A special train "Volga" of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation operates in the zone of the special operation

Various technical means of the Russian Armed Forces are involved in the zone of the special military operation. Among other things, this is military railway equipment. In particular, a special Volga train is used.

The main purpose of this special train is connected with the restoration of railway tracks, mine clearance, and engineering reconnaissance.

In fact, the Volga is an armored train. Its application is demonstrated by the Russian Ministry of Defense.

As part of an armored train - a protected platform with weapons that are used by personnel for the protection and defense of a railway vehicle. With their help, enemy attacks are repelled, and a fire defeat is inflicted on him.

One of the weapons is the ZU-23 anti-aircraft gun.

Also equipped with protected positions for shooters, shelters for other members of the personnel.

The special train on the route of its movement is accompanied by an army aviation. In the event of an enemy being detected, information is exchanged between the crews of helicopters and the special Volga train. Data on the possible destruction of the railway track is also transmitted.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

The experience of a special operation in Chechnya came in handy. And the presence of a bepo from the 60s in Transbaikalia. Good luck to you, military railway workers.

[smart ass]

ZhDV - brutal landing troops

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

In fact, the Volga is an armored train.

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- We are peaceful people, but our armored train ...
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[Mouse]

No longer on the siding...

[Foundling]

SchA ZUShki all khimarsy will kill. Maybe you shouldn’t advertise such prodigies in 2022? They just neighed over the armored crafts of the ukrov and on you.

[Cheshire]

It's easy and fun to laugh on a cozy sofa, criticizing stupid, advertising "wunderwomen" ....
One of the minuses is mine.

[Foundling]

A minus will not change reality whether you like it or not.

[Evil 55]

ZU 23-2 in the SVO is used to destroy UAVs .. And there is no better weapon for this ..

[Foundling]

You would be interested in the ceiling of the same bayraktar. ZU 23 has long been no air defense from the word at all. There is nothing in this structure that modern strike drones will get. But he may well abuse the locomotive

[Evil 55]

Perhaps you should talk to servicemen who have been "on potatoes" before operating on the tactical and technical data of the UAV ..

[Foundling]

Data on the performance characteristics of drones and ZU-23 is no secret to anyone. As well as the impossibility of using the Zu-23 against attack drones. Will not get.

[Aleks2048]

Look how Chapaeva and VO woke up! Give them a cart too, with Anka the machine-gunner. I agree that such a monster can and is needed to transport any super-valuable goods, but in general it is an anachronism and a mass grave. And the goods in it, by default, cannot be exclusively for military purposes. And it’s even inconvenient to talk about the medical role of such a thing ... There are medical institutions where you need to supply normal equipment. There is a transport aircraft for transportation of emergency patients. And given the fact that, according to the words of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, we have almost no losses in personnel, then the medical train is an obvious excess.

[Winnie76]

Quote: Foundling

SchA ZUShki all khimarsy will kill. Maybe you shouldn’t advertise such prodigies in 2022?

Engineering reconnaissance, track restoration. It was necessary to pile up Tornado, TOS and Peresvet?

[Negruz]

Himars can kill the infantry, but this does not mean that it is necessary to hide the infantry ...

[Amin_vivec]

of course, after all, he is needed for this - the system of himars cuts and hits with ZUShki from both sides.
Is that how you imagine using an armored train?
Russians were told in white - mine clearing and work in the rear for supplies.

[Foundling]

By the way, during the Great Patriotic War, armored trains were much more secure. And here it’s just the dream of a sniper and a grenade launcher of an enemy drg rolling slowly. The turntable will not hang permanently over it.

[Evil 55]

The method of using BP in the Second World War and in modern NWO is completely different .. So you should not interfere with cutlets with flies ..

[Mikhail Maslov]

With our railway network, it has long been necessary to adopt protected railway rolling stock, the dimensions of any equipment are acceptable, that's modularity, simply and quickly.

[Flooding]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

With our railway network, it has long been necessary to adopt protected railway rolling stock, the dimensions of any equipment are acceptable, that's modularity, simply and quickly.

Develop, introduce into production, occupy factory capacities with it.
And all for what?
A very vulnerable, weakly protected, low-maneuverable combat unit with limited use.
Any damage to the tracks turns the train into a stationary target.

If such trains are needed, then in small numbers in limited theaters of action.
And the article absolutely correctly indicates the main task of such a train - the protected transportation of goods.
This is where the modularity of the train is needed and important.
Hitch at least freight wagons, at least staff cars.

And, by the way, the second main function of an armored train in the conditions of hostilities is to serve as a mobile repair base for damaged tracks.

And for control and anti-sabotage protection, it is more expedient to use armored tires.

[Mikhail Maslov]

That's right, engineering reconnaissance, security and escort, medical equipment, a food echelon and a lot of things. No one calls for sending to the front line. For example, "Rosseti" mobile teams drive armored cars from "Gaz" and rightly so.

