Hypothetical aircraft industry: advantages and problems of the F-36 Kingsnake concept

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Hypothetical appearance of the F-36 fighter

In March last year, "alternative aviation magazine" Hush-Kit presented the concept of a promising fighter F-36 Kingsnake. This hypothetical design proposed the optimal design and methodology for developing a new aircraft for the US Air Force, capable of replacing the aging F-16. Obviously, such a concept will not receive any development and it is unlikely that the Air Force will pay attention to it. However, some of the ideas of this "project" are of interest and require careful study.

Initiative from outside


At the beginning of last year, representatives of the US Air Force said that in the near future, the development of a new fighter to replace the existing F-16 will begin. These statements attracted attention - and, among other things, became the reason for the publication in Hush-Kit. The magazine proposed its own version of a promising aircraft called the F-36 Kingsnake (“Royal Snake”).



The F-36 concept was worked out by the editorial staff of the magazine with the involvement of experienced British aircraft manufacturers. One of its authors was Stephen McParlin, an aerodynamicist who worked for 22 years at RAE / DRA / DERA / QinetiQ. James Smith, a participant in the development of a number of combat aircraft, also contributed. Graphic materials for the "project" were made by artist Andy Godfrey from Teasel Studio.

The main idea of ​​the concept is to accelerate the development and construction of aircraft through a reasonable reduction in requirements and the rejection of overly bold ideas. New organizational solutions were proposed to help avoid the typical difficulties of recent projects. In addition, the general technical appearance of such an aircraft was worked out.

The main features and benefits of the F-36 concept were described using cars as an example. The existing F-35 fighter was compared to a Ferrari supercar, and the F-22 was compared to the more complex and expensive Bugatti Chiron. However, the US Air Force needs something like the Nissan 300ZX, and that's what the Kingsnake should be, less expensive but efficient.

New approaches


A characteristic problem of recent American projects was the delay in work and the increase in cost. In this regard, Hush-Kit offers several fundamental organizational innovations. Curiously, some of these measures directly reject established principles.


First of all, the customer must draw up reasonable tactical and technical requirements with a minimum level of risks, as well as “freeze” them and not review them for a year. The main executor of the project must be selected without a competitive stage; he gets the right to independently search for subcontractors. The same goes for engine development. It is expected that this will save time and will not increase the cost of the work.

The project should develop as quickly as possible so that political speculation does not start around it and the notorious “state pie” with dubious financial processes does not form. The development of the project should be monitored by a specially appointed "King of the Luddites" - a technically competent and strong-willed person, not prone to careerism and unpleasant in communication. It should stop attempts to revise the technical requirements in the direction of complication and increased risks. However, further modernization through the introduction of new units and software is not ruled out.

The aircraft should be created for the smallest production site that does not have sophisticated technologies. Accordingly, only available materials and components that do not require long-term development and development should be used in the design.

Simplified design


The F-36 concept proposes the construction of a tailless multipurpose fighter aircraft. Its characteristic feature is the rejection of stealth as one of the main goals of the project. As a consequence, the generation of such a fighter would have to be downgraded to "5-". However, the expected benefits fully cover the possible losses of this kind.

An aircraft with a pronounced fuselage and a deltoid wing is proposed. The nose is taken from the production F-16, and the wing resembles the planes of the experimental F-16XL. A deltoid wing with a broken leading edge should improve aerodynamics and maneuverability. At the trailing edge of the wing, two keels are provided with a slight outward camber.

A modified and simplified F119 engine from the F-22 fighter was placed in the rear fuselage. Engines from the F-15EX and F-35 were also considered, but were deemed impractical. Modification of the F119 will allow you to get the desired characteristics and speed up the work. In particular, the aircraft will be able to reach speeds of up to Mach 1,4 without the use of afterburner. Connecting the afterburner will allow you to accelerate to 1,8-2 M.


Production F-16C from the US Air Force fleet

In the nose of the aircraft, there should be an AN / APG-83 radar with AFAR and an optical radar station. The workplace of the only pilot is organized according to the principle of "glass cockpit". In this case, a windshield indicator and a unified helmet-mounted display system are used. Such a composition of equipment will be simpler and cheaper than on the current F-35.

