Happy anniversary, our dear "Crocodile"!

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As an epigraph to this article, I want to take the words of my former neighbor, who has already left us, artillery lieutenant colonel Nikolai Semenovich Savinov. We often talked with him like a neighbor, and one day we started talking about music.

“Yes… nonsense (approximate translation) your music. And ours. That's when you sit for five hours on the road under the pressure of dushmans who have closed you on both sides and are pressing you, and suddenly a rumbling with a whistle, and then this “shmurg” from the NARs, and you didn’t have time to close your ears and half-deafened screaming with delight, damn knows that, because in the mountains, from where they hit you, explosions swell - this is the coolest music.



Comrade lieutenant colonel, who had the Order of the Red Banner for Afghanistan and the medal "For Courage", plus for his African tricks "October Revolution" (I wrote about how and for what this party order was awarded to our military), he knew and understood a lot about life. And if for him our today's hero remained the best music in his memory, I don't dare to dispute it.

So, Mi-24.


According to the world classification, he seems to be forever second. The world's second specialized attack helicopter (after the AN-1 Cobra), the second largest production after the AN-64 Apache. But in our circles, he is the first and moreover, who is still respected and loved for many reasons, the first of which is OUR helicopter. Quite weighty, by the way.

Let's start our review with the already distant 60s of the last century. It was in those years that progress rushed by leaps and bounds and the concepts that appeared during the Second World War began to slowly go into history. New types of weapons and new principles of their use have appeared.

The fact that Mikhail Leontyevich Mil was able to implement the concept of a "flying infantry fighting vehicle", that is, a helicopter capable of not only transporting a squad of soldiers along with weapons, but also to provide fire support to this squad - it just says that Mil was an outstanding brilliant designer.


In general, at that time there was no helicopter that met such requirements (transfer of a squad of soldiers and fire support) in the Soviet troops. The Mi-2 turned out to be clearly unsuccessful, the Mi-4 was outdated and retired, the Mi-22, due to its size and weight, did not meet the requirements of the task.

We needed a new project.

By the way, it is worth noting that the Americans could not cross the “snake and hedgehog” and therefore to this day they use pairs of specialized helicopters. At first it was the transport UH-1 Iroquois and the strike AN-1 Cobra, and then they were replaced by the UH-60 Black Hawk and AN-64 Apache.

But in those days, the famous Sikorsky company exhibited its S-67 project, which was a kind of analogue of the Mi-24, but the army did not want to break established traditions and abandoned the S-67.

Mi-24A


Happy anniversary, our dear "Crocodile"!

First flight: 1969

The Mil Design Bureau had accumulated considerable experience in building armed helicopters, and the Design Bureau very quickly prepared two technical proposals. The first is for a seven-ton helicopter with one TVZ-117 engine, and the second is for a helicopter weighing 10,5 tons with two of the same engines. The Kamov Design Bureau also took part in the competition, offering a land-based version of its Ka-25.

The military liked Mil’s car more, but the armament categorically did not suit and Mil was asked to replace the GSh-23 cannon with a heavy machine gun, and the real-life ATGMs for the Shturm complex, which was just being developed with semi-automatic targeting. "Storm" required the replacement of the sighting system, the installation of a laser rangefinder, stabilized sights for the pilot and operator. Plus, the question arose about installing a defense complex on a helicopter.

In general, the car of the future really turned out. In project.

As always, when it was really necessary, Soviet designers demonstrated the ability to work at a very fast pace. In the summer of 1969, the first copy of the helicopter was assembled. The decision was made simply masterpiece, they decided to unify the new machine as much as possible with the Mi-8 and Mi-14, worked out and tested helicopters.


Of course, there were also differences. The main rotor blades were made shorter, the wing, which served not only for the suspension of weapons, but also created up to 25% of the lift. An interesting solution was the inclination of the main rotor shaft by 2,5 degrees from the vertical to the right. This was done to compensate for the thrust of the tail rotor when hovering or side-slip, which, according to the designers, provided greater accuracy when firing from a stationary weapon.

The cockpit was made very original (she received the nickname "veranda"): the gunner-operator sat in front, and behind him, above and shifted to the left, the pilot was placed.


The control was general, that is, the operator who controlled the machine-gun installation, aimed rockets and dropped bombs, had a backup control set, and the operator could take control in the event of a pilot failure. In turn, the pilot could launch missiles and fire a machine gun if he was in a fixed central position.

The side armor plates of the cab protected the crew, the windshield was bulletproof, the armor had a pilot's seat. Engine hoods were also armored. In addition, the crew were given helmets and body armor as additional protection.

The landing cabin was equipped in the middle part of the vehicle and, together with the crew cabin, formed a sealed compartment, equipped with air conditioners and a slight overpressure. This would be useful when flying over areas contaminated after a nuclear explosion. The landing cabin was equipped with a cargo boom with an electric winch with a lifting capacity of 1500 kg. Thus, the helicopter could be used to transport various cargoes, including the evacuation of the wounded.

The chassis was made retractable, into compartments that were closed with doors.

The TVZ-117 engine was at that time one of the best in the world and was in no way inferior to American and European ones. Takeoff power 2200 hp, nominal 1700 hp If one of the engines failed, the second automatically switched to takeoff mode. The fuel supply in five sealed tanks was 2125 liters.

Another interesting point: the Mi-24 was built as a helicopter much earlier than its weapons kit. Both the Shturm and the rapid-fire heavy machine gun were not ready. Therefore, to test the combat qualities of the helicopter, the Falanga-M ATGM with a manual guidance system and the NUV-1 machine gun mount with the A-12,7 machine gun were installed.

On September 19, 1969, the Mi-24 made the first takeoff and hover. State tests began in June 1970 and lasted a year and a half. The tests were carried out very actively and generally confirmed the calculated data.


In the version of a combat helicopter, with and without weapons, the Mi-24, with a normal takeoff weight of 11 tons, had a maximum speed of 320 km/h and a cruising speed of 270 km/h, and in a transport one 340 km/h and 280 km/h, respectively.

But due to delays in armament, the first 250 helicopters, called the Mi-24A, went to the troops with the Falanga-M complexes and the A-12,7 machine gun. They entered the troops under the name Mi-24A. A number of helicopters were released as training Mi-24U. These machines differed from the Mi-24A by the absence of a machine gun and the installation of a full-fledged flight and navigation system and a standard control kit instead.

During the construction of the first series of the Mi-24A, the Mi-24B was sent for testing, which differed from its predecessor in the USPU-24 machine gun mount with the YaKB-12,7 rapid-fire machine gun.


The installation was remotely controlled using the KPS-53AV sighting system, the Yakushev-Borzov machine gun fired up to 4500 rounds per minute, an analog computer was included in the small arms control system and an upgraded Falanga-P ATGM complex with the Raduga-F guidance system was installed . All this increased the accuracy of hitting targets three times, but the helicopter was rejected. The experience of operating the Mi-24A in parts revealed a very significant drawback: a completely unsatisfactory view from the pilot's seat

The Mil Design Bureau responded by creating a completely new nose section by early 1971, where the pilot and operator were located one behind the other at different levels in isolated armored cabins.

