Zelensky refused to clear the port of Odessa for the export of grain due to fears of amphibious assault

The West will not be able to export Ukrainian grain through the Black Sea, Ukraine rejected Russia's proposal to unblock ports on the Black Sea coast. It is reported by Bloomberg.

Ukraine refused to clear the port of Odessa for the export of grain by sea, fearing that after that the port would be "vulnerable to amphibious assault." Thus, Kyiv rejected Russia's proposal to provide sea corridors for cargo ships and escort them along the route together with Turkey. At the same time, Ankara believes that not everything is lost and Erdogan will be able to persuade Zelensky to accept this proposal.

In addition, Kyiv rejected Russia's proposals to export grain through the Russian-controlled ports of Mariupol and Berdyansk, as well as through Belarus to the Baltic ports. This option did not suit Zelensky either. At the same time, the Kiev regime continues to accuse Russia of blocking grain supplies. Kyiv is reportedly demanding that Russia withdraw the Russian fleet from ports and provide security guarantees for grain exports via the Black Sea.

Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia is not against the export of Ukrainian grain by sea and is even ready to provide sea corridors and escort cargo ships along the Black Sea together with Turkey, but on the condition that Ukraine clears mines from its ports on the Black Sea coast. However, in Kyiv, this option was immediately dismissed, saying that in this way Russia wants to weaken the defense of the Black Sea coast and land troops. In the presence of sea mines, landing from the sea is excluded.

The option of unblocking Odessa and other ports is also actively promoted by the Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who wants to act as not only a peacemaker, but also a savior of the world from the food crisis. The UN, represented by Guterres, also supports this option. So it is not all over yet, Brussels and Ankara intend to persuade Zelensky.

Comments

[gansales]

Well, that means Russia will get the grain ..!!! Or no one..
We need to feed the prisoners with something ..hehe

[Anachoret]

Excellent) once again the zeleboba demonstrates its inability to negotiate))

[poquello]

Quote: Anchorite

Excellent) once again the zeleboba demonstrates its inability to negotiate))

he took grain hostage with the owners, mined the entrance and demands a helicopter and money, ugh anti-ship missiles to Odessa

[Myths]

In Mariupol they burned the grain. So in Odessa you can not count. They didn't care about the people there.

[ABC-schutze]

And not only this...

The Kyiv clown, being essentially Uncle Sam's six, nevertheless, does not really believe in the possibility of a real repetition of the "allied Overlord".

By the way, one of these days, another "date" is just executed, from the day of this belated appearance of "Western allies" on the territory of continental Europe. (Their fuss in the Apennines, in this case, we will not take into account ...).

But "Overlord" performed by the Russian Armed Forces, he believes it is quite realizable. And he does it right...

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Not at all... Zeleboba habitually demonstrates his diligence and melancholy devotion! So the little mongrel falls on his back in front of the big dog and squeals heartfeltly, wagging his paws.
Zelya has long been an absolutely dependent figure, Ukraine has not yet had such a "president".

[bk316]

Ukraine has never had such a "president".

How many countries have had professional jesters as presidents?
Moreover, it’s a new formation – people who joke while high.

[Mavrikiy]

Zelensky refused to clear the port of Odessa for the export of grain due to fears of amphibious assault

Let the West protege piston inserts.

[poquello]

Quote from gansales

Well, that means Russia will get the grain ..!!! Or no one..
We need to feed the prisoners with something ..hehe

in Mariupol, dill grain was set on fire, it didn’t get

[cat Rusich]

Quote from gansales

Well, that means Russia will get the grain ..!!! Or no one..
We need to feed the prisoners with something ..hehe

It was already shown on TV, in Mariupol, the Nazis set fire to the grain in the granary during their flight - what burned down, what the pigeons ate, the rest simply deteriorated in the open.
When fleeing, the Nazis will destroy everything they can.

