but you must agree that it is criminal not to notice the presence of such an amount of explosive substances.
              1. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 12 July 2022 09: 15
                0
                Yes .. Our famous rake
  6. Awaz
    Awaz 12 July 2022 07: 00
    +12
    Where do we have Dichlorfoss, who will soon explain to everyone that everything is going according to plan and the warehouse in N Kakhovka was specially handed over (or merged) by the air defense systems of the RF Armed Forces in order to cause maximum damage to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the warehouse in Shakhtersk and other cities . I'm not talking about other very effective hits on military infrastructure.
    Everything goes according to plan ? Well, yes, we have not yet begun to fight for real ...
    1. Chronos
      Chronos 12 July 2022 07: 29
      -7
      Quote: AwaZ
      Where do we have Dichlorfoss, who will soon explain to everyone that everything is going according to plan and the warehouse in N Kakhovka was specially handed over (or merged) by the air defense systems of the RF Armed Forces in order to cause maximum damage to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the warehouse in Shakhtersk and other cities . I'm not talking about other very effective hits on military infrastructure.
      Everything goes according to plan ? Well, yes, we have not yet begun to fight for real ...

      You write like that, as if dill tanks near Moscow. No air defense gives 100% protection, it only minimizes damage. The dills, of course, snarl with the Hymaris, but the front is moving only to the west. Fighting the Khaimaris before the advent of Iranian UAVs is difficult.
      1. Asad
        Asad 12 July 2022 07: 50
        +12
        Are we living in Papua? Let's hope for Iranian UAVs?
        1. Chronos
          Chronos 12 July 2022 08: 26
          -1
          Quote: ASAD
          Are we living in Papua? Let's hope for Iranian UAVs?

          Of course, there are no Bayraktars, but the equipment is solid. Of course, you can live with a small number of UAVs, as it is now. If the Americans are not lying, Iran will supply hundreds of UAVs, including attack ones. Operator training is already underway. And there the result of the three-shift work of our plant should already appear. I don’t pretend to anything, but it is strike UAVs that seem to be the most reliable way to destroy the Hymaris.
          1. Bronik
            Bronik 12 July 2022 09: 22
            -4
            It's a shame ! Get UAVs from a third world country where half the population are illiterate donkey and camel drivers. By the way, in the 80s, for Iran, the Union was Satan (though small), and the United States was big. By the way, many Iranians remember the Soviet occupation. There is a large cemetery in Tabriz where the victims of airstrikes are buried.
            1. Vladimir Michailovich
              Vladimir Michailovich 12 July 2022 13: 02
              +1
              Duc drivers of donkeys and camels in terms of intelligence are 1000 times higher than office plankton from Moscow time.
        2. Awaz
          Awaz 12 July 2022 10: 46
          +2
          such as dichlorvos will justify anything, even if the wild tribes of South America send their poisoned bows and arrows as a humanitarian aid ...
      2. Awaz
        Awaz 12 July 2022 10: 44
        +2
        Well, I'll start with the fact that the Germans, when they were standing near Moscow, even in a nightmare could not imagine that in a little over 1000 days, Stalin's tanks would drive around Berlin ..
        Secondly, it would be possible to justify the air defense and the generals from the supply only after the first arrival. After the second such arrival, during the Second World War, most of the generals would go to the wall or to the shrafbats.
        Then what .. according to local reports, there is still something exploding and burning at the place of arrival. No, well, yes, you can, of course, believe the version that this is a fertilizer warehouse on fire, but more recently, a fertilizer warehouse has been blown up in Beirut and how this happens, you can look at an insane number of videos. And the further these official statements will strongly disagree with what is happening, no one will believe it. I think even the local population is already laughing at this version ..
        And even if suddenly it really was a warehouse with fertilizers, then what remnants of the mind had to be thought out in order to fit a huge warehouse of potential explosives to the front line.
        1. Chronos
          Chronos 12 July 2022 11: 01
          -2
          Take it easy. During the Second World War, different things happened, someone Stalin forgave everything, someone went to the tribunal after the first mistake. The explosion is very similar to an ammunition depot, but we do not know what and how much was lost. Asking questions on the forum won't change anything. And yes, Iranian UAVs are far from a bow and arrow. They sculpt them, copying captured American ones, as best they can, of course.
          1. Awaz
            Awaz 12 July 2022 11: 21
            +2
            You first remember what Putin said in the early days of the war ... and how the general rhetoric of the authorities changed later, if they really decide to buy drones from Iran ..
            Iranian UAVs, if this is true, is a demonstration of what they have done to the fullest already ..
            1. Chronos
              Chronos 12 July 2022 11: 28
              -3
              Quote: AwaZ
              You first remember what Putin said in the early days of the war ... and how the general rhetoric of the authorities changed later, if they really decide to buy drones from Iran ..
              Iranian UAVs, if this is true, is a demonstration of what they have done to the fullest already ..

