High-ranking British officer: Russia will not accept defeat in Ukraine, and if it wins, it will move on

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In the Western media, more and more materials began to appear with reference to military experts, where they answer questions about the possible further development of events in Ukraine, given that Ukraine will lose part of its territories. If about a month ago, publications in most major Western media boiled down to the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were supposedly about to defeat Russia, now the assessments are becoming more sober.

So, in the British The Guardian, an article was published referring to a high-ranking officer of the British Royal Army. His name is not mentioned in the newspaper. It is noted that the officer talks about possible further events on the territory of Ukraine.



The British senior officer says that "there is an option to consider the state of affairs in Ukraine only as one of the stages of a long-term confrontation with Russia." According to him, the following situation arises: if we assume that Russia is defeated in Ukraine, then it will never accept this and will prepare for revenge; if Russia wins a victory in Ukraine, then it will not be limited to Ukraine and will go further.

The publication at the same time bears the telling title "Why the West can doom Ukraine to a slow suffocation." It is noted that the collective West is growing tired of the Ukrainian war.

The publication writes that the British government has a Tik-Tok-thinking. This is an option in which there is a tendency to satisfy curiosity instantly. But at the same time, there is no determination to act for the future, and this can lead to numerous victims in a protracted process.

The Guardian writes that “Western fatigue with Ukraine may result in a change of governments in a number of countries, and, accordingly, a change in policy towards Russia. Bulgaria is cited as an example, where the coalition resigned its powers and the country was again left without a government at such a difficult moment.

From the material:

The Bulgarian government was anti-Russian. And now, in the event of the arrival of new forces, Bulgaria can become an ally of Russia, while being in the EU.

The publication writes that a change of power in the United States is not excluded. It is said about the possibility of Trump and his team returning to power.
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  1. +27
    24 June 2022 19: 16
    Russia will win a victory in Ukraine, then it will not be limited to Ukraine and will go further

    If the impudent Saxons continue to bully Russia, then of course it will. It will just be forced to go to crush this infection. If the "civilized" settle down and stop poking a bear's den with a stick, then why should Russia "go further"? We don't need someone else's, but we'll take ours!
    1. +3
      24 June 2022 19: 19
      Chatting, not tossing bags. He blurted out, lit up and fell silent again. soldier
      1. +6
        24 June 2022 22: 20
        The Bulgarian government was anti-Russian. And now, in the event of the arrival of new forces, Bulgaria can become an ally of Russia

        And why do you need an ally who can stop being so dependent on which of the candidates is better at fooling the electorate?
        Here is China or Iran, if they sign the document, they will not refuse it after the next choice. You can have agreements with them.
        And with Europe it’s like that - buy and sell disposables.
        With England, and disposable is impossible - they will deceive.
        1. +1
          25 June 2022 02: 30
          With England, and disposable is impossible - they will deceive.
          INFECT....
    2. +16
      24 June 2022 19: 23
      Quote: Common sense
      If the impudent Saxons continue to bully Russia, then of course it will.

      There is already "without if", Britain must receive an answer, for all its "tricks", with Berezovsky, Litvinenko, the Skripals ... for outrages in Ukraine
      1. +13
        24 June 2022 19: 41
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Common sense
        If the impudent Saxons continue to bully Russia, then of course it will.

        There is already "without if", Britain must receive an answer, for all its "tricks", with Berezovsky, Litvinenko, the Skripals ... for outrages in Ukraine

        I agree. Almost in the first place. No fuss, no problem.
      2. +3
        24 June 2022 20: 22
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Common sense
        If the impudent Saxons continue to bully Russia, then of course it will.

