General Shamanov: Do not interfere with the Russian military in Ukraine and rush them

Former commander of the Airborne Forces and deputy head of the Duma committee for the development of civil society, Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov, announced the approximate time required to complete the special operation in Ukraine. According to him, it will take five to ten years.

A high-ranking Russian officer made such a statement to journalists of the agency RIA News.

Demilitarization of Ukraine may take five to ten years

- considers the general.

According to Shamanov, at the same time, one should not interfere with the Russian military in Ukraine and rush them, demanding to speed up the offensive.

No accelerations in the foreseeable future need to be done

- the ex-commander of the Airborne Forces is sure.

The general believes that no one needs to interfere in the actions of the Armed Forces, they should be allowed to act independently, without external pressure.

But the military needs help in the territories liberated from nationalist formations. Administrative bodies should appear there, and civilian infrastructure should be restored in the settlements that have come under the control of the Russian army. The local population should have all the conditions for a normal life.

The general noted that the Russian leadership, by all indications, is striving for a complete solution to the Donbass problem. And he has every opportunity to do so.

Earlier, in an interview with Oksana Kravtsova, the author of the Power of One project, which was published on her YouTube channel, Shamanov called the main mistake of the Russian special operation. He considers the leadership’s calculations that Ukrainian residents will greet our army with flowers to be erroneous.

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[Sergio_7]

[The General believes that no one should interfere with the actions of the Armed Forces, they should be allowed to act independently, without external pressure.

Dvornikov knows what and how to do! Ukrainians will be happy.

[gansales]

Do not interfere with the Russian military in Ukraine and rush them

Gold words !!!!!! ..And God forbid any "Minsk agreements" or even worse Khasavyurt ...
Already without adjustments, etc., everything in our path is methodically destroyed .. the Nazis run, throwing their weapons and fortifying the areas in a panic .. Before the end of the year, everything will end if corrupt politicians do not intervene. God bless our soldiers in this holy war !!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ilya-spb

Gold words !!!!!! ..And God forbid any "Minsk agreements" or even worse Khasavyurt ..

The army is doing everything to win, the politicians are doing everything to defeat (especially the fifth column of the liberals).

[Alena Frolovna]

Don't stop the Russians from fighting!

Don't let the soldier fight
The one who walks in the warm corridors!
Enough to interrupt the offensive,
At the dead end of their negotiations!
Do not carry heresy in the programs,
Calling wise men to Ostankino!
Don't get in the way of completing tasks
If the order has been given to the troops!

So that your mother can understand you
On the grave of a Russian soldier!
Kohl came to liberate the people,
Don't you dare leave guys!
How many enemies did not come to us
Their result was always sad!
Russia has only one ally
Was, is, will be... Army and Navy!

It's too late to turn on the back
The Russian spirit in the hearts is already boiling!
Do not interfere with the Russians to fight,
Russia will not forgive you for this!
Don't let the soldier fight
The one who walks in the warm corridors!
Enough to interrupt the offensive,
In the dead end of empty negotiations!

Dmitry Lik

[Ilya-spb]

I think that by December of this year, the population of Ukraine will be ready to welcome the Russian Army with flowers!

No need to hurry! (With)

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Ilya-spb

I think that by December of this year, the population of Ukraine will be ready to welcome the Russian Army with flowers!

There was not, is not, and will not be a united Ukraine.
The part where with flowers (albeit belated) needs to be attached.
The rest is limited. Strict and tough.

[Revolver]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

The rest is limited. Strict and tough.

In no case should the current regime be left with a shred of "sovereign Ukrainian territory." If left, then in a couple of years they will rush from there "to liberate the ancestral Ukrainian territories", but already stuffed with the latest Western weapons to nowhere, and trained to work with them. So, even if it is decided not to annex the Left Bank, the regime there will have to be changed to one that will sign the relevant agreements with the Russian Federation and Belarus, including Russian troops on the territory of the reformatted Ukraine.
The only thing you can give away is Galicia. Let the Poles have this crap, and the crap, respectively, has the Poles. Ah, quite gay.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Ilya-spb

I think that by December of this year, the population of Ukraine will be ready to welcome the Russian Army with flowers!.....