A change was also made to the design "by popular demand" of the pilots in the form of a rearrangement of the tail rotor from the left side to the right. The screw turned from a pusher to a pull one, its thrust increased, despite the fact that the losses from blowing the beam with the screw also increased.

This is how the familiar look of the Mi-24 was formed.

The crews noted good handling and maneuverability, impressive aerobatic qualities. It was not without drawbacks, engines with a small resource and poor visibility caused criticism. It turned out, for example, that when flying at night at low altitude, the flat windshields of the cockpits reflected lights on the ground, which worsened visibility and even led to a loss of spatial orientation.

The innovative retractable landing gear also caused a lot of problems. Okay, the pilots used to the Mi-8 or Mi-4 forgot to put it away after takeoff, it was much worse when they forgot to release it before landing!

Another serious drawback was the lack of full control from the operator. In the event of a pilot failure, only very competent pilots could land the helicopter from the operator's seat.

The frankly outdated weapons control system from the Mi-4 was especially criticized. The ATGM hit accuracy did not exceed 30%.

Nevertheless, the helicopter went to the troops and moreover, they began to actively promote it for export, eventually delivering it to 21 countries. And for 20 years, "Crocodile" took part in three dozen local conflicts around the world.


The Mi-24 received its baptism of fire during the Ethiopian-Somali war in 1978. The debut was a success: since the opposing side (Somalia) did not have sensible air defense, the Mi-24, in the cockpits of which Cuban pilots trained in the USSR were sitting, created outright chaos on the battlefields. Having defeated the Somalis, the Ethiopians immediately turned to a civil war, in which about four dozen Mi-24As took a direct part. Helicopters were used until 1991, when Ethiopia split into Eritrea and Ethiopia.

In 1979, the Mi-24A was part of the armament of the Afghan army. With their help, the Afghan army fought the Mujahideen. The use was very effective, since the Mujahideen had practically no air defense, although there were losses. The leadership of Afghanistan urged the USSR to send more helicopters, but the next deliveries occurred only when the Soviet army brought its contingent into the country.

In the same 1979, with the help of the Mi-24A, the Libyan army restored order in Chad, where there was a civil war between the Libyan group of G. Oueddey and the regime of H. Habré.


Thus began the long combat path of the Mi-24, which lasted for more than one decade.

LTH Mi-24A


The diameter of the rotor, m: 17,30
Tail rotor diameter, m: 3,91
Length, m: 21,50
Wingspan, m: 6,66
Rotating propeller area, sq.m: 235,00

Weight, kg
- empty: 7 675
- normal takeoff: 10 500
- maximum take-off: 11 000

Engine: 2 x TVAD "Klimov" TV3-117 x 2200 hp
Maximum speed, km/h: 320
Cruising speed, km / h: 270
Ferry range, km: 1
Practical range, km: 450
Practical ceiling, m: 4 950
Static ceiling, m: 1

Crew, prs: 3

Payload: up to 8 soldiers, or 4 stretchers with the wounded, or 1500 kg of cargo (maximum 2400 kg) or 2000 kg on an external sling.

Armament:
- one 12,7 mm A-12,7 machine gun (900 rounds)
Combat load - up to 1 kg on 275 hardpoints:
- 4 x ATGM 9M17M Falanga-M;
- 4 x UB-32A-24 (128 NAR S-5M1, S-5MO, S-5KBP, S-5KO and S-5-O);
- 8 x OFAB-100, 4 x OFAB-250, 4 x RBC-250, 2 x RBC-500, 2 x KMGU-2, 2 x ODAB-500, 2 x ZB-500

Mi-24D



First flight: 1972

This is a full-fledged work on the bugs based on the results of the combat use of the Mi-24A. The cabin is separate from the Mi-24B, the new anti-tank complex "Shturm-V". The helicopter was given the name Mi-24V, but alas, it did not go into the series due to the fact that the fine-tuning of the Shturm-V complex dragged on to indecent.


Therefore, it was decided to produce a helicopter with a new cabin from the Mi-24B, but with a set of weapons from the Mi-24A. They called the car Mi-24D and in 1973 began its mass production. And as a bonus, the helicopter also received an anti-icing system, which was tested with great success in the same 1972.


In total, from 1973 to 1977, about 350 Mi-24D helicopters were built.

Mi-24P



First flight: 1974

It was a very interesting experiment to increase the shooting power of a helicopter. The originally ordered YaKB-12,7 machine gun was good for unarmored vehicles and manpower, but the power of a 12,7-mm bullet was no longer enough to fight armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles. Of course, everything depended on who, at what angle and from what distance it was necessary to shoot, but it became clear that a more solid caliber and armor-piercing projectile were needed to destroy light armored vehicles.


In 1974, the Mil Design Bureau began to work on this issue and, it should be noted, worked out in a very peculiar way, installing a Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30K or GSh-30-2 gun on the helicopter. It was a very powerful and reliable weapon with an amazing rate of fire up to 3000 rounds per minute. The only drawback of this gun was its weight and size.


Naturally, there was no question of placing a double-barreled gun on a mobile mount from a 12,7-mm machine gun. This was not allowed to do both weight, and dimensions, and recoil when firing. Therefore, it was decided to install the GSh-30K as on the Su-25 attack aircraft - motionless, and firing was assigned not to the operator, but to the pilot, who could point the gun with the entire body of the helicopter. The trigger was brought to the pilot's control stick.

In addition, it was necessary to lengthen the barrels and equip them with special nozzles that brought the muzzle wave beyond the dimensions of the helicopter.

The placement of such a monster and fine-tuning took five whole years, but in April 1981 the Mi-24P was put into production.


In general, the actual use of the GSh-30K showed its some redundancy. To defeat the main majority of targets from the "nomenclature" of the Mi-24, a lighter gun with a caliber of 30 mm would be enough.

However, the Mi-24P worked out their tasks in Afghanistan and during both Chechen campaigns. Under the brand name Mi-35P, the helicopter was also exported.

Mi-24BM



First flight: 1999

An attempt to modernize an old helicopter to meet the changing requirements of today. It is worth noting that the attempt was very serious: fiberglass blades for both propellers, a new set of weapons, on-board equipment that provides round-the-clock use.


The size of the wing was reduced, the span was reduced to an external pylon, but this did not affect the number of missiles carried: all the same 16 missiles, but more advanced Ataka ATGMs. SOEP-1V "Lipa" was replaced by the protection station "Mak-UFM". The Lipa protected the Mi-24 from air-to-air missiles with infrared seeker, and the Mak was designed to work against MANPADS missiles with the same heads. Therefore, a new protection station was placed on the lower surface of the tail boom, since the main sector for the appearance of MANPADS missiles is from below-rear.