[Flooding]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

engineering intelligence

It is optimal to use less noticeable and more mobile, cheap and economical armored tires.

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

medical equipment

Mobile hospitals used to be very much in demand.
I think it's not so important now.
With the current level of development of military medicine in particular and the network of medical institutions in the European part of the country in general.
Moreover, the sanitary / medical trains should not have signs of paramilitary equipment.

[Mikhail Maslov]

Why were we standing out of passenger cars for the slightly wounded and a mortuary freezer. Everything is just there, although not deep, but the rear.

[Flooding]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

Why were we standing out of passenger cars for the lightly wounded and a mortuary freezer

Maybe. I do not know.
But that has nothing to do with the special train in question.
The hospital train must be unarmed in order to avoid being mistaken for a military one by the enemy.

[Mikhail Maslov]

The trolley is very limited in terms of carrying capacity and the number of placement of both weapons and personnel. The trolley will not work unequivocally. The whole point is flexibility, today is intelligence, tomorrow construction equipment, etc., will be put on the same platforms, cheap and cheerful.

[Flooding]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

Handcar, severely limited in terms of carrying capacity and the number of placement of both weapons and personnel

What kind of weapons and what number of crew or troops are needed to reconnoitre the state of communications?
Actually, for this they were invented at one time.

[Mikhail Maslov]

You decide, then you need an armored railcar, or almost an armored train from the times of VO. There is a task, the military railway solve this problem in this way with the help of armed, armored platforms, which means there is a need for this. I still don’t understand what you want .

[Flooding]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

You decide, then you need an armored railcar, or almost an armored train from the times of VO.

You confused me with someone else.
Read the comments more carefully.

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

What do you want, I did not understand.

Peaceful skies and justice throughout the world.
Regarding the issue under discussion, my point of view is that the time of armored trains has sunk into oblivion.
And if such paramilitary units can solve some limited tasks, then definitely not as a combat unit, but only as auxiliary equipment for supplying troops and repair work.
Hence the modified technical appearance and composition of weapons in comparison with the armored trains of the first and second world wars.

[Mikhail Maslov]

Yes, I was wrong, I apologize.

[Foundling]

And how does this thing "guard" the transportation of goods? Derailed with a cart with a zushka, that without is the same. And so above it the turntable protects everything better. LS shtol nowhere to go?

[Flooding]

Quote: Foundling

how does this thing "guard" the transport of goods? Derailed with a trolley with a zushka, that without it is the same

Providing immunity, physical protection 24/7 and a special mode of movement.
Security does not mean complete security.
After all, no support is capable of guaranteeing it.
Including the turntable.

[Foundling]

So I'm talking about the same. What for guys on the platform to expose targets? Any drg will comb its hands straight from the desire to fashion from NLAVA or snipers

[Flooding]

Quote: Foundling

Any drg will comb its hands straight from the desire to fashion from NLAVA or snipers

bashi-bazouks from the Ukrainian DRGs will take no less joy to fire at any Russian train, regardless of its affiliation with the Armed Forces.

[Foundling]

Who argues. But there are no people in sight at least. Losses are less.

[Foundling]

This platform is not at all protected from anti-tank systems, or from a mine, or from a tank on the tracks. And the elusive cavalrymen are unlikely to chase the train and jump on the go

[Flooding]

Quote: Foundling

cavalrymen from the elusive ones are unlikely to chase the train and jump on the go

I don't remember a scene like this from a long time ago.
In the movie "Sixth" it definitely was.

[Foundling]

Well, with this, and vohra will cope

[Cowbra]

Tai and the devil with him, Wagner plays. You know that there are no PMCs anymore. Onions, for example, I don’t know from Tua, there is a website. And I crossed paths with these oilmen. No, they don't wear glasses

[Dart]

Que ?? the day has just started.....

[rocket757]

A special train "Volga" of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation operates in the zone of the special operation

Too big a target, if anything ... only in the rear, away from the enemy's long-range artillery systems.

[riwas]

The main purpose of this special train is connected with the restoration of railway tracks, mine clearance, and engineering reconnaissance.

I saw a report about him. They said that one of the applications is the transportation of military and civilian cargo under protection.

[2 Level Advisor]

yes, so-so protection .. they hit the ATGM diesel locomotive from a couple of kilometers and what will it do? you can think of where to use it .. but only a dubious effect .. at least they put mortars, or rather a t-62 on the platform .. You can’t even call Zushki even fire support ..

[kot423]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Zushki can’t even be called fire support

Well, not at all a fact ... This "mower" can do a lot of bad things, especially when targeting from turntables.