Well, of course, when the available grain is stolen, spoiled or bred, when the next harvest is not enough, then the flowers will get

[antivirus]

Here it is as it turned out. These are the terms of TMV

[tralflot1832]

Yes, he said so!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: tralflot1832

Yes, he said so!

I ate Ryahu, "paratrooper" ... You need to keep in shape ... And also keep your brain in working order. And then they listen! Because the uniform ... and the stars on the shoulder straps.

[vik669]

It's better to be fat and healthy than thin and sick without a uniform...and stars on shoulder straps...and without brains!

[max702]

Vladimir Shamanov reported the approximate time required to complete special operations in Ukraine.
He rightly said that the special operation is not only the destruction of the military potential, it is also the destruction of Ukrainians in these territories, and he is still very optimistic .. At least 2-3 generations and no less, and even then they will keep a fig in their pocket for depriving them of European happiness ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: max702

At least 2-3 generations and no less, and even then they will keep a fig in their pocket for depriving them of European happiness ..

For 30 years, "European happiness" was hammered into their brains, and the Europeans did not even know that they should expect "Svidomo happiness." But every Ukrainian born after 1991 thinks that Europe is waiting for him as a brother.

[max702]

The problem of Ukrainian exclusivity has been organized by the Bolsheviks / Communists since 1917, which our commander-in-chief said (who is responsible for the current situation) when they sang in their ears for 70 years and confirmed it with DEED (Ukraine lived MUCH richer than the RSFSR) giving much more than taking here, anyone will feel chosen Unlike..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: max702

The issue of Ukrainian exceptionalism has been orchestrated by the Bolsheviks/Communists since 1917

The creator of the ideology of Ukrainian nationalism was Dmitry Dontsov, who in his work "Nationalism" most contributed to the definition of nationalist ideology. The doctrine of nationalism (Ukrainian) reveals irrational reminiscences of voluntaristic and vitalistic theories (F.Nietzsche, A.Bergson, G.Sorel, G.Lebon, O.Spengler, etc.). This doctrine was subsequently adopted by the OUN / UPA, and it still works, generations of Ukrainian nationalists were brought up on it.

[max702]

Yes, and these tried, so to speak, to lay the theoretical foundation of Ukrainianism, but the material basis of it was provided by the Bolsheviks / Communists in the policy of annexation and forcible Ukrainization of Russian lands ..

[Reptiloid]

Quote: tihonmarine

....every Ukrainian born after 1991 thinks that Europe is waiting for him as a brother.

Perhaps even 5-10 years before that. Let not from birth, but from school they thought about it, how they began to teach it.
Now, however, the sobering will come! They have already begun to be sent and restricted in various gay European countries. Soon there will be screams throughout the geyropa

and us something for shooo?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Reptiloid

Let not from birth, but from school they thought about it, how they began to teach it.

The school, immediately after the collapse, began to "Europeanize" the younger generation, and so on for 30 years.
My wife and I watched TV, they showed about Ukraine there, a courtyard with a playground, a 3-4 year old girl walks and sings - "Our father Bandera, mother Ukraine ..." my wife already choked on this. What will grow from it. And so all the children for 30 years were stuffed with Bandera and what awaits them will not wait for "Europe mother". And even that part of the huge mass of "gasters" that passed through Europe, where they were always considered even lower than the Negro, and then believed "in a bright European future."

[Reptiloid]

Quote: tihonmarine

..... even that part of the huge mass of "gasters" that passed through Europe, where they were always considered even lower than the Negro, and then believed "in a bright European future."

To admit this mistake and one's insignificance ---- is a difficult task, perhaps impossible, maybe they hope that now they are not lucky, then they will be lucky.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: max702

He rightly said that the special operation is not only the destruction of the military potential, it is also the destruction of Ukrainians in these territories, and he is still very optimistic .. At least 2-3 generations and no less, and even then they will keep a fig in their pocket for depriving them of European happiness ..

Moreover, the Canadian banderodiaspora will feed this pocket fig with might and main.

