The West has never stopped viewing Russia as an adversary

The West has never ceased to view Russia as its enemy and geopolitical adversary. Realizing that it was impossible to achieve victory over our country militarily, the West used a method proven by others - nurturing and feeding individual representatives of the elites, who at some point could be thrown at the "color revolution barricades". When laws on “foreign agents” were adopted in Russia and a number of destructive organizations were banned, in the West this caused first irritation, and then outrage. The West tried not to comment on the fact that similar laws are in force in the United States, apparently trying to use the paradigm "What is allowed to Jupiter ..."

Lured domestic "elites", including those who were going to "divide Russia" either along the Ural mountain range or along the border of Siberia, suddenly began to seek salvation abroad. Like, we are to the marrow of your bones, and therefore shelter, warm. But the question is: do the West need all these people in the West itself? The answer seems obvious - no, they are not needed. Their mission was in Russia and against Russia. And in the West there are already enough of those who are against Russia.

Now the West is looking for new designs to weaken our country. Often these constructions are joined with the economy. However, so far there are problems in this field as well, since the sanctions stick, like any stick, turned out to be double-edged, and it can also hurt those who impose sanctions against Russia. The EU is already feeling it. Inflation in the Eurozone in some countries has exceeded 20 percent, which calls into question the further viability of the European economy in the event that it opposes itself to the Russian economy.

Today they are trying with might and main to use Ukraine, even if it is falling apart before the eyes of the West itself.

Nikita Mikhalkov reflects on the situation of anti-Russian pressure from the West and the accompanying effects in his author's program "Besogon":

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[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

The West has never stopped viewing Russia as an adversary

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You looked east for hundreds of years
Digging and melting our pearls
And you, mocking, counted only the term,
When to point the cannons!...

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[Tatyana]

It is wrong to assume that the enemy of Russia is mainly the United States, and the countries of Western Europe in the face of the EU are only "victims" of the globalist politics of the "deep state" of the United States, allegedly controlled by Washington, because in reality this is not entirely true.

The countries of the EU - the countries of Western Europe even before the formation of the United States - at all times have had and still have their own parasitic-national policy in relation to Russia - the country as such: monarchical-feudal, socialist, capitalist - any!
EU countries have been prospering since 1990 due to cheap finance and material resources of Russia - and they got out of their economic crisis of the 1980s and then got rich precisely as a result of the robbery of the former Soviet republics after the collapse of the USSR due to the transfer of their influence by foreign agents "above" in the power of the USSR / Russia to the West, almost all financial and other economic resources of the countries - ex-republics - of the former USSR!
It was, in fact, about the gratuitous transfer by Russia to the West of TRILLION dollars invested in the economy of the same Western Europe, and not just in the US economy.

Therefore, one should not be surprised at the modern anti-Russian sanctions policy of the same Western Europe - on the part of the EU - at all.

Moreover, the stock of economic strength of Europe itself stolen from the USSR / Russia after the collapse of the USSR is so great that the EU countries can temporarily stay afloat for quite a long time the increased internal high cost in their anti-Russian sanctions, etc. "shooting yourself in the foot" in order to only break another jackpot for yourself in the future with Russia weakened by European sanctions

The military-political and economic "card game" of each of the EU countries against Russia, including its own, is going on in a big way - and the West's stakes are made in the interests of a new robbery by the West of Russia, and not just supposedly from the US alone!

TOTAL. As a result, the US and the EU are not only opponents among themselves, but also allies against Russia, depending on what this counts from.

[stirrer]

EU countries have been prospering since 1990 due to cheap finance and material resources of Russia

Oh, the new "manual" has come up, why don't we prosper in Russia due to our cheap resources, we have always had cheaper gasoline, electricity, water, timber, land (in any form) than in the EU? We have never had problems with environmental control (just look at Krasnoyarsk, Novokuznetsk, Kemerovo, etc.). Where in Europe the owner of a pig farm spends a lot of money on ensuring environmental requirements, in our country they simply slaughter and arrange “gas attacks”:

The mayor of Novosibirsk, Anatoly Lokot, admitted that the source of the unpleasant smell in the city is the pig farm of the Kudryashovsky Meat Processing Plant. He instructed the housing and communal services department to “activate” every wave of stench.
Answering questions from journalists, Lokot admitted that the source of the unpleasant smell in Novosibirsk is located at the pig farm of the Kudryashovsky Meat Processing Plant, located outside the city.

“Recently, an off-site meeting was held and deputies and specialists from the mayor's office went there, to the Kudryashovsky pig farm. The source has been identified. The smell is associated with a violation of technology from the waste products of the animals of the pig farm, ”he noted.

https://tayga.info/156975

News for 20 years, but the smell (or rather the stench) is still there.

In general, if it was only a matter of cheap resources, then we should just live like in any Monaco.

[Tatyana]

Quote from: stirrer

In general, if it was only a matter of cheap resources, then we should just live like in any Monaco.

So it is for them in the West that our Russian resources have become cheap since 1989 and after the LIQUIDATION of the USSR, and not for us and at our expense!
And they are made cheap to the West through inadequate exchange rates of national currencies and the abolition of state duties on exports from Russia

At that time, it was possible, for example, to buy an apartment in St. Petersburg for a 1-month salary in $$ of an average American, for which a local city dweller would earn his whole life!

"Thank you" for this to Gorbaty, Yeltsinyug and "market people" - "young reformers" in short pants - curly hair, Chubais, Gaidars, etc., and the like. They brought the country to an official default in 1998! Under the control of American advisers, the Yeltsin team destroyed the army and navy, resold the military-industrial complex to foreigners, as well as everything that could only be reached by foreigners in our country in order to pocket and destroy!

[stirrer]

So it is for them in the West that our Russian resources have become cheap since 1989 and after the LIQUIDATION of the USSR, and not for us and at our expense!

Well, I don’t even know, well, there is a history of oil and gas prices, you can see everything, they were not expensive until 89, with the exception of the crises caused by the Arab-Israeli wars.

At that time, it was possible, for example, to buy an apartment in St. Petersburg for a 1-month salary in $$ of an average American, for which a local city dweller would earn his whole life!

