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APU struck MLRS "Hurricane" in Belgorod

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APU struck MLRS "Hurricane" in Belgorod

Ukrainian armed formations attacked Belgorod. As reported in social networks, the city, presumably, worked out the MLRS "Hurricane". There are damages to houses and victims.


According to preliminary information, the rocket attack was delivered at night, part of it was intercepted by Russian air defense, but about eight ammunition fell on the city. In particular, the streets of Chumichev and Mayakovsky suffered. Eyewitnesses confirm the active work of air defense, as well as a series of explosions in the city.

The shelling of the city was confirmed by the governor of the Belgorod region Vyacheslav Gladkov. According to him, emergency services are now working at the places where the shells hit, information about the victims is being collected, etc. One private house on the street is on fire. Mayakovsky 23.

Half an hour ago, a series of loud noises was heard in Belgorod. (...) All operational services are on site. There are three victims. They have already been taken to the hospital, all the necessary medical care is being provided. (...) Details will come later

- he wrote on his page in "VKontakte".

According to updated data, as a result of shelling from the Ukrainian side, multi-storey and private houses, cars were damaged, partially or completely destroyed. Four people were injured, one is in critical condition. There are reports of three dead.

Preliminary information at the moment: there is partial destruction of 11 apartment buildings along the streets of Mayakovsky, Michurin, Chumichov, Popov and Pavlov. And also at least 39 private residential buildings along Mayakovsky, Popov, Pavlov streets were partially destroyed, of which 5 were completely

Gladkov added.
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  1. antivirus
    antivirus 3 July 2022 06: 34
    +120
    The rooster pecked.
    Thunder boomed. The man has not crossed himself yet.
    Warfare in high-waisted camisoles is not fashionable.
    Waiting on the bridges across the Volga?
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 3 July 2022 06: 50
      +119
      Quote: antivirus
      The rooster pecked.
      Thunder boomed. The man has not crossed himself yet.
      Warfare in high-waisted camisoles is not fashionable.
      Waiting on the bridges across the Volga?

      Today there will surely be 101 Chinese warnings from a spokesman....
      1. Pharmacist
        Pharmacist 3 July 2022 07: 21
        +91
        Again there will be "pinpoint strikes" that in no way damage civilian infrastructure (this is not our method), as a result of which "even more nationalists and Western weapons" will be destroyed. Well, maybe these blows will be a little more than usual. The warnings will be worse than usual. We will hear calls "not to succumb to provocations", and "Kyiv is just waiting for this."
        This is sad. Earth down the dead.
        1. alex neym_2
          alex neym_2 3 July 2022 07: 32
          -1
          And in Kyiv they are impatiently waiting for an answer in order to inflate it to the whole world with a cry: "What are we for?"...
          1. Ablet
            Ablet 3 July 2022 07: 45
            +8
            And he will also declare that it was the Russians who fired on themselves, and the pendrop will sing along with them.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 3 July 2022 13: 19
              +13
              Quote from Ablet
              And he will also declare that it was the Russians who fired on themselves, and the pendrop will sing along with them.

              Our IZ.ru channel has shown that media footage of burning houses in Belgorod is being filed for the shelling of Ukrainian cities by the RF Armed Forces. And the pin / do / sov media is already replicating it to the fullest! They don't shy away from fairies!!!
              ABOMINATION UNIVERSAL am
              And ours are still chewing snot and scratching behind the ear ... This is the question of how ours "promptly" cover events and wage an information war. angry
          2. Ilya-spb
            Ilya-spb 3 July 2022 07: 57
            +37
            Send "Iskander" with special ammunition to Lviv.

            But these are emotions. From the point of view of a military operation, no matter how cynical it sounds, a strike on residential areas does not make sense. It is needed to evoke emotions in us.

            Therefore, let our troops act according to plan.

            But, personally, I would use special ammunition. On military targets at the enemy.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 3 July 2022 13: 39
              +3
              Quote: Ilya-spb
              But, personally, I would use special ammunition. On military targets at the enemy.
              You don't mean NUCLEAR SBP, but increased power, YES!? For example, a volumetric explosion, or thermobaric ... If such, then I agree. And not in cities with a predominantly Russian-speaking population, but in the nesting places of the Nazis - Lviv, Uzh-gorod, Ivano-Frankivsk, Rivne ... There must be some kind of "military targets" there - factories, commandant's offices, garrisons ... Well , if they missed ... this also happens, then war, demilitarization, denazification! And where to go from this?
            2. futurohunter
              futurohunter 3 July 2022 22: 41
              +1
              Ilya-spb
              personally, I would use special ammunition

              Here are those who "personally" usually have a very poor idea of ​​what it is about, and about the consequences of the military and political. Any real use of even one "special ammunition" against any target will bring a momentary effect, and absolutely devastating consequences, and not only for the user ... Put aside harmful and stupid talk!
          3. Sebostyuan
            Sebostyuan 3 July 2022 08: 01
            +40
            Your suggestions? Carry out NWO looking back at the opinion of Kyiv and the West. Wash and so we played in the giveaway.
          4. Alien From
            Alien From 3 July 2022 08: 24
            +37
            If this time again the leadership will chew snot again, the people will not understand.
            1. ohka
              ohka 3 July 2022 10: 22
              +15
              The people are silent... A.S. Pushkin. "Boris Godunov" (Articles 20.3.3 and 20.3.4 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation)
              1. Antonina Ignatenko
                Antonina Ignatenko 3 July 2022 12: 20
                -6
                The people are silent ...
                But the trolls mobilized. And it's enough just to read a tape of organized "angry comments" to understand why Zele and the United States needed this militarily useless action. They need to force the Russian Federation into a tough response and again remind the "world community", and most importantly, the Ukrainians themselves, who is "good" here and who is the aggressor. And then the Ukrainian mothers, whose sons were first taken away, and now they are trying to shave them into recruits, seem to have begun to get lost in the "correct" assessment of what is happening.
            2. Grits
              Grits 3 July 2022 12: 07
              +13
              Quote: Alien From
              If this time again the leadership will chew snot again, the people will not understand.

              Will be, will be. They are not the first time to chew them. In addition, the leadership does not care deeply about the opinion of the people. But Western partners may not understand ...
              1. hector
                hector 3 July 2022 15: 26
                +3
                Quote: Gritsa
                Quote: Alien From
                If this time again the leadership will chew snot again, the people will not understand.

                Will be, will be. They are not the first time to chew them. In addition, the leadership does not care deeply about the opinion of the people. But Western partners may not understand ...

                There are vague suspicions - the answer will be very asymmetric: they will pay off the debt ahead of schedule in order to confirm special reliability and decency to partners, or they will convene some kind of international economic forum or make another gesture of very good will, or maybe all this together.
              2. mikh-korsakov
                mikh-korsakov 3 July 2022 15: 43
                +9
                "Besides, the leadership does not care deeply about the opinion of the people."? But in vain. Those who took the position of unconditional approval, sir, usually refer to the example of the Great Patriotic War. Like, how long would someone live who would dare to PUBLICLY criticize the Sovinformburo, not to mention personally ... But meanwhile the USSR won, as if doing without advisers. But such a comparison is invalid. Because during the Patriotic War there was neither the State Duma nor the liberal press, there were only 2 opinions - official and hostile. But in the modern Russian Federation there is both the State Duma and the liberal press, and even opinions ... Therefore, it is necessary to compare with the times of the First World War, those times in terms of way of life more coincided with the present. And what do we see. As soon as the Russian army was defeated in 1915, the liberal cockroaches came to life, what Milyukov alone is worth, and quickly introduced into the minds of the people that there was treason in the General Staff, that the generals were mediocre, that the queen was a spy, although all this was not so. The people believed. what this led to, I hope, no need to explain. Therefore, the people need to be told the truth, because by the way, front-line reporters respected by me, and not Konashenkov's department, do it.
          5. mikh-korsakov
            mikh-korsakov 3 July 2022 08: 24
            +23
            Are they waiting for answers in Kyiv? Yes, let them wait. It is important that the response is such that Ukraine's desire to shell our cities is gone. And what about GDP, will we chew snot again? Understanding the political consequences, unknown to me, unpleasant for Russia of a strike on decision-making centers in the field of fine diplomacy, I would separate two tasks. The task of hitting the decision-making centers, and the task of punishing the hit on our cities. I would not lay the order to strike as a punishment on Putin, because this one will hesitate and consult, finding out the consequences of our strike. In case of punishment, I would have the necessary ammunition and a set of target designations for Kharkov. A short time after the strike on Belgorod, he would strike a crushing blow on Kharkov, having as targets all industrial enterprises, places of concentration of manpower, not embarrassed in the vicinity of residential buildings, railway infrastructure, including viaducts, traction substations, a freight station. The blow must be of such strength and duration as to cause panic among the local population, so that they run as it was in the first days of the war. It would be sensitive, but let the West go about their vile machinations - we have nothing to lose. As for the means of striking. then they should be dispersed so that the enemy does not guess.
            1. NNikolaich
              NNikolaich 3 July 2022 09: 10
              +30
              Why smash Kharkiv? We then restore it.
              Are there few other cities? Lvov is a very good city, also on the western border, but not in Russia, but on the outskirts. good goal
            2. Old sergeant
              Old sergeant 3 July 2022 10: 06
              +4
              Attack on Kharkov?
              Kharkov is not a regional center. The entire infrastructure cannot be threshed. And why?
              To restore ourselves. The fact that the city will be ours is unequivocal. Golovnyak in the General Staff of Russia is added and added.
              1. NNikolaich
                NNikolaich 3 July 2022 10: 41
                +7
                Why hammer Kharkov???
                There are practically Russian people there, this is a city of a million people, a scientific and industrial center, in general it would be good to take it whole, unharmed and save people.
                And in order to adequately answer, there are other targets on the outskirts, preferably the western outskirts. They hate Russia there, they have already received Polish passports, so you can answer there
                1. Alex Kron
                  Alex Kron 3 July 2022 11: 10
                  +17
                  Don't be fooled. Russians in Odessa were burned, including Russians from Kharkov. They have degenerated there for 30 years of banderization. Only the elderly remained loyal to Russia. Russian in Ukraine does not say anything.
                  1. NNikolaich
                    NNikolaich 9 July 2022 10: 39
                    0
                    After the capture of Berlin, the Germans suddenly improved their eyesight and memory!))))
                    They discovered the crimes of the Nazi Party and the SS....
                    And then the East Germans suddenly became our best friends!
                    And Eastern Ukrainians will. You just need to take Kyiv, and never go back from the left bank of the Dnieper and the southern regions, never!
                    The fate of their country (right-bank) will be decided by the wise people of the outskirts themselves, if our bases there stand from Kiev to Lvov, always
                    1. Alex Kron
                      Alex Kron 9 July 2022 12: 02
                      0
                      Nobody will take Kyiv. This is unrealistic and unnecessary. In the Second World War, 4 fronts advanced in Ukraine, and we have SO.
                      1. NNikolaich
                        NNikolaich 9 July 2022 12: 22
                        0
                        Kyiv will not need to be taken.
                        When the remnants of the Geynazis flee to gay Europe, the wise Ukrainians will quickly line up for Russian passports
                2. mikh-korsakov
                  mikh-korsakov 3 July 2022 12: 01
                  +6
                  Yuri. Kharkiv residents have changed their shoes for a long time. Almost all of them are stoned Nazis, for nothing that they speak Russian. Even in 2014, they took part in the destruction of the trade union building in Odessa. "Other targets" in western Ukraine are currently inaccessible to strikes of such force that people would run from there. It makes no sense to punish "slightly", because, indeed, Kyiv is waiting for a symbolic answer from us, so that later it can be used as a provocation. So there is no way to punish Lvov yet, unfortunately.
                  1. Vlodek
                    Vlodek 6 July 2022 17: 21
                    0
                    I'm not a rocket scientist.
                    Can't you attach a warhead from the "Sun" to the "Caliber"? And for targets in the Lviv region? BUT?
                  2. NNikolaich
                    NNikolaich 9 July 2022 10: 47
                    0
                    No way? Disagree.
                    You can always punish, the main thing would be for what, and that the degree of punishment corresponds to the degree of misconduct (crime)
                    How to punish Lviv?
                    Criminals from the outskirts of the security forces, if they are from the western outskirts, to be judged by the maximum standards, without any regret, it doesn’t matter if a man or a pregnant sniper committed the crime, the sentences should be carried out publicly, covered in the media.

                    Residents of the western regions of the outskirts will very quickly draw the necessary conclusions.

                    Most of the Westerners, it seems, just go to bloody earnings in the Donbass, however, like half of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the past 8 years, they just go to Europe, let them earn money.
                    In general, Khokhliki have settled down nicely in recent decades, women work as prostitutes throughout Europe, and earlier, by the way, in Moscow, and men are hired killers in the Donbass ...
                    The broad suburbs are a nation of murderers and prostitutes!
            3. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 3 July 2022 10: 56
              +4
              It is necessary to beat not on Ukrainians!
              Why not hit the nearest RTR aircraft over the sea?
              Well, the rocket flew away, did the Ukrainians point at a passenger plane? Why can't our rocket target Poseidon?
              And immediately the meaning of the answer will be clear
            4. Edvid
              Edvid 4 July 2022 01: 52
              -1
              Why such consequences.
              There are also special services. It has long been necessary to liquidate the most odious figures in the leadership of Ukraine. In this case, we can refer to the actions of Stalin. His special service "got" enemies anywhere in the world.
        2. Shilov49
          Shilov49 3 July 2022 09: 23
          +11
          It is urgent to move dill from the border, and only in the form of a load - 200. But it is not necessary to wipe Kyiv or Kharkov from the face of the earth. But we should not forget that we will have to restore. Does it make sense to destroy???
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        4. U_GOREC
          U_GOREC 3 July 2022 15: 15
          -1
          Quote from Pharmacist
          Again there will be "pinpoint strikes" that in no way damage civilian infrastructure

          What kind of infrastructure are you? Those are assets! They can then be privatized!
          1. your1970
            your1970 4 July 2022 14: 20
            0
            Quote from U_GOREC
            Quote from Pharmacist
            Again there will be "pinpoint strikes" that in no way damage civilian infrastructure

            What kind of infrastructure are you? Those are assets! They can then be privatized!

            That is, you don’t realize that it’s much more profitable to privatize the ruins? So that later - at public expense - to build them from scratch and get not the ancient times of the USSR, but fresh objects from scratch ....
            For the oligarchs, the infrastructure of Ukraine destroyed to zero is many times more profitable - it’s easier and more voluminous to cut this way ...
            1. U_GOREC
              U_GOREC 4 July 2022 15: 43
              0
              Quote: your1970
              That is, you don’t realize that it’s much more profitable to privatize the ruins? So that later - at public expense - to build them from scratch and get not the ancient times of the USSR, but fresh objects from scratch ....
              For the oligarchs, the infrastructure of Ukraine destroyed to zero is many times more profitable - it’s easier and more voluminous to cut this way ...

              If you are talking about the housing stock, then I agree. And if about industrial facilities ... We are not the USSR, we will not be able to build a lot ourselves, without "partnership" with the outside world ... Azovstal will never be restored!
              1. your1970
                your1970 4 July 2022 16: 51
                0
                Quote from U_GOREC
                And speaking of industrial facilities...

                Just about industrial (including substations), as well as tunnels and bridges.
                Quote from U_GOREC
                Azovstal will never be restored!
                of course ... no one needs competitors ..
                And the Ukrainians themselves ruined the industry there a long time ago, so there is no point in restoring it.
                1. U_GOREC
                  U_GOREC 4 July 2022 17: 04
                  0
                  Quote: your1970
                  of course ... no one needs competitors ..
                  And the Ukrainians themselves ruined the industry there a long time ago, so there is no point in restoring it.