[2 Level Advisor]

just imagine, forest belts in the direction of travel .. several anti-tank systems .. 1 shot at a diesel locomotive so that the train gets up and a couple of snipers take out undisguised calculations of the memory .. the train will not leave for shelter .. (we exclude the case when the enemy tank left - this is generally a "pipe" then) what is the difference from a conventional train? a turntable is power .. but it will cover an ordinary train .. and the control center from the turntable to the calculation of the memory .. well .. this is hardly something .. do you think the gunner has a direct communication channel with the helicopter? yes, they generally don’t have a radio station in their ear .. in theory, yes, everything is possible .. in practice, it’s not .. that’s why I’m writing, if there’s a support train, at least put a couple of tanks behind the armor plates .. mortars .. UAVs. and so it's more likely to be ..

[Mikhail Maslov]

A stationary radio station on a diesel locomotive, groups operating from an armored train in any case with communication, at least for shunting work, and who told you that there are no Eagles or a mortar? Not everything can be shown and told

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

A stationary radio station on a diesel locomotive, groups operating from an armored train in any case with communication, at least for shunting work, and who told you that there are no Eagles or a mortar? Not everything can be shown and told

no .. in general there is a connection without a doubt. the shooter doesn’t have ZUShka with a helicopter .. about showing .. you know Mikhail .. this is an armored train of the railway troops, after all, and not a nuclear submarine of the Navy .. I doubt the presence of secret weapons on it, the mortar is definitely not a secret weapon .. I not against an armored train as such, but this particular one is some kind of weakly armed .. in the Second World War, the trains were stronger ..

[Mikhail Maslov]

In your opinion, collectors should ride in a tank and with aviation cover?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Mikhail Maslov

In your opinion, collectors should ride in a tank and with aviation cover?

In a war zone, where the enemy is roaming around the rear even on armor? Undoubtedly.
Or have you forgotten how recently the RG, which became the rear guard troops, reported on the battle with the enemy armored group and on the detection and seizure of heavy weapons?

[Mikhail Maslov]

Questions not for me, but for the Ministry of Defense, why even at the forefront the equipment is not protected, but you tell me theories. Today we were ambushed by border guards.

[Arkady007]

If there is a benefit, this is good, but somehow I hardly perceive the benefits of his movements.

[Tatar 174]

Well, if they use it, then there is a benefit.

[UAZ 452]

So the command of the railway troops also needs to report that they are fighting.

[Mikhail Maslov]

The railway network will still have to be restored, so the guys are conducting reconnaissance for future work, while performing related tasks. Well, don’t send them on foot on an open embankment for long distances, and even with weapons and tools. Just turn on your brains.

[avia12005]

It would be desirable to produce several armored trains in an industrial way, and not to sandbag ordinary platforms. Put tanks, Strela-10, introduce ATGMs and MANPADS into the kit. And so it turns out crafts, blinded from what was.

[Siberian54]

You forgot - radar and drones - cheaper than an attack helicopter

[kor1vet1974]

This train has a highly specialized purpose, for specific tasks. It should not be taken as an armored train of the Civil and Great Patriotic Wars.

[Aleksandr Ivanov]

I don’t know who called this parody an armored train. CHSV pulled up to an unimaginable height. Unfortunate site with a canopy from the rain. Which gives a sense of security. "Armor" was not? To put it on the site. The calculation of the ZPU is not covered ... In addition to the mat on the leadership of the railway troops, there is nothing. Lyapili from what was? ...
The experience of the Second World War shows that the site should be armored, not armored. ...
Having such material resources in warehouses, to make such a monster ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Alexander Ivanov

Unfortunate site with a canopy from the rain. Which gives a sense of security. "Armor" was not? To put on the site.

Judging by the previous video about armored trains in the NVO zone, the ZhDV has only container iron and sleepers. But at least there was a BMP-2 on one of the platforms.

[Foundling]

Until 1953, armored trains served in Western Ukraine on patrolling railways in connection with the frequent attacks of UPA units on railway facilities.

However, the rapid development of tank forces and military aviation, which took place during the Second World War, sharply reduced the importance of armored trains. By a decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR of February 4, 1958, further development of railway artillery systems was discontinued. By the end of the fifties, not a single armored train remained in service with the USSR.

[kamakama]

No offense, but it looks like a century-old improvisation. Regimental gun on an open platform and that's all. Sandbags complete the picture

Even in WWII they made more solid and sheltered structures
[Center]

[Altmann]

The idea is very good and necessary. Armored trains proved to be on the side of the Reds and Greens during the Civil War? Armored trains terrified even the regular units of the German and Austro-Hungarian armies. It's just that an armored train belongs to the war. Let's look further.

[Li17]

Again homemade, and worse compared to the "nightingale robber" on which I had to ride in Chechnya, at least there was an armored cap. And then they threw bags on the platforms ... And where is the famous armored train, which we were promised even then from the eastern district? There even according to rumors there was a T-80 tank, which could move out and all that? It's a shame to look at this railway cart! And they filmed it on video!

[Alexey Volga]

The great-grandchildren of glorious warriors are again defending Russia on armored trains as they were 100 years ago.