APU struck MLRS "Hurricane" in Belgorod

Ukrainian armed formations attacked Belgorod. As reported in social networks, the city, presumably, worked out the MLRS "Hurricane". There are damages to houses and victims.

According to preliminary information, the rocket attack was delivered at night, part of it was intercepted by Russian air defense, but about eight ammunition fell on the city. In particular, the streets of Chumichev and Mayakovsky suffered. Eyewitnesses confirm the active work of air defense, as well as a series of explosions in the city.

The shelling of the city was confirmed by the governor of the Belgorod region Vyacheslav Gladkov. According to him, emergency services are now working at the places where the shells hit, information about the victims is being collected, etc. One private house on the street is on fire. Mayakovsky 23.

Half an hour ago, a series of loud noises was heard in Belgorod. (...) All operational services are on site. There are three victims. They have already been taken to the hospital, all the necessary medical care is being provided. (...) Details will come later

- he wrote on his page in "VKontakte".

According to updated data, as a result of shelling from the Ukrainian side, multi-storey and private houses, cars were damaged, partially or completely destroyed. Four people were injured, one is in critical condition. There are reports of three dead.

Preliminary information at the moment: there is partial destruction of 11 apartment buildings along the streets of Mayakovsky, Michurin, Chumichov, Popov and Pavlov. And also at least 39 private residential buildings along Mayakovsky, Popov, Pavlov streets were partially destroyed, of which 5 were completely

Gladkov added.

Comments

[antivirus]

The rooster pecked.
Thunder boomed. The man has not crossed himself yet.
Warfare in high-waisted camisoles is not fashionable.
Waiting on the bridges across the Volga?

[Starover_Z]

Quote: antivirus

The rooster pecked.
Thunder boomed. The man has not crossed himself yet.
Warfare in high-waisted camisoles is not fashionable.
Waiting on the bridges across the Volga?

Today there will surely be 101 Chinese warnings from a spokesman....

[pharmacist]

Again there will be "pinpoint strikes" that in no way damage civilian infrastructure (this is not our method), as a result of which "even more nationalists and Western weapons" will be destroyed. Well, maybe these blows will be a little more than usual. The warnings will be worse than usual. We will hear calls "not to succumb to provocations", and "Kyiv is just waiting for this."
This is sad. Earth down the dead.

[alex neym_2]

And in Kyiv they are impatiently waiting for an answer in order to inflate it to the whole world with a cry: "What are we for?"...

[Ablet]

And he will also declare that it was the Russians who fired on themselves, and the pendrop will sing along with them.

[Boa kaa]

Quote from Ablet

And he will also declare that it was the Russians who fired on themselves, and the pendrop will sing along with them.

Our IZ.ru channel has shown that media footage of burning houses in Belgorod is being filed for the shelling of Ukrainian cities by the RF Armed Forces. And the pin / do / sov media is already replicating it to the fullest! They don't shy away from fairies!!!
ABOMINATION UNIVERSAL
And ours are still chewing snot and scratching behind the ear ... This is the question of how ours "promptly" cover events and wage an information war.

[Ilya-spb]

Send "Iskander" with special ammunition to Lviv.

But these are emotions. From the point of view of a military operation, no matter how cynical it sounds, a strike on residential areas does not make sense. It is needed to evoke emotions in us.

Therefore, let our troops act according to plan.

But, personally, I would use special ammunition. On military targets at the enemy.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Ilya-spb

But, personally, I would use special ammunition. On military targets at the enemy.

You don't mean NUCLEAR SBP, but increased power, YES!? For example, a volumetric explosion, or thermobaric ... If such, then I agree. And not in cities with a predominantly Russian-speaking population, but in the nesting places of the Nazis - Lviv, Uzh-gorod, Ivano-Frankivsk, Rivne ... There must be some kind of "military targets" there - factories, commandant's offices, garrisons ... Well , if they missed ... this also happens, then war, demilitarization, denazification! And where to go from this?

[futurohunter]

Ilya-spb
personally, I would use special ammunition

Here are those who "personally" usually have a very poor idea of ​​what it is about, and about the consequences of the military and political. Any real use of even one "special ammunition" against any target will bring a momentary effect, and absolutely devastating consequences, and not only for the user ... Put aside harmful and stupid talk!

[Sebostyuan]

Your suggestions? Carry out NWO looking back at the opinion of Kyiv and the West. Wash and so we played in the giveaway.

[Alien From]

If this time again the leadership will chew snot again, the people will not understand.

[ohka]

The people are silent... A.S. Pushkin. "Boris Godunov" (Articles 20.3.3 and 20.3.4 of the Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation)

[Antonina Ignatenko]

The people are silent ...

But the trolls mobilized. And it's enough just to read a tape of organized "angry comments" to understand why Zele and the United States needed this militarily useless action. They need to force the Russian Federation into a tough response and again remind the "world community", and most importantly, the Ukrainians themselves, who is "good" here and who is the aggressor. And then the Ukrainian mothers, whose sons were first taken away, and now they are trying to shave them into recruits, seem to have begun to get lost in the "correct" assessment of what is happening.

[Grits]

Quote: Alien From

If this time again the leadership will chew snot again, the people will not understand.

Will be, will be. They are not the first time to chew them. In addition, the leadership does not care deeply about the opinion of the people. But Western partners may not understand ...

[hector]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Alien From

If this time again the leadership will chew snot again, the people will not understand.

Will be, will be. They are not the first time to chew them. In addition, the leadership does not care deeply about the opinion of the people. But Western partners may not understand ...

There are vague suspicions - the answer will be very asymmetric: they will pay off the debt ahead of schedule in order to confirm special reliability and decency to partners, or they will convene some kind of international economic forum or make another gesture of very good will, or maybe all this together.

[mikh-korsakov]

"Besides, the leadership does not care deeply about the opinion of the people."? But in vain. Those who took the position of unconditional approval, sir, usually refer to the example of the Great Patriotic War. Like, how long would someone live who would dare to PUBLICLY criticize the Sovinformburo, not to mention personally ... But meanwhile the USSR won, as if doing without advisers. But such a comparison is invalid. Because during the Patriotic War there was neither the State Duma nor the liberal press, there were only 2 opinions - official and hostile. But in the modern Russian Federation there is both the State Duma and the liberal press, and even opinions ... Therefore, it is necessary to compare with the times of the First World War, those times in terms of way of life more coincided with the present. And what do we see. As soon as the Russian army was defeated in 1915, the liberal cockroaches came to life, what Milyukov alone is worth, and quickly introduced into the minds of the people that there was treason in the General Staff, that the generals were mediocre, that the queen was a spy, although all this was not so. The people believed. what this led to, I hope, no need to explain. Therefore, the people need to be told the truth, because by the way, front-line reporters respected by me, and not Konashenkov's department, do it.

[mikh-korsakov]

Are they waiting for answers in Kyiv? Yes, let them wait. It is important that the response is such that Ukraine's desire to shell our cities is gone. And what about GDP, will we chew snot again? Understanding the political consequences, unknown to me, unpleasant for Russia of a strike on decision-making centers in the field of fine diplomacy, I would separate two tasks. The task of hitting the decision-making centers, and the task of punishing the hit on our cities. I would not lay the order to strike as a punishment on Putin, because this one will hesitate and consult, finding out the consequences of our strike. In case of punishment, I would have the necessary ammunition and a set of target designations for Kharkov. A short time after the strike on Belgorod, he would strike a crushing blow on Kharkov, having as targets all industrial enterprises, places of concentration of manpower, not embarrassed in the vicinity of residential buildings, railway infrastructure, including viaducts, traction substations, a freight station. The blow must be of such strength and duration as to cause panic among the local population, so that they run as it was in the first days of the war. It would be sensitive, but let the West go about their vile machinations - we have nothing to lose. As for the means of striking. then they should be dispersed so that the enemy does not guess.

[NNikolaich]

Why smash Kharkiv? We then restore it.
Are there few other cities? Lvov is a very good city, also on the western border, but not in Russia, but on the outskirts. good goal

[Old sergeant]

Attack on Kharkov?
Kharkov is not a regional center. The entire infrastructure cannot be threshed. And why?
To restore ourselves. The fact that the city will be ours is unequivocal. Golovnyak in the General Staff of Russia is added and added.

[NNikolaich]

Why hammer Kharkov???
There are practically Russian people there, this is a city of a million people, a scientific and industrial center, in general it would be good to take it whole, unharmed and save people.
And in order to adequately answer, there are other targets on the outskirts, preferably the western outskirts. They hate Russia there, they have already received Polish passports, so you can answer there

[Alex Kron]

Don't be fooled. Russians in Odessa were burned, including Russians from Kharkov. They have degenerated there for 30 years of banderization. Only the elderly remained loyal to Russia. Russian in Ukraine does not say anything.

[NNikolaich]

After the capture of Berlin, the Germans suddenly improved their eyesight and memory!))))
They discovered the crimes of the Nazi Party and the SS....
And then the East Germans suddenly became our best friends!
And Eastern Ukrainians will. You just need to take Kyiv, and never go back from the left bank of the Dnieper and the southern regions, never!
The fate of their country (right-bank) will be decided by the wise people of the outskirts themselves, if our bases there stand from Kiev to Lvov, always

[Alex Kron]

Nobody will take Kyiv. This is unrealistic and unnecessary. In the Second World War, 4 fronts advanced in Ukraine, and we have SO.

[NNikolaich]

Kyiv will not need to be taken.
When the remnants of the Geynazis flee to gay Europe, the wise Ukrainians will quickly line up for Russian passports

[mikh-korsakov]

Yuri. Kharkiv residents have changed their shoes for a long time. Almost all of them are stoned Nazis, for nothing that they speak Russian. Even in 2014, they took part in the destruction of the trade union building in Odessa. "Other targets" in western Ukraine are currently inaccessible to strikes of such force that people would run from there. It makes no sense to punish "slightly", because, indeed, Kyiv is waiting for a symbolic answer from us, so that later it can be used as a provocation. So there is no way to punish Lvov yet, unfortunately.

[Vlodek]

I'm not a rocket scientist.
Can't you attach a warhead from the "Sun" to the "Caliber"? And for targets in the Lviv region? BUT?

[NNikolaich]

No way? Disagree.
You can always punish, the main thing would be for what, and that the degree of punishment corresponds to the degree of misconduct (crime)
How to punish Lviv?
Criminals from the outskirts of the security forces, if they are from the western outskirts, to be judged by the maximum standards, without any regret, it doesn’t matter if a man or a pregnant sniper committed the crime, the sentences should be carried out publicly, covered in the media.

Residents of the western regions of the outskirts will very quickly draw the necessary conclusions.

Most of the Westerners, it seems, just go to bloody earnings in the Donbass, however, like half of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the past 8 years, they just go to Europe, let them earn money.
In general, Khokhliki have settled down nicely in recent decades, women work as prostitutes throughout Europe, and earlier, by the way, in Moscow, and men are hired killers in the Donbass ...
The broad suburbs are a nation of murderers and prostitutes!

[Vlad.by]

It is necessary to beat not on Ukrainians!
Why not hit the nearest RTR aircraft over the sea?
Well, the rocket flew away, did the Ukrainians point at a passenger plane? Why can't our rocket target Poseidon?
And immediately the meaning of the answer will be clear

[Edvid]

Why such consequences.
There are also special services. It has long been necessary to liquidate the most odious figures in the leadership of Ukraine. In this case, we can refer to the actions of Stalin. His special service "got" enemies anywhere in the world.

[Shilov49]

It is urgent to move dill from the border, and only in the form of a load - 200. But it is not necessary to wipe Kyiv or Kharkov from the face of the earth. But we should not forget that we will have to restore. Does it make sense to destroy???

[U_GOREC]

Quote from Pharmacist

Again there will be "pinpoint strikes" that in no way damage civilian infrastructure

What kind of infrastructure are you? Those are assets! They can then be privatized!

[your1970]

Quote from U_GOREC

Quote from Pharmacist

Again there will be "pinpoint strikes" that in no way damage civilian infrastructure

What kind of infrastructure are you? Those are assets! They can then be privatized!

That is, you don’t realize that it’s much more profitable to privatize the ruins? So that later - at public expense - to build them from scratch and get not the ancient times of the USSR, but fresh objects from scratch ....
For the oligarchs, the infrastructure of Ukraine destroyed to zero is many times more profitable - it’s easier and more voluminous to cut this way ...

[U_GOREC]

Quote: your1970

That is, you don’t realize that it’s much more profitable to privatize the ruins? So that later - at public expense - to build them from scratch and get not the ancient times of the USSR, but fresh objects from scratch ....
For the oligarchs, the infrastructure of Ukraine destroyed to zero is many times more profitable - it’s easier and more voluminous to cut this way ...

If you are talking about the housing stock, then I agree. And if about industrial facilities ... We are not the USSR, we will not be able to build a lot ourselves, without "partnership" with the outside world ... Azovstal will never be restored!

[your1970]

Quote from U_GOREC

And speaking of industrial facilities...

Just about industrial (including substations), as well as tunnels and bridges.

Quote from U_GOREC

Azovstal will never be restored!

of course ... no one needs competitors ..
And the Ukrainians themselves ruined the industry there a long time ago, so there is no point in restoring it.

[U_GOREC]

Quote: your1970

of course ... no one needs competitors ..
And the Ukrainians themselves ruined the industry there a long time ago, so there is no point in restoring it.

But what about the wonderful stories about the production of neon, without which the entire production of chips will die?

[your1970]

Quote from U_GOREC

Quote: your1970

of course ... no one needs competitors ..
And the Ukrainians themselves ruined the industry there a long time ago, so there is no point in restoring it.

But what about the wonderful stories about the production of neon, without which the entire production of chips will die?

And where does Ukraine?

[MrTulandra]

Warnings will be worse than usual

Didn't guess! The warning was funnier than usual: “Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said that Moscow “refrains from retaliating against Kyiv’s actions, but is closely monitoring the situation.”
“If provocations continue, they will not be in trouble,” she added.

[Taimen]

People, why are you so inflamed here? It's time to get used to co-operation and liberal nonsense with making money on everything. They laughed at Brezhnev that ": - Eyebrows are black, thick, speeches are long, empty." And now, what? and empty promises for how many years. And you want something to be done. the silence of the lambs is said. And the people should sing hosannas, and not engage in various criticism and freethinking. So, calm down, everything is going according to plan. There will be no reaction (not our decision-making center was hit), therefore they will not be hit either It’s all about garlic. And then they’ve been waiting, since April 21. This is Konashenkov’s blizzard, as the President says. Now everyone is surrounded by him. Either Peskov, then Konashenkov, then Lavrov.

[mikh-korsakov]

everything goes according to plan.? Yes, according to the plan, only the plans are different.

[Antonina Ignatenko]

everything goes according to plan.?

That's it! The fact that the Ukronats pulled themselves together and issued this provocation just speaks of a turning point in the attitude of the Ukrainian people to the war and to Zelensky. The careful attitude of the Russian Federation towards the people of Ukraine is bearing fruit: Zelya appears in his eyes as a ghoul, and Russia as a protector. And Zele urgently needs some kind of response, a blow to Kyiv or something else disgusting, in order to fuel the hostility of the Ukrainians and the entire Western world towards Russia. And to beg for this case some really dangerous weapon, well, money, the stump is clear.

[mikh-korsakov]

Since such a thing has gone, then I personally do not give a damn about what Zelensky and world syphilization need. They have already decided everything among themselves and are supplying Ukraine with quantum satis weapons. One thing is clear to me, that an attempt to bomb Russian cities should lead to such consequences that it would no longer be disgusting. As for the opinion of the Ukrainian people, until now, the attitude towards the Russians has improved with the surrender of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into captivity, while also, lo and behold, there has been a retraining. They quickly turned from real fighters into chefs. In place of the competent authorities, I would give the task to such a "cook" to cook at least buckwheat porridge.

