MQ-9 Reaper: "Reaper" in the sky of Ukraine

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MQ-9 Reaper: "Reaper" in the sky of Ukraine

We can say that it happened: the Ukrainian military begged for a batch of "Reapers" MQ-9 Reaper. This was announced with pomp, describing the prospects. Complete win, so tremble, Russians, "Reapers" are flying.

The Russian side, represented by another expert, General Popov, has already told how these Drones it will rain from heaven, and what no these "Reapers" are.



The truth, it seems to me, is somewhere in the middle.

Therefore, if you carefully study all the more or less calm materials on the MQ-9 Reaper, you can draw a very interesting conclusion: there is not one devil in the details, but a whole squad. And everything is not as simple as it seems.

That is why we will climb very calmly and from a height of about 20 thousand meters we will look at what the MQ-9 Reaper will really represent in the sky of Ukraine, and what it will be: good weapon or so-so.


The flight performance of the MQ-9 Reaper has been reviewed on our pages, but we will repeat it. It will not be worse.

We will consider the shock version, that is, the MQ-9A Reaper. Some "experts" do not bother digging in the sources, and therefore their "Reaper" with a load can rise to a height of up to 15 km. But in fact, this height is achievable exclusively for the Altair, an unarmed reconnaissance version of the MQ-9. The Reaper, especially with a full load of weapons, flies much lower. Up to 8 thousand meters, like Bayraktar, only faster.

Created "Reaper" based on the MQ-1 "Predator", however, worked on the "Predator" thoroughly.


Everything and everything has become more: a longer fuselage, a larger wing, a more powerful engine. Turboprop Honeywell TPE331-10 776 hp (the Predator had a 115 hp piston engine) increased both speed, altitude, and flight range.

The result was a design much larger than the Predator: 3,37 m longer, 6,9 m longer wingspan, take-off weight increased by 3 (!!) kg.

Given the power of the engine, 661 hp. allowed to increase the payload by 1400 kg. And this is without taking into account fuel, the stock of which amounted to 1800 kg. So "Altair" could fly up to 30 hours, "Reaper" with a full combat load - up to 14 hours.

The maximum speed of the "Reaper" is 480 km / h, cruising - 280-300 km / h.


This is not Bayraktar.

With weapons, too, everything is much more significant. The Predator could only carry two laser-guided missiles. The "Reaper" has six weapon hardpoints, from almost 700 kg on the internal nodes under the fuselage to 270 kg on the underwing and up to 90 kg on the external nodes.


Theoretically, it is calculated that 14 helicopter missiles of the Hellfire type, which have a very wide range of applications, can be hung on the "reaper". But a mixed set of four AGM-114 "Hellfire" and two GBU-227 or GBU-12 guided 38-kg bombs is better.

The Hellfire rocket is already a classic, it has been in service since 1985 and it has proven itself quite well.


Designed to destroy armored vehicles, boats, shelters, the missile, in principle, has one drawback: the small weight of the warhead. But even 8 kg of a tandem warhead is enough to become a serious problem for tank.

Given that there are two ways to use Hellfire in terms of targeting, autonomous and external, the use of these missiles can have an additional effect. If the missile is launched autonomously from a UAV, then it is required to illuminate the target with a laser throughout the flight, which is quite inconvenient. In the case of external target designation, the UAV only launches a missile, and guidance is carried out from the ground. This improves the survivability of a $30 million UAV.

Equally good results can be achieved with the GBU-12 "Paveway II" bombs. The bomb is laser-guided and designed to destroy fortified targets and other infrastructure.


True, for the AGM-114 "Hellfire" and GBU-12 "Paveway II" the requirements for weather conditions for effective use are valid. That is, the absence of rain, fog, low clouds, smoke, in general, everything that can make it difficult for the laser beam to pass.


But the GBU-38 JDAM adjustable bomb is a weapon that does not depend on the weather. The inertial satellite guidance system is responsible for targeting the bomb. But for this bomb, it is required to determine the coordinates of the target in advance.

The AN / AAS-52 optoelectronic system is responsible for recognizing and tracking targets, which includes visible and infrared television cameras with high-resolution telephoto lenses and a laser designator, which weapons systems are guided by.

The “Reaper” is oriented in space using the AN / APY-8 “Lynx II” radar with a synthetic aperture, designed for mapping the terrain and detecting moving and stationary targets in the absence of visual contact.


As passive protection systems, part of the Reapers was equipped with an AN / ALR-67 radar exposure warning system and ADM-160 MALD dummy traps.

The control equipment that controls the MQ-9A from the ground is compatible with the MQ-1B equipment. That is, personnel already trained for the Predator, with minimal retraining, can operate the Reaper.

Two people are engaged in this, the pilot and the operator of electronic systems. Almost like on an airplane.


Takeoff and landing is carried out by this “crew”, and the main flight time of the “Reaper” is controlled by an autopilot, which receives commands via a satellite communication channel from a control center located in the United States at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada.

The signal transmission speed reaches 1,5 seconds, but in this situation, the Reapers control center is outside the range of almost any enemy weapon. And the autonomy of the action of the "Reapers" away from home airfields is largely due to precisely such control methods.

And here we digress a little. Not that from the "Reaper", but take a closer look at the methods of control.


Here is the place for pilots-operators Block 50 GСS actually imitates the cockpit of a conventional aircraft, with the supply of all the necessary information to the pilot-operator. Thanks to a modern computer base, one person can control the Reaper. And the second crew member can devote all the time to managing weapons systems. In general, everything is like in a regular plane.

Naturally, the control station is equipped with the latest multi-channel communication system Multi-Level Secure / Integrated Communication System (MLS / ICS), which is maximally protected from external influences. The communication system makes it possible to transfer large amounts of information through closed channels both to the operational control center and share it with other subscribers.

Drone control from the United States, the ability to deliver Reapers by C-17A transport aircraft, and the equipment of service centers at almost any airfield make the MQ-9 Reaper a very serious weapon.

The technical services of the US Air Force are required to deploy a support complex, a primary control point and prepare the UAV itself for takeoff and operation within 8 hours. Quite a short time.

And here is the attention, the question: where in this system is there a place for Ukrainian "specialists"?

Let's be honest: just one MQ-9 UAV costs $30 million. And it also has a control station, a technical service complex, plus the Reaper is controlled from special American satellites.


Will a sane person give control of an apparatus that has access to the American satellite navigation system to anyone?

It's one thing to entrust a small disposable kamikaze drone like Switchblade 600, which weighs 23 kg and carries a Javelin warhead, and which costs about 100.


Or its younger brother, the "Switchblade" 300, which costs $6 and carries a grenade 000 kilometers away.

"Three hundredth" can generally be controlled by a schoolboy, but the "Reaper" is a more subtle thing. A small kamikaze drone can attack vehicles, including armored vehicles, artillery and MLRS, air defense systems, and so on. "Bayraktar" also showed its ability to influence various targets.

But if the tiny “Switchblade” 300 is almost impossible to detect and neutralize, then the “Bayraktars” for some reason regularly fall to the ground. It is not so important who is to blame, the crooked hands of UAV operators or the direct hands of air defense calculations, it is not so important.

And the "Reaper" ... A fallen drone of such a cost is palpable. And it would be nice to minimize the possibility of falling for at least one of the reasons.

Because Ukrainians will not be allowed to manage. Yes, and it makes sense to take them to the USA, to teach them ... It is much easier to bring your calculations, organize a communication channel to Nevada and calmly launch the Reapers even from near Lvov.


And what, a range of 1900 km will allow, starting in Ivano-Frankivsk, to fly even to the Crimea, even to Donetsk, even to the Crimean bridge. And a pair of such drones can cause damage by an order of magnitude more than the same Bayraktars, which cannot fly further than 150 km from the control point.

And of course, no Ukrainian military will even be around. Maximum - to protect the perimeter. "Reaper" is included in the system of American military space intelligence and it is doubtful that Ukrainians, who are not even members of NATO, will be allowed to control.

And what does it say in the end?

That the conflict in Ukraine is thus moving into a new phase. with outside interference. The Reapers that could be used against Russian forces in Ukraine would most likely be flown by US pilot-operators, trained and fully competent.

MQ-9s will be connected to the American orbital constellation of satellites, and based on the data they receive, they will be able to strike at previously reconnoitered targets and objects.


This is not a full-fledged participation in the war?

Of course, our “experts” have already told all over the air that large and clumsy “Reapers” will fall under the blows of Russian air defense systems more trenchantly than small “Bayraktars”.

Theoretically, "Thor" and "Buk" will easily detect and knock down the "Reaper" from the sky, this is indisputable and there is even nothing to prove here. It is a fact.