        There is already "without if", Britain must receive an answer, for all its "tricks", with Berezovsky, Litvinenko, the Skripals ... for outrages in Ukraine

        not rational, troublesome and while there is no reason, you can support Ireland with everything you need, but go to them - you might think there is nothing else to do
        1. +10
          24 June 2022 20: 26
          Quote: poquello
          you can support Ireland with everything you need

          This is the same ANSWER, so I will say more. It's time to support the freedom-loving people of Scotland ... in their just aspirations to build an independent state, as well as Spain in its claims to Gibraltar, and Argentina to the Maldvins ...
          Brits think they can't have problems? in vain
          1. +2
            24 June 2022 21: 01
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: poquello
            you can support Ireland with everything you need

            It's the same ANSWER

            yes, little by little
            Quote: svp67
            Spain in claim to Gibraltar

            but this is not necessary, the Catalans must be supported, Spain, with the zeal of the Tri-Baltic extinctions, was ready to supply tanks to the dill if they had not told her "tsyts"
          2. +2
            24 June 2022 21: 15
            freedom-loving people of Scotland.
            Without subsidies from London (40 billion pounds a year), it will live like in Albania, only there will still not be heat there. And do they need it?
            1. +5
              24 June 2022 23: 33
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              Without subsidies from London (40 billion pounds a year) will live like in Albania,

              Somewhere I have already heard this ... Oh, yes, about the "subsidized" Donbass, and then it turns out that without Donbass, Ukraine cannot even pay anything, since there is no money, it turns out that Donbass does not pay taxes ...
              1. 0
                25 June 2022 09: 32
                without Donbass Ukraine
                England is not Ukraine from the word at all - 56 million people and its own GDP of 1.86 trillion pounds.
          3. +3
            24 June 2022 21: 48
            Moreover, Argentina has expressed a desire to become a full member of the BRICS... Such a statement was made by Argentine President Alberto Fernandez, his words are quoted by TASS at the BRICS+ meeting...
            https://russian.rt.com/world/news/1018450-argentina-briks-chlenstvo
      3. +2
        25 June 2022 02: 09
        Britain has long been on its own does not decide anything. If the United States gives a command like "here let's do it yourself" they can do something. And so it is a long time ago a dog on a leash. Here you need to deal with the owner, cunningly and methodically, and the dog without a master will die of hunger itself.
        1. +1
          25 June 2022 11: 13
          By the treaties of September 1940 and March 1941 between the USA and Great Britain, the latter actually became a colony of the USA, transferring a significant part of its territories under the control of American administrations and in return receiving weapons, military equipment and ships for waging war with Germany. Since then, Great Britain has been deprived of the right to conduct an independent policy and economy.
        2. 0
          26 June 2022 11: 36
          The late George Michael used to sing about Tony Blair while running errands for the Fashington administration. Their role is to be a dog.
          https://youtu.be/ABhZQ_VRbsQ
    3. +4
      24 June 2022 19: 36
      Quote: Common sense
      calm down and stop poking a bear's den with a stick, then why should Russia "go further"?
      They won't stop poking. They have Poland next in line with sprats. Well, then we will have to solve the age-old impudent Saxon question once and for all. request And the waves will quietly roll over the "Great English" shoal.
      1. +1
        24 June 2022 21: 51
        Two "Poseidons" or one is enough? laughing
    4. +1
      25 June 2022 01: 29
      That's for sure. The arrogant Saxons will not accept the defeat of Ukraine, and it’s just interesting who they will appoint next “for slaughter”.
      1. 0
        25 June 2022 14: 52
        Quote: mavrus
        and just wondering who they will appoint next "to the slaughter."

        I wrote, read carefully P-O-L-L-Sh-A. There is Russophobia, there is nationalism, there are historical territorial claims, resentment of the loser against the lucky one. Well, there is potential, this is not a lousy environment, and they are lured by the USA and England.
        1. 0
          25 June 2022 16: 11
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          POLAND. There is Russophobia, there is nationalism, there are historical territorial claims, resentment of the loser against the lucky one. Well, there is potential, this is not a lousy environment, and they are lured by the USA and England

          And there are already more than 2 million Ukrainian citizens there. In the event of the defeat of the Ukrainians, there will be from 10 to 15 million of them, and these are skilled workers for the rear and military men motivated by anger for the front. This will add potential to the Poles. For the British, P-O-L-L-Sh-A is a good option, but for Russians it’s not a fact?
  2. +8
    24 June 2022 19: 17
    How many idiots are in small Britain, it is incomprehensible to the mind.
    1. 0
      24 June 2022 21: 52
      Incest, sir...
  3. +5
    24 June 2022 19: 17
    No one will take away victory from the Russian army. The fifth column will fail. Zelensky will fall and Ukraine will return to the Great Mother Russia.
    1. +2
      24 June 2022 20: 24
      Quote from Carlos Sala
      Ukraine will return to the Great Mother Russia.