                  But what about the wonderful stories about the production of neon, without which the entire production of chips will die?
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 4 July 2022 18: 14
                    0
                    Quote from U_GOREC
                    Quote: your1970
                    of course ... no one needs competitors ..
                    And the Ukrainians themselves ruined the industry there a long time ago, so there is no point in restoring it.

                    But what about the wonderful stories about the production of neon, without which the entire production of chips will die?

                    And where does Ukraine?
        5. MrTulandra
          MrTulandra 3 July 2022 16: 37
          +2
          Warnings will be worse than usual

          Didn't guess! The warning was funnier than usual: “Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that Moscow “refrains from retaliating against Kyiv’s actions, but is closely monitoring the situation.”
          “If provocations continue, they will not be in trouble,” she added. belay
      2. Taimen
        Taimen 3 July 2022 07: 27
        +71
        People, why are you so inflamed here? It's time to get used to co-operation and liberal nonsense with making money on everything. They laughed at Brezhnev that ": - Eyebrows are black, thick, speeches are long, empty." And now, what? and empty promises for how many years. And you want something to be done. the silence of the lambs is said. And the people should sing hosannas, and not engage in various criticism and freethinking. So, calm down, everything is going according to plan. There will be no reaction (not our decision-making center was hit), therefore they will not be hit either It’s all about garlic. And then they’ve been waiting, since April 21. This is Konashenkov’s blizzard, as the President says. Now everyone is surrounded by him. Either Peskov, then Konashenkov, then Lavrov.
        1. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 3 July 2022 08: 33
          +13
          everything goes according to plan.? Yes, according to the plan, only the plans are different.
          1. Antonina Ignatenko
            Antonina Ignatenko 3 July 2022 12: 05
            -9
            everything goes according to plan.?
            That's it! The fact that the Ukronats pulled themselves together and issued this provocation just speaks of a turning point in the attitude of the Ukrainian people to the war and to Zelensky. The careful attitude of the Russian Federation towards the people of Ukraine is bearing fruit: Zelya appears in his eyes as a ghoul, and Russia as a protector. And Zele urgently needs some kind of response, a blow to Kyiv or something else disgusting, in order to fuel the hostility of the Ukrainians and the entire Western world towards Russia. And to beg for this case some really dangerous weapon, well, money, the stump is clear.
            1. mikh-korsakov
              mikh-korsakov 3 July 2022 14: 14
              +4
              Since such a thing has gone, then I personally do not give a damn about what Zelensky and world syphilization need. They have already decided everything among themselves and are supplying Ukraine with quantum satis weapons. One thing is clear to me, that an attempt to bomb Russian cities should lead to such consequences that it would no longer be disgusting. As for the opinion of the Ukrainian people, until now, the attitude towards the Russians has improved with the surrender of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into captivity, while also, lo and behold, there has been a retraining. They quickly turned from real fighters into chefs. In place of the competent authorities, I would give the task to such a "cook" to cook at least buckwheat porridge.
        2. bandabas
          bandabas 3 July 2022 09: 38
          +17
          Transfer this company of "talking heads" to Belgorod.
          1. Elephant
            Elephant 3 July 2022 12: 23
            +10
            Quote: bandabas
            Transfer this company of "talking heads" to Belgorod.

            At the same time, Shoigu from Moscow with his ministry, so that they feel for themselves
            1. DenVB
              DenVB 3 July 2022 13: 47
              +6
              Quote: Elephant
              At the same time, Shoigu from Moscow with his ministry, so that they feel for themselves

              These are not to Belgorod, these are necessary directly to Donetsk. And with families.
        3. Ivan Ivanov
          Ivan Ivanov 3 July 2022 12: 59
          +5
          With all the richness of choice, 2 ways seem reasonable - move the front line as soon as possible and destroy the high command / political leadership (which should have been done at the very beginning, if possible).
      3. Old sergeant
        Old sergeant 3 July 2022 07: 58
        +10
        Is it MLRS?
        8 shells flew as they say. Houses of multi-apartment and private judging by the photo were not destroyed by 8 shells. In the west, Belgorod destruction will not be seen.
        There will be an arrival in Kyiv, that's for sure, but they will see it.
        And the howl will begin at Ze, let the rockets reach Moscow.
        People feel sorry for the innocent, for any Kharkiv region will be taken in an emergency mode. There is definitely not enough people and technology for everything.
        1. Egg
          Egg 3 July 2022 08: 05
          +23
          There were 3 missiles, 2 were shot down in front of my eyes at 3 am, the third one flew, I heard an explosion at about 3:15, at 3:23 the first videos appeared in the Belgorod teregram channel
          1. hector
            hector 3 July 2022 15: 33
            -1
            Quote: Telur
            There were 3 missiles, 2 were shot down in front of my eyes at 3 am, the third one flew, I heard an explosion at about 3:15, at 3:23 the first videos appeared in the Belgorod teregram channel

            39 private and 10 high-rise buildings were damaged, for three missiles there was too much, they missed more.
            1. Egg
              Egg 3 July 2022 20: 46
              +3
              The explosion of one warhead of point Y is enough to blow out the windows in the surrounding high-rise buildings, the pictures show that private houses around the explosion are damaged, but not completely destroyed. 1 house is completely destroyed, the rest have various degrees of destruction. In fact, all 3 Y points were hit by air defense, but one was shot down too late. I can’t upload the video, but there is one where you can see the explosion of an air defense missile immediately before the explosion of point U. I can send a link to this video on the Belgorod telegram channel.
              Confirmation of the work of air defense is a photo with the tail section of a shell rocket stuck in the wall of the house and the remains of the Tochka U rocket in one of the destroyed houses.


        2. NNikolaich
          NNikolaich 3 July 2022 09: 14
          +28
          If in the near future, without waiting for the end of the liberation of Donbass, dill is not thrown out of the Kharkiv region to a safe distance in order to prevent continued shelling of Russian cities, then all of us Russians may not like it very much.
          What kind of Special Operation is this, during which Russian cities are shot down?
          Special-whose????
          It is clear that our main goal is the liberation of Donbass, but not at the cost of shooting down Russian cities?
          Is it possible that someone in our leadership is seeking instability in Russian society??
          1. NNikolaich
            NNikolaich 3 July 2022 10: 15
            +14
            When the Armed Forces of Ukraine shell the Donetsk cities, we reassure ourselves, like this NVO is going through there, anything can happen ...
            But what the hell is the SVO, if Russians are proud of being fired upon!
            Then it's not your own, it's war!

            This means that we urgently need to adequately answer on Ukrainian territory, from Kyiv to Lviv, on infrastructure elements, bridges, electrical substations, shitty pipelines
            1. Vlad1097
              Vlad1097 3 July 2022 11: 57
              0
              The Defense Ministry has all the means to deliver a massive retaliatory strike on the entire western logistics infrastructure of Ukraine, there are no problems to assemble 2000 OTRK missiles and cruise land-based and air-based ones - only the General Staff are very indecisive in this regard. In general, it was necessary in the first days to destroy two or more thousand objects of the military infrastructure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine until they came to their senses and not within 4 months when the Armed Forces of Ukraine distributed all their forces throughout Ukraine with ammunition and equipment that you could cover them with.
              1. Ivan Ivanov
                Ivan Ivanov 3 July 2022 13: 02
                0
                GSH has nothing to do with it, it's politics
                1. Vlad1097
                  Vlad1097 3 July 2022 17: 45
                  -3
                  Just and - because the brakes.
            2. sailor
              sailor 3 July 2022 23: 17
              +1
              To answer, we need fighters, a lot of fighters! But the situation in Russia is such that if you announce mobilization now, everything will scatter like rats in all directions. This is only in words all the heroes, but just touch and zilch, they were blown away! Who will go to war for Russia now, the generation of Morgenstern, Milokhin and the like, the generation of burgers and cola? A generation that served, if it did, then 12 months, for which they didn’t even understand which side to keep the machine? Funny, to say the least! Leberesnya, over the years of her reign, has done everything to eradicate the Russian spirit in Russia.
              1. NNikolaich
                NNikolaich 6 July 2022 10: 16
                0
                There is no need for any mobilization, why such extremes ....
                Just increase the term of military service by six months ~ a year, perhaps, depending on the type of troops
      4. AUL
        AUL 3 July 2022 08: 50
        +25
        Everything is going according to plan, you say? I wonder who made this plan?
        According to preliminary information, the rocket attack was delivered at night, part of it was intercepted by Russian air defense, but about eight ammunition fell on the city.

        Preliminary information at the moment: there is partial destruction of 11 apartment buildings along the streets of Mayakovsky, Michurin, Chumichov, Popov and Pavlov. And also at least 39 private residential buildings along Mayakovsky, Popov, Pavlov streets were partially destroyed, of which 5 were completely
        Was it all done by 8 shells? belay
      5. T.A.V.
        T.A.V. 3 July 2022 09: 12
        +28
        One gets the feeling that its population is not important. They play don’t understand what, while our civilians in the Russian Federation are being shot. All that remained was to rush and threaten with Chinese warnings.
        Because of this "impotence" and not be afraid of us, all sorts of mongrels, such as Lithuania, not to mention the United States, etc.
      6. lucul
        lucul 3 July 2022 09: 39
        +1
        Today there will surely be 101 Chinese warnings from a spokesman....

        Mmmm ...
        The article says
        As reported in social networks, the city, presumably, worked out the MLRS "Hurricane"

        Was it really the Hurricane MLRS, or maybe it was the HIMARS MLRS? Have you already studied shell fragments?
      7. navigator777
        navigator777 3 July 2022 09: 45
        +11
        I already wrote that there will never be a strike on acceptance centers, and if there is, then the deterrent will disappear and everything that can fly to Belgorod will fly every day, without stopping, like in Donetsk and Russia NOTHING! can't do it with it. They hit Dontsk and Yasynuvata, did they do something? Nothing! because they can't.
        1. Vlad1097
          Vlad1097 3 July 2022 12: 02
          +5
          Nichrome was to withdraw troops from the Chernihiv Sumy region - now we are raking away from the most stupid "Gesture of good will" on the part of our General Staff and the government.
          1. Goha
            Goha 3 July 2022 15: 34
            +1
            Because they didn’t deliberately introduce it and many of our people died.
            1. Vlad1097
              Vlad1097 3 July 2022 17: 47
              0
              And they deduced that automatically made our losses there generally useless.
      8. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 3 July 2022 10: 02
        +9
        Quote: Starover_Z
        Quote: antivirus
        The rooster pecked.
        Thunder boomed. The man has not crossed himself yet.
        Warfare in high-waisted camisoles is not fashionable.
        Waiting on the bridges across the Volga?

        Today there will surely be 101 Chinese warnings from a spokesman....

        Most likely, in this case, he will modestly keep silent.
      9. Grits
        Grits 3 July 2022 12: 05
        +4
        Quote: Starover_Z
        Today there will surely be 101 Chinese warnings from a spokesman....

        As well as another co-operation on "decision-making centers"
      10. Goha
        Goha 3 July 2022 15: 31
        +1
        The warning has already taken place! The Russian Foreign Ministry, represented by Zakharova, said: Moscow is refraining from retaliatory steps to Kyiv's provocations, but is monitoring the situation.
        1. Vlad1097
          Vlad1097 3 July 2022 17: 48
          -2
          Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs is frank crap.
      11. BSD Fan
        BSD Fan 3 July 2022 18: 28
        0
        What are you saying?! Not! A gesture of goodwill will be made to support the UN's efforts to eliminate the tears of a child in suburban London!
    2. Dikson
      Dikson 3 July 2022 06: 52
      +4
      . no one fights with such pockets ..!
    3. belovvladimir
      belovvladimir 3 July 2022 06: 53
      +33
      Well, now let's see, the response from the Ministry of Defense, otherwise it’s just words, words, it’s time to hit the Nazis and the decision-making centers!
      1. from Dagorlad
        from Dagorlad 3 July 2022 07: 01
        +15
        Do you yourself believe in it? In 1940 there was already one "strange war" now something similar, unfortunately
      2. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 3 July 2022 07: 05
        +36
        Quote: belovvladimir
        Well, now let's see, the response from the Ministry of Defense, otherwise it’s just words, words, it’s time to hit the Nazis and the decision-making centers!

        At least the high-voltage lines supplying Kyiv should be separated with step-down substations, but that's all, not 1-2! So that the whole city feels, otherwise they feast, fatten in their center!
        1. ARIONkrsk
          ARIONkrsk 3 July 2022 07: 31
          +19
          All western railway tracks and stations should be demolished, as well as railway bridges and tunnels.
          1. Ablet
            Ablet 3 July 2022 09: 01
            +14
            It's long overdue. Only now we need road bridges to boot, so that Europe can only be reached by swimming or on wings.
            1. NNikolaich
              NNikolaich 3 July 2022 09: 34
              +7
              Start with the tunnels on the border with Poland
            2. SKVichyakow
              SKVichyakow 3 July 2022 10: 05
              +6
              Quote from Ablet
              It's long overdue. Only now we need road bridges to boot, so that Europe can only be reached by swimming or on wings.

              It is necessary to destroy all existing crossings: railway, automobile, pedestrian.
      3. Grits
        Grits 3 July 2022 12: 14
        +1
        Quote: belovvladimir
        Well, now let's see, the response from the Ministry of Defense, otherwise it’s just words, words, it’s time to hit the Nazis and the decision-making centers!

        What to watch? We already know what will happen - but nothing will happen. Let's swallow this, not the first time.
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 3 July 2022 06: 59
      +54
      We urgently need a new "goodwill gesture" from the Kremlin, with the withdrawal of troops from their positions in order to show their unnecessary peacefulness! Didn't Putin say that once he swung, then strike first? Why are our Russian lands still shelled with impunity? a couple of hundred kilometers deep into the country? Out of fear of offending the "Kremle partners? Well, everything is clear, the missiles are not hitting the Kremlin.!!!
      1. aglet
        aglet 3 July 2022 08: 03
        +3
        "Well, everything is clear, the rockets are not hitting the Kremlin.!!!"
        before that, not long left. xhoxly guys are handy and big-headed, they will come up with something. another thing, there is no one in the Kremlin
      2. Grits
        Grits 3 July 2022 12: 18
        +5
        Quote: Thrifty
        Why are our Russian lands still shelled with impunity? Why don't we move the borders a couple of hundred kilometers deep into the country?

        Because they were preparing to beat NATO, roll tanks to Lisbon. What to take from them, from the NATO members - jerked off shells. But faced with Ukraine. And it turned out to be cooler than NATO, because Russian people also live there. Truth with a broken head.
        But seriously, it turned out in fact that our army is not so great, and not at all the second in the world. And that we don’t have enough strength at all.
    5. MBRSS
      MBRSS 3 July 2022 07: 06
      +18
      The answer should be exclusively in Kyiv. Iskanders. Moreover, the goals (infrastructure facilities) can be announced in advance, in order to avoid human casualties.
      1. NNikolaich
        NNikolaich 3 July 2022 09: 36
        +4
        By Lviv!!!
      2. Grits
        Grits 3 July 2022 12: 19
        +3
        Quote: MBRBS
        Moreover, the goals (infrastructure facilities) can be announced in advance, in order to avoid human casualties.