The authors of the project considered that the F-36 needed a built-in gun. The M61 Vulcan product was placed in the right wing influx. Missile weapons will include modern and advanced models of various types, incl. long range products. Work on ground targets with the help of missiles and bombs is not excluded. For weapons internal compartments and pylons under the wing can be used.

Prospects and challenges


The authors of the F-36 Kingsnake concept were not limited by the actual tactical and technical requirements and the approved project development procedure. In this regard, they came up with quite interesting ideas in all major areas, and these proposals are worth considering in more detail.

The main idea of ​​the hypothetical project is to simplify the organization, development and design as much as possible. This will save time and reduce costs, but will limit the level of performance that can be achieved. In fact, a 4-class machine is proposed to replace the 5+ generation fighter, but it will not have to wait long.

An original approach to the development and implementation of the project is proposed. It excludes the traditional competitive part, which can take several years. In addition, a "freeze" of technical requirements is envisaged - they should not be revised during design, because adjustment of the assignment is always followed by a revision of the project and going beyond the established financial and time limits. An interesting proposal is the "King of the Luddites", which will protect the project from overcomplication and associated risks.

The course towards simplification affected the design of the F-36 aircraft. It is based on developments in existing and experimental technology, as well as finished or slightly modified units. The time and financial benefits of such a design are obvious. At the same time, as preliminary calculations show, the correct choice of components and assemblies allows you to obtain a high level of performance without additional projects.


Despite all the simplification measures, there is a fundamental possibility of equipping the Kingsnake with the most modern avionics that determine its combat qualities. The same applies to weapons: the fighter will receive an old cannon, and with it missiles of various models, including those that do not yet exist.

However, the concept from Hush-Kit has a number of serious problems that actually exclude its further development. First of all, this is its origin. The USAF has not yet ordered the development of a replacement for the F-16, and the proposed F-36 is an "initiative development". Moreover, this “project” was not carried out by an aircraft manufacturing company, but by a group of specialized journalists and specialists. Obviously, such a concept is of no real interest to the Pentagon.

The proposed development methods are associated with certain benefits. But they require a complete restructuring of the existing system of defense orders and related processes. Such proposals will definitely not suit the military department. Thus, the guidelines provide for a competitive stage of development and establish other aspects of the creation of new technology. It is unlikely that these principles will be redesigned for the sake of possible savings in money and time, and also at the risk of new problems of an organizational or corruption nature.

The US Air Force intends to develop the 5th generation of fighters and is already working on the next 6th. The proposal to reduce the generation is unlikely to find understanding among them. At the same time, it should be taken into account that a real replacement for the F-16 will appear only by the beginning of the thirties, and by this time the F-36 fighter of the “5-” generation will simply become obsolete. This fact will predictably affect the opinion of the customer.

In addition, it is easy to see that the F-36 has no fundamental advantages over the F-16. It is only about the growth of individual characteristics and the emergence of some new features. A technological breakthrough like the difference between the F-16 and F-35 is not in sight. This obviously reduces the hypothetical value of Kingsnake to the customer.

Hypothetical aircraft industry


Obviously, the concept of the F-36 Kingsnake fighter from Hush-Kit magazine and British aircraft manufacturers will remain at the level of general ideas and theoretical proposals. For a number of reasons, it has no chance of practical implementation. Moreover, the US Air Force may not even notice it, like a lot of other magazine "projects".

However, in the specialized departments of the Pentagon, in related organizations and in aircraft manufacturing companies, similar ideas and concepts are already being worked out. Next year, the Air Force is going to start developing a promising replacement for the F-16, and it is necessary to work out the appearance of such a machine, as well as draw up tactical and technical requirements. For now, it cannot be ruled out that the Air Force will eventually require some kind of “paper” F-36, but this issue will become clear only in the future.
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  1. +2
    29 June 2022 16: 08
    F-16XL in the new edition. We just need to remember why the F-16XL failed.
    1. +3
      29 June 2022 16: 33
      Quote: Pavel57
      F-16XL in the new edition. We just need to remember why the F-16XL failed.