[bandabas]

Transfer this company of "talking heads" to Belgorod.

[Elephant]

Quote: bandabas

Transfer this company of "talking heads" to Belgorod.

At the same time, Shoigu from Moscow with his ministry, so that they feel for themselves

[DenVB]

Quote: Elephant

At the same time, Shoigu from Moscow with his ministry, so that they feel for themselves

These are not to Belgorod, these are necessary directly to Donetsk. And with families.

[Ivan Ivanov]

With all the richness of choice, 2 ways seem reasonable - move the front line as soon as possible and destroy the high command / political leadership (which should have been done at the very beginning, if possible).

[Old sergeant]

Is it MLRS?
8 shells flew as they say. Houses of multi-apartment and private judging by the photo were not destroyed by 8 shells. In the west, Belgorod destruction will not be seen.
There will be an arrival in Kyiv, that's for sure, but they will see it.
And the howl will begin at Ze, let the rockets reach Moscow.
People feel sorry for the innocent, for any Kharkiv region will be taken in an emergency mode. There is definitely not enough people and technology for everything.

[Egg]

There were 3 missiles, 2 were shot down in front of my eyes at 3 am, the third one flew, I heard an explosion at about 3:15, at 3:23 the first videos appeared in the Belgorod teregram channel

[hector]

Quote: Telur

There were 3 missiles, 2 were shot down in front of my eyes at 3 am, the third one flew, I heard an explosion at about 3:15, at 3:23 the first videos appeared in the Belgorod teregram channel

39 private and 10 high-rise buildings were damaged, for three missiles there was too much, they missed more.

[Egg]

The explosion of one warhead of point Y is enough to blow out the windows in the surrounding high-rise buildings, the pictures show that private houses around the explosion are damaged, but not completely destroyed. 1 house is completely destroyed, the rest have various degrees of destruction. In fact, all 3 Y points were hit by air defense, but one was shot down too late. I can’t upload the video, but there is one where you can see the explosion of an air defense missile immediately before the explosion of point U. I can send a link to this video on the Belgorod telegram channel.
Confirmation of the work of air defense is a photo with the tail section of a shell rocket stuck in the wall of the house and the remains of the Tochka U rocket in one of the destroyed houses.

[NNikolaich]

If in the near future, without waiting for the end of the liberation of Donbass, dill is not thrown out of the Kharkiv region to a safe distance in order to prevent continued shelling of Russian cities, then all of us Russians may not like it very much.
What kind of Special Operation is this, during which Russian cities are shot down?
Special-whose????
It is clear that our main goal is the liberation of Donbass, but not at the cost of shooting down Russian cities?
Is it possible that someone in our leadership is seeking instability in Russian society??

[NNikolaich]

When the Armed Forces of Ukraine shell the Donetsk cities, we reassure ourselves, like this NVO is going through there, anything can happen ...
But what the hell is the SVO, if Russians are proud of being fired upon!
Then it's not your own, it's war!

This means that we urgently need to adequately answer on Ukrainian territory, from Kyiv to Lviv, on infrastructure elements, bridges, electrical substations, shitty pipelines

[Vlad1097]

The Defense Ministry has all the means to deliver a massive retaliatory strike on the entire western logistics infrastructure of Ukraine, there are no problems to assemble 2000 OTRK missiles and cruise land-based and air-based ones - only the General Staff are very indecisive in this regard. In general, it was necessary in the first days to destroy two or more thousand objects of the military infrastructure of the Armed Forces of Ukraine until they came to their senses and not within 4 months when the Armed Forces of Ukraine distributed all their forces throughout Ukraine with ammunition and equipment that you could cover them with.

[Ivan Ivanov]

GSH has nothing to do with it, it's politics

[Vlad1097]

Just and - because the brakes.

[sailor]

To answer, we need fighters, a lot of fighters! But the situation in Russia is such that if you announce mobilization now, everything will scatter like rats in all directions. This is only in words all the heroes, but just touch and zilch, they were blown away! Who will go to war for Russia now, the generation of Morgenstern, Milokhin and the like, the generation of burgers and cola? A generation that served, if it did, then 12 months, for which they didn’t even understand which side to keep the machine? Funny, to say the least! Leberesnya, over the years of her reign, has done everything to eradicate the Russian spirit in Russia.

[NNikolaich]

There is no need for any mobilization, why such extremes ....
Just increase the term of military service by six months ~ a year, perhaps, depending on the type of troops

[AUL]

Everything is going according to plan, you say? I wonder who made this plan?

According to preliminary information, the rocket attack was delivered at night, part of it was intercepted by Russian air defense, but about eight ammunition fell on the city.

Preliminary information at the moment: there is partial destruction of 11 apartment buildings along the streets of Mayakovsky, Michurin, Chumichov, Popov and Pavlov. And also at least 39 private residential buildings along Mayakovsky, Popov, Pavlov streets were partially destroyed, of which 5 were completely

Was it all done by 8 shells?

[T.A.V.]

One gets the feeling that its population is not important. They play don’t understand what, while our civilians in the Russian Federation are being shot. All that remained was to rush and threaten with Chinese warnings.
Because of this "impotence" and not be afraid of us, all sorts of mongrels, such as Lithuania, not to mention the United States, etc.

[lucul]

Today there will surely be 101 Chinese warnings from a spokesman....

Mmmm ...
The article says

As reported in social networks, the city, presumably, worked out the MLRS "Hurricane"

Was it really the Hurricane MLRS, or maybe it was the HIMARS MLRS? Have you already studied shell fragments?

[navigator777]

I already wrote that there will never be a strike on acceptance centers, and if there is, then the deterrent will disappear and everything that can fly to Belgorod will fly every day, without stopping, like in Donetsk and Russia NOTHING! can't do it with it. They hit Dontsk and Yasynuvata, did they do something? Nothing! because they can't.

[Vlad1097]

Nichrome was to withdraw troops from the Chernihiv Sumy region - now we are raking away from the most stupid "Gesture of good will" on the part of our General Staff and the government.

[Goha]

Because they didn’t deliberately introduce it and many of our people died.

[Vlad1097]

And they deduced that automatically made our losses there generally useless.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote: antivirus

The rooster pecked.
Thunder boomed. The man has not crossed himself yet.
Warfare in high-waisted camisoles is not fashionable.
Waiting on the bridges across the Volga?

Today there will surely be 101 Chinese warnings from a spokesman....

Most likely, in this case, he will modestly keep silent.

[Grits]

Quote: Starover_Z

Today there will surely be 101 Chinese warnings from a spokesman....

As well as another co-operation on "decision-making centers"

[Goha]

The warning has already taken place! The Russian Foreign Ministry, represented by Zakharova, said: Moscow is refraining from retaliatory steps to Kyiv's provocations, but is monitoring the situation.

[Vlad1097]

Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs is frank crap.

[BSD Fan]

What are you saying?! Not! A gesture of goodwill will be made to support the UN's efforts to eliminate the tears of a child in suburban London!

[Dikson]

. no one fights with such pockets ..!

[belovvladimir]

Well, now let's see, the response from the Ministry of Defense, otherwise it’s just words, words, it’s time to hit the Nazis and the decision-making centers!

[from Dagorlad]

Do you yourself believe in it? In 1940 there was already one "strange war" now something similar, unfortunately

[Starover_Z]

Quote: belovvladimir

Well, now let's see, the response from the Ministry of Defense, otherwise it’s just words, words, it’s time to hit the Nazis and the decision-making centers!

At least the high-voltage lines supplying Kyiv should be separated with step-down substations, but that's all, not 1-2! So that the whole city feels, otherwise they feast, fatten in their center!

[ARIONkrsk]

All western railway tracks and stations should be demolished, as well as railway bridges and tunnels.

[Ablet]

It's long overdue. Only now we need road bridges to boot, so that Europe can only be reached by swimming or on wings.

[NNikolaich]

Start with the tunnels on the border with Poland

[SKVichyakow]

Quote from Ablet

It's long overdue. Only now we need road bridges to boot, so that Europe can only be reached by swimming or on wings.

It is necessary to destroy all existing crossings: railway, automobile, pedestrian.

[Grits]

Quote: belovvladimir

Well, now let's see, the response from the Ministry of Defense, otherwise it’s just words, words, it’s time to hit the Nazis and the decision-making centers!

What to watch? We already know what will happen - but nothing will happen. Let's swallow this, not the first time.

[Thrifty]

We urgently need a new "goodwill gesture" from the Kremlin, with the withdrawal of troops from their positions in order to show their unnecessary peacefulness! Didn't Putin say that once he swung, then strike first? Why are our Russian lands still shelled with impunity? a couple of hundred kilometers deep into the country? Out of fear of offending the "Kremle partners? Well, everything is clear, the missiles are not hitting the Kremlin.!!!

[aglet]

"Well, everything is clear, the rockets are not hitting the Kremlin.!!!"
before that, not long left. xhoxly guys are handy and big-headed, they will come up with something. another thing, there is no one in the Kremlin

[Grits]

Quote: Thrifty

Why are our Russian lands still shelled with impunity? Why don't we move the borders a couple of hundred kilometers deep into the country?

Because they were preparing to beat NATO, roll tanks to Lisbon. What to take from them, from the NATO members - jerked off shells. But faced with Ukraine. And it turned out to be cooler than NATO, because Russian people also live there. Truth with a broken head.
But seriously, it turned out in fact that our army is not so great, and not at all the second in the world. And that we don’t have enough strength at all.

[MBRSS]

The answer should be exclusively in Kyiv. Iskanders. Moreover, the goals (infrastructure facilities) can be announced in advance, in order to avoid human casualties.

[NNikolaich]

By Lviv!!!

[Grits]

Quote: MBRBS

Moreover, the goals (infrastructure facilities) can be announced in advance, in order to avoid human casualties.

When hitting the Rada, I would not have announced in advance

[value]

Soon we will hear from the Plywood Marshal that everything is going according to plan. Well, if it was Kozhegutovich's plan, then why do we need such a government.

[Evil 55]

If they shoot, it means they have the opportunity .. The firing radius of 9K57 is forty kilometers and from Belgorod to the border in a straight line 37 km, which means that the shooting was carried out either from the territory of the Russian Federation or from the very border area. Which also does not reassure ... They perceive these attacks are like a kind of "Doolittle raids", and our units, for some reason, cannot push the enemy further deep into his territory .. hi

[Dingo]

Better along Rublyovka and Barvikha ...

[Antonina Ignatenko]

What our government really needs to do yesterday is to deanonymize the Internet. You look at all these aglets, antiviruses and sergeys under all serial numbers, read how they turned on! Add to this the provocateur Khodakovsky, the incomprehensible Leonkov and Tatarsky, "Older Edda", whose name carries Chubais a mile away, and a bunch of other pseudo-patriots, and the conclusion will be the same: the entire media field of Russia is crammed with national traitors. And on the side of the Kremlin - solid stupid sing-alongs. Well, at least make life difficult for them, make it stand for something along with the name of the ah-pee, or else how to keep track of who is scribbling all these vile things from where!

[aglet]

"Look at all those aiguillettes,"
dear lady, what do you have to my comments? Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I express it. If you don't like it, argue, prove me wrong. our authorities have made so many mistakes in this campaign that you have to be Antonina Ignatenko not to notice this and approve all their actions
"Or else how to keep track of who is scribbling all these vile things from where!"
can you give an example of those infamies that I, according to your "scribble"? and yet, your nickname is no better than mine, and carries just as much information. I’m not hiding anywhere, although there are methods, a specialist in the service will easily determine all my coordinates, if the authorities need it, well, or at your request, write a cart to the prosecutor’s office that I’m an extremist, I’m spreading something and insulting your feelings, and you immediately it will become easier, you will begin to sleep peacefully, your appetite will appear, and finally, life will get better
"And on the side of the Kremlin - solid stupid sing-alongs. Well, at least complicate their life, make them stand for something along with the name"
did you notice it too? I don't get it, why make life difficult for them?
"Look at all these aglets, antiviruses and sergeys under all serial numbers, read how they turned on!"
it's you who suddenly turned on, and I haven't turned off for a long time

[Dikson]

..According to preliminary data, there is partial destruction of 11 apartment buildings... And, as always, journalists.. - "pops were heard in Belgorod at night." - Residents applauded, right? How tired of this insinuating diminutive lie!!! Call a spade a spade already! There, people are dying under explosions, on our territory, we have been "conducting special operations for 4 months, yeah .." But we still have "claps" and "gestures of good will" .. Have you fought, waited for long-range weapons?

[Dimy4]

Have you fought, waited for long-range weapons?

It's just that Ukraine is fighting for real, and our Kremlin inmates still do not lose hope that Europe will like it again.

[Andrey Moskvin]

11 high-rise buildings are already more than 8 rockets. And 39 more private.

[Vlad1097]

Something tells me that not 8 missiles flew there, but 80, possibly from Tornadoes and Hurricanes, and possibly 155 millimeters worked actively with reactive ones that can hit 42 kilometers.

[Gvardeetz77]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

11 high-rise buildings are already more than 8 rockets. And 39 more private.

At the top, they believe that our people do not know how to think and count and believe what is said in the main media without a shadow of a doubt, well, this is conditional: "prices for goods and communal services are growing by 20-25%, salaries and pensions by as much as 5%, and purchasing power and life against this background improves twice, "according to official statistics ...

[pharmacist]

Did we pretend to believe that Kyiv would not use long-range systems? Were they brought? Well, here are the first flowers. By the way, the Izvestiya channel reports that long-range MLRS fired at Melitopol twice. It was a night, only mats...

[aglet]

"How tired of this insinuating diminutive lie!!! Call a spade a spade already!"
get used to it, it's newspeak

[Dikson]

I’m not going to get used to it .. - it’s already old, so that I can be retrained .. And I don’t throw out the letter Y from words .. - you need to respect and love your native language ..

[aglet]

"And I don’t throw out the letter Yo from the words .. - you need to respect and love your native language .."
like

[zurbagan63]

"pops were heard in Belgorod at night"

There were also "loud sounds", they were afraid of words in essence.

[Al manah]

They hit the squares.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Al Manah

They hit the squares.

Well, you're right Captain Obvious.

[evgen1221]

During the week, we should expect precipitation in calibers in Kukuev then. Weather forecast from mo rf.

[Sergey3]

I do not believe!!! Yes, and not a caliber is needed there, but working out in deep bunkers.

[dmi.pris1]

Do you believe the weather forecasts?. Such a storm is needed here. Moreover, from Kharkov and Sumy to Uzhgorod ..

[Xenofont]

Rozhin writes that four Iskanders were fired across Kharkov, moreover, two at one point. This, of course, is good, but it is time to resolve the issue radically, because the credibility of the authorities with such a trend will be greatly undermined.

[Victor Demchenko]

Quote: Xenofont

for the credibility of the authorities with such a trend will be greatly undermined

already! and it will most likely not be possible to restore it!

[Grits]

Quote: evgen1221

During the week, we should expect precipitation in calibers in Kukuev then. Weather forecast from mo rf.

gee gee. Swimming, we know...

[Dimy4]

Now, if it's like that again, then we'll ask how. MMM yeah. What words to say here except obscene I do not know.

[Grits]

Quote: Dimy4

Now, if it’s like that again, then we’ll ask how

This is probably the surprise from Gerasimov's trip.

[Dilettante grandfather]

And we keep pretending like nothing happened. Normal, right? Why the hell do we continue to stubbornly ignore the fact that it is necessary not only to carry out the NMD in the Donbass, but to strike with serious forces towards Kyiv and Lvov? That until we cut off all the routes for the supply of weapons from Poland and Romania, physically, and not with the help of missile strikes, they will not stop attacking our territory? If there is a war against the West, then how long can you almond with the Nazis?

