It's all about the spikes: American DARPA may be involved in the COVID-19 pandemic

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This person may be the main developer of the coronavirus. Ralph Baric, molecular biologist at the University of North Carolina. Source: theintercept.com

The doctor is almost convinced


It looks like a scandal. Jeffrey Sachs, head of the profile commission investigating the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes coronavirus disease, said that the pathogen could be obtained artificially. And there are two great things here.

The first is the author, to whom the world scientific community has no claims.



Dr. Sachs has long been a recognized authority, though not in biology, but in economics, but everyone listens to his opinion. In the early 2000s, he was included in the list of the most influential people in the world. Sachs even managed to serve the young post-Soviet Russia. For three years since 1991, he worked in Yegor Gaidar's team, coordinating "shock therapy". Sachs somehow did not work out with the Russian reformers, he left, and in 1998 he published an angry remark:

“The main thing that let us down was the colossal gap between the rhetoric of the reformers and their real actions ... And, it seems to me, the Russian leadership surpassed the most fantastic ideas of the Marxists about capitalism: they considered that the business of the state is to serve a narrow circle of capitalists, pumping into their pockets as much money as possible and as soon as possible. This is not shock therapy. This is a malicious, premeditated, well-thought-out action, which has as its goal a large-scale redistribution of wealth in the interests of a narrow circle of people.

The doctor also complained about the ill-considered policy of the United States, when the White House at first failed to fully implement its strategy in Russia, and then supported the rapid advance of NATO to the east.

Jeffrey Sachs is surprisingly loyal to the special operation in Ukraine, calling the irrepressible ambitions of the North Atlantic Alliance the main culprit for what is happening. It is too early to call this scientist our man in the camp of the enemy, but this point of view should be taken into account.

The second remarkable moment in stories Sachs is accusing American biological laboratories of creating and spreading the coronavirus.

Dr. Sachs incriminates not the Chinese from Wuhan, but his compatriots, colleagues in the scientific workshop. It is necessary to have an iron character and irrefutable evidence in order to announce such sensations. And it seems that Sachs has enough facts, albeit indirect ones. The commission, headed by a scientist, was created on the basis of one of the oldest and most authoritative scientific journals, The Lancet.

The British Medical Journal, which turns 200 next year, publishes very frequently about the coronavirus pandemic and how to deal with it. At the same time, all articles pass through a complex sieve of reviews by respected scientists from around the world. For example: on March 10 this year, the magazine published material based on estimates of excess mortality in the world during the pandemic period.

According to official figures, the death toll is approaching 6 million, and according to scientific calculations, the excess deaths in two years averaged more than 18 million - three times more! They write “on average”, since the calculations give an interval of deaths from 17,1 to 19,6 million. Approximately such losses were suffered by humanity during the 24 months of the pandemic.

By the way, in Russia from January 1, 2020 to December 31, 2022, excess mortality, according to the authors of the article, amounted to 1,07 million people. More only in the US (up to 1,18 million) and India (4,36 million).

Once upon a time, Russian researchers also published in The Lancet. In particular, last year an article was published by Denis Logunov, the chief developer of the domestic Sputnik V vaccine, which presents a rigorous study of the drug's effectiveness. After that, the West started talking about the “Russian vaccine” in a completely different tone, but was never allowed to enter their markets. The discriminatory policy worked out again in all its glory.


Geoffrey Sachs. Source: cont.ws

As a result, The Lancet commission, headed by Dr. Sachs, is a completely respectable scientific office, the conclusions of which can and should be heeded. Apparently, it is still far from official conclusions, but the head has already spoken about the origin of the coronavirus:

“I chaired the Lancet Covid commission for two years. I'm almost convinced that it came from American biotech laboratories and not from nature. I'll just note that there were two years of intensive study: this is a blunder, in my opinion, of biotechnology, and not a natural distribution.
We don't know for sure, I have to make it absolutely clear, but there's ample evidence that it's worth looking into, and it's not being looked into, either in the US or elsewhere. I think there are reasons: they don’t want to look under the carpet.”

No matter how much one would like to believe in the conspiracy version of the origin of the coronavirus, one has to pay more and more attention to the laboratory origin.

A fatal chain of coincidences?


Why is Dr. Sachs almost convinced of the artificial genesis of the coronavirus?

Firstly, because until now, two years later, they cannot find a natural carrier of COVID-19. They say that the forests of half of China have already been searched in vain. It also failed to pull off the reverse trick, that is, to infect mice and pangolins with the human coronavirus. Therefore, all assumptions about a man-made virus cannot be dismissed - skeptics do not have so many counterarguments.

The results of one interesting experiment lead to certain thoughts.

Scientists attempted to infect bat cells with the 2002 coronavirus, which caused a brief but ferocious "SARS" epidemic. And it turned out that Sars-CoV-1 perfectly penetrates into cell cultures, unlike the coronavirus of the 2019 sample.

