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An attempt by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to apply a new tactic near Seversk slowed down the pace of the offensive of the allied forces

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The offensive of the allied forces continues, there are no big changes in the situation on the line of contact, the enemy is putting up fierce resistance. Despite this, units of the Russian army and NM of the republics continue to put pressure, knocking out Ukrainian nationalists from their positions.


The main events are now developing in the Slavyansk direction, as well as in the Seversk region. According to available information, coming directly from the front line, in Bogorodichnoye, ours continue to put pressure on the enemy, taking the settlement under control. But in the area of ​​​​the Valley and Krasnopolye, fierce battles are going on, the enemy has rested and is trying to prevent the development of an offensive against Slavyansk from the north.

It is reported that the enemy is suffering heavy losses, Russian artillery is working almost around the clock, the attack is supported from the air aviation. Near Seversk, the enemy tried to use a new tactic, which brought him some success, the offensive of the allied forces slowed down. The tactics are very simple: the Armed Forces of Ukraine leave small settlements and retreat, while concentrating forces in forest plantations around settlements. At the entrance to the abandoned village, ours fall into the fire bag, the Armed Forces of Ukraine hit at the already targeted coordinates. After a couple of such ambushes, the pace of the offensive dropped, now our artillery combs all the forest belts where the enemy is found.


Reports about the capture of Grigorovka and the detour of Seversk from the north turned out to be premature, fighting was going on in this area. There is success in Verkhnekamenskoye. The enemy is still concentrating forces in the Seversk region, according to Ukrainian sources, Zelensky insists on continuing the defense of this city, despite its unfavorable location. The General Staff is opposed, but everything is going to the fact that Seversk will repeat the fate of Lisichansk - there will be many losses on the part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and a hasty flight.

As previously reported, the enemy is building defense along the line: Seversk - Bakhmut (Artemovsk) - Soledar. Now all three key settlements are under the threat of capture by Russian troops, the offensive is actively developing, despite the enemy's attempts to stop it. At the same time, the redeployment of units that participated in the liberation of the territory of the LPR is being carried out.
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  1. Cartalon
    Cartalon 8 July 2022 09: 57
    +40
    In short, the breaking of resistance did not happen, while we gnaw through one line, the enemy is preparing the next one.
    1. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 8 July 2022 10: 05
      +19
      only now 90% of the drugs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no combat experience, and every day there is a decrease in drugs
      up to 500 soldiers are irretrievably knocked out, and no one counts the wounded at all
      in the first line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, those who have combat experience have 5000 left
      - these are Natsiks, Special Forces, mercenaries, Armed Forces, territorial defense
      and this is on a 1000 km front
      they are then grinded daily, although the lion's losses are recruits
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        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 8 July 2022 10: 12
          +24
          There is no army of millions there.
        2. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 8 July 2022 10: 16
          +17
          mercenaries who will rush to Ukraine.
          They are now tearing more FROM Ukraine. Safari failed wassat .
          1. ALMO
            ALMO 9 July 2022 23: 55
            -1
            In Russian from Ukraine.
        3. shapkin ushankin
          shapkin ushankin 8 July 2022 10: 27
          +13
          And that's why myzdobuls mobilize disabled people, undertreated wounded animals and women ... Not enough million?
        4. Egoza
          Egoza 8 July 2022 10: 36
          +14
          Quote from kristal
          And now the millionth army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

          Excuse me, but can I have a link, where did you get the "millionth army"?
        5. Paladin
          Paladin 8 July 2022 10: 44
          +10
          And now the millionth army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ...

          For you, information from Zeliboba, is this authoritative information?)))
          But even so, what is the use of this million, if in this million for 10000 there is one tank, 10 MTLBs, 10 guns, two ailerons from an airplane, twenty krazs, a wheel from himars, some amount of port wine 777 and Kalash?
          1. Castro Ruiz
            Castro Ruiz 8 July 2022 10: 56
            +1
            Port wine "Three axes". :)
          2. Vlad1097
            Vlad1097 8 July 2022 15: 55
            +7
            And also a large number of ATGM grenade launchers, MANPADS and rifles and mines, in the presence of all this, this is quite a serious force, and while we are tinkering in the Donbass, out of this million mobilized soldiers, our own and foreign mercenaries are preparing and the West continues to supply them with weapons, including heavy ones.
            1. Paladin
              Paladin 8 July 2022 19: 06
              +1
              Of course, they cook, but you can’t prepare it in two or three weeks, and even in a month. And they don't have those deadlines. That is why they are driving to the front line those who do not really know which side to apply to the machine.
        6. GREG68
          GREG68 8 July 2022 10: 45
          +8
          add on the mercenaries who will rush to Ukraine ...