The question of the presence of "Tor" or "Buk" in a given area. Already today they are openly saying that air defense systems are not enough to close the entire sky over the eastern part of Ukraine.

But even those complexes that are available are not a fact that they will be able to have the proper impact on the "Reapers". After all, it is very easy to detect and localize any air defense system from satellites as soon as it begins to deploy. Accordingly, bypassing, or rather, flying around such a problem will not be difficult.

So the "Reaper" in the sky of Ukraine is a serious nuisance. Yes, Buks and Tors are excellent equipment against which an American drone has no chance, but if the Reapers are controlled by experienced American operators, and not hastily trained Ukrainian ones (as was the case with Bayraktars), then the result will be may be different.


Underestimating the enemy leads to unpleasant consequences. We already managed to see this in March 2022. Therefore, you should be prepared for the fact that you will have to face the American operators of the Reapers in the sky of Ukraine, which will automatically transfer the special operation to a slightly different phase.

But - it is quite possible, as well as the fact that the "Reaper" can show itself. Maybe not as effective as it was in countries where the American did not meet resistance, but nonetheless. If the US turns on all the possibilities, it will be a worthy adversary.
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  1. +27
    31 May 2022 04: 04
    "That the conflict in Ukraine is thus moving into a new phase. With external intervention. The 'Reapers' that can be used on Russian troops in Ukraine are likely to be flown by American pilot-operators, trained and fully competent."
    I completely agree. It is obvious that American specialists will manage these Reapers. And this is direct intervention in the conflict by the United States. They are not mercenaries, even if they try to call them that. Armament of this level is not transferred to ordinary PMCs. Satellites and Pentagon software are used for guidance ...
    1. +14
      31 May 2022 05: 53
      If the US turns on all the possibilities, it will be a worthy adversary.
      does this mean that you can "extinguish" the satellites? S-500 put into action? in fact, the war with the United States will be obtained.
      1. +7
        31 May 2022 10: 44
        Quote: Aerodrome
        does this mean that you can "extinguish" the satellites?

        I don't think. To destroy this pepelats, fighter aircraft will be involved, with the preliminary destruction of huroz from the side of air defense, both with anti-radar weapons and high-precision means. In any case, approaching objects that he can hit is fraught because they are all covered by air defense systems (he does not carry long-range weapons). But also as a reconnaissance, spotter and target designator, this is a very, very unpleasant weapon, and should be the No. 1 target. I think basing on the territory of Ukraine is also fraught. Apparently, it will be based in Poland, Romania, and controlled, yes, from the USA.
        1. +9
          31 May 2022 15: 47
          three hours of flight to the place of application, it will be calculated for sure and fighter aircraft (as you correctly wrote) will have enough time and height to pass and destroy ... and there will be a lot of roar from 30 million dollars when it falls. In addition, the Yankees brazenly voice that only they control such devices COMPLETELY, which means that you can shoot down ANY drones even in neutral waters after the first attempt to use it, this will greatly thin out the Yankee intelligence capabilities over this territory. In Syria, there was already such a fact, after which the Yankees took their drones to a non-risk distance and stopped controlling the fighting of the "blacks", because ours shot down not a simple Raptor or Reaper, but a whole prodigy worth under 170 million dollars, through which they conducted all command and control in Syria directly by terrorists (led by their staff officers, whose internationals were also buried by ours in mountain tunnels under the ancient palace). Moreover, ours shot him down precisely in neutral waters ... and immediately the front of the ISIS fell down! And the Yankees ... the Yankees wiped themselves off and allegedly registered the crash of their wunderwaffle in the mountains (if memory serves) Colorado, away from journalists' access, and even closed access to the "fall" area. They simply could not hide such a loss, because the RQ-4Bs are too expensive and there are very few of them (the price is 140-280 million dollars). Then the Yankees wiped themselves off ... and here you need to wipe them off.
        2. -1
          31 May 2022 20: 29
          Quote: NIKNN
          Fighter aircraft will be brought in to destroy this pepelats

          For some reason, the author of the article did not mention the explosive rocket with which this reaper is also armed
      2. +7
        31 May 2022 14: 17
        Quote: Aerodrome
        does this mean that you can "extinguish" the satellites?

        Only if a decision is made on a preventive strike against the United States.
        And to destroy these rather large and medium-altitude / high-altitude pepelats, conventional air defense systems are enough. And of course, not "Torah" and "Shell" will play the first violin here, because their range of destruction is 15 - 20 km. , to counter this, it will not be enough - the range of the Helfires exceeds 20 km. , which means that having target designation from the "Reaper" satellite will be able to hit these short-range air defense systems, from a distance inaccessible to them. But "Buki-M2 \ M3", S-300 and S-400 will be able to shoot them from the sky quite casually. The target is large, the flight altitude is 7000 - 8000 m +, it will allow them to be hit from a distance of up to 250 - 300 km.
        And as a disciplinary practice, I propose to test (for example) the "Dagger" with a flight over the territory of the islands before Great Britain - as a mirror reaction and warning.
        And of course the forces of fighter aircraft.
        1. +6
          31 May 2022 18: 34
          It is also possible to launch a dagger over Poland from the Baltic at an object in Western Ukraine ..
          1. +6
            31 May 2022 23: 56
            It is necessary to scare the real decision-making center. In questions in / on the first violin, it is England that plays. In addition, it is closer - within the reach of medium-range weapons.
            South Korea periodically nightmares Japan with "flip fire" with its missiles through the Japanese islands, so why don't we have such fun?
            And to scare Poland is only to get a stink and hysteria. No use. Yes, and the Kaliningrad esclave is small for overclocking the MiG-31K.
            1. 0
              5 June 2022 14: 18
              Maybe North Korea? For the southern hegemon is unlikely to allow.
              1. +1
                5 June 2022 15: 36
                Quote: Machiavelli
                Maybe North Korea?

                Well, of course she got it wrong. hi
            2. 0
              6 June 2022 10: 55
              Will accelerate over the Baltic
              1. 0
                6 June 2022 13: 26
                Maybe . But it is more reasonable to carry out the acceleration of the MiG-31K over its own or controlled territory, because for enemy air defense systems the aircraft is at a speed of 2500 km / h and at an altitude of 17 km. (launch height of the "Dagger"), is not a serious problem. And the range of the "Dagger" is already sufficient.
                But since the MiG-31K link was nevertheless transferred to Kaliningrad ... these will apparently be dispersed precisely over the Baltic.
    2. 0
      31 May 2022 06: 09
      "not transferred to ordinary PMCs" in this case, the United States can make an exception.
      Or another option, more real: they create a "pocket" PMC and go
      1. +4
        31 May 2022 06: 15
        Roman, where is our electronic warfare equipment in this scheme?
        1. +25
          31 May 2022 07: 17
          That the conflict in Ukraine is thus moving into a new phase. with outside interference.

          1. That is, the supply of hundreds of pieces of heavy military equipment did not convince you of outside intervention?
          2. Mass deliveries of UAVs didn’t convince either?
          3. Volunteers from the USA again did not convince.
          4. Lend-Lease didn’t convince at all either?
          5. Financial assistance comparable to the military budget of the Russian Federation also did not convince anyone of anything?
          6. The work of the online intelligence system and the Starlink battlefield map did not convince you again?

          And then several Reapers immediately began to convince.

          ps. The main thing, dear author, you forgot to say "Reapers" is a very serious danger, primarily to the air defense system itself.
          1. 0
            31 May 2022 23: 03
            Quote: Civil
            That the conflict in Ukraine is thus moving into a new phase. with outside interference.

            1. That is, the supply of hundreds of pieces of heavy military equipment did not convince you of outside intervention?
            2. Mass deliveries of UAVs didn’t convince either?
            3. Volunteers from the USA again did not convince.
            4. Lend-Lease didn’t convince at all either?
            5. Financial assistance comparable to the military budget of the Russian Federation also did not convince anyone of anything?
            6. The work of the online intelligence system and the Starlink battlefield map did not convince you again?

            And then several Reapers immediately began to convince.

            ps. The main thing, dear author, you forgot to say "Reapers" is a very serious danger, primarily to the air defense system itself.

            All that you have listed is not direct participation in the war. No matter how embarrassing it may seem to you
            1. 0
              5 August 2022 09: 01
              All this will be direct participation in the war when war is declared. And the help of any of the parties with weapons is an entry into the war.
        2. +9
          31 May 2022 12: 05
          Quote: Aerodrome
          Roman, where is our electronic warfare equipment in this scheme?


