New Putin? People are waiting for the Munich speech on our home themes.

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A book by Anatoly Salutsky, a longtime author of the Literary Gazette, is published: “Putin and Fourth Russia. Will the president have enough hardness for “soft power”? ”

The collection of articles written over the past 10 years and published, including in “LH”, does not pretend to be sensational when publicists are competing who have gathered more fried facts or details from the personal life of the characters. The book is intended for those who reflect on the meaning and dynamics of change in the main triangle of the Russian political scene "Putin - the people - the elite". The author seeks to understand the identity of Putin himself, the changes that have occurred during the years he was in the highest posts of the state.

The book comes out on the eve of the V.N. 60 anniversary. Putin and puts before him, as the president of Russia, a number of critical questions, the answers to which must be given by all of us.

New Putin? People are waiting for the Munich speech on our home themes.TOT, YES, not TOT

This book does not belong to the category of solemn, festive publications, does not contain biographical details about the life of the head of state. It seems to me that it largely clarifies the answer to the famous question asked at the very beginning of his presidential journey: “Who are you, Mr. Putin?”
I have never communicated with Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, I have not even seen him, as they say, “live”, and therefore my conclusions and assessments are unbiased. But I very carefully watched the actions, statements, style and, I would say, the habits of supreme power from the side, without being included in the turbulent whirlpools of specific political events.

In general, it seems to me that the book recreates the complex and controversial image of Russia in the first twelve years of the XXI century, when the main role in the development of the state belonged to Vladimir Putin. At the same time, from the very beginning of my writer's interest in his personality, I was most attracted by precisely the sphere of his activity, which the president himself recently called "soft power." And, looking ahead, I cannot help expressing great surprise that this very important component of government efforts was “addressed” by the head of state primarily to international relations issues, although in solving internal political problems today, it’s “soft power” that has I would say it is of exceptional importance, which prompted me to put this topic in the subtitle of the book.

Today, President Putin is noticeably different from the one we knew before. In my, perhaps, subjective opinion, undoubtedly, for the better. And by the vague notion of “better,” I mean the new, heightened interest of the head of state in matters directly or indirectly related to the final formulation of the state ideology of the new Russia, which I wrote many times ago many years ago. In other words, all to the same "soft power."

Zero years of the XXI century, coupled with the upcoming period of the presidency of V.V. Putin, taking into account the path that Russia has already followed after the disaster of the 1990s, and the extent of the distance it has yet to go, will inevitably raise the question of historical the role of Putin, who led and continues to lead the country at a very crucial, crucial stage in its historical development.

TWO LINES

Soviet periodization began with a ten-year reign of the left-radical Leninist guard, which launched a great country on brushwood for the fire of the world revolution. The next seven years were transitional: picking up “household” stones scattered in the political pogrom was combined with the continued denial of Russian identity and leftist leaning into international culture. But the country's growing economic power inevitably had to come into conflict with spiritual nihilism, which hindered the rise. This was announced by the shot of Mayakovsky, a truly talented poet, stuck in the dead ends of leftist art. As in economics, the authorities suggested a vector for the spiritual development of society: in 1934, they introduced a new course of history at school, created the Academy of Architecture, the Writers' Union.

Third Russia begins

It existed until the mid-fifties, when the passionate energy of the red hundreds, whose numbers were undermined by the war, dried up. And the faithful Leninist, Khrushchev, began squandering national wealth (Crimea), demolishing churches and blaspheme Russian antiquity. The vicious idea of ​​a worldwide triumph of socialism re-emerged on the agenda, and the USSR got involved in a cold world war, squandering resources to support the so-called progressive regimes, in essence, reviving the fanatical idea of ​​Bolshevik messianism.

The place of the red hundreds was taken by the philistinism, about which Gorky wrote: "This class consists of people deprived of stable form, amorphous, easily taking any form ... Yesterday - a socialist, today - a fascist, just to eat hearty and irresponsible to command." It is not difficult to understand that these were precisely those educators about whom Solzhenitsyn lamented.

The system that emerged under Khrushchev was initially unstable. Politically, it was considered the basis of the CPSU, performing state functions. But in order to understand the causes of the third civil war, its consequences and the Russian historical path in general, it is useful to divert from politicized assessments. In fact, the CPSU was only a shell for the amorphous bourgeois mass that dominated the USSR in the post-Stalin era. This shell, the bourgeois flesh of flesh, holding within itself what was called Soviet society, took different forms - depending on the moods of the educated, increasingly tilting towards the well-fed West, in competition with which Khrushchev got involved. When the list became critical, the shell broke, existing only formally in the years of perestroika. Diverse elements of society that have fought for domination have fallen out of it. The property question, allegedly the main one, was simply used as an incident belli - a pretext for war. If the political left won, the country would also go to the market. But - in the Chinese way.

Subsequent events with striking literalness, prompting them to raise their eyes to heaven, reproduced what happened after the revolution of 17. The decade 1990-x was a period of unchallenged power of right-wing neo-Bolsheviks and leftists from art, who sought to strangle the Orthodox Church with unbridled sectarian freedom. (Everyone remembers the desperate struggle around the law that limited sectarianism.) The next seven years, up to the global financial crisis, also turned out to be transitional, and in a familiar pattern: picking up “economic” stones scattered by non-Bolsheviks, who dissolved Russia in “universal human values”, combined with neglect of the values ​​of national culture, the increase in propaganda of immorality, bad tastes.

Meanwhile, in 2008 Russia came to a turning point - the presidential election, the inevitable change of the “king”. And the question: “What's next?” - rose to its full height.

Responding to it today after the fact, it is necessary to take into account that in the national, depoliticized system of coordinates, the historical movement of Russia proceeds along two autonomous lines. One of them was designated clearly: Lenin - Khrushchev - Yeltsin. All three periods have similar features and are characterized by the impairment of national Russian traditions, the impoverishment of the spiritual life, neglect to the basic interests of Russia, attempts to “internationalize” it and, as a result, rapid or deferred (Khrushchev) economic decline. The heroes of the day were internationalists or general human beings, which is the same thing culturally detached from the people (Khrushchev’s attacks on abstractionists and the dispersal of the “bulldozer exhibition” made the representatives of left art the heroes of the day).

The other line includes periods when Russian interests were put at the forefront, relied on a system of national moral and cultural values, respected Russian antiquity, without giving up the best European trends. At such times, the sovereign power sharply increased, and the “Russian Europeans” became the role model - Moscow people (by the way, of many nationalities and geographically unattached to Moscow) of the pre-Peter warehouse, who remained faithful to the roots, but ready to perceive and creatively enrich modern world achievements. This line leads from Alexander III to Stalin.

What is the trajectory of the historical movement that Russia went after the presidential election of 2008 of the year?

Recalling that election cycle, it should be noted that initially the overwhelming majority of the people preferred the simplest and clearest option: it is necessary to change the Constitution and leave Putin for a third term. It is a mistake to assume that this point of view was rooted in any “pleasures to the authorities,” a flattery of officialdom and other purely tactical circumstances. If not with the mind, then, as they say, everyone knew in their heads: the country once again approached the historical fork, and did not want change. Putin’s refusal to run for a third term led to the fact that society, the authorities and the people were in a psychological dead end.

Most of the "augurs" agreed that Putin would propose a weak or ill successor to return to the Kremlin in a couple of years at the request of the people ...

In order to get out of the difficult fortune-telling of that period and realize what is actually happening, it is necessary again to move from politics to understanding the ethno-cultural shifts going on in the country. Even Stalin could not arbitrarily determine the historical movement of Russia, he only guessed the mentality of the red hundreds and headed them. Apparently, in the zero years of the 21st century, the authorities also felt the increasing pressure of multinational common people, dissatisfied with the devastation of 1990's and the overwhelming dominance of foreign trends.

The collapse of the CPSU and the collapse of the USSR, the third civil war, which took the form of perestroika and a change in the social system, when, according to Blok, “the law broke about the law”, the former Soviet society shook up much. The abolition of all sorts of restrictions, including the institution of registration, career dependence on membership in the CPSU, led to the fact that analogous blacks (with innate religious consciousness) and red hundreds, who dream of climbing to different levels of regional and federal authorities. In addition, opinion polls have long shown the growing discontent with oblivion of moral values, in connection with which large claims are made to television.

However, the spread of new means of communication, above all the Internet, has had a special, exceptional effect on the people's speculation. According to the experience of color revolutions, especially Egyptian, it is considered that network methods of communication lead to an increase in the role of the advanced, read, protest-minded strata of society. But in Russia, the opposite is true: it is the Internet that has greatly influenced the growth of self-awareness of the deep, common people, allowing millions of ordinary poor, but ambitious young people to break out of the humiliation of everyday life with their minds and hearts to join the newness of the current “IT-friendly” life and urge them to its peaks - first municipal, and then higher ...