[Aviator_]

Moreover, the Canadian banderodiaspora will feed this pocket fig with might and main.

It would be nice to deport the most stubborn skauns with their families from Ukraine to Canada. So to speak, to perform the extraction. On green buses.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Aviator_

..... deport the most stubborn skauns with their families from Ukraine to Canada. So to speak, to perform the extraction. On green buses.

Good health, Sergey!

by sea along the ocean....

Canada their green dream

[Aviator_]

Hi Dmitry.
So they would sit in Canada, would not spread their odorous ideas beyond its borders.

[Reptiloid]

Khrushchev even allowed remigration from Canada. Now some Canadian relatives continue.

[Aviator_]

It's clear. How is Peter? I’m thinking whether to go there or not, there is a conference in Voenmekh from June 27th. There is an invitation, but now it is necessary to collect the papers.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Aviator_

.... How is Peter? I’m thinking whether to go there or not, there is a conference in Voenmekh since June 27 .....

of course it would be nice! And for what time? What bothers you? What are the doubts? Although, of course, it can be personal I love Peter in any weather.

[Aviator_]

Collect many signatures under the decision of the Export Control Commission. It's tedious. Maybe I'll pick it up. The trip to France was canceled after the well-known events, but the money approved for business trips remained in the office.

[Reptiloid]

Or maybe later in China will be or others , friendly countries

[Aviator_]

Never been to China. I was going to Shanghai, but the covid began. Again, these yellow faces squinted and held the conference on-line, and our reports were set for 4 o'clock in the morning Moscow time. I did not participate in this circus. And the French postponed the conference 2 times in order to hold it for real. But what came out happened. So now they will spend it without us, and I will go to St. Petersburg.

[Reptiloid]

In Peter ---- it's wonderful!
Someone is wickedly jealous puts cons.

[Aviator_]

It's here regularly. I'm used to it already.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Aviator_

It's here regularly. I'm used to it already.

Or is it dill or Poles that's who hooks from anger

[Aviator_]

Or is it dill or Poles

You still need to look for a Russian-speaking Pole, rather, the Sumerians are trying. And there are normal people in Ukraine, when there were flags with avatars (it was a long time ago), I was even surprised how many adequate people there were. Yes, and recently with two quite well communicated.

[Reptiloid]

And I know about some that are from Ukraine. They write well here.

[VSZMK]

A son:
- Dad, tell us, please, who are the Jews, and who are the Jews, who are the Russians, and who are the Muscovites, who are the Ukrainians, and who are the Ukrainians?
- Father, ceasing to cut slices of bacon, looked at his son and said:

- Jews, son, live in Israel. This heroic people has been fighting against Muslim aggressors for 60 years now, building their own state, has the best army and beautiful maidens.
And the Jews, son, live in Ukraine. They drink our vodka, sleep with our girls, buy our houses and try to build an independent Ukraine.

- Russians, son, live in Russia - a huge country. They extract oil and gas, sell timber, build and cherish their statehood.
And Muscovites, son, these are the bastards who live in Ukraine, devour, scoundrels, our fat, drink our vodka, seduce our maidens and try to build an independent Ukraine.

-Well, the Ukrainians, son, live in Ukraine, drink our vodka, eat our fat, sleep with our girls and try to build an independent Ukraine.
And the Ukrainians, son, live HERE near CANADA, and we eat Ukrainian fat, drink real, our own, native vodka, work tirelessly, and watch how these damn Ukrainians prevent the Jews and Muscovites from building an independent Ukraine ...

[Reptiloid]

Quote: VSZMK

.... who are the Jews, and who are the Jews, who are the Russians, and who are the Muscovites, who are the Ukrainians, and who are ......
-Well, the Ukrainians, son, live in Ukraine, drink our vodka, eat our fat, sleep with our girls and try to build an independent Ukraine.
And the Ukrainians, son, live HERE near CANADA, and we eat Ukrainian fat, drink real, our own, native vodka, work tirelessly, and watch how these damn Ukrainians prevent the Jews and Muscovites from building an independent Ukraine ...

that's the whole point! Double standards, doublethink, double-mindedness, lies. And at any moment they are ready to change their shoes, change the main reason
Not even doublethink or doublethink, many disguises, depending on the benefits

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Aviator_

It would be nice to deport the most stubborn skauns with their families from Ukraine to Canada.

