Motorcycle units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on motorcycles "Dnepr" appeared in the Donbass

Motorcycle units have been created as part of the Ukrainian army. The first pictures and videos of the Ukrainian military on Dnepr MT-11 motorcycles appeared at the end of June this year. Motorcycles with a sidecar are armed with anti-tank systems.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine began to use Dnepr motorcycles with the Metis-M anti-tank systems installed on them in the Donbass. The main task of such units is the fight against Russian armored vehicles. Motorcycles give mobility and allow you to quickly transfer groups to tank-dangerous directions, strike and retreat. According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it is effective and cheap. In Ukrainian public pages, it is stated that units appeared on motorcycles with mounted machine guns, but there are no such photos.

It is worth noting that the experience of using motorcycle units in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is far from new; during the Great Patriotic War, motorcycles were used by both sides, and motorcycle battalions appeared earlier in the Wehrmacht and existed until 1942, after which they were combined with reconnaissance ones. The first motorcycle battalions appeared in the Red Army only in 1940. Soviet units of military motorcyclists traditionally belonged to armored units, and their motorcycles were listed as armored vehicles.

In the postwar period, motorcycle companies were included in the reconnaissance battalions of motorized rifle and tank divisions. The main weapons of such companies were PK machine guns and hand grenades.

In recent years, motorcycles are gaining popularity again, this technique is massively used in local military conflicts, for example, in the Middle East. Motorcycle units reappear, but no longer battalions or companies, but small groups. In the Russian army, preference is given to ATVs and all-terrain vehicles created on their basis. The development of electric motorcycles for special forces units is also underway.

Comments

[nnm]

By and large, this is quite a logical decision. There are fewer and fewer vehicles, and if you choose to advance on foot-by-machine or on a motorcycle, then the second option is quite understandable. But the advantage is that this shows that there is a lack of equipment in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
And how they look there, who they look like - generally the tenth thing.
These animals can even be dressed up as bunnies, but as they were Nazis, they will remain so, and it’s not a matter of appearance.

[Shurik70]

Without a machine gun, they look bezpontovo.
And everyone should have sleeveless jackets, otherwise only one looks like such a "real Fritz", the rest - as if Bandera's Fritz were dressed up.

[smart ass]

Black leather trench coats

[krot]

This is a scribe), get German helmets from storage and it will really be Ukrwehrmacht.

Real Wehrmacht! But the road to them is the same)

[Chervony Biker]

This is not a "solution", but "entertainment". A motorcycle with a sidecar does not give any advantages in today's war. Many of the comparisons in the article are far-fetched.
1. All-wheel drive Dneprs "MV" were produced for the army, more precisely with a wheel drive for a sidecar. In the photo, ordinary civilian versions. You can’t drive through the forest, you have to push it out of the swamp with your hands. Heard it will be further than the tank.
2. Comparison with the Wehrmacht and the Soviet army during the war is absolutely NOT correct. At that time, there were not even close to such a number of passenger cars. Now you can assemble a bunch of Nivas, old SUVs or ordinary passenger cars. Cut off the roof, strengthen it with a makeshift frame and get a whole fleet of cheap and much more comfortable vehicles. It seems that it was precisely for this purpose that customs clearance for cars was completely abolished in Ukraine until July 1. They could buy old but still strong vehicles in Europe for literally pennies or even for nothing.
3. The experience of Syria, knows nothing about the use of motorcycles with a sidecar. Putting infantry on light enduros is interesting. Such a motorcycle cavalry. But the price of such a motorcycle, even in years, is comparable to the cost of a car. And definitely above the Niva.
4. my opinion, as a carrier of knowledge, is above average in this matter The photos are taken for the sake of the photos, and the video is made for the sake of the video.
5. The ATVs mentioned in the article, with characteristics higher than those of a teenage toy, are again very expensive. Electric motorcycles have not taken their rightful place even in civilian life. And attempts to introduce them into the army are a classic version of cutting the budget. By the way, the Ukrov-Dneprs most likely sold the Armed Forces of Ukraine more guided by their own selfish interests than by real needs. And this is good !

[Machiavelli]

They also use Banderomrbil and adopted the experience from the ISIS.