IPHONE AND CAPTURE

The extraordinary similarity of the phases of the Russian historical movement is a non-random chronological coincidence. In a country with a rich historical past and deep cultural roots, it is not right-wing political fights that have a decisive influence on the course of development, but the confrontation between two ethnocultural types of people formed in pre-Peter the Great and Peter the Great. This feature, unknown to Europe, gives our dialogue with the West the character of a civilizational dispute, and our spiritual values ​​- extraordinary vitality, even in conditions of total television pressure.
Russia has always been able to find answers to the challenges of the time that are new to world practice. And it was precisely such an absolutely non-standard answer that was found in 2008: a fundamentally new mechanism of transfer and preservation of power was created, ideally fitting into the constitutional framework, absolutely legitimate and democratic. This mechanism is called "tandem".

There is no need to talk in detail about how many stinging arrows were fired against the Putin – Medvedev tandem, how they blasphemed and continue to blaspheme him in Russia and other parts of the world. But these arrows are poisoned solely by political poison, the current world-wide Internet party is not accustomed to taking into account the trajectory of the historical movement of great states, did not understand that this is not just about someone's personal agreements, but about the mechanism of transfer of power - and not in the name of power as such, but in order to preserve the country's sustainable development.

Political thought immediately began to chew on the topic of the liberal Medvedev and the traditionalist Putin, although it later turned out that Medvedev always turned out to be a conservative, and this deeply disappointed his supporters. However, as always, much more important differences between the members of the tandem were overlooked: Medvedev fits very well into Petersburg, in other words, Peter’s ethnocultural type, which, of course, has nothing to do with his Leningrad origin, and Putin clearly belongs to the ethnocultural type of black or red hundreds, that is, before Peter the Great. (Putin himself understands a more precise definition of his type, since at this historical stage the vital interests of the black and red hundreds coincide.)

And it was precisely these very significant differences between Medvedev and Putin with striking, truly frightening similarity that led to the repetition of the confrontation that arose during the second civil war between the Red Hundreds and the Leninist guards of the radical Bolsheviks. Fortunately, this time it was not and could not go about repression, but from the point of view of political mutual aversion and rage began to go off-scale.

The similarity is not external in nature. The so-called protest movement of disgruntled townspeople, whom Medvedev and Surkov rashly called the advanced part of society, largely consists of descendants of the repressed Leninist guard, who especially defeated Stalin, and if again distracting themselves from political categories, from supporters of Russia's universal path, rejecting its dominion . It is no coincidence that the Ekho Moskvy website, which became the ideological inspirer of the protest and where Putin is violently annihilated, does not say a word about the disastrous Yeltsin decade: in the ethnocultural sense, Yeltsin’s line on dissolving Russia in the world supranational space is quite consonant with Lenin’s international plans. The Leninist-Khrushchev line was also clearly manifested in the far-overlapped atheistic criticism of transcendent attacks on the Russian Orthodox Church. But the strongest evidence on this point is, perhaps, the leftist leader of Udaltsov, the grandson of the inflexible Leninist, after whom one of the Moscow streets is named. Here the similarity is truly literal. A descendant of the Bolshevik revolutionary calls Putin an impostor, refusing to recognize his presidency ...

In this connection, it is interesting to recall the history of the creation of national anthems. Stalin was attracted in the Mikhalkov version of the word "Russia", and Putin used Soviet music in combination with the old Russian coat of arms and tricolor flag, trying to emphasize the continuity of all stages of Russian history. By the way, the absence of the word "Rus" in dozens of other versions of the text submitted to Stalin reflected the secret protest of the "Kataev" intelligentsia against the sovereign course. And we all remember the hot bouts, right up to the demonstrative exit of some deputies from the State Duma meeting hall, when Putin proposed the current national anthem.

It is interesting from this point of view to assess the fierce struggle around the exam, at one time approved by Putin. With all the imperfections of the Unified State Exam, he widely opened the way to higher education specifically for the children of the provincial “Red hundred”. And steep assaults on the USE by the protest intelligentsia, perhaps unconsciously for her, reflect her final disengagement from the new type of Russian people (again, not in an ethnic sense), which is being formed in provincial Russia.

These and other discrepancies between Putin and Medvedev led to a very curious phenomenon. An admirer of Western pop groups, arch-promoted on the part of the Internet Medvedev, whom the network community dubbed Ayfonchik, saw in modern means of communication only a useful technical innovation that facilitates Russia's entry into the world family of civilized nations. (I forgot, Medvedev forgot wise Pushkin, who bequeathed: “Enter Europe, but stay Russia!”) And Putin, who deliberately met Obama with a Russian samovar, boot and a man in a red shirt, managed to see on the Internet a powerful means of awakening provincial Russia ...
Barely enthroned in the Kremlin, in his first presidential address, Vladimir Putin said: “The development of society is unthinkable without agreement on common goals. And these goals are not only material, spiritual and moral are just as important. The main thing is to understand: what kind of Russia we believe in and what kind of Russia we want to see. ” Alas, the socio-economic and political routine, the personnel roundabouts of the following years, put Putin’s first intuitive sentiments into the background. But today life itself demands a return to them ...

Will there be a Munich speech on internal topics?

In the first half of 1990, some assistant (or adviser?) Yeltsin, apparently in charge of humanitarian issues, convinced his patron that the new Russia, which had replaced the rough Soviet-communist skin with like market covers, badly needed a new national idea. This ridiculous propaganda idea failed very quickly. Someone else jokingly, or seriously, in the absence of other sprouts of public interest, would not mind coming to national unity through football hockey and other sporting passions.

But one way or another, it seems that the national idea in its classical understanding in the new Russian open spaces is not expected. And in this regard, the sacramental question suddenly arises: does it really need this national idea? After all, if we ignore the approaches of the former Yeltsin advisers and current communist leaders who tried to redefine the famous triad of the XIX century in a new way, we will have to admit that in all the centuries-old history of Russia, what is now called the national idea was only twice. This is “Moscow is the Third Rome!” Of the elder Philotheus and the Uvarov formula “Orthodoxy, autocracy, nationality”. In other periods of our history, very, by the way, bright - for example, under Ivan the Terrible, under Peter I, under Catherine II - was this clear, well-rounded national idea? And aren't these two formulas forever stamped on state tablets and gold script drawn in the minds of all Russian generations, only a special case, just a very successful verbal reflection of some other, more important and deep-seated state-historical processes that can successfully to develop in the absence of slogan support?

This comment is directly related to President Vladimir Putin. And even formally, given the sufficient length of the period during which Vladimir Vladimirovich is already and will still be at the helm of the Russian ship. Meanwhile, the answer to the question: “Is the leader of the nation or an employee?” Has a very deep and not at all formal meaning.

For the essential concept of “leader of the nation” imposes special obligations on the president, far beyond his personal preferences, and special responsibility. When they say that we need a king, this phrase must be correctly understood. This is a deep historical tradition, which, changing its internal content, nevertheless remains extremely important and in demand for the people and the development of the country as a whole.

The centuries-long autocracy that forms the basis of the tsarist tradition ended in March 1953 with the death of Stalin. And the further gradual decline of the country was not least connected with the uncertainty that the Supreme Ruler personified in the eyes of the people.

The president, who declared himself an “employee” in 2002, is not needed by Russia. And Putin’s then super-modest self-denial of self-denial can only be explained by one thing: Putin accidentally, by coincidence, found himself at the highest state post and internally, with his inherent decency, he still couldn’t believe it, not realizing that it was not his personal perception now what happened, but about the attitude of the people to the supreme power in general ...
Putin only today, after difficult elections for him, got a chance to become a true king - in the sense of a true national leader, burdened with the greatest obligations towards the entire people of Russia. However, does Putin himself fully understand what responsibility now lies on his shoulders?

Meanwhile, time is not waiting. The royal authority arises precisely in the first, major, defining days. And responsibility to the people should be higher than personal obligations. The people are tired of diarchy, from the endless struggle under the carpet. The people are waiting for the Munich speech on our home themes, and not about “tightening” the nuts or loosening them, but about abruptly, with one blow of the royal word, do away with the bureaucratic fuss, take all the responsibility on ourselves - and in the sphere of power solve everything in your own way ...

Putin will be able to become such a high moral authority - everything in Russia will go fine, like clockwork. It will continue to be tactful in dealing with personnel issues, it is too vigilant to take into account all sorts of side interests, and in fact, to share with someone the supreme power - does not recognize its people as king, and those who overwhelmingly elected him as president will refuse it.

NO, NOT A “HUNDRED WORKER”

The fact that Vladimir Putin, who returned to the Kremlin, began to change, is noticeable by many factors. I once wrote that Putin of a second term (2004 – 2008) locked himself in the bureaucratic circle, and today we see that the president invites governors for talks - with the whole team, and by no means bureaucratic, he carefully listens to people from the bottom of life. He calls miners to Moscow - not just for a holiday, but for advice. This, of course, particular, minor details, but they are combined with other important innovations.

And yet, what is happening now very much resembles the deepest epiphany of the unforgettable Mikhail Saltykov-Shchedrin Evgrafovich, who wrote the famous cycle called “In an environment of moderation and accuracy”. Carefully, step by step, Putin goes to his goal - almost the same way he did it ten years ago, when the country was balancing on the verge of non-existence and any wrong move could again throw it to the abyss. But the situation has changed dramatically since then. And not only in terms of strengthening the Russian state, but also in terms of popular speculation. Having recovered from the 1990's ills, buying annually more new cars than in Germany, but still remaining in the tenacious embraces of “domestic slavery”, policeman, Zhekhehovsky and other lawlessness, people are increasingly perplexed: well, now what prevents to hit the fist on the table? ..