The GSh-30K cannon or the YaKB-12,7 machine gun was replaced with the GSh-23 cannon mounted on the NPPU-23 mount, which provided the gun barrel mobility of -60/+60 degrees in elevation and +10/-40 degrees in azimuth.


In order to operate at any time of the day, the helicopter received a new optical-electronic sighting and surveillance system, night vision goggles for the crew and a thermal imaging sight.

The landing gear was made non-retractable. Yes, the retracted landing gear gave an increase in speed by 10 km / h and reduced fuel consumption, but if the landing gear was not extended during landing, in the event of a breakdown or forgetfulness of the crew, the helicopter really failed for a long time. Plus, the fixed landing gear saved 120 kg of weight.

The radio equipment of the combat system has also undergone changes. The Shturm and Raduga-Sh complexes were replaced by the Tor-24 complex for targeting Ataka missiles, equipped with a laser rangefinder and a computer center BVK-24. The new electronics allowed the Mi-24 crew to use 9M39 Igla-V air-to-air missiles.

Naturally, in parallel with the combat modification of the vehicle, there was a transport vehicle capable of carrying 8 troops and 1500 kg of related cargo, an ambulance, which made it possible to take out two lying wounded on a stretcher and two seated, accompanied by a medical worker. The ambulance helicopter was equipped with oxygen equipment and an operational resuscitation unit. In total, the Mil Design Bureau developed five variants of the Mi-24VM helicopter.

LTH Mi-24VM


The diameter of the rotor, m: 17,20
Tail rotor diameter, m: 3,84
Length, m: 18,57
Height, m: 4,39
Wingspan, m: 4,77
Weight, kg
- empty: 8 050
- normal takeoff: 10 900
- maximum take-off: 11 500

Engine: 2 x gas turbine engine "Klimov" TV3-117VMA x 2 hp

Maximum speed, km/h: 312
Cruising speed, km / h: 260
Ferry range, km: 1
Fighting range, km: 415
Practical ceiling, m: 5 700
Static ceiling, m: 3

Crew, prs: 3

Payload: up to 8 soldiers or 4 stretchers or 1500 kg of cargo (maximum - 2400 kg) or 2000 kg on an external sling
Armament:
- 23-mm double-barreled gun GSh-23L in the NPPU-24 mount (no 250 rounds)
combat load - 804 kg on 6 suspension nodes:
- 16 x ATGM 9M120 "Ataka-V", 2 x 9M39 "Igla-V", 4 x B-8V20A (80 NAR S-8DM, S-8BM, S-8VM, S-8KOM, S-8S), 4 x B-13L1 (20 NAR S-13, S-13T, S-13-0F), 4xS-24, 2 x GUV-1, 4 x GUV-8700, UPK-23-250, 8 x OFAB-100, 4 x OFAB-250, 4 x RBC-250, 2 x RBC-500, 2 x KMGU-2, 2 x ODAB-500, 2 x ZB-500

Mi-24PK(VK)



First flight: 2000

It was created in parallel with the Mi-24VM as an export version for those countries that needed to replace the outdated Mi-24 of the previous series with something more modern. Also had the designation Mi-35PN or Mi-35VN.

The main difference was the sighting and sighting system OPS-24N, which provides round-the-clock detection and recognition of ground and surface targets, determination of the distance to the target using a laser rangefinder, guidance of guided anti-tank missiles of the Shturm or Ataka complex, aiming when using small arms and cannon mobile and fixed weapons, as well as unguided missiles.

The OPS-24N included the gyro-stabilized optoelectronic system GOES-342. A recognizable ball on a stabilized turret in the nose of the helicopter at the site where the Raduga-Sh ATGM control system was previously located.


GOES-342 four-channel, processes data from television and IR channels, IR direction finder, laser rangefinder. Provides a circular view mode and in combat mode pointing angles of +/-60 degrees, in azimuth -15/+45 degrees. Information is displayed on the multifunctional screens of the pilot and operator.

In addition, a novelty is the flight and navigation complex KNEI-24, which significantly expanded the capabilities of the helicopter. KNEI-24 calculates the position of the helicopter using satellite data or by navigation points stored in the system's memory.

The Mi-24VK-2 guided weapon system allows the crew to navigate the terrain using images that are transmitted to the MFI screens from a 10-hour television camera. The capabilities of the camera provide recognition of a tank-type target during the day from a distance of up to 4 km, at night at least 6-XNUMX km.

The crews of Mi-24VK-2 helicopters have the ability to carry out night flights using GEO-ONV-1 night vision goggles, which allow detecting and recognizing obstacles such as power transmission line masts, communication line poles, forest boundaries, individual trees and cars against the background of a grassy surface on range of at least 0,5 km.


Helicopters Mi-24VK-2 (Mi-35VN) and Mi-24PK-2 (Mi-35PN) today are indeed a very promising solution for those countries that are accustomed to Mil technology and do not have the opportunity to purchase more technically modern machines. These upgrades fully meet modern requirements in terms of equipment and can remain relevant for decades, especially in those countries where progress is a conditional matter.

Mi-24PN



First flight: 2002

The helicopter, which is the last word of the Mil Design Bureau in terms of upgrading the Mi-24 platform, was baptized by fire in the second Chechen campaign.

A very interesting solution in terms of the "efficiency - cost" indicator. Here is not only the opportunity to extend the life of the machine, as such, but also to increase the efficiency of their service. The main thing is to ensure the round-the-clock and all-weather use of military vehicles through thermal imaging systems.

The modification of the Mi-24PN is based on the retrofitting of the old, but well-proven Raduga-Sh surveillance and sighting system with the Zaryevo thermal imaging sighting subsystem, developed on the basis of the Nocturne thermal imager. "Rainbow-Sh" has been in service for more than 25 years and there are no complaints about it, optical channels are fully consistent with modern requirements. But the technical vision channels needed to be improved.

As a result, everything resulted in the installation, in addition to the main daytime system of the OPS 9S475, of the thermal imaging sighting system TPP-9S475N with a thermal imaging direction finder, a laser rangefinder and an interface unit with the OPS 9S475.

The armament remained practically unchanged, with the exception of the artillery unit. The Mi-24PN was equipped with a 9-A-623K double-barreled gun of 30-mm caliber with 250 rounds of ammunition. The gun was mounted on a fixed installation NPU-30.


In general, the Mi-24 in the Mi-24PN version is quite relevant on any battlefield, whether it is combined arms combat on land, counter-terrorist activities, or search and destruction, for example, of landing craft.

In the Russian army Mi-24PN since 2004. The number of helicopters accepted by the army is still small and does not exceed three dozen. However, against the backdrop of the new Mi-28N and Ka-52, this is already an achievement. The cost of upgrading the Mi-24P to the Mi-24PN fluctuates around 70 million rubles, but according to the manufacturers, the helicopter will serve freely for at least another 10 years. In addition, according to the calculations of gunsmiths, the effectiveness of the Mi-24PN in comparison with the Mi-24P is at least 50% higher.