[Chervony Biker]

in short - try to imagine how they cut on a motorcycle with a sidecar through the FOREST that is behind them

[Kapkan]

God, what a cruel man...

[Wbond]

... you can still get bicycles ... I also had such an experience in WWII ...

[cat Rusich]

Quote from WBond

... you can still get bicycles ... I also had such an experience in WWII ...

In WWII it was

ChK-37 M1
37mm airborne anti-tank gun mod 1944

[Mouse]

Desperate guys - and apparently they don't understand the alternative to death. Bicycle biker battalions of Ukrainian suicide bombers - sell them on TV and zombies will sit on bicycles and talk about war. They don't care anymore - they're going to die anyway. People are in a stressful situation and they can't think straight.

[Micha456]

Already got it and drive.

[valentine light]

Without gasoline, motorcycle sidecars will be attached to the donkeys.

[Snail N9]

These? Lived up to our days?

[Romanovski]

I laughed heartily....:-)...It's a pity that VO didn't allow me to give you 10 pluses....

[Koidaki]

Local traffic cops? How are you feeling? did you use anything yesterday?

[Dimy4]

This is a scribe), get German helmets from storage and it will really be Ukrwehrmacht.

Not enough MG-42 instead of complexes.

[voyaka uh]

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have German MG-3s as part of foot anti-tank groups.

[Fat]

It's a great car, unfortunately.

[Fat]

The TV and the refrigerator are removed in the stroller. Looting is good

[Thrifty]

Another video "on the rights of advertising from the Armed Forces of Ukraine"? And where are our buggies that are being made en masse in Chechnya? They can also install anti-tank missile systems, machine guns, and light mortars! We praise the enemy, even advertise for free, it turns out, but what, can we only engage in criticism???

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Thrifty

Another video "as advertising from the APU"? And where are our buggies, what are they doing massively in Chechnya

And we have enough specialized vehicles with anti-tank systems. Motorcycles are used for these purposes not from a good life, but from a shortage of specialized equipment ...

[KVIRTU]

Actually, 3 motorcycles are shown.
Kyiv motorcycle plant stopped at 8, closed at 12. That's it.
Equipment from volunteers for the national battalions, the regular army cannot accept the equipment that has been discontinued.

[AAK]

Oh, I-I, Banderishe Geheim Stadt Feldpolizei...

[kenig1]

What does helmets have to do with it, the enemy is constantly innovating and sometimes effective, and we have to find them to stop.

[Romanovski]

Their Fuhrer is kind of weak... I mean, he has a long way to go to reach Hitler...

[sgrabik]

That's the way it is, no difference.

[Ros 56]

It still remains to attach the MG to the cradle, there will definitely be fascists. And there is no need to stand on ceremony with the fascists and no captivity.

[carpenter]

Quote: South Ukrainian

This is a scribe), get German helmets from storage and it will really be Ukrwehrmacht.

Yes, they already have a fascist yellow badge on their sleeve.

[Mavrikiy]

Motorcycle units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on motorcycles "Dnepr" appeared in the Donbass

Like 80 years ago? Even helmets like the SS have, some have.

[Grits]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Like 80 years ago?

It's better than walking. Our army doesn't even have that. And it's unlikely to be. Because the only surviving motorcycle plant in Russia, Irbitsky, produces motorcycles at the price of an armored personnel carrier. And almost everything is sold in the USA. But the suburban industry was not greedy and drove its motorcycle equipment to the ukrovermacht.

[Chronos]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Mavrikiy

Like 80 years ago?

It's better than walking. Our army doesn't even have that. And it's unlikely to be. Because the only surviving motorcycle plant in Russia, Irbitsky, produces motorcycles at the price of an armored personnel carrier. And almost everything is sold in the USA. But the suburban industry was not greedy and drove its motorcycle equipment to the ukrovermacht.

What place does the Ukrainian industry have to use the APU of old motorcycles?

[TreeSmall]

But the suburban industry was not greedy and drove its motorcycle equipment to the ukrovermacht.