In Canada, as in the USA, they are "waited" for them, and if they did, they took several thousand, those with large accounts in their banks (Canada has always done this).

[alexrray]

They were sent to eastern Siberia for life exile. They were very worried about us, supposedly the Chinese would seize the depopulated areas. The brains of Ukrainians, of course, are on one side, but our mentality is Russian. The harsh conditions of Siberia and the Far East will cure them.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: max702

At least 2-3 generations and no less, and even then they will keep a fig in their pocket for depriving them of European happiness ..

Why did Moses circle the Jews for 40 years in the desert (because there is nowhere to walk in a straight line)?
I waited for a generation to grow up that does not remember slavery.

The denazification of Ukraine will end when a generation grows up that will not know who Bandera is.
If something is not worked out in this regard, then you will have to remember the words of Muller

As soon as somewhere instead of the word "hello" they say "heil!" to someone's personal address, know that they are waiting for us there, from there we will begin our great revival.

[lis-ik]

Quote: tralflot1832

Yes, he said so!

There are big doubts that Russia has these 5-10 years, as they become politicians, they lose touch with reality.

[Robert Cooler]

Well, these predictions are closer to the truth. Because it gives the military, albeit a former one, familiar with the doctrine and realities.

[Volkof]

The cost of the operation is 1 lard $ per day! This is without taking into account irreparable losses! There is no need to rush, but not to the same extent ...

[Sarboz]

Quote: Volkof

The cost of the operation is 1 lard $ per day! This is without taking into account irreparable losses! There is no need to rush, but not to the same extent ...

Who gives you such accurate data? Does the iron overheat?

[Volkof]

Learn to use, at least, the Internet, to think for you is different, there is nothing to overheat !!!

[Sarboz]

I can give you a couple of free tips. Learn to at least sometimes not use the Internet. This is much more difficult, but the network may not be available on the battlefield. And second, learn to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[Santa Fe]

The cost of the operation is 1 lard $ per day!

Let's assume the number is correct.

There are 150 million people in Russia, roughly rounding off 50 million families. Even if the richest do not participate in this, the security forces too, there will be 40 million

It turns out only 25 dollars from each family, a few hundreds of rubles, non-lethal

Most likely, your figure of 1 lard per day is a lie, and you will have to pay much less. Everyone will chip in for such an important cause for a couple of acres from family budgets, in extreme cases, let them sell property

[iouris]

Very intelligently said. Got gloss. And in this case, the general is obliged to bark.

[dauria]

And in this case, the general is obliged to bark.

To bark at the king? So you can stay without a "pension". Found the Decembrists ....

[Piramidon]

Quote: iouris

Got gloss.

But this is what?

[iouris]

What do I have to do with it?

[Piramidon]

Quote: iouris

What do I have to do with it?

Well, who wrote it? What gloss?

[iouris]

I'm just capturing what is. Gloss is the impeccability of appearance, manners. Have I offended anyone?

[Blackmokona]

If the war lasts at least a couple of years, I think NATO will calmly start sending combined arms armies there, given the constantly rising degree of support, and then the Ukrainian army will already have superiority in forces and means. And how many people will die in 5 years of war? For me, this is an absolutely unacceptable option for the course of the SVO.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: BlackMokona

If the war lasts at least a couple of years, I think NATO will calmly start sending combined arms armies there, ... For me, this is an absolutely unacceptable variant of the course of the NWO.

In this case, it will not be about the NWO, but about the war.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Quote: BlackMokona

If the war lasts at least a couple of years, I think NATO will calmly start sending combined arms armies there, ... For me, this is an absolutely unacceptable variant of the course of the NWO.

In this case, it will not be about the NWO, but about the war.

And now, when hundreds of thousands of soldiers from each side of the front send hundreds of thousands of shells and thousands of tanks at each other, is this certainly not a war?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: BlackMokona

And now, when hundreds of thousands of soldiers from each side of the front send hundreds of thousands of shells and thousands of tanks at each other, is this certainly not a war?