          Nowhere. For such an aircraft can be extinguished at an altitude of 15 km and a range of 50 km - no electronic warfare will be able to.
          EW will be able to cover their positions with a stain, and completely disrupt their own communications.
          And at such a range, only IA and air defense can extinguish such an UAV.
          1. +6
            31 May 2022 20: 53
            Quote: SovAr238A
            For such an aircraft can be extinguished at an altitude of 15 km and a range of 50 km - no electronic warfare will be able to.

            It can, and without much effort. The electronic warfare complex "Borisoglebsk-2" is specially designed to suppress satellite communications. Therefore, the reaper can become simply uncontrollable. There are also wonderful complexes "Silok-02" and "Krasukha-4" ...
            There was a lot of noise about the capabilities of the electronic warfare complex "Moscow", which generally presses everything for 300 km around.
            Whether or not they will be used is another matter, so as not to shine in front of the Amami with their capabilities. By the way, there has already been a conversation about this at the top, at the level of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
    3. +3
      31 May 2022 06: 46
      And what prevents the very same airfield near Lviv from being glazed? Toit would be easier to bring your crews, organize a communication channel to Nevada and calmly launch the Reapers even from near Lvov. And the issue of aviation was not considered at all, only air defense, and only BUK and TOR .. Reaper is a fat target for her and S-400 missiles are not a pity. We open the map and see that the use of the Reapers is possible from the side of Romania and Moldova from the side of Poland, everything is visible from Belarus, therefore, we will soon see the taking of control of the Nikolaev and Odessa regions with the deployment of air defense and airborne forces there, the fleet, as always, managed to show that it cannot defend itself not to mention the fulfillment of other tasks, therefore taking control of Odessa and Nikolaev is inevitable ..
    4. +9
      31 May 2022 10: 17
      Quote: Dron_sk
      . It is obvious that American specialists will manage these Reapers. And this is direct intervention in the conflict by the United States.

      First, the "reapers" controlled by US specialists, then the fighter pilots, so imperceptibly, will reach the hot phase of the world war, using nuclear weapons.
      1. +11
        31 May 2022 12: 56
        It is necessary to strike on the hands immediately, otherwise, with your inaction, indulgence of permissiveness.
    5. +7
      31 May 2022 11: 54
      Quote: Dron_sk
      "That the conflict in Ukraine is thus moving into a new phase. With external intervention. The 'Reapers' that can be used on Russian troops in Ukraine are likely to be flown by American pilot-operators, trained and fully competent."
      I completely agree. It is obvious that American specialists will manage these Reapers. And this is direct intervention in the conflict by the United States. They are not mercenaries, even if they try to call them that. Armament of this level is not transferred to ordinary PMCs. Satellites and Pentagon software are used for guidance ...

      And before throwing hats and hot phrases, did you try to double-check the words of the author? "Reapers" can be controlled not only from the USA, this shows the list of countries that bought it, and the "predator" also bought a lot. Accordingly, the supply of command equipment to Ukraine does not seem to be a problem, respectively, Ukrainians can also use them ... so, purely formally, the Americans do not participate in the war, in much the same way that China did not impose sanctions on us ...
      Again, regarding our great and mighty air defense: as Turkish drones and even Soviet helicopters showed, air defense is far from always able to block our own borders, respectively, and field units are in great danger ... stop writing already that Western supplies are not afraid of them, etc., etc. Almost everything that Ukraine receives from weapons carries a more than serious danger to our troops, and what does not pose a danger to us makes life much easier for that side ...
      1. +3
        1 June 2022 17: 05
        No, the reaper for export in piece quantities was delivered only to the British, French, Italians and Turks. Within the framework of NATO, they use Amer's satellite control channels. This is where the purely legal question arises: will the Americans take direct part in the war by providing Ukrainians with their control channels.
        1. +1
          2 June 2022 07: 13
          Quote: Jose
          No, the reaper for export in piece quantities was delivered only to the British, French, Italians and Turks. Within the framework of NATO, they use Amer's satellite control channels. This is where the purely legal question arises: will the Americans take direct part in the war by providing Ukrainians with their control channels.

          In addition to Wikipedia, there are other sources, and Wikipedia has not only an article in Russian ...
          So, if you punish yourself on the Internet, it turns out that the Netherlands and Spain also lit up the "reapers", including mobile control stations back in 2015, India's brother rented 2 UAVs with a mobile control station and American operators to track Chinese activity after another fight on sticks at the border ...
      2. -1
        5 June 2022 07: 27
        "Predator" also bought a lot

        So you tell us how they are controlled and from where.
        1. +2
          6 June 2022 07: 06
          Quote: lelik613
          "Predator" also bought a lot

          So you tell us how they are controlled and from where.

          Do sanctions prohibit you from using search engines? Okay…



          Please, mobile control center for the "predator" and "reaper". It can be placed anywhere, in addition, there is also approximately transmitting equipment.
          1. 0
            6 June 2022 11: 04
            Desert camouflage. And the blue-blue sky ... It will be good to work in summer :) And there is winter in Russia ... :)
            1. 0
              6 June 2022 12: 43
              Quote: stankow
              Desert camouflage. And the blue-blue sky ... It will be good to work in summer :) And there is winter in Russia ... :)

              What's stopping you from repainting? Or even put, say, in underground parking, and disguise the receiving equipment? Taking into account the communication range, he can control the "benchmark" from Lviv, where it will be very difficult for our intelligence equipment to find him ... but this is not the question - the author of the article claims that control is possible only from the USA, as you can see, this is not so ...
  2. +6
    31 May 2022 04: 20
    Shota, I strongly doubt the inability to cover air defense precisely from slow-moving and UAVs flying at height. It’s completely from helicopters, there Firsov writes
    Another Su-25 with a "fork" is tired ... With full coverage of the frontal zone by the radar field, tonly suicides can fly here, especially since at extremely low altitudes you just don’t have time to pull the ejection handle. In principle, it is more difficult to detect a helicopter - in Libya, NATO had to attract a Greek (!) AWACS aircraft from the Swedish Eriai radar station against helicopters - it "took" a "doppler" from a rotating propeller. I would also like to see our Ka-31s in this matter
    And the editor of Aviation and Astronautics has not yet been caught lying. Flying in the direction of the Russian Federation or Crimea is even more fun. Nope, not the same problem even as dots
    1. +7
      31 May 2022 09: 44
      she "took" the "doppler" from the rotating propeller.

      Impressed.
      In the old analog ☝️radar systems, it was almost impossible to separate the ☝️☝️helicopter hovering in the air from stationary interference (for example, reflections from local objects or meteorological formations)
  3. +4
    31 May 2022 04: 33
    The correct answer to such a move is to burn out control satellites in orbit. Quite legal.
    But I'm afraid that ours will be afraid.
    1. 0
      31 May 2022 13: 05
      You need to immediately warn about this, you look and change your mind about sending.
      And the satellites had to be burned on the 24th.
    2. +2
      31 May 2022 21: 03
      Quote: malyvalv
      burning control satellites in orbit. Quite legal.

      NO ! It's naked CASUS BELLI!
      The attack of the Amer military satellite is an attack on the US Armed Forces (Air Force). And after that, who wants to wind bloody snot on his fist? Moreover, the Ams know for sure that we have such funds. Disabling a satellite constellation is the first sign of preparations for a preventive RN. Do you want to provoke TMV!?
      1. +1
        1 June 2022 08: 13
        The use of any equipment under the control of the Americans against the Russian Federation is "casus belly". And in this case, this is not a preparation for an attack, but a defense. This love fool in the Pentagon is clear.
        If they started to burn out like that just for no reason, then yes. It could be regarded as an attack.
      2. -1
        5 July 2022 02: 44
        ISZ, VS, AF, AMA, RYAU .. TMV, God forgive me, why such show-offs ..
        1. +2
          5 July 2022 17: 23
          Quote: igorka357
          ISZ, VS, AF, AMA, RYAU .. TMV, God forgive me, why such show-offs ..

          Well, you, damn it, give! (With)
          It is impossible to be such an uneducated person that, when visiting the MILITARY REVIEW website, you do not know the simplest generally accepted abbreviations! negative
          1. 0
            6 July 2022 03: 45
            Yes, I know them very well .. Just why is this ..)) RYAU, it seems easier to write a nuclear strike.
  4. +1
    31 May 2022 04: 33
    MQ-9 Reaper: "Reaper" in the sky of Ukraine

    First of all, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will use them for attacks on Russian territory, but it seems that the United States did not want to supply Ukraine with long-range weapons capable of reaching Russian territory in order to avoid conflict with Russia.
    1. +4
      31 May 2022 06: 17
      US specialists will use them, and I think they are already aware of the capabilities of our air defense over the past months. And on the territory of Russia, it is unlikely that there will be enough spirit.
      1. +15
        31 May 2022 08: 50
        Quote: ASAD
        And on the territory of Russia, it is unlikely that there will be enough spirit.