      you don’t need to give a boob often, you yourself
      1. +5
        24 June 2022 20: 50
        This is it, for sure, on your own. I have my own claims to them, and a number of Crimeans too. Why didn't you climb with us? I am against dumping money into them.
        1. +1
          24 June 2022 21: 06
          Quote: Alexander Salenko
          This is it, for sure, on your own. I have my own claims to them, and a number of Crimeans too. Why didn't you climb with us? I am against dumping money into them.

          it will still be necessary to finance, but in such a way that they reach self-sufficiency as quickly as possible
      2. 0
        25 June 2022 14: 56
        Quote: poquello
        you don’t need to give a boob often, you yourself

        Yes, those who wish have already had a bite, "closed for registration" feel
  4. +4
    24 June 2022 19: 20
    High-ranking British officer: Russia will not accept defeat in Ukraine, and if it wins, it will move on
    . Another fortune-teller from impudent ... not interesting.
  5. +1
    24 June 2022 19: 22
    As one dude said. Like Jason Statham.
    - "It is difficult to drive a Russian bear out of the den, but if it works out, then it is difficult to drive it back."
    1. +3
      24 June 2022 19: 29
      Quote: salavat
      As one dude said. Like Jason Statham.
      - "It is difficult to drive a Russian bear out of the den, but if it works out, then it is difficult to drive it back."

      So it was said at least 200 years before Statham ...
    2. +6
      24 June 2022 22: 12
      A little wrong. "I know about a dozen ways to drive a bear out of its den, but not a single one to drive it back...".
  6. +3
    24 June 2022 19: 26
    High-ranking British officer: Russia will not accept defeat in Ukraine, and if it wins, it will move on

    If the limitrophes are supported by the Anglo-Saxon anti-Russian scheme and will bark at Russia, then - YES.
  7. +2
    24 June 2022 19: 29
    if Russia wins in Ukraine

    not IF but WHEN
    1. 0
      24 June 2022 22: 19
      From childhood, the Spartans were taught to speak briefly and to the point. The historian Xenophon wrote that one can quickly wait for a word from a marble statue than from a young Spartan.

      The manner of expressing himself briefly and clearly began to be called conciseness in Greece, since Sparta was in the region of Laconia.

      An illustrative example of brevity is associated with the Macedonian king Philip II, the father of Alexander the Great. In a letter addressed to Sparta, he wrote:

      “I advise you to surrender immediately, because if my army enters your lands, I will destroy your gardens, enslave people and destroy the city.”

      The Spartans replied shortly:

      "If a".
      1. -1
        24 June 2022 22: 21
        A small inaccuracy that nullifies the entire passage ...
        because, ̶e̶s̶l̶i̶ WHEN my army enters
        1. -1
          25 June 2022 00: 29
          I agree. But, it would be better if you tell about this inaccuracy not to me, but to the authors of this dialogue ... I did not correct the syntax, the spelling too ... request
  8. +2
    24 June 2022 19: 31
    It will not be limited to Ukraine and will go further.