[Gardamir]

Always strains this pronoun "we". There is no need to compare yourself with the liberal generals and others who are waiting for the return of partnership.
It’s interesting to me that these people will not even symbolically appoint a person responsible for what happened. I would like to ask in the spirit of Joseph Vissarionovich, "What will Comrade Putin say?" However, it is important not what he says, but what he does. yes, and will it.

[aglet]

"What will Comrade Putin say?"
Comrade Putin will say a lot of things, as always. everyone will like it, only after half an hour he will already forget what he was talking about

[carstorm 11]

Spread-finger strike is your strategy. We won't cut them. There are always ways. They don't get equipment non-stop. Smudging a few MLRS installations is a fairly simple task. Come back to reality already. These are shares. They take a long time to prepare. They do not affect the strategic objectives. These blows are so that later we would throw tantrums here. There is no XNUMX% protection. The air defense worked great. In Kursk, everything was shot down. Here one flew. Think about what is the purpose of such actions.

[taiga2018]

Quote: carstorm 11

. These blows are so that later we would throw tantrums here.

Exactly so. And after all, those who are actually happy with these blows, those who, on this wave of hysteria, are trying to arouse dissatisfaction with the majority of the ongoing NWO, will be hysterical to a greater extent.

[cmax]

Quote: taiga2018

Quote: carstorm 11

. These blows are so that later we would throw tantrums here.

Exactly so. And after all, those who are actually happy with these blows, those who, on this wave of hysteria, are trying to arouse dissatisfaction with the majority of the ongoing NWO, will be hysterical to a greater extent.

I'm dumbfounded by your logic ...... to whom (you) - hysteria, and to whom in Belgorod the morgue today and the cemetery tomorrow. You don't want to be in their place.

[Gardamir]

These will soon openly begin to talk about hatred for Russia. look at Taiga someone puts pluses. for what he said they are shooting at Russia, this is hysteria, Russians are dying, this is garbage.

[carstorm 11]

Who says it's bullshit? These are the realities of combat. This happens sometimes.

[taiga2018]

Quote: Gardamir

for what he said they are shooting at Russia, this is hysteria, Russians are dying, this is garbage.

Do not attribute to me what I did not say, dear ...

[carstorm 11]

Logic? This is reality. Do you want logic? OK. How can this blow affect military operations? No. But for people, yes. And you prove it. Yes. This is a big grief for someone. And I sympathize with them from the bottom of my heart. But there will be victims and it is foolish to deny it. The goal is to minimize them. I assure you soon they will switch to terrorist attacks. Intimidate the population.

[taiga2018]

Quote: cmax

and to whom in Belgorod the morgue today and the cemetery tomorrow.

Since you just don’t give a damn about those who are in the morgue and in the cemetery, the main thing for you is to raise a wave by joining the choir of liberalism ...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: carstorm 11

Spread-finger strike is your strategy. We won't cut them. There are always ways. They don't get equipment non-stop. Smuggling several MLRS installations is a fairly simple task.

Write - hit "Hurricane"
Full package - 16 pcs. Air defense worked out as best they could, but they could not shoot down the full package. The distance is annoying. At "Hurricane" 36 km. And the map gives 37 from the border to Belgorod. Maybe to the center of Belgorod, but in reality, to quarters, less ... Although they could have gone abroad a little. An obvious provocation. To provoke a cruel "response"...

[carstorm 11]

I don't think it's a hurricane. Yesterday, the states issued an analyst - the Armed Forces of Ukraine, probably planning to strike with weapons supplied by the West on the positions of the Russian Armed Forces throughout the Kharkiv region. And here it is. Somehow I don't believe in coincidences. In Kursk, the same blow at the same time. The distance is even greater. Air defense shot down everything. And for the reason, I almost agree with you. But my opinion is that they want us to start cleaning Kharkov.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: carstorm 11

I don't think it's a hurricane. Yesterday, the states issued an analyst - the Armed Forces of Ukraine, probably planning to strike with weapons supplied by the West on the positions of the Russian Armed Forces throughout the Kharkiv region

I guess you are right. HIMARS is notable for its slow launch. And the distance is right.
They will collect the fragments, clarify ... And it would not hurt to let the "Dagger" through the bunker on Bankovaya. Purely for demonstration purposes. I hope our General Staff has the exact coordinates of the bunker ...

[carstorm 11]

Just understand me correctly. It will be very good if it is HIMARS. Because this chatter that 404 promised not to shoot in the Russian Federation got it. The fact that yesterday the states were talking about the fact that with each installation a person rides who will not allow it to be done and other nonsense. The time has already come to recognize as an enemy all this community of freaks that this weapon gives them. This will free many from the remnants of illusions.

[Dikson]

They are already writing - under the cover of MLRS, several Tochek-Us were fired .. here you have "one shell fell" ..

[carstorm 11]

Here on etgm vidro everything is visible and clear. I know about trying to overload the air defense, but it did not work.
https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/86502

[aglet]

"There is no XNUMX% protection. The air defense worked perfectly. In Kursk, everything was shot down. Then one flew. Think about what goal is pursued from such actions."
I'm more interested in what is the purpose of such comments. Everything is going according to plan, isn't it?

[Repellent]

Quote: aglet

Quote: carstorm 11

There is no XNUMX% protection. The air defense worked great. In Kursk, everything was shot down. Here one flew. Think about what is the purpose of such actions

I'm more interested in what is the purpose of such comments

carstorm 11, unlike local hypojers, writes from the point of view of an ordinary military man.

You can not understand.

Quote: aglet

Everything is going according to plan, isn't it?

No. Now there will be adjustments to the plans. Already answered:

Quote: https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/

In response, they worked out from Belgorod in Kharkov - 5 Iskanders were fired, 2 of which entered the same target

[sniperino]

Quote: carstorm 11

These blows are so that later we would throw tantrums here.

You can't really say. Therefore, all those throwing tantrums about this in the media should be considered as accomplices of the ukrovermacht, and the degree of their sanity should be determined by the investigation. There is probably a super task: to cause hysteria in the General Staff so that they start bombing Ukrainian cities like the Germans did in 41.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Or maybe you should be shot as an accomplice of the people who created this whole situation?

[sniperino]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Or maybe you should be shot as an accomplice of the people who created this whole situation?

That is, this whole situation in Ukraine was created not by the Americans, whose accomplice you are, but by someone here? I'll try to guess. Putin? It is not necessary to transfer arrows from their owners to our president; they muddied it all up, and ours have to rake it.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: sniperino

That is, this whole situation in Ukraine was created not by the Americans, whose accomplice you are, but by someone here? I'll try to guess. Putin? It is not necessary to transfer arrows from their owners to our president; they muddied it all up, and ours have to rake it.

Screwed up for the umpteenth time security in his repertoire. The Americans are not my friends and partners, but your president. And it was not me who built Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok. Your demagogy will not work. I remember everything about the May decrees and about other promises that were forgiven the people once again. You tell me that the Americans have been squeezing the plants squeezed out during privatization to dryness for 30 years and leading them to bankruptcy. Or those people whom Putin promised that there would be no revision of the results of privatization? It's not just about Putin, it's about a rotten system. Which led to the fact that as a result of success in foreign policy, we are now essentially in a besieged fortress. From which the bastions are repulsed one by one. Such successes that almost Belarus did not disappear. It seems that the Americans prevented our nouveaux riches from developing the economy for thirty years. It was they who forced them to banally rob their people through the wildest corruption schemes, giving all sorts of bulk justifiably to criticize the current authorities for corruption. All this was done by the Americans. So it turns out that in fact, protecting this system, it is you who work for the Americans, and not me.

[sniperino]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

It seems that the Americans prevented our nouveaux riches from developing the economy for thirty years.

Miracle! A miracle happened on the forum! The blind man has seen.
Now they are shooting themselves in the foot to prevent us from moving forward with a confident step.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: sniperino

Miracle! A miracle happened on the forum! The blind man has seen.

In your case, the miracle did not happen. Your confident tread is the hysterical jogging of a decrepit nag driven into formation. Into which, with your help, this country has also been turned. Your pathetic attempts at sarcasm are as disgusting as yourself.

[sniperino]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Your confident tread is the hysterical jogging of a decrepit nag driven into formation... Your pitiful attempts at sarcasm are as disgusting as yourself.

I'm not talking about my step, ghoul; I'm talking about the confident step of my country into history, which I observe from the couch online. I admire her, most and the best part of the world admires her. And you, fecal thrower, spoil the picture for me with your disgusting communication. Yes, I hope it's clear.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: sniperino

I admire her, most and the best part of the world admires her. And you, fecal thrower, spoil the picture for me with your disgusting communication. Yes, I hope it's clear.

It is clear that you are a banal demagogue. He admires Russia, which you parasites lost in 17. With poor, illiterate peasants, no medicine, backward industry and science. I don’t need such a Russia for nothing. And you need a Russia that will drown you parasites in your own shit. And finally return to the path of communism.

[Grits]

Quote: sniperino

There is probably a super task: to cause hysteria in the General Staff so that they start bombing Ukrainian cities like the Germans did in 41.

Personally, I would not be against Lviv, Ternopil, Rivne and other cities nearby.

[sniperino]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: sniperino

There is probably a super task: to cause hysteria in the General Staff so that they start bombing Ukrainian cities like the Germans did in 41.

Personally, I would not be against Lviv, Ternopil, Rivne and other cities nearby.

There may not be enough bombs for London, Washington, Houston, Silicon Valley...

[NNikolaich]

"Come back to reality, it's like just a stock..."
You explain this to the families of the victims and the dead. They will believe you, our people believe a man with shoulder straps

[carstorm 11]

Action in the sense that a single. What to tell them? That there is a war going on 40 km from their city? For 4 months they could already understand it. From that day on, their lives will change even more. Now they are waiting for the air raid siren at night. For the transition to the shelling of cities from 404 on our side dictates this. Today a lot has changed.

[Dikson]

By and large, the difference is small - call it hysteria or hype, or something else .. Just, let's at least on this resource, which is called "military review", and not "glomour in camouflage", call shelling - shelling, explosions - explosions, and not "claps", but frank failures and mistakes - mistakes, and not "variable successes" and other conveniently streamlined words ..? If there is success - let it be so, if there is trouble - do not pretend that nothing is happening .. Because those who shout - "we will hit with a nuclear club!" Where are our "Iskanders?!" - no better than those who lament - "Now he will fly to Moscow!" or - "tanks ran out!!!" .. Air defense worked, did it work? Well done.. Did you miss it? It’s bad .. well, we haven’t built the “Iron Dome” along the border with Ukraine .. There will be more arrivals and sabotage on the railways .. that’s why civilian airports are closed in southern Russia .. it’s clear for what reasons ..

[AdAstra]

And about air defense, I think the inhabitants of the destroyed houses and the relatives of the dead and wounded will not agree.

[carstorm 11]

And who will condemn them for this? But the inhabitants of those houses in which it flew but didn’t hit will say. Air defense is not a panacea. And their responsibility is the wildest. Judging by the remnants of a shell from a marching rocket on one of the houses, they worked. But she fell anyway. IMHO of course

[AdAstra]

You tell the Jews about this with their "Iron Dome".

[carstorm 11]

What can I say?) 2011 to 2020, according to the Israeli Ministry of Defense, she hit 85 percent of all targets. It?

[Antonina Ignatenko]

These are shares. They take a long time to prepare. They do not affect the strategic objectives. These blows are so that later we would throw tantrums here.

Yes, and, as the comrade above said, so that we would commit some kind of useless atrocity in return, after which Europe would shudder and put some kind of prodigy in Kyiv. But there are big questions about well-functioning air defense. Fifty destroyed houses - shitty air defense work. Bad intelligence work. We have not been at war for a very long time, we simply do not have highly qualified specialists in the military fields. Add here an extremely delicate attitude to the infrastructure of western Ukraine - and here is the result. Now the most adequate answer is the complete destruction of all corridors for the supply of military equipment.

[volodimer]

This is very true:

so that we commit some kind of retaliatory useless atrocity, after which Europe would shudder and put some kind of prodigy in Kyiv

I myself still cannot decide whether it is good or bad that in 2014 Russia did not go to war. Financially, it was right. It shows how the ruble neighed over the dollar. In the military too. But many other moments have become against us.
In one of the branches, a colleague wrote that a decade and a half ago he said that "the Chechens and I still have to sit in the same trench, and now ... we and the Ukrainians will soon have to sit in the same trench again"
And he is absolutely right. This dispute between Russians and Russians, who, although they deny their "Russianness", but even in this denial they show their Russianness. But sooner or later, this dispute will be over. And together we will pay attention to the mongrels-instigators who pitted us. And the less stupidity will be committed on both sides, the faster the flame of enmity will go out. After all, together we need to clean out the rot that has grown both in Russia and Ukraine. (I don't usually post в and even more so the name of that country with a capital letter, but I respect those patriots who, like us, hoped for 30 years that Ukraine would be a prosperous country that aims at the happiness of its citizens. And we got what we are now fighting with)

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Antonina Ignatenko

Yes, and, as the comrade above said, so that we commit some kind of useless atrocity in return,

Why the hell do something useless? You have to do something useful. Having demolished some kind of Rada in Kyiv.

[Vlad1097]

They inflict such strikes because Russia does not have hundreds and thousands of strike drones such as Forpost and Inohodtsev, which monitor the entire border with Ukraine day and night and immediately destroy the detected positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Third district]

Quote: carstorm 11

The air defense worked great. In Kursk, everything was shot down. Here one flew. Think about what is the purpose of such actions.

Did one fly? Was she the one who destroyed 11 apartment buildings?

[Dilettante grandfather]

There is 150% protection. Eliminate the possibility of supplying weapons. Physically. We have 777 people who are engaged in SVO. The army is much larger. If, as we are constantly told from every flat iron, the West is waging war against us, then we should not be foolish with western Ukraine. We must strike, and strike decisively. In the absence of ammunition, no MLRS, no XNUMX, and other systems will be able to work on our territory.

[NSV]

We are waiting .... we are still waiting ... strikes on decision-making centers ... encirclement of Kharkov ....

[Nexcom]

Well, if even now ours do not answer as promised, it will generally be .....

[AlexVas44]

Rather, it will not happen at all, as before there was nothing for it.

[North Caucasus]

Well, if even now ours do not answer as promised, it will generally be .....

Promising to marry or repay a debt does not mean that it will be so! A promise for a promise! It seems that we also did not impose sanctions against anyone, and we did not declare war on anyone. So, purely domestic disassembly of business entities!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: NSV

We are waiting .... we are still waiting ... strikes on decision-making centers ..

In the foreseeable future, will we wait ...?

[carstorm 11]

They want to pull us back to Kharkov. That's the point of this schizophrenic hit attempt. They already did this with Donetsk not so long ago.

[aglet]

"This is the point of this schizophrenic attempt to strike. They already did this with Donetsk not so long ago"
This is not an attempt at a blow, this is quite a full-fledged blow. and with Donetsk they still do what they want, and when they want

[carstorm 11]

From the strike on two cities, one ammunition flew. Finish the fucking circus. Increasing the intensity of blows in an attempt to switch attention to another direction.

[aglet]

"From a strike on two cities, one ammunition flew"
does it mean that half of the ammunition in one city could damage 50 houses, 5 of them were completely destroyed, kill 2 people, injure three more? and if we consider that this was announced by the authorities, then the numbers are probably different. I see the circus in the actions and inactions of the Russian military commanders - the supreme commander in chief, the minister of defense, the chief of the general staff. well, maybe I forgot someone, so you remind me

[carstorm 11]

Well, look. Video a lot. Inaction? In the fifth month of the war, it would be time to understand that it is at least going on. And that the Ukrainians will hit the cities exactly as much as they have the ability and desire to do it. And the only way to stop it is to win it. During this time, these blows are several. But this is the first in residential buildings in a big city. And the realization of the fact that the likelihood of shelling of border settlements is obvious can reach people. What do you want? What action? What do you need to voice if everything is open and in plain sight? What needs to be done so that people like you stop suffering forever?