        Oil depots near Bryansk and Belgorod were hit and nothing happened. And as you know, impunity breeds permissiveness.
  5. +1
    31 May 2022 04: 54
    And here is the attention, the question: where in this system is there a place for Ukrainian "specialists"?
    Like where, and who will sweep the airfield? Who will bring the tails to these "Reapers"?
    In general, of course, this is not a joke ... If they appear in the sky of Ukraine, this will mean the US DIRECT ENTRY into the war, and how will our leadership respond to this?
    1. +4
      31 May 2022 05: 44
      That's for sure, there are no specialists, there are no airfields, and who in Europe wants to give up an airfield for strikes against Russia !?

      Roman has completely forgotten about aviation, as if we don’t have it as a class and can’t fight UAVs from the word at all.

      In general, this whole topic with the Rippers is a pure victory, no one even gave them the old MQ-1s.
    2. +1
      31 May 2022 05: 56
      They will hit the decision-making headquarters, so not long ago the Ministry of Defense said, if on our territory we will hit the centers, yeah, we see how a blast wave of green threw back to Kharkov
    3. +13
      31 May 2022 08: 03
      how will our leadership respond to this?
      Well, how?.. It will express deep concern, warn about the inadmissibility of escalation, transfer another lard to the account of "debt repayment", declare that it will steadily and strictly fulfill all the assumed obligations on deliveries. Oh, yes .. food prices will rise again, and yacht prices will decrease, after which Rosstat will announce a decrease in inflation.
    4. 0
      7 June 2022 11: 11
      Yes, in any way, he will express concern as always, and frown his eyebrows severely, that will be the end of it!!!!
  6. +9
    31 May 2022 04: 56
    One might think that until now Russia has dealt with "an unworthy adversary."

    It is curious that about a month ago, regarding my comment on this topic, disparaging opinions were expressed about the "Reaper" as an unworthy adversary. Yes ... with .... And now the rooster is ready to peck. And not "in the sky of Ukraine", but to the Urals. And it is not yet known how much will be used.

    This, of course, is not a "coming out", it may turn out to be for us what is commonly called the "moment of truth." Just in the part of Konashenkov, who graduated from the Zhytomyr Air Defense School and may be familiar with many "from the other side."
  7. +9
    31 May 2022 06: 07
    Unfortunately, our authorities do not want to admit that the NWO is a full-fledged proxy war between Russia and NATO. And for a war with the "golden billion", first of all, we need to transfer our own economy to "military rails". For starters, stop trading with the United States, stop payments on external borrowing (although, thanks to Nabiullina, we already “feeded” the States with our NWF), stop deliveries of metals (including uranium). Until the Americans understand that it is very expensive to fight with Russia, our soldiers will die from such "Reapers". Next is Europe. Yes, to collapse the Western economy by stopping energy trade. Yes, it will be very expensive for us - but soldiers' lives are priceless. Modern warfare is won not in the trenches, but in the quiet offices of the real "masters of life". In the war "to the last Ukrainian" Westerners are even ready to "shrink" a little in their well-being. But the key word here is "a little". But a good blow to the wallet, so that their standard of living collapsed already in reality - this could stop the capitalists.
    1. +5
      31 May 2022 08: 44
      Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
      But a good blow to the wallet, so that their standard of living collapsed already in reality - this could stop the capitalists.

      It's not an option. The decline in living standards will come from two directions. There is a saying: while the fat one dries up, the thin one dies. Well, it is clear who is fat and who is thin.
    2. 0
      6 June 2022 11: 10
      And then a century to restore trade? Why, if the war can be won without haste!
  8. +7
    31 May 2022 06: 11
    Quote: svp67
    how will our leadership respond to this?

    No way - the children of our "tops" live and want to live in the West (a typical example is the daughter of "Peskov's mustache"). No one in our nightmare imagines a direct conflict with NATO - as a variant of attacks on airfields in Poland or the disabling of the system of American spy satellites. So our soldiers, as usual, will have to pay for everything with their blood.
    1. +1
      31 May 2022 12: 30
      Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
      So our soldiers, as usual, will have to pay for everything with their blood.



      It makes sense to allow migration to the country with citizenship, only through long-term professional service as a specialist in the army and navy. Well, or be a super-necessary specialist.
      In the Russian Federation, they are now trying to copy the early American super-free approach to migration, when America really was a "beacon of the offended and oppressed" and steamboats with yesterday's peasantry sailed from the Old to the New World, which leads to a pendulum labor migration, which is impossible when moving from continent to continent (ticket the steamboat is expensive, travel for years or forever, and therefore, the American state has never faced such a problem, with the exception of Mexican workers). Perhaps citizenship through service would be more beneficial.
      1. 0
        5 June 2022 14: 31
        I would like to, otherwise they give citizenship to people like D'pardieu or Roy Jones. And the Czech who is fighting for the DPR is denied citizenship.
  9. -10
    31 May 2022 06: 27
    If even one fact of the use of such weapons in Ukraine is confirmed, then it is difficult for me to predict how tough the Kremlin’s response will be. I think it's extremely tough. Including all the economic measures that are diligently listed here in the comments.
    As long as it's not overwhelming...
    1. +15
      31 May 2022 10: 19
      Quote: Al_lexx
      If even one fact of the use of such weapons in Ukraine is confirmed, then it is difficult for me to predict how tough the Kremlin’s response will be. I think it's extremely tough.

      Here the cruiser of the 1st rank, the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet died: no answer. Neither hard nor soft. There were also BDKs.
      There is no answer that even civilians are dying from foreign 155 ay and rszo.
      And there will definitely be no reaction to the flights of the reaper.
      Peskov will not let you lie
  10. 0
    31 May 2022 06: 34
    Solve problems as they come!
    In advance, prepare for everything, it is not possible!
  11. +8
    31 May 2022 06: 35
    “... Theoretically, Thor and Buk will easily detect and knock down the Reaper from the sky ... ... The question of the presence of a Thor or Buk in a given area ... "

    Lamer's question: what prevents the use of a banal fighter in order to knock off a halabuda that will drag from Lviv to Donbass for an hour and a half at a speed of 480 km / h at an altitude of no more than eight kilometers? As it were, the air defense system consists not only of anti-aircraft missile systems ...
    1. +7
      31 May 2022 06: 53
      Completely in solidarity! And even to the heap, iron (just in case) the airfields based on these "Reapers". I strongly doubt that such equipment can take off from a destroyed airfield.
      1. +4
        31 May 2022 22: 16
        It's time to remember the old-fashioned wisdom: the best air defense is our tanks at the enemy's airfield.
    2. +1
      31 May 2022 08: 17
      And why does this very, as you say, "chalabuda" fly above the radio horizon, and what is the reflection coefficient of this very "chalabuda"?
      1. +3
        31 May 2022 17: 09
        Is it possible that a horseradish with a wingspan of 20 meters has a lower reflection coefficient than Bayraktar, which was stuffed with about a hundred pieces? And what is the point of flying below the radio horizon for a drone that is imprisoned for many hours of patrolling with the maximum possible view? And in any case, striking unmasks the Reaper with all the giblets, after which he needs to drink another one and a half to two hours to the landing site.
        In general, whatever one may say, a prodigy for thirty million dollars turns out to be a bit disposable, with a complete inability to solve at least operational tasks, not to mention strategic ones.
  12. +7
    31 May 2022 06: 56
    Last night, the air defense worked all night. Two targets were hit right above the Maisky settlement. There were others, but a little to the south. At the expense of the "Reaper", of course, they will look for weakly covered areas. But I see how our air defense is working now, it's not so simple The "Reaper" will be used. Here is another question, why we do not take into account the electronic warfare and the Air Force. We have already written about the use of the "Bully". This is how we will work out a set of countermeasures.
  13. +1
    31 May 2022 06: 57
    Good article . But if the Reapers participate in Ukraine, then this is direct US intervention in the NWO and this is another conversation and another topic.
  14. +3
    31 May 2022 07: 09
    The operators will most likely be based at Ramstein Air Base in Germany, as they have already been.
    1. +1
      31 May 2022 08: 19
      Reveal and destroy am otherwise it’s the way they move before the remote war.
  15. +4
    31 May 2022 07: 17
    The unit, of course, can deliver problems. But let's wait and see how many there will be, when and where. And yet - options for destruction in the air are discussed here, but there is also the possibility of ground destruction and not only a drone, but also control equipment. So, as they say, let's wait and see - the devil is not as terrible as he is painted.
    1. +3
      31 May 2022 08: 47
      Quote: Leshak
      But let's wait and see how many there will be,

