The Russian Aerospace Forces have replenished with a pair of new fifth-generation serial fighters Su-57

The Russian Aerospace Forces received two more new fifth-generation Su-57 fighter jets, the aircraft were seen at the Novosibirsk airport Tolmachevo during an intermediate landing.

As reported, the Novosibirsk spotters managed to capture the new fighters, the aircraft with tail numbers "53" red and "54" were in Tolmachevo on May 25 and 26, 2022, having made an intermediate landing when transferring to the place of deployment. According to available information, these fighters were built during this year at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yu.A. Gagarin (KnAAZ) and are the fifth and sixth aircraft of the series. In total, according to previously published data, aircraft manufacturers plan to hand over four new Su-57s to the military this year.

Thus, to date, the Russian Aerospace Forces has five serial Su-57 fighters, including those seen in Novosibirsk. Recall that the first aircraft of the series crashed on December 24, 2019 at the final stage of factory testing. After that, the Ministry of Defense received fighters with tail numbers "01", "02", 52" and now "53" and "54".

As Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said earlier, the Ministry of Defense will receive 2024 fifth-generation SU-22 fighter jets by the end of 57. In total, until 2027, the Russian Aerospace Forces will include 76 aircraft, which are manufactured by KnAAZ under a contract concluded in 2019.

According to sources in the military-industrial complex, the production of Su-57 fighters with the engine of the second stage will begin in 2025. Until then, all aircraft will be supplied with the first engine.

Comments

[gansales]

Expensive infections, but very necessary in the upcoming confrontation ..!!
These Su-57s primarily go as command centers in the airspace, controlling and aiming at targets everything else around UAVs and fighters, etc.
That's why there are so few of them.
Good news ! We will test it soon .. To the fullest!
PS Tanks "Armata" from the same series ..

[Zefr]

Considering that the cost is just a salary (because any money is someone's salary, the money is no longer needed for anything), it may turn out that the low cost is kept because, in general, salaries in the defense industry are several times lower than those of the Americans , and not because ours are so cunning. And only top managers will be cunning

[mitroha]

Quote: Zefr

Given that the cost is just a salary

There is a feeling that you need to pull up the theory

[Zefr]

Value is the social labor of commodity producers embodied in a commodity and embodied in it. (c) K. Marx
Well, tell me, what is the money received for the produced MIG used for?

[Hypertension]

Quote from gansales

These Su-57s primarily go as command centers in the airspace, controlling and pointing at targets everything else around UAVs and fighters

This requires A-50/100 (AWACS)

Quote from gansales

That's why there are so few of them.

Ah, that's why there are so few of them ... And the UAVs that the Su-57 should control, therefore, are "many".

[gansales]

Quote: Hyperion

This requires A-50/100 (AWACS)

I think these fighters themselves represent AWACS
Serious machines and in which case they themselves can take the fight ..

[Jacket in stock]

Quote from gansales

I think these fighters themselves represent AWACS

To do this, they will have to turn on the radar, which means that all the troubles with "invisibility" are immediately past.
All planes have radars. And about what you fantasized about, you also wrote about the Su30, and about the Mig31, and all this is empty chores.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote from gansales

These Su-57s primarily go as command centers in the airspace, controlling and aiming at targets everything else around UAVs and fighters, etc.

For this, AWACS aircraft are used.
And the Su57 are stealth fighters, they are exactly for something else.
Quietly crept up, quietly hit, cleared the clearing from air defense for the second wave ...

[gansales]

Quote: Jacket in stock

And the Su57 are stealth fighters, they are exactly for something else.
Quietly crept up, quietly hit, cleared the clearing from air defense for the second wave.

And for this too..
Multifunctional things ..And they fly beautifully !!!!

They have a lot in them...

[Jacket in stock]

Quote from gansales

And for this too.

only and exclusively. Everything else should and can be done better by completely different machines.

[stankow]

The beauty ! And don't rush. He does not care about breaking the flow. With such a thrust-to-weight ratio as bi, the flow is not really needed

[smart ass]

Command center on Su 57? Why?

[Borik]

Finally, the long-awaited addition to the VKS. Blue skies for you flyers.

[gansales]

Quote: Borik

Finally, the long-awaited addition to the VKS. Blue skies for you flyers.

Everything is just beginning Boris !!!