      It seems that such a publication in the Hush-Kit magazine had a completely different goal and it was with the expectation that third-party "kulibins" would refresh engineering and design stereotypes and rigidity, naively discussing certain structural elements of the product and offering their own vision of solving problems.
      So to speak, a view from the outside, from another country and from another field of activity.

      For example, letaki from the movie "Avatar" are nice to me, but not knowing how to assemble them. Who would have a clue, would be immensely grateful fellow
      1. +17
        29 June 2022 19: 04
        Quote: credo
        For example, letaki from the movie "Avatar" are nice to me, but not knowing how to assemble them.

        So this is ... Take two T-90MS, three Tunguskas, a file and 8 boxes of adhesive tape ... Adhesive tape - which is adhesive tape, not alcohol, although, of course, you can’t figure it out without a bubble. drinks
        1. 0
          30 June 2022 07: 25
          Fe-35 for "poor relatives" is obtained.
        2. +1
          1 July 2022 14: 12
          Scotch is still needed the one that is alcohol. And the tanks should be rolled up exclusively with electrical tape. Blue.
          1. +2
            1 July 2022 14: 50
            Quote: MauZerR
            And the tanks should be rolled up exclusively with electrical tape.

            so yes, but ... Nothing will work. I forgot about plasticine!
    2. 0
      29 June 2022 17: 12
      We just need to remember why the F-16XL failed.

      Because they chose the F-15E as a drummer.
  2. KCA
    0
    29 June 2022 16: 09
    There is also a ready-made replacement project, Checkmate is called
    1. +1
      29 June 2022 17: 11
      There is also a ready-made replacement project, Checkmate is called

      Ready? Hmm, I didn't even see the first flight. While flying.
      And how many Su-75s have already been built?
      A year has not passed since they showed the plywood layout and the finished version. That's what I understand!
      1. KCA
        0
        29 June 2022 17: 23
        Are you able to read and understand what you read? The finished project and layout does not mean the presence of a flight copy, the project is a theoretical development, a mock-up for purging in a pipe, but the flight copy is a little later.
        1. -5
          29 June 2022 17: 49
          A completed project is a completed project. And this implies a ready-made, not even a prototype, but a combat aircraft.
          In the case of the Su-75, this is just a theoretical project.
          1. KCA
            0
            29 June 2022 17: 56
            Here is their mother, a project is a project, and a finished combat aircraft is a finished project, and the project is successful, unsuccessful, postponed, but just experimental, like the S-47 "Berkut"
            1. -6
              29 June 2022 18: 05
              Finished, i.e. - finished project. In the meantime, there is no project in the hardware, it is simply theoretical. Will be in the hardware, then another conversation - practical.
              But whether it will be successful or not is unknown. After all, they want to make the Su-75 with an emphasis on export, where there is high competition.
            2. +1
              1 July 2022 14: 15
              At one time, our aviation press (in particular, the Aviation and Cosmonautics magazine) did not hesitate to call the C-47 the first 5th generation aircraft that allegedly overtook the F-22. Reality put everything in its place.
    2. +2
      29 June 2022 17: 13
      Quote: KCA
      There is also a ready-made replacement project, Checkmate is called