    While this is not required, but they can get up to a decent slap in the face.
  9. +3
    24 June 2022 19: 38
    And I have a question.
    What will happen after defeat of the Armed Forces?
    When/if it happens.
    To me, two things are clear.
    1) Among the Ukrainian elites, there was no strength on which Russia could rely (not to mention the ability of these same elites to fulfill agreements).
    2) The detachment of forces involved may be enough to defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but it is absolutely not enough to control the entire territory of Ukraine.
    1. +5
      24 June 2022 20: 35
      Deben poner un gobierno amigo en el poder, que los rusos de Ucrania purguen a sus propios traidores, porque es lo que son, traidores a su raza.
    2. 0
      24 June 2022 20: 55
      Good questions, I love that. looks like a smart person.
      But to question number one, new elites may appear. in figs we need the old ones, which they frankly threw. Neither Medvedchuk, whom I respected, nor Muraev are needed in figs, if anyone survives there, it’s Tsarev and Bondarenko, to whom I treat myself the same way. But they will have to deal with us, there is Oleinik, but he is old.
      Therefore, after such a reboot, you can simply reformat everything. All of Ukraine will be controlled by the Ukrainians themselves, you should not think that there are none of them, but were there in Crimea?
      1. 0
        24 June 2022 23: 43
        There have never been Ukrainians in Crimea. Even at 54, when Khrushchev (the earth was glassy to him) "gave" him to the Ukrainian SSR, Crimea has always been not only "pro-Russian", but simply Russian. Yes, Ukrainians made up part of the population there - nothing more. As well as other nationalities. But Crimea has never been Ukrainian. They tried to introduce this “mova”, children in kindergartens were dressed in “embroidered shirts” by order of order ... To no avail ... They abandoned this stupid idea. Moreover, they lived in the same state - but what's the difference, like ... So, if you don’t know this topic thoroughly, you don’t have to refer to Crimea when talking about Ukraine. Especially - about its Western part.
        By the way. Do you know what the word "french" means? I think not (I once talked about this on one of the branches). Google it - you will learn a lot of interesting things. I recognized it from a letter from my classmate who served as an "urgent" near Ivano-Frankivsk (DMB 77-79). This topic was hushed up in the USSR, so I highly recommend it ... The Donetsk people did not just take up arms, I assure you ...
        1. 0
          25 June 2022 07: 22
          There is about a third of Ukrainian blood among the Slavic population, but there has never been Ukrainianness, in any case, I have never seen it except superficial, i.e. introduced.
          1. 0
            25 June 2022 08: 02
            Good morning. Brought from where? From Galicia? On the "trains of friendship"? Horses from the Maidan?
            1. 0
              25 June 2022 08: 07
              Good, I don’t think Galicians are Ukrainians, they are a different people, well, actually, what is the name of it, I said.
      2. 0
        25 June 2022 00: 00
        The second thing that speaks of your ignorance of this topic is your words about Medvedchuk... Perhaps due to age, or for other reasons - I do not presume to judge. I will just give you one quote from the letter, in fragments, because It's very big and emotional.
        1. 0
          25 June 2022 07: 23
          Well, what's my age? What is it that I can’t understand at 43, what they understand, say, at 63? And I will read the letter.
      3. +2
        25 June 2022 00: 15
        “Worse than an enemy”: a captive militiaman speaks about Medvedchuk and his participation in the fate of Donbass
        18.04.2022
        ... “Both we and the authorities of Donbass are very ‘thankful’ to Medvedchuk for organizing the exchange of detainees over the past few years and for resolving other humanitarian issues.

        Well, since Peskov touched upon Medvedchuk's participation in the exchange of prisoners, I will say a few words on the subject as a former prisoner.

        When we were brought after the exchange on December 29.12.2019, XNUMX, to the filtration point, the role of which was performed by one of the Donetsk hospitals, we drew attention to the rather strange behavior of the medical staff. They looked at us with fear and suspicion.

        A week later, they themselves spoke to us and said: “Guys, you are so well-mannered, but in 2017 they also brought exchanges to us, we had this here: there are drug addicts, and brawls with fights that had to be pacified in the middle of the night by the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs , and even attempted rape of a nurse.”

        To which we, NOT surprised, replied: “Girls, this time they didn’t bring criminals to you, they brought real terrorists to you. You have nothing to fear. We are ours!“
        ... The dill did not want to give away the real underground fighters, saboteurs, and militias. And in every way they sabotaged their inclusion in the exchange lists.

        At the same time demanding that they be given those in whom they are interested. An exchange is always a bargain. Will fight. And compromises. And politics.

        Viktor Medvedchuk was the main negotiator. And it was he who pushed through the exchange on Ukronazi terms. Why? I do not know exactly.
        But I can assume that he, a representative of one of the poles of the Ukronazi consensus, was interested not to exchange people who seriously fought for Novorossia, and also saw in the exchange, first of all, political dividends for himself and his partner Poroshenko, who received the maximum PR from that exchange. bonuses. And therefore, he put pressure on the negotiating group of the Russian Federation and the LDNR in every possible way, demanding that the exchange be carried out as soon as possible and accept the conditions of the Ukronazis.