[poquello]

Quote: cat Rusich

the rest just spoiled in the open.

it did not deteriorate in the open air, it burned - they tried to extinguish it, they could not save it

[EMMM]

I would like to hope that it will go to the civilians of Ukraine occupied by dill. According to the footage of the chronicle, the way Nazi tanks iron winter crops will lead to the fact that there will be no harvest in Ukraine this year. In any case, Russia will have to feed the Pravoberezhnaya.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from gansales

Well, that means Russia will get the grain ..!!! Or no one..
We need to feed the prisoners with something ..hehe

The prisoners must work to restore what they destroyed, earning food, housing and medical services, as well as the fact that they are guarded and protected. And the grain will be useful to people living on the territory of the former Ukraine. We have our own. We can give it to others.

[Fisherman]

gansales, as I understand it, the grain is already ours and ours and the Turks have already agreed on transportation and sale through the Turks ... and Western traders are in flight!

[Zamira]

Quote from gansales

Well, that means Russia will get the grain ..!!! Or no one..
We need to feed the prisoners with something ..hehe

Agree.:)
But somehow I am tormented by vague doubts that this notorious grain is of interest to at least someone. It seems to me that the purpose of all the hype is not to "save the world from hunger", but to have Russia withdraw its fleet from Odessa.

[poquello]

Quote: Zamira

the purpose of all the hype is not to "save the world from hunger", but to have Russia withdraw its fleet from Odessa.

right, but there is a knight’s move - the Turks, by agreement with ours, approach Odessa and impudently clear the approach to the port and release the hostage ships

[Zamira]

Quote: poquello

the Turks, in agreement with ours, approach Odessa and impudently clear the approach to the port and release the hostage ships

And what will the Turks have from this? Will we buy tomatoes from them? :)

[poquello]

Quote: Zamira

Quote: poquello

the Turks, in agreement with ours, approach Odessa and impudently clear the approach to the port and release the hostage ships

And what will the Turks have from this? Will we buy tomatoes from them? :)

image, they are now trying to solve this problem, it should work

[Zamira]

Quote: poquello

image, they are now trying to solve this problem, it should work

Ah, i-image... Well, you know. Image is an expensive thing. Perhaps, that one "clearance" for such our service will not be enough. :) Perhaps, even if they dump them from Karabakh.
And yes, tomatoes (cry from the heart!) - let them sell their plastic tomatoes to someone else (yes, to the same Zelensky). Otherwise, no "image" for them :)

[german zaj]

Grain will be. Plus, there is inflation ... not very much, so every tomato is welcome.

[Andobor]

Quote: Zamira

And what will the Turks have from this?

Turkey is the largest grain hub, not only gas,
Grain is milled and flour is sold all over the East, and even cookies are sold.

[svoit]

Quote: Zamira

And what will the Turks have from this?

They hope for a 25% discount, but we still need to agree that they would pay rubles

[nobody75]

The Turks are already receiving contracted grain from the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions through the Crimea ... And to clear the Odessa port now means to create a sea route for the supply of weapons to the Nazis.
Sincerely

[Zamira]

Quote: nobody75

And to clear the port of Odessa now means to create a sea route for the supply of weapons to the Nazis.

That's it!!! That's where the dog is buried. :) And then: "image, image"... What "image"? This cunning Turk wants to get business from both sides at once. As they say: "Have your cake and eat it too." That's like him. I believe it.

[nobody75]

I calculated this tricky option a month ago. Turkey will resell our grain to Egypt, and Saudi Arabia will pay for it... Egypt, in turn, will become a distribution hub for all of Africa.
Sincerely

[Zamira]

Quote: nobody75

I calculated this tricky option a month ago.

I really hope that not only you did this, but our government also knows how to count. Because trusting this Turk is not self-respect. He will always find some thread "fig in his pocket." This is at best. And at worst: "knife in the back."

[nobody75]

You do not give me to feel the one and only!
Sincerely

[Zamira]

Quote: nobody75

You do not give me to feel the one and only!

))))) Yes, I would be glad if I knew that it is you who make decisions at the highest level. :)

[nobody75]

I myself wonder who makes decisions at the highest level ... This secret is still hidden from me ...
Sincerely

[Zamira]

Quote: nobody75

I myself wonder who makes decisions at the highest level ... This secret is still hidden from me ...

Well, you are not alone in this.:) Sorry, but here you are definitely one of many.:)

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Zamira

But something tormented me with vague doubts that this notorious grain is of interest to at least someone.