What can it say? The fact that there is actually a big evolutionary difference between two very similar viruses. Either the modern coronavirus is not naturally occurring at all, or it literally went through “fire, water and copper pipes” to become non-specific to a bat, but specific to humans. And to a number of cats, for example, leopards and tigers.

There are cases of infection of some species of deer. There is always a chance that the researchers are looking in the wrong place, and the small animal, which is also the intermediate host of the coronavirus, is still hiding in the forest thicket. But until this species is determined, no one can refute the words of Jeffrey Sachs.


Institute in Wuhan, China. Source: theintercept.com

The second reason the Ph.D. and economist by profession chose to blame American labs was the unique amino acid sequence on the most important part of the virus's spike protein. It is this sequence that is so insidious that it allows the pathogen to freely enter the cells of the human respiratory tract.

The paradox is that the sequence of eight amino acids in the composition of the spike was found in the cells of the nasopharynx, trachea and lungs in humans. No other respiratory virus can do such a trick. An article with a detailed analysis of this fact was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Then the most exciting begins. There is such a research office in the USA, the EcoHealth Alliance, which lives on grants related to healthcare. They managed to master more than 118 million dollars and even work with Chinese biological laboratories in Wuhan.

In 2018, EcoHealth Alliance employees intended to receive fully open funding from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). Guess what for? Just for the development of a line of bat coronaviruses, in which exactly the same amino acid sequence was located on the spike.

That is, about a year and a half before the pandemic in the United States, the guys from the EcoHealth Alliance tried to assemble a virus that, according to the principle of operation, painfully resembles SARS-CoV-2.

Officially, no money was given for such controversial experiments. But this is official - who will disclose the details of the defense program? After all, this is a real opportunity to satisfy the research itch, as well as try to create weapons miracle virus. DARPA was created for this. This is the first hypothesis.

The second is that the EcoHealth Alliance group has long and illegally created a coronavirus, and they asked the military for money for final registration and legalization. The Intercept magazine openly writes that in a large part of the applications for American grants, the development team has everything ready, and only minor touches are required to the final project.

Among the grant seekers was Ralph Baric, a molecular biologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill with 20 years of experience specifically with viral spike proteins. This scientist at one time created a clone of the SARS virus and (attention!) patented the method of embedding genetic material without traces of interference.

Also, Barik, together with the Chinese, learned to twist the pathogenicity of bat coronaviruses so that they become infected faster and get sick more severely. What for? Ostensibly to find a more effective drug and vaccine.

As you know, until you catch a thief by the hand, it is very difficult to prove guilt by circumstantial evidence. Especially in such a delicate matter as genetic engineering. Any scientist, if he were guilty three times, would have covered his tracks long ago - there was plenty of time for this.

But questions remain.

The first is the release of a hypothetically laboratory coronavirus "into people" - is it an accident or sabotage? Or Barik's revenge for the rejected grant?

Second, what other biological chimeras are being synthesized in American "death factories"?
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  1. +11
    7 July 2022 16: 16
    Americans have been funding work on coronoviruses since 1999. But our Kazakh brothers strive to be friends with the Americans. But Tokayev cannot but know that 5 biological laboratories in Kazakhstan dealt with corona and especially dangerous infections, while studying the possibility of using livestock as reservoirs for the transmission of these infections. Here he is our controversial friend Kazakhstan. When pogroms began in Almaat, gangs of barmaley entered the laboratory and immediately received an order not to touch anything and were dumped from the laboratory. Well, of course, the windows were broken, but they fell down quickly.
    1. -3
      8 July 2022 07: 23
      It is necessary to take a wider view - the USA, NATO, Ukraine, the Japanese and the Australopithecus who joined them, these damned Nazis did everything! There, in the secret laboratories of the new Wehrmacht, they invented to encroach on us, holy people.
      1. +2
        12 July 2022 16: 05
        Quote: Civil
        It is necessary to take a wider view - the USA, NATO, Ukraine, the Japanese and the Australopithecus who joined them, these damned Nazis did everything! There, in the secret laboratories of the new Wehrmacht, they invented to encroach on us, holy people.

        not funny. Covid-19 systemic vasculitis, many microthrombi are formed, where the virus breaks through the vessel wall. This happens throughout the body, incl. and in the bones. Further around the tissues deprived of blood supply, a systemic inflammatory reaction begins. In the first place in terms of frequency of damage are the lungs, heart, pancreas, thyroid gland, and whoever is lucky. Vaccination gives a chance to survive, the vaccinated are less likely to end up in intensive care than the unvaccinated. There are multiple lesions of the skeleton, I see this every day at consultations: multiple cystic lesions in the periarticular ends of the bones. Not the format to discuss with you.
        1. 0
          13 July 2022 08: 06
          Quote: Balu
          not funny. Covid-19 systemic vasculitis, many microthrombi are formed, where the virus breaks through the vessel wall. This happens throughout the body, incl. and in the bones. Further around the tissues deprived of blood supply, a systemic inflammatory reaction begins. In the first place in terms of frequency of damage are the lungs, heart, pancreas, thyroid gland, and whoever is lucky. Vaccination gives a chance to survive, the vaccinated are less likely to end up in intensive care than the unvaccinated. There are multiple lesions of the skeleton, I see this every day at consultations: multiple cystic lesions in the periarticular ends of the bones. Not the format to discuss with you.