      First 1-2, then 10-20, and then even more. Slow boiled frog effect
      1. +6
        31 May 2022 12: 10
        Quote from Aleks

        First 1-2, then 10-20, and then even more. Slow boiled frog effect
        ... just one MQ-9 UAV costs $30 million. And it also has a control station, a technical service complex, plus the Reaper is controlled from special American satellites.
        10-20 thirty millionth, modern, ukram devices? Who throw all Western weapons without any worries ... Somehow I doubt that the Americans are stupid to such an extent ...
  16. -1
    31 May 2022 07: 19
    The author, but not a damn thing, it’s not to extinguish baboons. In order to strike, you need to go down to an acceptable height, and Pantsyr already gets there. And the higher this drone, the further the detection and destruction zone of the S_300. Did they fly a lot in Syria? Bayraktars did more damage there. No one will transfer the stations anywhere, the Americans will manage from their own, so there is no need to retrain anyone.
  17. 0
    31 May 2022 07: 26
    Quote: Al_lexx
    If at least one fact ... If only it was not prohibitive ...

    We've all heard this many times before.
  18. -1
    31 May 2022 07: 26
    Roma, you have a convincing material.
    About the fact that Ukrainians will not be allowed. Why not assume that the crews of the "reapers" (up to a hundred) receive Ukrainian citizenship, but staff them with reservists. Or an option: they get a "vacation" at home, and where they will go .... Formalities are observed
  19. +2
    31 May 2022 07: 26
    Quote: Civil
    . The main thing, dear author, you forgot to say "Reapers" is a very serious danger, primarily to the air defense system itself

    Explain what is the main danger of air defense? just the opposite, air defense for reapers is not camille.
    1. +10
      31 May 2022 10: 26
      Depends on usage.

      To date, the most long-range reaper weapon is the English Helfire, Brimston. Its range is 40 km. This means a very high probability of destroying air defense up to Buk, inclusive, if it is reconnoitered in a timely manner. The S-300 and S-400 can drive off the Reaper in range, but in reality they are quite vulnerable to an attack from low altitudes.

      More importantly, the appearance of reapers can hypothetically bring the same effect that is now to some extent on the Russian side - the expansion of the demilitarization zone to the deep rear of the enemy. This will cause, among other things, the tearing of air defense resources for countless rear targets.
      1. +2
        31 May 2022 22: 20
        Stop talking nonsense. What 40 km))) This is from 15 meters at a speed of 000 max from a fighter. Halfair up to 1-10 km. Brimstone is no further than 15-20 km from an altitude below 25 meters and a speed of 1000 km. Reaper is a healthy and expensive toy that glows like a Christmas tree on the radar. The RCS is several times higher than Bayraktar. If he flies at an altitude above 300 meters, then he will be finished. And from such a height, he will be able to launch a rocket no further than 50 km.
        1. +2
          1 June 2022 09: 37
          Quote: Expert2017
          Stop talking nonsense. What 40 km)

          Select expression. Brimstone 2 has a range of 40 km from a helicopter and 60 km from an airplane. Reaper is between them in terms of characteristics. Another thing is that the integration of Brimstone with the reaper is still a test, it seems that they have not been put into service.

          What are you leading to? That the reaper can only work safely against Wasps, Shells and Tunguskas, and Buk is dangerous for him?
          1. 0
            2 June 2022 02: 09
            Is it written on the fence? Or did you see it yourself?))) And here is a helicopter or a plane. Given the maximum range when starting from a height of 6000 meters for Apache. At such a height, the UAV is a corpse. The entire area to Kyiv sees the S-300V. It is enough to gain a height of 200 meters and hello. And in this case, hanging some Brimstones on it, which for normal operation will require laser target designation, because this is not a desert, is complete nonsense. They can be launched from the ground and not risk a $30 million UAV. Range when launched from a height of 200 meters - 20-25 km. Twice as high as Hellfire.
            1. +2
              2 June 2022 06: 50
              Quote: Expert2017
              The entire area to Kyiv sees the S-300V. It is enough to gain a height of 200 meters and hello.

              Ah, there it is. Straight to Kyiv. Well, keep watching.

              But I agree on one thing. Reaper was conceived for many interesting tasks, but not for knocking out air defense for sure. Other means were calculated for this. The question is whether these other means will be applied.
              1. -1
                2 June 2022 12: 59
                1) It was designed for observation. Gives no risks for aviation crews when performing operations with suppressed air defense. And to save fuel and motor resources for more expensive equipment. Now, if the air defense is knocked out, then this is not a bad thing. 2) Yes, straight to Kyiv. In the second month of the operation, the S-300PMU2 and S-300V were delivered. And if Belarus allowed the use of the S-400 from its territory, Lviv would be covered. Unless, of course, we are talking about heights above a kilometer. Therefore, Ukrainians fly 20 meters from the ground. And it makes no sense to run Reaper low. The range of optics will be significantly limited, and it will not be able to launch Brimstone 2 beyond 25 km. Bayraktar looks much more interesting. You can also hang a pair of Brimstones on it. At the same time, it is several times cheaper than Reaper and has an EPR 10 times smaller. The most ideal option is Pacer with a load of 250 kg and a plate. He's just at work. Cheap and inconspicuous.
                1. +2
                  2 June 2022 14: 03
                  Quote: Expert2017
                  It was designed to watch

                  It was conceived to control territory in low-intensity conflicts. A tactical UAV unit can monitor a certain area 24/7. Then experiments began on the use of such machines in strike missions in a more or less difficult environment.

                  The use of a reaper with helpers against air defense, of course, is a collective farm. For productive work in this direction, it is required to integrate AGM-88.
                  Quote: Expert2017
                  In the second month of the operation, the S-300PMU2 and S-300V were delivered. And if Belarus allowed the use of the S-400 from its territory and Lviv would be covered

                  The height of a kilometer, dear friend, is visible from the ground from a distance of no more than 150 km from the 40V6MD tower. So even from three corners (New Yurkovichi) Kyiv is not visible. Another thing is that you underestimate the Old Man - you saw the S-400 in the Republic of Belarus (in particular, near Gomel). On the other hand, the operation of such products as the S-300/400 in the conflict zone is possible only as long as the American side does not object to this. If the position of the American side changes, they will have to move on without the S-300.
                  1. 0
                    6 June 2022 15: 15
                    Quote: Negro
                    On the other hand, the operation of such products as the S-300/400 in the conflict zone is possible only as long as the American side does not object to this. If the position of the American side changes, they will have to move on without the S-300.

                    how can they object?
                    political or military?
                    1. 0
                      6 June 2022 15: 32
                      Anyone.
                      Politically, part of the problem can be solved by having a heart-to-heart talk with Mr. Lukashenko. But there is a simpler solution - to bring to the attention of the Russian side that if any radar is operating closer than 200 km from the Ukrainian border, the United States will no longer be able to guarantee its safety.
                      1. 0
                        6 June 2022 23: 54
                        and now they guarantee the inviolability of our air defense?
                        some kind of nonsense, well, they will send pin-do-owls with their guarantees to hell and what next?
                      2. +2
                        7 June 2022 06: 52
                        Quote: iRoccka
                        and now they guarantee the inviolability of our air defense?

                        Oh sure. It is strange that you did not notice the tantrums about the "escalation" and the "inadmissibility of strikes on the territory of Russia." You can change this situation with one press release, if you wish.

                        You misunderstood the phrase "cannot guarantee security". The supply of tactical missile launchers has already been (as it were) resolved, the issuance of target designation to them is also not a problem.
                      3. 0
                        7 June 2022 18: 22
                        let's wait and see, each side has its own interests in this war, the United States found in it a replacement for Afghanistan, because they need to cut loot somewhere, pure business politics as an accompanying product, Russia wants to wring out its territories and desperately clean or demolish their heads, and grandmas they also probably saw badly ...
                        Ukrainians pursue what interest someone will ask?
                        no, they got the honorary role of the battlefield.
  20. +4
    31 May 2022 07: 28
    Quote: Timokha_2
    The author, yes not a fig will be,. No one will transfer the stations anywhere, the Americans will manage from their own, so there is no need to retrain anyone.

    To strike, you need to launch a rocket. From any height. And hit a target the size of a city.