      Judging by the proposals, the authors of the project fell under the spell of the Su-75: all parts, assemblies and assemblies, as well as technical solutions worked out on the Su-57, are also assembled there to be thrown into Shah Mater. As they say: angry, but by no means cheap!
      The second thing that shook me (by no means a pro in the aircraft industry!) in the correctness of the choice of journalists was the lack of STEALTH technologies in the project. With this one, they cross out the entire TACTICS of the US Air Force in conducting air combat with a technically equal enemy. Without stealth, the Yankees would immediately lose the surprise factor and first strike advantage. And, considering that the F-36 has a round nozzle, without UVT, a non-integrated circuit body, an unregulated air intake - good luck in the BMWB he will not see his ears! Therefore - NOT ICE !!!
      This is the essence of the stillborn idea of ​​optimizing the time to design, build and deliver a product to the aviation market. But who wants to buy "yesterday"!?
      After all, it was said by a classic: You can’t go far in the carriage of the past! (With).
      IMHO.
      1. KCA
        +2
        29 June 2022 17: 31
        There is such a thing as ROFAR, which ANY stealth technology is on the drum, it is believed that the leaders in development are ROFAR Russia and China, and if there are already prototypes of ROFAR, what the hell is developing an expensive but useless technology? ROFAR, as it were, even in terms of energy consumption is more profitable than AFAR once every ten, and smaller in size, oppa, and old SU-27 air defense aircraft receive ROFAR and SVV-BD, horror
        1. +2
          29 June 2022 18: 05
          Yes, I read about this miracle of location. Considering that they threaten to release the Su-75 by 2023, this message suggests that ROFAR is on its way. And this cannot but rejoice!
          Before the start of mass production, the Su-75 (as well as the older version) may receive a radar with a radio-optical phased array (ROFAR). The use of photons will increase the detection range of air targets to 300-350 kilometers and will allow tracking up to 20 targets at the same time, which, in fact, turns the fighter into a mobile air defense station capable of flying very fast.
          https://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/56302-fotonnyy-radar-i-sverhdalnyaya-raketa-chem-vooruzhat-novuyu-nadezhdu-rossiyskiy-/
          1. KCA
            0
            29 June 2022 18: 41
            Stationary ROFARs were shown a little more about two years ago, and the picture from them, of course, is no specifics, maybe even misinformation, but time goes by, and, personally, as a non-specialist, the refusal of our airborne forces to develop and implement AFAR leads to some thoughts, I hope I'm not wrong
            1. +2
              29 June 2022 19: 54
              Quote: KCA
              the refusal of our airborne forces from the development and implementation of AFAR suggests some thoughts, I hope I'm not mistaken

              Guesses nourish young men, give courage to elders ...
              So, perhaps, did they paraphrase AS Pushkin? laughing
              1. KCA
                -3
                29 June 2022 20: 04
                Well, it’s not idiots who create the SU-35S, SU-30SM, SU-57, that would be the AFAR right at the pinnacle of radar engineering, they really couldn’t put it on stream, they developed it for the MIG-29, and the FAR was created for the first time in the USSR , but then they got stuck, well, I don’t believe that they couldn’t. AFAR has a lot of shortcomings, a number van is water-cooled, is it not weak to carry a refrigerator on a fighter? Have you seen the outdoor units of air conditioners? So this is the same crap inside the plane, next to the AFAR
                1. +1
                  30 June 2022 10: 03
                  Liquid cooling and not water cooling is on many radars, both SCHAR and FAR / AFAR, as well as turbo-coolers, radar carriers are on all machines. The USSR was one of the leaders but not the first in PAR, the same B-1V Lancer also carried a radar with PAR, and much more advanced.
          2. +3
            30 June 2022 09: 56
            There is still no serial AFAR, and you are talking about ROFAR, dreams.
        2. 0
          29 June 2022 18: 55
          Who is considered?
          KSA-reincarnation of the Nexus, galleries?))
          That’s all .... tugging at the uberiarel .... which is not used anywhere except for exhibitions and tests
          1. KCA
            +3
            29 June 2022 19: 27
            I have been KSA since 1990, I have never changed my nickname anywhere, it has been on the Internet since 1994, but where should military advanced developments be published? Dohrena shone "Caliber"? Everyone knew that the USSR had a "Garnet" in the version of anti-ship missiles, KR NK, there was a project with PGRK, but the appearance of "Caliber" was a surprise, and anti-ship missiles, and NK and PK, and "Onyx" with the same launcher is suggestive , well, and now also "Zircon" against the backdrop of shooting "Onyx" at ground targets, if I find out that ROFAR tests are being carried out at the Almaz-Antey training ground, I, of course, will not tell you, but I can find out, by chance,
        3. 0
          29 June 2022 19: 17
          Quote: KCA
          There is such a thing as ROFAR,

          At what frequency does this thing work?
          1. KCA
            +1
            29 June 2022 19: 31
            That's right for everyone, from 1Hz to 100GHz at the same time
            1. +2
              29 June 2022 20: 36
              Quote: KCA
              That's right for everyone, from 1Hz to 100GHz at the same time

