Ukraine received a batch of 60-mm mortar mines produced in Taiwan

Taiwan joined the list of countries supplying weapon and ammunition to Ukraine, territorial defense units received a batch of 60-mm mortar mines made in Taiwan. This is reported by the Ukrainian press.

According to Military Portal, Ukraine received a batch of mines for 60-mm Serbian-made mortars used by territorial defense. As it turned out, all the mines were made in Taiwan. The demonstration of ammunition was made at one of the military training grounds, where the units of the "Zaporozhye Separate Territorial Defense Brigade" were trained.

Speaking of "Serbian 60-mm mortars", the Ukrainian edition probably means the Yugoslav 60-mm mortar M57, which is still produced in Serbia and is in service with the Special Brigade of the Serbian Armed Forces. Serbia itself does not supply weapons and ammunition to Ukraine, but it is reliably known that after 2014, Kyiv received batches of Serbian weapons and ammunition through companies from European countries, in particular the Czech Republic and Poland. In 2019, the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass used Serbian-made 60-mm M73HE mines.

What is good about the Serbian mortar is that it can use all types of 60-mm mortar ammunition. However, due to the small number of mortars, they are only in service with the territorial defense of Ukraine. The mortar weighs 19,7 kg, the crew is three people - the crew commander, gunner and loader, the rate of fire is 25-30 rounds per minute, the maximum firing range is 2537 meters.

According to the Ukrainian publication, mines produced in Taiwan could have ended up in Ukraine along with ammunition from the United States, since Taiwan itself does not supply direct supplies to Ukraine, especially weapons.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

Ukraine received a batch of 60-mm mortar mines produced in Taiwan

Congratulations to Taiwan, will soon arrive from us. Let's put some kind of crap in the PRC and it will be very painful. Sunshine, and they will treat their hemorrhoids.

[Chemodan]

CBT still needs to be taken there, it's an island

[Spring fluff]

Is it worth it to seriously discuss frank nonsense. Taiwan, we can't do anything. We can help China at most with cheap supplies of raw materials, but we are already trying to do this, it is in our mutual interests.

[Shurik70]

Well why can't we.
Taiwan supplies a lot of electronics to the whole world.
And now he "imposed sanctions" on Russia - he does not sell chips to us. I had to buy from China.
So you need everything that you can buy NOT in Taiwan, do not buy there.

[Spring fluff]

deep thought. did you try to work it out? in a practical way? even study the issue.
Taiwan's total exports last year were $450 billion, for comparison, the Russian Federation - $490 billion.
At the same time, our trade turnover with them is 5 billion: 3 billion exports from the Russian Federation and 2 billion exports from Taiwan.
Those. we buy from them about 0,5% of their total exports. our mutual influence is minimal.

https://russian-trade.com/reports-and-reviews/2022-02/torgovlya-mezhdu-rossiey-i-tayvanem-v-2021-g/
https://translated.turbopages.org/proxy_u/en-ru.ru.dfeb7aeb-62cb0f96-2623022d-74722d776562/https/www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-07/taiwan-s-2021-exports-soar-to-record-446-billion-on-tech-demand

[Shurik70]

Quote: Spring Fluff

our mutual influence is minimal.

So it remains only to actively support China in its principle of One China.

[Spring fluff]

I agree, I already wrote about this
and in general it would not hurt to learn from the Chinese

[donavi49]

So you need everything that you can buy NOT in Taiwan, do not buy there.

But Taiwan does not sell. Taking into account the current crisis of chips (not only in consumer goods), they replaced Taiwan with all the capacities for 10 years in advance and the released percentage of supplies in a couple of hours.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote from Chemodan

CBT still needs to be taken there, it's an island

Are you going to war with Taiwan? Congratulations. I think China will solve this problem itself.

[gansales]

Yes, just support the Chinese comrades, like drive our squadron to Taiwan for cover .. And the Chinese will do everything themselves quickly!

[Spring fluff]

squadron of what? Have you seen the composition of the Pacific Fleet? what can be sent there, not to mention the fact that it was without prejudice to defense capability. Varangian and submarines

[isv000]

Quote from gansales

Yes, just support the Chinese comrades, like drive our squadron to Taiwan for cover .. And the Chinese will do everything themselves quickly!