[aglet]

"What needs to be done so that people like you stop suffering forever?"
venerable, I do not suffer at all, but I just gave you the facts. it is you and people like you who are suffering here, trying to justify all the actions and inactions of the authorities

[carstorm 11]

I am a mon cherie cynic. And I take it easy. As well as to yubymi losses. And the fact that you only answer this, I had no doubt. You same engraving about power tryndet. Any specific suggestions?

[aglet]

"And the fact that you only answer this, I had no doubt."
the stump is clear, the only coherent sentence to which one can at least somehow answer. not answer the same set of letters
"And the realization of the fact that the likelihood of shelling of border settlements is obvious can reach people. What do you want? What actions? What do you need to voice if everything is open and in plain sight?"
Any specific suggestions?

[aglet]

"In the fifth month of the war, it would be time to understand that it is at least going on. And that the Ukrainians will hit the cities exactly as much as they have the ability and desire to do it."
I don’t know this, you made a mistake with the address here. you write to Putin, he, in my opinion, is still not in the know

[carstorm 11]

Everyone is aware. Everybody knows. So I repeat - any suggestions?

[aglet]

"So I repeat, are there any offers?"
there is. stop pretending that we are at war, and fight like an adult.
"Everyone knows. Everyone knows."
did Putin answer you? It means that the process is important to him, not the result. what are your suggestions? Or are we just asking questions?

[carstorm 11]

Ah, got it. Shooter fan.
I have? Local only. But I think analysts have also issued them a long time ago. There are enough smart people in the Moscow Region and with a lot of experience.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: carstorm 11

There are enough smart people in the Moscow Region and with a lot of experience.

We have already seen this on the march to Kyiv and the submarine cruiser Moskva.

[carstorm 11]

What did they see? Mistakes? Failures? What happens without them? The strength of any system is its ability to fix and rebuild them.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: carstorm 11

What did they see? Mistakes? Failures? What happens without them? The strength of any system is its ability to fix and rebuild them.

So all the way through, rebuilt on the Serpentine, and still hoisted Thor to cover the bare fifth point on the super patrol ships. And yes, once again they promised to work on drones in three shifts. Promises are very good at fighting. Is not it?

[carstorm 11]

On tori not to me. For shock drones, do you have another way? The plant started working in November, if anything. A lot of shifts need staff. And good. Got it and go ahead. The error is being corrected. Here it is generally easy for couch theorists to betray everything to criticism. 98 percent of the truth or the term served or even passed by but criticize from the heart. Any chain reveals flaws and you either fix them or lose. So far, we have corrected our history.

[DenVB]

Quote: carstorm 11

What needs to be done so that people like you stop suffering forever?

It is necessary to end the NWO and start a war with Ukraine.

[AUL]

Dmitry, do you consider the rest of the members of the forum to be complete DBs?

Preliminary information at the moment: there is partial destruction of 11 apartment buildings along the streets of Mayakovsky, Michurin, Chumichov, Popov and Pavlov. And also at least 39 private residential buildings along Mayakovsky, Popov, Pavlov streets were partially destroyed, of which 5 were completely

You will still argue that this is "One ammunition flew out of a strike on two cities."? Hold back a little your official zeal, do not disgrace yourself!

[carstorm 11]

Why such thoughts? Can you rate this video?
https://t.me/new_militarycolumnist/86502
My opinion is that there was not a cassette warhead, but a high-explosive one. Hence the consequences. And when you read the report, understand one thing. There, even broken glass and torn frames are included. This data is given to eliminate the consequences. There are hundreds of photos and videos of damage there. Evaluate the consequences yourself and do not try to shame me.

[faiver]

the earth rest in peace .....

[rotmistr60]

??? We waited. From individual strikes by helicopters, UAVs, mortar attacks to a massive attack by the Uragan MLRS. The feeling of impunity completely untied the hands of the Kyiv regime. If every blow on our territory was followed by a stronger blow (without looking back to the West) on their cities and not only on military facilities, but also on administrative, transport infrastructure, bridges, overpasses ..., then I’m sure that before shooting at side of Russian territory would have thought five times. Our excessive loyalty brings only the opposite results.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: rotmistr60

Our excessive loyalty brings only the opposite results.

Impunity corrupts

[Fedor Sokolov]

Impunity breeds permissiveness!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Fyodor Sokolov

Impunity breeds permissiveness!

Well, it's practically the same

[Grits]

Quote: Fyodor Sokolov

Impunity breeds permissiveness!

It's just another "goodwill gesture"

[North Caucasus]

??? We waited. From individual strikes by helicopters, UAVs, mortar attacks to a massive attack by the Uragan MLRS. The feeling of impunity completely untied the hands of the Kyiv regime. If every blow on our territory was followed by a stronger blow (without looking back to the West) on their cities and not only on military facilities, but also on administrative, transport infrastructure, bridges, overpasses ..., then I’m sure that before shooting at side of Russian territory would have thought five times. Our excessive loyalty brings only the opposite results.

We recall the experience of Dresden and Nagasaki. Who accuses the US of inhumanity? But Germany and Japan are bad friends with the USA!

[NNikolaich]

When we hear on TV about another act of goodwill, each time the country freezes in horror: something will happen again ...
Give someone a blunt head already, so that they stop talking about acts of goodwill!

[Antonina Ignatenko]

If every blow to our territory was followed by a stronger blow (without looking back to the West) on their cities

Evona like trolls excited! They don't even try to maintain a semblance of common sense. They pretend that they do not know who portrays the authorities in Ukraine. Yes, these dolls - the worse, the better. They just provoke us to unmotivated cruelty. They do not care about the country and the people. Or do you not understand it yet?

[sgrabik]

Such actions need to be monitored, controlled by our borderlands, how can this be allowed, it is clear that the Americans supply dill with intelligence from satellites, but what about our intelligence, where are the satellites, where are the UAVs ???

[Sergey3]

And what's the point? Air defense is not capable of intercepting all Uragan MLRS missiles if several packs of them are fired in one gulp. I would not be surprised if it was not a Hurricane, but imported systems.

[O. Bender]

Do you agree about imports, himars? I think they will soon install the fragments, but will they say .....

[North Caucasus]

Yes, no air defense is needed here. Here we need means of counter-battery combat. Tracking and suppression in real time. Nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons! These are modern weapons systems, not nuclear weapons. Satellites must track, drones. Do we have this? Attack drones must hang. Do we have them? Just fired a volley, immediately flew. Do the columns move at night? No sound bearing from a drone? Spacecraft explore the composition of planets at a distance, but we can not determine the concentration of metal, gunpowder and exhaust gases? Well, what kind of nonsense?! Acoustic waves (from motors) and radiation from cellular and radio communications cannot be determined either? Even in the Second World War there were means to determine by sound. Solzhenitsyn even served there. What, so degraded technology?

[Gardamir]

What, so degraded technology?

not technique, generals

[Antonina Ignatenko]

Ordinary specialists also never received proper practice. Everyone served very relaxed. But some of the generals should, of course, be fired, and some should be shot.

[Serafim]

Nah .... The most powerful weapon is treason, betrayal at the level of the country's leadership and smaller ones. Here's where to work. And much cheaper than putting the industry on a war footing.

[Repellent]

Quote from Serafim

betrayal at the level of leadership of the country and smaller

And now the impudent svezhereg has gone!

Just hatched, and already teaches "where to work" ... a mess, IMHO

[bondrostov]

Yes, you, too, have been here for 10 years. And except for change, current things cannot be explained.

[Repellent]

Quote: bondrostov

Yes, you, too, have been here for 10 years

I've been here since 14. And by the way, we are "acquainted"

Quote: bondrostov

And except for treason, current things cannot be explained

Well, you've always been somewhat, ahem, primitive

[bondrostov]

Perhaps familiar. Nick is familiar with you. Only lychek why not. New nickname? Well, maybe I'm primitive. Yes, only the facts indicate that all these multi-move leads, to put it mildly, to bad consequences.

[Repellent]

Quote: bondrostov

the facts show that all these multi-move leads, to put it mildly, to bad consequences

Everything is just beginning yet, it is too early to talk about the consequences.

Shelling of cities - yes, this is a problem, it must be solved. And I think it will be solved.

[Kuzyakin15]

Repellent:
Yes, you are also not a giant of thought.
Not a single sensible comet, except for sticking labels.
Yes, and under the old Nicks did not shine with the depth of thought and analysis.

[Repellent]

Quote: Kuzyakin15

you are not a giant of thought either

In the horse-text of this site, it is rather a compliment: the so-called "Giant of Thought" is a local plus, from the old ones.

Quote: Kuzyakin15

Not a single sensible comet, except for sticking labels

Not everyone thinks so, fortunately ... I repeat: "Kuzyakin", your opinion is insignificant for me

[AlexVas44]

But our satellites are above all, further than all!!!

[Seryoga64]

Quote: sgrabik

, where is the UAV ???

You can’t hang UAVs along the entire perimeter of the border

[Dude]

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: sgrabik

, where is the UAV ???

You can’t hang UAVs along the entire perimeter of the border

Really?
It's strange, but for some reason NATO members succeed! Take a look at the Flyradar, for fun, see how many reconnaissance UAVs (and manned reconnaissance aircraft) along our borders around the clock wandering around?
Maybe that's why we can't do it, what we have, elementary no machines of this class?

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Dude

It's strange, but for some reason NATO members succeed!

Because they have many more of them. And here they mostly hang over the Donbass

[aglet]

"Because they have many times more"
what are we talking about

[Seryoga64]

Quote: aglet

what are we talking about

They started talking about the need to cover the entire border of the UAV

[Dude]

Quote: Seryoga64

Quote: Dude

It's strange, but for some reason NATO members succeed!

Because they have many more of them. And here they mostly hang over the Donbass

Not just “many times more” than ours, we don’t have UAVs of such a class as Triton or Global Hawk at all.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Dude

we don’t have UAVs of such a class as Triton or Global Hawk at all.

And that too

[NNikolaich]

As I understand it, we don’t have a single AWACS aircraft in the NWO zone? And even in the vicinity does not fly?
Are they not needed at all? Or do we not have enough?
If not enough, then why not produced?
There are not enough aircraft factories?
I would like to hear the opinion of the experts

[Whowhy]

In principle, it is possible to "hang" airships with early warning locators and even anti-missile batteries ....

[Seryoga64]

Quote: whowhy

In principle, it is possible to "hang" airships with early warning locators and even anti-missile batteries ....

Do we have them?

[Whowhy]

Separately....

[Seryoga64]

Quote: whowhy

Separately....

What separately???
A separate airship, a separate locator, a separate anti-missile battery?

[bondrostov]

Separately, buy brains for many members of the forum! Airships, locators.... A branch of the madhouse... Mobilization must be announced. And fight, not play

[Vlad1097]

Hang - there would be a desire.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: sgrabik

but what about our intelligence, where are the same satellites, where are the UAVs ???

Our UAVs and satellites have been transformed into loot on the accounts of our capitalists. In yachts, villas, mansions, apartments in London and New York. Do you want Rogozin to sing a song instead of a companion?

[Dude]

Do you want Rogozin to sing a song for you instead of a companion?

No, better, let him jump on the trampoline. Although, no, it’s not necessary - it’s a pity for the trampoline!

[carstorm 11]

Well, that day has come ... Hurricane? They had them up to this point. So it's very doubtful. Today a serious Rubicon has been crossed by 404. And they decided to do this for very serious reasons. If the air defense had not worked out, there would have been hundreds of victims. Why do they need it? After all, a no brainer that the answer will be very serious. And the only reason is to force us to switch to Kharkiv.

[Flooding]

Quote: carstorm 11

Why do they need it? After all, a no brainer that the answer will be very serious. And the only reason is to force us to switch to Kharkiv.

I agree with the train of thought.
But rather - to stretch the front to the Sumy region.
You are right.
To divert Russian forces and stop the rout in the Donbass.

[carstorm 11]

Well, this too. One will still pull the other. It can even be simplified. North. And diverted from the south.

[aglet]

"To divert Russian forces and stop the rout in the Donbass."
it is very far from destruction. very

[Flooding]

Quote: aglet

it is very far from destruction. very

write three times "very"
the essence of this will not change
choose a different word for what is happening

[aglet]

"the essence of this will not change"
venerable, it's my business, how many times what to write, the meaning does not change from this. or do you have some secret information about the grandiose successes near Donetsk? No? me too

[Flooding]

Quote: aglet

venerable, it's my business, how many times what to write

certainly
and when a commentator writes "the defeat is still far away", I understand what he means.
but when I read "to defeat is very far. very", it makes no sense to puzzle over what was meant

Quote: Flood

choose a different word for what is happening

instead of the word "destruction"
I guess you understood this phrase differently

[aglet]

"but when I read "to defeat is very far away. very", there is no point in puzzling over what was meant"
I am glad that you understand that the defeat is very far, very

[Flooding]

quite the opposite
"far away" is a relative term.
and "very, very" smears a layer of logic in space and time until it is completely lost
therefore makes no sense

[DenVB]

Quote: Flood

But rather - to stretch the front to the Sumy region.

The Sumy region is an ideal place to strike at the rear of the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and at the same time encircle Kharkov. Actually, it should have been done back in March.

[Flooding]

Quote: DenVB

The Sumy region is an ideal place to strike at the rear of the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and at the same time encircle Kharkov.

In the presence of forces and means.

If, on the other hand, there are no excess military forces available for new hundreds of kilometers of the front, then this will mean only one thing - the withdrawal of the necessary forces from other directions and the leveling of fire superiority in decisive sectors.

Which, among other things, will allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to return to the March tactics of bites on the territory poorly controlled by the Russian Armed Forces.

[DenVB]

Quote: Flood

in the presence of forces and means

It's true. You can't get back what you've lost. It's time to start collecting new ones. And preferably faster. Time does not work for us.

[aglet]

"In the presence of forces and means."
who prevents the red army from advancing from Donetsk? the shortest communications passing through friendly territory, the possibility of at least some kind of reconnaissance from the DPR, if one does not have one, the cessation of shelling of Donetsk, if this is really necessary. but no, normal heroes always go around. via Kharkov to Donetsk is closer than via Donetsk, and not so expensive

[Flooding]

Quote: aglet

via Kharkov to Donetsk is closer than via Donetsk, and not so expensive

Quote: DenVB

Sumy region

[aglet]

"Sumy region"
this is even further, but, in principle, it is possible through Kyiv, as we immediately planned

[DenVB]

Quote: aglet

who prevents the red army from advancing from Donetsk?

From Stalingrad, you probably wanted to say? What is the Red Army?

Quote: aglet

via Kharkov to Donetsk is closer than via Donetsk, and not so expensive

I did not understand anything. Through Sumy to Donetsk further than through Donetsk. But not so costly.

Quote: aglet

normal heroes always go around

Well, actually yes. These are the basics of military science. They fight headlong into the fortified defense, painfully and persistently, only the heroes are alternatively gifted.

[aglet]

"From Stalingrad, you probably wanted to say? Which Red Army?"
do not pretend to be alternatively gifted, you understand everything perfectly. but I can help a little, why go to Donetsk through sums, if it’s closer through Rostov? just don’t talk about fortified areas, no one has seen them yet, just like 20 meter dungeons on Azov

[DenVB]

Quote: aglet

Why go to Donetsk through Sumy, if Rostov is closer?

I don't know why go to Donetsk. Donetsk has long been ours.

Quote: aglet

just don’t talk about fortified areas, no one has seen them yet

You can go to the front and have a look.