It seems to be, 2010: At present, the production of motorcycles has been completely stopped, the plant is being converted into a business center, the equipment is being cut and scrapped.
Although the site exists and "produce"
http://www.kmz.com.ua/production/spec_mototsikly/50

[Mavrikiy]

Nowadays, all KMZ heavy motorcycles are collectively called "Dnepr", although the first model, which received its own name "Dnepr", Project closing year — 2012.

WIKI to help. Maxim died, and to hell with him. Last motorcycle in 2008
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/?text=Киевским%20мотоциклетным%20заводом.&path=yandex_search&parent-reqid=1657449988327429-5727947745923888073-vla1-4661-vla-l7-balancer-8080-BAL-4395&from_type=vast&filmId=13172255435484639954

[72jora72]

It's better than walking. Our army doesn't even have that. And it's unlikely to be.

Have you already visited the nearest military registration and enlistment office? Have you signed up as a volunteer? No? Are you too old and unhealthy? Then sign a contract directly in the DPR (like me), the requirements are much more lenient there. Once you sign it, write to me, and I will give you a Ural motorcycle with a sidecar, attach something to it, and you will go behind enemy lines to smash the adversary.....

[Dude]

Because the only surviving motorcycle factory in Russia, Irbitsky

The Kyiv plant, it seems, has been closed for 10 years, Irbitsky, it seems, this year, due to sanctions. Production was going to be moved to Kazakhstan, I don’t know if any of these plans have been implemented.

[Andrey VOV]

Well, as for the effectiveness, it’s doubtful ... Doubtful .. But, as they say, a nightingale without a bird and a butt.

[Alex777]

So they will reach the carts. It's also cheap and portable.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Alex777

So they will reach the carts. It's also cheap and portable.

Lisapeds are even more effective.
You don't need to feed the horses - you pedal yourself ...

[Chronos]

Quote: Alex777

So they will reach the carts. It's also cheap and portable.

Already arrived. Full of videos of bandermobiles and bandertrucks - why not a cart of the 21st century?

[Skipper]

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[rocket757]

Motorcycle units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on motorcycles "Dnepr" appeared in the Donbass

. It was ... what outweighs, minuses or pluses, this is which side to look at.

[cniza]

Good time!

Practice will show...

[rocket757]

Hi
If something new was tested, otherwise it already happened.
Ersatz troops, this is already from poverty, otherwise it is difficult to understand.

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

Good time!

Practice will show...

Working machine. Mobility improves unambiguously, compared to those who walk. The Ural was simpler and more reliable in operation. The spokes on the rear wheel break three to five a day with more or less normal driving.
The enemy of cross-country ability is dry sand. Once on a site with dry sand of 500 meters, I skidded for half a day.

[sabakina]

Is the motorcycle factory in Dnipro still alive?

[Robert Cooler]

Under the USSR, they did so much that so far everything has not gone under pressure. They don't need documents, any motorcycle with a sidecar is a fighting unit. In the villages you can still collect for a long time.

[private person]

In the villages you can still collect for a long time.

So earlier, in our country, the Ural and Dnepr motorcycles, as well as the Niva and UAZ all-terrain vehicles, were registered in the military registration and enlistment offices.

[gansales]

Quote: sabakina

Is the motorcycle factory in Dnipro still alive?

Scholz supplied them from stocks ..

[isv000]

Quote: sabakina

Is the motorcycle factory in Dnipro still alive?

The people were taken away. Motorcycles and jeeps with trucks are registered in the military enlistment offices...

[sabakina]

In the days of my military registration, yes, "Ural" and "Dnepr" were registered. As of now, I don't know. To meet on the road "Ural" is to meet as an alien.

[Grits]

Quote: sabakina

Is the motorcycle factory in Dnipro still alive?

The plant seemed to be in Kyiv. But he's also surprised he's alive. Maybe from stocks and warehouses?

[Chervony Biker]

no. and for a very long time. these are from storage or finished civilian ones

[Eug]

He was alive in Dnepropetrovsk a couple of years ago, collecting "Chinese" under his own brand. Well, the motorcycles "Dnepr" were assembled in Kyiv, the plant "died" in 2011, but met the Dnieper in 2016 (as in the registration certificate). Perhaps it was assembled somewhere in a private workshop that has the appropriate license.