        When hitting the Rada, I would not have announced in advance
    6. value
      value 3 July 2022 08: 29
      +16
      Soon we will hear from the Plywood Marshal that everything is going according to plan. Well, if it was Kozhegutovich's plan, then why do we need such a government.
    7. Evil 55
      Evil 55 3 July 2022 11: 13
      +2
      If they shoot, it means they have the opportunity .. The firing radius of 9K57 is forty kilometers and from Belgorod to the border in a straight line 37 km, which means that the shooting was carried out either from the territory of the Russian Federation or from the very border area. Which also does not reassure ... They perceive these attacks are like a kind of "Doolittle raids", and our units, for some reason, cannot push the enemy further deep into his territory .. hi
    8. Dingo
      Dingo 3 July 2022 11: 26
      +9
      Better along Rublyovka and Barvikha ...
    9. Antonina Ignatenko
      Antonina Ignatenko 3 July 2022 11: 52
      -7
      What our government really needs to do yesterday is to deanonymize the Internet. You look at all these aglets, antiviruses and sergeys under all serial numbers, read how they turned on! Add to this the provocateur Khodakovsky, the incomprehensible Leonkov and Tatarsky, "Older Edda", whose name carries Chubais a mile away, and a bunch of other pseudo-patriots, and the conclusion will be the same: the entire media field of Russia is crammed with national traitors. And on the side of the Kremlin - solid stupid sing-alongs. Well, at least make life difficult for them, make it stand for something along with the name of the ah-pee, or else how to keep track of who is scribbling all these vile things from where!
      1. aglet
        aglet 4 July 2022 07: 41
        0
        "Look at all those aiguillettes,"
        dear lady, what do you have to my comments? Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I express it. If you don't like it, argue, prove me wrong. our authorities have made so many mistakes in this campaign that you have to be Antonina Ignatenko not to notice this and approve all their actions
        "Or else how to keep track of who is scribbling all these vile things from where!"
        can you give an example of those infamies that I, according to your "scribble"? and yet, your nickname is no better than mine, and carries just as much information. I’m not hiding anywhere, although there are methods, a specialist in the service will easily determine all my coordinates, if the authorities need it, well, or at your request, write a cart to the prosecutor’s office that I’m an extremist, I’m spreading something and insulting your feelings, and you immediately it will become easier, you will begin to sleep peacefully, your appetite will appear, and finally, life will get better
        "And on the side of the Kremlin - solid stupid sing-alongs. Well, at least complicate their life, make them stand for something along with the name"
        did you notice it too? I don't get it, why make life difficult for them?
        "Look at all these aglets, antiviruses and sergeys under all serial numbers, read how they turned on!"
        it's you who suddenly turned on, and I haven't turned off for a long time
  2. Dikson
    Dikson 3 July 2022 06: 36
    +74
    ..According to preliminary data, there is partial destruction of 11 apartment buildings... And, as always, journalists.. - "pops were heard in Belgorod at night." - Residents applauded, right? How tired of this insinuating diminutive lie!!! Call a spade a spade already! There, people are dying under explosions, on our territory, we have been "conducting special operations for 4 months, yeah .." But we still have "claps" and "gestures of good will" .. Have you fought, waited for long-range weapons?
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 3 July 2022 06: 44
      +73
      Have you fought, waited for long-range weapons?

      It's just that Ukraine is fighting for real, and our Kremlin inmates still do not lose hope that Europe will like it again.
    2. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 3 July 2022 07: 00
      +21
      11 high-rise buildings are already more than 8 rockets. And 39 more private. belay
      1. Vlad1097
        Vlad1097 3 July 2022 12: 08
        -1
        Something tells me that not 8 missiles flew there, but 80, possibly from Tornadoes and Hurricanes, and possibly 155 millimeters worked actively with reactive ones that can hit 42 kilometers.
      2. Gvardeetz77
        Gvardeetz77 3 July 2022 15: 25
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        11 high-rise buildings are already more than 8 rockets. And 39 more private. belay

        At the top, they believe that our people do not know how to think and count and believe what is said in the main media without a shadow of a doubt, well, this is conditional: "prices for goods and communal services are growing by 20-25%, salaries and pensions by as much as 5%, and purchasing power and life against this background improves twice, "according to official statistics ...
    3. Pharmacist
      Pharmacist 3 July 2022 07: 43
      +25
      Did we pretend to believe that Kyiv would not use long-range systems? Were they brought? Well, here are the first flowers. By the way, the Izvestiya channel reports that long-range MLRS fired at Melitopol twice. It was a night, only mats...
    4. aglet
      aglet 3 July 2022 08: 04
      +20
      "How tired of this insinuating diminutive lie!!! Call a spade a spade already!"
      get used to it, it's newspeak
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 3 July 2022 08: 14
        +14
        I’m not going to get used to it .. - it’s already old, so that I can be retrained .. And I don’t throw out the letter Y from words .. - you need to respect and love your native language ..
        1. aglet
          aglet 3 July 2022 08: 56
          +5
          "And I don’t throw out the letter Yo from the words .. - you need to respect and love your native language .."
          like
    5. zurbagan63
      zurbagan63 3 July 2022 08: 08
      +16
      "pops were heard in Belgorod at night"

      There were also "loud sounds", they were afraid of words in essence.
  3. Al manah
    Al manah 3 July 2022 06: 36
    +10
    They hit the squares.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 3 July 2022 06: 42
      +14
      Quote: Al Manah
      They hit the squares.

      Well, you're right Captain Obvious.
  4. evgen1221
    evgen1221 3 July 2022 06: 39
    -9
    During the week, we should expect precipitation in calibers in Kukuev then. Weather forecast from mo rf.
    1. Sergey3
      Sergey3 3 July 2022 07: 08
      +13
      I do not believe!!! Yes, and not a caliber is needed there, but working out in deep bunkers.
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 3 July 2022 08: 30
      +4
      Do you believe the weather forecasts?. Such a storm is needed here. Moreover, from Kharkov and Sumy to Uzhgorod ..
    3. Xenofont
      Xenofont 3 July 2022 09: 04
      +10
      Rozhin writes that four Iskanders were fired across Kharkov, moreover, two at one point. This, of course, is good, but it is time to resolve the issue radically, because the credibility of the authorities with such a trend will be greatly undermined.
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 3 July 2022 09: 23
        +6
        Quote: Xenofont
        for the credibility of the authorities with such a trend will be greatly undermined

        already! and it will most likely not be possible to restore it!
    4. Grits
      Grits 3 July 2022 12: 24
      0
      Quote: evgen1221
      During the week, we should expect precipitation in calibers in Kukuev then. Weather forecast from mo rf.

      laughing laughing gee gee. Swimming, we know...
  5. Dimy4
    Dimy4 3 July 2022 06: 41
    +44
    Now, if it's like that again, then we'll ask how. MMM yeah. What words to say here except obscene I do not know.
    1. Grits
      Grits 3 July 2022 12: 26
      +1
      Quote: Dimy4
      Now, if it’s like that again, then we’ll ask how

      This is probably the surprise from Gerasimov's trip.
  6. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 3 July 2022 06: 42
    +50
    And we keep pretending like nothing happened. Normal, right? Why the hell do we continue to stubbornly ignore the fact that it is necessary not only to carry out the NMD in the Donbass, but to strike with serious forces towards Kyiv and Lvov? That until we cut off all the routes for the supply of weapons from Poland and Romania, physically, and not with the help of missile strikes, they will not stop attacking our territory? If there is a war against the West, then how long can you almond with the Nazis?
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 3 July 2022 06: 53
      +34
      Always strains this pronoun "we". There is no need to compare yourself with the liberal generals and others who are waiting for the return of partnership.
      It’s interesting to me that these people will not even symbolically appoint a person responsible for what happened. I would like to ask in the spirit of Joseph Vissarionovich, "What will Comrade Putin say?" However, it is important not what he says, but what he does. yes, and will it.
      1. aglet
        aglet 3 July 2022 08: 08
        +9
        "What will Comrade Putin say?"
        Comrade Putin will say a lot of things, as always. everyone will like it, only after half an hour he will already forget what he was talking about
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 3 July 2022 06: 54
      +3
      Spread-finger strike is your strategy. We won't cut them. There are always ways. They don't get equipment non-stop. Smudging a few MLRS installations is a fairly simple task. Come back to reality already. These are shares. They take a long time to prepare. They do not affect the strategic objectives. These blows are so that later we would throw tantrums here. There is no XNUMX% protection. The air defense worked great. In Kursk, everything was shot down. Here one flew. Think about what is the purpose of such actions.
      1. taiga2018
        taiga2018 3 July 2022 07: 05
        -9
        Quote: carstorm 11
        . These blows are so that later we would throw tantrums here.

        Exactly so. And after all, those who are actually happy with these blows, those who, on this wave of hysteria, are trying to arouse dissatisfaction with the majority of the ongoing NWO, will be hysterical to a greater extent.
        1. cmax
          cmax 3 July 2022 08: 03
          +21
          Quote: taiga2018
          Quote: carstorm 11
          . These blows are so that later we would throw tantrums here.

          Exactly so. And after all, those who are actually happy with these blows, those who, on this wave of hysteria, are trying to arouse dissatisfaction with the majority of the ongoing NWO, will be hysterical to a greater extent.

          I'm dumbfounded by your logic ...... to whom (you) - hysteria, and to whom in Belgorod the morgue today and the cemetery tomorrow. You don't want to be in their place.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 3 July 2022 08: 18
            +12
            These will soon openly begin to talk about hatred for Russia. look at Taiga someone puts pluses. for what he said they are shooting at Russia, this is hysteria, Russians are dying, this is garbage.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 3 July 2022 08: 33
              -12
              Who says it's bullshit? These are the realities of combat. This happens sometimes.
            2. taiga2018
              taiga2018 3 July 2022 10: 00
              -7
              Quote: Gardamir
              for what he said they are shooting at Russia, this is hysteria, Russians are dying, this is garbage.

              Do not attribute to me what I did not say, dear ...
          2. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 3 July 2022 08: 21
            -3
            Logic? This is reality. Do you want logic? OK. How can this blow affect military operations? No. But for people, yes. And you prove it. Yes. This is a big grief for someone. And I sympathize with them from the bottom of my heart. But there will be victims and it is foolish to deny it. The goal is to minimize them. I assure you soon they will switch to terrorist attacks. Intimidate the population.
          3. taiga2018
            taiga2018 3 July 2022 09: 59
            -12
            Quote: cmax
            and to whom in Belgorod the morgue today and the cemetery tomorrow.

            Since you just don’t give a damn about those who are in the morgue and in the cemetery, the main thing for you is to raise a wave by joining the choir of liberalism ...
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 3 July 2022 07: 38
        +5
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Spread-finger strike is your strategy. We won't cut them. There are always ways. They don't get equipment non-stop. Smuggling several MLRS installations is a fairly simple task.

        Write - hit "Hurricane"
        Full package - 16 pcs. Air defense worked out as best they could, but they could not shoot down the full package. The distance is annoying. At "Hurricane" 36 km. And the map gives 37 from the border to Belgorod. Maybe to the center of Belgorod, but in reality, to quarters, less ... Although they could have gone abroad a little. An obvious provocation. To provoke a cruel "response"...
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 3 July 2022 07: 49
          +3
          I don't think it's a hurricane. Yesterday, the states issued an analyst - the Armed Forces of Ukraine, probably planning to strike with weapons supplied by the West on the positions of the Russian Armed Forces throughout the Kharkiv region. And here it is. Somehow I don't believe in coincidences. In Kursk, the same blow at the same time. The distance is even greater. Air defense shot down everything. And for the reason, I almost agree with you. But my opinion is that they want us to start cleaning Kharkov.
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 3 July 2022 09: 16
            +3
            Quote: carstorm 11
            I don't think it's a hurricane. Yesterday, the states issued an analyst - the Armed Forces of Ukraine, probably planning to strike with weapons supplied by the West on the positions of the Russian Armed Forces throughout the Kharkiv region

            I guess you are right. HIMARS is notable for its slow launch. And the distance is right.
            They will collect the fragments, clarify ... And it would not hurt to let the "Dagger" through the bunker on Bankovaya. Purely for demonstration purposes. I hope our General Staff has the exact coordinates of the bunker ...
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 3 July 2022 09: 32
              +3
              Just understand me correctly. It will be very good if it is HIMARS. Because this chatter that 404 promised not to shoot in the Russian Federation got it. The fact that yesterday the states were talking about the fact that with each installation a person rides who will not allow it to be done and other nonsense. The time has already come to recognize as an enemy all this community of freaks that this weapon gives them. This will free many from the remnants of illusions.
        2. Dikson
          Dikson 3 July 2022 13: 22
          0
          They are already writing - under the cover of MLRS, several Tochek-Us were fired .. here you have "one shell fell" ..
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 4 July 2022 05: 30
            0
            Here on etgm vidro everything is visible and clear. I know about trying to overload the air defense, but it did not work.
            https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/86502
      3. aglet
        aglet 3 July 2022 08: 11
        -4
        "There is no XNUMX% protection. The air defense worked perfectly. In Kursk, everything was shot down. Then one flew. Think about what goal is pursued from such actions."
        I'm more interested in what is the purpose of such comments. Everything is going according to plan, isn't it?
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 3 July 2022 10: 16
          -8
          Quote: aglet
          Quote: carstorm 11
          There is no XNUMX% protection. The air defense worked great. In Kursk, everything was shot down. Here one flew. Think about what is the purpose of such actions

          I'm more interested in what is the purpose of such comments

          carstorm 11, unlike local hypojers, writes from the point of view of an ordinary military man.

          You can not understand.

          Quote: aglet
          Everything is going according to plan, isn't it?

          No. Now there will be adjustments to the plans. Already answered:

          Quote: https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/
          In response, they worked out from Belgorod in Kharkov - 5 Iskanders were fired, 2 of which entered the same target
      4. sniperino
        sniperino 3 July 2022 08: 16
        -6
        Quote: carstorm 11
        These blows are so that later we would throw tantrums here.
        You can't really say. Therefore, all those throwing tantrums about this in the media should be considered as accomplices of the ukrovermacht, and the degree of their sanity should be determined by the investigation. There is probably a super task: to cause hysteria in the General Staff so that they start bombing Ukrainian cities like the Germans did in 41.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 12: 28
          +2
          Or maybe you should be shot as an accomplice of the people who created this whole situation?
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 3 July 2022 21: 25
            0
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Or maybe you should be shot as an accomplice of the people who created this whole situation?
            That is, this whole situation in Ukraine was created not by the Americans, whose accomplice you are, but by someone here? I'll try to guess. Putin? It is not necessary to transfer arrows from their owners to our president; they muddied it all up, and ours have to rake it.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 4 July 2022 12: 04
              -2
              Quote: sniperino
              That is, this whole situation in Ukraine was created not by the Americans, whose accomplice you are, but by someone here? I'll try to guess. Putin? It is not necessary to transfer arrows from their owners to our president; they muddied it all up, and ours have to rake it.

              Screwed up for the umpteenth time security in his repertoire. The Americans are not my friends and partners, but your president. And it was not me who built Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Your demagogy will not work. I remember everything about the May decrees and about other promises that were forgiven the people once again. You tell me that the Americans have been squeezing the plants squeezed out during privatization to dryness for 30 years and leading them to bankruptcy. Or those people whom Putin promised that there would be no revision of the results of privatization? It's not just about Putin, it's about a rotten system. Which led to the fact that as a result of success in foreign policy, we are now essentially in a besieged fortress. From which the bastions are repulsed one by one. Such successes that almost Belarus did not disappear. It seems that the Americans prevented our nouveaux riches from developing the economy for thirty years. It was they who forced them to banally rob their people through the wildest corruption schemes, giving all sorts of bulk justifiably to criticize the current authorities for corruption. All this was done by the Americans. So it turns out that in fact, protecting this system, it is you who work for the Americans, and not me.
              1. sniperino
                sniperino 4 July 2022 13: 33
                0
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                It seems that the Americans prevented our nouveaux riches from developing the economy for thirty years.
                Miracle! A miracle happened on the forum! The blind man has seen.
                Now they are shooting themselves in the foot to prevent us from moving forward with a confident step.
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 4 July 2022 15: 18
                  -1
                  Quote: sniperino
                  Miracle! A miracle happened on the forum! The blind man has seen.