It is clear and obvious for people who are closely observing state affairs that Putin is making great efforts so that our Western partners (and actually competitors!) Do not drag us into any international conflicts using external force.

And indeed, some people in the West would very much like to drag us into a hot conflict like Afghanistan. However, these "someone" more and more clearly understand: it will not work! will not work! Today, for Putin, the main task is to collect lands: the strengthening of the Customs Union, the creation of the EurAsEC. And at the same time - the arrangement of a powerful defense shield, so that it would not come to anyone’s heads to try us for strength, using missile defense and so on. And it is precisely the futility of trying to draw us into an external adventure, coupled with a radical, super-modern renewal of the defense shield, that prompts our eternal western partners to resort to the only remaining, but well tested, method of weakening Russia - the creation of internal instability in the country.

It can not be that Putin did not understand this. But if he understands, then why does he allow himself to insult himself on the Internet with almost vulgar abuse? In general, what kind of national leader, who is covered in the world, being covered with network anonymity, is thrown with words from side to side, like a matchbox?

Yes, you can be above this, do not pay attention to this nonsense, and sometimes paid calculation. But these are personal, human considerations, the philosophy of the “hired worker”, despite everything, and despite everything, persistently and conscientiously doing his work. But is it possible not to think about how bitterly the people perceive merciless insults to the national leader? And this is not the point to prohibit, censor and so on and so forth.

But answer!

To answer so calmly, firmly and with dignity, so that people deeply respecting and electing their national leader would be proud of their chosen one.
How proud in those days when Russian President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin spoke with his famous Munich speech, announcing to the whole world about Russia's full-fledged return to the geopolitical scene, announcing our active participation in solving complex international issues of the modern world, which is at a turning point in its development, associated with the completion of the centuries-old Western dominant and the movement of the global center of gravity to other regions.

That “soft power” in international relations, about which President Putin spoke, speaking before Russian diplomats, is now coming to the fore in the internal political life of the country, acquiring a new, modern meaning and sound.

But will the president have enough hardness for “soft power”?
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  1. +7
    10 October 2012 08: 21
    You can write anything. We will look at the results of labor, and descendants will give an assessment of him as a person. for the most part, those who did not participate write history when there are no more living witnesses
    1. +9
      10 October 2012 08: 49
      Quote: andrei332809
      and the descendants will give him an assessment of how personality. the story

      And why the descendants? Each year, each country is rated by contemporaries. There are achievements - there are!
      Rating of Russia 2012
      The overall rating of Russia in the ranking of the countries of the world is 59th place, between Romania and Mongolia. This year, the standard of living in Russia grew by 4 points. It should be noted that last year Russia took 63rd place in the ranking of countries of the world, in 2010 - 69th.

      In terms of economic indicators, Russia dropped in the ranking from 64th place to 72nd.
      Opportunity for entrepreneurship - 50th place.
      The level of corruption and the effectiveness of governing the country is 96th (there were 101).

      The quality of education in Russia is 34th (there were 38).

      In terms of health, Russia ranks 42nd in the ranking (was 47). Life expectancy in Russia is still quite short - 60 years. (average life expectancy in developed countries 70-75 years),
      Russia also remained 82nd in the security rating. But still, 48% of Russians feel safe, moving around the streets at night - this is a low figure on a global scale, but it is higher than last year (35%)

      Freedom of citizens - 87th place (was 88th) in the overall ranking of the countries of the world.

      Social life. In the ranking, Russia rose to 48th place (from 53rd). Russians trust relatives and friends, but do little to help strangers.

      And yes, today I saw the news. Prices for seats in reserved seats will increase by 60%, but why, why in reserved seats? And they explained to us - for the sustainability of their business activities carriers
      1. wall
        +7
        10 October 2012 09: 30
        Quote: Vadivak
        Prices for seats in reserved seats will increase by 60%, and why, why in reserved seats? And they explained to us - for the sustainability of their business activities carriers

        Once again, the poor are still poorer. Well, they’re not used to it. It's only the beginning.
        1. mongoose
          -7
          10 October 2012 10: 04
          do you think it’s better to stay in general without passenger rail?
          1. wall
            +6
            10 October 2012 10: 19
            Quote: mongoose
            do you think it’s better to stay in general without passenger rail?

            Well, justify to us, dear, the expediency of increasing by 60% the most affordable and massive means of public transportation around the country. That is very interesting.
            1. +7
              10 October 2012 10: 22
              Now, by plane, to Moscow is comparable to a train ticket. Excuse the service from Russian Railways. But he is a monopolist and do not care for him ...
            2. +5
              10 October 2012 14: 16
              Quote: wall
              Quote: mongoose
              do you think it’s better to stay in general without passenger rail?

              Well, justify to us, dear, the expediency of increasing by 60% the most affordable and massive means of public transportation around the country. That is very interesting.


              Easy to settle: MONEY IS VERY NEEDED!
              Last summer, Russian Railways made a decision to reduce the number of commuter trains and is persistently implementing it, despite the fact that it was said about the inadmissibility of this at different levels. And what do you think, how did they explain it ?! Low collection rates for commuter trains .... Yes, just imagine, top managers believe that deteriorating service conditions will increase collection rates. What "radishes" are they after ?! I always bought a ticket, but because now I have to "drive" into the train carriage every morning, I no longer think about buying a ticket, I think about the question of where to get up in order to get on the carriage and go to work.
          2. +5
            10 October 2012 10: 25
            So they will soon become unavailable with such prices either. A ticket to Moscow on Transaero 4500 (two hours of flight, plus food and drinks on the plane). Russian Railways - reserved seat 2500 (!!!) Coupe even about 4000 (on the way 25 hours, food at your own expense), so count, plus you still need to rest after the train ...
            1. +2
              11 October 2012 05: 09
              The railway is a moloch eating up money of ordinary citizens, at the head of this state mafia there are crooks and Thieves. Ordinary railway workers have a salary of 15-20 thousand locomotive drivers, depending on the road, 30-60 thousand. The salary of the head of the depot is 200-250 thousand, the heads of departments of the road 300 thousand, the head of the road - 1 million, and the above is not measured. And how many steal. And the article is harmful, lying through and through, especially relating to the development of the country. So the author wants to lick ,,,,,,,
              1. 0
                11 October 2012 08: 42
                Quote: valokordin

                The railway is a moloch eating up money of ordinary citizens, at the head of this state mafia there are crooks and Thieves. Ordinary railway workers have a salary of 15-20 thousand locomotive drivers, depending on the road, 30-60 thousand. The salary of the head of the depot is 200-250 thousand, the heads of departments of the road 300 thousand, the head of the road - 1 million, and the above is not measured.

                100% agree! you + dear! there is really one thing in rzhd thieves! I worked with them as a contractor. scammers!!!
                my opinion - it is necessary to make the chief of all piece of iron Chubais! those who are against - keep in mind that worse than now is simply impossible to do!
          3. +6
            10 October 2012 11: 02
            Quote: mongoose
            is it better to stay in general without passenger rail?


            ???? It’s about a reserved seat, raise SV, coupe, touch the rich
        2. +7
          10 October 2012 14: 06
          Quote: wall
          Quote: Vadivak
          Prices for seats in reserved seats will increase by 60%, and why, why in reserved seats? And they explained to us - for the sustainability of their business activities carriers

          Once again, the poor are still poorer. Well, they’re not used to it. It's only the beginning.

          The state has long realized that the easiest way is to take money from the poor. Of course they don’t have much money, but the poor - to hell.
      2. +4
        10 October 2012 09: 58
        Vadim, and whoever actually creates these ratings simply touches
        Quote: Vadivak
        Russia in the ranking of countries of the world - 59th place, between Romania and Mongolia

        Quote: Vadivak
        Freedom of citizens - 87th place

        Hourly non-US rating agency laughing They are all preoccupied with freedom there.
        Quote: Vadivak

        And yes, today I saw the news. Prices for seats in reserved seats will increase by 60%, but why, why in reserved seats? And they explained to us - for the sustainability of their business activities carriers

        Nationalize nafig Russian Railways and do not deal with nonsense, there is no limit to the rise in prices and will not be seen
        1. wall
          +4
          10 October 2012 10: 10
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Nationalize nafig Russian Railways and do not deal with nonsense, there is no limit to the rise in prices and will not be seen

          Here is a specially for you, dear, quote from Wikipedia: Owners and management: The sole shareholder of the company is the Russian Federation. On her behalf, the powers of the shareholder are exercised by the Government of the Russian Federation. It approves the position of president of the company, annually forms a board of directors and approves annual reports.
          Read at your leisure.
          1. +1
            10 October 2012 10: 33
            Quote: wall

            Here is a quote from Wikipedia specially for you, dear:

            Dear, I don’t read Vika. You won’t believe it, but I live in Russia and face many problems in my life personally. Judging from the personal experience of my life.
        2. +5
          10 October 2012 10: 15
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Hourly non-US rating agency

          Sasha, I don’t agree here, I can freely go to Red Square and freely say Obama - a goat
        3. mongoose
          -6
          10 October 2012 10: 19
          what for? nationalize? what would it contain from the budget? and managers had many different beggars?
          1. +3
            10 October 2012 10: 35
            Quote: mongoose

            what for? nationalize? to keep it from the budget

            Now out of our pocket, probably better yes what
            Quote: mongoose
            and managers had many different beggars?