Of course, the main thing is to designate the Russian Federation as responsible for the Holodomor in the world and monotonously hammer it into the whole world, (despite the fact that grain is shipped by rail and across the Danube, and also that grain there is only 0,5% of the world food baskets), as well as to break through the possibility of delivering military cargo by sea and entering the NATO fleet into the Black Sea for alleged protection. Well, etc. etc.

[swnvaleria]

now the Western owners of the greenery want to speculate on wheat, but they don’t care that someone will die of hunger, the main thing is to raise the price at a higher price, just like with hydrocarbons, they don’t even care about their own ...

[Amper]

Legitimate war booty! What the hell is Vova trying to turn her into another gesture of weakness and slobbering.

[marat2016]

You have not noticed in these 20 years that he has such a character, this is what he is all about ....

[Amper]

I noticed, he's just a big boy, it's time to change. Uncles are bad, they need to be slapped on the sopatka.

[riwas]

Well, that means Russia will get the grain

I am afraid no. These bastards burn the grain in Mariupol during the retreat.

[tralflot1832]

And why clear mines in Odessa, there are two or three bulk carriers with grain. The rest are container carriers, tankers, and general cargo carriers.

[Alex777]

They fooled the fool into four fists!

The leader of the Bandera people is afraid. Scary.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: tralflot1832

.A BDK our tours roam here.

And somewhere under the water, a submarine is on guard, and in the distance, warships are rotating their radars and searching for targets with their guns. Fear Zelya! Fear, little rat. Run to the promised land. There you will eat matzah, dance at seven forty with Maxim Galkin.

[tralflot1832]

Will return to his main specialty - playing the piano.

[Negruz]

Fear Zele! Fear little rats .. Run to the promised land .. There you will eat matzo, seven forty dance with Maxim Galkin ..

Maksimka does not wear helmets ....

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Negruz

Maksimka does not wear helmets ....

Oh! I beg you... Schlemazl, not Schlemazl... They're both still assholes... They'll need to earn money... They'll work in pairs...

[dmi.pris1]

These are their problems with grain. What about us? They didn’t mine, they didn’t obstruct civilian courts.

[Simple]

The meaning of all these televisions with requests to unblock the ports of Odessa boiled down to the desire to remove the blockade by the ships of the Navy.
As soon as this happened, NATO would find something to do with communications.

[Sandor Clegane]

why should we worry about the export of wheat? if only indeed landing in the heart of Odessa?

[Andrey VOV]

No, landing is such a thing, especially there is no experience of really large landings, and there should be many factors to develop, first of all, it is guaranteed to destroy anti-ship missiles and make sure that reconnaissance UAVs do not hang over the Black Sea (today, at 16 km altitude, I wound circles for half a day) and much more

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Andrey VOV

(today at a height of 16 km I wound circles for half a day) and much more

they hang constantly, declare no use zone and shoot down

[Andrey VOV]

They hang in neutral zones...

[Sandor Clegane]

Anything can happen in a war, well, they shot down, so what? will we declare war?

[Starr]

Randomly launches on Russian technology in response.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote from Starr.

Randomly launches on Russian technology in response.

piss sooner

[Starr]

Yeah, how they pissed on supplying long-range missiles, highlighting targets, and so on.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote from Starr.

Yeah, how they pissed on supplying long-range missiles, highlighting targets, etc.

Who highlights the targets? for more details

[Starr]

Forgotten on whose tip the missiles that sank Moscow were flying?

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote from Starr.

Forgotten on whose tip the missiles that sank Moscow were flying?

remind who directed, what missiles, where they hit, who fired, what they fired from

[Starr]

Officially, Moscow itself sank) The most popular and realistic version is several Neptune missiles on a tip from an American aircraft, which was just hanging around nearby.

[Sandor Clegane]

so you don't know anything for sure, except for the fact that the cruiser sank? the rest is OBS

[marat2016]

Offend dear partners!? There is HSP and it does not provide for this.

[Egoza]

Brussels and Ankara intend to persuade Zelensky.

Nu-nu! Try to persuade the mongrel to act independently. Call Bidon right away, but there is a nuance - now Kyiv simply does not know where these damn mines are and who can catch them.