[gansales]

Motorcycle units have been created as part of the Ukrainian army.

Not bad... Our sabotage and reconnaissance groups will meet such people and shoot them with pleasure, I remember my grandfathers and great-grandfathers in WWII...
I wouldn't be surprised if combat camels soon appear in Ukraine as aid...

Our motivations are more and more and the goals are so pleasant, you can already see from the silhouettes that they are not ours ..

[isv000]

Shaitan-arba ... So that's what you are! ..

[Grits]

Quote from gansales

Not bad .. Our DRGs will meet such people and shoot them with pleasure

Do you think that the Khokhlyatsky DRGs are worse trained and worse armed, that they must be shot? If such equivalent DRGs meet, then, unlike ours, they are on wheels. Anything is better than walking.

[Paladin]

Are you sure which is better? Do they have the Dnieper already on electricity, or can you hear this rattle from a kilometer away? Or do you think that dill needs another DRG so that our DRGs secretly fill their ears with wax at night?

[Machiavelli]

Here VO had an article about electric bikes from Ukrainian DRGs.

[gansales]

Quote: Gritsa

Do you think that the Khokhlyatsky DRGs are worse trained and worse armed, that they must be shot?

No I do not think so ..

Quote: Gritsa

If such equivalent DRGs meet, then, unlike ours, they are on wheels. Anything is better than walking.

Well, ours, too, may not be on foot .. This is not the Caucasus and they can communicate on the move and have the necessary documents ..
Your blood is being shed in vain... Russia will take Kyiv anyway, etc.! Your cabal does not suit us..

[Repellent]

Quote: Gritsa

If such equivalent DRGs meet, then unlike ours, they are on wheels

A motorcycle needs a road, or at least something like it. You can walk with your feet wherever you want.
The motorcycle needs a zebin. Where do you think to refuel in enemy territory?

Quote: Gritsa

Anything is better than walking

Well, well

[Grits]

Quote: Repellent

A motorcycle needs a road, or at least something like it. You can walk with your feet wherever you want.
The motorcycle needs a zebin. Where do you think to refuel in enemy territory?

I have been riding motorcycles since I was young. And in the taiga (hunting, fishing, rooting) a motorcycle is the most indispensable tool. Believe me, even off-road the motorcycle can ride quite well. It can be loaded with all sorts of belongings. And anyway, it's better than dragging everything on foot.

[Chronos]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote from gansales

Not bad .. Our DRGs will meet such people and shoot them with pleasure

Do you think that the Khokhlyatsky DRGs are worse trained and worse armed, that they must be shot? If such equivalent DRGs meet, then, unlike ours, they are on wheels. Anything is better than walking.

Our DRGs move in cars or armored vehicles. Is there a video. Walking only in the woods.

[Romanovski]

""... Do you think that the Khokhlyatsky DRGs are worse trained and worse armed, that they must be shot? ..."".
They are well armed and trained well (not trained ...) - AGAINST THE RUSSIANS AS SUCH ... But with a conscience and brains - they really suck ...

[opposite28]

Motorcycle units have been created as part of the Ukrainian army. The first pictures and videos of the Ukrainian military on Dnepr MT-11 motorcycles appeared at the end of June this year. Motorcycles with a sidecar are armed with anti-tank systems. The Armed Forces of Ukraine began to use Dnepr motorcycles with the Metis-M anti-tank systems installed on them in the Donbass. The main task of such units is the fight against Russian armored vehicles. Motorcycles give mobility and allow you to quickly transfer groups to tank-dangerous directions, strike and retreat. According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it is effective and cheap. In Ukrainian public pages, it is stated that units appeared on motorcycles with mounted machine guns, but there are no such photos.

Horsemen of the apocalypse, about cheap and effective without a doubt, and most importantly quickly. The main thing is to pick up the helmets more beautifully, approximately like the Teutonic Knights, but with pixel camouflage.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

The next step is cycle rickshaws.

[cniza]

Motorcycle units have been created as part of the Ukrainian army.

Whatever it was, they continue to be motivated to resist ...