LTH Mi-24PN

The diameter of the main screw, m: 17,30
Tail rotor diameter, m: 3,91
Length, m: 17,51
Height, m: 3,90
Wingspan, m: 4,77

Weight, kg:
- empty: 8 570
- normal takeoff: 11 300
maximum takeoff: 11 800

Engine: 2 x TVAD "Klimov" TV3-117V x 2 225 hp
Maximum speed, km/h: 320
Cruising speed, km / h: 270
Ferry range, km: 1
Fighting range, km: 450
Practical ceiling, m: 4 500
Static ceiling, m: 2
Crew, prs: 3

Payload: up to 8 soldiers or 4 stretchers or 1500 kg of cargo (maximum - 2400 kg) or 2000 kg on an external sling

Armament:
- one 30 mm gun GSh-30K (250 rounds)
- 16 x ATGM 9M120 "Ataka-V", 4 x ATGM 9M114K "Shturm-V", 4 x UB-32A-24 (128 NAR S-5M1, S-5MO, S-5KBP, S-5KO and S-5 -O), 4 x B-8V20A (80 NAR S-8DM, S-8BM, S-8VM, S-8KOM, S-8S), 4 x B-13L1 (20 NAR S-13, S-13T, S -13-0F), 4 x S-24, GSh-30K, 2 x GUV-1, 4 x GUV-8700, UPK-23-250, 8 x OFAB-100, 4 x OFAB-250, 4 x RBC- 250, 2 x RBC-500, 2 x KMGU-2, 2 x ODAB-500, 2 x ZB-500.


Mi-24 in modifications participated in more than 30 armed conflicts. The most famous ones can be distinguished:
- Ethiopian-Somali war (1977-1978) - the first case of combat use;
- Chadian-Libyan conflict (1978-1987);
- Iran-Iraq war (1980-1988);
- Second civil war in Sudan (1983-2002);
- Karabakh conflict (1988-1994);
- The first Chechen war (1994-1996);
- Second Chechen war (1999-2000);
- Iraqi war (2003-2010);
- Civil war in Syria (since 2011);
- Armed conflict in Ukraine and NWO in Ukraine.

Today, the helicopter is in service with 57 countries around the world.


In general, the career is more than impressive. For us, first of all, the Crocodile is an integral symbol of participation in the civil war in Afghanistan, where the helicopter did its job very effectively. The fact that the helicopter fought all over the world only does it credit, because indeed, the price / quality ratio of the Mi-24 is more than remarkable.

As for today, despite the presence of completely new models of attack helicopters, the Mi-24 is relevant in all forms, since it meets its main task: to deliver troops to the place and provide them with fire support. And the fact that the helicopter copes well with the task laid down in it, testifies, first of all, that the Mil Design Bureau knew how to make combat vehicles. And they still can.


Happy anniversary to both the helicopter and Mil Design Bureau, which created this impressive combat vehicle! 50 years in the ranks is a lot.
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  1. +22
    23 June 2022 04: 11
    Glory to the Soviet Designers, what else to say ... 50 years in the ranks!
    1. +14
      23 June 2022 04: 23
      Quote: Aerodrome
      50 years in the ranks!

      Yes, and it will serve more - the legend is more alive than many!
      In general, looking at the headline, I was surprised - I thought: I wish "Yeralash" was congratulated! laughing
      1. +19
        23 June 2022 05: 25
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        In general, looking at the headline, I was surprised - I thought: I wish "Yeralash" was congratulated!

        There is something. This year the magazine "Crocodile" turned 100 years old.
        Krokodil was founded in 1922, at first as a supplement to Rabochaya Gazeta, and was published once a week. According to cartoonist Boris Yefimov's memoir Ten Decades, at first this illustrated supplement had no name (he himself simply called it "Appendix"). According to Yefimov, the supplement contained a “satirical part,” which “expanded from issue to issue, and soon the Supplement essentially turned into a real satirical magazine, which just didn’t have its own name.” The name "Crocodile" was invented by a young employee of the "Working Newspaper" Sergei Gessen. Konstantin Eremeev (the first editor of the magazine) supported him.
        *****
        What's on topic? They wanted, they could, they tried, they loved their job. The result was what we wanted.
        1. +3
          23 June 2022 06: 16
          Our pride!!!
          1. +2
            23 June 2022 11: 59
            Hey handsome! Hard worker! And indeed on the face and torso - "Crocodile"! good

            1. 0
              23 June 2022 12: 12
              Mikhail Leontyevich Mil was able to implement the concept of a "flying infantry fighting vehicle", that is, a helicopter capable of not only transporting a squad of soldiers along with weapons, but also providing fire support to this squad - this simply says that Mil was an outstanding brilliant designer.

              Ah yes Mil - our pride!
              Mikhail Leontievich Mil - Soviet helicopter designer and scientist, Doctor of Technical Sciences (1945), Hero of Socialist Labor (1966), laureate of the Lenin Prize (1958) ...
              Born: November 22, 1909, Irkutsk, Russian Empire
              Died: January 31, 1970 (aged 60)

              Outstanding aircraft designers Mikhail Mil
            2. +3
              23 June 2022 18: 49
              Quote: Tatiana
              And indeed on the face and torso - "Crocodile"!
            3. 0
              23 June 2022 19: 40
              Aw, handsome!