                  In your case, the miracle did not happen. Your confident tread is the hysterical jogging of a decrepit nag driven into formation. Into which, with your help, this country has also been turned. Your pathetic attempts at sarcasm are as disgusting as yourself.
                  1. sniperino
                    sniperino 4 July 2022 15: 44
                    0
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    Your confident tread is the hysterical jogging of a decrepit nag driven into formation... Your pitiful attempts at sarcasm are as disgusting as yourself.
                    I'm not talking about my step, ghoul; I'm talking about the confident step of my country into history, which I observe from the couch online. I admire her, most and the best part of the world admires her. And you, fecal thrower, spoil the picture for me with your disgusting communication. Yes, I hope it's clear.
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 4 July 2022 16: 56
                      -2
                      Quote: sniperino
                      I admire her, most and the best part of the world admires her. And you, fecal thrower, spoil the picture for me with your disgusting communication. Yes, I hope it's clear.

                      It is clear that you are a banal demagogue. He admires Russia, which you parasites lost in 17. With poor, illiterate peasants, no medicine, backward industry and science. I don’t need such a Russia for nothing. And you need a Russia that will drown you parasites in your own shit. And finally return to the path of communism.
        2. Grits
          Grits 3 July 2022 12: 31
          +1
          Quote: sniperino
          There is probably a super task: to cause hysteria in the General Staff so that they start bombing Ukrainian cities like the Germans did in 41.

          Personally, I would not be against Lviv, Ternopil, Rivne and other cities nearby.
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 4 July 2022 11: 40
            0
            Quote: Gritsa
            Quote: sniperino
            There is probably a super task: to cause hysteria in the General Staff so that they start bombing Ukrainian cities like the Germans did in 41.

            Personally, I would not be against Lviv, Ternopil, Rivne and other cities nearby.
            There may not be enough bombs for London, Washington, Houston, Silicon Valley...
      5. NNikolaich
        NNikolaich 3 July 2022 09: 41
        +1
        "Come back to reality, it's like just a stock..."
        You explain this to the families of the victims and the dead. They will believe you, our people believe a man with shoulder straps
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 3 July 2022 10: 09
          -5
          Action in the sense that a single. What to tell them? That there is a war going on 40 km from their city? For 4 months they could already understand it. From that day on, their lives will change even more. Now they are waiting for the air raid siren at night. For the transition to the shelling of cities from 404 on our side dictates this. Today a lot has changed.
          1. Dikson
            Dikson 3 July 2022 11: 46
            +5
            By and large, the difference is small - call it hysteria or hype, or something else .. Just, let's at least on this resource, which is called "military review", and not "glomour in camouflage", call shelling - shelling, explosions - explosions, and not "claps", but frank failures and mistakes - mistakes, and not "variable successes" and other conveniently streamlined words ..? If there is success - let it be so, if there is trouble - do not pretend that nothing is happening .. Because those who shout - "we will hit with a nuclear club!" Where are our "Iskanders?!" - no better than those who lament - "Now he will fly to Moscow!" or - "tanks ran out!!!" .. Air defense worked, did it work? Well done.. Did you miss it? It’s bad .. well, we haven’t built the “Iron Dome” along the border with Ukraine .. There will be more arrivals and sabotage on the railways .. that’s why civilian airports are closed in southern Russia .. it’s clear for what reasons ..
      6. AdAstra
        AdAstra 3 July 2022 10: 48
        +3
        And about air defense, I think the inhabitants of the destroyed houses and the relatives of the dead and wounded will not agree.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 3 July 2022 11: 55
          -2
          And who will condemn them for this? But the inhabitants of those houses in which it flew but didn’t hit will say. Air defense is not a panacea. And their responsibility is the wildest. Judging by the remnants of a shell from a marching rocket on one of the houses, they worked. But she fell anyway. IMHO of course
          1. AdAstra
            AdAstra 3 July 2022 12: 03
            +2
            You tell the Jews about this with their "Iron Dome".
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 4 July 2022 05: 35
              -2
              What can I say?) 2011 to 2020, according to the Israeli Ministry of Defense, she hit 85 percent of all targets. It?
      7. Antonina Ignatenko
        Antonina Ignatenko 3 July 2022 10: 55
        +5
        These are shares. They take a long time to prepare. They do not affect the strategic objectives. These blows are so that later we would throw tantrums here.
        Yes, and, as the comrade above said, so that we would commit some kind of useless atrocity in return, after which Europe would shudder and put some kind of prodigy in Kyiv. But there are big questions about well-functioning air defense. Fifty destroyed houses - shitty air defense work. Bad intelligence work. We have not been at war for a very long time, we simply do not have highly qualified specialists in the military fields. Add here an extremely delicate attitude to the infrastructure of western Ukraine - and here is the result. Now the most adequate answer is the complete destruction of all corridors for the supply of military equipment.
        1. volodimer
          volodimer 3 July 2022 12: 20
          0
          This is very true:
          so that we commit some kind of retaliatory useless atrocity, after which Europe would shudder and put some kind of prodigy in Kyiv

          I myself still cannot decide whether it is good or bad that in 2014 Russia did not go to war. Financially, it was right. It shows how the ruble neighed over the dollar. In the military too. But many other moments have become against us.
          In one of the branches, a colleague wrote that a decade and a half ago he said that "the Chechens and I still have to sit in the same trench, and now ... we and the Ukrainians will soon have to sit in the same trench again"
          And he is absolutely right. This dispute between Russians and Russians, who, although they deny their "Russianness", but even in this denial they show their Russianness. But sooner or later, this dispute will be over. And together we will pay attention to the mongrels-instigators who pitted us. And the less stupidity will be committed on both sides, the faster the flame of enmity will go out. After all, together we need to clean out the rot that has grown both in Russia and Ukraine. (I don't usually post в and even more so the name of that country with a capital letter, but I respect those patriots who, like us, hoped for 30 years that Ukraine would be a prosperous country that aims at the happiness of its citizens. And we got what we are now fighting with)
        2. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 12: 31
          -1
          Quote: Antonina Ignatenko
          Yes, and, as the comrade above said, so that we commit some kind of useless atrocity in return,

          Why the hell do something useless? You have to do something useful. Having demolished some kind of Rada in Kyiv.
      8. Vlad1097
        Vlad1097 3 July 2022 12: 13
        0
        They inflict such strikes because Russia does not have hundreds and thousands of strike drones such as Forpost and Inohodtsev, which monitor the entire border with Ukraine day and night and immediately destroy the detected positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      9. Third district
        Third district 3 July 2022 13: 00
        +3
        Quote: carstorm 11
        The air defense worked great. In Kursk, everything was shot down. Here one flew. Think about what is the purpose of such actions.

        Did one fly? Was she the one who destroyed 11 apartment buildings?
      10. Dilettante grandfather
        Dilettante grandfather 3 July 2022 16: 42
        +1
        There is 150% protection. Eliminate the possibility of supplying weapons. Physically. We have 777 people who are engaged in SVO. The army is much larger. If, as we are constantly told from every flat iron, the West is waging war against us, then we should not be foolish with western Ukraine. We must strike, and strike decisively. In the absence of ammunition, no MLRS, no XNUMX, and other systems will be able to work on our territory.
  7. NSV
    NSV 3 July 2022 06: 42
    +14
    We are waiting .... we are still waiting ... strikes on decision-making centers ... encirclement of Kharkov ....
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 3 July 2022 06: 50
      +18
      Well, if even now ours do not answer as promised, it will generally be .....
      1. AlexVas44
        AlexVas44 3 July 2022 07: 30
        +11
        Rather, it will not happen at all, as before there was nothing for it.
      2. North Caucasus
        North Caucasus 3 July 2022 07: 34
        +4
        Well, if even now ours do not answer as promised, it will generally be .....
        Promising to marry or repay a debt does not mean that it will be so! A promise for a promise! It seems that we also did not impose sanctions against anyone, and we did not declare war on anyone. So, purely domestic disassembly of business entities! wassat
    2. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 3 July 2022 06: 53
      +12
      Quote: NSV
      We are waiting .... we are still waiting ... strikes on decision-making centers ..

      In the foreseeable future, will we wait ...?
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 3 July 2022 07: 08
      -2
      They want to pull us back to Kharkov. That's the point of this schizophrenic hit attempt. They already did this with Donetsk not so long ago.
      1. aglet
        aglet 3 July 2022 08: 14
        +3
        "This is the point of this schizophrenic attempt to strike. They already did this with Donetsk not so long ago"
        This is not an attempt at a blow, this is quite a full-fledged blow. and with Donetsk they still do what they want, and when they want
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 3 July 2022 08: 29
          -2
          From the strike on two cities, one ammunition flew. Finish the fucking circus. Increasing the intensity of blows in an attempt to switch attention to another direction.
          1. aglet
            aglet 3 July 2022 08: 47
            +9
            "From a strike on two cities, one ammunition flew"
            does it mean that half of the ammunition in one city could damage 50 houses, 5 of them were completely destroyed, kill 2 people, injure three more? and if we consider that this was announced by the authorities, then the numbers are probably different. I see the circus in the actions and inactions of the Russian military commanders - the supreme commander in chief, the minister of defense, the chief of the general staff. well, maybe I forgot someone, so you remind me
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 3 July 2022 08: 53
              -9
              Well, look. Video a lot. Inaction? In the fifth month of the war, it would be time to understand that it is at least going on. And that the Ukrainians will hit the cities exactly as much as they have the ability and desire to do it. And the only way to stop it is to win it. During this time, these blows are several. But this is the first in residential buildings in a big city. And the realization of the fact that the likelihood of shelling of border settlements is obvious can reach people. What do you want? What action? What do you need to voice if everything is open and in plain sight? What needs to be done so that people like you stop suffering forever?
              1. aglet
                aglet 3 July 2022 09: 00
                +9
                "What needs to be done so that people like you stop suffering forever?"
                venerable, I do not suffer at all, but I just gave you the facts. it is you and people like you who are suffering here, trying to justify all the actions and inactions of the authorities
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 3 July 2022 09: 08
                  -6
                  I am a mon cherie cynic. And I take it easy. As well as to yubymi losses. And the fact that you only answer this, I had no doubt. You same engraving about power tryndet. Any specific suggestions?
                  1. aglet
                    aglet 3 July 2022 09: 57
                    +1
                    "And the fact that you only answer this, I had no doubt."
                    the stump is clear, the only coherent sentence to which one can at least somehow answer. not answer the same set of letters
                    "And the realization of the fact that the likelihood of shelling of border settlements is obvious can reach people. What do you want? What actions? What do you need to voice if everything is open and in plain sight?"
                    Any specific suggestions?
              2. aglet
                aglet 3 July 2022 09: 02
                +1
                "In the fifth month of the war, it would be time to understand that it is at least going on. And that the Ukrainians will hit the cities exactly as much as they have the ability and desire to do it."
                I don’t know this, you made a mistake with the address here. you write to Putin, he, in my opinion, is still not in the know
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 3 July 2022 09: 09
                  -6
                  Everyone is aware. Everybody knows. So I repeat - any suggestions?
                  1. aglet
                    aglet 3 July 2022 09: 51
                    +3
                    "So I repeat, are there any offers?"
                    there is. stop pretending that we are at war, and fight like an adult.
                    "Everyone knows. Everyone knows."
                    did Putin answer you? It means that the process is important to him, not the result. what are your suggestions? Or are we just asking questions?
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 3 July 2022 10: 16
                      -8
                      Ah, got it. Shooter fan.
                      I have? Local only. But I think analysts have also issued them a long time ago. There are enough smart people in the Moscow Region and with a lot of experience.
                      1. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 12: 34
                        +3
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        There are enough smart people in the Moscow Region and with a lot of experience.

                        We have already seen this on the march to Kyiv and the submarine cruiser Moskva.
                      2. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 4 July 2022 05: 38
                        0
                        What did they see? Mistakes? Failures? What happens without them? The strength of any system is its ability to fix and rebuild them.
                      3. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 4 July 2022 11: 47
                        -1
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        What did they see? Mistakes? Failures? What happens without them? The strength of any system is its ability to fix and rebuild them.

                        So all the way through, rebuilt on the Serpentine, and still hoisted Thor to cover the bare fifth point on the super patrol ships. And yes, once again they promised to work on drones in three shifts. Promises are very good at fighting. Is not it?
                      4. carstorm 11
                        carstorm 11 4 July 2022 12: 16
                        0
                        On tori not to me. For shock drones, do you have another way? The plant started working in November, if anything. A lot of shifts need staff. And good. Got it and go ahead. The error is being corrected. Here it is generally easy for couch theorists to betray everything to criticism. 98 percent of the truth or the term served or even passed by but criticize from the heart. Any chain reveals flaws and you either fix them or lose. So far, we have corrected our history.
              3. DenVB
                DenVB 3 July 2022 09: 10
                +13
                Quote: carstorm 11
                What needs to be done so that people like you stop suffering forever?

                It is necessary to end the NWO and start a war with Ukraine.
          2. AUL
            AUL 3 July 2022 10: 12
            +9
            Dmitry, do you consider the rest of the members of the forum to be complete DBs?
            Preliminary information at the moment: there is partial destruction of 11 apartment buildings along the streets of Mayakovsky, Michurin, Chumichov, Popov and Pavlov. And also at least 39 private residential buildings along Mayakovsky, Popov, Pavlov streets were partially destroyed, of which 5 were completely
            You will still argue that this is "One ammunition flew out of a strike on two cities."? Hold back a little your official zeal, do not disgrace yourself!
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 4 July 2022 05: 40
              0
              Why such thoughts? Can you rate this video?
              https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/86502
              My opinion is that there was not a cassette warhead, but a high-explosive one. Hence the consequences. And when you read the report, understand one thing. There, even broken glass and torn frames are included. This data is given to eliminate the consequences. There are hundreds of photos and videos of damage there. Evaluate the consequences yourself and do not try to shame me.
  8. faiver
    faiver 3 July 2022 06: 43
    +18
    the earth rest in peace .....
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 July 2022 06: 44
    +52
    ??? We waited. From individual strikes by helicopters, UAVs, mortar attacks to a massive attack by the Uragan MLRS. The feeling of impunity completely untied the hands of the Kyiv regime. If every blow on our territory was followed by a stronger blow (without looking back to the West) on their cities and not only on military facilities, but also on administrative, transport infrastructure, bridges, overpasses ..., then I’m sure that before shooting at side of Russian territory would have thought five times. Our excessive loyalty brings only the opposite results.
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 3 July 2022 06: 54
      +18
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Our excessive loyalty brings only the opposite results.

      Impunity corrupts
      1. Fedor Sokolov
        Fedor Sokolov 3 July 2022 07: 17
        +17
        Impunity breeds permissiveness!
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 3 July 2022 07: 32
          +4
          Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
          Impunity breeds permissiveness!

          Well, it's practically the same
        2. Grits
          Grits 3 July 2022 12: 42
          0
          Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
          Impunity breeds permissiveness!