              I don’t follow at all who said what, and I don’t advise you, words are wind. I myself wrote here that it will not be possible to denitify everyone.
              And about UAVs - admitting mistakes is the first way to correct them. We need to saturate the front with shock UAVs, we ourselves have been making them for a long time, only Iran can sell them. Now they are doing what they should have done in February. Although, of course, it is better to pretend that everything is fine and bring Maviks with the help of volunteers. So what?
              1. Awaz
                Awaz 12 July 2022 11: 39
                +3
                Failures went from the first days. For a long time and stubbornly, no one took any action. the same UAV problem immediately arose and yes, it was necessary to immediately start looking for supplies in the same Iran. In addition to the UAV, it turned out that we still have a bunch of problems that are not being solved. Banal radio communication, I'm not talking about more serious things. And this will continue until it is completely pressed down, and then they will go to look around the world for who would make a radio for us, then they will go to look for who would teach us to shoot from artillery more accurately, and so on and so forth .. Now our aviation only flies over its territory, because there is nothing to suppress the enemy's air defense, which has long been focal and not even systemic. And if you look at the archives of TK Zvezda ... you will be very surprised, but we have everything that I wrote about and all of it is unparalleled.
                We now have a catastrophic shortage of infantry and a huge number of high-ranking mowers. This is where there is a very good reserve for strengthening and it can be used without the involvement of foreign specialists. This is what I propose to do first of all .. Just as we have a lot of cheers of patriots in chat rooms. I think it's time for them to clear their minds in the trenches of Avdiivka too
  7. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 12 July 2022 07: 01
    +1
    They will turn all cities into ruins
  8. duschman80-81
    duschman80-81 12 July 2022 07: 07
    +1
    And nothing flies over Kuev ... Strange.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 12 July 2022 07: 30
      +1
      We just haven't started fighting yet.
      1. Magog_
        Magog_ 12 July 2022 09: 33
        +5
        These two theses of our government are already really infuriating:
        and we have not yet begun to fight seriously
        и
        we will strike at the decision-making centers
        With this approach, as a result of the SVO, it will turn out that the entire liberated southeast will lie in ruins, and the Westerners will live quietly in flourishing cities and towns, spitting and giggling towards the "pro-Russian regions" ... This will be the result of "denazification"?
  9. Pharmacist
    Pharmacist 12 July 2022 07: 13
    -1
    Very sad news this morning. sad Here it is, Western weapons. I watch the news on TV - there is silence about it so far. Apparently there are no "red lines" yet.
    I will add: they also hit Energodar from a nuclear power plant. Terrorist state as it is. Give them an atomic bomb - they will drop it without hesitation.
  10. MrFYGY
    MrFYGY 12 July 2022 07: 24
    +1
    At the same time.

    The first eight foreign vessels arrived at the ports of Ukraine to export agricultural products - the Naval Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were involved in the provision of transportation.

    Here is such gratitude from Ukraine.
  11. Nikoha2010
    Nikoha2010 12 July 2022 07: 25
    +4
    What the hell! Explain to me, sofa, military pensioner, what [mat] is happening?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 12 July 2022 07: 53
      +9
      Quote from Nikoha2010
      What the hell! Explain to me, sofa, military pensioner, what [mat] is happening?

      Once again, unparalleled air defense was unable to repel the blow. And the "smart" military put up an ammunition depot in urban areas. Which naturally did not stop the APU from being hit. Well, all the destroying VKS can’t track down and destroy the complexes, which, according to the general opinion of the authors and readers of TopWar, will be destroyed at the border and will not have any effect on the war winked
      1. Semak
        Semak 12 July 2022 08: 37
        -7
        army, attack, and fighter aviation participates from the VKS, what do you propose from this set to track down and destroy the constantly nomadic himars, deep behind enemy lines?
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 12 July 2022 09: 47
          0
          Everything is involved from VSK, including strategic

          Russia used Tu-95 and Tu-160 strategic bombers to attack Kyiv

          And the air force strikes in the full depth of Ukraine. Therefore, there is something
          1. Semak
            Semak 12 July 2022 10: 08
            0
            These are all strikes against immovable targets. himarsy, what do you propose to hunt down and destroy?
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 12 July 2022 10: 34
              0
              Quote: Semak
              These are all strikes against immovable targets. himarsy, what do you propose to hunt down and destroy?