            Sorry, but now the managers that have?
            1. mongoose
              -5
              10 October 2012 10: 46
              but not out of our pocket
              1. +4
                10 October 2012 11: 07
                Quote: mongoose
                but not out of our pocket

                And from whom? I haven’t been so surprised for a long time belay
      3. S_mirnov
        +1
        10 October 2012 12: 38
        This is the tact that should be given to the president
        http://avn.armiavn.com/about/law.html
        only our government is very afraid of this assessment, it’s easier, of course, to report on TV, if anyone checks the info, then it can only spit on the screen.

        As for the article, it is quite natural to expect a licking of the rear of the GDP in connection with the anniversary.
        As for the "Munich speech" and the people awaiting it - I do not agree!
        The people have already heard a lot of speeches from GDP, by the very tomatoes! But the Munich affairs, something is not visible, however, the people have already figured out what to expect from GDP.
        http://demotivation.me/5f4jrw7koz5ypic.html
        http://demotivation.me/i1f4tisx0o19pic.html
        http://www.nr2.ru/policy/407388.html
        about such people they say "swing for a ruble, blow for a penny"
      4. -1
        10 October 2012 13: 33
        Have you ever thought who orders and pays for these ratings ????? Yes, yes, there are such results! According to their ratings, we will never, by any indicator, go up, we will always be between Gabon and New Guinea !!! Who pays, he dances the girl!
      5. +2
        10 October 2012 18: 16
        Roughly speaking, I did not care about all sorts of international ratings of his presidency there. I have one, personal assessment of his work - Since the time of his first term, a huge hole in the asphalt shines in the courtyard of our house, and to this day has not been patched up and I do not care about the geopolitical reasons for this situation. If you failed to create normal conditions for the life of citizens of the country, then the price is worthless.
      6. 0
        10 October 2012 21: 25
        Ratings are one side of the coin. But after reading the article, I caught myself thinking that some time ago I began to look more closely at Putin "version 2,0". And here I agree with the author of the article - the GDP very carefully, almost indistinctly moves our monstrous management system, with its corruption, nepotism and arrogance, towards a more civilized one, or something. More transparent, more strict, more legal.
        I don’t think that at least one person (except our shit, of course) seriously believes that the whole system can be changed in a year. Or for five. In general, the education of the elite is a historical process. Therefore, dozens of years.
        In general, I somehow began to feel that Putin has changed. He became different. A little, but distinct. He began to treat the West more sharply, more attentive (but without naivety) to the East, began to tighten up and change ministers. These trifles are actually not trifles at all - remember that under Putin "version 1,0" absolutely any idler sat in ministers quite calmly, not worrying about his fate.
        The situation is similar to the development of Stalin - he did not touch his own while there were strangers. And when everyone became their own, each sister received her earrings. Without hesitation and excuses.
        Maybe we come to responsible management today? Not in the 30's version, of course, the wrong world, and we are not the same, but still?
      7. 0
        10 October 2012 21: 59
        bullshit, these ratings, from its bell tower evaluate us.
    2. +3
      10 October 2012 13: 21
      Serial production of the promising fifth-generation fighter T-50 (PAK FA) will begin by 2020. About this, as reported by RIA Novosti, on Wednesday, October 10, said Russian Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov.

      Previously, serial production of the aircraft was planned to begin in 2015., And small-scale production - already in 2013. The arrival of the first aircraft to the Ministry of Defense was expected by 2016. What caused the delay in the start of mass production of aircraft, Serdyukov did not specify.
      1. +2
        10 October 2012 13: 30
        Quote: Joker

        Serial production of the promising fifth-generation fighter T-50 (PAK FA) will begin by 2020.

        Not long ago, one argued here that soon we would re-equip the Air Force, but probably re-equip it, but not with this Minister. I remember Ivanov long ago said that the first T-50 squadron will be with us in 2012. In short and in the end, what do we stay with? pathos, how much URA was on the site, but the point of this is 0. You need to throw all your strength on SU -30,35 now and order dozens a year each, and not smear for years.
        1. +3
          10 October 2012 13: 55
          But it’s not only the Stool of wine, where Putin is looking? This, it seems, was one of the campaign promises, reforming and re-equipping the army. As a result, we’ll reduce the army now, they will cut money there and dump it, as is usually done in our country.
          1. +2
            10 October 2012 14: 33
            Quote: Joker
            Where is Putin looking? It’s like one of his campaign promises was the reform and rearmament of the army

            Yes, they are reforming, he is fully fulfilling his promises, we just didn’t understand him correctly, that by reform he meant
            Quote: Joker
            we’ll reduce the army now, they’ll cut money there and dump it

            In general, yes, something like this request
        2. FATEMOGAN
          -1
          11 October 2012 01: 44
          Before wailing that everything was gone, read the news carefully:
          -Anatoly Serdyukov on Wednesday said that fifth-generation export fighters will become serial in 2020. export . although if you live abroad, you will really see it no earlier than 2020
      2. 0
        10 October 2012 23: 55
        Already understood.
        We are talking about export version
        Read on the next branch.
  2. +3
    10 October 2012 08: 36
    But we are power! Only we, thanks to our ancestors, will always choose our path on intuition And let them hiccup there smile
    1. 0
      10 October 2012 17: 38
      People ...... are you waiting for the Munich speech? wink
  3. mongoose
    +3
    10 October 2012 08: 40
    I think that's enough, we really have to get nihilism out of the brains of young people, the time has come for PATRIOTISM AND LOVE FOR THE MOTHERLAND, and the nihillist must become an outcast, all these magazines and their generation brought up ...
    1. +10
      10 October 2012 09: 08
      Quote: mongoose
      it's time to get nihilism out of the brains of youth


      Why is there nihilism - just brains, maybe besides knocking out something to try -, for example, to learn
    2. mar.tira
      +5
      10 October 2012 09: 59
      Quote: mongoose
      time of PATRIOTISM AND LOVE FOR THE HOMELAND,

      So, each one understands these words in his own way. To the extent of his upbringing and convictions. In calmer (Soviet) times, patriotism and love for the motherland were beyond the limits. And after the destruction of our ideals, (by the way, by the ideologists themselves), oh oh how long have to restore them
  4. 0
    10 October 2012 08: 49
    And it’s just that everything has its time, the turn will reach those who openly slander the national leader ...
    The Russians do not scream like the Americans on every corner in order to intimidate, the Russians silently do as they need and remove the one they need !!!
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +3
      10 October 2012 09: 53
      Yes, everything has its own time but ... Time does not work for RUSSIA.! Where is the confiscation law? Instead, a fine! Does Medvedev protect his companions and after that respect the authorities and the Duma? No wonder they were called PZhiV! You need to re-elect them all! 20 years! so everyone fell in love with each other! I will save no! And thugs with power and power with oligarchs
      1. mongoose
        -8
        10 October 2012 10: 21
        you do not confuse or what? and nihilist? speak alive? Well, you know better in the mirror
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          10 October 2012 11: 02
          Mongoose are you this to me? I do not belong to the PZhiV clan!
          1. mongoose
            -3
            10 October 2012 11: 50
            you belong, and it is to him, in this clan the Nemtsovs, Kasparovs, Udaltsovs and other thieves' swamp hang out, howling because they were kicked out in the 90s
            1. +3
              10 October 2012 15: 29
              mongoose,
              I didn’t understand something, and here are these:
              Nemtsovs, Kasparovs, Udaltsovs and other thieves' swamp, howling because they were kicked out in the 90s

              some left - others came, with even greater greed grabbing at them, apparently they were hooked by the 2012 film ... request
  5. snek
    +2
    10 October 2012 08: 57
    Who cares about Putin, who cares. he is "at the helm" for another 12 years and, as they say, I like it - I don't like it - sleep, my beauty.
    1. mongoose
      -4
      10 October 2012 09: 14
      Did you forget to turn on the fan?
      1. snek
        +4
        10 October 2012 09: 21
        Are you talking to your "shit on the fan"? Funny, I note, you have fetishes, but fantasies (albeit coprophilic) are everyone's business and I will not condemn them.
        1. mongoose
          -2
          10 October 2012 09: 38
          still did not forget winked
  6. +4
    10 October 2012 09: 00
    "It can not be that Putin did not understand this. But if he understands, then why does he allow himself to insult himself on the Internet with almost vulgar abuse? In general, what kind of national leader, who is covered in the world, being covered with network anonymity, is thrown with words from side to side, like a matchbox?