          Mercenaries are no longer rushing there at the same pace as before. Rather in the opposite direction.
        7. Kawado
          Kawado 8 July 2022 10: 48
          +1
          why a million?
          First, the resistance falls exponentially in comparison with the losses. Secondly, there is such a thing as the loss of combat readiness of a unit, when a unit completely loses combat readiness with losses of more than 20% (this is about experienced and motivated wars). There are people, not robots. And there are a whole lot of factors that affect combat readiness.
          Therefore, divide 100 by 000 and you get half a year, this is of course a pitchfork in the water, but it still looks more like the truth and corresponds to the theoretical part. 500 months have already passed.
          Hence the conclusions of some Western experts - "until autumn." And then the Armed Forces of Ukraine will no longer make sense to fight.
          But to be more objective, by February 2023 everything will be over for sure.
          This is if a miracle does not happen and the situation does not change radically.
          1. Vlad1097
            Vlad1097 8 July 2022 16: 00
            +4
            Something is not observed that the resistance from the Armed Forces of Ukraine is falling, very few are being captured, shelling is increasing every day, not a single brigade of the 24 available to the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been completely defeated over the past 4 months and has not ceased to exist, active hostilities continue along the entire front line.
        8. APASUS
          APASUS 8 July 2022 10: 48
          +10
          Quote from kristal
          And now divide the millionth army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into 500 soldiers and count how many days they need to be killed, and add here the mercenaries who will rush to Ukraine ... And here the conclusion suggests itself that 500 soldiers is a low rate

          Million?
          Yesterday I saw a video of how in Odessa they wanted to hand over a summons to a guy on the beach, he corny jumped off the pier and sailed away
          1. Micha456
            Micha456 8 July 2022 19: 55
            +5
            If they start handing subpoenas in our country, then, the circus with horses, will be no worse than dill, at the word /mobilization/ people start to cross themselves or the eye starts to twitch.
        9. ARIONkrsk
          ARIONkrsk 8 July 2022 12: 44
          +5
          What is the millionth, take it higher, billionth laughing
      2. Cartalon
        Cartalon 8 July 2022 10: 12
        +13
        Do you have objective data on enemy losses? If they were such, the front would collapse, a unit that lost 10% of its composition per day loses its combat effectiveness.
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 8 July 2022 10: 17
          +9
          a unit that has lost 10% of its composition for losing combat capability

          There are objective standards, proven by practice, according to which combat capability is considered.
          If there are 50% losses, but at the same time control is maintained, the unit retains its combat capability. Which is what we see at the front.
          1. Cartalon
            Cartalon 8 July 2022 10: 20
            +15
            Where we see it, you have data, to maintain combat effectiveness after 50% losses, some old guard could, but not as mobilized units.
            1. Glory1974
              Glory1974 8 July 2022 10: 33
              +6
              Of course, there are differences between special forces and those who have just passed combat coordination. Therefore, the remaining management has a great influence.
              See reports of the Ministry of Defense. The brigades have lost up to 60% of their personnel, but they are retreating, not running, occupying the following lines. Breakthroughs to a depth of at least 30 km. (1st echelon of army defense) no.
              1. Cartalon
                Cartalon 8 July 2022 10: 45
                +24
                According to reports, losses are not real losses; according to reports, we have already shot down all Ukrainian aviation twice.
                For a breakthrough of 30 km, it is necessary that at least an army corps advance on a front of 30 km, and not a hodgepodge of the militia, Chechens, the Russian Guard with a total strength of a brigade
                1. businessv
                  businessv 8 July 2022 11: 05
                  +2
                  Quote: Cartalon
                  According to reports, losses are not real losses; according to reports, we have already shot down all Ukrainian aviation twice.