          It's just another "goodwill gesture"
    2. North Caucasus
      North Caucasus 3 July 2022 07: 38
      +14
      ??? We waited. From individual strikes by helicopters, UAVs, mortar attacks to a massive attack by the Uragan MLRS. The feeling of impunity completely untied the hands of the Kyiv regime. If every blow on our territory was followed by a stronger blow (without looking back to the West) on their cities and not only on military facilities, but also on administrative, transport infrastructure, bridges, overpasses ..., then I’m sure that before shooting at side of Russian territory would have thought five times. Our excessive loyalty brings only the opposite results.
      We recall the experience of Dresden and Nagasaki. Who accuses the US of inhumanity? But Germany and Japan are bad friends with the USA!
    3. NNikolaich
      NNikolaich 3 July 2022 09: 58
      +11
      When we hear on TV about another act of goodwill, each time the country freezes in horror: something will happen again ...
      Give someone a blunt head already, so that they stop talking about acts of goodwill!
    4. Antonina Ignatenko
      Antonina Ignatenko 3 July 2022 11: 03
      -8
      If every blow to our territory was followed by a stronger blow (without looking back to the West) on their cities
      Evona like trolls excited! They don't even try to maintain a semblance of common sense. They pretend that they do not know who portrays the authorities in Ukraine. Yes, these dolls - the worse, the better. They just provoke us to unmotivated cruelty. They do not care about the country and the people. Or do you not understand it yet?
  10. sgrabik
    sgrabik 3 July 2022 06: 46
    +20
    Such actions need to be monitored, controlled by our borderlands, how can this be allowed, it is clear that the Americans supply dill with intelligence from satellites, but what about our intelligence, where are the satellites, where are the UAVs ???
    1. Sergey3
      Sergey3 3 July 2022 07: 05
      +14
      And what's the point? Air defense is not capable of intercepting all Uragan MLRS missiles if several packs of them are fired in one gulp. I would not be surprised if it was not a Hurricane, but imported systems.
      1. O. Bender
        O. Bender 3 July 2022 07: 16
        +11
        Do you agree about imports, himars? I think they will soon install the fragments, but will they say .....
      2. North Caucasus
        North Caucasus 3 July 2022 07: 50
        +12
        Yes, no air defense is needed here. Here we need means of counter-battery combat. Tracking and suppression in real time. Nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons! These are modern weapons systems, not nuclear weapons. Satellites must track, drones. Do we have this? Attack drones must hang. Do we have them? Just fired a volley, immediately flew. Do the columns move at night? No sound bearing from a drone? Spacecraft explore the composition of planets at a distance, but we can not determine the concentration of metal, gunpowder and exhaust gases? Well, what kind of nonsense?! Acoustic waves (from motors) and radiation from cellular and radio communications cannot be determined either? Even in the Second World War there were means to determine by sound. Solzhenitsyn even served there. What, so degraded technology?
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 3 July 2022 08: 19
          +9
          What, so degraded technology?
          not technique, generals
          1. Antonina Ignatenko
            Antonina Ignatenko 3 July 2022 11: 07
            0
            Ordinary specialists also never received proper practice. Everyone served very relaxed. But some of the generals should, of course, be fired, and some should be shot.
        2. Serafim
          Serafim 3 July 2022 08: 23
          +3
          Nah .... The most powerful weapon is treason, betrayal at the level of the country's leadership and smaller ones. Here's where to work. And much cheaper than putting the industry on a war footing.
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 3 July 2022 10: 45
            -1
            Quote from Serafim
            betrayal at the level of leadership of the country and smaller

            And now the impudent svezhereg has gone!


            Just hatched, and already teaches "where to work" ... a mess, IMHO laughing
            1. bondrostov
              bondrostov 3 July 2022 11: 56
              -3
              Yes, you, too, have been here for 10 years. And except for change, current things cannot be explained.
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 3 July 2022 12: 04
                -5
                Quote: bondrostov
                Yes, you, too, have been here for 10 years

                I've been here since 14. And by the way, we are "acquainted" yes

                Quote: bondrostov
                And except for treason, current things cannot be explained

                Well, you've always been somewhat, ahem, primitive request
                1. bondrostov
                  bondrostov 3 July 2022 12: 19
                  +1
                  Perhaps familiar. Nick is familiar with you. Only lychek why not. New nickname? Well, maybe I'm primitive. Yes, only the facts indicate that all these multi-move leads, to put it mildly, to bad consequences.
                  1. Repellent
                    Repellent 3 July 2022 12: 24
                    -2
                    Quote: bondrostov
                    the facts show that all these multi-move leads, to put it mildly, to bad consequences

                    Everything is just beginning yet, it is too early to talk about the consequences.

                    Shelling of cities - yes, this is a problem, it must be solved. And I think it will be solved.
                2. Kuzyakin15
                  Kuzyakin15 3 July 2022 16: 49
                  0
                  Repellent:
                  Yes, you are also not a giant of thought.
                  Not a single sensible comet, except for sticking labels.
                  Yes, and under the old Nicks did not shine with the depth of thought and analysis.
                  1. Repellent
                    Repellent 3 July 2022 16: 59
                    +2
                    Quote: Kuzyakin15
                    you are not a giant of thought either

                    In the horse-text of this site, it is rather a compliment: the so-called "Giant of Thought" is a local plus, from the old ones.

                    Quote: Kuzyakin15
                    Not a single sensible comet, except for sticking labels

                    Not everyone thinks so, fortunately ... I repeat: "Kuzyakin", your opinion is insignificant for me yes laughing
    2. AlexVas44
      AlexVas44 3 July 2022 07: 31
      -5
      But our satellites are above all, further than all!!! fellow
    3. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 3 July 2022 07: 33
      -4
      Quote: sgrabik
      , where is the UAV ???

      You can’t hang UAVs along the entire perimeter of the border
      1. Dude
        Dude 3 July 2022 08: 14
        +16
        Quote: Seryoga64
        Quote: sgrabik
        , where is the UAV ???

        You can’t hang UAVs along the entire perimeter of the border

        Really?
        It's strange, but for some reason NATO members succeed! Take a look at the Flyradar, for fun, see how many reconnaissance UAVs (and manned reconnaissance aircraft) along our borders around the clock wandering around?
        Maybe that's why we can't do it, what we have, elementary no machines of this class?
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 3 July 2022 08: 29
          -6
          Quote: Dude
          It's strange, but for some reason NATO members succeed!

          Because they have many more of them. And here they mostly hang over the Donbass
          1. aglet
            aglet 3 July 2022 10: 00
            +3
            "Because they have many times more"
            what are we talking about
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 3 July 2022 10: 11
              -4
              Quote: aglet
              what are we talking about

              They started talking about the need to cover the entire border of the UAV
          2. Dude
            Dude 3 July 2022 13: 06
            +5
            Quote: Seryoga64
            Quote: Dude
            It's strange, but for some reason NATO members succeed!

            Because they have many more of them. And here they mostly hang over the Donbass

            Not just “many times more” than ours, we don’t have UAVs of such a class as Triton or Global Hawk at all.
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 3 July 2022 13: 22
              -1
              Quote: Dude
              we don’t have UAVs of such a class as Triton or Global Hawk at all.

              And that too
        2. NNikolaich
          NNikolaich 3 July 2022 10: 54
          +5
          As I understand it, we don’t have a single AWACS aircraft in the NWO zone? And even in the vicinity does not fly?
          Are they not needed at all? Or do we not have enough?
          If not enough, then why not produced?
          There are not enough aircraft factories?
          I would like to hear the opinion of the experts
      2. Whowhy
        Whowhy 3 July 2022 08: 39
        +2
        In principle, it is possible to "hang" airships with early warning locators and even anti-missile batteries ....
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 3 July 2022 08: 57
          +3
          Quote: whowhy
          In principle, it is possible to "hang" airships with early warning locators and even anti-missile batteries ....

          Do we have them?
          1. Whowhy
            Whowhy 3 July 2022 09: 36
            +2
            Separately.... request
            1. Seryoga64
              Seryoga64 3 July 2022 09: 53
              +1
              Quote: whowhy
              Separately....

              What separately???
              A separate airship, a separate locator, a separate anti-missile battery? laughing
              1. bondrostov
                bondrostov 3 July 2022 12: 04
                +3
                Separately, buy brains for many members of the forum! Airships, locators.... A branch of the madhouse... Mobilization must be announced. And fight, not play
      3. Vlad1097
        Vlad1097 3 July 2022 12: 17
        -3
        Hang - there would be a desire.
    4. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 12: 39
      +9
      Quote: sgrabik
      but what about our intelligence, where are the same satellites, where are the UAVs ???

      Our UAVs and satellites have been transformed into loot on the accounts of our capitalists. In yachts, villas, mansions, apartments in London and New York. Do you want Rogozin to sing a song instead of a companion?
      1. Dude
        Dude 3 July 2022 13: 10
        +1
        Do you want Rogozin to sing a song for you instead of a companion?
        No, better, let him jump on the trampoline. Although, no, it’s not necessary - it’s a pity for the trampoline!belay
  11. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 3 July 2022 06: 48
    +10
    Well, that day has come ... Hurricane? They had them up to this point. So it's very doubtful. Today a serious Rubicon has been crossed by 404. And they decided to do this for very serious reasons. If the air defense had not worked out, there would have been hundreds of victims. Why do they need it? After all, a no brainer that the answer will be very serious. And the only reason is to force us to switch to Kharkiv.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 3 July 2022 07: 38
      0
      Quote: carstorm 11
      Why do they need it? After all, a no brainer that the answer will be very serious. And the only reason is to force us to switch to Kharkiv.

      I agree with the train of thought.
      But rather - to stretch the front to the Sumy region.
      You are right.
      To divert Russian forces and stop the rout in the Donbass.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 3 July 2022 07: 52
        +2
        Well, this too. One will still pull the other. It can even be simplified. North. And diverted from the south.
      2. aglet
        aglet 3 July 2022 08: 21
        +2
        "To divert Russian forces and stop the rout in the Donbass."
        it is very far from destruction. very
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 3 July 2022 08: 33
          0
          Quote: aglet
          it is very far from destruction. very

          write three times "very"
          the essence of this will not change
          choose a different word for what is happening
          1. aglet
            aglet 3 July 2022 08: 38
            -2
            "the essence of this will not change"
            venerable, it's my business, how many times what to write, the meaning does not change from this. or do you have some secret information about the grandiose successes near Donetsk? No? me too
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 3 July 2022 08: 48
              0
              Quote: aglet
              venerable, it's my business, how many times what to write

              certainly
              and when a commentator writes "the defeat is still far away", I understand what he means.
              but when I read "to defeat is very far. very", it makes no sense to puzzle over what was meant

              Quote: Flood
              choose a different word for what is happening

              instead of the word "destruction"
              I guess you understood this phrase differently
              1. aglet
                aglet 3 July 2022 09: 05
                +1
                "but when I read "to defeat is very far away. very", there is no point in puzzling over what was meant"
                I am glad that you understand that the defeat is very far, very
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 3 July 2022 09: 15
                  -1
                  quite the opposite
                  "far away" is a relative term.
                  and "very, very" smears a layer of logic in space and time until it is completely lost
                  therefore makes no sense
      3. DenVB
        DenVB 3 July 2022 09: 15
        +1
        Quote: Flood
        But rather - to stretch the front to the Sumy region.

        The Sumy region is an ideal place to strike at the rear of the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and at the same time encircle Kharkov. Actually, it should have been done back in March.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 3 July 2022 09: 17
          +3
          Quote: DenVB
          The Sumy region is an ideal place to strike at the rear of the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and at the same time encircle Kharkov.

          In the presence of forces and means.

          If, on the other hand, there are no excess military forces available for new hundreds of kilometers of the front, then this will mean only one thing - the withdrawal of the necessary forces from other directions and the leveling of fire superiority in decisive sectors.

          Which, among other things, will allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to return to the March tactics of bites on the territory poorly controlled by the Russian Armed Forces.
          1. DenVB
            DenVB 3 July 2022 09: 22
            0
            Quote: Flood
            in the presence of forces and means

            It's true. You can't get back what you've lost. It's time to start collecting new ones. And preferably faster. Time does not work for us.
          2. aglet
            aglet 3 July 2022 09: 46
            -1
            "In the presence of forces and means."
            who prevents the red army from advancing from Donetsk? the shortest communications passing through friendly territory, the possibility of at least some kind of reconnaissance from the DPR, if one does not have one, the cessation of shelling of Donetsk, if this is really necessary. but no, normal heroes always go around. via Kharkov to Donetsk is closer than via Donetsk, and not so expensive
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 3 July 2022 10: 10
              0
              Quote: aglet
              via Kharkov to Donetsk is closer than via Donetsk, and not so expensive

              Quote: DenVB
              Sumy region
              1. aglet
                aglet 3 July 2022 10: 18
                +1
                "Sumy region"
                this is even further, but, in principle, it is possible through Kyiv, as we immediately planned
            2. DenVB
              DenVB 3 July 2022 10: 40
              +1
              Quote: aglet
              who prevents the red army from advancing from Donetsk?

              From Stalingrad, you probably wanted to say? What is the Red Army?

              Quote: aglet
              via Kharkov to Donetsk is closer than via Donetsk, and not so expensive

              I did not understand anything. Through Sumy to Donetsk further than through Donetsk. But not so costly.

              Quote: aglet
              normal heroes always go around

              Well, actually yes. These are the basics of military science. They fight headlong into the fortified defense, painfully and persistently, only the heroes are alternatively gifted.
              1. aglet
                aglet 3 July 2022 11: 52
                +2
                "From Stalingrad, you probably wanted to say? Which Red Army?"
                do not pretend to be alternatively gifted, you understand everything perfectly. but I can help a little, why go to Donetsk through sums, if it’s closer through Rostov? just don’t talk about fortified areas, no one has seen them yet, just like 20 meter dungeons on Azov
                1. DenVB
                  DenVB 3 July 2022 12: 22
                  0
                  Quote: aglet
                  Why go to Donetsk through Sumy, if Rostov is closer?

                  I don't know why go to Donetsk. Donetsk has long been ours.

                  Quote: aglet
                  just don’t talk about fortified areas, no one has seen them yet

                  You can go to the front and have a look.
                  1. aglet
                    aglet 3 July 2022 16: 25
                    0
                    "You can go to the front, have a look."
                    these excuses of yours, you can do it yourself, you yourself prove that there is something besides knee-deep curved grooves, if it were something more serious, they would have been playing for days on all channels and sites. as in Mariupol, underground fortifications, 20 meters deep, fortresses and pillboxes screamed,
                    but it turned out - the usual factory technological channels
                    1. DenVB
                      DenVB 3 July 2022 16: 44
                      -1
                      Quote: aglet
                      you can do these excuses yourself, you yourself prove that there is something besides knee-deep curved grooves

                      The level of reasoning is clear.
                      1. aglet
                        aglet 3 July 2022 17: 12
                        0
                        "The level of reasoning is clear"
                        is that your argument? you write from the front, from the trench?
                      2. DenVB
                        DenVB 3 July 2022 17: 18
                        -1
                        Quote: aglet
                        you write from the front, from the trench?

                        Approximately from the same front as you.
                  2. aglet
                    aglet 3 July 2022 16: 29
                    -1
                    "Donetsk has long been ours."
                    If you don't want to go to Donetsk, go to Avdiivka. but in general, this is one of the local strategists, who suggested going to the rear of the Donetsk group through Lisichansk, to the same Avdiivka
      4. bondrostov
        bondrostov 3 July 2022 12: 08
        -2
        The reason is different. So that we hit the infrastructure. And raise a howl. We need mobilization. Otherwise we will lose
    2. North Caucasus
      North Caucasus 3 July 2022 08: 00
      +13
      And how many Rubicons have already been ?! It was a good initial plan. Reach Kyiv and break the outskirts in half with a wedge. Then hit the fortified areas in the rear. But then they outplayed and decided to take the fortifications head-on! And so there would be a threat of encirclement and cutting off supplies. The outskirts would be forced to defend the coast, Kyiv and Donbass. Good spray! But we gave them the opportunity to concentrate forces in the Donbass. Intentionally delaying the operation? What for? Capitalism and the generals decided to make money like that? Have you decided to involve our partners deeper? Or was this situation imposed on us? Who? Or is it the result of army optimization? Reality showed that the optimization was not optimal, and by the end of the year, Shoigu decided to create 12 more military units. Is there a possibility of territory, equipment, uniforms and command staff for these 12 units? Schools seem to have been cut too! Where did Zin's personnel and materiel come from?
    3. aglet
      aglet 3 July 2022 08: 20
      -2
      "the only reason is to force us to switch to Kharkiv"
      why are you so jammed in Kharkov? Now the main goal should be to take Avdiivka and Marinka in order to at least exclude mortars from the shelling of Donetsk
    4. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 12: 44
      0
      Quote: carstorm 11
      And the only reason is to force us to switch to Kharkiv.

      What the hell Kharkov? It is important for them to shake the people in Russia and raise the morale of their people. With which they successfully coped. And such filthy guards as you only play into the hands of these rotten creatures.
      1. Repellent
        Repellent 3 July 2022 13: 00
        -6
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        Quote: carstorm 11

        And the only reason is to force us to switch to Kharkiv.