              For me, the Mi-24 is an icon of the style of Russian weapons. The Romanesque (Russian) style in design is extremely successful for him.
            4. +1
              1 July 2022 12: 25
              He served in the OBATO. Once, our flyers went out on firing instead of targets on support vehicles ...
              They twisted their tails - trying on how to fuck, but they realized that they had flown in the wrong place and dumped ....
              I still remember an acute desire to dig deeper - when the Crocodile looks at you ....
              Although the brain understood that they definitely wouldn’t shoot, there were too many people rushing around the site lol
    2. +12
      23 June 2022 15: 34
      On June 8, 1982, in Lebanon, a Syrian Mi-24 Crocodile helicopter attacked a convoy of Israeli armored vehicles. The Israelis called in a pair of F-4 Phantom fighters to help them. Entering the attack, at a distance of 8 km from the Mi-24 "Phantom" gave himself out by radar radiation. The helicopter tracked the signal and fired two guided missiles. Both missiles hit the target, blowing the Israeli fighter jet to shreds.
      On October 27, 1984, during the Iran-Iraq war, a similar incident occurred. The characters are the same: "Crocodile" against "Phantom". An Iranian fighter jet fired a missile at an Iraqi helicopter, but the latter flew so close to the ground that the missile lost its target. Then the Iranian decided to shoot down the enemy in the good old way - from a cannon. The Phantom flew towards the Mi-24, but the Iraqi pilot approached the issue of his defense thoroughly: from a distance of 3,5 km, he simultaneously fired 32 NURS. The Iranian fighter, of course, tried to dodge, but the missiles, flying in front of 150 meters at a speed twice that of sound, left him no chance. The hit "Phantom" shattered into parts and disappeared from the radar.
      On March 27, 2003, a convoy of 39 American armored vehicles was moving into Fallujah. The column consisted of 8 tanks - 5 "Abrams" mod. M1A2 and 3 mod. M1A1; 2 self-propelled guns M-109M; 2 BMP "Bradley" M3 and 7 M2; 12 light wheeled infantry fighting vehicles of the American "marines" LAV-25A3; 5 armored personnel carriers M-113; the installation of the Hellfire ATGM based on the M-113 armored personnel carrier and two light Avenger air defense systems based on the Hammer armored jeeps. From the air, the column was covered by a Super Cobra attack helicopter.
      At 17.45 the convoy was attacked by one (!) Iraqi Mi-24V helicopter. After 7 min. The Super Cobra burned out on the ground, 2/3 of the personnel were out of action, and the Abrams tank and one BMP M3 remained from the equipment. The ensuing duel between the F-18 and Mi-24V ended in a draw.
      Already on March 28, 2003, the Iranian Al-Arabia TV channel showed excerpts from the video recording of the on-board camera of an Iraqi helicopter that defeated the American convoy the day before. Those. this defeat of the Amer column is not a fake, but a real battle, confirmed by video.
      The Mi-24V attack on March 27, 2003 was a disgrace to the Americans. Therefore, the Americans did not let the Al Jazeera film crew to the defeated armored column, they only managed to film the smoke above the road. After the defeat of the armored column, the official versions of the Americans were one "more believable" than the other. Initially, it was stated that it was a well burning. Then, in Schweik's style, it was stated that it was the United States that had heroically destroyed a convoy of Iraqi armored vehicles, although the types of vehicles were also identified by a non-specialist. Later, the United States generally pretended that nothing of the kind had happened - this is their official point of view to this day.
      An interesting detail. It turned out that the 14,5 mm KPV Mi-24 confidently hits all types of OV armored personnel carriers. And vice versa. In the battle on March 27, 2003, one of the infantry fighting vehicles of the Marines was equipped with a 25mm cannon, from which 2 or 24 shells were slammed into the Mi-9 at a distance of about 10 km. Of these, 4 hit the screen-exhaust device, one hit the engine, the rest hit the cockpit. One even broke through the armor. Then, with return fire, the LAV-25A3 tore into footcloths.
      Saddam had only 5 Mi-24Vs, which destroyed 11 units in 96 sorties. armored vehicles, including 43 tanks. When the situation became hopeless, they were transferred to Iran. To intercept them, the Americans raised everything that could fly in the area. However, only one Mi-24 was hit, and then only after it had shot all the ammunition. The Americans classified their losses in this battle.
      1. +1
        24 June 2022 18: 12
        Beautiful stories (03.2003)! I did not find where to look, check. Can you help with a link?
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    3. -12
      23 June 2022 19: 42
      Quote: Aerodrome
      Glory to the Soviet Designers, what else to say ... 50 years in the ranks!

      Glory, yes. Then we wonder why everything falls and breaks ..
      1. +1
        24 June 2022 22: 26
        Colombian, this helicopter, unlike its Western counterparts, uses AB (air bombs) up to OFAB 250 on - and this ... I served at the airfield and saw its use for 2 years ... Unlike Western cars, it is used like a stormtrooper. When such a d..u..ra flies at the enemy, then ... you put it in your pants. The Mi-24 can carry more than 100 NARs - this is an air-based MLRS, but more accurate.
        Targets at the airfield in the form of a column of tanks, armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles crush like seeds.
        Mi-24 (Mi-35) will be in service for a long time. Incredible death machine. The most versatile helicopter in the world both transport and combat.
        "Extinguish the lights, swallow the dust" - that's what we called it at the air range - after the first breaks, there was nothing for the timekeeper to do, the whole range was covered in dust. And if their link or squadron lined up in a "carousel" - is this a must see ?! hi
  2. KCA
    +12
    23 June 2022 05: 24
    Before urgent aviation, I was not fond of, and I knew nothing, my uncle received the Foreign Military Review magazine, so I looked at all sorts of Apaches in the pictures, but then, when they flew over my head, I immediately realized that MI-24 is a "Crocodile "and SU "-25" is "Rook", not knowing the performance characteristics, these machines inspired some kind of mystical horror, it is immediately clear that if this comes at you, then PPC, there is nowhere to run when two MI-24s pop up in a clean the field at you with a quiet step, I don’t know what the engine mode is called, there’s nothing, and suddenly they fly overhead, and there are so many NURSs and other crap that your eyes run wide, and next to them are Shilka in the machine gun, having already sniffed " friend or foe, beauty
    1. +7
      23 June 2022 06: 40
      Quote: KCA
      these cars inspired some kind of mystical horror, it is immediately clear that if this comes at you, then PPC, there is nowhere to run,

      But BEAUTIFUL!
      1. KCA
        +1
        23 June 2022 06: 51
        It’s not the right word, as if they didn’t develop combat capabilities, but also engaged in modding, and brought it to perfection, and the competitors are simply “Black Hawk Down”, a film that ours don’t know what to call them, they translate the name of the film simply as “black hawk”, forgetting the old, i.e. fallen, knocked down, shabby, etc.
  3. Eug
    +13
    23 June 2022 05: 27
    And from the sky Crocodiles
    Opening an evil mouth
    Draw the graves
    Change the "spirits" suit
    From diamond to cross
    They change the suit of spirits ...

    A. Babenko "To the caravan"
    (from "Afghan" folklore)
    1. +6
      23 June 2022 06: 25
      the author is not specified, the place is also
      *I can see you through the reticle!
      through the haze from a volley of missiles!
      I see you still whole
      rifle, turban and beshmet!*
  4. +4
    23 June 2022 05: 46
    I join in the congratulations! The car is legendary! I got to see it live once! and the model has been on the shelf for many years! Mi-24P! Nearby is the no less legendary car-T34! on the same scale! It looks very small against the background of the Mi-24! Three cheers!
  5. +10
    23 June 2022 06: 24
    But in those days, the famous Sikorsky company exhibited its S-67 project, which was a kind of analogue of the Mi-24, but the army did not want to break established traditions and abandoned the S-67.

    The USA turned out to be from the landing cabin. And how often do Mi-24s use the landing cabin? Maybe it was necessary to have a part of the MI-24 without a landing cabin and thereby improve the flight characteristics and armament of the helicopter?
    1. +4
      23 June 2022 08: 13
      They have never been used, in Afghanistan, even with one weapon, it took off with difficulty.
      1. -2
        23 June 2022 11: 06
        in Afghanistan, even with one weapon, he took off with difficulty.