[aglet]

"You can go to the front, have a look."
these excuses of yours, you can do it yourself, you yourself prove that there is something besides knee-deep curved grooves, if it were something more serious, they would have been playing for days on all channels and sites. as in Mariupol, underground fortifications, 20 meters deep, fortresses and pillboxes screamed,
but it turned out - the usual factory technological channels

[DenVB]

Quote: aglet

you can do these excuses yourself, you yourself prove that there is something besides knee-deep curved grooves

The level of reasoning is clear.

[aglet]

"The level of reasoning is clear"
is that your argument? you write from the front, from the trench?

[DenVB]

Quote: aglet

you write from the front, from the trench?

Approximately from the same front as you.

[aglet]

"Donetsk has long been ours."
If you don't want to go to Donetsk, go to Avdiivka. but in general, this is one of the local strategists, who suggested going to the rear of the Donetsk group through Lisichansk, to the same Avdiivka

[bondrostov]

The reason is different. So that we hit the infrastructure. And raise a howl. We need mobilization. Otherwise we will lose

[North Caucasus]

And how many Rubicons have already been ?! It was a good initial plan. Reach Kyiv and break the outskirts in half with a wedge. Then hit the fortified areas in the rear. But then they outplayed and decided to take the fortifications head-on! And so there would be a threat of encirclement and cutting off supplies. The outskirts would be forced to defend the coast, Kyiv and Donbass. Good spray! But we gave them the opportunity to concentrate forces in the Donbass. Intentionally delaying the operation? What for? Capitalism and the generals decided to make money like that? Have you decided to involve our partners deeper? Or was this situation imposed on us? Who? Or is it the result of army optimization? Reality showed that the optimization was not optimal, and by the end of the year, Shoigu decided to create 12 more military units. Is there a possibility of territory, equipment, uniforms and command staff for these 12 units? Schools seem to have been cut too! Where did Zin's personnel and materiel come from?

[aglet]

"the only reason is to force us to switch to Kharkiv"
why are you so jammed in Kharkov? Now the main goal should be to take Avdiivka and Marinka in order to at least exclude mortars from the shelling of Donetsk

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: carstorm 11

And the only reason is to force us to switch to Kharkiv.

What the hell Kharkov? It is important for them to shake the people in Russia and raise the morale of their people. With which they successfully coped. And such filthy guards as you only play into the hands of these rotten creatures.

[Repellent]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Quote: carstorm 11

And the only reason is to force us to switch to Kharkiv.

What the hell Kharkov?

Usual, Makar, Kharkiv. Donbass has crumbled, it is important for them now to divert the forces of the Russian Federation from there for at least something ...

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

It is important for them to shake the people in Russia and raise the morale of their people. What did they successfully do?

Well, they probably raised the "spirit of their people", yes. And as for "rocking" - yes, so far only you and a dozen or two local oppositionists, who are ready to hysteria for any reason ...

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

nasty guards like you are only playing into the hands of these rotten creatures

Dude, haven't been to the bath for a long time? Hold the tongue, otherwise it will become a little shorter

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Repellent

Dude, haven't been to the bath for a long time? Hold the tongue, otherwise it will become a little shorter

Go getcha guard, you're not in first.

Quote: Repellent

. And as for "rocking" - yes, so far only you and a dozen or two local oppositionists, who are ready to hysteria for any reason ...

Down and Out trouble started. This is not the last day of the special operation.

[Repellent]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Go getcha guard, you're not the first

Well, your point is clear... but -

Quote: Anecdote

Masochist: Well, cut me, cut... burn me, burn!
Sadist: But no ... no boo-oo-oooo!

Here I am. Don't boo-oo-oooo... you'll sleep yourself, the moderators are vigilant here.

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Quote: Repellent

And as for "rocking" - yes, so far only you and a dozen or two local oppositionists, who are ready to hysteria for any reason ...

Down and Out trouble started. This is not the last day of the special operation

Fuck with local opps. You have read, you understand, about "the transformation of the imperialist into a civil one" and now they are stirring up ... you will also fly, like everyone else. Or are you thinking of sitting in the cellar?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Repellent

Fuck with local opps.

And you don't give a shit about yourself? Or do you think the imperialist in the rear to sit out? And I'd rather die in civilian life clutching your throat than killing people fooled by the same guards from the other side.

[Repellent]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

I'd rather die in civilian life clutching your throat than killing people fooled by the same guards from the other side

Here you go. That is, I was not mistaken with the diagnosis:

the transformation of the modern imperialist war into a civil war is the only correct proletarian slogan

Go ahead. Turn. I'll watch it with interest

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Repellent

Here you go. That is, I was not mistaken with the diagnosis:

You were wrong about everything. What can go wrong and what can't.

Quote: Repellent

Go ahead. Turn. I'll watch it with interest

This does not work at all as they write in the rotten manuals of the guards.

[Repellent]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

as they say in the rotten training manuals of guards

That's better for you to know. Room Oppositionist

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

You were wrong about everything. What can go wrong and what can not

There is no tremor of faith. Prove, if there is enough darkness ...

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Repellent

There is no tremor of faith. Prove that there is enough darkness

I won't waste my time on a lumpen guard.

Quote: Repellent

That's better for you to know. Room Oppositionist

Of course better. Because I'm smarter than you.

[Repellent]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

I won't waste my time on a lumpen security guard

Well, hamlo is hamlo. What a nice start:

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

It is important for them to shake the people in Russia and raise the morale of their people. What did they successfully do?

Direct song...

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

I'm smarter than you

Buckwheat porridge praises itself (c)

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Repellent

Buckwheat porridge praises itself (c)

You won't praise yourself, no one will praise you. And why is there to be shy, to be modest, to be modest. After all, this is a fact.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Repellent

Well, hamlo is hamlo.

Nothing hits the opponent's pride like the bitter truth.

[Vlad1097]

Who and what fell in your Donbas 24 brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have not yet been defeated 4 months later they still have a high combat capability to Ukraine Lease Liz Biden signed and allocated funds in the amount of 40 billion greenbacks for weapons preparation of cannon fodder from conscripts a few weeks ago to the level of soldiers in Ukraine, they continue actively both by local instructors and NATO instructors, everything suggests that active hostilities will continue for a very long time.

[Repellent]

Quote: Vlad1097

Who and what fell on you in the Donbass

So far, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have very cheerfully faded from Lisichansk. Next - let's see what happens.

And yes. Master the punctuation marks, otherwise it is impossible to read ...

[Tired]

That is, the Ukrainian army is already hitting Russian cities with "Hurricanes", but the promised "attacks on decision-making centers" are still missing. The entire political and military elite of Ukraine should have been destroyed long ago, and not walk around Kyiv as if it were a peaceful boulevard.

[carstorm 11]

Exactly. Nuclear strikes on Kuev. After all, at a depth of under a hundred meters to their ZKP than to get it? So you see these beats?

[Chronos]

Quote: carstorm 11

Exactly. Nuclear strikes on Kuev. After all, at a depth of under a hundred meters to their ZKP than to get it? So you see these beats?

Government buildings are used for their intended purpose. Rada meetings are held, the clown saws his drug addict videos in his office. If this is demolished, it will be a blow for the country's telecommuting.

[Andrey VOV]

Yes, these clowns do not solve anything, well, is it really incomprehensible, well, let's beat them, others will listen to the British

[carstorm 11]

Do you need governing bodies or a bunch of deputies are not happy???

[sniperino]

Quote: Chronos

If this is demolished, it will be a blow for the country's telecommuting.

Are you sure they will show it on TV? It turns out that at that time a charity matinee for orphans was held in Zely's office, and all of them died. And miraculously the surviving junkie will continue to rivet videos.

[Chronos]

Quote: sniperino

Quote: Chronos

If this is demolished, it will be a blow for the country's telecommuting.

Are you sure they will show it on TV? It turns out that at that time a charity matinee for orphans was held in Zely's office, and all of them died. And miraculously the surviving junkie will continue to rivet videos.

Don't care how they present it. The people of Kiev will know that they have bombed the government quarter, rockets are hitting their city, which means there is no victory. And this is the mood in the capital. The clown is afraid of this as well.

[sniperino]

Quote: Chronos

And this is the mood in the capital.

This will be the mood of compassion for the innocently killed children and hatred for their killers, or rather, for the one who sent them to this. And this, as you understand, will not be Zelensky.

Quote: Chronos

The clown is afraid of this as well.

He is only afraid of losing the confidence of the US ambassador, and he hardly ever seriously thought about the citizens of Ukraine.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: sniperino

and about the citizens of Ukraine, hardly ever thought seriously.

Just like you about the Russians with their rotten guards.

[sniperino]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Quote: sniperino

and about the citizens of Ukraine, hardly ever thought seriously.

Just like you about the Russians with their rotten guards.

Are you a student of the Tatras, or what? Everywhere you sculpt guards, as she is the enemies of the communists. It was about the information and psychological effectiveness of a strike on government buildings in Kyiv, and here he stuck "guardianism".

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: sniperino

It was about the information and psychological effectiveness of a strike on government buildings in Kyiv, and here he stuck "guardianism".

You don't talk teeth to us. The fact that you are a guardian has long been clear. It is not clear only one thing out of stupidity or for money.

[sniperino]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

You don't talk teeth to us. The fact that you are a guardian has long been clear. It is not clear only one thing out of stupidity or for money.

Who is "us"? Fuckers? With you, such questions do not arise at all: it is clear that the money is stupid.

[Chronos]

Quote: sniperino

Quote: Chronos

And this is the mood in the capital.

This will be the mood of compassion for the innocently killed children and hatred for their killers, or rather, for the one who sent them to this. And this, as you understand, will not be Zelensky.

Quote: Chronos

The clown is afraid of this as well.

He is only afraid of losing the confidence of the US ambassador, and he hardly ever seriously thought about the citizens of Ukraine.

These will be sentiments that there is a war in Kyiv, and not a party. They have a war in the city. This is how the fatigue of the population from the war is formed, including for this dill is beaten in Belgorod. By causing population fatigue, NATO broke Yugoslavia. Here everyone praises Stalin, and the mustachioed one always said that one must learn from the enemy.

[sniperino]

Quote: Chronos

By causing population fatigue, NATO broke Yugoslavia.

NATO launched 3 cruise missiles and dropped about 80 tons of bombs, including cluster and depleted uranium bombs, with a total weight of 15 tons. Approximately died there. 1700 people, incl. 400 children. Do you really want us to do the same?

[Chronos]

Quote: sniperino

Quote: Chronos

By causing population fatigue, NATO broke Yugoslavia.

NATO launched 3 cruise missiles and dropped about 80 tons of bombs, including cluster and depleted uranium bombs, with a total weight of 15 tons. Approximately died there. 1700 people, incl. 400 children. Do you really want us to do the same?

I don't know anymore, to be honest. If you look at ukrosotsseti, then there are probably pants full of joy. We are all not people for them, orcs. But if we are all enemies for them, then they are also for us? And if the enemy does not surrender?

[sniperino]

Quote: Chronos

If you look at ukrosotsseti, then there are definitely pants full of joy.

Utyrks rejoicing at this event can also be found here.

Quote: Chronos

But if we are all enemies for them, then they are also for us?

We are not enemies for everyone, and not all are enemies for us. 74%, if I'm not mistaken, of Ukrainians voted not so much for Zelensky as against the war in Donbass. Most people are ordinary people who do not care about power and do not care about citizenship, as long as they live calmly and satisfyingly. But there are also those who are waiting for our soldiers as liberators. If the General Staff believes that the strategy of minimizing losses among their own and among civilians should be maintained, then I would not argue with this.

[bondrostov]

It was the 5th month of the war. The Soviet Union continued to supply metal to the German Empire in fulfillment of its obligations. Food (gas!) Everything you need to know about this war...

[Dude]

Quote: sniperino

Quote: Chronos

If this is demolished, it will be a blow for the country's telecommuting.

Are you sure they will show it on TV? It turns out that at that time a charity matinee for orphans was held in Zely's office, and all of them died. And miraculously the surviving junkie will continue to rivet videos.

And what, now do not fight at all? If we keep looking back at what bloggers will write about us and what the West will think of us, we will never win this war.

[sniperino]

Quote: Dude

If we keep looking back at what bloggers will write about us and what the West will think of us...

Where did you see this look? In my objection to the effectiveness of a strike on the center of Kyiv in a country of televised attacks?
Television scripts for such strikes, I believe, have been prepared for a long time, and the best shots of the Western media are waiting at the ready at a safe distance. It will be unbearable - they themselves will be beaten by the Rada or the office, but they will show the world another "Bucha" within the cultural framework of the "cancellation of the Russian", and Zelensky and other necessary people, "necessaries", as they said in one Soviet movie, will miraculously survive. It would be nice to hit the US embassy, ​​where decisions are made at least on a significant level. And government buildings in Kyiv, in relation to events at the fronts, have the function of places to resolve issues of embezzlement of the budget, "land lease" and drank babosiks. We are not harmed by this. Zelya in armor will flash in the frames in the ruins among the mountains of corpses and you won’t have to travel far.
What is the prospect of teleperemogi here? And how can one judge the possible reaction of the mass media audience without "looking back" at their avant-garde - the Western media?

[kartalovkolya]

Again we will hear the next "mantras" about the fraternal people, instead of "cleaning up" wasp nests in Kyiv!

[Sergey39]

Looks like Hoclopithecus, crossed, all lines? What will the government answer?

[Thrifty]

Sergey 39-authority will answer with indistinct mooing and, as always, collateralism ....

[carstorm 11]

They answered with the liberated Luhansk region.

[aglet]

"They answered with the liberated Luhansk region"
Can you post the map of the liberated one? otherwise the release micro-successes on the database maps are poorly readable. apparently, the scale is small

[aglet]

"I.e. taking the last arvp city of the entire region is micro?)"
what - what city? even if they took it, the Luhansk region is not the end of the war, and it is not even within its borders yet. in the Donetsk sector, everything is much more complicated, there are more up to the borders than in Lugansk, and, as it recently turned out, they don’t even know how to fight. if this name means anything to you

[carstorm 11]

I kind of said clearly-Lugansk. Where and in what place did you see about the end of the war? Why do I need this stream of consciousness if I clearly said about a specific achievement?

[aglet]

"if I clearly said about a specific achievement?"
speaking clearly, the Luhansk region has not yet been liberated

[Chronos]

This is their bestial answer for Lisichansk. They handed over the Luhansk region, hit in retaliation on the residential areas of Kursk and Belgorod. If there is no strike on Kyiv, then I don't know. They won't understand otherwise. Just wipe out the government quarter.

[krex pax]

Well, isn't it time to increase the grouping of troops in the north of Ukraine and push the Nazis away from our borders. After this shelling, something obviously needs to be changed with the nature of the special operation. These brutes won't stop

[Vlad1097]

Everyone has been talking about this for more than one month - but our leadership and the General Staff do not care about it, they live there in their little world.

[Sergey3]

Well, what, and how, where is the development of decision-making centers? It's time to extinguish the green, but ours will never do this, because they are afraid for their skins ...

[your vsr 66-67]

How many houses were destroyed and three dead and four wounded? Moreover, at night! I do not believe! As always! When will the truth be told?

[german zaj]

Broken windows are also damage or a cracked roof. So far, there was a photo of one funnel in the private sector, so it’s quite real.

[Eug]

I had such a question - were these Hurricanes for sure? Their range - according to info on the network - 36 km. From Belgorod to the border - about 40 plus or minus a couple of kilometers ....

[Yves762]

Ukraine had Tornadoes, which should have had enough range. They also had their own MLRS "Alder", also with a database, but how many of them were / remained unclear, as with the "Neptunes" (RCP).
So it could not have been Hurricanes or HIMARS.

[den3080]

Quote: Eug

I had such a question - were these Hurricanes for sure? Their range - according to info on the network - 36 km. From Belgorod to the border - about 40 plus or minus a couple of kilometers ....