Only the average American lives in the US and has been earning (more precisely, paying loans) for an apartment in New York all his life. But this is not the answer to why we are not prospering, we have very cheap resources for us, cheaper than in the West, and this continues, I think, for at least 40-50 years. In our country, even in winter, we open the windows from the fact that they are drowning as if not themselves, but in Europe the same Germans freeze slightly and wrap themselves in blankets in the winter because of the economy.

"Thank you" for this to Gorbaty, Yeltsinyug and "market people" - "young reformers" in short pants - curly hair, Chubais, Gaidars, etc., and the like. They brought the country to an official default in 1998! Under the control of American advisers, the Yeltsin team destroyed the army and navy, resold the military-industrial complex to foreigners, as well as everything that could only be reached by foreigners in our country in order to pocket and destroy!

And why don’t you want to say thanks only to Gorbachev, but to Brezhnev, Khrushchev, Stalin, Lenin? Moreover, in fact, it is primarily Stalin’s fault that he did not want (for reasons understandable to the dictator) to create a legitimate procedure for changing power, did not want to introduce a deadline for the term of office of the Secretary General, as a result, they got it, Stalin sat until he died, after him there was an undercover struggle Khrushchev came to power. Khrushchev probably would have sat in the same way until the end of his days, but he was thrown off in the same “undercarpet” way, Brezhnev came and sat to death, along with him the whole elite, just as decrepit, but sat stubbornly in their places. Well, then you know.

[Tatyana]

Quote from: stirrer

So it is for them in the West that our Russian resources have become cheap since 1989 and after the LIQUIDATION of the USSR, and not for us and at our expense!

Well, I don’t even know, well, there is a history of oil and gas prices, you can see everything, they were not expensive until 89, with the exception of the crises caused by the Arab-Israeli wars.

Everything must be correlated with the exchange rate and trade state duties.

At that time, it was possible, for example, to buy an apartment in St. Petersburg for a 1-month salary in $$ of an average American, for which a local city dweller would earn his whole life!

Only the average American lives in the US and has been earning (more precisely, paying loans) for an apartment in New York all his life.

Only if you came to the USA with the salary of the then rassiyan in the translation of rubles into dollars, then you would stretch your legs there in comparison with this American and, without outside help, would live as a homeless person on the street.

But this is not the answer to why we are not prospering, we have very cheap resources for us, cheaper than in the West, and this continues, I think, for at least 40-50 years. In our country, even in winter, we open the windows from the fact that they are drowning as if not themselves, but in Europe the same Germans freeze slightly and wrap themselves in blankets in the winter because of the economy.

That is why we do not prosper that the country lives in a speculative usurious peg by the West of the exchange rate of $ to the ruble, which is dictated to us by the US Federal Reserve through its branch - through the IMF. And without this, the Germans would have lived even worse! And so for them, through the exchange rates that they set for Russia, there is a pumping of material resources from Russia to the West, like water in communicating vessels. Without this, the Germans would save even more and live even worse.
The purchasing power of the US dollar in Russia at that time was simply stunning! Can you imagine how much valuables could have been exported from Russia to the West for years - right up to its default? And this also applied to other foreign currencies.
At that time, we officially lost $1 trillion of Russian property, and not officially $3-4 trillion!!!
We were then turned into a raw material colony of the United States and the "collective West". And now the West is expropriating at zero the loot in Russia and from our Russian oligarchs!

[stirrer]

Only if you came to the USA with the salary of the then rassiyan in the translation of rubles into dollars, then you would stretch your legs there in comparison with this American and, without outside help, would live as a homeless person on the street.

Why should I go to the USA with the salary of a Russian then? Well, why such an owl pulling on a globe?

That is why we do not prosper that the country lives in a speculative usurious peg by the West of the exchange rate of $ to the ruble, which is dictated to us by the US Federal Reserve through its branch - through the IMF. And without this, the Germans would have lived even worse! And so for them, through the exchange rates that they set for Russia, there is a pumping of material resources from Russia to the West, like water in communicating vessels.

You can play this game together and use the proceeds to buy equipment, technologies, develop your own production, and taking into account cheap resources, you can have a huge advantage. That is, here only if not everything, then almost everything depended on us. In China they did it, in South Korea they did it, but some “Fed” is preventing us.

[Tatyana]

Quote from: stirrer

Why should I go to the USA with the salary of a Russian then?

You did not understand me. I'm not talking about the size of wages, but about the purchasing power of the US dollar in other countries compared to it, as in the United States itself. For 1 monthly average salary in the USA, you can’t buy a good apartment there, like ours! You will croak. After all, I am not covering this aspect of Vai, but about the overvalued BUYING POWER of the American dollar in other countries of the world in general!

Quote from: stirrer

You can play this game together and use the proceeds to buy equipment, technologies, develop your own production, and taking into account cheap resources, you can have a huge advantage. That is, here only if not everything, then almost everything depended on us.

Stalin understood this and unleashed the SPECULATIVE-USTORING dependence of the ruble on the American dollar in the form of the American exchange rate, which was dictated to us by the US Federal Reserve, and dictated his really fair - Soviet - exchange rate.
Those. under Stalin, the USSR set its own exchange rate of $ to the Soviet ruble - MORE REAL, Or refused to buy anything from the USA and sell to the USA and the collective West at the rate of FOREIGN currencies to the ruble set by the Americans and at the same time created in the USSR itself the industry necessary for the country for the production of necessary goods in your own country. At the same time, the industry of the USSR grew at a rapid pace.
This is what is called "untie" the American SPECULATIVE-USURICIAL exchange rate of $ to the national currency of another country - in this case, to the ruble.

Yes! For $$ you will buy machine tools in the USA, but here's the question. HOW MUCH will you buy them at the American exchange rate?
To understand this question, let's solve the following problem as an example.
Let's give it to us.
An American machine costs $100 in the USA
And the SPECULATIVE exchange rate of $ against the ruble set by the US Federal Reserve is 1 to 10, while the REAL exchange rate by RUSSIAN MEASUREMENTS ...1 to 2
How much do you need to pay for 1 machine in rubles to Russia?
ANSWER:
At the rate of the US Federal Reserve .............. 1 million rubles.
At the REAL exchange rate ........200 rubles.