        What kind of nonsense? Until the 87th there is also a bortach with a PKT
        flew with a crew. Plus EVA power ate. And at the same time, 2 S-8 blocks and two "hundred parts" of FAB were taken to the BSHU. For the whole year there was only one case of going to low gas in temperature - so they just tried to squeeze out a really prohibitive height while hovering.
        And the cabin is very necessary and the performance characteristics do not worsen at all, it's just a free bonus of empty space. The beam is full of him. Transfer people and junk immediately when working from the site. Get hooked pick up or drop off. Or will you fly to inspect the caravan on a cardboard eight?
        Leave your "fighter" dreams of a "clean attack aircraft" to computer players. And the Ka and Mi-28 are a waste of money that should have been spent on electronic equipment and armament of the modernized 24-ki.
        And the funny thing is that the Yak-9 fought through the entire war with an additional "landing" cabin - and no one blames this. On the contrary, even.
        1. +4
          23 June 2022 12: 51
          Are you friends with your head? The cabin is a volume that has walls, the weight is added there to the fig. This is without taking into account the complete delusional nature of the very idea of ​​​​a multifunctional helicopter, since building the Mi-24 in quantities close to the Mi-8 will still not work, it is much more expensive due to guided weapons, but as a transport it is still 2 times worse. At the same time, a combat helicopter has enough tasks on the battlefield to be distracted by bus work. And for the Mi-8, even if it is armed, the main task is to deliver or pick up, if you had to shoot at the same time, this means that the operation is not going very well. But if he took the group and returned, then he completed the task, and whether he hit someone with NURSs or not, this is the tenth thing.

          Well, yes, when they flew to the BSHU, no one took people. Firstly, don’t, secondly, he simply won’t take off in the mountains with a full BC and a ton of men in the back. I am not aware of any case of using the Mi-1 for landing. They may have picked up one of the downed colleagues, well, the Mi-2 also has an empty space in the electronics compartment, where the EMNIP of a person 24 fits.

          The flight mechanic is generally archaic and additional. corpse, if anything. The Ka-50 was made with a very specific goal, to reduce the number of deaths due to the loss of vehicles.
          1. +3
            23 June 2022 15: 04
            Quote: EvilLion
            A flight mechanic is generally archaism and .....
            In Afghanistan, on the Mi-24, I saw a shooter with a machine gun on the starboard side more than once.
        2. +3
          23 June 2022 13: 23
          this cabin on the Yak-9 was really used! The technical staff was transported, and in 1944 they imprisoned a submachine gunner with a PPSh! The squadron flew to the surrendered enemy airfield - and immediately with the guards! Voronov has this episode in the book * Sea Fighters *!
    2. 0
      23 June 2022 09: 14
      Tried to do in mi-28
    3. -1
      23 June 2022 14: 26
      Well, actually, military experts later recognized the fallacy of the "flying infantry fighting vehicle" concept. This became especially clear in Afghanistan, when, due to the excess weight of the unused landing cabin, the helicopter could not fight high in the mountains and the Mi-8 station wagons performed the role of a fire support helicopter. It would be better to place more weapons instead of this cabin. But alas, what's done is done. The career of the hero of the day turned out to be long and eventful.
      1. +3
        23 June 2022 15: 07
        Quote from Antey
        It would be better to place more weapons instead of this cabin ....
        Some Mi-24s have this space, they used it for an additional fuel tank
  6. 0
    23 June 2022 06: 40
    Unique car. Love!
  7. +3
    23 June 2022 06: 53
    You can only take off your hat to the genius of design thought M. Mil and his associates and bow low. hi
  8. +1
    23 June 2022 07: 06
    Yes, handsome "Crocodile", I will not forget his volleys ..
  9. +2
    23 June 2022 07: 47
    I have always been the earth. And mother Yasha where the crocodile went to work... Go to hell, it's beautiful to them. Terrible, sir, to fucking hiccups
    1. 0
      23 June 2022 16: 45
      It depends which side you are on.
      1. 0
        25 June 2022 08: 30
        Yes, and from His side, to watch how the earth is bubbling terribly.
  10. -6
    23 June 2022 08: 12
    Actually, the only reason why he still flies is problems with the Ka-50 and Mi-28, and the delay in replacement, objectively there is nothing good in the Mi-24, he failed the concept of both the action movie and the transport miserably. But it looks epic.
    1. +3
      23 June 2022 09: 15
      The same KA-29 killed it in the trash during tests .. But the Milevtsy still have not forgotten how to lobby ..
      1. +3
        23 June 2022 12: 30
        The same KA-29 did it on tests in the trash .. But to lobby

        Mi-24 in production since 1971 (work on it since 1967)
        Ka-29 serial production since 1984 (work from 1976-1978) and it is for marines.
        How could he "do": a mystery
        1. +1
          24 June 2022 07: 32
          And from whom did KA -29 grow? Correctly from the KA-25, especially when you consider how Mile lay down with bones in order to prevent a competitor from entering the army meadow. By order of the Navy, the Kamov Design Bureau began designing the transport and combat Ka-29 in 1973.

          It should be noted that the Design Bureau acquired the first experience in designing transport and combat helicopters in the interests of army aviation in the late 1960s during a competition held by the Ministry of Defense. Then the Kamovites offered the Ka-25F on a ski chassis to the experts' judgment. The armament of the combat vehicle included a 23-mm mobile cannon with an ammunition load of 400 rounds, six UB-16 NAR units, six Falanga ATGMs and bombs of various calibers. The project was approved by the Air Force institutes, but the final decision of the customer still leaned in favor of another participant in the competition - the Mi-24 helicopter.
          http://www.airwar.ru/enc/sh/ka29.html Ознакомьтесь весьма обширная статья.
          1. -2
            24 June 2022 10: 10
            And from whom did KA -29 grow? Right from KA-25

            Nice try, but the referee does not pinch her "there was a spade"
            Otherwise, I'll start: what did the Mi-24 grow out of? Correctly from Mi-8 and Mi-14 (even the parts are the same and there are a lot)
            Check out this very extensive article.

            So you almost told everything that is important
            hi
            1. +1
              24 June 2022 10: 53
              So I mean that the Mi-24 and the Ka-29 were developed around it and at the same time, the KA turned out much better BUT Mil worked better with the generals and as a result the design bureau degenerated, and the army received not the best version of the weapon ..
              You obviously didn’t read the article. There, and it’s going on about comparative with MI-24.
              1. 0
                24 June 2022 11: 01
                No, I didn't read it.
                I, in principle, only about the original statement. It is not true. Everything else is secondary
                1. +1
                  24 June 2022 11: 04
                  "I did not, but I condemn!" Classic.
                  1. -3
                    24 June 2022 11: 22
                    I’m not discussing and condemning an article in welded!
                    I'm about
                    The same KA-29 did it on tests in the trash ..