          No one laughed, he himself fell ill, and as soon as the opportunity arose, he was vaccinated. There are problems with the joints. They take turns getting sick.
          1. +1
            14 July 2022 20: 23
            Do an CT scan, densitometry, see how much vitamin D3, calcium, phosphorus, phosphatase is in the blood. contact an orthopedist or rheumatologist. According to the standard, it is necessary to see a rheumatologist, but the opinion of an orthopedist is not superfluous. I trust osteogenon more in combination with vitamin D3 (for this, densitometry and the determination of vitamin D in the blood), B vitamins and any physical education with an emphasis on coordination of movements, the study of all muscles and joints. For example Wu-shu. YouTube is full of complexes, start simple. Damage to bones and joints, vertebrae after covid has a different picture and clinic. You may need surgery, for this you need an orthopedist.
            1. 0
              15 July 2022 07: 06
              Quote: Balu
              Do an CT scan, densitometry, see how much vitamin D3, calcium, phosphorus, phosphatase is in the blood. contact an orthopedist or rheumatologist. According to the standard, it is necessary to see a rheumatologist, but the opinion of an orthopedist is not superfluous. I trust osteogenon more in combination with vitamin D3 (for this, densitometry and the determination of vitamin D in the blood), B vitamins and any physical education with an emphasis on coordination of movements, the study of all muscles and joints. For example Wu-shu. YouTube is full of complexes, start simple. Damage to bones and joints, vertebrae after covid has a different picture and clinic. You may need surgery, for this you need an orthopedist.

              Thank you 100% will use your advice. I didn’t think it was so serious, I attributed it to age.
  2. +10
    7 July 2022 16: 16
    For a lot of money, you can destroy humanity. This is the ideology of the American way of life.
    1. +1
      7 July 2022 18: 00
      Quote: Evgenijus
      For a lot of money, you can destroy humanity. This is the ideology of the American way of life.

      If not all mankind, then Ukraine - for sure!
      The second wave of corona has already been announced, about 1300 people fell ill last week.
    2. +7
      7 July 2022 19: 07
      Quote: Evgenijus
      For a lot of money, you can destroy humanity. This is the ideology of the American way of life.

      In 1980, in Elbert County, Georgia, stone tablets were installed, the customer of which remained unknown, on which, in the 8 most common languages ​​​​of the world, an inscription was made in which, among other crap, it was indicated that 500 million people should remain on earth. So, apparently, using wars and epidemics, mattresses are trying to achieve this indicator. It seems that they will not stop at this coronavirus and will most likely launch a new virus in order to divert the attention of the population from economic problems. USA, the most ungodly and misanthropic country.
      1. +1
        9 July 2022 09: 43
        It seems that unknown people blew up these plates the other day, which was not easy to do.
        1. +1
          9 July 2022 10: 14
          Quote: Igor17
          It seems that unknown people blew up these plates the other day, which was not easy to do.

          Quite right. Apparently 7 billion "superfluous" inhabitants of the earth do not share the views of those who set the population limit at 500 million. This stone composition lacked this "stroke with an explosion", which was finally corrected. hi
  3. 0
    7 July 2022 16: 24
    Dr Sax:
    “I chaired the Lancet Covid commission for two years. I'm almost convinced that it came from American biotech laboratories and not from nature. I'll just note that there were two years of intensive study: this is a blunder, in my opinion, of biotechnology, and not a natural distribution.
    We don't know for sure, I have to make it absolutely clear, but there's ample evidence that it's worth looking into, and it's not being looked into, either in the US or elsewhere. I think there are reasons: they don’t want to look under the carpet.”
    As soon as the SVO began in Novorossia-Ukraine and the US biological laboratories began to be evacuated from there, the covid, by a strange coincidence, became less dangerous ... Or is it just a coincidence? Can check - by closing the US biolaboratories, which are located in other places? Perhaps, in those places, other countries should conduct some kind of NWO so that the United States evacuates its biological laboratories from there?
    1. -3
      7 July 2022 16: 29
      Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
      So covid, by a strange coincidence, became less dangerous ... Or is it just a coincidence? M

      The stratum of those immunized by vaccinations and those who recovered from the disease has grown. Only now, those who have been ill are slowly fading away from the consequences of covid and are not taken into account. covid is growing. In our city, sharply already half of the maximum last year.
  4. +2
    7 July 2022 16: 25
    Not an expert. I will not approve. But, this is my personal opinion, the United States is clearly involved here. Not a single nasty thing can do without them!
  5. ANB
    +2
    7 July 2022 16: 36
    Is it time to impose sanctions on the US? It is enough to stop accepting USD for payment for goods.
    1. +1
      7 July 2022 17: 12
      Quote: ANB
      It is enough to stop accepting USD for payment for goods.

