Railway disaster: Soviet T-64 tank against a German train

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Source: dishmodels.ru

Source: dishmodels.ru

It is generally accepted that accidents associated with military equipment in peacetime usually occur in military units or at training grounds, and the lists of victims mainly include the military personnel themselves. However, sometimes these incidents involve civilian casualties. An example of such a tragedy is the collision of a passenger train with a tank T-64A, which occurred on January 19, 1988 in East Germany.

Tank range near the railway


After the victory in the Great Patriotic War, the USSR deployed the world's largest foreign military contingent in East Germany, best known as the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany (GSVG). Its maximum number reached almost three million people, although it varied from year to year.



To accommodate such a huge compound, both newly built bases and those inherited from the Nazi regime were used. The latter included Forst Zinna. Located near the town of Jüterbog in Brandenburg, this military unit from 1934 to 1945 served as a base for the SS, a tank school and a place for accommodation for Wehrmacht soldiers.

Forst Zinna. Mechanics-instructors of heavy tanks. 1970s. Source: yaplakal.com

Forst Zinna. Mechanics-instructors of heavy tanks. 1970s. Source: yaplakal.com

With the advent of the USSR, Forst Zinna, having changed its appointment several times, eventually became the location of one of the Soviet tank training units. It is worth noting that the former German base was ideally suited for this role: there was a fairly large tank training ground on its territory, and the Berlin-Halle double-track railway, which expanded logistical capabilities, passed literally within walking distance.

However, the railway workers themselves were wary of this section and among themselves called it the “shooting stage”. And indeed, the tanks scurrying almost close to the tracks did not inspire confidence - you never know, suddenly, in front of the train, they will jump out onto the road or hit by a training projectile on the train. As it turned out later, the fears were not in vain.

Before the disaster


On January 19, 1988, in the afternoon at the Leipzig railway station, a fast train of the East German railway administration "Deutsche Reichsbahn" was preparing to depart, following the route "Leipzig - Berlin - Stralsund". At the head of the train of 12 passenger cars and one restaurant car was the DR Class E11 electric locomotive, which was considered quite fast and capable of accelerating to 120 km / h. This subsequently became one of the factors that led to severe destruction and loss of life.

Electric locomotive DR Class E11. Source: en.wikipedia.org

Electric locomotive DR Class E11. Source: en.wikipedia.org

Meanwhile, it is worth noting one interesting fact. The fact is that this direction was quite popular with the Germans, so the train often packed under a thousand people. However, on that ill-fated day, there were 450 passengers on the train. A happy accident that saved many lives, because the cars packed to capacity could significantly increase the list of victims.

Closer to 18:00 local time, the train was already approaching a section of the road near the Forst Zinna training ground.

At this time, regular training races were held at the tank training ground. There is no single point of view about what preceded the further development of events. But it is most logical to assume the following.

It's winter outside. Daylight is short, so by five o'clock in the evening it is already dark. An inexperienced driver was sitting behind the levers of the T-64A tank, which was maneuvering around the field. At the same time, the movement, most likely, was carried out using a night vision device, so the instructor, who was sitting in the commander’s seat, and the driver could lose their orientation in space. This is, in fact, what happened.

At some point, the driver completely strayed from the route and moved towards the railway. The instructor did not notice this immediately, so he gave the order to brake untimely. But for some reason the command did not reach the driver, and he continued to move, stopping right on the tracks. The engine apparently died, so both crew members, seeing the approaching train, left the car.

Collision and aftermath


The train was moving at a speed of about 110 km/h. The drivers did not immediately notice the obstacle on the tracks, so when the tank appeared literally in front of their noses, emergency braking was already useless. At 17:50 local time, the collision occurred.

The blow turned out to be so powerful that the 38-ton “sixty-four” was dragged behind the train for about 130 meters. But a tank is not a passenger car that a train can simply demolish. At the time of the accident, the locomotive and part of the cars were twisted so that later, in order to get the victims and remove from the rails what had recently looked like a passenger train, gas cutters and special equipment had to be used.

Tank T-64A after a collision with a train. Source: yaplakal.com

Tank T-64A after a collision with a train. Source: yaplakal.com

Tank T-64A after a collision with a train. Source: yaplakal.com

Tank T-64A after a collision with a train. Source: yaplakal.com

As for the tank, its damage turned out to be serious. The undercarriage and external equipment, including fenders, were badly broken. But inside, as indicated in the sources, only batteries were mainly affected. In general, if desired, the car was subject to restoration.