        What the hell Kharkov?

        Usual, Makar, Kharkiv. Donbass has crumbled, it is important for them now to divert the forces of the Russian Federation from there for at least something ...

        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        It is important for them to shake the people in Russia and raise the morale of their people. What did they successfully do?

        Well, they probably raised the "spirit of their people", yes. And as for "rocking" - yes, so far only you and a dozen or two local oppositionists, who are ready to hysteria for any reason ...

        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        nasty guards like you are only playing into the hands of these rotten creatures

        Dude, haven't been to the bath for a long time? Hold the tongue, otherwise it will become a little shorter yes
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 13: 18
          0
          Quote: Repellent
          Dude, haven't been to the bath for a long time? Hold the tongue, otherwise it will become a little shorter

          Go getcha guard, you're not in first.
          Quote: Repellent
          . And as for "rocking" - yes, so far only you and a dozen or two local oppositionists, who are ready to hysteria for any reason ...

          Down and Out trouble started. This is not the last day of the special operation.
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 3 July 2022 13: 50
            -4
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Go getcha guard, you're not the first

            Well, your point is clear... but -

            Quote: Anecdote
            Masochist: Well, cut me, cut... burn me, burn!
            Sadist: But no ... no boo-oo-oooo!

            Here I am. Don't boo-oo-oooo... you'll sleep yourself, the moderators are vigilant here.

            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Quote: Repellent
            And as for "rocking" - yes, so far only you and a dozen or two local oppositionists, who are ready to hysteria for any reason ...

            Down and Out trouble started. This is not the last day of the special operation

            Fuck with local opps. You have read, you understand, about "the transformation of the imperialist into a civil one" and now they are stirring up ... you will also fly, like everyone else. Or are you thinking of sitting in the cellar? fool negative
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 14: 12
              +2
              Quote: Repellent
              Fuck with local opps.

              And you don't give a shit about yourself? Or do you think the imperialist in the rear to sit out? And I'd rather die in civilian life clutching your throat than killing people fooled by the same guards from the other side.
              1. Repellent
                Repellent 3 July 2022 14: 18
                -6
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                I'd rather die in civilian life clutching your throat than killing people fooled by the same guards from the other side

                Here you go. That is, I was not mistaken with the diagnosis:

                the transformation of the modern imperialist war into a civil war is the only correct proletarian slogan

                Go ahead. Turn. I'll watch it with interest yes
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 14: 36
                  +1
                  Quote: Repellent
                  Here you go. That is, I was not mistaken with the diagnosis:

                  You were wrong about everything. What can go wrong and what can't.
                  Quote: Repellent
                  Go ahead. Turn. I'll watch it with interest

                  This does not work at all as they write in the rotten manuals of the guards.
                  1. Repellent
                    Repellent 3 July 2022 14: 40
                    -6
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    as they say in the rotten training manuals of guards

                    That's better for you to know. Room Oppositionist laughing

                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    You were wrong about everything. What can go wrong and what can not

                    There is no tremor of faith. Prove, if there is enough darkness ...
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 14: 44
                      +2
                      Quote: Repellent
                      There is no tremor of faith. Prove that there is enough darkness

                      I won't waste my time on a lumpen guard.
                      Quote: Repellent
                      That's better for you to know. Room Oppositionist

                      Of course better. Because I'm smarter than you.
                      1. Repellent
                        Repellent 3 July 2022 14: 48
                        -5
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        I won't waste my time on a lumpen security guard

                        Well, hamlo is hamlo. What a nice start:

                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        It is important for them to shake the people in Russia and raise the morale of their people. What did they successfully do?

                        Direct song...

                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        I'm smarter than you

                        Buckwheat porridge praises itself (c) laughing
                      2. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 16: 15
                        +1
                        Quote: Repellent
                        Buckwheat porridge praises itself (c)

                        You won't praise yourself, no one will praise you. And why is there to be shy, to be modest, to be modest. After all, this is a fact.
                      3. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 16: 17
                        -1
                        Quote: Repellent
                        Well, hamlo is hamlo.

                        Nothing hits the opponent's pride like the bitter truth.
        2. Vlad1097
          Vlad1097 3 July 2022 17: 59
          -3
          Who and what fell in your Donbas 24 brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not yet been defeated 4 months later they still have a high combat capability to Ukraine Lease Liz Biden signed and allocated funds in the amount of 40 billion greenbacks for weapons preparation of cannon fodder from conscripts a few weeks ago to the level of soldiers in Ukraine, they continue actively both by local instructors and NATO instructors, everything suggests that active hostilities will continue for a very long time.
          1. Repellent
            Repellent 3 July 2022 18: 13
            0
            Quote: Vlad1097
            Who and what fell on you in the Donbass

            So far, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have very cheerfully faded from Lisichansk. Next - let's see what happens.

            And yes. Master the punctuation marks, otherwise it is impossible to read ...
  12. Tired
    Tired 3 July 2022 06: 49
    +34
    That is, the Ukrainian army is already hitting Russian cities with "Hurricanes", but the promised "attacks on decision-making centers" are still missing. The entire political and military elite of Ukraine should have been destroyed long ago, and not walk around Kyiv as if it were a peaceful boulevard.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 3 July 2022 07: 11
      -7
      Exactly. Nuclear strikes on Kuev. After all, at a depth of under a hundred meters to their ZKP than to get it? So you see these beats?
      1. Chronos
        Chronos 3 July 2022 07: 34
        +13
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Exactly. Nuclear strikes on Kuev. After all, at a depth of under a hundred meters to their ZKP than to get it? So you see these beats?

        Government buildings are used for their intended purpose. Rada meetings are held, the clown saws his drug addict videos in his office. If this is demolished, it will be a blow for the country's telecommuting.
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 3 July 2022 07: 47
          -7
          Yes, these clowns do not solve anything, well, is it really incomprehensible, well, let's beat them, others will listen to the British
        2. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 3 July 2022 07: 51
          -8
          Do you need governing bodies or a bunch of deputies are not happy???
        3. sniperino
          sniperino 3 July 2022 09: 32
          -1
          Quote: Chronos
          If this is demolished, it will be a blow for the country's telecommuting.
          Are you sure they will show it on TV? It turns out that at that time a charity matinee for orphans was held in Zely's office, and all of them died. And miraculously the surviving junkie will continue to rivet videos.
          1. Chronos
            Chronos 3 July 2022 09: 41
            +6
            Quote: sniperino
            Quote: Chronos
            If this is demolished, it will be a blow for the country's telecommuting.
            Are you sure they will show it on TV? It turns out that at that time a charity matinee for orphans was held in Zely's office, and all of them died. And miraculously the surviving junkie will continue to rivet videos.

            Don't care how they present it. The people of Kiev will know that they have bombed the government quarter, rockets are hitting their city, which means there is no victory. And this is the mood in the capital. The clown is afraid of this as well.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 3 July 2022 11: 21
              -6
              Quote: Chronos
              And this is the mood in the capital.
              This will be the mood of compassion for the innocently killed children and hatred for their killers, or rather, for the one who sent them to this. And this, as you understand, will not be Zelensky.
              Quote: Chronos
              The clown is afraid of this as well.
              He is only afraid of losing the confidence of the US ambassador, and he hardly ever seriously thought about the citizens of Ukraine.
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 12: 47
                +1
                Quote: sniperino
                and about the citizens of Ukraine, hardly ever thought seriously.

                Just like you about the Russians with their rotten guards.
                1. sniperino
                  sniperino 3 July 2022 15: 45
                  -1
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Quote: sniperino
                  and about the citizens of Ukraine, hardly ever thought seriously.
                  Just like you about the Russians with their rotten guards.
                  Are you a student of the Tatras, or what? Everywhere you sculpt guards, as she is the enemies of the communists. It was about the information and psychological effectiveness of a strike on government buildings in Kyiv, and here he stuck "guardianism".
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 16: 13
                    +1
                    Quote: sniperino
                    It was about the information and psychological effectiveness of a strike on government buildings in Kyiv, and here he stuck "guardianism".

                    You don't talk teeth to us. The fact that you are a guardian has long been clear. It is not clear only one thing out of stupidity or for money.
                    1. sniperino
                      sniperino 3 July 2022 17: 05
                      -1
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      You don't talk teeth to us. The fact that you are a guardian has long been clear. It is not clear only one thing out of stupidity or for money.
                      Who is "us"? Fuckers? With you, such questions do not arise at all: it is clear that the money is stupid. laughing
              2. Chronos
                Chronos 3 July 2022 12: 52
                +1
                Quote: sniperino
                Quote: Chronos
                And this is the mood in the capital.
                This will be the mood of compassion for the innocently killed children and hatred for their killers, or rather, for the one who sent them to this. And this, as you understand, will not be Zelensky.
                Quote: Chronos
                The clown is afraid of this as well.
                He is only afraid of losing the confidence of the US ambassador, and he hardly ever seriously thought about the citizens of Ukraine.

                These will be sentiments that there is a war in Kyiv, and not a party. They have a war in the city. This is how the fatigue of the population from the war is formed, including for this dill is beaten in Belgorod. By causing population fatigue, NATO broke Yugoslavia. Here everyone praises Stalin, and the mustachioed one always said that one must learn from the enemy.
                1. sniperino
                  sniperino 3 July 2022 16: 47
                  +1
                  Quote: Chronos
                  By causing population fatigue, NATO broke Yugoslavia.
                  NATO launched 3 cruise missiles and dropped about 80 tons of bombs, including cluster and depleted uranium bombs, with a total weight of 15 tons. Approximately died there. 1700 people, incl. 400 children. Do you really want us to do the same?
                  1. Chronos
                    Chronos 3 July 2022 17: 14
                    +1
                    Quote: sniperino
                    Quote: Chronos
                    By causing population fatigue, NATO broke Yugoslavia.
                    NATO launched 3 cruise missiles and dropped about 80 tons of bombs, including cluster and depleted uranium bombs, with a total weight of 15 tons. Approximately died there. 1700 people, incl. 400 children. Do you really want us to do the same?

                    I don't know anymore, to be honest. If you look at ukrosotsseti, then there are probably pants full of joy. We are all not people for them, orcs. But if we are all enemies for them, then they are also for us? And if the enemy does not surrender?
                    1. sniperino
                      sniperino 3 July 2022 21: 17
                      0
                      Quote: Chronos
                      If you look at ukrosotsseti, then there are definitely pants full of joy.
                      Utyrks rejoicing at this event can also be found here.
                      Quote: Chronos
                      But if we are all enemies for them, then they are also for us?
                      We are not enemies for everyone, and not all are enemies for us. 74%, if I'm not mistaken, of Ukrainians voted not so much for Zelensky as against the war in Donbass. Most people are ordinary people who do not care about power and do not care about citizenship, as long as they live calmly and satisfyingly. But there are also those who are waiting for our soldiers as liberators. If the General Staff believes that the strategy of minimizing losses among their own and among civilians should be maintained, then I would not argue with this. hi
            2. bondrostov
              bondrostov 3 July 2022 12: 34
              +4
              It was the 5th month of the war. The Soviet Union continued to supply metal to the German Empire in fulfillment of its obligations. Food (gas!) Everything you need to know about this war...
          2. Dude
            Dude 3 July 2022 13: 18
            +1
            Quote: sniperino
            Quote: Chronos
            If this is demolished, it will be a blow for the country's telecommuting.
            Are you sure they will show it on TV? It turns out that at that time a charity matinee for orphans was held in Zely's office, and all of them died. And miraculously the surviving junkie will continue to rivet videos.
            And what, now do not fight at all? If we keep looking back at what bloggers will write about us and what the West will think of us, we will never win this war.
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 4 July 2022 10: 38
              -1
              Quote: Dude
              If we keep looking back at what bloggers will write about us and what the West will think of us...
              Where did you see this look? In my objection to the effectiveness of a strike on the center of Kyiv in a country of televised attacks?
              Television scripts for such strikes, I believe, have been prepared for a long time, and the best shots of the Western media are waiting at the ready at a safe distance. It will be unbearable - they themselves will be beaten by the Rada or the office, but they will show the world another "Bucha" within the cultural framework of the "cancellation of the Russian", and Zelensky and other necessary people, "necessaries", as they said in one Soviet movie, will miraculously survive. It would be nice to hit the US embassy, ​​where decisions are made at least on a significant level. And government buildings in Kyiv, in relation to events at the fronts, have the function of places to resolve issues of embezzlement of the budget, "land lease" and drank babosiks. We are not harmed by this. Zelya in armor will flash in the frames in the ruins among the mountains of corpses and you won’t have to travel far.
              What is the prospect of teleperemogi here? And how can one judge the possible reaction of the mass media audience without "looking back" at their avant-garde - the Western media?
  13. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 3 July 2022 06: 52
    +16
    Again we will hear the next "mantras" about the fraternal people, instead of "cleaning up" wasp nests in Kyiv!
  14. Sergey39
    Sergey39 3 July 2022 06: 53
    +12
    Looks like Hoclopithecus, crossed, all lines? What will the government answer?
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 3 July 2022 07: 01
      +18
      Sergey 39-authority will answer with indistinct mooing and, as always, collateralism ....
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 3 July 2022 07: 11
        -5
        They answered with the liberated Luhansk region.
        1. aglet
          aglet 3 July 2022 08: 24
          +8
          "They answered with the liberated Luhansk region"
          Can you post the map of the liberated one? otherwise the release micro-successes on the database maps are poorly readable. apparently, the scale is small
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            1. aglet
              aglet 3 July 2022 08: 53
              +3
              "I.e. taking the last arvp city of the entire region is micro?)"
              what - what city? even if they took it, the Luhansk region is not the end of the war, and it is not even within its borders yet. in the Donetsk sector, everything is much more complicated, there are more up to the borders than in Lugansk, and, as it recently turned out, they don’t even know how to fight. if this name means anything to you
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 3 July 2022 08: 57
                -6
                I kind of said clearly-Lugansk. Where and in what place did you see about the end of the war? Why do I need this stream of consciousness if I clearly said about a specific achievement?
                1. aglet
                  aglet 3 July 2022 10: 05
                  +1
                  "if I clearly said about a specific achievement?"
                  speaking clearly, the Luhansk region has not yet been liberated
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    1. Chronos
      Chronos 3 July 2022 07: 04
      +18
      This is their bestial answer for Lisichansk. They handed over the Luhansk region, hit in retaliation on the residential areas of Kursk and Belgorod. If there is no strike on Kyiv, then I don't know. They won't understand otherwise. Just wipe out the government quarter.
    2. Wasiliy kostrow
      Wasiliy kostrow 3 July 2022 08: 47
      -5
      Yesterday drunk cops pissed on the corner of our house. Why did they do it?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 3 July 2022 09: 49
        0
        Not why, but why. And not cops, but show-offs.
  16. krex pax
    krex pax 3 July 2022 07: 00
    +12
    Well, isn't it time to increase the grouping of troops in the north of Ukraine and push the Nazis away from our borders. After this shelling, something obviously needs to be changed with the nature of the special operation. These brutes won't stop
    1. Vlad1097
      Vlad1097 3 July 2022 12: 20
      0
      Everyone has been talking about this for more than one month - but our leadership and the General Staff do not care about it, they live there in their little world.
  17. Sergey3
    Sergey3 3 July 2022 07: 01
    +10
    Well, what, and how, where is the development of decision-making centers? It's time to extinguish the green, but ours will never do this, because they are afraid for their skins ...
  18. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 3 July 2022 07: 03
    +12
    How many houses were destroyed and three dead and four wounded? Moreover, at night! I do not believe! As always! When will the truth be told?
    1. german zaj
      german zaj 3 July 2022 08: 42
      +2
      Broken windows are also damage or a cracked roof. So far, there was a photo of one funnel in the private sector, so it’s quite real.
  19. Eug
    Eug 3 July 2022 07: 03
    +12
    I had such a question - were these Hurricanes for sure? Their range - according to info on the network - 36 km. From Belgorod to the border - about 40 plus or minus a couple of kilometers ....
    1. Yves762
      Yves762 3 July 2022 07: 21
      +5
      Ukraine had Tornadoes, which should have had enough range. They also had their own MLRS "Alder", also with a database, but how many of them were / remained unclear, as with the "Neptunes" (RCP).
      So it could not have been Hurricanes or HIMARS.
    2. den3080
      den3080 3 July 2022 07: 53
      +18
      Quote: Eug
      I had such a question - were these Hurricanes for sure? Their range - according to info on the network - 36 km. From Belgorod to the border - about 40 plus or minus a couple of kilometers ....