    The main thing is that the West does not risk anything. If our Armed Forces do not strike, but only promise "on the centers" after real strikes on their own settlements, the West can sleep peacefully and test their systems on us and the Ukrainians.
  21. +3
    31 May 2022 07: 28
    If the missile is launched offline from a UAV, then it is required to illuminate the target with a laser throughout the flight, which is rather inconvenient

    If the target is illuminated with a laser, is it possible to place (I don’t know at what distance more effectively) a reflected radiation simulator next to this target? Helicopters have indicators of combat vehicle exposure, and the target (for example, our command post, launcher ...) can be equipped with such sensors, and when exposure occurs, turn on imitators that are more powerful, like heat traps on aircraft. Even moving ones. These are my theoretical fabrications, do not judge strictly ...
    1. +1
      31 May 2022 08: 49
      Did the political worker give me a minus? For what? I no longer criticize the CPSU, here it is a "taboo". A purely military-technical issue is being considered, are there really no interesting proposals to counter these Raptors? Or the topic is not interesting? Weird ...
      1. +1
        31 May 2022 10: 18
        There is opposition, but it is now guarding the Ural Range.
        To shoot down such a drone, you need an early warning radar (such as Avax) and a flight of fighters, with air-to-air missiles.
        The BUK air defense systems themselves cannot detect them, and the TOR also has some problems with this.
        That is, there is no way without a long-range reconnaissance aircraft, but it is busy.
        1. +2
          31 May 2022 10: 57
          Yes, if the Raptor is at an altitude of 20 km, then there is a problem. But I'm talking about the strike option, which is with missiles or guided bombs. Such a Raptor with a weapon flies much lower. The article talks about laser illumination, so this illumination cannot be deceived? If it can be detected, then turn on the false reflectors of laser irradiation, not one but the whole field. Are there really none?
          1. +2
            31 May 2022 12: 42
            To fool the laser illumination, you need to know exactly the wavelength of the laser and the illumination algorithm. After all, the beam does not have to be constant in properties: it can pulsate with a changing frequency and generally change its characteristics in order to be more resistant to interference.
  22. +1
    31 May 2022 07: 35
    The whole trouble is that control from the USA can be considered as a US attack on Russia, as a result, according to all the rules, Russia has the right to strike at the control center in the USA, and this is a nuclear war. Biden went off the rails?.
    1. +7
      31 May 2022 10: 01
      What are these "rules"? What "right" are you talking about, dear lawyer?
      1. 0
        31 May 2022 21: 17
        According to normal: a war begins when the military units of another state take part in the war, or the war is waged from the territory of another state. This is aggression and an incident of white. By the way, you guessed it, I'm a lawyer.
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        2. +1
          1 June 2022 00: 48
          Quote: Victor Sergeev
          According to normal: a war begins when the military units of another state take part in the war, or the war is waged from the territory of another state. This is aggression and an incident of white. .
          War in Korea 1950-53...
          Vietnam War 1965-74...
          the United States did not declare war on North Vietnam ... but they bombed Hanoi.
          1. 0
            6 June 2022 11: 20
            In Korea, there were forces under the auspices of the UN.
        3. 0
          1 June 2022 10: 00
          Comrade detective, or what?
          First, get it on your nose that Russia is not waging war. Russia is conducting a special military operation. Consequently, any actions of any player within the limits of the Russian Federation are not participation in the war - since there is no war. Let me remind you, by the way, that the question of the limits of the Russian Federation is not as simple as it seems to some.
          Secondly, after the transfer of a particular weapon to the Ukrainian side, its use becomes an internal affair of the Ukrainian side. The line of command from drone operators to the US Congress (and only Congress has the right to declare war) needs to be proven. Let me remind you that the U-2 pilots, for example, were civilians.
          Well, thirdly. In a time of sanity long lost, no involvement of military advisors in any conflict was tantamount to a declaration of war. The current tantrums of all sorts of officials there (so far) cause squeamish surprise in the public.
  23. -3
    31 May 2022 07: 55
    I don’t understand one thing, America’s deliveries began with all sorts of farts, but what we see now with the consent of Russia’s incomprehensible actions, they have already begun to supply heavy weapons and other equipment, bringing the conflict to the next stage, I think that we need not to appease the Americans by shaking the air with empty threats, and since we we are waging a conflict against America and the West, we must directly warn them if we start losing the battle in Ukraine due to the supply of modern weapons systems from Western countries and America, we will have to strike with atomic weapons at the places where these weapons will be supplied from.
    1. +1
      31 May 2022 09: 57
      Before a full-scale preventive strike, do you want to add money? Do away with Russia and Russians just because Ukraine was robbed? Oh well.
      1. +1
        31 May 2022 12: 50
        In Ukraine, the sons of Russia are dying with the active participation of the West, do you propose to continue to wipe yourself waiting for 1905 take two?
        1. -2
          31 May 2022 13: 09
          Excuse me, but what are the problems with 1905? Was there something comparable to a full-scale nuclear strike?
          1. 0
            31 May 2022 21: 48
            There was a lost Russian-Japanese with a shameful world for Russia and the subsequent February revolution.
            1. 0
              31 May 2022 22: 30
              )))
              Let me remind you that the February revolution happened 12 years later, during another unsuccessful war. By the way, the sovereign will be 2034 years old in 82.

              Is he that dear to you?
              1. 0
                31 May 2022 23: 57
                During the next unsuccessful war (World War I), Russia received the October Revolution, it is a shame, comrade, not to know the history of the Fatherland.
                1. +1
                  1 June 2022 09: 18
                  Quote: Igor K
                  During the next unsuccessful war (World War I), Russia received the October Revolution

                  Hand-face.jpg

                  The February Revolution happened in February 1917. Usually they talk about the victims of the Unified State Examination, but you won’t pass the Unified State Examination with such knowledge.
                  Quote: Igor K
                  The peace of the Fatherland is dear to me

                  Here, you see, how God will send.
                  1. +1
                    1 June 2022 09: 44
                    With the Unified State Examination, this is not for me (I have been living for a long time) and this, look through the story again at your leisure.
                    But we have deviated from the main thing: military losses in Russia lead to revolution, which I am trying to convey to you.
                    1. +1
                      1 June 2022 09: 49
                      There are no revolutions in countries where the average resident is a woman of pre-retirement age. At most, someone will be without a phone in Foros. Not to mention the fact that the thesis "In order to save Russia from revolution, we need to arrange a nuclear war" raises thoughts about urgent medical treatment.

                      And I still remember a little bit of history, thanks for the advice.
                      1. +1
                        1 June 2022 12: 27
                        Other countries are of little interest to me, I am interested in the history of my homeland.
              2. 0
                31 May 2022 23: 58
                The peace of the Fatherland is dear to me, and I don’t really want to take up arms, health after the coronavirus is not right.
          2. +3
            31 May 2022 23: 59
            Quote: Negro
            Was there something comparable to a full-scale nuclear strike?

            an attempt to collapse the country is somewhere on the same level ...
            1. -1
              1 June 2022 09: 29
              Quote: PSih2097
              an attempt to break up the country

              I don’t remember the attempts to collapse the country in 1905. But even with all the victims of WWI and Civil War (of which there were an order of magnitude more), we will only come out in terms of numbers to the Moscow agglomeration alone. Despite the fact that the population of the Republic of Ingushetia was larger and much younger than the population of the Russian Federation, that is, the relative demographic damage even from a limited strike on Moscow will be incomparably higher.