Let's say you bought a machine at the rate of the US Federal Reserve.
Then it will mean that you have invested in the US economy
1 - 000 = 000 (rubles)
This means that for 1 machine sold to you, the United States can build 4 more units. the same machines!
Or does it mean that the US can buy 1 times more for $5 in Russia than in the US itself.

What's not to understand here? From such an AMERICAN SPECULATIVE-COLONIAL exchange rate of $ to the ruble, the US economy will grow 5 times faster than in Russia!
And at the same time, US-currency holders will have 5 times more opportunities to buy Russian wealth in the domestic market of Russia than ruble-holders.
With the removal in Russia of the customs protection of the Russian market, permission to buy up Russian natural resources by foreigners, the purchase of Russian wealth by foreigners will go at a rapid pace. What happened under Yeltsin.

[stirrer]

. I'm not talking about wages, but about the purchasing power of the US dollar in other countries compared to it, as in the United States itself.

Apparently you don’t understand something yourself, it works both ways, except for resources, it suddenly becomes profitable in the country to buy machine tools, cars, planes, etc. China, for example, deliberately underestimates its exchange rate against the dollar. And for example, in Switzerland, a Swiss may well buy an apartment in the USA with his salary.

[Tatyana]

China for a long time - after the collapse of the USSR - is not for the West a RESOURCES power, which Russia then turned into!

The PRC, with its ruling Communist Party and already the third largest economy in the world, adheres precisely to the Stalinist policy of maintaining the exchange rate of its national currency against $ and participates in the WTO (a US structure) on its own favorable terms for the PRC - and not as it entered the WTO and is still suffering Yeltsin's Russia.
Stalin also gave a small "handicap" to the American dollar in relation to the Soviet ruble, and not 1 to 1.
And the yuan is also completely untethered from the US dollar by the US Federal Reserve, although the US economy is already the second largest in the world.

We have an empty conversation in you.

[stirrer]

Tatyana, you are completely confused, sometimes under Stalin the exchange rate is more realistic (what?), Now China adheres to Stalin’s policy, although it greatly underestimates its yuan against the dollar, that is, making the “purchasing power” of the dollar in China higher than the yuan and the Americans are very much “burned out” by this, because “suddenly” the competitiveness of Chinese goods in front of American ones increases.
You are really hurting the owl, it will soon burst from such attempts to pull it onto the globe.
I repeat, all these games are played together if it is cheap to buy resources from a country, then it turns out that under certain conditions it is very profitable to organize production in this country, etc., Japan, South Korea, China went through this. Why we didn’t succeed, probably primarily because of corruption, when any investment we had was a “risk farming zone” and they remain so now, but this is not at all because of the Fed or the WTO.

Under Stalin, in general, they simply robbed their people, read Sholokhov’s letter to Stalin, here on VO there is an article https://topwar.ru/82380-masholohov-ivstalinu.html, they took away grain and drove abroad, and even with such sadism all this was carried out.

[Tatyana]

Under the global dominance of the US dollar, the US Federal Reserve Stalin was also forced, to some extent, to still give odds to the American dollar in relation to the ruble. I did not climb at all into the narrow neck of the Americans.
Those. The USSR under Stalin after 1945 also agreed with the United States on a more or less "golden mean" of the exchange rate of our currencies. Naturally, this was possible due to lower wages for workers.

Furthermore. You don't have to take everything literally.
After all, I just explained to you, using an ABSTRACT example, the essence of the financial and political problem and the principle of the mechanism of colonial exploitation by the United States of other countries through the exchange rate of $ as a world currency, set by the US Federal Reserve, in relation to the national currencies of other countries. I don't go beyond the scope of this issue.

You carefully watch the above BOTH videos.

[Tatyana]

Quote from: stirrer

And why don’t you want to say thanks only to Gorbachev, but to Brezhnev, Khrushchev, Stalin, Lenin? Moreover, in fact, this is primarily Stalin's fault, <, ...> Well, then you know.

My dear! You immediately touched upon a bunch of problems, but all of them again rest on the exchange rates that the West set for us and through which we were robbed.
You need to look at the root of the problem consistently and without omissions from today back in order to understand the past, at least for the last century.
The whole point of the post-war well-being of the United States after WWII / WWII - in part - was due to the international peg of national currencies to the US dollar - and the Soviet ruble as well. Namely.

In the USSR, as a result of Western economic sanctions against our country since 1937, the ruble was already pegged to the US dollar - i.e. the exchange rate of the Soviet ruble was calculated against foreign currencies on the basis of the US dollar (although since December 1943, a financial and credit system was already being developed in the USSR to decouple national currencies - the Soviet ruble - from the US dollar).

Then, in July 1944, the Bretton Woods system of currency relations and international mutual settlements was introduced in the world, which lasted until 1976. The international ratification of this system was in 1945.
Prior to this, the events were as follows:
- May 22, 1945 in the UK developed a plan for the operation "Unthinkable" against the USSR.
- In August 1945, the United States carried out an atomic bombing of the cities of Japan.
- On September 4, 1945, the United States - according to "Memorandum No. 329" - outlined 20 cities of the USSR for American atomic bombing in case of confrontation between the United States and Great Britain against Soviet Russia.

POSTWAR essence of international relations between the WINNER COUNTRIES was that The USSR was an equal partner of the anti-Hitler coalition and Stalin was going to maintain a similar position for the post-war period. At the same time, Stalin intended - and it is right! - to share with the Anglo-Saxons a sphere of influence not only in Europe and Asia, but also in the economy. The ruble zone is the dollar and pound zone.

However, it is after the American atomic bombing of Japan, which demonstratively frightened the USSR, the United States and Great Britain, as a result of the Bretten Woods agreement, denied the USSR the equality of the victorious countries and offered the USSR, in fact, to become their satellite, giving Stalin time to think before December 1945 for an answer.

Therefore, in connection with the above events on the part of the United States and Great Britain in December 1945, Stalin refused to ratify the Bretton Woods agreement, although he had signed the documents of the agreement in July 1944 before that.