              Such a photon, spread over the spectrum as much as 99 GHz? Cool. I suspect not only stealth technology, but also physics textbooks will be obsolete as soon as this thing works.
              1. KCA
                -1
                29 June 2022 20: 48
                "KRET wrote that radio-optical phased antenna arrays will significantly expand the capabilities of modern communications and radars - their resolution will increase tenfold. If a modern locator has a radiation frequency of 10 GHz, 3 cm with a spectrum width of 1-2 GHz, then ROFAR this frequency can be from 1 Hz to 100 GHz simultaneously."
                KRET, of course, are storytellers, right? You will shut them up by the belt with your knowledge in the field of electromagnetic waves, are you an academician already, or are you still a candidate? Have you written your own physics textbook?
                1. +1
                  29 June 2022 21: 25
                  Quote: KCA
                  KRET, of course, are storytellers, right?

                  It is true.

                  Quote: KCA
                  You will shut them up by the belt with your knowledge in the field of electromagnetic waves, are you an academician already, or are you still a candidate?

                  Let them demonstrate a working prototype showing miracle properties that already existing radars operating in the ranges from 1 to 100 GHz do not have. Then we'll see.
                  1. 0
                    30 June 2022 10: 25
                    Let them demonstrate a working prototype showing miracle properties,

                    no need to be foolish. Demonstrators of this technology were tested either last year or the year before.
                    1. 0
                      30 June 2022 11: 40
                      Quote: Ka-52
                      no need to be foolish. Demonstrators of this technology were tested either last year or the year before.

                      You haven't read it. Where are the miracle properties demonstrated?
                      1. 0
                        30 June 2022 12: 01
                        miracle properties are in the very principle. Compare the principles of radar and the principles of reducing radar visibility due to the absorption and / or re-reflecting of a radio wave with the principle of probing a target with polarized photons. For now (I think not forever), stealth technologies can be thrown into the trash. I'm not talking about the fact that the main design troubles of standard radar antennas will sink into oblivion.
                      2. -1
                        30 June 2022 12: 06
                        Quote: Ka-52
                        with the principle of target probing by polarized photons.

                        Polarized photons of what frequency?
                      3. +2
                        1 July 2022 07: 44
                        Polarized photons of what frequency?

                        I am not a developer of ROFAR and neither the vector nor the frequency of the photon are known to me. The receive channel itself with optical heterodyning provides a bandwidth of up to 100 MHz.
                        I don't understand this stupid skepticism. The phenomenon has been physically studied for 10 years already. Both us and the Americans. The very idea of ​​using an RFT instead of a radio frequency coaxial cable is ideal and has been used at the household level for a long time. The idea to use as a probing signal a laser beam, modulated in amplitude by a carrier microwave signal, instead of a radio wave, is also not a technically unsolvable problem. Why this faith in a flat earth?
                      4. 0
                        1 July 2022 08: 04
                        Quote: Ka-52
                        I am not a developer of ROFAR and neither the vector nor the frequency of the photon are known to me.

                        "Speak what you know. And what you don't know, don't talk about it."

                        Quote: Ka-52
                        The phenomenon has been physically studied for 10 years already.

                        What phenomenon? Photons? Einstein studied them. The Nobel Prize for the creation of quantum electrodynamics was awarded in 1965.

                        the idea is to use a laser beam as a probing signal

                        Congratulations. You just invented lidar.

                        Quote: Ka-52
                        Why this faith in a flat earth?

                        Are you asking me?
                      5. 0
                        1 July 2022 08: 31
                        Congratulations. You just invented lidar.

                        Dada, and how is the quantum correlation between radio waves and optical radiation carried out in lidar?
                      6. 0
                        1 July 2022 08: 44
                        Quote: Ka-52
                        Dada, and how is the quantum correlation between radio waves and optical radiation carried out in lidar?

                        If I understood what you are talking about, I could answer something intelligible.
                      7. 0
                        1 July 2022 09: 14
                        Well, a dude with Indian roots and the status of an assistant professor in physics understood. And so, about 10 years ago, with colleagues on the shores of Ontario, I piled what you here with such persistence consider unfeasible request
                      8. -2
                        1 July 2022 09: 56
                        Quote: Ka-52
                        Well, a dude with Indian roots and the status of an assistant professor in physics understood. And so, about 10 years ago, with colleagues on the shores of Ontario, I piled what you here with such persistence consider unfeasible

                        Since I don't understand what you're talking about and you can't answer my questions, it's very hard to say how feasible this inexpressible is.
      2. +1
        29 June 2022 21: 20
        Without stealth, the Yankees would immediately lose the surprise factor and first strike advantage.