[isv000]

Quote: cniza

Whatever it was, they continue to be motivated to resist ...

Well, what do you want, they, although corrupted, are still Russian ... And motivation must be reduced by increasing pressure, followed by mandatory burial ...

[Genry]

Quote: isv000

And motivation must be reduced by increasing pressure, followed by mandatory burial ...

These are the ones who won't wait for the graveyard. The motorcycle is an excellent means of jumping up and retreating - these are not trench troops that are smeared with artillery.
In the LPR and DPR they used quad bikes, but the tandem arrangement was inconvenient for using weapons on the fly. Good for sniper pairs and nothing more.
The best option is a buggy - more carrying capacity, there is a gunner's seat next to the driver and a place for the top turret. A crew of 3-4 people is more convenient for solving problems and has greater survivability.

[The collective farm is voluntary.]

Judging by the photo, the ATGMs are not secured to the sidecar in any way, they are simply transported. And using a motorcycle to deliver them to their positions is a completely acceptable solution.

[duschman80-81]

Have you heard anything about bicycles?

[Emergency]

I think it won't work for them either. From imported jeeps, our non-brothers were transferred to motorcycles, and they will also transfer them to bicycles and scooters.

[gansales]

Quote: duschman80-81

Have you heard anything about bicycles?

It seems that Scholz began deliveries ..)))

[isv000]

Until 1941, there was a division of fighting elks in the Red Army. Just right, and the name does not need to be changed ...

[duschman80-81]

I won’t be surprised if war camels appear soon in Ukraine as help.

And horses...

[Miller]

It's more convenient on a horse. He will not let you down at an unnecessary moment. "Flies" loaded and forward to the tanks. And it’s better on a camel and you don’t need to feed.

[value]

The widespread use of powerful and light means of destruction for armored vehicles significantly strengthens infantrymen and makes it possible to use previously forgotten tactics. And therefore, it seems quite logical to use not only motorcycles, but also cavalry units, for example, to organize ambushes, eliminate tank breakthroughs, and reconnaissance. The horse does not need roads, it can go through any ravines, wooded areas, in short, everywhere where even a tank cannot pass.

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: Snail N9

These? Lived up to our days?

Well, faces ... the hand automatically reaches for the grenade.

[AAK]

No, well, normal boys ... the one behind the wheel is almost one to one similar to Hitler's "traffic police officer" from the comedy "Hitler Kaput" ...

[Emergency]

All these "innovations" are not from a good life.

[Petrik66]

for them it's still a game - a reconstruction... It would be educational to film what remains of these brothers after meeting with real units from Russia.

[Miller]

This "device" at any moment can stall and flatly refuse to start (its bitter experience of ownership), so you will have to run away on your own two feet.

[Paladin]

Oh, what a fear. What are they missing Ah, I remembered, leather coats and badges of the Feljandarmerie

[Li17]

Quote: Gritsa

It's better than walking. Our army doesn't even have that. And it's unlikely to be. Because the only surviving motorcycle factory in Russia,

As far as I know from conversations with my former colleagues on the other side, they don't have any motorcycle factory. As usual, they got them out of the sheds (my friends have a Dnepr, nobody needs it, it's a pain in the ass), restored them and went ahead. We're no better when it comes to bikes, what can you argue about, but still, a quad bike would be better for combat!

[Puzoter]

Well, how to say, hemorrhoids. Yes, care was needed, but the mot itself is strength. Very charismatic.

[Waterways 672]

About 10 years ago, a friend of the ensign-border guard had a Ural in official use, a wheelchair. Prapor was the deputy head of the outpost for work with the population.

[koramax81]

for lack of a cook....

[kill the fascist]

It doesn’t pull on a child prodigy, and in some cases it can add mobility to infantry.

[Puzoter]

Where did they get the Dnieper, they have not been produced for many years.

[Alexander X]

Where did they get the Dnieper, they have not been produced for many years.
From storage-mob.reserve. Not so long ago, in Russia, some of the bikes from the mobile reserve were sold. Urals of distant years of release. With a wheelchair. Wanted to buy one for myself. Didn't grow together So I drive a yamaha...