    Yes, you can be higher than this, not pay attention to this nonsense, and sometimes a paid calculation. But these are personal, human considerations, the philosophy of the "employee", "
    - really warps. Once you have chosen, respect at least for the period of the Board, because he represents the state. What to be compared to the western ubl ... uh. fools? Spitting on Putin, spitting on those 60% of their compatriots. Well, if you don’t like the majority of Russians, cattle and all that jazz - live in Finland, satisfyingly comfortable, NO CHILDREN TOUCH, what question?
    1. DYMITRY
      0
      10 October 2012 09: 30
      Quote: aksakal
      Well, if you do not like most Russians, cattle and all that jazz - live in Finland

      Good day, dear!
      Unfortunately, this part of society will not go anywhere. First of all, because in the depths of their souls they themselves realize their worthlessness. They do not know how to work, neither with their hands nor with their heads. All they are capable of is shifting papers from place to place, for the most part not creating any product. All over the world there are enough of their own such idlers, and they do not need ours at all. And here they, not only can earn money for an iPhone, also amuse self-esteem. After all, they are not some kind of hard workers trash, they are "fighters against bloody tyranny" !!!! So the Finns will not be able to fuse them with all their desire. We'll have to reeducate here.
      1. maxon109
        +3
        10 October 2012 09: 46
        whom do you call cattle ??? hard workers ??? You look at yourself louse computer
        1. DYMITRY
          0
          10 October 2012 09: 56
          Quote: maxon109

          whom do you call cattle ??? hard workers ??? You look at yourself louse computer

          Bother to read my comment carefully
    2. wall
      +7
      10 October 2012 09: 53
      Quote: aksakal
      NO ONE TOUCH CHILDREN

      that's about children is not necessary. Juvenile justice on the march. And our problems will begin soon. Just look at their lobby in the Duma. Not by washing, so by skating these comrades stubbornly go to their goal. Ask a question at your leisure.
  7. -1
    10 October 2012 09: 22
    Undoubtedly, the current president of the Russian Federation is the continuer of the line of Alexander III - Stalin.
    1. Region71
      +2
      10 October 2012 09: 36
      Quote: comrade Misha
      Undoubtedly, the current president of the Russian Federation is the continuer of the line of Alexander III - Stalin.
      I can’t be silent, rezanulo. Compare Putin with a man who after death left only his personal things to his family and the people a powerful state. Rather, he is the continuer of the line Yaponchik (Ivankov Vyacheslav Kirillovich) -Givi (Barasadze Givi Alexandrovich).
      1. mongoose
        -5
        10 October 2012 09: 41
        young man, do not talk nonsense! my respect for I.V.Dzhugashvilli is caused not by the fact that he left the darned port, but by his deeds for the Salvation of Russia! and accordingly to V.V. Putin the attitude is the same
        1. +6
          10 October 2012 09: 55
          Quote: mongoose
          not that he left the darned port


          Not socks but socks,

          However, we list - two tunics, one ceremonial, the second daily worker, a pair of worn goat boots and several pairs of darn socks.

          And your opponent probably meant the lack of accounts in Swiss banks, a villa in the Canary Islands, a seedy islet and a yacht with a submarine
          1. mongoose
            -4
            10 October 2012 10: 09
            and??? do you respect him for that and nothing more? But I respect him, for the fact that he turned his neck to Bolshevism and thanks to this, among other things, he won the Second World War? for the fact that he returned much from the arsenal of the Empire, abolished the commissariats, returned the ministries, screwed one-man command into the army, returned the "golden shoulder straps" to an almost tsarist uniform, and stopped the persecution of Vera. restored the industry to the level of the Empire, albeit really at the expense of the poverty of the people, but he did not destroy the industry during the period of Jewish omnipotence, and without it Guderian tanks would have reached the Urals in 41


            it means in your opinion it should be respected? although the Bolsheviks didn’t refuse pebbles and furs, yes
            villas? bills, yachts ???? and here I am why about sure that dock. Goebels about the same squealed more than once! laughing
            1. +8
              10 October 2012 10: 22
              Quote: mongoose
              you respect him for that and nothing more?


              Not only, for example, I always liked the point of view of the temporary detention facility on communism; communism is an optimal economy, which is identical to the concepts of fraternal ultimate centralization, concern for the future and sacred common property.
              1. mongoose
                -7
                10 October 2012 10: 49
                communism? and what is it and what does it eat with? and as they say find ten differences from state capitalism?
                as our people like to dry noodles on our ears laughing
                sacred common property? is it like when all the women are common? sacred? fear God! you are the God-fighters and you cannot have anything sacred!
                zs the "presence" of common property did not prevent some from starving after work, others, rubbing a corn on their tongue, to eat caviar
                1. +3
                  10 October 2012 11: 07
                  Quote: mongoose
                  is it like when all the women are common?


                  Why are you like Comrade Stalin? You write

                  Quote: mongoose
                  But I respect him,

                  Thats not like
                  Quote: mongoose
                  fear God! you are the fighters


                  Here, I don’t understand at all. Bring me the evidence of my God-fight, otherwise you’ll also be a liar, and by the way, we didn’t drink
                  1. mongoose
                    -5
                    10 October 2012 11: 52
                    as a "faithful" communist and not a God-fighter? oxymoron!
                2. +2
                  10 October 2012 11: 21
                  Quote: mongoose
                  communism? and what is it and what does it eat with?

                  Dima, please tell me which political and economic formation you are a supporter of and why? Only briefly and reasonably.
                  1. mongoose
                    +3
                    10 October 2012 12: 00
                    political and economic formation? nor what! because these are bare theories!
                    moreover, those who are called in one way or another to fool and rob their supporters in favor of the theorists of these formations, usually Jews!
                    What do I think is right?
                    1. A working person should not be poor! And there can be no justification for the poverty of the worker, including the construction of a "bright" future
                    2. The Ten Commandments have been given to us; there is not just one excuse for their ideological violation, including robbery-looted and he is also a thief! and the like about do not kill and stuff
                    3. Women are primarily mothers! everything else that prevents them from being mothers is evil!
                    4. Need help, for those who for some reason can not work! But we must proceed from the fact that I didn’t borrow from him (unlike the military, he borrowed the protection of life from him).
                    5. Idler should not be at my expense!
                    6. For Faith! Tsar (president)! And the Fatherland! not an empty phrase! And all three concepts are single and not separate for me! I do not want to become a Bolshevik or hairy or red.
                    1. +2
                      10 October 2012 12: 27
                      Quote: mongoose
                      mongoose (6)

                      Quote: mongoose

                      political and economic formation? nor what! because these are bare theories!

                      I heard, thanks.
      2. +2
        10 October 2012 09: 44
        Region71 and why silently minus? Do you like our rating? So this is not for me, okay, removed the topic, no offense
        1. Region71
          0
          10 October 2012 09: 47
          I apologize, I accidentally slammed in. I completely agree with you in the top post. And the ratings are all on the drum to be honest. Some kind of childhood, I've come from the army as a sergeant and am proud of this and not the local rating.
          1. +2
            10 October 2012 09: 50
            Quote: Region71
            I apologize, slapped inadvertently

            For some reason I thought so, so I asked a question
      3. -2
        10 October 2012 10: 09
        Quote: Region71
        Rather, he is the continuer of the Yaponchik line (Ivankov Vyacheslav Kirillovich) -Givi (Barasadze Givi Alexandrovich).



        Sir ..... facts to the studio ......

        And if they are not, then do not rush with such phrases ....... just like from a tabloid newspaper ........
        Read AIDS Info?
        1. Region71
          +2
          10 October 2012 14: 58
          Quote: volkan
          Sir ..... facts to the studio ......
          I don’t need to hang titles, Sir. As for the GDP. About 10 years ago on TV there was a report on the so-called Putin case. For the first time you heard that a criminal case was instituted against GDP? He just managed to get off, jumped to the premieres. Facts, I took scored Putin’s case in Google, one of the first that popped up http://oppositio.ru/publ/stati/ugolovnoe_delo_putina/9-1-0-283 http://www.ladno.ru/ccc/2588.html Reporting about it In fact, I saw with my own eyes, maybe someone else remembers.
          And you, dear, believe that our president, officials, Edra leaders buy real estate over the hill in their salaries, have multi accounts in foreign banks, etc., etc.
          Perhaps you are divorced from life, and if we say I say that the traffic police of Russia are entirely bribe takers, you will answer NOT THE TRUTH, GIVE FACTS.A if there are none, then do not rush with such phrases ....... just like from a tabloid newspaper ........
          Read AIDS Info?

          Oh, here’s the video after it. Well, if only I made a mistake in time, I admit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmxK6gtTJ14
          1. +2
            10 October 2012 16: 38
            Quote: Region71
            About 10 years ago on TV there was a report on the so-called Putin case.

            This is by accident not about the events in St. Petersburg in the 90s, the Austrian square, the Sobchak government, Putin, his deputy for foreign economic relations. What a vague story there, even the corpses seemed to be. Something flickered.
            1. Region71
              0
              10 October 2012 17: 04
              99th year, business of the 20th trust. And there were corpses, the most important corpse of A. Sobchak, who somehow left this mortal world so unexpectedly. By the way, before the presidential election, I tried to find information about this case on the Internet. And I didn’t find anything, links to sites gave errors or the sites themselves were full of viruses and pop-ups.
          2. -1
            10 October 2012 20: 32
            Quote: Region71
            Oh, here’s the video after it. Well, if only I made a mistake in time, I admit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmxK6gtTJ14


            You threw a cool link to the video here, at least you would have bothered to see where the video came from. Quote from the wiki:
            “First Information Caucasus” (Georgian პირველი საინფორმაციო კავკასიური) - Georgian Russian-language channel.
            .................................................. ..............................