The first to the crash site, having heard a strong roar, were the Soviet military from Forst Zinna. By promptly embarking on rescue activities, they saved many lives. But not everyone was able to help. Almost instantly, both drivers in the electric locomotive, as well as four passengers, died. Another 33 people were injured of varying severity.

Elimination of the consequences of the disaster. Source: gsvgshniki.ru

Elimination of the consequences of the disaster. Source: gsvgshniki.ru

Elimination of the consequences of the disaster. Source: gsvgshniki.ru

Elimination of the consequences of the disaster. Source: gsvgshniki.ru

A little later, the special services arrived in time: rescuers, doctors and, of course, representatives of law enforcement agencies. A long trial followed.

Who can be called guilty of this terrible incident? It is quite difficult to give a definite answer to this question. The educational purpose of the military unit Forst Zinna already indicates that it could not be located close to infrastructure facilities, since inexperienced crews drove around the training ground, who were just starting to master their specialty and could make gross mistakes. And inside that ill-fated T-64A, not everything was smooth.

According to Russian-language sources, the driver of the "sixty-four" was a native of one of the southern republics of the USSR and did not speak Russian well, which is why he did not fully understand all the instructor's commands. Although later a version appeared that the culprit was not the language barrier, but a disabled or broken tank intercom. However, the fate of these tankers is also not entirely clear. Western authors say that it came to execution, but domestic ones - to disciplinary sanctions.

One way or another, January 19, 1988 became a mournful date in stories the German people, and in terms of the number of victims and victims, this disaster is still considered one of the largest in Germany to this day.
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  1. +32
    5 July 2022 04: 43
    My father served in Germany in the early 50s as a deputy commander of a T-10 heavy tank company. At the railway crossing, the tank of his company stalled. And then a train, its speed was low and the tank was dragged along the rails as if on a sled for some distance. No harm done. Dad thundered in TurkVO, in Mary, where I was born.
    1. +9
      5 July 2022 11: 02
      Quote: andrewkor
      My father served in Germany in the early 50s as a deputy commander of a company of T-10 heavy tanks. At the railway crossing, the tank of his company stalled.

      I have repeatedly traveled from Berlin by train "Leipzig-Berlin-Stralsund" and just my last trip was in 1988, but already in May. Everything was restored, and only in Stralsund, from my Germans, I learned about the tragedy. Our people did not even know, it was forbidden to speak. Although there was a big political scandal and M.S. personally apologized to the GDR. Gorbachev
      Behind the levers of the tank sat cadet Okhapov Zharylgasyn Elamanovich.
      1. +11
        5 July 2022 12: 21
        In Germany, there was another case with tanks. When transporting tanks on railway platforms, the turret on one of the tanks was unlocked (or not locked) and the turret turned with a cannon across the movement of the train. The oncoming passenger train spun the tower and it pierced the train cars with its barrel along its entire length. There were dead.
        After this incident, when transporting tanks on platforms, the tower was additionally stopped: the tank cable was hooked to the hook of the tank, the cable was wrapped around the barrel once and then this cable was hooked to another hook. Now, instead of a cable, the barrel of the gun is locked with a wire, such as a wire rod.
      2. +5
        5 July 2022 12: 39
        Quote: tihonmarine
        I learned about the tragedy from my Germans. Our people did not even know, it was forbidden to speak.

        We in the SGV already knew about it the very next day, then about a week later they read the order on this case to us. True, without details and indications of the surname. Like, in one of the parts of the GSVG there was an incident related, etc., etc., but it was ordered to strictly prohibit the spread of panic rumors, especially those based on reports from Western propaganda media that have nothing to do with reality ... And given that we had no signalmen -there are household receivers, and we often listened to "fresh music" on Radio Luxembourg ...
        1. +1
          5 July 2022 14: 30
          Quote: Fitter65
          We in the SGV already knew about it the very next day, then about a week later they read the order on this case to us.

          Well, we are not SVG, we were civilians, Sovrybflot and Sudoimport.
        2. +1
          5 July 2022 19: 32
          Quote: Fitter65
          Quote: tihonmarine
          I learned about the tragedy from my Germans. Our people did not even know, it was forbidden to speak.