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Gritsa

for the price of an armored personnel carrier.

Yes.
They are in demand in Hollywood. B. Pitt has our bridge with a sidecar. Still, decades of Yeltsinism ruined a lot of what the hunchback did not kill

[GNM]

Bicycles will come soon.

[Konnick]

During the Great Patriotic War, we had 7 guards separate motorcycle regiments. They consisted of 4 companies, despite this they were very effective in battle. It suffices to name a few:

1st Separate Guards Motorcycle Dniester Red Banner Order of Alexander Nevsky Regiment.

2nd separate guards motorcycle Yartsevsky Red Banner Order of Suvorov, Alexander Nevsky regiment.

5th Separate Guards Warsaw-Berlin Red Banner, Red Star and Suvorov Motorcycle Reconnaissance Regiment.

7th Separate Guards Motorcycle Lviv Order of Suvorov, Kutuzov, Bogdan Khmelnitsky and Alexander Nevsky Regiment.

There are few other parts with such well-deserved awards. And in the 2nd Guards, the personnel of an entire company was simultaneously awarded the Order of Glory.

[AndreyVV]

you can also provide jumpers, just apply a spotted color and
dill flags

[iouris]

For every motorcycle - Iskander ... This is crazy money!

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

There are other means for this.
Or do you think that Iskanders are used to the right and left? ))

[hhurik]

There were times

[Albert Brecht]

In my garage, an old Minsk, bought with the money I earned myself during school holidays, is disassembled and assembled like a Kalashnikov assault rifle before each trip. The only plus is that even lying in bed at night, you know exactly in which direction your young growth is at the moment!

[GNM]

Here is the best application for motorcycles:

[Eug]

I suspect that now there will be just a stream of 4x4 vehicles from Western Europe, where you have to pay for its disposal, but here any one will do, if only it could drive 20-100 km. And l / s will be armed not with Mestizos, which involve the reusable use of launchers and, therefore, returning "to the base" to replenish the ammo, but with disposable grenade launchers - shot back - threw it and fled ... small groups have repeatedly proven effectiveness when leaving the encirclement .. .

[Dmitry Karabanov]

This has already happened in Ukraine

[Alexey Brylev]

As far as I remember, they tried to do this even in the Soviet army. Put anti-tank systems on a motorcycle. But it didn't stick.

[Li17]

Quote: Waterways 672

Ural was in official use, the carriage was leading.

URAL will be torn off with hands, but nobody needs DNEPR!

[Arkady007]

In our country, it seems like the Chechens invented something similar on ATVs (sort of like Borz). If it works, you need to learn from the enemy.

[Sergey Tankist]

Pi-pets! Soon they will switch to carts ...

[mojohed2012]

There were also bicycle infantry units in history, for example, during the general offensive on the Hindenburg line in 2018 by allied forces.
There were no mobile troops to pursue the retreating enemy, bicycles were introduced.

[Oleg Mazur_2]

you can attach a slingshot to the bike

[IVZ]

In the 90s ... 2000s, the Military Parade magazine contained an article about the intention of the RF Armed Forces to purchase Ural motorcycles with anti-tank systems, I don’t remember whose development. The goal is like supporting Irbit and I don’t know how it ended. It seems to fade quickly. In general, nothing new.

[Nord11]

Boys, switch to lasapeds - you don’t need fuel, plus you pump up your legs for a better drape ..

[Tarasios]

Quote: South Ukrainian

This is a disaster), get German helmets from storage and it will be a real Ukrainian Wehrmacht.

and supply each crew with a harmonica...

[7 poplar]

soon they will start driving Tachanki with Maxims ....

[av58]

The right approach. This is something like a modern cart, but a quad is more promising.