        The number will crush
        1. To date, the fleet of the Air Force and the US National Guard consists of 5501 aircraft
        2. KMP: F35: 95+11, F-18: 10+70+1+50, Harrier: 109+17
        We don’t consider any noise: a tanker, convertoplanes, helicopters, VTA and friction
        3. Navy deck:
        РџР ° Р »СѓР ± РЅР ° СЏ Р ° РІРёР ° С † РЁСЏ
        F/A-18A/B
        F / A-18C
        F/A-18D
        F / A-18E / F
        Number = aircraft carriers * air wing.

        EVEN TO COUNT LAZY, there are really a lot of them and ~ the entire fleet of the air force of the Russian Federation.
        Without any trifles like drill
        And, given that the F-36 has a round nozzle, without UVT, a non-integrated circuit body, an unregulated air intake - good luck in BMWB he will not see his ears

        The times of Vietnam: the phantom against the MiG-15/21 are long gone. Israel has proved it many times
        Generals ☝️ always prepare for the last war
      3. 0
        30 June 2022 06: 09
        Judging by the proposals, the authors of the project fell under the spell of the Su-75: all parts, assemblies and assemblies, as well as technical solutions worked out on the Su-57, are also assembled there to be thrown into Shah Mater. As they say: angry, but by no means cheap!

        you should also know that the F-35 was assembled according to exactly the same principle.
        With this one, they cross out the entire TACTICS of the US Air Force in conducting air combat with a technically equal enemy.

        and how do the F-16 and F / A-18 correspond to the "US Air Force tactics" at the moment?
        that the F-36 has a round nozzle, without UVT, a non-integrated circuit body, an unregulated air intake - good luck in the BMWB he will not see his ears

        do not write clichés and clichés. Firstly, due to the large area of ​​\u4b\uXNUMXbcarrier planes and lateral controls, the "duck" aerodynamic schemes have excellent controllability without any UVT. Especially if (since they spit on radar visibility) they also add a PGO. Secondly, why did you decide that this model does not have an integral aerodynamic layout? I see at least XNUMX signs of this scheme from the picture. Thirdly, which side is the adjustable air intake for maneuvering at high angles of attack? Its task is to remove shock waves during supersonic flight. In addition, the DSI ramp is visible on the side view.
      4. +2
        1 July 2022 14: 20
        The F-35 nozzle is also round, the Su-57 is round, or rather axisymmetric narrowing-expanding and has a UVT. Flat nozzle reduces IR visibility. The F-35 air intakes are also non-adjustable, google DSI air intake. The problem of this project is the lack of space rules in the formation of the fuselage, the lack of internal cargo compartments. The plane is technically backward, because. just trying to revive the F-16XL, which is 30 years old at lunchtime.
    3. -1
      29 June 2022 18: 50
      From the tender documentation, the documentation will not pass through our public procurement platform ...: they probably sit, sob, bite their elbows
  3. 0
    29 June 2022 16: 10
    Yeah, and the flag of Ukraine on the tail, someone has a flask hanging
  4. sen
    +1
    29 June 2022 16: 12
    Its characteristic feature is the rejection of stealth as one of the main goals of the project.

    Judging by the contours and the yellow coating of the lantern, in the first two pictures, stealth elements are still present.
  5. +3
    29 June 2022 16: 35
    There is a final serial offer for India F-21 .... that's all. No one will invest money in a king cobra ...... for this money there is F15EX, which will solve all issues. If there is little, they will add a new UBS, which they did together with the Swedes
  6. -1
    29 June 2022 16: 41
    Hypothetical aircraft industry: advantages and problems of the F-36 Kingsnake concept
    . Whoever searches always ... well, not always, but sometimes finds something interesting, worthwhile.
  7. 0
    29 June 2022 17: 00
    Kingsnake - the king of snakes, the king of the traitor, ...