And then in 1947 Truman came out with his doctrine "in defense of democracy and against socialism." And on August 29, 1949, the USSR tested its atomic bomb.
As a result of all this, the so-called. The cold war of the USA against the USSR is precisely because Stalin refused to surrender the national sovereignty of the USSR to the USA. Gorbachev and Yeltsin will hand him over.

The 1947 currency reform is our response to the Bretton Woods Accords (WAC)

[stirrer]

My dear! You immediately touched upon a bunch of problems, but all of them again rest on the exchange rates that the West set for us and through which we were robbed.
You need to look at the root of the problem consistently and without omissions from today back in order to understand the past, at least for the last century.
The whole point of the post-war well-being of the United States after WWII / WWII - in part - was due to the international peg of national currencies to the US dollar - and the Soviet ruble as well. Namely.

China simply laughs at your statement.

[Tatyana]

Quote from: stirrer

Stalin sat until he died, after him undercover struggle Khrushchev came to power.

Stalin refused to surrender the national sovereignty of the USSR to the USA. Gorbachev and Yeltsin will surrender him.
But they were not the first to do this in the post-war period. And Khrushchev began to do this with his Khrushchev reforms in the USSR in 1961.
It was Khrushchev who moved away from the Stalinist position of not pegging the Soviet ruble to the US dollar and pegged it to the dollar as a result of his 1961 financial reform.

This peg of the ruble to the US dollar in favor of pumping the wealth of the USSR to the West as a result of wrecking agricultural reforms in the country by Khrushchev after Stalin served in the future to the steady impoverishment of the USSR in favor of the West in a colonial-monetary manner and the formation of a trade mafia in the country.
At the same time, the West grew rich, and the Soviet people lived on small salaries from paycheck to paycheck, envying, as you say, the material well-being of the working people and the economic development of the power of the countries of the capitalist West. By the way, it was precisely due to the Khrushchev peg of the Soviet ruble to the dollar by the US Federal Reserve.

The monetary reform of 1961 - the destruction of the economy of the USSR. The main reason for the collapse of the USSR?


1961 Money Reform of the Year.

[stirrer]

This peg of the ruble to the US dollar in favor of pumping the wealth of the USSR to the West as a result of wrecking agricultural reforms in the country by Khrushchev after Stalin served in the future to the steady impoverishment of the USSR in favor of the West in a colonial-monetary manner and the formation of a trade mafia in the country.

And under Stalin, resources were pumped to the West, why exactly did Khrushev become an enemy?

[nickname7]

, why don't we prosper in Russia at the expense of our cheap resources

And we lived not badly, but free apartments and cheap electricity and hot water became part of nature and, as it were, lost their value. It turned out that chewing gum and jeans are of great value, without chewing gum a person became unhappy.

[sen]

The West has never stopped viewing Russia as an adversary

The West needs Russia as a trophy, its lands and resources so that they can be robbed.

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: sen

The West has never stopped viewing Russia as an adversary

The West needs Russia as a trophy, its lands and resources so that they can be robbed.

Well, the population density in the west is up to 300 people / sq. km, and in Russia 10 people. Only 2% of the population owns 1/8 of the land area and up to 30% of the world's resources.

It would be naive to believe that we will be left alone. Yes, they will fall in the ratio of ten to one in a military confrontation, but what a jackpot?

This is until they are ready, but they will starve and freeze for three years, these three years will live, as we lived in the nineties and zero, and, they assure you, a new Wehrmacht on our borders of several million will be provided.

The issue must be resolved when you have a strategic advantage. So Ukraine is just the beginning of a big confrontation.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Damir Zakirov

It would be naive to believe that we will be left alone. Yes, they will fall in the ratio of ten to one in a military confrontation, but what a jackpot?

From trying to grab this jackpot, only ears will remain!

[Bolt cutter]

starve and freeze for three years

No one will starve and freeze here - the margin of safety in the economy of the West is not sickly.

new wehrmacht

It won’t be needed, they will simply allow Russia to sell its resources to itself.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: sen

The West needs Russia as a trophy, its lands and resources so that they can be robbed.

Europe has already devoured itself long ago, there are no fossils, no forests, even hares and they are all counted, it kept only on the colonies, which it plundered with impunity. The colonies are gone, but you want to eat more and more, and next to it is the vast Russia, which Europe has been looking at for more than one century, but "the eye looks, but the tooth is numb", they knocked out the "grandma" teeth all the time. You can’t take Russia with a bang, which the Euro-Nazis understood in 1945, but thanks to the traitors
Gorbachev and Eltsin, who somehow joined them Kravchuk and Shushkevich, the state almost crumbled. And now there are a lot of Kravchuk-Eltsyn-Navalny, who need to be pulled out like teeth, without anesthesia, only in this way can Russia live and exist. The friendship of Europe is like the friendship of a wolf and a lamb. And this is for life.

[stirrer]

You are 100 years behind in your understanding of the world, many people have resources and land, and in terms of climate, most of our territory is not even attractive for us to live in. Now (at least 50 years) technology and human resources are much more important as a sales market.

[Terenin]

The West has never ceased to view Russia as its enemy and geopolitical adversary.

Well, what about us if Western politicians do not have enough brains.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Terenin

Russia as your enemy

[2 Level Advisor]

The West is some kind of wrong concept .. let's be specific - we are in Holland, Portugal and, for example, Ireland, etc., are we really needed? I doubt it very much .. let's not generalize the West .. let's be honest - the Anglo-Saxons and their striped "golem". and dot. Enemies need to know in person. The West is somehow about nothing .. if every "little thing" obeys them, it is because they are afraid, and not because Liechtenstein claims Rostov ..

[kytx]

It is quite correct to understand the "west".
Look at Napoleon's great army or at Hitler's army, the whole of Europe was noted there.
Except Ireland of course :)
Always respected the guys from Ira

[Emergency]

Why never? There was a moment, under the EBN and the Jewish bankers ("seven bankers"), when the West considered Russia not as an adversary, but as prey. When they realized that they were in a hurry, it was already too late. "Everyone thought that Russia was on its knees - and it turns out that she was lacing up her berets." (C)

[Andrey Moskvin]

I can’t even imagine how to lace up the berets on my knees.