      I was not too lazy, measured the distance in Google.
      Chumichev / Mayakovsky streets, this is so in the east of Belogorod, even beyond the center.
      So from there to the Ukrainian territory 33 km in a straight line, in one place.
      Well, in general, it was necessary for Hurricane to go almost directly to the border and shoot.
      Questions arise, yes, to MO. And all - with abundant inclusions, consisting of obscene words.
      1. NSV
        NSV 3 July 2022 08: 08
        0
        This is practically the center. A kilometer to the central square, the regional administration ...
      2. Egg
        Egg 3 July 2022 08: 15
        0
        This is up to Belgorod, and Kursk is even further away, in Kursk all missiles were shot down, in Belgorod 2 out of 3 were shot down
  20. saved
    saved 3 July 2022 07: 04
    +8
    Maybe it's enough to turn the cheeks already ??? We are waiting for something to fall straight in the nose.
  21. Yves762
    Yves762 3 July 2022 07: 08
    +20
    To the question of the "plan" according to which "everything is going" ...
    1. Vlad1097
      Vlad1097 3 July 2022 12: 25
      -2
      The first phase burned out; the second phase closed; I wonder what Shoigu will say in his reports about the third phase - the phase was completed, but in reality the phase will be lost.
  22. ramzay21
    ramzay21 3 July 2022 07: 10
    +22
    Are these already red lines or not yet?
    1. impostor
      impostor 3 July 2022 07: 38
      -17
      Judging by the panic on the forum, these lines look like brown. Tomorrow Lviv will burn and something else on the Polish-Ukro border.
      1. AUL
        AUL 3 July 2022 10: 28
        +3
        Quote: impostor
        Tomorrow Lviv will burn and something else on the Polish-Ukro border.

        Are you responsible for your words?
        1. impostor
          impostor 3 July 2022 12: 43
          -2
          Plus or minus. It is not excluded the physical elimination of the clown, one of the curators because of the puddle. The answer will be clear. Panic must not be allowed, panic is one of the tasks of Saloreich
    2. AdAstra
      AdAstra 3 July 2022 10: 57
      0
      Obviously still a quarter red or less.
  23. iz odessy
    iz odessy 3 July 2022 07: 12
    +9
    The toughening of the war, when it becomes long-term - the law thereof
  24. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 3 July 2022 07: 13
    +2
    Is it time to hit the "decision-making centers" already ... or will they wait until they gasp in Moscow?
    sad
  25. Maxim G
    Maxim G 3 July 2022 07: 17
    +24
    To everyone who is trying to find an excuse for the fact that shelling of the territory of the Russian Federation is not stopped, my advice is to move to the border area until the end of the NWO and broadcast from there.
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 3 July 2022 09: 54
      -4
      Quote: Maxim G
      To everyone who is trying to find an excuse for the fact that shelling of the territory of the Russian Federation is not stopped, my advice is to move to the border area until the end of the NWO and broadcast from there.
      And, accordingly, those who are dissatisfied with the pace of the SVO, rather write an application to the military registration and enlistment office for admission to contract service (closed until tomorrow). And not to Santa Claus to write about your needs here.
      1. Maxim G
        Maxim G 3 July 2022 10: 01
        +8
        And what will be appointed commander of the NWO if you write a statement?
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 3 July 2022 10: 39
          -3
          Quote: Maxim G
          And what will be appointed commander of the NWO if you write a statement?
          If you have experience in commanding formations during successful operations of this kind, then there are chances. But the chance to personally speed up the pace of the operation remains at an extreme option.
          1. Maxim G
            Maxim G 3 July 2022 10: 45
            +2
            Not the other way around?
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 3 July 2022 12: 14
              -2
              Quote: Maxim G
              Not the other way around?
              Do you think your direct involvement can only slow down the pace of the operation?
              1. Maxim G
                Maxim G 3 July 2022 12: 20
                +1
                Looking at the quality.
                But the arrival of uryakalok in the border area will definitely be useful.
  26. Cartalon
    Cartalon 3 July 2022 07: 23
    +13
    And everything goes according to plan
  27. Heaven
    Heaven 3 July 2022 07: 27
    +2
    How much is left to wait before the moment when Ukraine will begin to supply long-range missiles?
    1. german zaj
      german zaj 3 July 2022 08: 45
      +2
      Yes, they already have them. Point y, though an old but quite a long-range complex.
    2. DenVB
      DenVB 3 July 2022 09: 38
      +2
      Quote from Heaven
      How much is left to wait before the moment when Ukraine will begin to supply long-range missiles?

      I think, at the latest, by the end of the year, Ukraine will have the opportunity to strike at Moscow.
  28. Yves762
    Yves762 3 July 2022 07: 31
    -2
    But now an attempt to create a buffer zone along the border will disrupt the offensive in the Donbass. what
    1. Vlad1097
      Vlad1097 3 July 2022 12: 37
      -1
      No, if additional forces are attracted in general, the entire grouping in Ukraine needs to be increased by 4-5 times in order to actively advance and hold positions. But our geniuses in the General Staff still believe that the millionth group of Tarabarov and the Armed Forces of Ukraine of which the West pumps weapons and ammunition every day on the territory of 500000 square kilometers can be defeated and captured by 200000 personnel.
  29. Alexander Matrosov
    Alexander Matrosov 3 July 2022 07: 33
    +6
    Quote from Heaven
    How much is left to wait before the moment when Ukraine will begin to supply long-range missiles?

    Couple of weeks.
  30. g_ae
    g_ae 3 July 2022 07: 35
    +12
    How is it with the search for decision-making points? Isn't it time yet?
    1. AdAstra
      AdAstra 3 July 2022 10: 58
      +3
      So they haven’t found it yet, so they’re slowing down, or maybe they’re not looking at all.
    2. Antonina Ignatenko
      Antonina Ignatenko 3 July 2022 11: 36
      -1
      Why look for them? They are in Washington, in a pentagonal building.
  31. Blade3
    Blade3 3 July 2022 07: 37
    -10
    This is the Agony of the Kyiv regime.

    They are not decision-making centers, but just zombified failure soldiers, and the Russian leadership knows this very well.

    The real enemy needs the growth of discontent among the population of Russia, mobilization, declaration of war.

    It all counts for one or two. no options
    1. Nafanya from the sofa
      Nafanya from the sofa 3 July 2022 08: 08
      +12
      The real enemy needs the growth of discontent among the population of Russia,

      They win the information war, unlike the real one. Exchange scandal - no response from Russian authorities. Withdrawal of troops - statements like "chickens laugh". There is a war going on. Brutal and bloody. Not everything and not always works. But in general, Russia wins. So why hide individual failures. This is stupid and causes mistrust and discontent of people.
      1. Blade3
        Blade3 3 July 2022 08: 13
        -10
        There is no information war.

        They are killed not by streams of information, but by bullets and shells.

        The information war ends where the real war begins.

        If the human brain is not able to analyze processes, then these are problems of the brain and not processes.
        1. Simple
          Simple 3 July 2022 08: 23
          +5
          With the "Agony of the Kyiv authorities" - you got excited.

          The purpose of this act, I think, is to interfere with the plan for the course of the operation.
          But such attacks on Russian cities - I don’t understand why everyone is indignant.
          For the Ukrainian Kyiv regime, this is a war.
          For Russia, this is a special operation with all the ensuing restrictions.
        2. sniperino
          sniperino 3 July 2022 08: 40
          +1
          Quote from blade3
          The information war ends where the real war begins.
          The discovery draws on the Nobel Prize. Until now, they did not interfere with each other, and the information war only intensified with the start of the real one.
    2. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 12: 52
      +2
      Quote from blade3
      This is the Agony of the Kyiv regime.

      It wasn't you who talked in 2014 that Ukraine would fall apart in a year?
      1. Blade3
        Blade3 3 July 2022 13: 25
        -2
        Local combat strategists are rattling around, housewives, I could only predict. No, not me
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 13: 41
          0
          Quote from blade3
          No, not me

          And the rhetoric is the same.
          1. Blade3
            Blade3 3 July 2022 13: 43
            -1
            Well, it happens that the majority have no rhetoric at all, only templates and slogans
  32. Sergio63
    Sergio63 3 July 2022 07: 43
    +9
    So, we waited .... and now we'll see when these strikes on the CPR will nevertheless take place ???! And will they even...?
  33. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 3 July 2022 07: 46
    +25
    Now Kanashenkov will come out to the camera, in a dejectedly cheerful voice will report about the next "49 struck nationalist command posts" in a day, and everyone will immediately forget about this nightmare. This is exactly what the General Staff thinks. He does not notice his mistakes and mistakes at all. But bravo talks numbers. According to which Ukraine should no longer just have military equipment left. And "control points", especially those who controlled someone in them.
    Until those who from the very beginning planned the NMD and who now leads it in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are not removed, condemned by law for their mistakes, short-sightedness and miscalculations, and until they are replaced by smart, modern commanders, the NMD will be a mess and a threat to Russian cities .
    1. Blade3
      Blade3 3 July 2022 07: 52
      -11
      The Russian army liberated Lisichansk: okay, it will go, I approve.

      The Kyiv regime, in agony, shelled the city: what a mess, to remove the entire leadership of the General Staff.

      Bravo!
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 3 July 2022 09: 01
        +8
        Lisichansk and others. points are vacated by field commanders, soldiers, officers, pilots, tankers, artillerymen, signalmen, drivers, doctors, volunteers, etc. They perform the hardest work on the battlefield, risking their lives and health. And they do it perfectly! I am proud of them! What can not be said about those about whom I wrote above!
      2. The collective farm is voluntary.
        -2
        Here, not everyone understands sarcasm, be strong colleague.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 12: 54
          -2
          This sarcasm is kind of dumb.
      3. Vlad1097
        Vlad1097 3 July 2022 12: 40
        +1
        Excellent - it remains only to liberate at least 20000 more settlements and cities throughout Ukraine.
    2. aglet
      aglet 3 July 2022 08: 35
      +8
      "Until those who from the very beginning planned the SVO and who now leads it in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are removed, convicted by law"
      Yes, don’t worry so much, Putin doesn’t leave his people, at most, they will transfer them somewhere, without losing their salary. will sit in the next office pants
  34. iz odessy
    iz odessy 3 July 2022 07: 55
    +12
    It is difficult to assess the depth of disinformation by general
    state of Ukraine in which the military-political leadership of the Russian Federation lived on 24.02.22!
    Someone must answer, must! Subjectively, this disinformation still "works". If changes and adjustments are visible with the military unit, then with moral and psychological suppression - a deep seat. Who, in the Kremlin and below, is still not clear on geographical pain points, the impact on which will a priori reduce the moral potential, and psychologically lead to an oppressed state? And to this Sergeevka Odessa region?
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  35. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 3 July 2022 08: 03
    +20
    How many more today will Lieutenant General Konashenkov "destroy headquarters, military installations and places of accumulation of enemy equipment"? How many planes will he shoot down and intercept enemy missiles? His briefings are more and more reminiscent of the speeches of a certain Don Sera from "It's Hard to Be a God" by Br. Strugatsky:
    Don Sera turned purple and began to make lengthy and tongue-tied excuses, lying all the time

    Why does the Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation believe that the citizens of the Russian Federation do not know how to use the Internet, and that they receive all the news via ORT?
    When and from whom will we find out what measures our military is taking to prevent shelling of Russian cities and villages.
    It's a shame!
  36. Kelwin
    Kelwin 3 July 2022 08: 03
    +7
    Chet doesn't look like 9K57. If the photo is real (but still clearly blurred), then this is something more powerful in terms of power, three or four times like that ... 8 arrivals and 11 + 39 objects are also nonsense, they won’t tell the truth, of course, but it’s clear in general.
  37. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 3 July 2022 08: 04
    +8
    "Hurricane" hits 30 km. Where were they shooting from? Or they didn’t shoot with the Hurricane.
    1. DenVB
      DenVB 3 July 2022 09: 43
      0
      Quote: TermNachTER
      "Hurricane" hits 30 km. Where were they shooting from? Or they didn’t shoot with the Hurricane.

      It is not difficult to make a rocket for MLRS with an increased range. You just need to reduce the warhead and increase the propellant charge.

      I'm not talking about the fact that they necessarily shot with the "Hurricane". Even most likely not "Hurricane". I’m just explaining that paper performance characteristics should not be taken as an indisputable truth.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 3 July 2022 10: 20
        +1
        Are you good at this process? On rural MTS, disassemble, make changes to the design of the NURS, and assemble again. And where is the guarantee that it will not explode during disassembly or assembly? And yes, the information has already passed - they shot "Point"
        1. DenVB
          DenVB 3 July 2022 10: 28
          -2
          Quote: TermNachTER
          On rural MTS, disassemble, make changes to the design of the NURS, and assemble again.

          What is this nonsense?
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 3 July 2022 10: 35
            +1
            This is what you said. So far, no one has seen converted shells for the Uragan. But they saw not exploded, released in 1986.
            1. DenVB
              DenVB 3 July 2022 10: 43
              0
              Quote: TermNachTER
              This is what you said. So far, no one has seen converted shells for the Uragan.

              Why remake them? Isn't it easier to make new ones?
              1. TermNachTer
                TermNachTer 3 July 2022 14: 01
                0
                We return to the beginning of the conversation - you can’t do it in a rural MTS. A lot of things are needed. Taking into account the fact that the industry in Banderland has been purposefully ruined for the last 30 years, the probability is very low.
                1. DenVB
                  DenVB 3 July 2022 14: 24
                  +1
                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  We return to the beginning of the conversation - you can’t do it in a rural MTS.

                  I don’t understand what the rural MTS has to do with it.

                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  Taking into account the fact that the industry in Banderland has been purposefully ruined for the last 30 years, the probability is very low.

                  Have you heard of Alder? Modernized missile "Smerch", in fact. Produced at the Artem plant in Kyiv. A few days ago, they finally hit him, and before that he worked quite calmly.
                  1. TermNachTer
                    TermNachTer 3 July 2022 15: 14
                    0
                    I heard about Alder, but never saw it. Look at Wikipedia what the Artem plant did before, before 2014.
                    1. DenVB
                      DenVB 3 July 2022 15: 21
                      0
                      Quote: TermNachTER
                      Look at Wikipedia what the Artem plant did before, before 2014.

                      See for yourself. Well, I have to explain everything to you.
                      1. TermNachTer
                        TermNachTer 3 July 2022 15: 30
                        0
                        I don't have to look, I already know. They never did NURS. They tried to somehow make 80 - mm. - ended in nothing. They talked a lot about "Alder", but apart from commercials, they were not seen anywhere else.
                      2. DenVB
                        DenVB 3 July 2022 15: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        They never did NURS. They tried to somehow make 80 - mm. - ended in nothing.

                        I don't know what the problem is. Palestinians make Qassams in general in cellars and garages. And some even reach Israel.

                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        They talked a lot about "Alder", but apart from commercials, they were not seen anywhere else.

                        "Neptunes" was also not seen anywhere, except for commercials. And yet, for some reason, the cruiser sank.
                      3. TermNachTer
                        TermNachTer 3 July 2022 17: 34
                        0
                        What is made from drainpipes in the garage flies accordingly. Yes, there is no need to fly far and the warhead is funny. "Hurricane" shoots at 30 km. and warhead there be healthy. About “Moscow” is too early to talk. What the cruiser died from is not known, but from my point of view, of all possible versions, the hypothetical Neptune is in last place.
                      4. DenVB
                        DenVB 3 July 2022 17: 55
                        -1
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        What is made from drainpipes in the garage flies accordingly.