            ...............................
            Channel ratings
            As the British television company BBC broadcast in July 2010, “many believe that the idea of ​​the Georgian government to launch the channel to the peak of Russia crashed, and the Paris verdict only formally put an end to the existence of the channel” [17]. According to Gia Khukhashvili, an expert and a member of the Club of Independent Experts, the rhetoric of Georgian public television has largely determined his image as the mouthpiece of the Georgian government, discrediting this project [17]. Caucasus expert Mamuka Areshidze believes that the channel is not of high quality, has a low artistic level and excessive politicization .....
            .................................................. ..
            You still come to their site www.pik.tv and having lost much more eyes will be opened: but it turns out in Russia, as it still happens

            About the rest of GOMNO what have you written here as they say "like two fingers obasphalt". As Kozma Prutkov used to say, "Look at the root" and many things will seem to you completely different from what they really are :))
            1. Region71
              +2
              10 October 2012 20: 43
              Quote: comrade Misha
              You threw a cool link to the video here, at least you would have bothered to see where the video came from. Quote from the wiki:
              “First Information Caucasus” (Georgian პირველი საინფორმაციო კავკასიური) - Georgian Russian-language channel.
              Don’t complain about it, I threw the first one. The exact same thing happened with the Russian TV. The thing is that Putin’s supporters are afraid to admit the obvious.
              1. -1
                10 October 2012 20: 58
                I'm not quibbling, you just look at just what is "Novaya Gazeta" which allegedly brought these facts into the light of day who is there and what is there, interesting names will pop up Latynin (the psychiatric hospital has been crying for it for a long time, you don't believe - listen to the "echo of matzo", muratov, M S. Gorbachev (the shareholder) and even dark affairs with D. Soros these publishers have in the “hall of fame.” In general, take a closer look at this rag and its inhabitants before saying such things.

                If you want, I can continue.
                1. Region71
                  +2
                  10 October 2012 21: 01
                  According to the investigator for particularly important cases, Zykov, who was running the Putin case, is the same psychiatric hospital crying for you? Why, then, is his interview so banned?
                  1. -1
                    10 October 2012 21: 08
                    Are you sure that this particular person was in charge of that case? I beg you, if there was something really worthwhile and there were relevant documents about it, all the Western monsters of the "pen" would have written about it long ago and not this pathetic tabloid rag.
                  2. -1
                    10 October 2012 21: 26
                    Quote: Region71
                    Why, then, is his interview so banned?


                    Why did you write this? specially not too lazy scored in Yandex "An interview with the former investigator for especially important cases Zykov" and lo and behold - 241 thousand answers, the top five as if the workers himself checked it was not too lazy, the conclusion suggests itself, why such misinformation?

                    And further. for the complete logical completion of the construction of your VVP-Japanese-Givi line, you forgot to mention the Ozero cooperative, well, this is probably due to haste or inexperience, the nonsense will soon pass. :))
                  3. -2
                    10 October 2012 21: 45
                    Quote: Region71
                    According to the investigator for particularly important cases, Zykov, who was running the Putin case, is the same psychiatric hospital crying for you? Why, then, is his interview so banned?

                    This is a conspiracy, do not hesitate, son, this is all the bloody regime of Pu (Ninavimnimprastim): D
      4. -2
        10 October 2012 11: 56
        It would be interesting to know what prompted you to think of the GDP-Japanese-Givi line, do you answer or, as usual in such cases, fart into the gap.
        1. Region71
          +2
          10 October 2012 15: 01
          He answered, look above, I am always responsible for my words. I'm not a politician.
          1. 0
            11 October 2012 20: 31
            you see in fact you turned out to be an ordinary network hamster, farted into the slot. I waited a day so you did not answer. nothing to say, I understand. gee gee
    2. mongoose
      -4
      10 October 2012 09: 39
      namely, he, like Dzhugashvilli, came to power with the Jews (Bolsheviks and now liberals), he, like Stalin, sent Jews from the "seven-bankerschina" to the camps and abroad
    3. maxon109
      0
      10 October 2012 09: 48
      Well, let. the main thing is not to spit Russia
  8. +2
    10 October 2012 10: 11
    The author draws interesting analogies: he puts Lenin-Khrushchev-Yeltsin in one line, the second is Alexander 3-Stalin, and Putin seems to be asking for it. This is not correct, to put it mildly, if only because Stalin himself considered himself to be the successor of Lenin's cause, which has been repeatedly If we are talking about "collecting and squandering" lands, then such analogies do not work at all. For 12 years, nothing has been collected yet, and it is not a fact that we will collect at all, We can do this if our society, our the political and economic system will be attractive to other peoples. But if practically the same thing is happening throughout the post-Soviet space, the meaning is where. Of course, somewhere is worse, somewhere is better, but the system is the same. And to equalize Stalin and Putin, as the author is trying to make hints, it is BSC, or simply does not matter what equates horseradish with a finger.
    1. mongoose
      -6
      10 October 2012 10: 51
      the successor of Lenin’s work? what is this? but to say one thing, and to shoot the faithful Leninists-Trotskyists (by chance coincidence also of the fellow tribesmen of the form and Bronstein) is another laughing
      1. +2
        10 October 2012 11: 10
        Quote: mongoose
        faithful Leninists-Trotskyists

        Putting Lenin and Trotsky on the same line is also not correctly respected meerkat, I apologize for the mongoose. History had to be studied in school.
        1. mongoose
          0
          10 October 2012 12: 02
          yah? they are absolutely equal figures in the history of the Jewish coup in October 1917
          1. +2
            10 October 2012 12: 29
            Quote: mongoose
            yah? they are absolutely equal figures in the history of the Jewish coup in October 1917

            Dima is harmful for you to sit at the monitor for a long time.
            1. mongoose
              0
              10 October 2012 12: 35
              you dear do not know the story of your own subject of worship
  9. +4
    10 October 2012 10: 58
    Speaking about the President, and drawing historical analogies, it is necessary to admit that "the retinue makes the king", therefore, despite patriotism and many personal positive qualities, the GDP moves in the rut of the financial and industrial group, whose nominee it is (it will not give up the positions of the indicated, as well as they will make every effort to leave him (read yourself) in power. For these purposes, all state institutions will be involved. Unfortunately, no one has abolished oligarchic-bureaucratic capitalism in Russia, and for him patriotism is secondary - if only it does not contradict his own interests. sad
    1. mongoose
      -3
      10 October 2012 12: 02
      this is the fate of all the "kings" of Dzhugashvilli including
  10. +1
    10 October 2012 11: 18
    Somehow the article is hard written ...
  11. -2
    10 October 2012 11: 34
    And we, in aspirations, will support him.
  12. serge
    +3
    10 October 2012 11: 46
    The author asks whether there was a national idea in Russia and whether it is now. It was, of course, there is, but the country's leadership so far pretends that it does not exist. The idea was Russian, with all the features inherent in Russian philosophy, politics, culture and economics. In the XX century, the Russian idea was transformed into a communist one with some differences, but on the whole retained the main core. In a nutshell, the core of the Russian idea is justice for all. The Russian idea was implemented by the Russian nation and all the peoples of the Russian Empire, the communist idea was implemented by the Soviet (Soviet = Russian + the same peoples). Without an idea, a modern state (let alone an empire, whether Russian or Soviet) cannot exist for a long time, the tops of the Russian Federation feel this and are trying to find this idea. It is easy to find an idea, it is lying underfoot, but Putiners are not trying to pick it up, at least for the time being they are afraid, and it is clear why. The people in Russia (as opposed to the leadership) are 85% Russian by blood, and spiritually, all 95% are Russian. The Russian people are now removed from power, both economic and political. But controlling the economy and politics, the temporary workers have no power over the national idea. Statements about the absence of a national idea are an attempt on the blue eye to replace this very idea. But you can only replace a sign, and not the idea itself. At the beginning of the XNUMXth century, ideological sabotage was committed - the Russian people were called the Soviet people. But the idea remained the same, even with Jewish revolutionaries at the head of the state. The signboard can be changed, but, as in the joke, where do you want to put your thoughts? The national and national idea comes from the Russians. The national ideas of other peoples within Russia, with all due respect to them, uniting ideas that suit everyone, cannot be offered. And the Russian nation is now divided within various state entities - the Russian Federation, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, and the countries of the Baltic. Therefore, the vanguard of the national (Russian, Russian) idea is now the reunion of the divided Russian people. This will be realized either with the current government, or without it, or in spite of it. The power can join the idea of ​​the people or not, but the historical pattern cannot be stopped. Any artificially invented national idea is not viable. Having reunited, the Russian people will surely raise to the shield the ideas of peace and justice, which all the peoples of the Earth so lack now.
  13. Gorchakov
    0
    10 October 2012 11: 49
    There is really more positive leader in the board, especially in foreign policy as opposed to his upbringing ... But things in domestic politics leave much to be desired .... The external enemy is strong, but not so much as to exert pressure with the help of military power , and that is why they, pretending to be friends or strategic partners, do everything to undermine Russia from the inside ... It’s enough to look at the impudent physiognomy of McFaul and the actions of people who hate Putin who communicate with him and the whole course of enemy thought to capture the Russian state becomes clear. .. It is necessary to stop the promotion of Western democracy (namely, Western) in the country, especially to prevent the development of liberal juvenile justice that destroys Russian families and our foundations, it is necessary to prevent the promotion of pederasty and lesbianism with feminism, to stop incitement of hostility on ethnic and religious grounds. Along with this, I think it is necessary to raise the status of special services, the army and the navy, being guided not only by raising salaries, but by a real legal base and real political will .... I think that Putin will succeed in this during my lifetime and will not make him change his mind about him as a leader, people who gave him a credit of trust for the restoration of great Russia ... I almost agree with the author of the article ... +
    1. -1
      10 October 2012 11: 58
      Well you said, it’s the leader! Let the dogs bark when the caravan goes on ... What remains for them is to bark and bark, and show cowards in the holy temple ...
  14. +2
    10 October 2012 12: 00
    << The people are waiting for the Munich speech on our domestic topics, and not about how to "tighten" the screws or loosen them, but about how to abruptly, with one blow of the tsarist word, put an end to the bureaucratic fuss, take all responsibility on themselves - and in the sphere of power to solve everything in its own way. >>
    Exactly! The people are tired of tolerance for all kinds of freaks and scum who have bred under the slogans of shit democracy and human rights, insolently arrogating to themselves most of the public property and behaving as irreplaceable HOST of life! It’s time to put an end to this and cleanse the country and, above all, the power structures from this WRONG !!! Without this, there can be no talk of any greatness of Russia!
  15. -1
    10 October 2012 12: 01
    I haven’t even read it and I won’t read it. And so everything is clear. Putin is the king (he probably thinks so), and he and his followers can do everything, while others can only work for their benefit. This is evident in recent events and facts. One abomination!
    1. Chemist
      -2
      10 October 2012 13: 08
      Totally wrong:
      The powers of the king and the secretary general are not comparable, in turn, the secretary general and the president as well. A comparison of the president and the king is at least stupid.
      Statistics on the implementation of presidential decrees: about 27% (as if suggestive of certain thoughts)
      http://www.efedorov.ru/node/1544
      Out of habit, many consider the presidency, the king of the almighty.
      This is a mistake.
      1. +2
        10 October 2012 13: 50
        Chemist,
        Quote: Chemist
        Statistics on the implementation of presidential decrees: about 27% (as if suggestive of certain thoughts)
        And is this your strong leader?
  16. dimanf
    +1
    10 October 2012 12: 32
    people are waiting for the end of Putin’s rule.
    1. Chemist
      -1
      10 October 2012 13: 09
      What kind of people? Swamp? Creative?
      1. dimanf
        -1
        10 October 2012 13: 33
        Quote: Chemist