              Aviation. Do we not have a reconnaissance and strike accident? No intelligence? Or maybe satellites are still dropping film on Earth?
              1. Semak
                Semak 12 July 2022 12: 40
                0
                So aviation will not fly blind behind enemy lines. This is the main question, for everyone, where is INTELLIGENCE, or rather, where is not intelligence itself, but the results of the work of the army, based on the data of this very intelligence, of all types, types, etc.? in the meantime, we even have front-line bombers from time to time rise into the air or no longer rise, after losses. The same Su-34 can operate hundreds of kilometers deep from the front line, well, not the KA-52, but or the SU-25, these Himars will fly, drive across the steppes of nezalEzhnoy, since they have brought the situation to this.
                In general, as always, there are more questions than answers.
      2. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 12 July 2022 08: 42
        -4
        I think it’s true that saltpeter was for field work. Ammunition there would have made holes in everything besides the shock wave and would have burned differently and you couldn’t put it in every air defense depot
      3. man
        man 12 July 2022 08: 47
        +7
        The Aerospace Forces cannot in any way track down and destroy the complexes, which, according to the general opinion of the authors and readers of TopVar, will be destroyed even at the border and will not have any effect on the war
        Yes, in the sea of ​​​​such ura-optimists
        1. runway-1
          runway-1 12 July 2022 17: 25
          0
          And professional... winked
      4. runway-1
        runway-1 12 July 2022 17: 24
        -1
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Quote from Nikoha2010
        What the hell! Explain to me, sofa, military pensioner, what [mat] is happening?

        Once again, unparalleled air defense was unable to repel the blow. And the "smart" military put up an ammunition depot in urban areas. Which naturally did not stop the APU from being hit. Well, all the destroying VKS can’t track down and destroy the complexes, which, according to the general opinion of the authors and readers of TopWar, will be destroyed at the border and will not have any effect on the war winked

        You do not understand, this is different! winked
    2. duschman80-81
      duschman80-81 12 July 2022 08: 37
      +4
      That (mat) is happening, ..
    3. Amper
      Amper 12 July 2022 09: 55
      +2
      For 30 years of "reforms" everything has rotted, the Sun has not escaped this misfortune either. Everything is ruled by Pu's circle of friends, talents do not live there, they are undesirable, they do not fit in with the goals of the party - live for your pleasure, after us even a deluge. request
  12. Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
    Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 12 July 2022 07: 51
    -1
    It's too late to issue warnings.
    It is necessary to act already for a long time in anticipation.
    Plus on important objects Ruins.
    The time for persuasion is long gone.
    Negotiation time too.
    Only result, result and result!
    It was possible to regret earlier.
    The night of July 11-12 showed that they were preparing and wanted to make an analogue of June 2, 2014, a strike on the Luhansk Administration, when many civilians died.
    There are no words about tonight, only emotions.
    Warriors of steadfastness, peaceful forces, heads of intelligence.
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 12 July 2022 07: 53
    -6
    Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked Nova Kakhovka with missiles of the American HIMARS complex
    . Modern strike systems, the target, for air defense, is complex. The most real limitation is the availability of a stock of these systems and ammunition for them!
    Unfortunately, the Westerners took the path of supplying the rabid Nazis with such weapons, hoping that they would not receive answers .... but this is a BOOMERANG and it will definitely return, most likely in a three-story or larger one.
    1. Chronos
      Chronos 12 July 2022 08: 28
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked Nova Kakhovka with missiles of the American HIMARS complex
      . Modern strike systems, the target, for air defense, is complex. The most real limitation is the availability of a stock of these systems and ammunition for them!
      Unfortunately, the Westerners took the path of supplying the rabid Nazis with such weapons, hoping that they would not receive answers .... but this is a BOOMERANG and it will definitely return, most likely in a three-story or larger one.