                  If you count how many countries of the former socialist bloc transferred their Soviet weapons to the independent, then you will stop being surprised at this and accuse the accountants of a mistake!
                  1. Ryazan87
                    Ryazan87 8 July 2022 11: 11
                    +9
                    So, how many planes did all the countries of the former socialist bloc transfer to Ukraine? For example, the Su-25 that Konashenkov shoots down every day?
                    1. businessv
                      businessv 8 July 2022 11: 30
                      0
                      Quote: Ryazanets87
                      So, how many planes did all the countries of the former socialist bloc transfer to Ukraine?

                      The number of weapons remaining with the countries participating in the Warsaw Pact, or CMEA, is in the public domain, please look for yourself, you will be very surprised how much equipment the Union left to its "partners" - thousands of weapons and equipment! You can search the sources for this article. http://www.hrono.ru/organ/rossiya/1955varshava.html
                      1. Ryazan87
                        Ryazan87 8 July 2022 11: 42
                        +5
                        I do not argue that a lot. The question was: how many aircraft and specifically the Su-25 can (at least theoretically) transfer the countries of the former socialist camp (Eastern European, since you are talking about the ATS) to Ukraine. This data is publicly available, you are right.
                      2. businessv
                        businessv 8 July 2022 12: 50
                        -1
                        Quote: Ryazanets87
                        The question was: how many aircraft and specifically the Su-25 can (at least theoretically) transfer the countries of the former socialist camp

                        I will give an algorithm, look for the rest: contact the representative of each country, talk, add up the results. I can't even imagine how many SU - 25 attack aircraft each of the six countries can give! Although, don't ask Romania, they can't have it.
                      3. Ryazan87
                        Ryazan87 8 July 2022 12: 56
                        +3
                        It's clear. If we are talking about open data, then please:
                        Bulgaria - 10 Su-25K and 4 Su-25UBK (withdrawn from service in 2014)
                        Macedonia - 4 Su-25K / Su-25UBK (withdrawn from service in 2004)
                        Czech Republic - 24 Su-25K / Su-25UBK (withdrawn from service in 2000)
                        Slovakia sold its Su-25s to Armenia in 2002.
                        Maximum 42 pieces at 100% wing setting (which is hardly possible).
                2. Negruz
                  Negruz 8 July 2022 11: 36
                  +2
                  according to reports, we have already shot down all Ukrainian aviation twice.

                  In one of your statements, I see one gross mistake and one obvious lie ...
                  That's okay in itself, but you use this thesis to justify another thesis ....
                  1. Cartalon
                    Cartalon 8 July 2022 11: 43
                    +3
                    Two in the reports always tell the truth, always - always.
                    1. Negruz
                      Negruz 8 July 2022 11: 48
                      0
                      Two in the reports always tell the truth, always - always.

                      Hurt?
                      1. Cartalon
                        Cartalon 8 July 2022 11: 52
                        +4
                        What hurt, the reports are propaganda, that's how it was and will be.
                      2. Negruz
                        Negruz 8 July 2022 11: 57
                        0
                        I'm talking about your reaction to my text ...
                        I don't use the word "summary" at all....
                        hi
                      3. Bort radist
                        Bort radist 11 July 2022 03: 56
                        +2
                        Hurry - jammed like a broken record.
                  2. Ryazan87
                    Ryazan87 8 July 2022 11: 43
                    +3
                    Interestingly, what is your estimate of the strength of the Ukrainian Air Force at the beginning of the NWO? And what is this assessment based on (if it doesn't make it difficult).
                    1. Negruz
                      Negruz 8 July 2022 11: 50
                      0
                      Interestingly, what is your estimate of the strength of the Ukrainian Air Force at the beginning of the NWO? And what is this assessment based on (if it doesn't make it difficult).