              To be honest, what strikes me the most is people who believe that rockets only fly in one direction. In practice, we will receive severe damage to the United States, which under no scenario will exceed the losses from the Second World War for the USSR, and the complete destruction of Russia and Russians.
              1. 0
                1 June 2022 17: 00
                Quote: Negro
                I don’t remember the attempts to collapse the country in 1905.

                oh well, what do you think it was in 1905 ??? What if not an attempt, a failed one - yes, but an attempt.
              2. 0
                7 July 2022 12: 18
                I do not agree with you, we are not the ones to just leave for another world at someone's whim. And all their pieces of iron are crap.
  24. +1
    31 May 2022 08: 03
    Underestimating the enemy leads to unpleasant consequences. ???
    Underestimation of the enemy leads to the death of the colors of the nation comrade writer.
  25. 0
    31 May 2022 08: 05
    When and what will be the military response to the US military participation in the war on the side of Ukraine?
    If the UAV is in the sky of Donbass, then it means that at least it is necessary to influence their control satellites.
    1. 0
      31 May 2022 09: 54
      )))
      It's not that easy to do. Firstly, why did you get the idea that a communications satellite generally passes over the territory of Russia?
      1. 0
        31 May 2022 12: 47
        The territory of Russia is large, there are many places through which this effect can be carried out.
        1. -1
          31 May 2022 13: 05
          The entire territory of Russia is located north of 41 degrees north latitude. - and accordingly to the north of any orbit with an inclination less than 41 degrees.
    2. 0
      7 July 2022 12: 24
      It all depends on the height of the corn. If it is at 10 km, it is visible at a radar range of 350 _ 400 km, simple line-of-sight physics.
  26. +1
    31 May 2022 08: 38
    with outside interference. "Reapers", which can be used against Russian troops in Ukraine,

    On Russian territory, too, they may well apply.
    1. -2
      31 May 2022 09: 44
      )))
      If you look at the combat radius of Reaper not from Lviv, but from Kharkov, you can find a lot of interesting things. If, of course, there is a solution for escalation.
      1. +3
        31 May 2022 22: 06
        Quote: Negro
        to the combat radius of Reaper not from Lviv, but from Kharkov,

        You don’t even make friends with tactics, not to mention OI or strategy ... Only such a “pro” as you can substitute an MQ-9 base airfield for an RZSO or a COALITION-class receiver artillery ... Then it’s better to immediately go to an airfield in the suburbs, like Kubinka... bully
        1. -2
          31 May 2022 22: 42
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          it’s better to immediately go to an airfield in the suburbs, like Kubinka ...

          )))
          Don't rush things. For a car with a radius of almost 2 thousand kilometers, not such a big difference.

          Another thing, of course, no weapon in itself will solve anything. Weapons must be used effectively.
      2. 0
        1 June 2022 00: 00
        It’s problematic to get to America today, but we can bring the geyrop to life with Perdogan in a two-handed STE.
        1. +4
          1 June 2022 09: 15
          Quote: Igor K
          we can bring geyropu to life with Perdogan in a two-man sto.
          For the fourth month of the liberation of the Lugansk region, you are somehow thinking too far.
          1. -1
            1 June 2022 09: 17
            Soft geyropa is not the outskirts where we are practically at war with ourselves, the Slavs.
            1. +2
              1 June 2022 09: 40
              Do you also have ideas of racial superiority there? Wonderful.
  27. -7
    31 May 2022 09: 08
    The Turks with their TV2 have already disgraced themselves, now the Americans want the same with their "reaper"? It is clear that UAVs of this class can be successful only if the opposing side does not have medium and long-range air defense systems, as well as aviation. Otherwise, they are just targets.
    1. +3
      31 May 2022 09: 42
      Turks disgraced? Please tell us more.
      1. +10
        31 May 2022 10: 17
        Quote: Negro
        Turks disgraced?

        The Turks were disgraced. They did not even have time to deliver as many Bayraktars to Ukraine as Konashenkov shot them down.
      2. -5
        31 May 2022 10: 17
        Is there news for you that about 90 pieces were destroyed there?
        https://ria.ru/20220525/bayraktar-1790522858.html
        1. +3
          31 May 2022 10: 48
          I thought that you would refer to the Russian Hartmann - Konashenkov, and there is another anonymous "informed source" there.
          1. +1
            31 May 2022 10: 53
            Maybe then you will tell what kind of unique performance characteristics TV2 has, that, according to your version, it is invulnerable to air defense? bully
            1. +4
              31 May 2022 11: 42
              Why should an economy-class drone designed to destroy "ISIS headquarters" (2 Khattabychs in dressing gowns, a donkey, a mortar) be invulnerable to air defense? Have you lied to yourself - exposed yourself?
              1. -2
                31 May 2022 12: 44
                You just lied. I just immediately said that an UAV of this class is not a player against an air defense lined up along all three lines.
                Well, only a couch strategist can call the $9 million MQ-30 Reaper an economy class.
                1. +4
                  31 May 2022 13: 11
                  You do not have enough RAM for three of your own messages?

                  The Turks with the bayraktar have disgraced you. You haven't met Reaper yet.
                  1. -1
                    31 May 2022 15: 39
                    What, you didn't disgrace yourself? Knock down these lawn mowers at once.
                    1. 0
                      31 May 2022 16: 02
                      You will be very surprised, but Bayraktar, in principle, cannot be "disgraced" in a conflict of this type. It was created for other special military operations. Its use in combined arms operations can be successful or unsuccessful, no more.
                      1. 0
                        31 May 2022 23: 07
                        And what am I talking about? It is for operations where the enemy has neither aviation nor air defense of medium and long range. And an attempt to replace UAVs with tactical aviation is doomed to failure, and this is exactly what the Armed Forces of Ukraine are trying to do.
                        Much more dangerous are ultra-small UAVs for reconnaissance and surveillance.
                      2. -1
                        1 June 2022 09: 10
                        You have some fantastic ideas about what is happening. Naturally, a drone with a load of less than 100 kg cannot "replace tactical aviation". Another thing is that this does not make it useless, with proper application.
                        A small UAV, in the Ukrainian case it is Fury, can correct artillery. To work with points and tornadoes, their range is not enough.
                        As for the strike capabilities of the bayraktar, from the sofa it seems that it would be very useful where there is no front line and you can work on communications. Sea of ​​Azov and the north of the Kharkov region.
                      3. -1
                        1 June 2022 20: 50
                        But it’s curious what kind of VUS you have (if you have one at all), since you accuse a combat pilot of a fantastic idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbwhat is happening. bully
                        But still, I remind you, the topic of discussion is the MQ-9, and it already has a combat load of 1400 kg, at the level of light attack aircraft.
                      4. 0
                        1 June 2022 23: 23
                        An amazing combination of ambition and stern wagging. You started with the Turks, who disgraced themselves. Now the Americans, who have in service three hundred A-10s, about 1000 attack helicopters and a couple of dozen gunships, have abandoned attack aircraft (or rather, close support aircraft).

                        By the way, all this economy, with the exception of the A-10 in part, is also unable to work in the air defense reach zone. Strictly speaking, air defense is created in order to interfere with the work of aviation. In places where UAVs should not fly in, the Su-25 should all the more stay away.
                      5. 0
                        3 June 2022 11: 05
                        You have an amazing ability to attribute your conjectures to opponents and answer what you were not asked about.
                        And as for ambition, I have earned the right to it. bully
                  2. 0
                    1 June 2022 00: 02
                    Not you, but we, if I understood you correctly.
                    1. -1
                      1 June 2022 09: 12
                      I didn’t understand your difficulties with pronouns, and I don’t want to understand.
                      1. 0
                        1 June 2022 09: 15
                        If you are a citizen of Russia, then you write on our behalf, that is, we, if not a citizen of Russia, then you write accordingly.
                      2. -2
                        1 June 2022 09: 44
                        I never undertook to write on behalf of the citizens of any state. I always write for myself.
  28. +4
    31 May 2022 09: 34
    The danger of a reaper is that it can aim at ground targets and artillery and missiles from afar. It’s very difficult to pick it up, it will hang without entering the affected area of ​​​​our air defense, that’s the whole fairy tale. it’s not easy. There’s nothing to protect the infrastructure of you, break logistics, communications, clean it up.
    1. -3
      31 May 2022 10: 20
      This is why he will be inaccessible to air defense? For complexes of medium and long range just right. Not to mention IA.
  29. +2
    31 May 2022 10: 00
    A wonderful article, everything is honest, clear and intelligible! Without breaking, losing and other templates.
  30. 0
    31 May 2022 10: 11
    If the US turns on all the possibilities, it will be a worthy adversary. Thanks Roman, good review.
  31. +4
    31 May 2022 10: 13
    Author

    This is a satellite dish and blocks of the communication system, navigation and part of the on-board computer
    It is impossible to map them (unless the starry sky)
    Here is Lynx AN/APY-8

  32. -3
    31 May 2022 10: 15
    But even 8 kg of a tandem warhead is enough to become a serious problem for a tank.

    8 kg of a tandem warhead is enough to pierce any modern tank right through the forehead - with armor, remote sensing and other things. And if you also take into account that it does not hit on the forehead, but from above ...
    1. +1
      31 May 2022 22: 15
      Quote: DenVB
      But even 8 kg of a tandem warhead is enough to become a serious problem for a tank.

      8 kg of a tandem warhead is enough to pierce any modern tank right through the forehead - with armor, remote sensing and other things. And if you also take into account that it does not hit on the forehead, but from above ...

      And what about KAZ "Shtora" already ...? Or "Arena" - also not ... belay
      1. +1
        31 May 2022 23: 06
        Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
        And what about KAZ "Shtora" already ...?