          We in the SGV already knew about it the very next day, then about a week later they read the order on this case to us. True, without details and indications of the surname. Like, in one of the parts of the GSVG there was an incident related, etc., etc., but it was ordered to strictly prohibit the spread of panic rumors, especially those based on reports from Western propaganda media that have nothing to do with reality ... And given that we had no signalmen -there are household receivers, and we often listened to "fresh music" on Radio Luxembourg ...

          Absolutely, a few days later they brought the order about this incident, especially since there was also a tank unit in the unit. But ours rarely even left the pits, the tankers drove to the UTP in Svintoszow for driving.
      3. 0
        5 July 2022 16: 16
        Karakalpak campaign. So they are normal guys. But Russian nifiga did not know.
        1. +1
          5 July 2022 18: 35
          You are definitely talking about them, one of the most literate republics of the USSR and in height. education .
          1. +1
            5 July 2022 22: 22
            Of course, I'm only talking about people I know. Not generalizing.
    2. +1
      7 July 2022 16: 34
      There are 3 holes in the world: Kushka, Prishib and Mary. God gathered all this rubbish and called it "Nakhichevan".
      There was a saying
      1. +3
        8 July 2022 13: 52
        This saying was invented by those who served in Prishib, the Prishib border detachment of the military unit 2013, it was located between Baku and Lankaran, and it was not a hole at all, but for some reason soldier folklore placed Prishib in a hole and I was there and drank honey and beer, and etc., here Kushka is a hole, there horses in the highlands, like flies died, and the soldiers lived and served, one plus in the mountains, no mosquitoes for you, no mosquitoes with horseflies ....
        1. +1
          8 July 2022 14: 35
          In what year did you visit Prishib? I was then taken out of Prishib and transferred everything to Azerbaijan
          Therefore, I know very well about the folkler of this hole. As well as about being far from between Baku and Lankaran
          1. 0
            9 July 2022 16: 45
            Well, the Jalilabad station near Prishib is exactly a piece of iron between Baku and Lankaran, and I was there for the last time in 1988, three years before the withdrawal. So you will be from tankers or border guards?
            1. 0
              10 July 2022 11: 24
              Massals are much closer there. At least by military unit 2013, in which I served from 91 to 93. And they took us out later. Simply put, they forgot until 93.
              1. -1
                20 July 2022 00: 07
                So the border guard was in the detachment or at the outpost? The village of Pritinskoe has always been surprising, like the Russians lived, and in the cemetery there is a star of David without crosses. He served 85-88 at the 22nd outpost in the Talysh mountains, then they detained us, Iran fought with Iraq and many deserters came from Iran, whom we caught, they even let us go on vacation for this business ...
                1. +1
                  20 July 2022 08: 22
                  In the squad. VPBS. They went to the outposts in reinforcement. 91-93. The 80s were probably the times of "silence".
                  In the 90s, the system was swept away. The Pskov Airborne Forces were on the rise. After their "efforts", the locals considered us only as an enemy. The paratroopers are gone. Then Ukrainians. Only a quarter left. At some outposts, 9-10 people. Not to the border. We would like to survive. In March 93, the withdrawal and transfer of the border to Azerbaijan began. Also not without "graters". We left for Nalchik. Chechnya didn't let me. We grappled with them at the small station of Tarki. They attacked the train. 2 days 19 combat guards for 19 BC cars. Lossless. Everything was...
                  1. -1
                    24 July 2022 17: 33
                    A platoon of increased b.s., yeah, it was quiet in the 80s, so quiet that we had a VPBS for the 22nd PZ year, when deserters with weapons in the USSR scrambled from the Iraqi war with battles, but it’s easier to hide in the mountains than in Mugan, okay. I don’t understand how Chechnya didn’t let you in, the first Chechen company was already on its way, the barmaley were very eager to BC then, but that means you were lucky. Thanks for everything to the chronicle-Yeltsin, the earth is glassy to him, he put so many people and as much as it should be, for 4 months of NWO the losses are already 2 times more than in Afghanistan for 10 years, that's what the Minsk agreements have done and how much more they will do by giving them Black Sea ports, a damn war is going on, fighters are dying every day, and we have concerts in St. Petersburg every day, hairy thump and have fun, it's disgusting to see all this ...
  2. +7
    5 July 2022 04: 44
    A similar incident in the 80s (with less serious consequences) occurred on the Ulaanbaatar-Sain-Shand railway near the 35th platform crossing (if I'm not mistaken) not far from Choir. The armored personnel carrier could not overcome the rails passing through the desert and was "knocked down" by the following train (traffic intensity - up to 5 trains per day) ... For a long, long time we figured out how:
    1. +3
      5 July 2022 04: 58
      January 19, 1988 was a sad date
      I didn’t hear anything about it .... But, apparently, they didn’t particularly spread about it ...
      1. +9
        5 July 2022 07: 36
        This is something else: 1974, Sevastopol, Balaklava-Kamyshevaya railway line, a train of 3-4 cars passes once a day. So the ensign in broad daylight on a scooter managed to get under him! This is the exact calculation of the time and location! There is a suspicion that he studied as a saboteur ...
        1. +2
          8 July 2022 21: 39
          Construction of BAM. Working trains (tmka and one or two cars) run at a speed of 10-15 km/h. So, one driver (and now he is alive and well, a pensioner) managed to knock down three at crossings in two years! cars! They wanted to take it off, but regretted it. And this is not in one person, with an assistant!
      2. +2
        5 July 2022 16: 42
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        I didn’t hear anything about it .... But, apparently, they didn’t particularly spread about it ...