      This is good ... Only it is better to teach others to accept payment for goods in rubles.
  6. +2
    7 July 2022 16: 41
    Here, to be honest, it is difficult for me, as a biologist, to read such "conspiracy theories" without a smile. The author, to put it mildly, is not very well versed in virology (one pearl about "created a virus clone" is worth something, not to mention "twist pathogenicity"!). Yes, it is clear to the fool that the United States is working with a bunch of dangerous and potentially dangerous agents. To be objective, all "big countries" do this, including Russia. But this "create artificially", to be honest, looks like nonsense. Pandemics have arisen, are arising and will continue to arise, and human influence on this process is completely negligible. We can create and distribute a vaccine, yes. And in the case of covidla, the entire advertised pandemic is purely political and economic toys. With all the huge mortality, the entire pandemic in Russia has not even come close to the tragic situation of tuberculosis or HIV! So, of course, I would like to see a conspiracy of the damned Yankees here too, but let's be at least a little objective: in this case, they have nothing to do with it - and that's fine - otherwise the biological war would already be on!
    1. +3
      7 July 2022 17: 09
      Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
      So, of course, I would like to see a conspiracy of the damned Yankees here too, but let's be at least a little objective: in this case, they have nothing to do with it - and that's fine - otherwise the biological war would already be on!

      Come on, you only blame the Yankees, the whole world of capitalism is like that, and it is fighting for its existence. After 1917, capitalism realized that socialism was on its heels. And now the world of capitalism has united, and is trying by any means, even the most barbaric, which even Hitler's Germany did not use, to crush those who are objectionable and not subject to it. So both biology and genetic engineering also work for capitalism.
    2. -7
      7 July 2022 17: 10
      Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
      So, of course, I would like to see a conspiracy of the damned Yankees here too, but let's be at least a little objective: in this case, they have nothing to do with it - and that's fine - otherwise the biological war would already be on!

      But you don’t admit that the conspiracy is global and all states are involved .. well, maybe except for China .. After all, the technologies are tested .. there is an agent in the government who creates favorable ground and background .. suppose that there is some kind of Madame Arbidol who fulfills the will WHO .. creates a background, creates conditions, lobbies the necessary decrees .. and thereby a narrow circle, makes excellent money on the vaccine .. in addition to utilizing people of retirement and pre-retirement age, and this is useful .. there is more budget money, which means you can "earn" from them more .. and it turns out that global interests perfectly coincide with small-town ones .. so we get a "conspiracy". If you look from the point of view of benefits .. then everything is very logical.
      As for the virus .. in fact, it doesn’t even matter its origin .. the important thing is that they were able to run it in, very quickly .. make money on people, dispose of pensioners .. create a concentration camp .. so far, of course, on a mini scale .. but Down and Out trouble started..
      1. +2
        8 July 2022 09: 29
        I admit that the "conspiracy is global" and I am sure that the main task of this pandemic is money and politics. Yes, the Americans found a good reason and took advantage of it to the maximum. There would be no HF - they would throw a tantrum on a different occasion, from influenza to monkeypox. But HF turned out to be, sadly, very successful in this regard.
      2. 0
        8 July 2022 11: 51
        And do not admit that the conspiracy is global

        I do not admit.
        First and most important. "Conspiracy theories" are almost always not about the presence of some kind of "special and secret knowledge", but about the lack of knowledge. Usually - professional, but sometimes - and elementary.
    3. +1
      7 July 2022 17: 45
      So she's on her way. Otherwise, why hundreds of US laboratories, and outside of their own country? Which are also supervised by the military and completely closed to the control of the host country.
      1. +2
        9 July 2022 12: 49
        Well, thank God, real biological warfare isn't going on yet. And hundreds of shtatovskih laboratories - that's right (for them). It is imperative to know the epidemiological situation on the borders (and, best of all, inside) of your opponent. For example, like the same ticks - yeah, there are a lot of them and there are still anti-vaccination people all around. So shouldn't we explore encephalitis more (and, preferably, also the possibility of expanding it with infection). Unfortunately, since the time of "perestroika" we have been hammered into our heads with ideas about "light elves" from the West, who only want to help and save us, the orphans and the poor. And under this case, for starters, a powerful network of sanitary epidemiological and quarantine stations was destroyed. Well, yes - why spend money on these "nerds" who look at unknown bugs? As a result, remember - the Colorado potato beetle, eastern codling moth, apple aphid and many others? I'm not talking about the stations of the allied plague institutes - remarkably captured and now working "under the wing" of the United States. This is just the very knowledge that will not be superfluous!
    4. 0
      7 July 2022 18: 00
      Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

      Here, to be honest, it is difficult for me, as a biologist, to read such "conspiracy theories" without a smile. The author, to put it mildly, is not very well versed in virology (one pearl about "created a virus clone" is worth something, not to mention "twist pathogenicity"!).