[Andrey VOV]

That's for sure, for sure there are no maps of minefields, I sketched it as God puts it on my soul, plus a bunch of junk, they fell off the minreps and look for them, fistula.

[tralflot1832]

The funniest thing is that there is probably no grain in the ports anymore. And what was loaded onto bulk carriers has rotted in three months. OOPS. Everyone got screwed. You can pretend to be a hero.

[Andrey VOV]

Well, it’s not a fact to burn it off .. If moisture didn’t get in and ventilation was on, then nothing, like the Russian steamer was not unloaded off the coast of Egypt for 3 months, as a result, all the rules

[tralflot1832]

Fuel would be needed for ventilation, for auxiliary equipment. And in Ukraine there is a problem with fuel. We'll see.

[ycuce234-san]

It is also possible to organize the supply of electricity from the shore by cable to the ship's electrical network. But you need to have a great desire for this.

[Aviator_]

Kyiv now simply does not know where these damn mines are and who can catch them.

Does the valiant yellow-blue fleet have anything to trawl them with? It looks like they don't. They can make a mess, but they can't clean up after themselves.

[BedMax]

Hungry Africans need to be let down ..
For landing.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Wow! The war is on, and the parties do not trust each other! What an embarrassment!

[cniza]

The West will not be able to export Ukrainian grain through the Black Sea

This grain should go to us as part of the compensation...

[Saboteur_Navy]

Apparently our BDKs are hanging there ... PKR can easily suppress the Air Force, only coordinates are needed, especially since I don’t think that there are many PKR, along the entire coast, the coast is long
They are too afraid of our Marines, apparently they have a complex of Volnovakha and Mariupol for a long time

[marat2016]

I think after "Moscow" no one will risk the BDK and cover frigates. This is the same as sending IL-76s with paratroopers to the air defense system in the hope that they are not there.

[Saboteur_Navy]

Combat operations are generally a risk, and the coordinates of the anti-aircraft missiles and air defense should be known to the command and not just hoped for, for this there is generally intelligence with good budgets and satellite intelligence, including and generally different ones

[marat2016]

Intelligence with budgets does not interfere in any way with being a clear threat to the air defense of Ukraine ..... Moreover, with the advent of NATO-supplied and boo "Made in the USSR", the picture will worsen. And with MANPADS (or rather, their quantity and quality), it’s generally difficult to do something.

[svoit]

Quote: marat2016

in the hope that they are not there.

It is necessary to send not with hope, but with confidence, and it was possible to land troops from the very beginning, there were no mines or anti-ship missiles, then the grouping could be increased, but for some reason they missed the moment.

[marat2016]

To do this, it would be necessary to radically change the distribution of forces towards the south.

[dimy44]

Okay, let's say it doesn't work from Odessa. But

Kyiv rejected Russian offers to export grain through the ports of Mariupol and Berdyansk, controlled by Russia, as well as through Belarus to the Baltic ports

Where is Zelensky's "democratism" and humanity, because Africa is starving! Hence the conclusion - Zelensky pursues only his own interests, and uses the grain as blackmail. He doesn't care about the hungry.

[samarin1969]

Why Russia should care about Cargill's property, etc. Western companies? It would be beneficial for Russia to seize/destroy these food stocks. Why discuss this topic with enemies?

[Alexander 3]

Grain, not our grain, is still in the territory occupied by the Nazis. Europe and the USA have sanctions on us, and we have to load the grain on their ships. I think this is too much. do. The people did not buy weapons for their destruction., in exchange for this grain.

[Leshak]

So it's not over yet, Brussels and Ankara intend to persuade Zelensky.

This is their problem, let them persuade.

[couch]

Africa, by the way, can survive without grain, eating only bananas, but what Europe thinks is unclear. Canada, I think, is not able to feed all the hungry, and they won't last until the New Year on their own grain! When this reaches the stupid heads, then "Zele" will have to live in this world until next Monday.

[Starr]

Hatred and the desire to harm Russia, coupled with propaganda, will overpower the instinct of self-preservation.