[rocket757]

The West has never stopped viewing Russia as an adversary

. What is this, some kind of revelation, news ???
Hatred of foreign elites, envy and any actions, attempts to win and plunder our wealth!
Against this background, all the attempts of our elites to get closer, meet, adapt to the wishes of foreign "friends-partners" look like a mockery!
In general, they have discussed it more than once and nothing new can be found here, especially something positive.

[Bayun]

This time, the West planned to fight the Germans at the G. But Russia - as usual - preferred "its own field", the polygon-U.

[Knell wardenheart]

What kind of opponent are we to the collective West, pray tell? We have razikov that way in 7 weaker demopotential, razikov that way in 12 weaker total GDP. Western states are "developed states", our state is a "developing state". In terms of investments in anything, in terms of available funds, in terms of the total cost of infrastructure, it is impossible to compare us even with the United States, but comparing with the collective West is simply ridiculous.
All these songs about "the West wants to take away our resources from us and divide our country .." to WHAT? What is the end result of this "super mega crazy plan"? Are these resources needed by the West or not? If needed, who will provide them? But in fact, right now they are being mined at minimal cost - and until recently, it was at the lowest prices that they were rafted to this very west. What's the fun in "winning" this? Do you think that prisoners can get all this at a lower price? No, for this very reason, capitalism everywhere crushed the previous formations - slave labor is unprofitable, it is an overspending on security, on training. And under capitalism, a person not only happily plows for a penny, he is also ready to pay for this education, ready to pay taxes, serve as a conscript, buy and eat various crap without discontent - because he has an ILLUSION of power over his own choice. Until recently, resources were cheaper than they were giving to the West - they will not cost the West, because if these territories are controlled by the West, there will be environmental standards in one form or another, they will have to keep highly paid employees, protect them, protect communications. And yet - it's just magical! The Russians themselves, with joy and endless enthusiasm, will stretch out a bunch of pipes for their money, they will pump them in any weather, even if they spit in their faces and sell weapons that kill their soldiers.
How can there be a more favorable configuration for the West, gentlemen?))

As for "dividing the country" - please tell me, but are we, in fact, not divided? We do not have a living capital, which has long been its own kingdom-with-king of Chechnya, Tatarstan, which is approaching this, some distant and completely culturally autonomous Tuva, Primorsky Krai, which has also been living its life "in itself" for a long time. Yes, in principle, most of the Caucasus, which have long been the question "from?" on the Internet they write not "Russia" but "Caucasus", and often the Russian language is practically not used in everyday life.
No, formally everything is "magical", uniform and cool. But is this the unity that we so loved to be proud of in the glorious moments of history? Or is it the same chimera as the recently sung "friendship of peoples" and "brotherhood of peoples."

I'll tell you what the West wants - it gets so excited about us not because we are "competitors" or "opponents", not because of some of our paths that threaten it. And because we are constantly sausages, we, like passionaries, activate the surrounding space in some kind of endless turbulence that does not lead to anything good for a long time. Periods of our excitement end with periods of decline and depression, then everything starts again. And again. In this primordial chaos, we do not want to build something "stable +", nor to become part of Western architecture - we only want to shake the earth endlessly, dumping chaos into the surrounding space.
You ask me - how is this different from the West, because he does the same? And it's true - but the West creates Chaos on the periphery, achieving success and development in the "developed states", but we have no difference between the periphery and the center - we make noise wherever we can do it. In itself, "action" for us is the highest good and goal, like a buzzer at a party.
Before you say "fi" with a disgruntled face - think about how many forces we killed to build an empire (by 1917), then we lose it and there is a fierce raskolbas. Then we collect it again (1939-1945+), only to lose again by 1991. And again there is a fierce raskolbas, with years of trash and degradation. Then something clicks again, and we again start to stir up something, and again it is not clear how long it is, how strong it is, what it will hold on to, and so on.

You see, we, like a child, start building a house on a whim, as soon as we see sand and a few stones. And also, on a whim, we destroy it. Because I wanted to, because it scratched at the fifth point to suddenly irritate everything. We do not look to the future, we do not think far, we do not care about the standard of living, long-term progress, stability. For no one (except for a small group of people, for ourselves). It is in this that our, if you can call it that, "interests" overlap with the Western ones - because we create a resonance that reaches, among other things, to their estates.
This can be compared to a stoned neighbor in a neighboring summer cottage who loves to constantly listen to loud music or fry something smelly, or walk around the site naked and sing. It seems that you are separated by a fence - but his activity constantly ANNOWS you. It kills all your aesthetics, destroys your plans specifically.

Our "antagonism" with the West is not a problem of the "insidious West" for the most part, it is a problem that it is high time for us to take up our heads and build something strong, stable + for people. And stop already shaking the air how much in vain.

[Repellent]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

What kind of opponent are we to the collective West, pray tell? We have razikov that way 7 weaker demopotential, razikov that way 12 weaker total GDP

In a street fight, the fattest doesn't necessarily win. And not even necessarily - the most prepared (the darkness of examples of this).

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

Our "antagonism" with the West - this is not a problem of the "insidious west" for the most part , it is a problem that it is high time for us to take up our heads...

Ai-ai-ai ... write so many letters to justify such stupidity. My condolences

[2 Level Advisor]

if it's about the fight

Quote: Repellent

And not even necessarily - the most prepared (the darkness of examples of this).

I agree. but the one who is prepared to win has an order of magnitude more chances .. and so I or you can even knock Tyson .. quite ... just the probability is very small ..

[Repellent]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

so I or you can even knock Tyson .. quite ... just the probability is very small ..

Sharpening in the area, for example, the liver - and it doesn't matter if it was Tyson or someone else. I just knew specific examples of this.

[2 Level Advisor]

well, yes .. you can’t argue if from this point of view .. God created people different, and Mr. Colt equalized their chances ..

[Repellent]

I'm just talking about the topic starter's question:

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

What kind of opponent are we to the collective West

- by default assumes a nuclear conflict.

And there it’s all the same to “GDP and mob potential”, it won’t seem enough to anyone. Although I really don't want to, of course.