I was not too lazy, measured the distance in Google.
Chumichev / Mayakovsky streets, this is so in the east of Belogorod, even beyond the center.
So from there to the Ukrainian territory 33 km in a straight line, in one place.
Well, in general, it was necessary for Hurricane to go almost directly to the border and shoot.
Questions arise, yes, to MO. And all - with abundant inclusions, consisting of obscene words.

[NSV]

This is practically the center. A kilometer to the central square, the regional administration ...

[Egg]

This is up to Belgorod, and Kursk is even further away, in Kursk all missiles were shot down, in Belgorod 2 out of 3 were shot down

[saved]

Maybe it's enough to turn the cheeks already ??? We are waiting for something to fall straight in the nose.

[Yves762]

To the question of the "plan" according to which "everything is going" ...

[Vlad1097]

The first phase burned out; the second phase closed; I wonder what Shoigu will say in his reports about the third phase - the phase was completed, but in reality the phase will be lost.

[ramzay21]

Are these already red lines or not yet?

[impostor]

Judging by the panic on the forum, these lines look like brown. Tomorrow Lviv will burn and something else on the Polish-Ukro border.

[AUL]

Quote: impostor

Tomorrow Lviv will burn and something else on the Polish-Ukro border.

Are you responsible for your words?

[impostor]

Plus or minus. It is not excluded the physical elimination of the clown, one of the curators because of the puddle. The answer will be clear. Panic must not be allowed, panic is one of the tasks of Saloreich

[AdAstra]

Obviously still a quarter red or less.

[iz odessy]

The toughening of the war, when it becomes long-term - the law thereof

[cat Rusich]

Is it time to hit the "decision-making centers" already ... or will they wait until they gasp in Moscow?

[Maxim G]

To everyone who is trying to find an excuse for the fact that shelling of the territory of the Russian Federation is not stopped, my advice is to move to the border area until the end of the NWO and broadcast from there.

[sniperino]

Quote: Maxim G

To everyone who is trying to find an excuse for the fact that shelling of the territory of the Russian Federation is not stopped, my advice is to move to the border area until the end of the NWO and broadcast from there.

And, accordingly, those who are dissatisfied with the pace of the SVO, rather write an application to the military registration and enlistment office for admission to contract service (closed until tomorrow). And not to Santa Claus to write about your needs here.

[Maxim G]

And what will be appointed commander of the NWO if you write a statement?

[sniperino]

Quote: Maxim G

And what will be appointed commander of the NWO if you write a statement?

If you have experience in commanding formations during successful operations of this kind, then there are chances. But the chance to personally speed up the pace of the operation remains at an extreme option.

[Maxim G]

Not the other way around?

[sniperino]

Quote: Maxim G

Not the other way around?

Do you think your direct involvement can only slow down the pace of the operation?

[Maxim G]

Looking at the quality.
But the arrival of uryakalok in the border area will definitely be useful.

[Cartalon]

And everything goes according to plan

[Heaven]

How much is left to wait before the moment when Ukraine will begin to supply long-range missiles?

[german zaj]

Yes, they already have them. Point y, though an old but quite a long-range complex.

[DenVB]

Quote from Heaven

How much is left to wait before the moment when Ukraine will begin to supply long-range missiles?

I think, at the latest, by the end of the year, Ukraine will have the opportunity to strike at Moscow.

[Yves762]

But now an attempt to create a buffer zone along the border will disrupt the offensive in the Donbass.

[Vlad1097]

No, if additional forces are attracted in general, the entire grouping in Ukraine needs to be increased by 4-5 times in order to actively advance and hold positions. But our geniuses in the General Staff still believe that the millionth group of Tarabarov and the Armed Forces of Ukraine of which the West pumps weapons and ammunition every day on the territory of 500000 square kilometers can be defeated and captured by 200000 personnel.

[Alexander Matrosov]

Quote from Heaven

How much is left to wait before the moment when Ukraine will begin to supply long-range missiles?

Couple of weeks.

[g_ae]

How is it with the search for decision-making points? Isn't it time yet?

[AdAstra]

So they haven’t found it yet, so they’re slowing down, or maybe they’re not looking at all.

[Antonina Ignatenko]

Why look for them? They are in Washington, in a pentagonal building.

[Blade3]

This is the Agony of the Kyiv regime.

They are not decision-making centers, but just zombified failure soldiers, and the Russian leadership knows this very well.

The real enemy needs the growth of discontent among the population of Russia, mobilization, declaration of war.

It all counts for one or two. no options

[Nafanya from the sofa]

The real enemy needs the growth of discontent among the population of Russia,

They win the information war, unlike the real one. Exchange scandal - no response from Russian authorities. Withdrawal of troops - statements like "chickens laugh". There is a war going on. Brutal and bloody. Not everything and not always works. But in general, Russia wins. So why hide individual failures. This is stupid and causes mistrust and discontent of people.

[Blade3]

There is no information war.

They are killed not by streams of information, but by bullets and shells.

The information war ends where the real war begins.

If the human brain is not able to analyze processes, then these are problems of the brain and not processes.

[Simple]

With the "Agony of the Kyiv authorities" - you got excited.

The purpose of this act, I think, is to interfere with the plan for the course of the operation.
But such attacks on Russian cities - I don’t understand why everyone is indignant.
For the Ukrainian Kyiv regime, this is a war.
For Russia, this is a special operation with all the ensuing restrictions.

[sniperino]

Quote from blade3

The information war ends where the real war begins.

The discovery draws on the Nobel Prize. Until now, they did not interfere with each other, and the information war only intensified with the start of the real one.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote from blade3

This is the Agony of the Kyiv regime.

It wasn't you who talked in 2014 that Ukraine would fall apart in a year?

[Blade3]

Local combat strategists are rattling around, housewives, I could only predict. No, not me

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote from blade3

No, not me

And the rhetoric is the same.

[Blade3]

Well, it happens that the majority have no rhetoric at all, only templates and slogans

[Sergio63]

So, we waited .... and now we'll see when these strikes on the CPR will nevertheless take place ???! And will they even...?

[TatarinSSSR]

Now Kanashenkov will come out to the camera, in a dejectedly cheerful voice will report about the next "49 struck nationalist command posts" in a day, and everyone will immediately forget about this nightmare. This is exactly what the General Staff thinks. He does not notice his mistakes and mistakes at all. But bravo talks numbers. According to which Ukraine should no longer just have military equipment left. And "control points", especially those who controlled someone in them.
Until those who from the very beginning planned the NMD and who now leads it in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are not removed, condemned by law for their mistakes, short-sightedness and miscalculations, and until they are replaced by smart, modern commanders, the NMD will be a mess and a threat to Russian cities .

[Blade3]

The Russian army liberated Lisichansk: okay, it will go, I approve.

The Kyiv regime, in agony, shelled the city: what a mess, to remove the entire leadership of the General Staff.

Bravo!

[TatarinSSSR]

Lisichansk and others. points are vacated by field commanders, soldiers, officers, pilots, tankers, artillerymen, signalmen, drivers, doctors, volunteers, etc. They perform the hardest work on the battlefield, risking their lives and health. And they do it perfectly! I am proud of them! What can not be said about those about whom I wrote above!

[The collective farm is voluntary.]

Here, not everyone understands sarcasm, be strong colleague.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

This sarcasm is kind of dumb.

[Vlad1097]

Excellent - it remains only to liberate at least 20000 more settlements and cities throughout Ukraine.

[aglet]

"Until those who from the very beginning planned the SVO and who now leads it in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are removed, convicted by law"
Yes, don’t worry so much, Putin doesn’t leave his people, at most, they will transfer them somewhere, without losing their salary. will sit in the next office pants

[iz odessy]

It is difficult to assess the depth of disinformation by general
state of Ukraine in which the military-political leadership of the Russian Federation lived on 24.02.22!
Someone must answer, must! Subjectively, this disinformation still "works". If changes and adjustments are visible with the military unit, then with moral and psychological suppression - a deep seat. Who, in the Kremlin and below, is still not clear on geographical pain points, the impact on which will a priori reduce the moral potential, and psychologically lead to an oppressed state? And to this Sergeevka Odessa region?

[Nafanya from the sofa]

How many more today will Lieutenant General Konashenkov "destroy headquarters, military installations and places of accumulation of enemy equipment"? How many planes will he shoot down and intercept enemy missiles? His briefings are more and more reminiscent of the speeches of a certain Don Sera from "It's Hard to Be a God" by Br. Strugatsky:

Don Sera turned purple and began to make lengthy and tongue-tied excuses, lying all the time

Why does the Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation believe that the citizens of the Russian Federation do not know how to use the Internet, and that they receive all the news via ORT?
When and from whom will we find out what measures our military is taking to prevent shelling of Russian cities and villages.
It's a shame!

[Kelwin]

Chet doesn't look like 9K57. If the photo is real (but still clearly blurred), then this is something more powerful in terms of power, three or four times like that ... 8 arrivals and 11 + 39 objects are also nonsense, they won’t tell the truth, of course, but it’s clear in general.

[TermNachTer]

"Hurricane" hits 30 km. Where were they shooting from? Or they didn’t shoot with the Hurricane.

[DenVB]

Quote: TermNachTER

"Hurricane" hits 30 km. Where were they shooting from? Or they didn’t shoot with the Hurricane.

It is not difficult to make a rocket for MLRS with an increased range. You just need to reduce the warhead and increase the propellant charge.

I'm not talking about the fact that they necessarily shot with the "Hurricane". Even most likely not "Hurricane". I’m just explaining that paper performance characteristics should not be taken as an indisputable truth.

[TermNachTer]

Are you good at this process? On rural MTS, disassemble, make changes to the design of the NURS, and assemble again. And where is the guarantee that it will not explode during disassembly or assembly? And yes, the information has already passed - they shot "Point"

[DenVB]

Quote: TermNachTER

On rural MTS, disassemble, make changes to the design of the NURS, and assemble again.

What is this nonsense?

[TermNachTer]

This is what you said. So far, no one has seen converted shells for the Uragan. But they saw not exploded, released in 1986.

[DenVB]

Quote: TermNachTER

This is what you said. So far, no one has seen converted shells for the Uragan.

Why remake them? Isn't it easier to make new ones?

[TermNachTer]

We return to the beginning of the conversation - you can’t do it in a rural MTS. A lot of things are needed. Taking into account the fact that the industry in Banderland has been purposefully ruined for the last 30 years, the probability is very low.

[DenVB]

Quote: TermNachTER

We return to the beginning of the conversation - you can’t do it in a rural MTS.

I don’t understand what the rural MTS has to do with it.

Quote: TermNachTER

Taking into account the fact that the industry in Banderland has been purposefully ruined for the last 30 years, the probability is very low.

Have you heard of Alder? Modernized missile "Smerch", in fact. Produced at the Artem plant in Kyiv. A few days ago, they finally hit him, and before that he worked quite calmly.

[TermNachTer]

I heard about Alder, but never saw it. Look at Wikipedia what the Artem plant did before, before 2014.

[DenVB]

Quote: TermNachTER

Look at Wikipedia what the Artem plant did before, before 2014.

See for yourself. Well, I have to explain everything to you.

[TermNachTer]

I don't have to look, I already know. They never did NURS. They tried to somehow make 80 - mm. - ended in nothing. They talked a lot about "Alder", but apart from commercials, they were not seen anywhere else.

[DenVB]

Quote: TermNachTER

They never did NURS. They tried to somehow make 80 - mm. - ended in nothing.

I don't know what the problem is. Palestinians make Qassams in general in cellars and garages. And some even reach Israel.

Quote: TermNachTER

They talked a lot about "Alder", but apart from commercials, they were not seen anywhere else.

"Neptunes" was also not seen anywhere, except for commercials. And yet, for some reason, the cruiser sank.

[TermNachTer]

What is made from drainpipes in the garage flies accordingly. Yes, there is no need to fly far and the warhead is funny. "Hurricane" shoots at 30 km. and warhead there be healthy. About “Moscow” is too early to talk. What the cruiser died from is not known, but from my point of view, of all possible versions, the hypothetical Neptune is in last place.

[DenVB]

Quote: TermNachTER

What is made from drainpipes in the garage flies accordingly.

And what is being done at the plant, even if not the most high-tech one, has a chance to fly where it is needed.

Quote: TermNachTER

What the cruiser died from is not known, but from my point of view, of all possible versions, the hypothetical Neptune is in last place.

And after all, too, everyone was sure that nothing like this could be in principle.

[TermNachTer]

I work at a factory that makes aircraft engines. Although I am not an engineer or a designer, but due to the specifics of the work, I have to delve into production. So, an average factory - the aviation theme will not pull, especially since more than one factory is involved in production.

[DenVB]

Quote: TermNachTER

So, a mediocre factory - the aviation theme will not pull

Not only aviation. Microelectronic - too.

[TermNachTer]

Z.Y. Regarding the "Moscow", I personally was not sure, because both on this forum and on others, competent comrades wrote that the ship was in very poor condition. It had to either be put into capital with modernization, or written off.

[Million]

The authorities will express strong protest and some concern....

[antivirus]

No one's yachts were drowned.
All is well.

[aszzz888]

We need to respond appropriately. Already got the Nazis specifically. All the same, we are at war with all of Europe and the Merikatos.

[Gardamir]

Shh! The Kremlin does not know about it.

[cniza]

APU struck MLRS "Hurricane" in Belgorod

There are no normal words, we harness something for a long time ...

[Sergio63]

The latest news ... it turns out that the Banderlogs tried to sharpen around Kursk .... NO, the guys from the General Staff urgently need an answer !!!!! To forever silence these mongrels in Kucha, Lemberg, Dnieper .... further down the list !!! IT'S TIME!

[Sebostyuan]

Tonight, air defense worked over Kursk too. According to preliminary data, all targets were shot down, there were no casualties on the ground and no destruction. "Hurricane" will not reach here.

[cmax]

Our operation "victory" after "victory" Drowned the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet (silence), moved away from the Kyiv, Sumy, Chernihiv, Kharkov regions - silence, burned a gas production platform in the Black Sea, the rest are next (supplying Crimea with gas -50%) - silence, the shelling of Donetsk continues, and now Belgorod - most likely, indistinct muttering will follow. And this is 4 months after the start of the operation. What will be interesting for 6-10 months, Moscow will be shelled or the Crimean bridge will be filled up. Viagra to them (management), to help.

[DenVB]

Quote: cmax

Moscow will be shelled

Russia will only laugh, watching dear moyshkvichs run along the freshly tiled streets and shout "What are we for ?!"

[IS-80_RVGK2]

I won't. Because there are the same people as everywhere else. And fuck people fucking like Papa Carlo for a penny. Or do you think there are entirely oligarchs involved in maintaining the infrastructure?

[DenVB]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

I won't. Because there are the same people as elsewhere.

Controversial issue.

Here, for example, not Moscow, but St. Petersburg. Just a few days ago, the TV just choked with delight, describing a show called "Scarlet Sails". The music is blaring, the girls are squealing, the reporters are reporting on a "grand celebration".

I looked at it and cursed. The war is going on, dozens of soldiers are dying every day, Donetsk is under daily shelling, and here such a cultural metropolitan b ... is demonstrated throughout the country. Are the people there the same as everywhere else, or not?

[Vladimir M]

Now Konashenkov will get into the TV and cheerfully tell about the downed dozens of aircraft, about the hit dozens of artillery firing positions and hundreds of areas where equipment is located. And then we will strike with a "gesture of good will" and finally we will finish them off with "101 concerns." Something is less and less clear what is happening and what are our goals in this operation.

[Lena Petrova]

We need to slow down the fun in Kyiv. De-energize the city - demolish all substations, TV towers, the government quarter, the National Bank, etc. Enough to fuss. Let them sit without light, heat, telephones, TV, metro, etc.