    They probably get some kind of pleasure by coming up with such names for their pepelats ...
  8. +1
    29 June 2022 17: 03
    When the author has nothing to write, he writes....
  9. +2
    29 June 2022 18: 17
    Until there are clear customer requirements for designers, all this is idle nonsense. The main concepts have been worked out even before the 90s.
  10. +3
    29 June 2022 18: 32
    What to discuss then? Any firm throws in a dozen such concepts.
    Fig projects, IMHO, can be immediately distinguished by fig 3D graphics - and they also spare money on it.
    Yes, and suboptimal contours immediately cast suspicion - that even not an amateur drew ...
    1. 0
      29 June 2022 19: 50
      Yes, and suboptimal contours immediately cast suspicion - that even not an amateur drew ..
      Quite right, a schoolboy from the aircraft modeling circle of pioneers, sorry, scouts, drew.
  11. 0
    29 June 2022 20: 46
    Quote: Pavel57
    ket does not mean the presence of a flight copy, the project is a theoretical development, a mock-up for purging in a pipe, but the flight copy is a little later.

  12. 0
    29 June 2022 21: 26
    Doesn't make sense. If you use modern electronics, then the price of a finished copy in production will be close to the F-35, what's the point of designing it?
  13. +1
    30 June 2022 00: 07
    I do not understand, due to what simplification? AFAR, engine from the F-22, avionics with bells and whistles from the F-35 (they said that it was simplified, but they listed all the bells and whistles. And it’s stupid to spend effort on simplifying the complex software from the F-35). There is no adaptation for sailors and that's it ...
  14. -4
    30 June 2022 06: 09
    The F-36 concept proposes the construction of a tailless multipurpose fighter aircraft. Its characteristic feature is the rejection of stealth as one of the main goals of the project.

    But then the question is what for inventing a sheep when there is an F-16?)
  15. +1
    30 June 2022 10: 15
    The material is so normal, but just a set of inherently fantastic contradictions.
    How can all this be combined in one machine?
    1 Modern and cheap
    2 Simple and complex at the same time
    3 Do not change the requirements for the aircraft, while the military themselves do not know what they want to get
    4 Complex yet simple technologies
    1. 0
      30 June 2022 10: 27
      Do not change the requirements for the aircraft, while the military themselves do not know what they want to get

      the key is that the military has not yet formed its requirements. Procedurally, this translates into TTR. Basically they don't exist. request everything else is blablabla and discussions of another spheroconin
  16. +1
    30 June 2022 12: 00
    "It is easy to see that the F-36 has no fundamental advantages over the F-16. It is only about the growth of individual characteristics and the emergence of some new features." This is the main reason why this F36 is absolutely unnecessary! negative if you feel like it, then in F16 you stick everything that you wanted to stick in F36 and you get a fighter 4++++++++, which is no worse than this 5-! It will turn out even cheaper, and observing all the inherent innovative principles of the development of the F36: no tenders (made by the developer of the F16), a minimum of innovation (the aircraft is generally already in the series) and no one will change the characteristics (the aircraft is still not politics otherwise) lol
  17. 0
    30 June 2022 17: 16
    Why are the air intakes on the bottom? When installing a bunch of missiles, including hypersonic ones, there should be a lot of space from below, and then there is the chassis. If the stealth is still a priority, the doors of the weapons compartments open from below (although it is not clear, at the same time, the entire stealth disappears). The speed and maneuverability of the suspension have little effect. By the way, according to the characteristics of the F-16, it is inferior to many European fighters with one or two engines. I am generally silent about the MiG-29. The MiG-35, of course, is a hack, not the next project. Which is not surprising in the Russian Federation did not really do anything. All the quadro-heads, after all, hit the road to the metropolis.
  18. 0
    2 August 2022 08: 35
    And what is that yellow-blaky color at the tip of the keel? Have Svidomo ran out of unpainted sewer manholes in Europe and they decided to "make happy" the American military-industrial complex? laughing
  19. -2
    13 September 2022 18: 21
    It is expected that this will save time and will not increase the cost of the work.

    Who said that the Pentagon is interested in reducing the cost of work, taking into account where its generals will land after the resignation drinks

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