[Maximus196723]

When America sets everyone on Russia, such aircraft are very necessary, it would be possible to speed up the production process.

[Orkraider]

Greetings!
There is no need to accelerate, in a hurry, troubles often occur, let them work better within the established deadlines, keeping them.
This year it was promised to deliver 4, two were handed over, the remaining two, I hope, will have time to hand over by the end of the year.
And in 2023, 7 pieces are planned, they will survive - this will be a success, chic and joyful for us.

[Maks winter]

I am far from being an expert in this area, but my opinion is that, most likely, they will increase the pace as much as the power allows. so what is even 22 pcs??? You can't call them crumbs.

[sen]

The Russian Aerospace Forces have replenished with a pair of new fifth-generation serial fighters Su-57

According to the results of combat use in Ukraine, the Su-57 can be finalized.

[UAZ 452]

Were they used there?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: UAZ 452

Were they used there?

There is official confirmation of the use of the SU-57 in Ukraine. Look for .

[UAZ 452]

In a combat situation, they do not want to test them? While there is where, and I'm not talking about Syria.

[voyaka uh]

It will be interesting.
If the EPR of the Su-57 is the same as they declare, then they will be able to fly in the coverage area of ​​​​the Ukrainian S-300, where the Su-35 does not dare to fly.

[Fitter65]

Quote: voyaka uh

in the area of ​​operation of the Ukrainian S-300, where they do not dare to fly the Su-35.

And in Syria, in the zone of Russian F-35s ...

[neworange88]

. in the zone of Russian F-35s...

Excuse me, are the F-35s in service with Russia? You probably had a nightmare about it.

[NIKN]

Quote from: neworange88

Excuse me, are the F-35s in service with Russia? You probably had a nightmare about it.

Apparently not a clearly formulated idea, probably meant the F-35 flights in the zone of Russian air defense systems

[Fitter65]

wrote strangely - in Syria in the Russian air defense zone, where they do not dare to fly the F-35 ....

[Paladin]

Where the Su-35s fly, the F-35s do not dare to fly. Their tail falls apart when they start to run away. Buckets with bolts))

[spirit]

where they do not dare to fly the Su-35.

I doubt very much, the image risk is too big, especially after Moscow. God forbid they get knocked down, the generals will have a heart attack) I think Max is being driven around the very edge

[dauria]

If the EPR of the Su-57 is the same as they declare, then they will be able to fly in the coverage area of ​​​​the Ukrainian S-300,

It's not the EPR that keeps it on the ground, but the price. And the Su-57 will also keep the "loss of prestige". One "Moscow" was enough. It can be seen that the war is not of the size to take such risks. And any will fall - both with a small EPR and with a large one. A strange situation has developed - they are creating weapons (both ours and the United States), which it is a pity to spend in local wars. .

[ZeeD]

Yes, everything is simple: they created weapons for sale, no one planned to fight with them. So they are afraid to use it, so as not to undermine sales. Marketing.

[dementor873]

Image losses can easily bury sales to customers. Bayraktar is an example of this.

[Simon]

Yes! The best time to test the SU-57 in combat conditions.

[tralflot1832]

They flew hunting for Harpoons, to the Odessa region. The plane is inconspicuous!

[dauria]

The plane is inconspicuous!

So what ? Since MLRS missiles are also shot down by drones with their meager EPR, then the Su-57 will easily have a situation "in the wrong place at the wrong time." And if they start specifically hunting for him, then they will definitely fill up. Cunning will fill up. Like the Jews of the MiG-25P in their time. .

[Mechanic-44]

Yes, here all our "dear partners" will connect in full ...

[bukhach]

But it’s weak for our specialist to create a situation “at the wrong time and place” and slip a dummy, then the enemy of joy will have it! I read somewhere that in the Finnish at the SMK tank before the battle there was a hitch with the driver’s hatch came out, they added a replacement from what was under a hand turned up, and as a result, after the crew was blown up and evacuated, the dates as a model of armored steel dragged this cover off! It’s clear what conclusion they made about the new tanks and with whom they shared it, it turned out beautifully, if true.

[Grits]

Quote: tralflot1832

They flew hunting for Harpoons, to the Odessa region. The plane is inconspicuous!

And the Wuhan S-300s do not give rest ...

[Fitter65]

Planes from my native Komsomolsk-on-Amur, I've been here since 1988. I served now, I just live in my native Novosibirsk, and I come from here ....