                      Judging by the statement of Cartalon, two times less than the number destroyed "today" ...
                      I don't know how to substantiate someone else's thesis....
                      hi
                      1. Ryazan87
                        Ryazan87 8 July 2022 12: 03
                        +3
                        According to the report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation dated July 07.07.2022, 234, during the SVR, 137 aircraft and XNUMX helicopters were destroyed.
                        Those. Cartalon, it turns out, claimed that the Ukrainian Air Force, by the beginning of the NMD, had about 120-130 combat-ready aircraft and about 70 helicopters.
                        What is your assessment? If you are already talking about the fact that he lied and was grossly mistaken?
                      2. Negruz
                        Negruz 8 July 2022 12: 10
                        +3
                        According to the report of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation dated July 07.07.2022, 234, during the SVR, 137 aircraft and XNUMX helicopters were destroyed.
                        Those. Cartalon, it turns out, claimed that the Ukrainian Air Force, by the beginning of the NMD, had about 120-130 combat-ready aircraft and about 70 helicopters.
                        What is your assessment? If you are already talking about the fact that he lied and was grossly mistaken?

                        I do not have my estimates, I operate only with open data ...
                        Excluding transport и training aircraft in February 2022 called (at least) 152 aircraft and 149 helicopters, although Popov claimed that their together was 600 (where he got this data - I have no idea) ...

                        Cartalon claims there were 117 aircraft...

                        At the same time, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine never did not indicate the number of its aircraft ....
                        hi
                      3. Ryazan87
                        Ryazan87 8 July 2022 12: 45
                        +1
                        Excluding transport and training aircraft in February 2022

                        Of course, based on open data.
                        World Air Forces 2022 score:
                        98 combat aircraft, excluding training and transport

                        The Military Balance 2022 score:
                        124 combat aircraft, including combat trainers.
                      4. Negruz
                        Negruz 8 July 2022 12: 51
                        +1
                        I cited the data of the General Staff of the Russian Federation for February 2022 ...

                        You get down to business - do not pull ....
                        hi
                      5. Cartalon
                        Cartalon 8 July 2022 12: 57
                        +2
                        Paaaaatrisingly, if I write that, based on reports of defense mines, we shot down 220 with something aircraft out of 127 available, well, in principle, we can calculate according to the reports we killed 54 thousand + 8.500 in captivity? The wounded should be 1k 3 or 4, which means there should be 180-200 thousand wounded Ukrainians in the region of XNUMX-XNUMX thousand, I don’t know how this relates to reality, thanks for your attention.
                      6. Negruz
                        Negruz 8 July 2022 13: 01
                        +1
                        Paaaaatrisingly, if I write that, based on reports of defense mines, we shot down 220 with something aircraft out of 127 available, well, in principle, we can calculate according to the reports we killed 54 thousand + 8.500 in captivity? The wounded should be 1k 3 or 4, which means there should be 180-200 thousand wounded Ukrainians in the region of XNUMX-XNUMX thousand, I don’t know how this relates to reality, thanks for your attention.

                        Firstly, not 127 (false), and secondly, the RF Ministry of Defense does not use the term "shot down"(gross inaccuracy)....

                        Regarding 200 thousand: recently, the British press called this figure of the total losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ...
                        hi
                        You are welcome!
                    2. Vlad1097
                      Vlad1097 8 July 2022 16: 07
                      -4
                      At least 300000 personnel, plus at least 60 terabars in all regions of Ukraine, which were formed a few months before the start of the war.
              2. saigon
                saigon 9 July 2022 05: 21
                +3
                What breakthroughs and with access to the operational space?
                With the help of BTG, what the hell are breakthroughs in operational, not tactical terms (and in tactical terms, breakthroughs are not too noticeable).
                A breakthrough of defense with access to 30-50 km here at least a tank corps is needed, and not a pair of BTGs.
                In short, everything depends on the density of troops ..
        2. Paladin
          Paladin 8 July 2022 10: 54
          +3
          ... a unit that has lost 10% of its composition per day loses its combat capability