                    And an attempt to change shoes in flight (Classic good )
                    And from whom did KA -29 grow? Right from KA-25

                    For me, it is not important mi-24 or ka-29. I'm not very good at helicopters.
                    I'm just talking about a contrived causal line.
                    1. +2
                      24 June 2022 11: 35
                      I stated that 24 did not grow out of 8? Not! Or was it not such that in comparative tests 24 was made in the trash? It was? It was that it was a little later that does not cancel the fact, I'm talking about the fact that the Mi-24 is by no means the best thing that our army was given for which the soldiers from Afghanistan pay with their lives, as it is now when the release of the KA-50 was completely sabotaged and the troops turned out to be MI-28 was introduced, and in homeopathic quantities, they fucked up the time while the Milevtsy of the military licked the result, and the roots of this criminal process, as we can see, stretch from the 24th.
                      1. 0
                        24 June 2022 13: 41
                        Look: I understood your message, expressed my position, and did not distort anything, as you are trying to hang on me.
                        The discussion is interrupted, no offense, it is not connected with you.
                        It’s just that I have 2-3 “admirers” on this site (I can assume that ☝️they are with a non-traditional sexual orientation)☝️ who graze me and such old chats to slap me with a beer. “-“ .
                        So, what would I spoil and the opponent (you in this case) substitute, causing my backlash, and you "-" slap.
                        Therefore: let's finish. If you think the topic is interesting and you can show the deceit of the Milevites and the damage to the country's defense capability with facts: write an article here. I (and many) will read with pleasure
                        hi
      2. 0
        23 June 2022 12: 54
        Ka-29 is purely transport. And the Mi-24 competitor based on the Ka-25 was very weak, because it was made for the existing engine, the Mi-24 was designed for the TV3-117 breakthrough engines that did not yet exist, which, as you know, successfully went into series.
        1. +1
          24 June 2022 07: 33
          And this is the possibility of lobbying when they give the opportunity to do something that is not there ..
          1. +1
            24 June 2022 10: 15
            Well, we often did this both in aviation and in ground.
            And the ships under the air defense system, which is not.
    2. -1
      23 June 2022 12: 49
      Envy, silently.
    3. 0
      23 June 2022 16: 33
      How many times have I heard this "the cargo compartment is to blame, it failed miserably" ...
      Well, actually, 24 was created primarily for the European theater of operations. And there are smaller mountains. And even shortened rotor blades (compared to the 8th) were considered acceptable.
      1. +1
        25 June 2022 21: 12
        It doesn’t matter, he still couldn’t drag a full suspension and landing, either one or the other. The concept of a flying infantry fighting vehicle could be implemented in the form of a special modification of the MI-8, and an attack helicopter should be without a troop compartment. The Americans were not idiots when they created the cobra.
    4. -3
      23 June 2022 21: 28
      Quote: EvilLion
      the concept of both an action movie and transport, he failed miserably. But it looks epic.


      On the other hand, the cockpit space is a reserve for advanced modernization: one branch for high-tech warfare and another for local warfare. In one case, it can become a "flying battlefield server" in the network war of the Apocalypse, and in the other case, you can put an automatic loader in the cockpit and repeatedly reload launchers NURS in flight, without returning to the airfield, right at the place where the helicopter is used.
  11. +7
    23 June 2022 08: 23
    Happy anniversary, our dear "Crocodile"!
    "Heavy" Soviet legacy! smile
  12. +1
    23 June 2022 10: 37
    It’s a wonderful car, but I just don’t understand why they put a double-barreled fool GSH-30-2 on it with a bunch of problems, but you could stick 2A42 of the same caliber with less weight and better accuracy and, moreover, with selective gun power, like on Ka -50, and there would be a very powerful and accurate complex.
    1. 0
      23 June 2022 13: 39
      Quote: merkava-2bet
      It’s a wonderful car, but I just don’t understand why they put a double-barreled fool GSH-30-2 on it with a bunch of problems, but you could stick 2A42 of the same caliber with less weight and better accuracy and, moreover, with selective gun power, like on Ka -50, and there would be a very powerful and accurate complex.


      But because the General Staff is aviation, created specifically for aircraft. A 2A42 is a gun for ground armored vehicles.
      1. +1
        23 June 2022 22: 01
        The NR-30 gun is good, it suits you. And most importantly, how much does GSh-30-2 and 2A42 weigh? rate of fire?
        1. +1
          24 June 2022 11: 32
          Quote: merkava-2bet
          The NR-30 gun is good, it suits you. And most importantly, how much does GSh-30-2 and 2A42 weigh? rate of fire?


          I can ask, but not before October. :)
          Now for memory - vibrations. Powerful vibrations when shooting. The design of the air gun is such that there is less vibration, and the 2A42 was designed without regard to this parameter.
          1. +1
            24 June 2022 15: 47
            Well, GSh-301 is highly accurate, but returns up to 7500 kg at a maximum rate of 1800 rpm.
    2. +1
      24 June 2022 07: 40
      I wonder why they didn’t put the gun exactly under the helicopter’s belly, let’s say exactly under the propeller, in this position it’s not a problem to make the drive both access to the BC and to the unit itself. 24 'and at least 360' aiming angle .. Yes, the volume of the cargo compartment would also decrease, but it is ALWAYS empty anyway .. they would solve the problem of fire in the house on an outgoing helicopter, which was the main cause of defeat from the ground ..
      1. +1
        24 June 2022 11: 34
        Quote: max702
        I wonder why they didn’t put the gun exactly under the belly of the helicopter, let’s say exactly under the propeller, in this position it’s not a problem to make the drive both access to the BC and to the unit itself


        The helicopter flies with its nose down.
  13. +1
    23 June 2022 10: 42
    It seems to me that the author confused the azimuth angles with the pointing angles in the vertical plane
  14. +3
    23 June 2022 10: 45
    This is a full-fledged work on the bugs based on the results of the combat use of the Mi-24A.

    What is the combat use?
    The Mi-24D took off in 1972, and this is a correction of the shortcomings and problems of the Mi-24A, and the first combat use of the Mi-24A helicopter was Ethiopian-Somali war (1977-1978) - the first case of combat use
  15. 0
    23 June 2022 10: 48
    In general, the actual use of the GSh-30K showed its some redundancy. To defeat the main majority of targets from the "nomenclature" of the Mi-24, a lighter gun with a caliber of 30 mm would be enough.