[2 Level Advisor]

in my impression, the author was not only talking about nuclear weapons .. weapons and war - after all, there are also economic and propaganda ones (in fact, this is the Cold War) .. and it was with these weapons that the USSR was defeated, and it was stronger than the Russian Federation by a head .. I was like that I understood the author of the comment that he was talking about this .. and no one will inflict a nuclear strike on us .. it is not profitable for them .. but the capitalists do what is profitable .. I don’t see a single reason to strike us first on their part. .

[Repellent]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

weapons and war - after all, there are still economic

It is the economic war that is now going on, in full growth. And what, the West wins? I don't see it yet...

As for the "propaganda" - it's better not to mention it, it's useless now.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Repellent

It is the economic war that is now going on, in full growth. And what, the West wins? I don't see it yet...

and economic war is a battle of attrition .. and nuclear war is rubilovo and knockout .. so far it seems like 1 round .. but preliminary in all respects, we are weaker in a war of attrition .. but they won’t go to rubilovo .. but in general life will show .. but in a war of attrition - all bets are against us .. P.S. on the EU - the Anglo-Saxons - deeply put .. what to do? yes xs - I don’t see beautiful (without compromise) options .. I’ll be glad if you specify

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Quote: Level 2 Advisor

preliminary in all respects, we are weaker in a war of attrition ..

What is your evidence? (With).

[2 Level Advisor]

West 70% of the world's GDP / Russia 2%.. have something to refute? Sarmatian?

[Repellent]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

West 70% of world GDP / RF 2%.

Pah

[2 Level Advisor]

very reasonable statement ... save ..

[Repellent]

Quote: 2 level advisor

very reasonable statement ... save ..

Yes to health. Already tired of the adherents of the "holy GDP" (I'm not talking about Putin now).

[2 Level Advisor]

that is, we are one of the leading industrial powers, the conflict with which will cause the collapse of the world? Yes, you are stoned ... all the best .. return to reality (advice) with inadequate ones I don’t want to communicate KO-LO-NI-I .. this is the current RF .. sadly insulting and interferes with self-knowledge? sad .. minus me - but in reality this will not change the FACTS - we are all that the Boss asks - we supply everything .. give the opposite facts or wipe your own - urya

[Repellent]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

I don’t want to communicate with inadequate KO-LO-NI-I .. this is the current Russian Federation ..

What does this set of words mean?

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

downvote me

Quote: Anecdote

Masochist: - Cut me, cut! Burn me, burn me!
Sadist: Nooo... Don't boo-oo-oo!

It inspired

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Repellent

that is, we are one of the leading industrial powers, the conflict with which will cause the collapse of the world?

ok, let's not get emotional.. sorry..

[Repellent]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Quote: Repellent
that is, we are one of the leading industrial powers, the conflict with which will cause the collapse of the world?

I didn't say it, you asked.

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

I'm sorry..

That `s all right

[Knell wardenheart]

Exactly so, although I fully admit that at some point in the West there will be a great temptation to use counter-force tools.
The problem is that we are stuck in a logical "loop" that spins us like a hamster in a wheel. We are wildly stupid, "dumping the ballast" of the strategic gravity and stupidity that is unbearable there (Revolution, 1991), which we ourselves have wound up - Soon we understand that losses are unprofitable for us in the medium to long term, we have the illusion that our current course MULTIPLE COOLER than the past, and that the current elites "certainly know how to do everything chotko" - We begin the stage of returning the lost, thoughtlessly forcing, and on the wave of a series of successes, we have the illusion of the success of the system - Since our former economy, having been " draw" begins to intertwine with the West and its interests, these convulsions cause the natural dissatisfaction of the West. Its pressure on us is increasing, at least in order to protect our own investments and plans - We are pushing through what we want, achieving it at the last snot. We find ourselves in a situation of antagonism with the West and the dominance of tactical decisions over strategic ones (here and now) - An array of tactical decisions is dumped into a huge Augean heap of generally mediocre and unprofitable foreign and domestic policy, costs and discontent are accumulating -> the system is going to fatigue from itself I will disintegrate under the weight of my imperfection and the beginning of a new cycle.

So, all this time of fierce raskolbas, the west developed evenly and progressively ("the hump" came out only during BB2), but what was happening in our country was a sad series of mania and depression. Another such "saw" can simply destroy us if we do not take up our minds. Not the West, I note, but we ourselves - in the inability to correctly formulate what is desired, to allocate and extract resources for this, to form an attractive image for a long time and not with one-step impudence and the dominance of tactics over strategy.
It's such a damn simple thing, but we still ride Groundhog Day over and over again.

[Knell wardenheart]

The totality of non-nuclear tools in quantity, quality and distribution along the fronts can create the preconditions for Tyson to have this “sharpening” of yours, with the greater probability, the more you create in him a feeling of an itchy threat in hand with cunning. So in the case of the BGU, some of these nuclear deterrents of yours may fall out of the equation from completely conventional weapons, and some from non-conventional ones. This is what is called the incomparability of potential - if in our case it is obvious that we can cause damage to the West exclusively with non-conventional weapons and in fairly predictable areas, then from the West the variety of options is much more impressive, as well as the ability to use our economic and industrial the potential to create new ones.
This was also indicated as "incomparability of potentials". In the fight against a multiple superior enemy, a sharp blow or seizing the initiative can solve the problems of separation, however, there is a limit to everything - and it is worth understanding that in the conditions of a "limited nuclear war" we will not be able to inflict critical damage on the West (after an exchange of strikes) due to the incomparability of our and Western resources (besides, we will also suffer damage). A liter of blood lost by you and Tyson is a different effect, and a different result, let's say so.
In the event of an unlimited nuclear war, we will not take preventive action, because an unlimited nuclear war, even with a partial retaliatory strike, will lead to the fact that the main potential of our industry and demography will be critically damaged, arable land is infected, the medium-term consequences will make the survival of our state in centralized form is unlikely. Even in the most optimistic scenario. So talking about a preemptive strike on our part is a bluff and a hypothetical, there are probably digital models that take into account how many maximum carriers we will have time to launch before NATO reacts, how many carriers NATO will have time to launch on the first day after the start of such a conflict, etc. This is what is holding us back and our preventive action. No one starts a war to die, everyone wants to win.