[Gardamir]

De-energize the city - demolish all substations, TV towers, the government quarter, the National Bank, etc.

I agree with you one hundred percent, but the question is, what about gas supplies to Ukraine?

[AdAstra]

I think everything is quite cheerful - they deliver.

[rusmor55]

We have climbed nowhere deeper, start fighting in a serious way. For electrical substations, for television and radio studios, for railway stations and bridges, etc. And then in Kyiv they walk around like in a resort, all communications work. Why be afraid of how the West will react, it will be necessary, they will draw it all themselves.

[Moneron]

and now dry, without emotions.
the sign "special operation" is clearly dilapidated. in reality, it has long escalated into a strange war. on the other hand, they are fighting in all seriousness. we are trying to portray knightly nobility. how Putin does not want to get involved in a full-scale war with the mobilization of the male population and the mobilization of industry!!!. even gas does not stop pumping through the adversary .... everything is just to justify - what kind of war? ... green, emboldened by impunity and Western support, like a skating rink, gradually and inevitably, drags Putin into a big war.
in February - March, having struck at full strength, they could have finished this Marlezon ballet long ago. and now the Ukrainian boy has grown a lot in 4 months and one army of personnel cannot cope with him.
well. our beloved president, now show your iron balls.
but for starters, for an accusatory PR campaign, the president should have come to Belgorod to bury the dead and inspect damaged buildings .... with powerful press coverage. !!! and no threats to the green .... let the banderlogs with the West quiet down, waiting for an answer. then Putin's hands will be untied.
so you can use this sad circumstance. you need to learn proper PR from the green.

[Blade3]

Didn't you fall asleep from your slogans while writing?

[Vyacheslav Dokuchaev]

Air defense failed, the aggressors were not destroyed ......

[Vlad1097]

Whoever pours something about the broken spirit and the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will run out of ammunition, the fact remains that they do not run out of ammunition, and the motivation to conduct hostilities at a very high level has not been observed for the fifth month, not a single brigade has been captured, but they have onnyh 24 has not yet been destroyed.

[Fedorovich]

Gentlemen, commentators, is it okay that you squeal in a purely Ukrainian style? Doesn't it dawn on you that this is the purpose of such attacks - to force us to act not according to plans, to rush, make mistakes and lose people in vain? Or is that exactly what you are looking for?

[Chronos]

Quote: Fedorovich

Gentlemen, commentators, is it okay that you squeal in a purely Ukrainian style? Doesn't it dawn on you that this is the purpose of such attacks - to force us to act not according to plans, to rush, make mistakes and lose people in vain? Or is that exactly what you are looking for?

Because the General Staff had to take into account the possibility of such strikes. And have a plan for a retaliatory strike against targets in Kyiv. Or is there a direction of the main attack, the offensive is proceeding according to plan, and the General Staff has already recorded the inhabitants of Donetsk, Kursk and Belgorod as allowable losses?

[Fedorovich]

Do you want us to carry everything in a row, and we, as in Lisichansk, were greeted with flowers? Or do you think that after this, the locals will not join the fistfight in shooting at us? You, my dear, are either pathologically naive, or a provocateur.

[Chronos]

Quote: Fedorovich

Do you want us to carry everything in a row, and we, as in Lisichansk, were greeted with flowers? Or do you think that after this, the locals will not join the fistfight in shooting at us? You, my dear, are either pathologically naive, or a provocateur.

Where, in Kyiv? No one has been waiting for us there with flowers for a long time.

[Fedorovich]

And so, of course, you need to aggro everyone in a row, yes. So that there is no chance that the bulk of the natives, when they get to them, put up their paws and galloped off to hand over trunks for a little money, there is no ... Yes, you are just a brilliant strategist!

[Chronos]

Quote: Fedorovich

And so, of course, you need to aggro everyone in a row, yes. So that there is no chance that the bulk of the natives, when they get to them, put up their paws and galloped off to hand over trunks for a little money, there is no ... Yes, you are just a brilliant strategist!

The bulk of the local natives, when changing power for money, if they don’t run to hand over their weapons themselves, then they will happily inform on a neighbor who has not handed over.

[Fedorovich]

You don't have to pretend to be stupid. They can believe...

[SVGagarin]

Let them roll into their Europe! Spit!

[Fedorovich]

Excuse me, are you dumb? The problem is they won't run.

[Antonina Ignatenko]

We don't really know. And if Zele is allowed to continue throwing one thousand young Ukrainian lives after another into the furnace, then in a couple of months they may and will be greeted with flowers.

[NNikolaich]

What is the connection between a retaliatory strike, let's say on targets in Lvov, and the number of flowers in Lisichansk? Or do you like Lvov closer to Russian cities, and are you more worried about Western Ukrainian cities than Russian ones?
And who is the provocateur here then?

[Fedorovich]

I repeat: do you want to aggro everyone on yourself?

[TatarinSSSR]

That is, in your opinion, when our homes and our people and infrastructure in our RUSSIAN cities are destroyed, those whom we came to "demitalize", we must remain calm, not give in to "provocations" and continue to let ukrostan sit quietly in the restaurants of Kyiv, Lvov and further down the list, nightclubs, use gasoline and solarium from untouched refineries, the Internet, the benefits of civilian life, deliver weapons from the west by rail, receive billions of dollars from us for gas transit, etc.? And our troops get stuck in heavy battles, winning back 3 km a day, incurring losses?

[DenVB]

Quote: Fedorovich

to force us to act not according to plans, to rush, make mistakes and waste people?

Should we be forced to do this? We are doing great on our own.

[SVGagarin]

You don't have to lose people! There are HIGHLY ACCURATE WEAPONS. THIS CLOWN SHOULD NOT ACCEPT ANYONE IN Kyiv, WHICH WILL BE SHOOLED REGULCHRNO.

[Fedorovich]

In your fantasies, perhaps.

[alexey alexeyev_2]

In response, shy away at any important infrastructure facility. For example, at the Dnieper Hydroelectric Station ... A thermal power plant in Kiev is also a tasty object. Destroy water supply and aeration stations. They will run away with shit.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Repellent

The dude is really a cannibal, if he said that ... are you also signing up?

That is, you do not like the result of your guarding activities? Well, it happens.

[Repellent]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

That is, you do not like the result of your guarding activities?

You do not translate the arrows ... switchman

Say it directly and clearly - also, what, do you want to destroy the Dneproges? Don't be shy, you won't get anything for it

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Repellent

Say it directly and clearly - also, what, do you want to destroy the Dneproges?

Why do I have to explain something to the guards every time on my fingers? You don’t hire smart people there in principle?

[Repellent]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Why do I have to explain something to the guard every time on my fingers?

Turn the fool off. We have known each other for a long time, do not try to seem stupider than you were.

However, maybe you're stupid? This happens with age ... My, if so, condolences.

Yes, and stop catching the guards ... get sober already. And then all the devils seem to you

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Why do I have to explain something on my fingers every time

Because it is customary to answer for your words, Makar. I’m answering, but somehow you don’t yet ... somehow it turns out incongruently

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Repellent

We have known each other for a long time, do not try to seem stupider than you were.

What are you?

[Repellent]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Quote: Repellent

We have known each other for a long time, do not try to seem stupider than you were.

What are you?

Not exactly:

Quote: Repellent

maybe stupid? This happens with age...

And again I guessed ... sadness

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Well, you have self-esteem. Not by intelligence. Am I supposed to remember all the feebleminded in Russia? Meehan, right?

[Repellent]

Quote: IS-80_RVGK2

Meehan or something

You yourself ... an owl

[aglet]

"Yes, what are you?"
yes, nothing special - an ordinary troll, on a time basis

[Kuzyakin15]

Repellent:
You never answered for your words, don't lie

[alexey alexeyev_2]

You at least buried someone who died in this war. Not? Well then shut up

[Fedorovich]

Were you allowed to open your mouth? I don't remember something like that.

[alexey alexeyev_2]

ok you. When ours approach the Dneproges, your friends will blow it up themselves

[Repellent]

Quote: Aleksey Alekseev_2

When ours approach the Dneproges, your friends will blow it up themselves

Have you tried to think with your head? But try. What, for example, will the explosion of the Dneproges dam by us (Russia) lead to and how will this affect NATO's position in Ukraine. Well, if because of the obvious setting in Bucha, such a storm has risen.

Think ahead, and much will be revealed to you. Hope.

[Orang]

It is true that metropolitan areas are very vulnerable in this regard. It is not necessary to carry it into rubble.

[NNikolaich]

Why destroy the Dneproges? People built and built. It is easier and more useful to gouge electrical substations, then it will be easier to restore them later.
The war will end, then people will need to live somehow

[Sergey Serov]

Stupid in form, but cynical and prudent in content... We checked the state of air defense in the Belgorod direction... Partially working, which shows its PERMEABILITY for a real massive missile strike, and perhaps not only a missile strike...

[pharmacist]

Quote: ramzay21

Are these already red lines or not yet?

I specifically looked at what was being reported on TV. The general meaning is “there were pops in the city”, “the governor promised to restore it”. So they are not red yet, apparently.

[Romanovski]

In the war and from
the branch flies even to civilian objects...Unfortunately...But I think that this should further unite the people with the authorities into one powerful fist, and not vice versa. And the local commentators with marshal's and general's shoulder straps and stripes can only advise to be patient and put aside the conversations in the ranks, since the authorities know better what, where and when to do...

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Where is the blow to Kyiv: it’s time to raze it to the ground.

[Serafim]

Don't be so rude. Maybe, as an option, to show the power of high-precision weapons, and smash the main “metropolitan” sewer pumping stations and pressure collectors into smithereens in half....

[Blade3]

Quote: sniperino

Quote from blade3

The information war ends where the real war begins.

The discovery draws on the Nobel Prize. Until now, they did not interfere with each other, and the information war only intensified with the start of the real one.

The depth of resistance to external flows of information depends only on the level of development of the brain receiving the information

[Blade3]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

Lisichansk and others. points are vacated by field commanders, soldiers, officers, pilots, tankers, artillerymen, signalmen, drivers, doctors, volunteers, etc. They perform the hardest work on the battlefield, risking their lives and health. And they do it perfectly! I am proud of them! What can not be said about those about whom I wrote above!

Pass! Bravo! They act on their own and not under command! Great!

[Victor Demchenko]

hopes of young men feed ...
don’t you remember where this truth comes from? but for me, it’s necessary either for the Supreme Commander to change his entire entourage, or simply hand over EVERYTHING that’s left! In my opinion, this is where everything is heading, I’m very afraid that there will be Khasavyurt No. 2...

[DED PICHTO]

It also seems to me that we are moving in this direction.

[Evgeny Babakov]

Maybe it’s enough to “chew snot”???

[v1tz]

A.V. Suvorov.

Our slowness will increase the enemy's strength. Speed ​​and surprise will upset and amaze him. The width of the river will not narrow, the height of the banks will not decrease.

... You go to beat the enemy, multiply the troops, empty the posts, remove communications. Having beaten the enemy, update according to the circumstances, but drive him to destruction.

[Heaven]

Quote: german zaj

Yes, they already have them. Point y, though an old but quite a long-range complex.

Point U hits a maximum of 120 km. I'm talking about missiles that can hit thousands of kilometers. Like calibers. Or does NATO not have those?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: duschman80-81

Or will we stir up negotiations led by Medinsky?

Medinsky's negotiator with the Nazis was absolutely epic. After all these boards to Mannerheim.

[AAK]

It is absolutely useless to be indignant at the fact that the leaders of the Russian Federation do not keep their word (something about acceptance centers..). I just watched the 9 o’clock news on Rossiya-24, in a report on the events in Belgorod - a brief show of the local governor, for 15-20 seconds, without a direct interview, and not a single Moscow official’s snout even croaked on the air. ..

[AdAstra]

And also “Residents woke up from loud bangs,” but they themselves don’t have a house in the footage. Such claps were not residential.

[likana]

These innocent victims are on the conscience of the Kremlin, in which many are unlikely to find Belgorod on the map... Generals are catching new races on their shoulder straps, well-fed diplomats in monotonous voices expose the insidious West, which rejects the ideals of such an idyllic partnership until recently, television talks about endlessly shot down drones and destroyed enemy control points... and Russian citizens are dying in their homeland, believing to the last that their native army will protect them... And no one wants to admit that this is not a military defense, but a WAR. And war has its own laws...

[Oorfene Juice and his wooden soldiers]

Gentlemen and comrades, why are you suddenly so excited? Do you need mobilization? Sit quietly, otherwise they will come and mobilize you, but do you need it? The Commander-in-Chief recently repeated to you that everything is going according to plan.

[Vlad1097]

His plan really failed on February 24 when he trusted our layman generals who simply failed the entire operation, leading to large losses of personnel equipment and a snail’s pace of advancement, which led to the loss of the image of our army on the world stage and showed that even the 23rd army of the world can stop us just a disgrace.

[Victor Demchenko]

In my opinion, this is already an indicator of the worthlessness of our leadership. I understand that there is no war without losses, but guys, how much can you look at how in the war OUR associates of the tsar get gesheft, but they don’t give a damn about the people... forgive me, but then it’s just swearing, and I’m tired of sitting in " bath"...

[huntsman650]

They will punish the senior anti-aircraft missile commander for missing the target. Give me a bank account answer!!!

[Wolf]

Heard one explosion approx. 3:05. I am approx. 3 kilometers from the explosion site. The impact is very loud.

[Arseny]

It’s time to fuck it up, no matter how little it seems, the bridges in Kyiv are a wonderful goal and it’s high time for their Rada to be demolished to hell. And then it will continue to be so. Such creatures only understand power.

[The collective farm is voluntary.]

Quote: Fedorovich

Quote: Aleksey Alekseev_2

For example, at the Dnieper Hydroelectric Station..

Sick bastard.

Don't rush to conclusions. The person is not calling for the destruction of the dam; it is enough to hit the transformers to extinguish half the country.

[Old sergeant]

Quote: NNikolaich

dill will not be thrown out of the Kharkov region for

And from the Sumy region? And finally from near Donetsk?
Tonight it arrived in Melitopol.
You see, even if you remove dill from all border regions, this will at least solve the problem of Russian cities. They will shell the regional centers of Ukraine that have come under the control of Russia. As long as they have long-range MLRS, the problems will not end.

[Metallurg_2]

Deliver a strike with tactical nuclear weapons on areas where the Ukrovermacht is concentrated in the Sumy and Kharkov regions. It's time to rev up.

[Fedorovich]

But people like you should be imprisoned as obvious provocateurs. It is simply impossible to give a better gift to NATO, because it will reduce the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons to almost zero - exactly what they dream of in Washington. Just the perfect excuse to give nuclear weapons to the Slavaurks... And where will it fly, eh?

[Metallurg_2]

First of all, I didn’t drink with you during Brudershaft
And secondly, if all bridges and all airports in territory 404 are first demolished, how can nuclear weapons be delivered there? By horse cart?

[Fedorovich]

And all the roads, yes - you apparently don’t know that planes can land on highways, but many transport workers need a primer.
PS I definitely wouldn’t drink with you...

[Sirocco]

I heard such a proposal from those who participate there, the local population needs to be punished, these are not the same people who were in the 15th year, they even then held a naked Wedding in Malinovka, and today, and even more so, ours are suffering losses thanks to the peaceful people who are causing cellular communications and the Internet.

[Techno]

Well, is it Bankova’s turn? Or will we wait until there are interceptions in Rostov or Voronezh...?

[Repellent]

Quote: Sirocco

Why are bridges and railway junctions still not destroyed? Isn’t it all because we are partners?

No, you are not partners... you just don’t know how to read:

By the end of June 2022, during a Russian military special operation, a crisis situation developed at the Ukrainian state-owned enterprise Ukrzaliznytsia, which is engaged in rail transportation.