[eco]

From Belgium hello to Russian friends, I want to give my opinion and the more I learn about these Ukrainians and their dirty society of perverted and brainwashed idiots, the clearer it becomes that these people have a complete mess in their heads, drug abuse and fighting cocktails manifest in their anachronistic and delusional philosophy of revived Nazism. The more you watch these people, the more I become convinced that there is an urgent need for the complete eradication and sterilization of these people, all their female colleagues must be sterilized for life, their children are taken away, and re-education is a good start for them, I only expressing my opinion, but I believe that this can be implemented, especially considering all these AZOV AIDAR C14, and these politicians involved in this should also be hanged high and dry thanks and glory to Russia,

[valentine light]

Well, it’s not new, you need to read more memoirs of veterans and reports on combat opposition during the war by the motorcycle units of the German fascists.
For example, before an ambush by the DRG, motorcyclists are helpless without armor and maneuverability.
Glory and memory to our WWII veterans.

[Kapany3]

Quote: Red Biker

This is not a "solution", but "entertainment". A motorcycle with a sidecar does not give any advantages in today's war. Many of the comparisons in the article are far-fetched.
1. All-wheel drive Dneprs "MV" were produced for the army, more precisely with a wheel drive for a sidecar. In the photo, ordinary civilian versions. You can’t drive through the forest, you have to push it out of the swamp with your hands. Heard it will be further than the tank.
2. Comparison with the Wehrmacht and the Soviet army during the war is absolutely NOT correct. At that time, there were not even close to such a number of passenger cars. Now you can assemble a bunch of Nivas, old SUVs or ordinary passenger cars. Cut off the roof, strengthen it with a makeshift frame and get a whole fleet of cheap and much more comfortable vehicles. It seems that it was precisely for this purpose that customs clearance for cars was completely abolished in Ukraine until July 1. They could buy old but still strong vehicles in Europe for literally pennies or even for nothing.
3. The experience of Syria, knows nothing about the use of motorcycles with a sidecar. Putting infantry on light enduros is interesting. Such a motorcycle cavalry. But the price of such a motorcycle, even in years, is comparable to the cost of a car. And definitely above the Niva.
4. my opinion, as a carrier of knowledge, is above average in this matter The photos are taken for the sake of the photos, and the video is made for the sake of the video.
5. The ATVs mentioned in the article, with characteristics higher than those of a teenage toy, are again very expensive. Electric motorcycles have not taken their rightful place even in civilian life. And attempts to introduce them into the army are a classic version of cutting the budget. By the way, the Ukrov-Dneprs most likely sold the Armed Forces of Ukraine more guided by their own selfish interests than by real needs. And this is good !

You don’t even have basic knowledge, I’m not talking about understanding the topic. So all "a lot of letters" past the cash register. Ask at your leisure a resident of a village far from the roads what he would prefer, and you will be surprised HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW AND UNDERSTAND.

[valentine light]

Yes, there is information in 1 News about the Dnepr 16 M motorcycle, which, unlike the Dnepr 11M, the 16 M model has a sidecar wheel drive.

But maneuverability, increased noise leave much to be desired, just not for a motorcycle during military operations.
In 1945, the German command transferred the Hitler Youth to bicycles with special baskets for
"faust cartridges" - It did not help, although there was some mobility.

[mojohed2012]

History repeats itself. The Panzergrenadiers on motorcycles are returning. Like in the 40s.

[ivan2022]

What? Instead of horses, dispersed motorcycles with machine guns with armor protection. Is that worse than all together in an infantry fighting vehicle?
It still needs to be thought about....

[valentine light]

This is designed for the layman exalted ...

From the side of the "sofa expert" and housewives, it looks
really impressive and dashing "in a kozyak way", but combat use is a little different.
It is impossible to shoot on the move from an anti-tank system on a motorcycle, since preparation and free space at the back of 6 meters are necessary.

If detected on the march from the air or by a reconnaissance group, it will be impossible to escape from small arms or shrapnel, which will lead to an increased failure of personnel, compared to moving on an armored personnel carrier.
Well, the heavy fire support vehicle "Terminator", according to rumors, is designed to detect and destroy ATGM operators and grenade launchers with an optical system.
Bravado, but I doubt it's practical.

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Is there not enough money for Japanese jeeps? You need to steal less))

[blackcat]

And it’s also good against a tank with a sword drawn on a horse, hurray for the attack

[valentine light]

So first we need to breed the horses, where are they after all the "corn reforms"?
But it is easier for "Extraction" to swim across the river with a horse than with a "Dnepr MT 11" motorcycle :))