          This is according to textbooks. According to textbooks, an offensive requires a triple superiority in forces and means. And if, of course, there is superiority in the means, then practice shows the exact opposite in the forces.
      3. Dva parovoza
        Dva parovoza 8 July 2022 14: 50
        -3
        Did you calculate all this yourself, or did you take the language from the Sumerian General Staff? Not? Did some light force from YouTube tell you this? In general, I would shut up the mouths of all these premature military officers ... We celebrate the capture of the same village 5 times, and then it turns out that somewhere on the outskirts they have just begun to gain a foothold. Can you calculate how much combat experience we have as a percentage of hp and how rich it is?
    2. valentine light
      valentine light 8 July 2022 10: 30
      +8
      It is better to "gnaw through" grinding than frontal attacks, which is what the Armed Forces of Ukraine are waiting for
    3. businessv
      businessv 8 July 2022 11: 02
      0
      Quote: Cartalon
      In short, the breaking of resistance did not happen, while we gnaw through one line, the enemy is preparing the next one.

      I have not heard anyone claim that it will be "scrapped". He repeatedly wrote that a bunch of fortified areas have been built on the Ukrainian territory of Donbass, what can be scrapped if the troops are protected? The troops are fired upon and coordinated, so it will not be easy. Demolition can be expected when the Donbass is liberated, there is already an almost flat field to the Dnieper, fortifications, if there are, then hastily erected, but left over from the Second World War.
    4. isv000
      isv000 8 July 2022 16: 33
      -1
      Quote: Cartalon
      In short, the breaking of resistance did not happen, while we gnaw through one line, the enemy is preparing the next one.

      Fortified areas in Ukraine have been built and rebuilt for more than 100 years, many cutters need to be changed to gnaw through them ...
    5. certero
      certero 8 July 2022 20: 55
      -3
      Quote: Cartalon
      In short, the breaking of resistance did not happen, while we gnaw through one line, the enemy is preparing the next one.

      You can say as much as you like that there are only Nazis on the other side, but for the most part they are exactly the same as ours. How the West likes to look at it.
    6. Wbond
      Wbond 9 July 2022 20: 10
      +1
      ... so this is understandable ... if they struck to the maximum depth in the rear (and there are forces and means) ... but so far the tactics have not changed ...
  2. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 8 July 2022 09: 57
    +14
    Nothing surprising. For the last in the Donbass, they will resist. There would be a second blow, for example, on Sumy
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 July 2022 10: 05
      +5
      Quote: dmi.pris
      For the latter in the Donbass, they will rest. There would be a second blow, for example, on Sumy

      True, to draw off the forces of the stubborn.
    2. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 8 July 2022 10: 12
      +12
      This will require doubling the Russian grouping in the theater. And better - three times, in order to put pressure on all strategic directions at once and end the war by the New Year. Dreams-s.
    3. private person
      private person 8 July 2022 10: 27
      +1
      For the latter in the Donbass, they will rest. There would be a second blow to Sumy, for example

      But with what forces to make this second blow? Where to get reserves?
      1. Vlad1097
        Vlad1097 8 July 2022 16: 14
        -6
        In Ukraine, now 1/6 of our Armed Forces is fighting, the rest are not involved that they are not included in the action, I don’t understand at all, and it’s clear that there are not enough forces in Ukraine, but the General Staff continues to thwart the capture of Ukraine by a limited contingent.
        1. private person
          private person 8 July 2022 16: 33
          +2
          In Ukraine, now 1/6 of our armed forces are fighting, the rest are not involved that they are not included