Really - yes, war.
Formally, no, because no one has announced it, and on both sides there are interested parties who receive hidden goodies.
I would like them to be brought to the surface.
Personally.

I would like to focus on the question to whom the cash was transferred and where it went.

[Blade3]

What kind of war?

[Mikhail Sidorov]

And how many people will die in 5 years of war? For me, this is an absolutely unacceptable option for the course of the SVO.

I absolutely agree with you. The Best Sons of the Fatherland are dying. Whom will he fight in 10 years.

[DenVB]

Quote: Mikhail Sidorov

Whom will he fight in 10 years.

He is a general. He never thought about such things. For him, everything is simple. The rate of advance is 300 meters per day. The depth of defense is 1000 kilometers. We divide the second by the first, we get 3333 days. Or about 10 years. Simple and clear plan. Can anything go wrong?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Mikhail Sidorov

The Best Sons of the Fatherland are dying.

Or maybe that's the goal? At both sides.

PS I'm waiting for a cloud of minuses from those who do not understand what it is about.

[Nestorych]

The general was normal, but how he got into the authorities, how he was vaccinated, one blizzard brings an outright lie about the captured dill, who mocked our soldiers.
First, helmets, rations and armor were supplied to the Ukrainians, then riflemen, now tanks and planes, long-range MLRS are on the way, they will acquire nuclear weapons with shamanistic speed!

[Volkof]

Where have you seen normal generals? The USSR was destroyed by the generals! First, breaking up the army, depriving it of sound leadership. At the end of 1988, the first and last Meeting of Representatives of Officers' Assemblies took place in Moscow, which recorded the complete separation of the army leadership from the officer environment and the pre-collapsed state of the army ... Subsequent events confirmed everything.

[Nestorych]

I saw and know even good ones.))

[Volkof]

Seen? Did you know? good ? It's hard to even imagine, but there are three achievements at once ... You must be a storyteller? good there are no generals!

[Carlos Hall]

I read about this general in the Caucasian War. He is a big patriot. Este general "Shamanov" es una persona muy valiosa para Rusia. Everything he says is true. An infiltrated fifth column promoted the idea of ​​no resistance and is now manoeuvring, arranging negotiations

[Leshak]

Quote from Carlos Sala

I read about this general in the Caucasian War. He is a big patriot. Este general "Shamanov" es una persona muy valiosa para Rusia.

The general was good, but political chatter is not his. Gives out wishful thinking. One untruth about the capture of militants who mocked our prisoners is worth something.

[Aviator_]

The general was good, but political chatter is not his.

The same with Strelkov. A good military man, but no politician. However, in the mid-50s, this was demonstrated by G.K. Zhukov, what kind of politician turns out of a military leader.

[iouris]

Quite the contrary: "patriotic forces" are being introduced into the fifth column. But it's hard for them...

[Aleksandr21]

Quote from Carlos Sala

An infiltrated fifth column promoted the idea of ​​no resistance and is now manoeuvring, arranging negotiations

Rather, there is a systemic problem, and not a spoke in the wheels of the fifth column. After all, the top military-political leadership of Russia had to rely on some kind of intelligence data before starting the NWO. Where was intelligence when the "meeting with flowers" plan collapsed? we have so many scouts. structures, but none of them gave a real picture. Further, the planning of the first phase of the NWO ... I do not want to criticize the General Staff, but looking at what happened, at least questions arise ...) it seems that the wrong people are sitting in high-ranking places in the system who should be there. And you are the fifth column... there are enough problems even without it, if the system itself cannot admit its mistakes and correct them.

[iouris]

"The system itself" cannot. Otherwise it would not be a system.
It was only Baron Munchausen, being in the Russian service, who managed to pull himself and his horse out of the swamp, grabbing his pigtail.
The system has a leader. He begins to believe in his infallibility. Together with everyone. And here, time! It means that someone below is to blame: he overlooked, incorrectly informed, made a mistake. Well, nothing. Only those who do nothing do not make mistakes. In addition, the opponents think that they will now bring discord ... No. The system is monolithic. And the enemy is deeply mistaken.
Let's summarize. Let's point out the shortcomings. Assign responsible. We reward the unfortunate. Everything is going according to plan! But we won't tell you about them.