        Even in the GDR, not a single media informed, although people's radio, of course, blew it.
        1. +1
          7 July 2022 07: 05
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          I didn’t hear anything about it .... But, apparently, they didn’t particularly spread about it ...

          Even in the GDR, not a single media informed, although people's radio, of course, blew it.

          In the local press (I'm talking about Yuterbog) three days later they reported. Even, like, with a photo. And at first, yes, they were silent.
      3. +2
        7 July 2022 06: 56
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        January 19, 1988 was a sad date
        I didn’t hear anything about it .... But, apparently, they didn’t particularly spread about it ...

        Within the GSVG, it seems to me, everyone was aware of it. And on the scale of the USSR Armed Forces, this was an insignificant episode to replicate.
    2. +10
      5 July 2022 06: 20
      What kind of armored personnel carrier is this that "could not overcome the rails passing through the desert area"? Or is it still banal stalled?
      But five trains a day ... well, it was necessary to guess the time like that. laughing
      1. +4
        5 July 2022 09: 22
        But five trains a day ... well, it was necessary to guess the time like that.

        We just rode across the tracks all the time, but only one meets the train. In ZabVO, on the Chita-Zabaikalsk branch, the train passes twice a day. And the cows manage to get under it. There, cows walk by themselves both in winter and in summer. Like stray dogs, they even "rummage around" in the garbage heaps.
        1. +1
          5 July 2022 16: 21
          In those places, tailless and one-legged dogs are not uncommon. Why so dumb? In the villages, even chickens do not climb onto the road.
          1. 0
            5 July 2022 19: 53
            In the villages, even chickens do not climb onto the road.


            Even as they climb, or rather they climbed, almost no one keeps chickens in our district, it’s easier to buy.
      2. 0
        5 July 2022 19: 44
        Quote: Sea Cat
        What kind of armored personnel carrier is this that "could not overcome the rails passing through the desert area"? Or is it still banal stalled?
        But five trains a day ... well, it was necessary to guess the time like that. laughing

        It's all probability theory, damn wink . By the way, at the institute, during a lecture on this science, the teacher told about one case - allegedly in 1924 there was ONE airplane and ONE car in all of Kazakhstan. But one day, the almost unbelievable happened - they collided Yes .
    3. +5
      5 July 2022 16: 20
      For a year and a half in Sain-Shand 2 such cases. And despite the fact that there the train runs exactly once a day. And one move. The probability can be calculated. One case - either the Ural, or the ZIL-131 with the soldiers stalled. Everyone fled. Soft-boiled machine. Another time the T-55 tank (I think). Also stalled in front of the train. The crew ejected in a second. In general, a tank against a diesel locomotive and train means nothing. Like a matchbox flew away. Everyone is alive. This is 87-88 years.
      1. +1
        5 July 2022 16: 51
        Quote: mmaxx
        Like a matchbox flew away. Everyone is alive. This is 87-88 years.