The Chins have a good fleet. These sly-eyed stupidly wait by the river when someone's corpse floats by, ours or the EU, and when, finally, the FSA finally stumbles ...

[private person]

Let's put China on some kind of crap and it will be very painful

Just the PRC does not need to supply anything; they themselves have a lot of things. Just a little hint to the Chinese that the time has come to take over Taiwan.

[Spring fluff]

otherwise the Chinese, without us, do not understand when it is time and when it is not. I think they behave smarter than us. first the development of the economy, then the armed forces, and so far they are in no hurry to fight.

[runway-1]

Yes, the Chinese leadership behaves prudently, does not get involved in open conflicts, and consistently develops its economy and armed forces...

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Russia should give full support to China in regaining control over Taiwan.

[gansales]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

Russia should give full support to China in regaining control over Taiwan.

And Russia has such an opportunity !!

[Hypertension]

Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5

Russia should give full support to China in regaining control over Taiwan.

[isv000]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

Russia should give full support to China in regaining control over Taiwan.

Russia must provide maximum support to its people, including in the liberated territories. And those "allies" who are now holding their nose to the wind, and not standing shoulder to shoulder, can go through the forest, after the Victory! ..

[runway-1]

Before providing support to the PRC, first find out if its leadership supported us in Crimea and NVO ...

[Heaven]

Yes, here already Taiwan is more than Taiwan is less unimportant. And without it, almost all developed countries supply weapons to Ukraine. Someone missiles and tanks. Some are just trucks and first-aid kits, but they are also needed in the war. At depletion, this SVO cannot be completed only on the battlefield. No matter how great the Soviet resources for attrition are, it is hopeless to fight with the entire conditional West. There, even Australia from the ends of the world supplies something.

[Emergency]

Yes, you are a strategist. Right up to the sky. Heiven, by the way, is consonant with the Turkic word hayvan. True, the translation is not very heavenly.

[Heaven]

The strategists propose to fight slowly with a barrage of fire, extrusion and small boilers, freeing 1000 square kilometers per month and waiting until Ukraine runs out of soldiers. To pick up a calculator and calculate that it will last for decades, religion probably does not allow them. It will really be a war of attrition, who will run out of resources first.

To know the future, it is enough to look into the past. There are examples of positional trench warfare, the same WWI. It is not the best army that wins there, but who ran out of ammunition last and the rear endured longer.

[Ros 56]

If this were true, then I would agree with you. But alas, the West is dealing with jumpers, and they shook. Therefore, they sell part of it to the side, part goes to supply the LDNR and ours, part is destroyed. So, how it will be there in reality, the grandmother said in two.

[private person]

Therefore, they sell part to the side,

Well, that's what they tell us. And it is not surprising that they supply as much as they cannot even master.

[Ros 56]

Well, that's what they tell us.

Can you prove otherwise? I'll prove it to the barrel.

[private person]

Can you prove otherwise? I'll prove it to the barrel.

Can you provide? Note, I did not claim, but only voiced the information conveyed to us. There may be cases, but they are not as widespread as we would like. But again, neither you nor we can prove it.

[Thrifty]

Then, I want to wish the Chinese to take back Taiwan by force of arms. And, through the Chinese, we "asked" from those who supplied mines to the Nazis!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Thrifty

Then, I want to wish the Chinese to take back Taiwan by force of arms. And, through the Chinese, we "asked" from those who supplied mines to the Nazis!

China is only looking at how Russia is solving the issue with Ukraine so far, in order to learn from the best and apply this experience in relation to Taiwan, given the lack of a land border. So for now they are only writing notes, in the hope that Taiwan, watching what is happening with Ukraine, will suddenly decide to return to China voluntarily. But the fact that Taiwanese mines lit up in Ukraine was probably done by mattresses in order to sparkle Russian-Chinese relations, because. Russia considers Taiwan to be part of China, and this issue will most likely be raised at the diplomatic level, they say, put things in order there if this is your territory.

[Rusticolus]

With Taiwan, the situation is quite different. Yes, China does not have a land border, but other countries have the same. And given that China, like many other countries, consider Taiwan to be part of China, it turns out that the maritime border of Taiwan is also formally Chinese. Well, how can they and who then dare to put at least something if any ship that crosses the border is perceived by China as an attack on its territory. Considering that Chinese coastal anti-ship systems, directly from the mainland, shoot through the entire Taiwan through and through, then importing something into Taiwan by sea during a database with China is a form of suicide. Taiwan has little chance in this confrontation, because immediately at the beginning it will receive a complete naval blockade. And he won't last long alone.