[Gvardeetz77]

At the end of March, he already made one statement about the capture of Ukrainian tormentors and about their wallowing at the feet of the special forces. They framed (or framed) it then notably, so I’m wary about 5-10 years, it’s a long time, the economy can grunt earlier, especially with such an attitude towards it in olligahic-rollback circles.

[Maximus196723]

For five ten years, he did not say that there would be phases, now there is a hot phase, then there will be subsequent ones. It's long to explain but it's true. Remember any conflict and you will understand that it will not be possible to immediately calm the zombied people. When the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions are defeated, the Americans will finance the partisans who will do sabotage. This is one of the phases of the fight against Nazism and like this until we get rid of the followers of Hitler.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Maximus196723

Remember any conflict and you will understand that it will not be possible to immediately calm the zombied people.

Here the situation is worse: these are people not zombified, but genetically wired.
They were "chased" and uprooted until ~1948.
In the "Khrushchev thaw" they had an amnesty, returned and began to raise their children and grandchildren in the spirit of their fathers and forefathers.
It was difficult to expect otherwise => the amnesty was a purposeful act.
Now we have consequences.
The conclusion is simple: there is no need to join the Westerners. Let the Poles and Europeans have nightmares.
Only Novorossia needs to be liberated and annexed.

[impostor]

there is no need to interfere in the actions of the Armed Forces, they must be allowed to act independently, without external pressure

Well, yes, New York has practically been taken by the DPR, if you don’t interfere, then Washington is just around the corner

[bober1982]

If anyone has relatives or former colleagues in Ukraine, they understood well that no one would greet us with flowers, since the majority of the population there is half-mad.
For this reason, the assessment given by the honored general is not entirely clear, if it was understandable at the everyday level, without any intelligence information.

[sen]

General Shamanov: Do not interfere with the Russian military in Ukraine and rush them

Don't rush. But as the duration of the operation increases, NATO increases the supply of more and more powerful and modern weapons, manages to train Ukrainian crews in the use of these weapons, and third countries, Poland, begin to directly intervene in the conflict. Although the imposition of sanctions against Russia is beginning to hit the European Union and the United States, discontent is growing there. A global crisis may begin.

[parusnik]

The militarization of Ukraine could take five to ten years, the general believes.

If the economy holds up. But it will survive, due to all sorts of optimizations and price increases. But there will never be a progressive tax, the bourgeoisie will not shift the burden of the war onto their shoulders.

[spektr9]

Demilitarization of Ukraine may take five to ten years

Yes, before the USSR demilitarized the whole of Europe in 4 years, now Ukraine needs 10 years
Does he not fight that with such deliveries of NATO weapons, he himself will eventually be demilitarized in 10 years?

[Piramidon]

Quote: spektr9

Yes, before the USSR demilitarized the whole of Europe in 4 years, now Ukraine needs 10 years

However, as it turned out, Bandera in / in Ukraine was not completely destroyed.

[spektr9]

However, as it turned out, Bandera in / in Ukraine was not completely destroyed.

Well, they didn’t destroy it, while someone slept for 20 years and thought for 8 years what to do with the Donbass, they brought it, fed it and taught it ....
But of course, for "cheers" it's the grandfathers who are to blame in 45, they don't see their own jambs of "urashechki"

[Piramidon]

Quote: spektr9

Well, they didn’t destroy it, while someone slept for 20 years and thought for 8 years what to do with the Donbass, brought, fed and taught ....

They didn't bring them from anywhere. All the post-war years, the shortcomings lived among us in the USSR and raised their children in the spirit of Bandera and hatred for everything Russian. The same was true in the Baltic republics. And now it's all blossomed.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Piramidon

However, as it turned out, Bandera in / in Ukraine was not completely destroyed.

They were sent to the wrong place, to the northeast.
And it had to go down. At 2 meters.