      1. Not Jeffrey Sachs himself, but a commission (from a group of specialists) concluded. Do you consider yourself more qualified than them?
      2. Microbiologist Nikulin described in detail the path of the coronavirus from a biolaboratory in the US to China:
      https://nation-news.ru/23522783-mikrobiolog_nikulin_v_detalyah_opisal_put_koronavirusa_iz_biolaboratorii_v_ssha_do_kitaya?utm_source=politobzor.net
      By the way, there is a link to the topware. How are you, against the opinion of Igor Nikulin (microbiologist, ex-member of the UN Commission on Biological and Chemical Weapons)

      So who's being objective here...yes, did you do research on the covid virus? belay
      1. 0
        8 July 2022 09: 47
        I prefer to read all the same specialized scientific literature. According to your comments: 1. The "Lancet" commission, headed by Sachs, can hardly be called objective (for example, Sachs simply dismissed a group of scientists who did not agree with his opinion). There is a WHO investigation (which included representatives of Russia) - it states that it is impossible to establish the artificial origin of HF. The fact that they worked with him and first discovered in Wuhan is quite clear, there is the largest virological institute there, no worse than our Vector. And, of course, no one is immune from an emergency - we, again in Vector, also had tragedies with human casualties (but, we must pay tribute to the Soviet order - everything was promptly localized). 2. I read Nikulin's opus to the phrase "a virus in two parts: Sars - human, and Cov - a coronavirus bat." I hope that the journalists misrepresented him in this way, otherwise there are big questions about the professional qualities of the expert.
        1. 0
          8 July 2022 10: 25
          Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
          Sachs simply fired a group of scientists who disagreed with his opinion

          Link to the studio ...!!!

          Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
          I read Nikulin's opus to the phrase "a virus in two parts: Sars - human, and Cov - a coronavirus bat"

          If you are in the know, this was not written for specialists, so that it would be clearer ... but for you everything ... misrepresented, misrepresented ... well, and a link that the statement does not at all reflect the essence of the artificial origin of the virus.

          And again, and besides, information was published about the registration of a patent in 2015 for a virus like covid19 ...

          Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
          There is a WHO investigation (which included representatives of Russia) - it states that it is impossible to establish the artificial origin of HF.

          And again, and in the same place - a link to the studio ... the people in VO are literate, and virologists, except for you (if you are the one, of course ...) are ... to figure out where the chatter is, and where the real meaning is !!!

          Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
          1. The "Lancet" commission, headed by Sachs, can hardly be called objective (for example, Sachs simply fired a group of scientists who disagreed with his opinion).

          And again and besides - a link to the publication of data analysis of those who disagree ...
          1. +2
            9 July 2022 12: 37
            Have you been banned by Googledex? I understand that the Internet is full of specialists - but at least you can read about the topic of conversation? Well, here I am, for example, as an amateur, I think that the T-80 is better "by numbers" than the T-72, but I'm afraid to argue on this topic without reading at least shitpedia. Okay, let's go to hell. I provide links to good sites.
            1. Dismissal of those who disagree https://ria.ru/20210925/zhurnal-1751785107.html (and there is no need to look for conspiracy here again - Dashak is just a professional biologist).
            2. I won’t even comment on the nonsense about “two parts of the virus” - at least linguistically SARS is just Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome - this refers to diagnostics, and not to the virus! And cov is just short for COrona Virus, it's a bunch of shitty viruses.
            3. The WHO investigation is briefly retold here https://tass.ru/obschestvo/10658137. I repeat - no one says that we accurately and reliably traced the entire chain of evolution of the virus - but the artificiality of its origin is extremely unlikely. Jaya with American money and Chinese equipment, fortunately, is not yet possible to create a full-fledged combat biological weapon.
            For those who want to understand the features of HF on their own, here is a good article written in human language https://biomolecula.ru/articles/covid-19-chto-my-znaem-i-chego-ne-znaem .
            In general, I do not understand what the dispute is about.
            Work with HF in China was going on - of course. Similar work is being carried out in all decent countries, this is a biosafety issue. Thank God, we also have a number of similar institutions in Russia, that's right!
            The Yankees paid for research in Wuhan - no doubt. World science is strongly tied to "outsourcing". The same full genomes are easier and cheaper to order in South Korea than, for example, to swell billions for the purchase of foreign equipment in Russia (which also breaks, again requires imported consumables, imported software, etc.). And in medical and biological instrumentation, unfortunately, we are decades behind China (the vaunted USA, by the way, too - but they have patents).
            Could laboratory manipulations lead to a tragic change in the flying mouse CV? And this cannot be ruled out. The increase in pathogenicity during laboratory cultivation has long been known (the same HeLa line is several times "angrier" than the initial material). But to purposefully create a chimeric, specifically specific nCov-201, which is now SARS-Cov-2 - no, fortunately, humanity is not yet capable of this.
            Why, then, 100500 times the media "hype" the topic of the laboratory origin of covid? Yes, old Trump directly said about this - since the Chinese have "grown" HF, they must pay for it and pay a lot! Well, our unfortunate "patriots" are trying to "pull an owl on the globe" and turn history against the United States. But I personally urge all the same to sometimes think and compare the facts and fabrications of various "experts". Otherwise, you can turn into Arestovich, you bastard.
            1. 0
              9 July 2022 19: 10
              The WHO investigation, unfortunately, is not an indicator - whoever pays orders the music. The example of the OPCW confirms this.
              It is really difficult to prove the artificiality or not of the origin of the covid. There are only facts. Coronoviruses have been very actively investigated over the past 10-15 years. And it is the viruses of bats. And it is southeastern China. And a strain was obtained that could infect a culture taken from a person. And this culture is pulmonary. Coincidences? Moreover, this was not even hidden, but, on the contrary, it was declared an achievement, because it was done "in order to be ready for possible mutations dangerous for humans." And so this mutation appeared. There was no vaccine, not even close. There was no strategy for dealing with epidemics. treatment tactics as well. Although this was declared the purpose of the research. So what have all these labs been doing all these years? Let me remind you, with the "necessary" strain already obtained.
              Well, and on "little things". Discussion of the pandemic scenario of the coronovirus in September 2019. With the participation of "philanthropist" Gates. Deaths "from vaping" in the States a little earlier. By the way, now for some reason no one remembers the harmfulness of vapes. Etc.
              As the saying goes, one fact is an accident, two is a coincidence, three is a trend.
    5. +1
      7 July 2022 18: 19
      Well, the article was not written for biologists. But for orthodox patriots, for whom there is no violet at least a grain of truth in the article. The main conclusion is who is to blame for all the troubles in this world.
    6. +1
      7 July 2022 22: 45
      Why is Dr. Sachs almost convinced of the artificial genesis of the coronavirus?