      Dill cannot be denied cunning. There was information that at first they strain the air defense with conventional MLRS, and then they hit with Khaimaris.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 July 2022 08: 52
        0
        There are different ways to deal with such threats, of varying degrees of effectiveness .... BUT, there is nothing more reliable than your tanks at airfields and other places where a threat may come from! Alas and ah, we will have to stop such a threat by the old methods. It's not fast unfortunately.
  14. Dikson
    Dikson 12 July 2022 08: 27
    +3
    This was bound to happen sooner or later .. Because you need to fight in a modern way, with smart technologies and products, With echeloned intelligence .. and we are still trying, as in the Great Patriotic War, with tank wedges and bombing ... pain points, headquarters and leading officers .. Learn, after all, military affairs in a real way! .. I do not understand the "indignation" of local respondents .. in the spirit of - "what are we for?" Guys. There is a war going on. The fact that our leadership calls what is happening differently is for international institutions, such as the UN and others .. And in a war, the enemy uses all means that are possible. Civilians, not civilians .. Otherwise, it turns out that Ukrainians are cunning and bad, because artillery and air defense systems are placed in residential areas in shopping centers, and we are good, although we often have warehouses and complexes near the residential area .. Carefully, more carefully..
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 12 July 2022 08: 43
      -6
      Well, go and teach more carefully, what's stopping you?
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 12 July 2022 13: 06
        +1
        Are you questioning the competence of our General Staff and military leaders, since you invite me to do their work? I am extremely proud of your generous offer, but I'm not going to go where there are already enough leaders ..
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 12 July 2022 13: 18
          -2
          Well done, bravo!! The highest class of the demagogue!!!
    2. Orik
      Orik 12 July 2022 09: 37
      -3
      and we are still trying, as in the Great Patriotic War, with tank wedges and bombardments

      If only the mechanisms of WW1 could be recreated so far.
      Killing battalions of “private traders”, “barsiks”, “ahmatok”, and, of course, Donetsk and Lugansk residents, slowly and painfully realize that it is necessary to establish interaction between infantry and artillery, reinvent all the bikes of the First and Second World Wars on this topic.
  15. Dmitriy444
    Dmitriy444 12 July 2022 08: 29
    0
    How many more warehouses need to be destroyed for the logistics services of the Moscow Region to draw conclusions? Maybe it's time for them to tell that there are satellites and reconnaissance, that the times of the Y-points are over?
  16. barbiturate
    barbiturate 12 July 2022 08: 42
    -1
    Again, the American Hymars were guided by American satellites using GPS, and again at the target of uncovered air defense.
  17. Chikua
    Chikua 12 July 2022 09: 11
    +5
    I watched the video on Telegram. Epanul is significant ...
  18. vovochkarzhevsky
    vovochkarzhevsky 12 July 2022 09: 34
    0
    Now, again, fairy tales on the topic will go around the box - these are deliberate provocations so that our troops go into suicidal attacks on the prepared defenses, therefore they cannot be succumbed to.
    But our strategists forget one thing, if you don’t respond to one provocation, you will get another, a third, and so on. And why should a frontal defense attack be the answer to provocations?
    Why not completely de-energize the same Lviv, Ternopil as a response? It's not winter now, it won't freeze. But part of the most aggressive population of Ukraine, which is now choking with joy in social networks, will have time to think. After all, there will be no electricity, there will be no benefits associated with it, such as television, communications, the Internet.
    But alas, these are only dreams. I don’t want to be an alarmist, but jingoism doesn’t lead to good either. And we must look at reality, even if it is not quite attractive.
    All these "gestures of good will" show that the "party of peace" in our leadership, if not gaining the upper hand, is very strong.
    Even the fact that for our armed forces the most bloody tactics for them have been chosen is nothing but sabotage. The army fights on a tactical level, laying down the lives of soldiers for each village. The advantage in aviation is practically not used, especially strategic.
    And at the tactical level, they work in pairs, probably so that there are more losses.
    What can I say, a recent example. Our St. Petersburg mayor Beglov invites the frankly Russophobic group BI-2 and in 15 minutes pays it 4 million rubles from the city budget. As I understand it, this is a contribution to anti-Russian agitation.
  19. Amper
    Amper 12 July 2022 09: 44
    -1
    Those who continue to protect the ways and means of delivering weapons from the West to the Nazis in our top positions are the accomplices of these shellings. The blood of the victims is on their hands too!
  20. RED_ICE
    RED_ICE 12 July 2022 09: 47
    0
    NEW KAKHOVKA / Kherson region /, July 12. /TASS/. The death toll in the attack on the city of Novaya Kakhovka, Kherson region, has increased to seven people. At the moment, 70 wounded are known, said Vladimir Leontiev, head of the regional military administration.
    He noted that hundreds of people remain under rubble or blocked in houses damaged by explosions. "We have set up an aid headquarters, rescue services and ambulances are working all night. I think that the number of dead and wounded will still increase," Leontiev added.
    "We still have to dismantle the rubble, the death toll will be dozens, no less. Each warehouse had a guard (the main blow fell on the territory where the warehouses are located - TASS note). The force of the explosion was such that glass flew out in frames for many kilometers, people blocked in apartments, people who were here at their dachas (in the area adjacent to the epicenter of the shelling - TASS note) were blocked - the frames were warped, capital structures were damaged, and hundreds of people live there in the summer, in the season, "Leontyev added.
  21. iouris
    iouris 12 July 2022 10: 22
    +1
    What did you expect from them? Especially after receiving advanced artillery and missile systems. As for the fact that "Ukrainian citizens" were killed and injured, you need to be more careful. Their status is not defined, because. the state of which they were citizens does not exist.
  22. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 12 July 2022 11: 02
    -2
    I will express another seditious thought: yesterday Ze's statement about the order to liberate the south of Ukraine was vigorously discussed.
    VO regulars agreed that the Ukrainians are stupid as always, and just do, who speaks openly about offensive plans?
    But nothing, if they consciously said this with the expectation that the Russian Federation would now transfer additional troops near Kherson, and then they would gasp along the bridges in Novaya Kakhovka and Kherson with chimarsiks, leaving a huge group surrounded?
    And if the Russian Federation does not behave and does not transfer additional troops, then it’s okay too. it will be easier to knock out the one that is now in Kherson. In any case, the capture of Kherson will make a splash
    1. Chronos
      Chronos 12 July 2022 11: 32
      -2
      Quote: Bshkaus
      I will express another seditious thought: yesterday Ze's statement about the order to liberate the south of Ukraine was vigorously discussed.
      VO regulars agreed that the Ukrainians are stupid as always, and just do, who speaks openly about offensive plans?
      But nothing, if they consciously said this with the expectation that the Russian Federation would now transfer additional troops near Kherson, and then they would gasp along the bridges in Novaya Kakhovka and Kherson with chimarsiks, leaving a huge group surrounded?
      And if the Russian Federation does not behave and does not transfer additional troops, then it’s okay too. it will be easier to knock out the one that is now in Kherson. In any case, the capture of Kherson will make a splash