        Here is physics, there's nothing you can do about it:
        1. 0
          5 July 2022 22: 24
          This formula does not describe the departure of the tank from the received impulse. laughing
    4. 0
      11 July 2022 05: 05
      It was like that, the elder brother said he just served in Choira
  3. +9
    5 July 2022 05: 05
    Poles, wire, red-white signs on the wire along the tracks. Is it really that hard...
    There is no clarity about the dead in the article. If there are only 6 and 33 victims out of 450 on a train that collided with a tank at a speed of 110, then this is some kind of miracle.
    1. Alf
      +2
      5 July 2022 20: 57
      Quote: VicktorVR
      Poles, wire, red-white signs on the wire along the tracks.

      Dark time of the day ... And night vision devices with, to put it mildly, a small field of view. And the night light of the 87th year is not a thermal imager of the 2020s.
    2. 0
      5 July 2022 22: 28
      If something bad can happen, it will definitely happen.
      If something can be done wrong, then there will always be someone who will do just that. Well, etc etc
      1. 0
        6 July 2022 07: 58
        Quote: mmaxx
        If something can be done wrong, then there will always be someone who will do just that. Well, etc etc

        And by coincidence, they were found, but they were lucky, they came out "dry", but the switchmen from the officers were found, although the political officer was acquitted six months later.
    3. -1
      10 July 2022 09: 05
      Quote: VicktorVR
      Poles, wire, red-white signs on the wire along the tracks. Is it really that hard...

      Exactly. Is it really difficult for a tank unit that has the appropriate engineering equipment to dig an anti-tank ditch with an embankment along the border of the training ground (along the railway). It turns out - there was no border between civilian and military objects (and the soldiers could freely run AWOL)? Or the landfill was located on both sides of the railway. roads?
    4. AUL
      0
      11 July 2022 09: 09
      Quote: VicktorVR
      There is no clarity about the dead in the article. If there are only 6 and 33 victims out of 450 on a train that collided with a tank at a speed of 110, then this is some kind of miracle.

      In the 60s, there was a railway accident near Kursk. At the end of August, when the children were returning home from Anapa to school, due to the fault of the dispatcher, a freight train went towards the train, along its track. Forehead to forehead. For two days, tanks carried away iron. All the surrounding morgues were filled with corpses. And according to the official version - one victim, the cook in the restaurant carriage was scalded with boiling water. Like this.
      1. -1
        11 July 2022 09: 28
        Quote from AUL
        All the surrounding morgues were filled with corpses. And according to the official version - one victim, the cook in the restaurant carriage was scalded with boiling water. Like this

        Now the tatra will come and write you down as "enemies of the communists".
  4. +2
    5 July 2022 05: 13
    "At this time, regular training races were taking place at the tank training ground" ...
    And what, do tankers have such a term "races"?
    Or is the author not Copenhagen?
    1. +2
      5 July 2022 07: 41
      Probably a playful allegory.
  5. +5
    5 July 2022 06: 06
    Thanks to the author for the article, interesting information.
    80 - e time of disasters. Railway accidents in the USSR, an earthquake in Armenia, and of course the Chernobyl accident.
    1. +11
      5 July 2022 09: 25
      I will add one more thing - on June 5, 1983, not far from Ulyanovsk, the passenger ship "Alexander Suvorov" crashed into a railway bridge across the Volga, along which a freight train was moving. As a result, 176 people died.
      On August 31, 1986, the passenger ship Admiral Nakhimov and the cargo ship Pyotr Vasev collided in the Tsemess Bay, killing 423 people. Yes, the 80s can be called the time of disasters
      1. 0
        5 July 2022 13: 24
        That's right, there were 5 weddings in the last disaster.
  6. +10
    5 July 2022 07: 22
    Oh, drivers from the southern republics, also served in Germany, in Schönebeck. They repaired the UAZ top-mounter in the control platoon, the battalion commander went on vacation, without him he said not to start, something happened with the starter. Well, two drivers decided to make a "gift" to the battalion commander before arriving, they decided to pull and start with a top-mounter on the basis of 66 UAZ, pulled on a cable, started it. But Ochilov confused the gas with the brake, the "gift" turned out to be noble laughing
  7. +10
    5 July 2022 07: 47
    More couple of photos
    T-55