          Don't you think that the military also needs to rest, there is such a thing as the rotation of troops. The most combat-ready units are fighting.
          1. Vlad1097
            Vlad1097 8 July 2022 19: 06
            -7
            We now have a rotation through the formation of volunteer battalions, probably 60 of them have already been sent, formed, are being prepared and are being formed at the moment. And the regular troops must all be constantly in a combat-ready state; there should not be combat-ready ones there at all.
    4. GREG68
      GREG68 8 July 2022 10: 49
      0
      GDP said yesterday that we have not taken Ukraine seriously yet. One must think that the Commander-in-Chief has a couple of aces up his sleeve. And all the trumps laughing
      1. know
        know 8 July 2022 11: 02
        +11
        What are these trump aces? Mobilization? I am afraid that it will drastically change the mood in society, and sofa patriots, having received the summons themselves, or seeing it in the hands of their son, brother, or even their daughter-nurse, will sharply change their tone and begin to curse Putin who “unleashed the war”. And there are no other trump cards - everything has already been "thrown on the table." Slow gnaw through defense with losses both in the army and on the part of the civilian population of Donbass, and now in Russian cities and villages. They missed the time, gave the Ukronazis the opportunity to raise mankurts, who now even hate their Russian relatives - and these are adults who still remember both the USSR and the post-Soviet peacetime. And now the children are growing up there - animals.
        But in 2014, the procession of the Russian army would have been triumphant, Russian soldiers on the Left Bank and in southern Ukraine would have been greeted with flowers and bread and salt.
      2. Cartalon
        Cartalon 8 July 2022 11: 36
        +13
        Several thousand dead on our side, but we did not start, maybe it would be better to start?
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      4. rusmax888
        rusmax888 9 July 2022 23: 24
        -1
        We have been listening to VVP for over 20 years. I grew up on his stories))
  3. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 8 July 2022 09: 59
    0
    An attempt by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to apply a new tactic near Seversk slowed down the pace of the offensive of the allied forces
    The offensive of the allied forces continues, there are no big changes in the situation on the line of contact, the enemy is putting up fierce resistance. Despite this, units of the Russian army and NM of the republics continue to put pressure, knocking out Ukrainian nationalists from their positions.
    request Yes, what is it?
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 July 2022 10: 03
    +1
    "Meat" holds the position. He snaps where he can. Nightmares of civilians. This will not help the dill .. The end is obvious.
  5. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 8 July 2022 10: 04
    +10
    the enemy suffers heavy losses, Russian artillery works almost around the clock, and aircraft support the offensive from the air.

    With two hundred guns per kilometer of the front, they do not ask about the enemy and do not report, but only report to what line our advancing units have reached.

    Marshal Moskalenko.

    Artillery - God of War!
    1. Cartalon
      Cartalon 8 July 2022 10: 13
      +8
      Uh-huh, and our btg is advancing at the front of 5,5 km
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 8 July 2022 10: 22
        +4
        Well, not a full-fledged war, but a "special operation" ... what
      2. Vlad1097
        Vlad1097 8 July 2022 16: 17
        -6
        As a result, there are big losses.
    2. stankow
      stankow 8 July 2022 10: 23
      +3
      And they said - drones ... wink
    3. Amper
      Amper 8 July 2022 10: 34
      -3
      In capable hands, with proper technical support and sufficient BC.
  6. Foul skeptic
    Foul skeptic 8 July 2022 10: 05
    +26
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine are engaged in a systematic and consistent shooting of the rear bases, every day the depots of RAV and fuel and lubricants in the rear are destroyed. Intelligence (including intelligence) and HIMARS in conjunction have already greatly complicated our life in supplying a group of troops.
    1. MrFYGY
      MrFYGY 8 July 2022 11: 25
      +1
      All thanks because it has not been taken under the bridgehead near Donetsk for half a year.
  7. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 8 July 2022 10: 05
    +5
    The whole article is a well-written video of Podolyaki dated July 7th.
    Rested, slowed down, gnawed, combed.
    One way or another, Donbass will soon be ours!
    Glory to Russia!
  8. iouris
    iouris 8 July 2022 10: 05
    +9
    An "attempt" is an action that is successfully thwarted. In this case, the tactic was successful, albeit limited. In the conditions of the superiority of the attackers, the defending enemy tries to act unconventionally. Intelligence didn't work.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 8 July 2022 10: 13
      +10
      You are probably talking about this

      At the entrance to the abandoned village, ours fall into the fire bag, the Armed Forces of Ukraine hit at the already targeted coordinates. After a couple of such ambushes