        What kind of people? Swamp? Creative?


        RUSSIAN !!!
        1. Chemist
          +2
          10 October 2012 13: 36
          So, by your logic, 60% of the non-Russians who voted for this candidate?
          1. dimanf
            -2
            10 October 2012 13: 43
            Quote: Chemist

            So, by your logic, 60% of the non-Russians who voted for this candidate?


            In my opinion, fairy tales about 60% have long been discussed here.
            compare even the official results in the Caucasus and the center.
            and compare the amount of subsidies per person.
            1. Chemist
              -1
              10 October 2012 13: 50
              And where is Bolotnaya? not in Moscow by chance? There, the influence of the Prokhorovs, Wed and other shells is very high and the money is spinning there.
              1. dimanf
                +5
                10 October 2012 13: 57
                Quote: Chemist

                And where is Bolotnaya? not in Moscow by chance? There, the influence of the Prokhorovs, Wed and other shells is very high and the money is spinning there.



                and we have that people are divided only into 2 types?
                or for Putin or marsh.
                a lot of patriots who are disgusted and the regime that destroys the country and clowns with a swamp.
                1. -1
                  10 October 2012 21: 31
                  No, my friend, people are divided among us, but Muscovites and the soviet province.
          2. +1
            10 October 2012 16: 46
            Quote: Chemist
            So, by your logic, 60% of the non-Russians who voted for this candidate?

            Well, the turnout was 65%. Many did not come just because all the candidates were not satisfied. 35% of the voters are many.
    2. -3
      10 October 2012 21: 29
      And whose rule are you waiting for? Yavlinsky or Nemtsov? EMNIP, they already managed to visit the authorities.
  17. Patriot
    +4
    10 October 2012 13: 34
    COMRADE!

    THE THIEF AND ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE CANNOT BE NEW OR OLD!

    HE MAY BE UNPUNISHED AND AT FREEDOM. OR ALREADY PUNISHED AND IN PRISON OR AT THE HANGER!

    GIVE JUSTICE IN RUSSIA! ALL THE COUNTRY IS WAITING FOR HIM!


    Quote: Gorchakov
    Gorchakov Today, 11:49 ↓ the new 1 There is really more positive in the leader’s board, especially in foreign policy, in contrast to his feeding up ...


    Tell. And what are you talking about "positive" in foreign policy? Does our country have friendly countries? NO!
    Is Putin with his gang could save
    relations with the countries of the former USSR NO!
    Did NATO stop the promised and legalized
    joint agreements eastward NO!
    Is Russia Listening to the Opinion
    in the international arena? NO!
    Are citizens of the Russian Federation respectful
    worldwide? NO!
    Did someone support us in operation 080808 NO!

    As a citizen of the Russian Federation, I don’t see any real achievements of Putin’s gang in foreign policy !!!
    And, the events of 080808, as well as the annual problems with gas supplies through the neighboring Soviet republics vividly showed the "achievements" of Putin's comprador power
    1. +2
      10 October 2012 20: 12
      Patriot

      Harshly and emotionally, but the facts are stubborn things. Everything is just like that.

      From me "+".
    2. Gorchakov
      -2
      10 October 2012 20: 44
      [quote = Patriot]
      Tell. And what are you talking about "positive" in foreign policy? Does our country have friendly countries? NO!
      Is Putin with his gang could save
      relations with the countries of the former USSR NO!
      Did NATO stop the promised and legalized
      joint agreements eastward NO!
      Is Russia Listening to the Opinion
      in the international arena? NO!
      Are citizens of the Russian Federation respectful
      worldwide? NO!
      Did someone support us in operation 080808 NO!

      Russia has never had any friendly countries ... Everyone always needed something from Russia ... Russia should have only three friends: the special services, the army and the navy ... This has been the case at all times, especially under the communists ... After the traitorous communist Gorbachev destroyed the USSR and the Warsaw Pact, all pseudo-friends began to look for shelter from our potential enemies ... What kind of friendship are you writing about here? Further, what agreements with these countries could there be when Yeltsin and his gang had already sold the country and we had nothing to support these "friends? And what does Putin have to do with it? Learn history and find out that NATO's advancement to the East happened thanks to Gorbachev. It was verbally promised him that this would not happen ... It happened, but even before Putin ... Only after Medvedev's departure, they began to listen to Russia in the international arena, which was not the case in the era of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, or Medvedev. ..Operation 080808 was carried out during the reign of Medvedev, and if it were not for a timely kick in the ass to Medvedev, then we would have an enemy under our belly ... You are not a patriot ... You are a provocateur .... By the way, I in 96 he was for Zyuganov, until he realized that this person once again surrendered the government to Yeltsin and the democratic west ... Putin, the only one who did not chicken out and did not allow the collapse of Russia to the state of which you so dream ... You are a false patriot, and worse than that, a provocateur ...
      1. 0
        10 October 2012 23: 47
        Gorchakov.
        It seems to me that dialogue with this gentleman is not constructive. He lives with his truth, someone else's opinion is not interesting to him.
        He then knows how to make listen to the opinion of Russia in the international arena - he will probably remember the atomic bomb.
        In my opinion, such "patriots" are worse than Navalny and Udaltsov - at least they work for money, and these are just crazy.

        Remember, at least I understand the number of uncontested revolutionaries on the site.
  18. pepelacxp
    0
    10 October 2012 14: 11
    Patriot,

    Brad is bread; Bread is Brad.

    I hope you have achieved greater success in your personal life over the years than Comrade Putin in public.
  19. anoha68
    +4
    10 October 2012 14: 35
    Personally, my opinion is small and cowardly GDP for such a post. The people are afraid that the police are larger than the army, plus pay attention to the number of courts, prosecutor's offices, investigation committees and others, the number has increased many times in each city. The increase in salaries, first of all, not to doctors and teachers responsible for the physical and moral health of the nation — you know yourself. He surrounded himself not with professionals, just for reasons of personal devotion. Let him be stupid and steal, but betrayed like a dog. And at least one reform has been brought to its logical conclusion and brings positive results? on the fret on the new track, neither fret did not get better, neither the road — it’s already latana — shuffled. I closed the casinos — where are the gaming zones, how much money went underground? cranes, maybe at least they won't let you down.
  20. Patriot
    +3
    10 October 2012 14: 42
    Quote: pepelacxp
    pepelacxp Today, 14:11 ↓ new 0 Patriot,
    Brad is bread; Bread is Brad.
    I hope you have achieved greater success in your personal life over the years than Comrade Putin in public.