    And this, it seems, is the M60 - not only "heroes" serve with us.
    1. +1
      6 July 2022 00: 01
      More couple of photos
      T-55
      ,, good time of night, Konstantin, I only found this photo,

      Flamethrower tank OT-55, not sharing the road with the locomotive. Leninakan. Armenian SSR. USSR. 1976
      no more info found sad
      1. +1
        6 July 2022 14: 18
        Is there also one railway track for the whole district and a train once a day? wink
  8. +8
    5 July 2022 08: 49
    As for the tank, its damage turned out to be serious. The undercarriage and external equipment, including fenders, were badly broken. But inside, as indicated in the sources, only batteries were mainly affected. In general, if desired, the car was subject to restoration.
    No, this tank was not subject to restoration. I saw him at a repair plant, from the place of impact by a diesel locomotive a vertical crack went along the side of the hull, and what's inside ... In short, they wrote it off and sorted it out
  9. +4
    5 July 2022 09: 35
    Army stupidity is so familiar to the military themselves that they put up with it as inevitable.
    My friend served in the GSVG in the regiment of self-propelled guns. The very beginning of the 80s. The regiment was located in the ancient citadel in the city center. Periodically, the regiment went to the training ground and, in order to less interfere on the streets of the city, left and drove back to its citadel always at night. The Germans, to put it mildly, were very unhappy. Constant rumbling at night shaking houses. The streets are narrow, paved with stone, there was always a fear that someone would enter the house. And so it happened. Once a young driver did not release the gas at a turn and the self-propelled gun went skidding, cut down a hefty tree that was more than one hundred years old and poked into the house. It’s good that nothing collapsed, but in the morning a representative delegation arrived from the Germans with a protest. The command apologized in every possible way. The cut tree was pulled out by the forces of the unit on the same day and another was quickly planted in its place. But the Germans, of course, did not bring much joy. The regiment remained in the citadel.
  10. +5
    5 July 2022 09: 57
    The number of GHA in 3 million?
    If only in 1945-1946 ...
    hi
    1. +2
      5 July 2022 10: 16
      That's it. Before the collapse of the Union in the early 90s, we had the entire size of the army like that. It changed slightly from year to year, depending on the number of military age.
    2. +3
      5 July 2022 11: 07
      Also noticed this number.
      I think it's a bug.
      I also wanted to criticize the author for the Deutsche Reichsbahn, I thought it couldn’t be that there was something left of the Reich in the GDR, but this is true, in Germany there was a Bundesbahn, in the GDR for some reason they left the old name.
      There have always been and will be incidents with military equipment, there will always be "dol---b in the cockpit."
      1. +3
        5 July 2022 13: 26
        In the GDR, it was called the Deutsche Reichsbahn because it dealt with legal matters. The railroad company also owned a lot of land, buildings and houses for railroad workers. Thus, the GDR had a lot of property in West Berlin, as well as in the FRG, which, of course, greatly annoyed the capitalist West.
        1. AUL
          0
          11 July 2022 09: 17
          Das Reich is the state.
  11. -3
    5 July 2022 10: 48
    After so many flights, it was foolish to return to this misfortune. What is the author aiming for? It happened to me, it happened, and the case was investigated. The author somehow forgot that am
  12. 0
    5 July 2022 11: 04
    Building a fence is not destiny? Concrete along a piece of iron? And to inspire all mechanical drivers: DO NOT MOVE the fence !!!
    1. +1
      5 July 2022 22: 30
      There will always be someone who decides to try: will the tank break the fence or not?
    2. 0
      5 July 2022 23: 57
      Concrete along the rail

      . . after this incident was built.
  13. +9
    5 July 2022 11: 52
    According to Russian-language sources, the driver of the "sixty-four" was a native of one of the southern republics of the USSR and did not speak Russian well, which is why he did not fully understand all the instructor's commands. Although later a version appeared that the culprit was not the language barrier, but a disabled or broken tank intercom. However, the fate of these tankers is also not entirely clear. Western authors say that it came to execution, but domestic ones - to disciplinary sanctions.