      An obvious miscalculation by the commander and a flaw in our intelligence.
  9. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 8 July 2022 10: 07
    +8
    With the unhurried tactics that the Armed Forces of Ukraine imposed on the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, it is not surprising that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are retreating and concentrating.
    1. iouris
      iouris 8 July 2022 11: 36
      0
      Another big question: the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation or the troops of the LPR or the DPR are conducting an offensive. The level of training and equipment is different.
  10. Eug
    Eug 8 July 2022 10: 20
    +8
    After the Slavic-Kramatorsk agglomeration (Druzhkovka, Konstantinovka), further to the Dnieper (river), there are mainly fields, settlements and, accordingly, few defensive opportunities (and the NPs are not as densely located as in the Donbass). But maneuverable defense "hit and disappear" can create a lot of problems, there are a lot of Stingers, Javiks, NLAW in ZSU, and they can be used from almost any civilian vehicle. The key is in air supremacy.
  11. shapkin ushankin
    shapkin ushankin 8 July 2022 10: 22
    +16
    Where is the new tactic? They did this back in the spring ... Each abandoned settlement was certainly shelled ...
  12. iz odessy
    iz odessy 8 July 2022 10: 24
    +3
    good tactic. Dushmans in 1981 -1982, as I remember, successfully, at one time they worked on columns "from the mountain". But for everything tricky .. there is smarter. The solution then was - on the route points commanded in height, they began to land troops with communications, and this worked fine. Nobody canceled the landing of groups and reconnaissance in force. Losses, if the personnel are trained, are not more than statistical
  13. Sergey39
    Sergey39 8 July 2022 10: 24
    -8
    Sofa General Staff at work! (((
    It is not for us to decide how to conduct a b / d !!!
  14. AlOrg
    AlOrg 8 July 2022 10: 26
    +3
    Combat experience comes with battle experience. So it was in 1941. In 1945, in fact, the Red Army ended the Second World War with fighters who in 1941 had no experience of military operations
  15. Uprun
    Uprun 8 July 2022 10: 27
    +1
    Well, Russians always have a screwdriver for their cunning ass, the tactics of combined arms combat have certainly changed since 1945, nothing, we’ll manage ...
  16. Hamman
    Hamman 8 July 2022 10: 31
    +5
    After reading the article, I caught myself thinking that if not for me, but for someone else from the 60s, let him read this, what would he think? The Americans won and the battles are going on on our territory) damn what a plot for a science fiction film in the spirit of "We are from the future" only the opposite is "We are from the past". For example, a military unit from near Lysichansk comes from the 60s in our time)) here is the plot.
    1. alexandrvvsysop
      alexandrvvsysop 8 July 2022 10: 43
      0
      So, that's how it is. They celebrated there in December 1991, and on February 24 of the current one.
  17. Amper
    Amper 8 July 2022 10: 31
    +5
    Quote: Romario_Argo
    only now 90% of the drugs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have no combat experience, and every day there is a decrease in drugs
    up to 500 soldiers are irretrievably knocked out, and no one counts the wounded at all
    in the first line of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, those who have combat experience have 5000 left
    - these are Natsiks, Special Forces, mercenaries, Armed Forces, territorial defense
    and this is on a 1000 km front
    they are then grinded daily, although the lion's losses are recruits

    Unfortunately, the same thing happens with ours. In the LPR, DPR, the reservists, probably, have already raised everyone in the gun, from the plow ... One can only guess about our losses ...
    1. Ryazan87
      Ryazan87 8 July 2022 11: 15
      +5
      Only the losses of the DPR and only those killed officially amount to more than 2200 people. Grinding, it's like...
    2. Vlad1097
      Vlad1097 8 July 2022 16: 24
      0
      Approximately 7 - 8 thousand 200 thousand over the past four months, given the intensity of hostilities and the length of the front more than 1000 km, and it got even worse, dill began to shell our border territory and cities and towns using long-range artillery, drones and OTRK, from which civilians and our border guards began to die.
  18. Hey
    Hey 8 July 2022 11: 01
    +2
    It's all bullshit. Two brigades were removed from the Seversky direction and transferred to another place, as was previously written on the VO. And for the Ukrainian troops, as a result of the reduction of the front line, the density of troops per kilometer of the defense line has increased. These are the main reasons for the slowdown here. Banal lack of strength.
  19. Volhv
    Volhv 8 July 2022 11: 49
    0
    Zeli's jackals rush between the flags, grabbing lead olives...
    And they could live peacefully, work as doctors, teachers, vegetable growers, taxi drivers ... at worst, just sit peacefully on the bunk for a small Skoda ...
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 8 July 2022 12: 15
    +5
    An attempt by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to apply a new tactic near Seversk slowed down the pace of the offensive of the allied forces
    . What can I say ... nothing new that serious military experts have not yet proposed to do. It basically boils down to one thing ... the pressure must be increased, the military group must be increased, one way or another!
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  22. Mass Mass
    Mass Mass 8 July 2022 14: 17
    -2
    a smart city will not enter, a smart city will bypass.
  23. Terenin
    Terenin 8 July 2022 17: 05
    +6
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine are leaving small settlements and retreating, at the same time concentrating forces in forest plantations around settlements.