      Firstly, because until now, two years later, they cannot find a natural carrier of COVID-19. They say that the forests of half of China have already been searched in vain. It was not possible to turn the reverse trick, that is, to infect mice and pangolins with a human coronavirus.

      What would you say, as an expert in this matter, to this idea of ​​a well-known scientist and economist, who, by the will of fate, happened to lead a specialized commission to investigate the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus?

      I think a lot of people would be interested in your point of view.
      1. +3
        8 July 2022 10: 10
        Yeah, that's it: questions for the scientist-economistWhich almost convinced (conveniently "lay a straw", isn't it?). There is such a thing as "specificity of the pathogen", which is discussed in the 3rd year of the university. For students who wish to think, they give an example of a common, definitely "natural" human flu in origin. Different genetic variants (strains) behave differently towards animals. If you are interested, there is a lot of popular science literature on these topics.
  7. +2
    7 July 2022 16: 59
    As you know, until you catch the thief by the hand, it is very difficult to prove guilt on indirect grounds. Especially in such a delicate matter as genetic engineering.
    That the virus is artificially bred, and so many of us guess, and there are two versions of this, one of them is a deliberate sabotage, the other version says that the virus leak was accidental. But this is from a number of Hollywood horror films. But there is a little voiced third version, a version that is less popular and completely, but plausible - no one did anything for the sake of an abstract fight against overpopulation and no one accidentally broke any test tubes. Everything is much worse - from the very beginning it was about a serious business problem, which was solved not by villains and amateurs, but by large corporations that do not make mistakes.
    It is well known how much the creators of vaccines earned from the fight against the epidemic. Pfizer's revenue for 2021 exceeded $21 billion, Moderna's revenue was $18,5 billion (23 times more than in 2020). The main benefit at the same time was not from direct sales of vaccines, but, as usual in the Western economy, from capitalization - the same Moderna at the end of 2021 reached a level of $ 140 billion.

    Question qui prodest - who benefits? - to ask under such conditions is simply somehow awkward, the answer is so obvious.
    Any information that people are threatened by a new disease must now be subjected to the most serious doubts. The trouble is in the very real danger of extending the criteria now used by Western pharmaceutical companies and medical organizations to the rest of humanity, including Russia.
    1. +1
      7 July 2022 17: 39
      Logically enough. Pharmaceutics, like, in fact, all medicine, has long been a business. Giant business. And it needs "consumers".
      1. +3
        7 July 2022 18: 10
        Quote: U. Cheny
        Pharmaceutics, like, in fact, all medicine, has long been a business.

        Business comparable to the business of drug trafficking.
    2. -1
      7 July 2022 23: 13
      Quote: tihonmarine
      from the very beginning it was about a serious business problem, which was solved not by villains and amateurs, but by large corporations that do not make mistakes


      What makes you think that "big corporations ... don't make mistakes"? There are plenty of examples of mistakes, often catastrophic. From a relatively close and understandable segment of mobile communications: Siemens, Nokia, Motorola ...

      And how do you know that "from the very beginning it was a serious business problem"? Any business task is evaluated in terms of costs, terms, profits and risks. In this case, it is impossible to assess the risks in principle. That is, the business problem of a deliberate man-made pandemic simply does not make sense.

      But when it all started, that's another matter. And perhaps the matter is more serious than it may seem. Big Pharma could well have known and withheld data about the virus long before the start of the pandemic. Well, how not to cut down on this?