                        And what is being done at the plant, even if not the most high-tech one, has a chance to fly where it is needed.

                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        What the cruiser died from is not known, but from my point of view, of all possible versions, the hypothetical Neptune is in last place.

                        And after all, too, everyone was sure that nothing like this could be in principle.
                      5. TermNachTer
                        TermNachTer 3 July 2022 20: 31
                        0
                        I work at a factory that makes aircraft engines. Although I am not an engineer or a designer, but due to the specifics of the work, I have to delve into production. So, an average factory - the aviation theme will not pull, especially since more than one factory is involved in production.
                      6. DenVB
                        DenVB 3 July 2022 20: 33
                        0
                        Quote: TermNachTER
                        So, a mediocre factory - the aviation theme will not pull

                        Not only aviation. Microelectronic - too.
                      7. TermNachTer
                        TermNachTer 3 July 2022 20: 33
                        0
                        Z.Y. Regarding the "Moscow", I personally was not sure, because both on this forum and on others, competent comrades wrote that the ship was in very poor condition. It had to either be put into capital with modernization, or written off.
  38. Million
    Million 3 July 2022 08: 06
    +8
    The authorities will express strong protest and some concern....
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 3 July 2022 08: 12
      +6
      No one's yachts were drowned.
      All is well.
  39. aszzz888
    aszzz888 3 July 2022 08: 07
    +5
    We need to respond appropriately. Already got the Nazis specifically. All the same, we are at war with all of Europe and the Merikatos.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 3 July 2022 08: 25
      +3
      Shh! The Kremlin does not know about it.
  40. cniza
    cniza 3 July 2022 08: 10
    +11
    APU struck MLRS "Hurricane" in Belgorod


    There are no normal words, we harness something for a long time ...
  41. Sergio63
    Sergio63 3 July 2022 08: 10
    +4
    The latest news ... it turns out that the Banderlogs tried to sharpen around Kursk .... NO, the guys from the General Staff urgently need an answer !!!!! To forever silence these mongrels in Kucha, Lemberg, Dnieper .... further down the list !!! IT'S TIME!
  42. Sebostyuan
    Sebostyuan 3 July 2022 08: 15
    +1
    Tonight, air defense worked over Kursk too. According to preliminary data, all targets were shot down, there were no casualties on the ground and no destruction. "Hurricane" will not reach here.
  43. cmax
    cmax 3 July 2022 08: 26
    +12
    Our operation "victory" after "victory" Drowned the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet (silence), moved away from the Kyiv, Sumy, Chernihiv, Kharkov regions - silence, burned a gas production platform in the Black Sea, the rest are next (supplying Crimea with gas -50%) - silence, the shelling of Donetsk continues, and now Belgorod - most likely, indistinct muttering will follow. And this is 4 months after the start of the operation. What will be interesting for 6-10 months, Moscow will be shelled or the Crimean bridge will be filled up. Viagra to them (management), to help.
    1. DenVB
      DenVB 3 July 2022 09: 47
      +1
      Quote: cmax
      Moscow will be shelled

      Russia will only laugh, watching dear moyshkvichs run along the freshly tiled streets and shout "What are we for ?!"
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 12: 58
        +2
        I won't. Because there are the same people as everywhere else. And fuck people fucking like Papa Carlo for a penny. Or do you think there are entirely oligarchs involved in maintaining the infrastructure?
        1. DenVB
          DenVB 3 July 2022 13: 42
          +2
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          I won't. Because there are the same people as elsewhere.

          Controversial issue.

          Here, for example, not Moscow, but St. Petersburg. Just a few days ago, the TV just choked with delight, describing a show called "Scarlet Sails". The music is blaring, the girls are squealing, the reporters are reporting on a "grand celebration".

          I looked at it and cursed. The war is going on, dozens of soldiers are dying every day, Donetsk is under daily shelling, and here such a cultural metropolitan b ... is demonstrated throughout the country. Are the people there the same as everywhere else, or not?
  44. Vladimir M
    Vladimir M 3 July 2022 08: 28
    +9
    Now Konashenkov will get into the TV and cheerfully tell about the downed dozens of aircraft, about the hit dozens of artillery firing positions and hundreds of areas where equipment is located. And then we will strike with a "gesture of good will" and finally we will finish them off with "101 concerns." Something is less and less clear what is happening and what are our goals in this operation.
  45. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 3 July 2022 08: 28
    +11
    We need to slow down the fun in Kyiv. De-energize the city - demolish all substations, TV towers, the government quarter, the National Bank, etc. Enough to fuss. Let them sit without light, heat, telephones, TV, metro, etc.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 3 July 2022 10: 01
      +4
      De-energize the city - demolish all substations, TV towers, the government quarter, the National Bank, etc.
      I agree with you one hundred percent, but the question is, what about gas supplies to Ukraine?
      1. AdAstra
        AdAstra 3 July 2022 11: 05
        +4
        I think everything is quite cheerful - they deliver.
  46. rusmor55
    rusmor55 3 July 2022 08: 29
    +14
    We have climbed nowhere deeper, start fighting in a serious way. For electrical substations, for television and radio studios, for railway stations and bridges, etc. And then in Kyiv they walk around like in a resort, all communications work. Why be afraid of how the West will react, it will be necessary, they will draw it all themselves.
  47. Moneron
    Moneron 3 July 2022 08: 36
    +22
    and now dry, without emotions.
    the sign "special operation" is clearly dilapidated. in reality, it has long escalated into a strange war. on the other hand, they are fighting in all seriousness. we are trying to portray knightly nobility. how Putin does not want to get involved in a full-scale war with the mobilization of the male population and the mobilization of industry!!!. even gas does not stop pumping through the adversary .... everything is just to justify - what kind of war? ... green, emboldened by impunity and Western support, like a skating rink, gradually and inevitably, drags Putin into a big war.
    in February - March, having struck at full strength, they could have finished this Marlezon ballet long ago. and now the Ukrainian boy has grown a lot in 4 months and one army of personnel cannot cope with him.
    well. our beloved president, now show your iron balls.
    but for starters, for an accusatory PR campaign, the president should have come to Belgorod to bury the dead and inspect damaged buildings .... with powerful press coverage. !!! and no threats to the green .... let the banderlogs with the West quiet down, waiting for an answer. then Putin's hands will be untied.
    so you can use this sad circumstance. you need to learn proper PR from the green.
    1. Blade3
      Blade3 3 July 2022 08: 38
      -17
      Didn't you fall asleep from your slogans while writing?
  48. Vyacheslav Dokuchaev
    Vyacheslav Dokuchaev 3 July 2022 08: 38
    +5
    Air defense failed, the aggressors were not destroyed ......
    1. Vlad1097
      Vlad1097 3 July 2022 12: 52
      -1
      Whoever pours something about the broken spirit and the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will run out of ammunition, the fact remains that they do not run out of ammunition, and the motivation to conduct hostilities at a very high level has not been observed for the fifth month, not a single brigade has been captured, but they have onnyh 24 has not yet been destroyed.
  49. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 3 July 2022 08: 46
    -14
    Gentlemen, commentators, is it okay that you squeal in a purely Ukrainian style? Doesn't it dawn on you that this is the purpose of such attacks - to force us to act not according to plans, to rush, make mistakes and lose people in vain? Or is that exactly what you are looking for?
    1. Chronos
      Chronos 3 July 2022 08: 59
      +7
      Quote: Fedorovich
      Gentlemen, commentators, is it okay that you squeal in a purely Ukrainian style? Doesn't it dawn on you that this is the purpose of such attacks - to force us to act not according to plans, to rush, make mistakes and lose people in vain? Or is that exactly what you are looking for?

      Because the General Staff had to take into account the possibility of such strikes. And have a plan for a retaliatory strike against targets in Kyiv. Or is there a direction of the main attack, the offensive is proceeding according to plan, and the General Staff has already recorded the inhabitants of Donetsk, Kursk and Belgorod as allowable losses?
      1. Fedorovich
        Fedorovich 3 July 2022 09: 16
        -3
        Do you want us to carry everything in a row, and we, as in Lisichansk, were greeted with flowers? Or do you think that after this, the locals will not join the fistfight in shooting at us? You, my dear, are either pathologically naive, or a provocateur.
        1. Chronos
          Chronos 3 July 2022 09: 47
          +8
          Quote: Fedorovich
          Do you want us to carry everything in a row, and we, as in Lisichansk, were greeted with flowers? Or do you think that after this, the locals will not join the fistfight in shooting at us? You, my dear, are either pathologically naive, or a provocateur.

          Where, in Kyiv? No one has been waiting for us there with flowers for a long time.
          1. Fedorovich
            Fedorovich 3 July 2022 11: 12
            -3
            And so, of course, you need to aggro everyone in a row, yes. So that there is no chance that the bulk of the natives, when they get to them, put up their paws and galloped off to hand over trunks for a little money, there is no ... Yes, you are just a brilliant strategist!
            1. Chronos
              Chronos 3 July 2022 13: 09
              +2
              Quote: Fedorovich
              And so, of course, you need to aggro everyone in a row, yes. So that there is no chance that the bulk of the natives, when they get to them, put up their paws and galloped off to hand over trunks for a little money, there is no ... Yes, you are just a brilliant strategist!

              The bulk of the local natives, when changing power for money, if they don’t run to hand over their weapons themselves, then they will happily inform on a neighbor who has not handed over.
              1. Fedorovich
                Fedorovich 3 July 2022 16: 29
                -1
                You don't have to pretend to be stupid. They can believe...
          2. SVGagarin
            SVGagarin 3 July 2022 11: 13
            +1
            Let them roll into their Europe! Spit!
            1. Fedorovich
              Fedorovich 3 July 2022 11: 21
              -3
              Excuse me, are you dumb? The problem is they won't run.
          3. Antonina Ignatenko
            Antonina Ignatenko 3 July 2022 11: 44
            0
            We don't really know. And if Zele is allowed to continue throwing one thousand young Ukrainian lives after another into the furnace, then in a couple of months they may and will be greeted with flowers.
        2. NNikolaich
          NNikolaich 3 July 2022 11: 40
          +1
          What is the connection between a retaliatory strike, let's say on targets in Lvov, and the number of flowers in Lisichansk? Or do you like Lvov closer to Russian cities, and are you more worried about Western Ukrainian cities than Russian ones?
          And who is the provocateur here then?
          1. Fedorovich
            Fedorovich 3 July 2022 12: 43
            -1
            I repeat: do you want to aggro everyone on yourself?
    2. TatarinSSSR
      TatarinSSSR 3 July 2022 09: 14
      +8
      That is, in your opinion, when our homes and our people and infrastructure in our RUSSIAN cities are destroyed, those whom we came to "demitalize", we must remain calm, not give in to "provocations" and continue to let ukrostan sit quietly in the restaurants of Kyiv, Lvov and further down the list, nightclubs, use gasoline and solarium from untouched refineries, the Internet, the benefits of civilian life, deliver weapons from the west by rail, receive billions of dollars from us for gas transit, etc.? And our troops get stuck in heavy battles, winning back 3 km a day, incurring losses?
    3. DenVB
      DenVB 3 July 2022 09: 50
      +2
      Quote: Fedorovich
      to force us to act not according to plans, to rush, make mistakes and waste people?

      Should we be forced to do this? We are doing great on our own.
      1. SVGagarin
        SVGagarin 3 July 2022 11: 15
        0
        You don't have to lose people! There are HIGHLY ACCURATE WEAPONS. THIS CLOWN SHOULD NOT ACCEPT ANYONE IN Kyiv, WHICH WILL BE SHOOLED REGULCHRNO.
      2. Fedorovich
        Fedorovich 4 July 2022 17: 48
        0
        In your fantasies, perhaps.
  50. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 3 July 2022 08: 53
    +1
    In response, shy away at any important infrastructure facility. For example, at the Dnieper Hydroelectric Station ... A thermal power plant in Kiev is also a tasty object. Destroy water supply and aeration stations. They will run away with shit.
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          1. IS-80_RVGK2
            IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 14: 14
            +1
            Quote: Repellent
            The dude is really a cannibal, if he said that ... are you also signing up?

            That is, you do not like the result of your guarding activities? Well, it happens.
            1. Repellent
              Repellent 3 July 2022 14: 22
              -3
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              That is, you do not like the result of your guarding activities?

              You do not translate the arrows ... switchman laughing

              Say it directly and clearly - also, what, do you want to destroy the Dneproges? Don't be shy, you won't get anything for it yes
              1. IS-80_RVGK2
                IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 14: 37
                -1
                Quote: Repellent
                Say it directly and clearly - also, what, do you want to destroy the Dneproges?

                Why do I have to explain something to the guards every time on my fingers? You don’t hire smart people there in principle?
                1. Repellent
                  Repellent 3 July 2022 14: 44
                  -4
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Why do I have to explain something to the guard every time on my fingers?

                  Turn the fool off. We have known each other for a long time, do not try to seem stupider than you were.

                  However, maybe you're stupid? This happens with age ... My, if so, condolences.

                  Yes, and stop catching the guards ... get sober already. And then all the devils seem to you laughing

                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  Why do I have to explain something on my fingers every time

                  Because it is customary to answer for your words, Makar. I’m answering, but somehow you don’t yet ... somehow it turns out incongruently request laughing
                  1. IS-80_RVGK2
                    IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 16: 09
                    0
                    Quote: Repellent
                    We have known each other for a long time, do not try to seem stupider than you were.

                    What are you?
                    1. Repellent
                      Repellent 3 July 2022 16: 16
                      -2
                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      Quote: Repellent
                      We have known each other for a long time, do not try to seem stupider than you were.

                      What are you?

                      Not exactly:

                      Quote: Repellent
                      maybe stupid? This happens with age...

                      And again I guessed ... sadness request
                      1. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 3 July 2022 16: 20
                        0
                        Well, you have self-esteem. Not by intelligence. Am I supposed to remember all the feebleminded in Russia? Meehan, right?
                      2. Repellent
                        Repellent 3 July 2022 16: 49
                        0
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Meehan or something

                        You yourself ... an owl request yes laughing
                    2. aglet
                      aglet 3 July 2022 16: 51
                      0
                      "Yes, what are you?"
                      yes, nothing special - an ordinary troll, on a time basis
                  2. Kuzyakin15
                    Kuzyakin15 3 July 2022 17: 15
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                    Repellent:
                    You never answered for your words, don't lie
          2. alexey alexeyev_2
            alexey alexeyev_2 3 July 2022 19: 44
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            You at least buried someone who died in this war. Not? Well then shut up
        2. Fedorovich
          Fedorovich 3 July 2022 16: 26
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          Were you allowed to open your mouth? I don't remember something like that.
      2. alexey alexeyev_2
        alexey alexeyev_2 3 July 2022 19: 47
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        ok you. When ours approach the Dneproges, your friends will blow it up themselves
        1. Repellent
          Repellent 3 July 2022 19: 52
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          Quote: Aleksey Alekseev_2
          When ours approach the Dneproges, your friends will blow it up themselves

          Have you tried to think with your head? But try. What, for example, will the explosion of the Dneproges dam by us (Russia) lead to and how will this affect NATO's position in Ukraine. Well, if because of the obvious setting in Bucha, such a storm has risen.

          Think ahead, and much will be revealed to you. Hope.
    2. Orang
      Orang 3 July 2022 10: 12
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      It is true that metropolitan areas are very vulnerable in this regard. It is not necessary to carry it into rubble.
    3. NNikolaich
      NNikolaich 3 July 2022 11: 45
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      Why destroy the Dneproges? People built and built. It is easier and more useful to gouge electrical substations, then it will be easier to restore them later.
      The war will end, then people will need to live somehow