    Well, this is a tactic one or two times, and then forest plantations are equal to under cemeteries without chances to survive.
  24. nik-mazur
    nik-mazur 8 July 2022 18: 26
    +9
    "... Near Seversk, the enemy tried to use a new tactic that brought him some success ..."

    I am reading about this “new tactic” for at least the third time. Only the name of the cities changes, and the rest of the text is repeated almost verbatim.
  25. ivan2022
    ivan2022 8 July 2022 22: 04
    +1
    Quote from Mass Mass
    a smart city will not enter, a smart city will bypass.


    Modern military men have some kind of childish arguments ..... I just want to say: "Does their head think or what? They entered the village without knowing where the enemy was? And what was intelligence doing? Went on vacation?"
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 9 July 2022 23: 42
      0
      What about intelligence? Well, over there in the forest belt, a bunch of stoned ones. You will enter the village and they will run around the village. How without a break?
      And the positions are shot
  26. Vovavvs
    Vovavvs 9 July 2022 07: 58
    +3
    It looks like it's time for us to change tactics, stop hitting the wall with our foreheads...
  27. cooper
    cooper 9 July 2022 08: 47
    +3
    "..Russian artillery works almost around the clock, aviation supports the offensive from the air .." - So little, not intensive enough. There is simply not enough firepower. It's good to try to fight "in white gloves" and with limited means. By the way, where are the promised strikes against the so-called. decision centers? Why is the issue of curbing the supply of Western weapons not being radically resolved?? Here is the answer to the question about slowing down the so-called. SVO...
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 9 July 2022 23: 38
      +1
      Don't get hysterical. But in this case it's better to burn everything
  28. vadivm59
    vadivm59 9 July 2022 18: 26
    +1
    this tactic, if I'm not mistaken, is called the "fire bag". during the Second World War it was widely used by both sides. But now they don’t teach this in military schools? on TV and here, on VO they often write that the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have weapons, they are fighting DP-27 and PR. rarities. And who, then, and most importantly WHAT, is so fiercely defending? Maybe it's time to write the truth, bravura articles and stories are already tired.
  29. Crisp
    Crisp 9 July 2022 19: 57
    +3
    So it's good, you have to use it. Instead of destroying housing, you need to plow the forest around. For firewood and forest and ukrov. The forest will not turn to the UN, so something fiery-heavy can be left there.
  30. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 9 July 2022 23: 36
    0
    Ours now do not enter settlements so as not to endanger residents. Bypass
  31. Dva parovoza
    Dva parovoza 10 July 2022 11: 23
    -1
    This is such a new strategy - to tell the enemy which tactics worked and which did not?
  32. TaUr19RUS
    TaUr19RUS 10 July 2022 16: 26
    0
    Everything is not so simple, the Russians are at war with the Russians, so it’s such a mochilo ...
  33. Arkady007
    Arkady007 11 July 2022 08: 17
    -2
    War is a tactical game. Who is smarter wins.
    By a strange coincidence, thieves and family ties do not work well here.
  34. Amper
    Amper 11 July 2022 10: 39
    -2
    Quote from Volhv
    Zeli's jackals rush between the flags, grabbing lead olives...
    And they could live peacefully, work as doctors, teachers, vegetable growers, taxi drivers ... at worst, just sit peacefully on the bunk for a small Skoda ...

    Uncle Sam doesn't need them. Dill as a tool for opening up Russia and reshaping Eurasia in the 21st century. From time immemorial, water has been carried on fools. hi