      There is an opinion that when making a decision on the transfer of forces to Kherson, they will look at intelligence data, since the dill will not create a strike group secretly. The bridge is not so easy to destroy even by Hymars. So far, the chances of a successful counteroffensive are slim.
  23. ugol2
    ugol2 12 July 2022 11: 56
    +9
    Eh. This has never happened before and here it is again.
  24. Adagka
    Adagka 12 July 2022 12: 58
    +1
    Quote: Semak
    These are all strikes against immovable targets. himarsy, what do you propose to hunt down and destroy?

    maybe it would have been easier to prevent their delivery to the Donbass (otherwise they drive Western equipment almost in parade columns, and something in their pants interferes with our leaders). such a simple thought is too complex for our strategists? but in general, according to all reports, everything is fine with us, the satellite constellation was created by Rogozin, Shoigu's UAVs were massively purchased, the Leader was still starting to fight like that. what's the problem with grabbing a few Hymars from destroying them?
    Solovyov, in the end, can be personally involved with Konashenkov, they are generally pros in this area. They can even upload a video in the format "from afar and in the dark" and call it "the destruction of the Hymars".
    1. Alexander Lysenko
      Alexander Lysenko 12 July 2022 13: 27
      0
      No one carries anything openly. They use civilian trucks, at night, etc.
  25. valentine light
    valentine light 12 July 2022 13: 04
    -1
    "They deliberately hit civilian targets ..."
    And all because they are definitely not afraid of the answer.
    They and the Himarsy needed to shoot at civilians, like "there is a job" for reporting to the United States and you can sell something to the side.
  26. Foundling
    Foundling 12 July 2022 14: 10
    +2
    War in white gloves is impossible. Either this is the use of all forces and means after which nothing remains of cities and towns, or it was not worth even starting. Take out a weapon, shoot. Otherwise they will take away
  27. nordscout
    nordscout 12 July 2022 14: 13
    +1
    "Kakhovka, Kakhovka, native rifle, a hot bullet flies .... " That's why the "bullet" with HIMARS? Who and how is struggling with deliveries to the HIMARS front? Or is the "run-in" of the RF Armed Forces and the local population continuing according to the "Syrian" scenario? We continue to fight "in white gloves", while maintaining logistics corridors and nodes? And will they send "Black Tulips" to Russia before the "carrot spell"? Although .... As the Supreme Commander said: "We have not started yet .... "
  28. infantrefir
    infantrefir 13 July 2022 20: 45
    +1
    Judging by information from open sources, antidotes against HIMARS and the same "Point" cannot yet be found or cannot be used