    If you have nothing to answer on the essence of the above points in order to whitewash the honor of this enemy, then do not talk nonsense. In your opinion nonsense!
    If on the way to these successes he had to destroy many competitors, dissenters and bring to the grave not a small part of the country's population, then to hell with such successes.
    If the success of the gdp is in weakening and destroying the country, then I personally don’t need such successes.


    Quote: anoha68
    anoha68
    Personally, my opinion is small and cowardly GDP for such a post. The people are afraid that the police are larger than the army, plus pay attention to the number of courts, prosecutor's offices, investigation committees and others, the number has increased many times in each city. The increase in salaries, first of all, not to doctors and teachers responsible for the physical and moral health of the nation — you know yourself. He surrounded himself not with professionals, just for reasons of personal devotion. Let him be stupid and steal, but betrayed like a dog. And at least one reform has been brought to its logical conclusion and brings positive results? on the fret on the new track, neither fret did not get better, neither the road — it’s already latana — shuffled. I closed the casinos — where are the gaming zones, how much money went underground? cranes, maybe at least they won't let you down.


    ALL TRUE SPEAK, COMRADE. THIS ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE HAS ALL TOPICS SICK! FOR 12 YEARS OF THE MANAGEMENT, THERE IS NOT THE SMALLEST ACHIEVEMENT AND BREAKTHROUGH!
    YES AND THOSE, SMALL AND NON-SIGNIFICANT ACTIONS ARE LOCATED ONLY ON SUPER REVENUES FROM SALE OF OIL AND GAS!
  21. Patriot
    -2
    10 October 2012 16: 51
    SO I WANT TO SAY: "Volodya! LEAVE. LEAVE THE COUNTRY IN REST."
  22. +2
    10 October 2012 18: 03
    you know, you look at Russia and ask yourself why one person is trying to do something, but the people are waiting (at the same time), really not doing anything, that tomorrow will be fine. This is called laziness. For 12 years, much has changed and now Russia has begun to indicate that and how to do it. My opinion is that everything is not enough for people, although there can be no limit. History shows that Russia can have only one owner, and if there are many, then Yeltsin serves as an example. Of course, I do not live there, but the opinion is parties that the gdp will raise Russia to the proper level ...
    ps the dissatisfied will always be, such is the essence of the dissatisfied
  23. +3
    10 October 2012 19: 55
    "Today, President Putin is markedly different from the Putin we knew before."
    Interesting ... Let's see what.
    I have in my hands the following indicators:
    - 97th place by per capita income
    - 62nd in terms of technological development
    - 127th in terms of population health

    - 3rd in the dissemination of child pornography
    - 2nd in number of murders per capita
    - 2nd place in the number of emigrants
    - 1st place in terms of growth of dollar billionaires

    We take 1st place in terms of national wealth. Both in absolute value and per capita ...

    Comrade P. has an answer to the question - Why is the income of the population so low, with such national wealth?
    Why comrade P. so humiliates his people?
    Why with comrade P. there is no price reduction, as with Comrade. Stalin?
    Why with comrade P. the country is unbearably long in many respects along with the most backward countries?
    And many more. Why ...
    Than comrade P. wants to please the people? Another promise again?
    Returning to the beginning ... Personally, I do not see the differences point-blank ...
    1. Region71
      0
      10 October 2012 20: 35
      Then my friends threw off a link to a very interesting video. Some meeting, as I understand it. It was when the figure put in place for Mr. Putin. No, I saw photographs of Dmitry Anatolyevich in which he looked like not quite mentally healthy, but I didn’t really believe in them, well, you never found a person at the wrong time. And I was struck by the reaction of the so-called Goebels ER, Mr. Surkov at the very end. Although Mr. Zyuganov, as if someone did not belong to him, said things that were sore. look, then minus the health. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZrGwYGyCHo
    2. -1
      10 October 2012 22: 02
      And where do such ratings come from?
  24. -2
    10 October 2012 21: 38
    The usual reaction of a person forced to pretend to be an attentive listener from an uninteresting opponent. Zyuganov, as I heard, offers to crush the Baltic states? It is directly interesting how he plans to do this. Would share plans, or something.
  25. -1
    10 October 2012 22: 18
    "The vicious idea of ​​the worldwide triumph of socialism was again on the agenda, and the USSR got involved in the cold world war, squandering resources to support the so-called progressive regimes, in fact, reanimating a fanatical idea of ​​Bolshevik messianism."

    Nonsense, it was a real geopolitical struggle.
    I do not agree with the author of the article. In particular, I note: Putin is just a Westerner, he inherits the line of Peter, the course towards Russia, as a great European country.
    So why is Khrushchev unequivocally credited with the category of destroyers? And so on, in general, not a very thought-out article.
  26. 0
    10 October 2012 23: 41
    They remembered, remembered ...
    Feel better, I hope?
    The main thing is to keep your hatred on the site, right?
    We would be presidents - we would ... we would ...
    Hang Taburetkin - this time,
    all money would be given to the people - these are two
    all Russians were made happy - these are three,
    they would have dispersed the stupid Ministry of Defense - these are four,
    And then they would hang the stools again ...
    So, are there really fantasies on political topics?
  27. wax
    0
    11 October 2012 01: 04
    To evaluate what Putin managed to do, you can look at the fact book of the last decade of the 20th century and compare it with the present.
    http://www.situation.ru/app/rs/books/whitebook/whitebook_content.htm
  28. -1
    11 October 2012 01: 15
    Putin - freedom of speech and thought, democracy and power all rolled into one.
    With such a leader, Russia can assert itself for decades and develop independently or together with other representatives of world hegemony.
    VV Putin forward !!!!
    1. +1
      11 October 2012 01: 55
      Are you serious???
      In his article “Democracy and the quality of the state” Putin, referring to the events of the 90s, writes about “oligarchic elites” who “shamelessly used the state” and “shared the public property”. The phrase about the division of the “public property” causes special emotion and could even make it cry if Putin willed and canceled the results of secured auctions by a patriotic decision. However, instead, he simply stated that "we have dealt with the oligarchy." Here are the results of the reprisal against her (in some places of the scheme there have been changes, but in general, it is still relevant):







      And the most interesting thing is that no one changes anything ...
  29. Patriot
    +1
    11 October 2012 10: 49
    COMRADE! I'm telling you. Puttn - the first thief and a liar of the country. And this tree of his gang of thieves is the clearest confirmation of this. And, as you yourself understand, all this thieves' pack actively withdraws money abroad. And, this, as you know, is billions of dollars.
    HERE IS YOU AND THE CAPITAL OUTflow WITH WHICH AS THE WIND MILLS ARE DEMONSTRATELY AND POPULISTS FIGHTING The main thief and patron of his oligarchic gang of the gdp


    Quote: Samsebenum
    Samsebenaum Yesterday, 19:55 ↓ 2
    "Today, President Putin is markedly different from the Putin we knew before."
    Interesting ... Let's see what.
    I have in my hands the following indicators:
    - 97th place by per capita income
    - 62nd in terms of technological development
    - 127th in terms of population health

    - 3rd in the dissemination of child pornography
    - 2nd in number of murders per capita
    - 2nd place in the number of emigrants
    - 1st place in terms of growth of dollar billionaires

    We take 1st place in terms of national wealth. Both in absolute value and per capita ...

    Comrade P. has an answer to the question - Why is the income of the population so low, with such national wealth?
    Why comrade P. so humiliates his people?
    Why with comrade P. there is no price reduction, as with Comrade. Stalin?
    Why with comrade P. the country is unbearably long in many respects along with the most backward countries?
    And many more. Why ...
    Than comrade P. wants to please the people? Another promise again?
    Returning to the beginning ... Personally, I do not see the differences point-blank ...



    THANKS TO YOU FOR THE BAD TRUTH OF LIFE! That's just the question. Why our stupefied citizens do not understand or do not want to understand?
    1. 0
      11 October 2012 20: 55
      Patriot

      The question is interesting ... What can I say?
      First, not everyone can think and analyze (a property of the mind).
      It’s much simpler and easier to pick up someone’s idea and not bother.

      Secondly, propaganda is a terrible force. This can be seen in the example of fascist Germany. The propaganda minister was, as you know, Paul Joseph Goebbels.

      Thirdly, cowardice. People are afraid of the punishment of the authorities. The instinct of self-preservation makes us refuse criticism of the powers that be, and the best option is to become their friend, support, share their views and beliefs.

      Fourth, fear of change. A change of ruler (if it is not a tandem) always generates a change of course. In our country there was everything. And people want confidence and stability.
      Remember, the declared GDP rate is stability. Although - this is complete nonsense and utopia. But it worked.

      Let me remind you, on the topic, the words of G. Ford - "The hardest thing in the world is to think ..."

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