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Fitter65

Planes from my native Komsomolsk-on-Amur, I've been here since 1988. I served now, I just live in my native Novosibirsk, and I come from here ....

Namesake! We are happy for you...
It remains only to sing a song: (I'll get off at a distant station)
"
Everything is mine here, and we, and we come from here
And cornflowers, and I, and poplars ... "

[Vioi]

Serial 53, 54 it pleases

[2 Level Advisor]

my friend .. not serial numbers, but onboard .. there is a big difference

[Saboteur_Navy]

Under Stalin, they would have been shot for such a pace ... I remember a Telegram to the director of the 18th aircraft factory in Kuibyshev, where 40 thousand IL-2s were made ... I hope many people know the quote-
By the way, this aircraft plant was already pissed off by the authorities of the then Samara region ... According to some kind of cunning scheme, the plant ended up in private hands

[ZeeD]

I think they can produce far from 4 pieces a year. The question is basically how much the customer is willing to pay. But even 1000 of them a year will obviously not be produced by anyone: it is expensive, difficult, laborious, and difficult to provide such a number of high-tech components to subcontractors.

[Saboteur_Navy]

As for the price and payment by the customer .... I'm tired of reading nonsense ... Let the customer ask Nabiulina for money, not yet give her the USA and Europe, even if the Moscow Region will help!
Yes, and with the theft of money, the thieves must wait, otherwise they will hand over everything, the money is so like a fool fanatics simply fall into the wrong pockets

[Piramidon]

Quote: ZeeD

I think they can produce far from 4 pieces a year. The question is basically how much the customer is willing to pay.

Payment is the tenth thing. The workshops of the plant are not made of rubber, there are not an infinite number of slipways and workers in them. And how much subcontractors can provide with components.

[ZeeD]

Did I just write about payment? Or did you stop reading?

[28st region]

How little this is.

[Blade2]

The most advanced combat vehicle to date.

If stealth characteristics are considered a determining factor, as in the case of LM aircraft, then the 57th is more likely the 6th generation or 5 ++


So, what do we have at this stage, and specifically what is the Su-57 and how is it fundamentally different from the F-22 and 35.

1) The world's first combat fighter aircraft with an optional drone mode and advanced AI on board.

2) Heavy MFI fighter capable of carrying hypersonic missiles.

3) The world's first fighter with actually working stealth technology (none of the 57x transfers to the SAR were tracked by the radars of either Israel, Turkey, or NATO as a whole.

4) The world's first fighter capable of flying drones as part of a single complex

5) flight characteristics exceeding even the flight characteristics of the Su-35 of the most maneuverable MFI in the world.

6) And this is only from the known

[know-it-two]

And now for the points ... Link, please, to point 3 The world's first fighter with really working stealth technology (none of the transfers of the 57x to the SAR was tracked by the radars of either Israel, or Turkey, or NATO as a whole.

[know-it-two]

.... already now (more precisely yesterday) it is vital to install the engine of the "second stage" ...

[Zaurbek]

Is this one of the 4 that were supposed to be handed over at the end of 2021? 2 passed and now these two?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Zaurbek

Is this one of the 4 that were supposed to be handed over at the end of 2021? 2 passed and now these two?

Quote from this article.

... are the fifth and sixth aircraft of the series

It turns out 4 passed + these two.

[Dikson]

Now, if they didn’t have tail numbers .. - launch them in a circle, with a landing in Tolmachevo .. Imagine, a heart attack in enemy observers - every 4 hours a pair of brand new Su-57s lands, refuels and takes off ..))) They will go astray from account..

[Zaurbek]

Don't worry....there are tons of ways to check....

[RUSSIAN_Ksyusha]

Great news. Even with the engines of the first stage, these aircraft are a serious thing. There is already experience. The main thing is that they continue to be delivered according to plans without disruption

[iouris]

Half a century ago, a factory could produce an airplane per day. So, in 1982, after a hot summer in Syria (about a hundred aircraft were lost), sixty MiG-23ml were sent to Syria in September alone. What is the current rate of production?

[Dikson]

Do not compare the Empire with a colony trying to become independent ..

[Zaurbek]

This is one of the reasons for the need for a light fighter. With one turbojet engine

[stankow]

Congratulations! Good luck, including combat!