        Therefore, along with some of our political prisoners, underground fighters and militias who were also there, absolutely random (or non-random for the SBU) people, agents, just criminals who had nothing to do with the anti-Nazi resistance in the former Ukraine were included in the exchange.

        And Medvedchuk succeeded. The exchange took place on the terms of dill. Everyone is happy. And we sat out 2,2 years until the next big exchange. Although they could spend these 2,2 years on the war against Ukronazism or work for Russia.
        But I have no complaints about Medvedchuk. None. Why? Just because I can't have claims against the enemy. There is no demand from the enemy.

        But Medvedchuk was precisely the enemy. He was a representative of the Ukronazi consensus. Always. Doubt? Listen to 37 hours of recordings of his conversations.

        It was Medvedchuk who was the person who buried the Novorossiya project. It was Medvedchuk and Zurabov who were the people who convinced the Russian establishment to recognize Poroshenko as the president of Ukraine, and thereby legalize and legitimize the Ukronazi junta. It was Medvedchuk who pushed through the Minsk agreements and was their main beneficiary from Ukraine.

        It was Medvedchuk who spent years misleading the Kremlin that the Ukronazi state could be pacified by political measures. Thanks to this, the Ukronazis cleared Novorossia of pro-Russian forces, reorganized the Armed Forces of Ukraine and carefully prepared for war, the consequences of which we feel now, when we are overcoming with great blood what could have been solved in 2014 with small forces and almost without bloodshed.
        Medvedchuk is our enemy.

        More precisely, worse than the enemy - he is a harmful parasite that got under the skin and parasitized on the pro-Russian agenda, making us weaker and the Ukronazis stronger.”
        1. 0
          25 June 2022 06: 27
          I will just give you one quote from the letter, in fragments, because It's very big and emotional.

          Greetings brother!
          An interesting letter, I have not met or read before. I agree with you about Medvedchuk, he is a hidden enemy. Personally, I like Tsarev the most.
          All the best!
          hi
          1. +1
            25 June 2022 08: 26
            Hello brother!
            I took it from the resource "Russian Spring". I constantly read news, reports there ... after my nephew, Colonel OMON, spent the third month THERE with his guys ... Well, it’s not Konashenkov to listen to ...
            And all the best to you, dear. Good luck!
    3. +2
      24 June 2022 21: 34
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      2) The detachment of forces involved may be enough to defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but it is absolutely not enough to control the entire territory of Ukraine.

      you have a strange opinion, good experts on DRGs and gangs in the Russian Federation will sort it out, and the people will live much more freely than under the sniffed Jewish fascists, the bulk of it will not make sense to support dill
  10. 0
    24 June 2022 19: 39
    More sanctions are needed, and winter is coming soon.
  11. +1
    24 June 2022 19: 39
    I don't recognize the high-ranking British officer: the assumption that "Russia will move on" precludes the assumption of defeat.
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  13. +1
    24 June 2022 19: 45
    if we assume that Russia in Ukraine will be defeated
    if we assume that Russia in Ukraine will be defeated
    Russia will never be defeated. this officer, although a high-ranking one, does not know history at all.
  14. +1
    24 June 2022 19: 54
    Britain attended to the change of government in Europe. This is something new. However, they start to panic.
  15. -1
    24 June 2022 20: 03
    High-ranking British d.u.r.a.k. officer and provocateur sad
  16. +1
    24 June 2022 20: 03
    Let any government come to the world, these countries will now always be fascist accomplices and they will never be washed off.
    1. 0
      24 June 2022 22: 39
      And they don't need it. Do you think they are concerned about it? Not at all ... They have been hatching plans for the destruction of Russia, and Russians in general, for decades, if not more ...
      Here are some quotes from government officials, not some officer.
      “It is not true that all people are people. Russians are not people. These are alien creatures… They are very mean people,” wrote Stanford University professor Robert Conquest in 1984 in his book What to Do If the Russians Come? Survival Guide.