      Quote: tihonmarine
      the answer is so obvious


      Obvious answers are often wrong.
    3. +1
      8 July 2022 07: 16
      "Perhaps there will be fish flu tomorrow, because sometimes we produce viruses by controlling them. This is a commercial business. Capitalist companies produce viruses to make and sell vaccines." M. Gaddafi, 2009
    4. +2
      9 July 2022 13: 01
      As for "artificially derived" - just big doubts. But the fact that the entire COVID-1 pandemic is a gigantic business and political project is beyond doubt! Despite the terrible mortality rate, CWI still does not reach the level of malaria, tuberculosis or AIDS. But, what was most important - the CVI, like the flu, did not go through Africa, but frightened the "golden billion"! And here, of course, the countries of the West, 2) have worked out mechanisms for total control over the population (very useful, otherwise they will suddenly vote for Trump or find out the truth about Donbass); and XNUMX) made excellent money on medical services (not only vaccines, but also medicines, consumables, equipment). In general, the KVI "turned up" very successfully. But, it seems to me, if there weren’t a CVI, they would “promote” another topic, since there is enough infection and the population of the West is getting older and older.
  8. +2
    7 July 2022 17: 06
    That's it, an article on the case, otherwise they already started proving on the site that the lancet is a so-so source, and the author is generally an economist wink
    1. +2
      9 July 2022 13: 03
      Excuse me, but what does mem "The Lancet" have to do with it as a source of scientific information? This publication is just a private opinion in the media, and by no means a scientific article. Well, the fact that the author is an economist is true. I think that you, for example, will go to the dentist to fray your teeth, and not to the therapist - so they are both doctors after all. And here - a man in general from a different specialty!
      1. +1
        9 July 2022 18: 18
        The Lancet - the most famous medical journal with a two-century history and an earned reputation that they squander by publishing yellowness - will not be dearer to themselves. And this economist worked for 20 years at WHO, he knows exactly where and by whom and for what it was sponsored, regarding the crown lab. An opinion at least worthy of careful study, and not, as they say here, "some economist in some journal." This is me in short
  9. +2
    7 July 2022 17: 10
    I remember a note from 2020 called
    sars miraculous
    1. 0
      7 July 2022 17: 47
      CoV2 is an apparent chimera based on the bat strain RaTG13, in which the receptor binding site (RBM) in the spike protein is changed from bat to pangolinium, and in addition, a special 4-amino acid site is inserted that created the furin cleavage site, which, as previously virologists have found out, significantly expands the "repertoire" of the virus in terms of whose cells it can penetrate. Most likely, it was thanks to this new furin site that the new mutant managed to jump from the original carriers to humans.
      What animals are zoonotic carriers of SARS-CoV-2?
      Such animals have not yet been found.

      Golden key for a cunning biolab
  10. -1
    7 July 2022 17: 16
    Not bad. I think now we are finalizing the Ukrainian issue and we will deal with the issue of the cornavirus. And behind him a long chain can turn out.
    1. 0
      7 July 2022 17: 54
      From the very beginning of the pandemic, I wrote here that all local experts who are not on salaries from bio centers and on grants from bio companies, from the very beginning of the notorious pandemic, voiced on YouTube that the virus came out of the laboratory. Moreover, they said that any professional even knows from which laboratory, since the equipment, methods and technologies for developing viruses are complex and require sophisticated special equipment, which is produced by a few companies and purchased by a few countries and it is not difficult to trace its supply. The virus is 100% artificial. And the experts know this. Another thing is why our government fell for the WHO panic, who are the beneficiaries of this panic and enrichment at its expense. And why Russia did not conduct its own investigation and from the UN rostrum did not blame the developer and did not demand compensation from him for losses. Why didn't you use such a trump card? To cover up "friend" China, who also has a stigma in the cannon in this matter?
      1. -1
        7 July 2022 18: 19
        Another thing is why our government

        I generally agree, except for the panic. There was no sense in highlighting the facts at the beginning of the spread of the corona, people were dying, others had to be dealt with. But after all the question is not closed up to the end. It is necessary to finally close the issue with the NWO in all directions indicated, especially on the "decommunization" of Ukraine and bringing it to its original state. And then the time will come.
  11. -1
    7 July 2022 17: 24
    Include in the military doctrine the possibility of a preventive strike on objects on the territory of foreign states engaged in biological research and not providing access to the materials of an international commission with the participation of representatives of the Russian Federation. Targets are specified in advance and, if access is not granted, they are attacked without declaring war, as part of countering bioterrorism. As soon as such crap is bombed in Georgia, Kazakhstan or Zimbabwe, the rest will quickly close their shops.
  12. +4
    7 July 2022 17: 56
    Who Invented the Spanish Flu? The disease was caused by the H1N1 serotype virus and affected at least 550 million people 100 years ago. Spaniards?
  13. +1
    7 July 2022 18: 16
    All these searches for the "creators" of COVID are somewhat reminiscent of medieval witch hunts in times of disaster or plague. I would like to believe that people have grown in brains since then, but judging by how the topic "look for a witch!" -not really.
    Covid caused colossal economic damage and not a single large country was interested in releasing it outside. Assuming that it was "sort of by accident", then I will note that modern technologies for genetic editing of viral DNA and "accidental release" are mutually exclusive things if we are talking about large government affairs. There, people also do not sew bags in laboratories ..