[Saboteur_Navy]

It is possible to end this war ahead of schedule - to demolish the Polish Rzeszow, and that's all
The United States does not even flinch, because the US president first of all thinks about the people of the United States with its dense population, the Americans are more important to him than the Poles!

[man]

The president of the United States thinks first of all of the people of the United States
Who is the President of the United States thinking about??? If he can think at all

[DenVB]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

It is possible to end this war ahead of schedule - demolish the Polish Rzeszow

You don't need to take it down at all. But it's time to send a warning "Caliber". To understand that we are ready for an escalation of the conflict.

[Cartalon]

Does the country have the resources for 5-10 years of special operations?

[iouris]

We remember well that it was the Soviet marshals and generals who squandered the USSR. The role of the Life Guardsmen who staged the coup was played by the Airborne Forces, and specifically Grachev. They most likely do not understand anything in big politics, but they continue to climb the status ladder with all their might. All sorts of strange personalities with an "active life position" hang around them, who manage to manipulate really deserved people.
Honored marshals used to be kept in the "paradise company" (general inspectors of the USSR Ministry of Defense), but they did not make public statements.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

We remember well that it was the Soviet marshals and generals who squandered the USSR. The role of the Life Guardsmen who staged the coup was played by the Airborne Forces, and specifically Grachev

This fact is always surprising. "Not a single gun fired in defense of the USSR". You took the oath, comrade generals. Eeeh...

[man]

This fact is always surprising. "Not a single gun fired in defense of the USSR". You took the oath, comrade generals. Eeeh...
You forget what a smear campaign launched in the late 80s against the military liberals! I don’t want to repeat their fabrications. It’s no wonder that no one wanted to move without an order. And those who weren’t afraid to take responsibility were either in prison (Varennikov) or allegedly committed suicide (Akhromeev) ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: iouris

The role of the Life Guardsmen who staged the coup was played by the Airborne Forces

You are wrong. It was the special officers who walked and whispered: “Your shoulder straps are not dear to you?” ...
It is not clear who brought the tanks to Moscow and how to accept and regard the shooting of the parliament today?

[Mikhail Sidorov]

how to accept-consider the execution of parliament today?

Like a coup d'état.

[iouris]

This is different.
"The civil war was averted."
"The USSR collapsed peacefully. No one was hurt."
And now - is this a postponed civil war in the USSR?
And now it's different. They tell you it's DIFFERENT!

[iouris]

Everything about the "specialists" has long been clear. But shoulder straps still turned out to be more expensive. The doors of "social elevators" opened for them. Here they are up. Here they are looking down on us. And I want to go higher and higher...

[Soldatov V.]

I don't even know what to say. WWII for us from 41 to 45 years. Everything is changing so rapidly, and he is 5-10 years old.
Isn't he being spoon-fed? You can't joke like that with Russia. We have in storage 60 thousand tanks of all editions since 45. Ukraine is only 1000 km long and 500 wide. Precisely General Lebed said the head is the bone of the paratroopers.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

It's a pity there is no such galaxy of commanders now as in the second Chechen one. I remember them in the prime of their career Shamanov, Pulikovsky, Troshev, Kazantsev, Bulgakov. Here were the monsters.

[Yak28]

I remember when they showed footage of bullying our prisoners, Shamanov said that everyone who did it was caught and testified. Of course, I believed it, I think it’s nifig how our special forces worked quickly, but it turned out Shamanov said nonsense. After that, listening to him is not interesting and I have no desire to believe his words.

[Ross xnumx]

General Shamanov: Do not interfere with the Russian military in Ukraine and rush them

This is exactly what they say on the VO website. Negotiations in the person of people who do not enjoy the confidence of the Russian population evoke special feelings. (Medinsky is the first of them). Do not convince us that Mr. Kiriyenko can make a significant contribution to SO.

Shamanov called the main mistake of the Russian special operation. He considers the leadership’s calculations that Ukrainian residents will greet our army with flowers to be erroneous.

This and similar miscalculations worry Russians who have an idea about military service.

[wladomir]

Everyone who is not too lazy to interfere in the actions of the army, this is how Shamanov can be understood. It's funny to read such a statement. When the painted rooster Kirkorov laughed all over the country at the Airborne Forces, then the general had to intervene in the situation and put this bird in its place.