The dominance of the West in the industrial, economic and foreign policy terms creates such an illusion for them, the illusion of the POSSIBILITY of solving the problem in a potentially forceful or hybrid way, precisely relying on this set of advantages. We are still holding on to the nuclear straw, not trying to change other introductory deterrence equations. This is the fallacy of our planning horizons, the abilities of our elites and leaders. We don't look as far ahead as we should in today's world, but even worse, we haven't looked that way in the last 40-50 years. Instead of building our own alternative and comprehensive deterrence, we built some kind of game and all our "complex" eventually came down to "nuclear weapons" and focal missile defense, the large-scale production of which is doubtful for our current economy.

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Quote: Knell Wardenheart

The totality of non-nuclear tools in quantity, quality and distribution along the fronts can create the prerequisites for the fact that this "sharpening" of yours will not be with you, but with Tyson

Are you all about the conflict between Russia vs NATO + USA? This will not happen, read the Military Doctrine of the Russian Federation.

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

In the event of an unlimited nuclear war, we will not take preventive action because

Once again - read the Military Doctrine of the Russian Federation. This is not a document that is written simply "in order to be."

Your admiration for "partners" is obvious and does not cause sympathy in me personally.

[Paladin]

So many bukaf to write at the end -

this is not a problem of the "insidious west" for the most part, it is a problem that it is high time for us to take up our heads and build something strong, stable + for people. And stop already shaking the air how much in vain.

It is clear that the types of concepts change slightly, but it would be better if they wrote in the old fashioned way and is clearer to everyone that - We are so aggressive, we attacked the Tatars and Mongols, Poles, Napoleon and Hitler and we need to stop building submarines, missiles, tanks and give everything away people. Then everything will be stable and strong, and most importantly, a handshake. I even sobbed after reading how bad we are, how we scratch, how we don’t look, don’t think, and we don’t soar ...
The neighbor metaphor is good, but you don't seem to understand how much and to whom it refers. Try to pretend to this stubborn neighbor who not only preaches "liberal" nonsense and homosexuality, drags water from your well and steals potatoes from your garden, but also that he demands that this liberal homosexuality be in your house, and you he was also paid for it. And also try, for a change, to delve into the causes of the events that you have listed, maybe you will understand whose Anglo-Saxon ears stick out from there.
Although this is highly doubtful.

[Knell wardenheart]

Do you know why people go west from here? Not the first century, by the way.
Because in our country they only do what they "build", and they have already managed to "build" something.
Despite the fact that we already have more than a dozen million citizens tore their navels at a construction site, and "they" have a retired person who looks and lives like a person.
This is an occasion to think about what the hell are we doing wrong if we have so much under our feet and if we are so talented and awesome - or that the West is doing "this way".
Here, think about it, but without the patriotic "red noodles". We love to focus on the "terrible west", while we have consistently sucked and the west has had a steady increase in wealth until recently.

[Paladin]

Weak arguments and slightly overgrown with moss.
Well, who's going down? Galkins-Nevzorovs-Varlamovs, Skripal, Hodor and other bastards, IT specialists, engineers? Then a few questions:
1. It’s not a pity for the first ones, even if everyone dumps them there and stays there. But the last two categories, if they fell down, then who sold the "cartoons" four years ago, built a floating nuclear power plant, raised agriculture to the level of the first country exporting wheat?
2. Pensioners, well, yes, they look, some who do not stand in line with food stamps and if they live. Isn't that why they have 12% of pensioners in relation to the population, while we have 31%? And this is with their "advanced built" medicine and our "collapsed" one.
3. Why, if they were built and stable, they did everything right without tearing their navels, something went wrong recently, what was their growth based on and what did they build there? Maybe this is an occasion to think about what / on whom this growth of theirs was based? And why would their proper stability suddenly go to hell when they were pushed away from the nipple and the valve was closed? And mostly on their own.
So you think about it, only without the liberal "rainbow noodles", focus the defocused)))))))

[Knell wardenheart]

But the last two categories, if they fell down, then who sold the "cartoons" four years ago, built a floating nuclear power plant, raised agriculture to the level of the first country exporting wheat?

You're seeing the tip of the iceberg when it comes to who's gone. And the bottom of the iceberg in this case is what was NOT done because the specialists left. And now, by the slippage of import substitution, it is clear that just the same, very much has not been done.

2. Pensioners, well, yes, they look, some who do not stand in line with food stamps and if they live. Isn't that why they have 12% of pensioners in relation to the population, while we have 31%? And this is with their "advanced built" medicine and our "collapsed" one.

The specifics of our demographics have been known for a long time - and the question is what was last done to try to correct this (and when was it, if at all). You yourself have now outlined a frankly emergency situation - and? It arose at once, did the treacherous West bring it to us or what? No, it calmly arose and grew on its own, while the sun-faced ones looked at it with Olympian calmness, playing big geopolitics over and over again. Well, played out what to say! There was the USSR with its 290 million population, it became the Russian Federation with its 140 million. Whose jamb is this? Is it really the West's fault? Probably it was the West that kept Brezhnev and Co. before the "carriage races." Well, or then the West elevated the dying Andropov to power? Maybe the West planted after all this Gorbachev? Well, or probably the West in 1996 chose Yeltsin. Maybe it was the West that voted for Medvedev? All these people (and others) had the opportunity to rectify the situation - did they use it?

3. Why, if they were built and stable, they did everything right without tearing their navels, something went wrong recently, what was their growth based on and what did they build there? Maybe this is an occasion to think about what / on whom this growth of theirs was based?