    However, despite all this, I fully admit "from the point of view of healthy conspiracy theory" that COVID itself could very well be a wonderful model virus that provides a lot of information on the course of a pandemic, while without an unambiguous and pronounced lethality. If we ASSUME that some group would need to study the effectiveness of the use of bioweapons on a planetary scale, the features of vertical and horizontal spread in society, the speed and typicality of the reaction of the key states of the world, the most stable and most reactive societies and other data necessary for assessing, predicting actions and making adjustments to some activity (if any) planned as a result of this simulation - then Covid would be an almost ideal virus for "reconnaissance" and data collection.
    About how expansively the virus spreads from one source in one country and trade routes, how much time it takes to make relatively effective vaccines, whether there are effective containment measures by any state, and so on.

    With this data in hand AND the ability to masterfully create a bioweapon (assuming that it was created), you can just awesomely plan a viral armageddon so that it starts and unfolds even before the reaction of the "great powers", for example, also polycentric.

    But this is if you allow "conspiracy theories". And so, there is no evidence, the virus is not the core from the Tsar Cannon to which you can get to the bottom.
  14. +2
    7 July 2022 20: 59
    Quote: parusnik
    Who Invented the Spanish Flu? The disease was caused by the H1N1 serotype virus and affected at least 550 million people 100 years ago. Spaniards?

    You will laugh, but the "Spanish flu" was brought to Europe from the USA. laughing
    1. 0
      9 July 2022 14: 15
      There was no biotech back then...
    2. +2
      9 July 2022 14: 55
      Quote: KSVK
      Quote: parusnik
      Who Invented the Spanish Flu? The disease was caused by the H1N1 serotype virus and affected at least 550 million people 100 years ago. Spaniards?

      You will laugh, but the "Spanish flu" was brought to Europe from the USA. laughing

      You will laugh even more - the "Spanish flu" was brought to the USA from China ... Since the USA began to massively import labor migrants to replace local men going to fight in Europe ..
  15. -2
    7 July 2022 22: 03
    Okay, it can't be! But what about the words of Comrade President himself about a year and a half ago that the virus is of natural origin, and here "There it is, Mikhalych" © request recourse
  16. +4
    8 July 2022 09: 17
    The Russian leadership surpassed the most fantastic Marxist ideas about capitalism: they considered that the business of the state was to serve a narrow circle of capitalists, pumping as much money into their pockets as soon as possible.

    This is what rules Russia now!
  17. 0
    9 July 2022 14: 14
    This is the problem - there is no control over mattress covers either from the UN, or even from the allies. They do what they want, and therefore they are the main threat to the world. More and more people are inclined to believe that this whole covid history is the work of the striped ones.
  18. -4
    9 July 2022 15: 23
    It is too early to call this scientist our man in the camp of the enemy, but this point of view should be taken into account.

    Not worth it. It was entirely in the interests of the United States to build normal capitalism in Russia. One in which we would not be disappointed. One for which we would praise our American friends. As a result, they contributed to the construction with us ... that's all that we don't like so much. And they ended up with an enemy in the face of Russia. What post-Soviet Moscow needed, in my opinion: control over the post-Soviet space and equal cooperation with the West. There are no superfluous tricks that Putin can trace today, no special requirements. But no ... so they got the SVO to defeat NATO weapons. An interesting performance for a world already accustomed to being afraid of American military power. But if we were friends with the United States, you see, they could drag us to the anti-Chinese front now.
    So the comrade is worried about his America, and not about someone else. But this is good. You can easily talk with a sincere and competent patriot of a foreign country. Not like with clowns and puppets.
  19. 0
    9 July 2022 18: 56
    Something somehow ..... belatedly. About a year ago, all this was actively discussed on the Internet. There is Yuri Deigin, a Russian-Canadian citizen who is one of the members of the DRASTIC group of like-minded investigators. Even then they dug up that this chimeric virus was created in Wuhan, after the transfer (outsourcing) of research from the United States (due to the ban). There is no 100% evidence, but we can say that 90% are
  20. 0
    11 July 2022 12: 14
    In fact, the conversation is about work on the creation of biological weapons. Where are these protests and urgent demands to convene the UN?
  21. 0
    11 July 2022 22: 28
    This man seems to be brave, especially in such a difficult time to suspect the United States .... This is a real act ... Respect to Jeffrey Sachs !!!!!!!!!!
  22. 0
    15 July 2022 15: 52
    Quote: Civil
    I will use your recommendations. I did not think it was so serious, I attributed it to age.

    Patients with post-Covid at the time of admission are given an MRI screening of the entire body, starting from the head. It's more expensive than CT, but worth it if you've been seriously ill and have a lot of complaints.

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