[Split]

He is already a politician, not a general.
The longer the war lasts, the more Ukrainians will receive weapons, the more we will spend on the war, both money and human resources, as well as technical ones.
It's in our best interest to finish everything as soon as possible.
When the American Lend-Lease will work to its fullest, then we simply will not have time to kill everything physically. We'll just be crushed.
We already have problems, since we are removing the BMP-1 from conservation.

[Ivanushka Ivanov]

According to him, it will take five to ten years.

))) Yes, what is there. From fifty.

In five years there will be no living people left. There is no need to hurry, but our fighters are already not sleeping. Definitely, there is no need to make very sharp movements, NATO has not yet thrown out all its trump cards. The choice of the General Staff - Hard pressure along the entire length and depth with sudden explosions in certain areas - the most optimal at this stage + thoughtful development of the reclaimed territories. This is what angers our partners.
So, five years is pretty cool. There will not be even two years there according to the principle of donkey, mova and padishah. In a couple of months we will see what they have left there, and what else the partners will roll out ...
Of all the "splendor", only long-range MLRS are missing. But what, isn’t the Tornado that the VFU has long-range? It's like we're dragging. So we'll see.
Well, aviation. Something tells me that they are afraid to supply it (NATO), so as not to lose face. And crap - how to drink to give. Most likely, there will be something outdated - like F16 with the ability to refer to the "old age" of the model.
The great and great hysteria of the whole NATO is not yet ruled out, in two or three months, when all this shobla itself will climb into the square. And then everything becomes unpredictable. The Englishwoman will eventually guess that America will be burned (Putin's mouthpiece Solovyov has already said this directly). What do they want to achieve? Without America, they are nobody. A rusty and useless tin can floating in the asshole of the world. Macron will personally concrete the tunnel under the lath, and Frau Merkel, wearing a square helmet, will still dig up the V-2 and raze London to the ground, fulfilling the will of his grandfather. And there will be no use for nasty American soil if they think by substituting big brother to return it under their control.

[Skipper]

Shamanov, in general, voiced the most sour forecast. He himself believes in what he said. In 5-10 years, the ukrovermacht can be taken without a war ...

[iouris]

Soros said in Davos that Shamanov is the commander in chief.
The commander said that the chipmunk is a bird, so no rodents!

[voyaka uh]

"Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov announced the approximate time required to complete the special operation in Ukraine. According to him, this will take from five to ten years" ///
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5 - 10 years... Special operation. Like World War II (6 years).

[iouris]

So this is World War III. Although I believe that the Fourth. The Russians just didn't understand.

[ivan2022]

It is clear that Shamanov is guided by the experience of Chechnya. But in Russia everything is decided by politicians. And they will sacrifice anything. The interests of the people, whose numbers have been declining for 30 years, the common sense of the same military. That tomorrow in the morning the Tsar with the boyars will be hammered in the head, from which foot they will get up, then we will do it.

For the sake of the next crazy ideas of "development of Russia" c. At one time, even the country was destroyed, even in February 1917, even in December 1991 ... nothing changes, there is nothing new under the Sun.

[Old Horseradish]

Medinsiky, Abramovich and also the oligarchy of Ukraine can decide everything differently. They have real power.

[iouris]

We don't know who. And we won't know. Really. Come back in three years and we'll talk.

[couch]

all wars end when the problems of the warring parties end (otherwise - a war until the industry is completely exhausted, etc.

[Bayun]

I completely agree! Good - not famously, walks quietly.

We need to take care of our fighters and the hostages of the terrorist state-U. It will take 10 years, so be it. The main thing is that in Ukraine there is not even a spirit left of Nazism-fascism and other cannibalistic abominations.

[Konnick]

General Shamanov: Do not interfere with the Russian military in Ukraine and rush them

Yesterday's shelling of Donetsk "confirmed" Shamanov's words. Three months of NVO, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine are shelling Donetsk more and more often.

[Kunica]

Another 5-10 years of stability and support for the president, and then interfere with anyone you want. The current ones will retire.