[Nyrobsky]

This is all clear, you wrote everything correctly, but I had a little different in mind, namely the specifics of the operation. If Russia conducts NMD by introducing a military contingent into the territory of Ukraine on dry land, then the Chinese will have to do this with a landing across the strait.

[Rusticolus]

So Yes. I said, in some ways it will be more difficult, but in some ways it will be easier. If the landing still land and gain a foothold, then Taiwan Khan. Well, if not ... Again, China has nowhere to rush, it can even iron Taiwan from the mainland until it turns blue, and then repeat the landing attempt. Well, or immediately begin to act according to this scheme. First, powerful artillery preparation and only then landing. I think China is now looking not at the general tactics of maintaining a database in Ukraine. With this, in general, everything is clear. They look more at how the West will react to all this.

[bombaher]

Then Taiwan or China should make an official statement that they are not supplying anything and explain how their weapons end up in third countries. Stop selling weapons to those who cannot keep track of them or resell (give away).
There was nothing of this.
Moreover, Taiwan has joined the sanctions against us.
Is it enough?

[Mikhail Maslov]

Before expressing and writing your dissatisfaction, read the article. And it is clearly written there that Taiwan does not supply weapons and ammunition to Ukraine. The mortar is clearly for the DRG.

[Andrey Moskvin]

So in the article oil oil. First they write, Taiwan has joined the list of countries supplying weapons. At the end it says that he does not supply.

[Paladin]

Taiwan joins the list of countries supplying weapons and ammunition to Ukraine

Soon our authors will add penguins in Antarctica to the list of countries supplying weapons to Ukraine. And by the way, us too. Mi-17s were delivered to Ukraine, and who cares that the delivery was made by the United States without our consent.
Maybe focus not on the manufacturer, but on a specific supplier?

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Paladin

But on a specific supplier?

Here he is to fill his face!

[Paladin]

Board with nails.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Paladin

Board with nails.

Hats, or points?

[Chief Officer Lom]

Quote: Paladin

Maybe focus not on the manufacturer, but on a specific supplier?

Diplomacy is such a thing: whoever benefits, that's what you should focus on, or not notice at all. In this case, we can provide China with a formally legitimate pretext for an operation in Taiwan - the criminal separatist government of Taiwan finances and arms Nazis and terrorists in Ukraine.

[runway-1]

Do you seriously think that China needs from us "a formally legitimate reason for an operation in Taiwan" ???

[Chief Officer Lom]

I think the question is stupid. Of course, China will not wait for our help in this, moreover, this incident as a reason for the "final solution of the Taiwan issue" is not enough. But having collected several such incidents, it is possible to scrape together a justification for conducting a Taiwan operation, so to speak, "in aggregate". And in the international relations created by the brazen USA, after all these test tubes and confessions of organ and drug dealers as freedom fighters, it is enough for the accusations to be loud, and the facts cited as evidence to exist at least formally, and the fact that they may not be enough or they can be explained differently is no longer essential.

[runway-1]

More than a strange answer ... But my question was strictly addressed to your very "smart" comment.

[Chief Officer Lom]

Your question is provocative. Does China really need our help? From the same series - but what, Russia without the help of China will not cope (weakly)? And the top of such questions, can it cope poorly without someone's help? To use someone's help, if there is no meanness behind it, is not shameful, and it is stupid to refuse opportunities, just because "we will get along anyway."

[runway-1]

Unnecessary words. I sinfully thought that your proposal was either not very smart or provocative, that's why I asked the question! Now it's even more confusing...

[The collective farm is voluntary.]

Well, when will the Ministry of Defense report at least ONE destroyed convoy with military imports right at the entrance to Ukraine from Europe ???
It is clear that ammunition can be disguised as civilian cargo, but how can you not see huge self-propelled guns and multiple rocket launchers? Or is there a real problem with reconnaissance...

[Iris]

Why not ask "brother" Vučić how the Serbian mortars turned out to be on the border? Yes, in each company?

[The collective farm is voluntary.]

Rather not Serbian, but still Yugoslav, and you will have to ask any Montenegro

[Ingvar7401]

This is Japanese ammo.