    She was probably set up to fight tanks .... but P did not have such goals .......
    1. +2
      23 June 2022 13: 27
      this gun in Afghanistan went very well! Immediately abandoned the GUVs! duvaly projectile beat! better than the AG-17 - the caliber is the same, and the muzzle velocity is higher
  16. 0
    23 June 2022 12: 07
    In the Libyan-Ethiopian war, mattress covers were captured by the Mi-24 in export version with delivery to the USA
  17. -1
    23 June 2022 12: 33
    ... an excellent car - an excellent result of the work of designers and production workers !!! Well done !!!
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  19. 0
    23 June 2022 13: 38
    Good design is only half the battle.
    I observed the action of a machine gun at the training ground from the Mi-24D cockpit on a target of the "car" type. The rate of fire was impressive, but the line of bursts was three hundred meters long, because combat use is carried out from extremely low altitudes, and there is no stabilization of the barrel at the aiming point. Well, if the car was at least one hit. The same thing is probably observed during NURS launches. In addition, the scattering of NURS is lower if the carrier speed is high 850-900 km/h. Speed ​​contributes to the stabilization of the projectile. Requiring a helicopter to hit underground shelters is hardly advisable. But fragmentation NURS should have a remote automatically programmable fuse to destroy manpower.
    Experience shows that long-range guided missiles should be the main armament of helicopters. And it's time to make fairly good optoelectronic sighting systems that allow you to identify and recognize a small target day and night. Some missiles must be supersonic.
    The survival of the helicopter depends on the effectiveness of the defense complex. But it is also necessary to minimize the time spent in the enemy air defense coverage area. It is also necessary to have a developed rescue service for the crews of downed helicopters. In the US Air Force, these units are efficient and elite.
  20. -2
    23 June 2022 14: 14
    Happy anniversary, why compare two different cars MI and KA are different horses for different tasks, the infernal Carousel makes KA better, booking is better with MI. It’s easier to put a spacecraft on a ship, MI can take off from a run when overloaded when a lot is stuffed into it
  21. -3
    23 June 2022 15: 03
    50 years is the age of maturity! a good tool turned out.
    1. +5
      23 June 2022 20: 52
      This is stagnation, not maturity. Imagine that in 1986 the fighter continues to operate an improved version of the I-16. There is no MiG-15, no MiG-21, especially the MiG-31.
      1. 0
        23 June 2022 21: 14
        Imagine that in 1986 the fighter continues to operate an improved version of the I-16. There is no MiG-15, no MiG-21, especially the MiG-31.

        Invented a new engine to replace the turboshaft? Gravicapu, electric transmission? Maybe the Americans have had cryogenerators and cryoelectric motors for a long time, but we are slurping cabbage soup with bast shoes? Yes, apart from a breakthrough in electronics, there were no "revolutions" at all. Only fine-tuning of the double-row piston star decommissioned the I-16. And the turbojet that appeared has already written off in the same way La-5-7-9. Locators retired MiG-15s. And then stall again. How the MiG-25 or Phantom flew - it’s better they don’t fly anymore. Only REO and rackets have become better. Now the EPR is taken care of. If not for this, then the F-15 and Su-27, MiG-25 platforms would still work. However, they work great.
        There is nothing to update in the Mi-24, except for REO and missiles. Everything there is licked to a shine, you can’t imagine better.
        1. +1
          24 June 2022 10: 28
          Quote: dauria
          There is nothing to update in the Mi-24, except for REO and missiles.

          The Mi-24 is not a helicopter, but a "combat aviation complex (BAC)". Simply put, we need a new LHC, not a "helicopter". Do you agree? And from the "helicopter" there will be only spars and stringers (please do not confuse with strings!).
  22. 0
    24 June 2022 08: 01
    Content. The horse of the author is such articles. Thank you.
  23. 0
    24 June 2022 20: 03
    Quote: Fitter65
    You could also just write:Mi-24 helicopter Happy Anniversary!!!"And give links to sources. For the Mi-24A http://www.airwar.ru/enc/ah/mi24a.html
    Mi-24V http://www.airwar.ru/enc/ah/mi24v.html
    Mi-24D http://www.airwar.ru/enc/ah/mi24d.html
    You can read about other modifications of the famous crocodile there, on the CORNER OF THE SKY.
    Well, or buy such publications.




    There is also "Air Collection 9-2010 - Mi-24 Combat Helicopter" but this is still the same book by N. Sekach. And of course, Airplane Plus No. 2 (MI-24 Combat Helicopter Design Bureau named after Mil)

    I foresee, "calculate" yours, "about the sources", did EVERYTHING read it all?
  24. 0
    24 June 2022 22: 41
    24-ka and its designers pierced with thought for decades to come! Fly on and on, "Crocodile" !!!
  25. +1
    25 June 2022 00: 12
    Quote: Old electrician
    An interesting detail. It turned out that the 14,5 mm KPV Mi-24 confidently hits all types of OV armored personnel carriers. And vice versa. In the battle on March 27, 2003, one of the infantry fighting vehicles of the Marines was equipped with a 25mm cannon, from which 2 or 24 shells were slammed into the Mi-9 at a distance of about 10 km. Of these, 4 hit the screen-exhaust device, one hit the engine, the rest hit the cockpit. One even broke through the armor. Then, with return fire, the LAV-25A3 tore into footcloths.

    That's exactly interesting, but where did you see the KPV on the Mi-24? And in general, about 25 mm, this is tin! Even DShK 12,7 mm pierced the armor of the Mi-24. It all depends on the range and angle of impact. And getting into the EPU does not threaten the helicopter at all if the fragments do not do their job. And a 25-mm projectile hitting the engine or cockpit is 100% death of the helicopter! Crew ... if someone survives, they can celebrate their second birthday!
    1. +1
      25 June 2022 08: 43
      Hospadeeeee!!! There, the author of the post has a total number of destroyed equipment more than the number of weapons on board the helicopter. Including projectiles.
      Although there was some event.
      I think it was a well-organized "slaughter of the column". Possibly even an artillery strike. The turntable acted as an observer-corrector. And stupidly, after all, she worked for the survivors.
      Well, perhaps she initially stopped the convoy with a blow to the lead vehicles. If the area allowed.
  26. -1
    25 June 2022 13: 14
    Interestingly, there are already plans for the purchase of Mi-24 / Mi-35 helicopters for the Moscow Region, taking into account recent events?
  27. 0
    27 June 2022 09: 31
    Happy Anniversary our crocodile
    But I personally have twofold feelings for this helicopter in 2002 in the Vedensky Gorge, they almost sold us, mistaking us for militants. It was saved by the fact that on the air on their frequency after they ignored them, that it was my own I covered them with obscenities in Tatar, and then, according to the old tradition, having already said that there is no god but Allah, in Arabic, the turntables turned from a combat course with the words “our” and not bad Tatar with a Bashkir accent. It turned out that the commander of the lead helicopter from Yekaterinburg was a graduate of the Ufa Helicopter School and learned how to swear well laughing in Tatar and Bashkir with local flavor.
  28. 0
    10 July 2022 07: 43
    The very concept of the BMP is flawed.
    the possibility of placing troops on board the Mi-24 (at that time the concept of using a combat helicopter as a “flying infantry fighting vehicle” was popular)
    turned out to be unclaimed.
    ..this was hampered by the low bearing properties of a fairly heavy armored vehicle with a set of weapons (empty, it weighed almost 1,5 tons more than the Mi-8).
    With paratroopers, the Mi-24 became clumsy, and dwarfs were more suitable for placing fighters in the cargo compartment - its height was only 1,2 m.
    In Afghanistan, the implementation of such plans was also hindered by a general deterioration in flight performance, which was especially sensitive given the specific features of the Mi-24.

    We need separately attack helicopters, separately transport ones.
  29. -2
    7 September 2022 06: 14
    But on the SVO it turned out to be not ice, unfortunately, the machine is frankly weak against the existing air defense. Yes, and like the landing Mi-8/17, it’s cheaper and more convenient. .Oddly enough, but Kamov's concept turned out to be more correct on the battlefield.
    But "Crocodile" is a whole era, 50 years in flight, this is a serious period.

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