Has it become terrible to live in Europe?) At the border, there is a line of people who want from there, thirsting for our citizenship? Maybe we stopped issuing citizenship to just anyone? No, everything is old.
I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the salary statistics for the EU countries and compare it with our salary, but not with these mythical "50-60k", but with what you are observing.
Did the EU live well 10 years ago? 20 years ago ? 30 years ago? 40 years ago? I will answer you - wonderful life. For at least 2 generations. Despite gays, crises, demonstrations, political turnover, migrants, "green distortions". Here's something worth thinking about - why for all this time we have only been flattened and sausage, and the EU has been increasing prosperity - despite the fact that in 1991 we had production and personnel and resources, despite the fact that we were sold technologies and equipment, which oil was expensive and we pumped gas, God forbid. And that until 2008 (17 years), at least nobody needed us, and this, by the way, is almost one generation. We have caught up with the standard of living at least Poland, Lord, my God? No. But there was not such a big difference between some Poles in the police department and the bulk of the USSR, the third economy of the planet at the time of the collapse. No, nope.

And the West is also to blame for this, huh? They run fast, like that?

[Paladin]

So many letters in order to state for the 100500th time the arguments of ten years ago, which have already stopped even smelling, graphomania detective.
You would at least bother to take care of the "specifics of demography" according to the latest censuses, before writing nonsense again. Well, just Fu, not an argument))

[AdAstra]

It is especially interesting when the level of agriculture is grain exports. Under the tsar, there was also export, and the peasants ate quinoa.

[Aleksandr7987]

Good day. Instead of tinsel of words, I recommend that you read the novel by the Russian author Sergei Anisimov "The day before the day after tomorrow" ... This work of art exhaustively describes what awaits a Russian person when Russian territories are captured by the troops of the united West ... Yes, this is a work of art, but this work correctly spells out the main rule of the modern war of annihilation: the loser pays for everything... And he pays not only with his wealth and lands, but also with his very life at the whim of the newly appeared "masters of life and death" - the occupiers of our land... We, as an ethnic group, are absolutely not needed by anyone from the axis of evil claiming our bowels and all other riches from our mother earth ...

[Knell wardenheart]

Just imagine how it would be possible to equip everything even worse with the available resources, but without hitting the irrational. You can’t) Meanwhile, we love to imagine how dudes surviving with families for a couple of minimum wages, someone else manages to enslave them, how they are “taken away from the bowels”, already long and firmly corporatized devils by whom and taken over the hill with giblets.
How much imagination do you need...
And yes, do not remember Hitler. Hitler was almost 80 years ago, then there were no computers either.

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Quote: Knell Wardenheart

dudes surviving with families for a couple of minimum wages, someone else manages to enslave, how they are "taken away from the subsoil", already long and firmly corporatized devils by whom and taken over the hill with giblets

Ah-ah-ah... propaganda just flows and drips...

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

don't mention Hitler. Hitler was almost 80 years ago, then there were no computers

How does that change what was said?

Quote: Aleksandr7987

loser pays for everything...

That's right... none. You are still a weak propagandist, probably from beginners.

[paul3390]

That is why - you need to start with a total cleansing of your newly-minted elites .. For with such hoopoes at the top - in principle, it is impossible to win a war with the West ..

[ivan2022]

Quote: Terenin

The West has never ceased to view Russia as its enemy and geopolitical adversary.

Well, what about us if Western politicians do not have enough brains.

Segregation of duties. The West does not have enough brains, and we, from a great mind, ruined our state in 1991 in peacetime. Putting it in order would be too simple a solution for such smart

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Quote: ivan2022

and we, from a great mind, ruined our state in 1991 in peacetime

Aha! Now I know whom the "Tatra" is rinsing here as "enemies of the communists."

But in general - it was the "enemies of the communists" who "ravaged the country", starting with Gorbachev. And the turn "we ruined" is the essence of a stupid agitation, designed to make everyone "feel complicity and be ashamed."

Avotvamfig, not complicity

[Korovin]

The article is complete nonsense.
For example. The number of US troops in Europe.
1990 - 290 thousand
1997 - 100 thousand.
2008 - 80 thousand.
2013 - 60 thousand.

In addition, such calculations are precisely Russophobia.
Conspiracy theorists completely deprive the Russian people of subjectivity.
Making a hostage of external influences and a conspiracy of internal enemies.

[Korovin]

Quote: Knell Wardenheart

razikov is 12 times weaker than the total GDP

Once every 40. To be exact

[Ross xnumx]

What is interesting is not that:

The West has never stopped viewing Russia as an adversary

I wonder how long in Russia they will be embarrassed to erect monuments to true patriots and clean up the names of historical figures, exchanging them for monuments to traitors, slanderers, Judas and simple greedy and vicious scoundrels?
For example, I don’t think that something should be reminded of EBN and Yegor Gaidar - they didn’t deserve it.

[nikvic46]

I understand that many did not bother to listen to the end. But it was mostly not about the West, but about us.

[Knell wardenheart]

It’s hard for me to seriously listen to a dude in whose films people storm military facilities with shovels and the characters of his performance strangle Stalin with a cake. For me, such personalities are not far from Uncle Ze with his trademark "playing the piano", and the fact that they are so smart in their glasses and ass to the icons mixed with telephones - in my eyes does not add to their empty speeches either authority or meaning.
The director should shoot a good zhraka for the townsfolk, and not pretend to be a beacon of sacred knowledge. Our whole society is crammed with such experts like Mikhalkov or ROG, who in their place frankly about nothing, but they love to chat and teach too. It's one thing when we do it, and it's quite another when people through whose hands billions flow.

[Sotskiy]

.... The European Union already feels it. Inflation in the eurozone in some countries has exceeded 20 percent, which calls into question the further viability of the euro economy if it opposes the Russian economy....

The author was probably too shy to add that Europe started having problems without raw material economy of the Russian Federation, the industrial economy of the Russian Federation, Europe does not need FIG. Greetings from the Soviet "galoshes".
And what is 20% inflation? Yes, we see it every day on price tags, we are used to it, and they remember the Novocherkassk strike in 1962 as exclusively "atrocities of the totalitarian regime", without going into cause and effect.
So nothing terrible will happen for the Europeans - they will stay in the 30-year-old skin of the inhabitants of the Russian Federation.

[AML]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

I can’t even imagine how to lace up the berets on my knees.

Easily. Get on someone's knees and lace up.
The idea that the comrade wanted to bring is understandable. The rest is tenth.

[Denis812]

God, does anyone else watch this junkie with glasses?
Overlaid with icons and sculptures and thinks that he can teach us something.
Poor.