[german zaj]

Europe grain exporter. This year the harvest will be smaller, due to fertilizers, but they will not die of hunger. But the whole of North Africa may die. It's stressful with bananas

[Govorun]

Zelensky refused to clear the port of Odessa for the export of grain due to fears of amphibious assault

Vladimir Vladimirovich did everything so competently that Zelensky has to bury himself deeper and deeper... when even "his own" began to be shocked by his actions )))

[tralflot1832]

Vladimir Vladimirovich announced the volume, 6 - 7 million tons. Here is the main embarrassment with all the consequences. The Polish version, video.

[rocket757]

Zelensky refused to clear the port of Odessa for the export of grain due to fears of amphibious assault

. It is clear that he is trading, he wants NATO ships to line up with a fence around Odessa.
I wonder who gave him the idea?

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Zelensky refused to clear the port of Odessa for the export of grain due to fears of amphibious assault

Let the West protege piston inserts.

So he is without powder - not sane))

[sailor roman]

Currently, Ukraine does not have the forces and means to trawl and destroy sea barriers. In addition, the former ships of the Ukrainian Naval Forces carried out mine laying chaotically, unsystematically, with little or no navigational orientation and proper preparation of mines for laying. Only approximate production areas are known. In the Black Sea, only the Turkish Navy and the Black Sea Fleet can carry out effective mine reconnaissance and destruction of mines.

[fiv]

Zelya has hydrophobia, smells trouble from the sea.

[TermNachTer]

Zeneloch may want, may not want - these are his problems. The question is who will trawl? Banderland has no minesweepers.

[GNM]

Or maybe they stupidly do not know how to mine?

[Revolver]

Yes, it is clear what he is seeking, uncontrolled (for Russia) access to the Black Sea ports, and the introduction of NATO fleets "to ensure the safety of shipping". What will be delivered to him uncontrolled to these ports, these are his wet dreams, when he sniffs coke.

[Alexander Salenko]

Zeno is, I believe, paid for, and Zelya is simply being blackmailed by the West.

[Nord11]

Interestingly, is Ze trawling going to be carried out with the help of hydrobikes and air mattresses? He doesn’t have anything else afloat, except that the scows are full of mullet, but there you need to negotiate with Kostya ..

[iouris]

It's clear. There is no grain. communized.

[Carlos Hall]

This is a war, not a carnival, but a decisive war for Russia. If they want to export grain, they must return the confiscated money to Russia.

[Zaurbek]

Why are we so concerned about the export of Ukrainian grain? Their grain... They can’t take it out, let them sell it for rubles in the Russian Federation ... ..

[Negruz]

You can strengthen your position a little and troll the west ....

[Amper]

Weirdos (m) What trump cards do not hand over, they will still miss the game.

[Voronezh]

And for some reason, again, Russia is offering something, persuading ..... With such a warehouse, no one will see in Russia the winning side that can dictate conditions

[Normann]

he is stupid and stupid in Ukraine (

[Mouse]

Kyiv demands bullet holes in Zelensky's head.

[Valnik]

It is a pity that there are no underwater minesweepers.
While all these debates about grain are going on, the mines have been removed and one problem with the landing of troops has been solved.

[evgen1221]

7-12 million tons is within the framework of world grain consumption of 0.5%. What kind of world famine will they prevent??? But they can quite well lower prices in Europe and generally help Europe feed the rabies and itself.
A nefig Libya was to fall apart. Gaddafi unfolded a sickly project to irrigate Africa and unite it into the largest agricultural producer.

[riwas]

Zelensky refused to clear the port of Odessa for the export of grain due to fears of amphibious assault

For Zelensky, this is not his problem, especially since a mass export of grain by trains has been established, but no, the grain will be burned, as it was already in Mariupol.

[acetophenone]

Highly! Very well. The best, or rather, one of the best scenarios.

[iz odessy]

sometimes, in a certain situation, nationality or genetics, gives an unexpectedly negative effect. He outwitted himself, a little man who in 2019 "outwitted" and threw "..73% of those who voted for his film" servant of the people ".

[Okakakiev]

I can't see this face

[EvilCommunist]

I already feel the horns and hooves, and from the dead crest, the ears remained there, and not the grain.
Western politicians - they remind me of "Italians in Russia" from the film "The Incredible Adventures of Italians in Russia", who also thought how to steal and take away the treasure, but in the end:
We will treat the lame for free, and so on.

[imerjak]

Sick though