    ,,,January 19, 1988 at 6 pm, 7 am (Company Mr. Shamshur) 118 UTP just went to the second Forstzinna tank yard for night driving. the cadet, if I’m not mistaken, an Uzbek, was driving with TVN for the first time, and didn’t notice the barrier, drove straight ahead without turning along the route, but didn’t connect the PTT, and having driven out on the piece of iron, he ran into the station building with a gun ---- and died out. The instructor (from 2 BUBTA) tried to pull him out, but while he got out, time had passed. The Akum sat down, there was no air in the cylinders, and then there was a searchlight from the Yuterbog side .... The train was Leipzig-Berlin. 19 people died. The commander of the regiment of the colonel Korzhakov and all the deputies were removed by a special decree of the Politburo Only Voropaev was lucky (NSh was on vacation) Yazov was already in the regiment in the morning. Ours helped to save the victims, there were ours on the train. Of course, it was horror. The electric locomotive (square raspberry) became a ball, five cars were in the trash. At 64, an outer group of tanks banged. The blow was on the starboard side - the left side hoist flew under the viaduct, and this is 150-200 meters along with balancers and torsion bars
    from the Internet.
    1. +1
      5 July 2022 23: 55
      Kazakh driver was
      1. 0
        6 July 2022 00: 05
        ,,, hi may be. What I found on the internet. Maybe you know better? It would be interesting.
  14. +3
    5 July 2022 13: 52
    We also had an emergency there: they pulled out a stuck car, they had to stretch the cable across the road, set up a post to stop traffic on it. Well, the German, turned on Schumacher on a motorcycle, so ... such was the story there.
  15. +6
    5 July 2022 16: 01
    He served at that time, just in the Third Shock Army. The driver was a tractor driver from Kazakhstan, at night he could not navigate the instruments and left the training ground, the commander, if I'm not mistaken, Sergeant Petukhov pulled the tank's emergency stop handle - it didn't work when the tank stalled on the tracks, he pulled the driver out of the hatch and saved him. In our unit, the ARD and ZDF channels immediately showed this on illegal TVs, and in Sosa only in the summer in Red Star they wrote about it.
    1. 0
      10 July 2022 09: 29
      Quote: GSVG 86-88
      the commander... pulled the tank's emergency stop handle

      I never knew that the T64 has a stop valve. Live and learn request laughing
      1. 0
        10 July 2022 18: 16
        The tankers said that on training tanks there is an emergency stop of the tank from the turret, it’s a handle or a button, in my opinion it doesn’t matter, that’s not the point and you don’t need to be clever, I don’t need your comments.
        1. +1
          10 July 2022 18: 31
          Quote: GSVG 86-88
          Tankers said that on training tanks there is an emergency stop of the tank from the tower

          BUT! That is, local homemade products have been finalized ... then it’s clear ...

          Quote: GSVG 86-88
          that's not the point and you don't need to be clever

          And I'm not smart. I served on the T64B, and I never saw a "stop crane" there. That's why I asked.
  16. 0
    6 July 2022 02: 32
    THANK YOU for the article! Now there is a complete picture of what we were brought to build, then in the 88th. Already far from Germany Len.VO. If I'm not mistaken, after that, they demanded that all training equipment be equipped with a "button" for killing the engine from the instructor
  17. -1
    6 July 2022 10: 09
    from the later, among the population where there were "groups of troops", among car drivers - "look to the left, look to the right, is there a Russian "Ural" nearby?
    1. 0
      7 July 2022 07: 21
      Quote: iz odessy
      from the later, among the population where there were "groups of troops", among car drivers - "look to the left, look to the right, is there a Russian "Ural" nearby?

      The percentage of "especially gifted" in all armies is approximately the same. The Yankees, for example, were not weak in West Berlin, they just barraged, it’s just that the number of l / s we and they had was incommensurable, hence the impression.
      1. -1
        7 July 2022 10: 12
        there is no need for scientific and interest, especially since you are just verbiage, you do not have and cannot have confirmed data. It didn’t make sense to somehow humiliate the Soviets, he himself served there. Just remembered
        1. 0
          8 July 2022 14: 30
          Quote: iz odessy
          there is no need for scientific and interest, especially since you are just verbiage, you do not have and cannot have confirmed data. It didn’t make sense to somehow humiliate the Soviets, he himself served there. Just remembered

          I also served there and visited Western Berlin, I saw it with my own eyes. So shtaaa (s)
  18. 0
    8 July 2022 13: 50
    it's still the T-64 is not as strong as the T-72A or T-80B, these are heavier - and they would do more business

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