Due to the ongoing hostilities, cargo transportation has decreased by 65%, Almost 6300 km of railway tracks were destroyed. The restoration of the railway infrastructure, including several traction substations, was estimated at 100 billion hryvnia.

Among other major losses of Ukrzaliznytsia were:

* destruction of a large diesel locomotive depot at the Pologi station in Zaporozhye region,
* withdrawal from full operation of the railway junction in Kharkov,
* actual railway blockade of Nikolaev due to the attack on the railway bridge near the Trikhaty station,
* destruction of the bridge in Zatoka,
* destruction of infrastructure near Kiev: move to Korosten and Nezhin

 Ukrzaliznytsia reports

https://www.tadviser.ru/index.php/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F:%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%8F_(%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B0)#2022:_.D0.92.D0.BE_.D0.B2.D1.80.D0.B5.D0.BC.D1.8F_.D0.A1.D0.92.D0.9E_.D0.A0.D0.BE.D1.81.D1.81.D0.B8.D0.B8_.D0.BD.D0.B0_65.25_.D1.81.D0.BE.D0.BA.D1.80.D0.B0.D1.82.D0.B8.D0.BB.D0.B8.D1.81.D1.8C_.D0.B3.D1.80.D1.83.D0.B7.D0.BE.D0.B2.D1.8B.D0.B5_.D0.BF.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.B5.D0.B2.D0.BE.D0.B7.D0.BA.D0.B8.2C_.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.B7.D1.80.D1.83.D1.88.D0.B5.D0.BD.D1.8B_6300_.D0.BA.D0.BC_.D0.BF.D1.83.D1.82.D0.B5.D0.B9

Enlighten

[Yuri Siritsky_2]

So what. We'll shake the air or we'll hit it hard.

[Alexey G]

A ground army of 280 thousand cannot wage a war against a multimillion-dollar state with a total area of ​​603 km², but it can conduct operations or a special operation on its territory. At the same time, Ukraine, having mobilized, is waging a war against us, so for now we are slowly carrying out the operation with small forces in Lugansk, they are hitting us across the border!
Our military doctrine, in view of the mini-ground army, is defensive in essence and is designed only for local mini-conflicts in which we defend and do not attack!
Neither air defense, nor shelling of Kyiv, nor the destruction of bridges will save us from these shellings!
The only remedy is to throw the enemy away from our borders at least 150 km away... Otherwise, our border will be the front line, and not a zone where the operation is not carried out and that means there is no war there. If the enemy is waging war against us, then we cannot insist that we have a special operation!
It's like being raped and you convince yourself and the rapist to drink coffee and watch TV!
War is a two-way process and it is impossible to ignore the enemy! You are connected to him. And if he doesn’t resist, then you can’t force him to fight, just as if he fights, you can’t force him to conduct a special operation!
Yes, the enemy wants us to be distracted from Donetsk and Lugansk and we need to prevent him from doing this by introducing new forces into the Kharkov and Sumy regions! Exactly new forces! Then we will throw back his RZSO and continue the battle in Donbass! There is no other way out and there is no other way out! The enemy doesn’t care that our army is not there, he hits the Russians wherever they are!
Where can I get these powers?? That's the question?! Partial mobilization or exposure of borders in the east. Both options are difficult, but it seems there is no way out!
You can, of course, supply the Russian Guard with heavy weapons and use it on the front line! But again, there is a question about the sufficiency of this measure. You may have to resort to all of this.

[cmax]

Quote: Alexey G

You may have to resort to all of this.

They will resort to Twitter and Kanashenkov, that’s all! ( life experience).

[Novosibirsk]

Japan? What?

[Vlad1097]

To block our western border from MLRS missiles, we need at least 2500 Pantsirs and Tors, plus dozens of special radars for detecting low-flying targets

[gansales]

Well...A tougher stage of the special operation begins! Kyiv was warned more than once...
We'll find out everything soon, this is already a challenge!

[AdAstra]

Excuse me, but reading you before was like a “children’s matinee”.

[gansales]

Quote from AdAstra

Excuse me, but reading you before was like a “children’s matinee”.

Well, something like that..Judging by the successful offensives and losses of the whole army, ours are very angry and can no longer understand whether a cook is stealing or a bread cutter..They are hammering them powerfully now

[kuztoday]

At least don’t write nonsense. you need to bring up news articles about how many times since February they have hit Belgorod-Bryansk-Kursk, how many people have already died there. civilian and everything is the same: now we’ll answer, now we’ll rein in... yeah) we’re waiting.

[navi13]

Quote: Sirocco

I don’t remember who said, if a fight is unavoidable, strike first. Don't remember who said it? Most importantly, we are reliable partners. Why do TV, communications, and the Internet still broadcast in Ukraine? Why are bridges and railway junctions still not destroyed? Isn’t it all because we are partners?

If the stars light up, then someone needs it. Everything is tied to money.

[AdAstra]

Yeah, the wrong Mustachios have gone...

[SVGagarin]

When we finally hit the Moscow Air Force, Zelensky’s residence, SBU, etc.!!!!
Or will we tolerate these dill? Crush them to hell, destroy them, wipe them off the face of the earth!!!!!!

[The collective farm is voluntary.]

A big minus for our intelligence. We don't see anything.

[Vlad1097]

Yes, Russia does not have strategic reconnaissance officers like the Global Hawk to conduct online reconnaissance throughout the entire territory of Ukraine, and even with conventional reconnaissance strike drones.

[AdAstra]

I really envy you, comrades, how you can comment on all this and not with swear words. And air defense systems with “no analogues in the world” are unsuccessful. And we are also trolls for the Jews with their iron dome.

[duschman80-81]

You can’t swear, the admins here are terribly strict, even without swearing, they ban you for words they simply don’t like and argue that it’s swearing. It decided that and that’s it. So you can’t understand whether they are for the Reds or for the Whites, or on two chairs. That's it.

[AdAstra]

Yes, I know, one account has already flown away, although it’s a stretch to call it obscenity there. They are the owners here, their website)))

[NNikolaich]

“I wish I could take Kremenchug with KRAZ”
If during the operation it is not possible to take Kharkov from the ancient Ukrainians, as well as Nikolaev with shipbuilding factories, Dnepropetrovsk with missile factories and Zaporozhye with engine factories, then it is advisable to grind all these factories into powder, so that if some kind of dill remains, then at least complicate They will maximize the task of restoring the military industry. Let them fight with sabers)))
But Odessa will have to be taken away from the ancient Ukrainians at all costs, as a matter of principle.
We must not forget the Ukropov atrocity in Odessa in 2014, when people there were burned alive, and some shitty Ukrop intellectual behind the scenes of the report said “lovely, charming.”
At the same time, we can then, if anything, protect our people in Transnistria.
It’s already very close to Odessa

[tolgenn]

Will we hear about the “adequate” answer again? The answer must be instant! Then let them
They are discussing whether he was adequate or not!

[cmax]

Most likely we will hear in response..... BEART.

[NNikolaich]

Mistakes happen sometimes. The main thing is that the response to the blow should be such that the desire to fire is completely discouraged

[Alexander Borisov]

Until the Ukrainian Armed Forces acquired American MLRS, they did not fire at Belgorod.

[501 Legion]

Quote: Starover_Z

Quote: antivirus

The rooster pecked.
Thunder boomed. The man has not crossed himself yet.
Warfare in high-waisted camisoles is not fashionable.
Waiting on the bridges across the Volga?

Today there will surely be 101 Chinese warnings from a spokesman....

Now it's called a Russian warning expressing concerns and goodwill

[Orkraider]

Belgorod.

This is the answer for Lisichansk.

They couldn’t withstand the confrontation with the military, face to face in battle, they take revenge. They take revenge on civilians. Strikes against civilian targets far or close to the front.
This is obvious to everyone.

Today, we must understand: for every victory we have, they will answer in such a vile way.
If they could, they would organize terrorist attacks.

Regarding the reaction to what happened!

Comrades, members of the forum, military personnel, you know that any plan is followed only until the start of the battle, and then the situation changes and new plans are applied, and war is like life.. it is impossible to foresee everything in it...
from here, stop reflecting.
Our reaction should be to grit our teeth and give an answer without emotion. Without succumbing to the attempt of hidden control, without being led by the OPINIONS of society, critics and, most importantly, “politicians”.

Someone presses buttons, and we turn. These shellings of Belgorod, this is the button that the West is pressing for us to do what?

You can downvote, but don’t behave like puppets, don’t give in.

Personally, today, in response to this, I transferred money to Lobaev and will soon go to deliver the next things from the collection: generators, membrane shoes, tools.

Ready to help in action, join and help the Army and the Iron Helmets.
With money, participation, or in person.
It's easy to criticize, difficult to do. And I’ll tell you, it’s scary, even if you are far from the contact line.

Strength and will to all!

[Carlos Hall]

Bomb Kyiv. Attack Ukrainian government buildings.

[Fedorovich]

What's the point? Well, if you kill a dozen clerks and a cleaning lady, what will that give you?

[ugol2]

Well, comrades in Moscow, is it time to start or should we wait?

[Graz]

when will our people stop chewing snot and turn Kyiv into ruins

[sleeve]

I can’t explain the “fad” of local experts. Judging by the support in the ratings (plus comments) it has wide approval. The essence of the “hobby”: calls for the start of large-scale terrorist actions by the Russian Armed Forces against civilians. Adopting fighting methods from your opponent is obviously perceived as a way to increase their effectiveness. This also includes additional points that are also attributed by part of the local expert community to “increasing the degree of real perception of reality.” These include the persistent incitement of negativism towards the Ukrainian nation itself, practically a call to introduce SVO and national confrontation. In addition, one can highlight the use of the expression “strikes at decision-making centers.” It is obvious that experts who consider themselves such here cannot ignore the practical execution of these statements by the RF Armed Forces during the term of the SVO. The attacks on the headquarters during the meetings caused and are causing serious damage to the control system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, the main tone of commentary for some reason tends to discuss ineffective and even harmful options for implementing the principle associated with attacks on political central control centers, which have a more symbolic meaning, and due to the status of the Northern Military District, have not lost their peaceful purpose from a legal point of view (despite otherwise content of activity). The provocative ways of conducting dialogue with the authors, the use of phrases “what are you proposing?”, “are you writing from the trenches?”, as well as hints at the collusion of the Russian authorities regarding the conduct of the SVO at the highest levels are obviously aimed at increasing the negative degree of the discussion, in including the expansion of unrelated criticism of the actions of the army and the country. Apart from everything else, this gives grounds to the other side, including foreign media, to exaggerate the point of view about the lack of support for the actions of the leadership and the Armed Forces by the population of the Russian Federation or about chauvinistic sentiments in society, which helps in justifying their own crimes and provocations of Ukrainian nationalists.
I express my condolences to the civilians of Russia who were subjected to terrorist actions by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

[DenVB]

Quote: sleeve

practically a call to introduce SVO and national confrontation

This is national confrontation. This is what many still do not want to understand when listening to tales about “one people.”

[kuztoday]

Quote: sleeve

exaggerate the point of view about the lack of support for the actions of the leadership and the Armed Forces by the population of the Russian Federation or about chauvinistic sentiments in society, which helps to justify their own crimes and provocations of Ukrainian nationalists.

If you don't do good, you won't get evil. The issue of Banderization of Ukraine and the reluctance of people in Donbass to live according to the new rules was taken and stupidly shifted to Russia. Decide, they say, help. We do not live under the king of peas. Aw, wake up already. In today's time - this is not under Ivan the Terrible, Prince Temryuk asked for help - Russia once helped. And without consequences, and no one took $300 billion. Now the time is different. If you can’t tolerate the ideology of Nazism, you packed up your suitcases, boarded trains and left for the Russian Federation. If you can’t leave, you’ll have to endure and live under the new order. That is life. You never know what someone doesn’t like.... We don’t have enough examples that say that today everything can’t be solved with a click??? Crimea is not enough for us??? Don't live as you want - live as you have to. And there is no need to call Russia forever. If you can’t change anything yourself, live with what you have. But starting a massacre doesn’t require any brains.

[ada]

Quote: sleeve

..."fad" of local experts...

I’ll explain (as best I can, but I’m pretending).
This is obvious, and there is only one reason - the insufficient level of military and political preparedness of the population and detachment from participation in state affairs and political struggle.
Based on a purely military aspect, in view of existing and possible threats to the country, doctrinally enshrined in the Russian Federation, the preparation of the population for them failed from the very beginning, obviously in order to avoid the growth of contradictions (social, economic, political, religious, interethnic, etc.) within the country and on its external contour, insoluble by simple methods, and also due to the significant targeted influence of strong world centers in these areas in order to achieve the weakening of our country and a decrease in the level of its competitiveness. As a result of external influence, according to the principle of the gradual development of the factor of influence on the mood of the population, we should get a “civil war” in every family (team, locality, etc.) and a significant destruction of the management system of the state apparatus, including local government bodies, economic and social collapse, leading to regional (national) fragmentation and, subsequently, to the complete loss of state administration in a significant part of the regions, in fact, the loss of statehood and integrity of the country. The result is clear.
Well, it all begins with the upbringing, training and education of a person, and in the mass - a population ready to govern the country. It is precisely this blow to man, inflicted on us earlier, that is now being felt to the fullest.

[Blade3]

Quote: DenVB

Quote: cmax

Moscow will be shelled

Russia will only laugh, watching dear moyshkvichs run along the freshly tiled streets and shout "What are we for ?!"

We are not pan-headed and we will not rejoice. And for Moscow we will ask the enemy to the fullest

[Osipov9391]

This government will definitely never ask anyone for anything. Even for possible attacks on Moscow.
Well, aren't the facts visible?
The 5th month of the operation has begun, and none of the stated goals have been achieved even close!
Ukraine is now the most militarized state in Europe, weapons have been brought in and will be brought in as many as have never been there;
The rampant nationalism and Banderaism is unprecedented.
And nothing can be done about it.

[kuztoday]

This is just betrayal, so let them think of me as whoever you want. This madness called the Northern Military District could only have started like this, with plans for the further destruction of Russia.

[Repellent]

Quote: Osipov9391

This government will definitely never ask anyone for anything. Even for possible attacks on Moscow

Oh, why are you so fired up, boy?

Quote: Osipov9391

The 5th month of the operation has begun, and none of the stated goals have been achieved even close!

Well, so far your guys have escaped from Lisichansk. They abandoned the equipment and knew better.

Quote: Osipov9391

weapons have been brought in and will be brought in as many as have never been there before

And everything will be as written...

And there are shells, but the arrows are beaten. And there are rifles, but there are few fighters

Weapons don't fight on their own, boy. Can not

Pichalka to you.

[kuztoday]

Was there a demand for the cruiser "Moskva"? Was there a demand for oil rigs from Zmeiny? This is what Belgorod will be like.

[Third district]

Quote from blade3

. And for Moscow we will ask the enemy to the fullest

Shall we ask about Belgorod? And for Donetsk and many other peaceful cities of Donbass. Or is it something else?

[Novosibirsk]

Yeah. Until we catch up with America

[Vlad1097]

The Russian world, in reality, offers nothing in terms of anything better, only a worse standard of living, the same censure of freedom of speech, bureaucratic lawlessness, indifference and laziness on the ground, inflated corruption and bribery in all spheres of society and constant deception about phantom successes that do not exist in reality.

[Osipov9391]

Mobilization in Ukraine is in full swing.
Thousands of conscripts have already been sent to Europe to study.
And they study. How many of them there are unknown.
But!
The very thought of becoming an Abrams driver or a Patriot air defense system operator, much less an Apache helicopter pilot or a Bayraktar operator, excites many yesterday’s schoolchildren and other people looking for a place in life.
There are thousands and thousands of these who will come to the recruiting stations on their own.
And they will go to Europe to study.
But there are others. Much more ready. But you need motivation there.