      An ardent Russophobe, a Jew of Polish origin, Zbigniew Brzezinski, expressed himself even more frankly...
      - "The New World Order will be built against Russia, on the ruins of Russia and at the expense of Russia."
  17. +1
    24 June 2022 20: 46
    English analysts are like English scientists. A lot of words and nothing to the point, all the analytics are in the explanatory mood with a probability of 50%. Maybe, maybe not.
  18. +2
    24 June 2022 20: 47
    Is this a paradox so beloved by the impudent Saxons?))) If you carefully read the title of the article, then Russia will not stop anyway)))
  19. 0
    24 June 2022 20: 47
    High-ranking British officer: Russia will not accept defeat in Ukraine, and if it wins, it will move on

    So smart" !!! wassat
    What defeat? fool
    Where to go? fool
    De bi ly!!!
  20. +1
    24 June 2022 21: 00
    Russia will not accept defeat in Ukraine, and if it wins, it will move on

    That is, the west has no way out soldier
  21. +1
    24 June 2022 21: 10
    if... go further

    Yes, let's go further, this time to these creatures - this Anglo-Syktsun viper must be destroyed!
  22. +1
    24 June 2022 21: 29
    P @ fucking island must die
  23. +1
    24 June 2022 22: 37
    you, your honor!
    We are peaceful, quiet and kind people ... until we are offended!
  24. 0
    24 June 2022 23: 05
    In London, we have not yet written on the walls of the Tower wassat
  25. 0
    24 June 2022 23: 24
    Well, what the hell...
    Russia has a small army with a record length of the border, there are so many undeveloped lands of its own that the whole of Europe can be sheltered - what are the motives for war, except for defensive ones?
    However, Poland and the Baltics may want to play Ukraine, but I doubt that they will have such a desire if the war ends successfully for us.
  26. 0
    25 June 2022 00: 09
    Whose mill is he pouring water on and why?
    we know our own problems.
    Hunchbacked: it seems to us that you are a mishandled Cossack.
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  28. 0
    25 June 2022 02: 41
    Okay okay it's all blah blah. There is a royal dynasty in England and this gang rules the show. They want us to close our eyes to the real world and what it consists of. Change the royal family and America will sit on the splits. ))
  29. 0
    25 June 2022 05: 39
    The Bulgarian government was anti-Russian. And now, in the event of the arrival of new forces, Bulgaria can become an ally of Russia, while being in the EU.
    The publication writes that a change of power in the United States is not excluded. It is said about the possibility of Trump and his team returning to power.

    Indeed, for many governments, the deterioration of the economic situation of countries due to sanctions against Russia and unrestrained assistance to Ukraine may come back to haunt the change of power. Before thoughtlessly playing along with the United States, they had to think about their own future.
  30. -1
    25 June 2022 11: 47
    They can talk about anything, so that oil prices do not fall.
  31. 0
    25 June 2022 12: 45
    Whose cow is mooing? You might think that a nasty Englishwoman will put up with the fact if Russia wins ... AND GREAT Russia WILL ALWAYS WIN IN ANY CASE ... Let them not even doubt in small Britain and the USA ... The opposite will not wait in any case ... Russians with mother's milk receive the SCIENCE OF WIN from INVINCIBLE A.V.SUVOROV....
  32. +1
    25 June 2022 13: 01
    "Russia will not accept defeat in Ukraine"
    Russia will not allow this.
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  34. 0
    25 June 2022 13: 25
    If about a month ago, publications in most major Western media boiled down to the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were supposedly about to defeat Russia, now the assessments are becoming more sober.


    Awareness "who am I? where am I?" comes as the effect on the brain of alcohol and drugs ends and, as well, strikes in various immodest places ...
  35. 0
    25 June 2022 14: 46
    Gentlemen, you have not yet won and are already changing the world. So why are we better than them? What is still yours and what you take. Since you yourself destroyed the USSR and it can no longer be restored.
  36. 0
    25 June 2022 15: 30
    The publication writes that a change of power in the United States is not excluded. It is said about the possibility of Trump and his team returning to power.

    Anything can be expected from Trump. From denial of funding to open confrontation on the territory of Ukraine.
  37. 0
    11 August 2022 15: 23
    What defeat is he... raving about? Brit, as always, is talking nonsense, as a "high-ranking" ...)