        I didn't say anything about KAZ. It is possible to talk about the penetration or non-penetration of the tank by the warhead only if the rocket flew to the tank.

        By the way, Shtora is not KAZ.
        1. +2
          31 May 2022 23: 22
          Quote: DenVB
          By the way, Shtora is not KAZ.

          I expressed myself inaccurately, sorry. Shtora - a complex of electronic-optical active protection - KOEP, for protection against laser-guided anti-tank guided missiles.
    2. +1
      1 June 2022 00: 03
      If from the top, then two tanks to take off, provided that one is standing on the other.
  33. +2
    31 May 2022 10: 16
    The system is working. If a single "Reaper" is used, it will knock out several tanks and be shot down, this will not bring any effect.
    And if, with the help of the Reaper, they break through the air defense line, destroying a couple of our air defense systems along the way, then they put several of their aircraft into action, they will launch a bombing strike, and then several brigades will go on the attack, it can turn out very bad.
    1. 0
      31 May 2022 10: 39
      Come on, tell me how with an aircraft with flight characteristics from the time of the beginning of WWII and unable to fly through the WWII to break through air defense? Very interesting to listen to. winked
      1. +1
        1 June 2022 08: 31
        as an aircraft with flight characteristics from the time of the beginning of WWII and unable to fly to WWII to break through air defense?

        Our generals think the same way, so the development of UAVs in our army is in the pen.
        Once again, the system works, and the "Reaper" is an integral part of this system. Performs the functions of reconnaissance, guidance and fire damage, monitoring the situation online. I identified the air defense system, aimed fire weapons, controlled the defeat, used my own means if possible, and launched aircraft into the attack along the laid corridor. Nothing new, but if we use aircraft for this and not always successfully and lose them and pilots, UAVs are used here.
        1. 0
          1 June 2022 20: 39
          What and how will he accomplish if he is just a large and rather slow-moving target? It does not reach you that he himself will be discovered and destroyed before he not only finds something there himself, but does not even approach the search area.
          Of course, sitting on the couch of generals is easy to criticize. But, unlike you, they know that air defense is also a system, and not separate air defense systems.
    2. +2
      31 May 2022 22: 25
      Quote: glory1974
      with the help of the "Reaper" they will break through the air defense line, destroying a couple of our air defense systems along the way, then they will put several of their aircraft into action, they will launch a bombing strike, and then several brigades will attack

      Well, yes, well, yes ... We don’t have a FVO radar station on the theater, fighter aircraft operating “on call”, reconnaissance and artillery are inactive and are waiting for “when the Natsik BRIGADES occupy the starting lines in the areas of concentration” and go (“combat step ") to attack our "broken" air defense and defense ....
      AHA. Everything will be that way. Dvornikov will calmly look at all this and wait - and when will the Nazis strike at him ... fellow
      1. -2
        1 June 2022 08: 25
        We do not have a FVO radar station on the theater of operations, fighter aircraft operating "on call", reconnaissance and artillery are inactive and are waiting for "when the Natsik BRIGADES occupy the starting lines in the areas of concentration" and go ("combat step") to attack our "broken through "Air defense and defense

        Dozens of helicopter flights to the encircled Mariupol at Azovstal to evacuate Azov residents, attack helicopters at an oil refinery in Belgorod, counterattacks in the Kharkov region, seize a bridgehead on the river, destroy a field airfield in the Kherson region, destroy our boats and air defense systems on Zmeiny Island, etc. d. etc.
        Where is everything you listed?
  34. -1
    31 May 2022 10: 28
    Theoretically, "Thor" and "Buk" will easily detect and knock down the "Reaper" from the sky, this is indisputable and there is even nothing to prove here.

    The author, Thor has a height reach of 10 km, the Reaper has a ceiling of 15 km. Yes, it will easily detect and easily knock it off. If you put Thor on top of Elbrus.
    1. +3
      31 May 2022 10: 43
      And you have no idea about the existence of other air defense and IA air defense systems? In addition, the ceiling and the working height of combat use are different things. hi
      1. -2
        31 May 2022 11: 16
        Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
        And you have no idea about the existence of other air defense and IA air defense systems?

        Do you know about the existence of geostationary satellites? Written about Thor.

        Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
        In addition, the ceiling and the working height of combat use are different things.

        On a purely reconnaissance mission, he can fly at ceiling height. And even with a combat load, if not loaded to the maximum, he can rise above the height of Thor's reach, fly over him, then descend to the height of the use of weapons. Some types of weapons can be used from any height. For example, GBU-38. And if you hang an AGM-88 on the Reaper, then it can generally surprise any air defense system.
        1. -2
          31 May 2022 12: 39

          Do you know about the existence of geostationary satellites?


          Does this somehow cancel the mediocre flight characteristics of the UAV?
          Written about Thor.

          So Thor will get it, for obvious reasons.
          For example, the ceiling of the Mi-24V is 5200 meters. However, MANPADS pose a threat.

          On a purely reconnaissance mission, he can fly at ceiling height. And even with a combat load, if not loaded to the maximum, he can rise above the height of Thor's reach, fly over him, then descend to the height of the use of weapons. Some types of weapons can be used from any height. For example, GBU-38. And if you hang an AGM-88 on the Reaper, then it can generally surprise any air defense system.


          Well, well, tell us how he will create surprises for "any air defense system." Do you have any idea what air defense is and how it is built?
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    2. -1
      31 May 2022 10: 57
      You read the article before commenting: with a full load above 8 km, Reaper will not rise.
      1. -1
        31 May 2022 11: 05
        Quote: Antonina Ignatenko
        You read the article before commenting: with a full load above 8 km, Reaper will not rise.

        And you, before commenting, think - is there an article in the criminal code that punishes flights with an incomplete load?
        1. -1
          31 May 2022 11: 16
          If you risk a unit for 30 million dollars, will you deliberately reduce its effectiveness by releasing it with incomplete ammunition? Modern high-tech warfare is the sphere of precise technical calculations: with difficulty, under possible shelling, launch this expensive unit with a couple of missiles and pray that the air defense systems will not get it, of course, it is possible in the event of some paramount goal, but even the United States itself is simply scattered by these Reapers they cannot allow.
          1. 0
            31 May 2022 11: 19
            Quote: Antonina Ignatenko
            If you risk a unit for 30 million dollars, will you deliberately reduce its effectiveness by releasing it with incomplete ammunition?

            I'll tell you more - even manned aircraft costing more than 30 million dollars rarely fly with a full load.
            1. 0
              31 May 2022 12: 50
              I'll tell you more - even manned aircraft costing more than 30 million dollars rarely fly with a full load.

              Do you know why? Because there are certain requirements for takeoff weight. In Afghanistan, we also reduced the load on the Mi-24 in the summer. But not because it is no longer necessary, but because the heat and excess. And ammunition is never superfluous.
          2. +2
            31 May 2022 12: 31
            Quote: Antonina Ignatenko
            If you risk a unit for 30 million dollars, will you deliberately reduce its effectiveness by releasing it with incomplete ammunition? Modern high-tech warfare is the sphere of precise technical calculations: with difficulty, under possible shelling, launch this expensive unit with a couple of missiles and pray that the air defense systems will not get it, of course, it is possible in the event of some paramount goal, but even the United States itself is simply scattered by these Reapers they cannot allow.


            In the tactics of modern wars, the maximum bomb load has not been used anywhere, in principle, for the last 50 years.
            Take 1-2 bombs, 1-2 missiles.
            For the task goes to the specific destruction of a specific target.
            And not for carpet bombing and not for free hunting.
            Many sorties of our Su-34s took place in Syria and are taking place in Ukraine with the suspension of a pair of 250 kg cast irons. This is only about 500 kg out of a possible 12 tons of armament suspension.
            And this is practiced everywhere and always.
            On planes worth up to $2 billion.
            Even B-2s flew on targets with an incomplete combat load. Although they could and refueled as many times as they saw fit.
            But it doesn't make any practical sense.
            1. -4
              31 May 2022 12: 53
              Provide the facts of many Su-34 sorties with 500 kg of ammunition, otherwise you are just yap.
              1. 0
                31 May 2022 13: 37
                Quote: vovochkarzhevsky
                Provide the facts of many Su-34 sorties with 500 kg of ammunition, otherwise you are just yap.


                Whip - you will see it in the mirror ...
                Check YouTube for strikes against targets by our air forces.
                Then go to the mirror and confess to yourself.
                1. 0
                  31 May 2022 15: 42
                  That is, there will be no confirmation. And the flights of the Su-34 with 500 kg of ammunition, only your couch fantasies.
                  As for me, I somehow know the problem of take-off weight in practice.
            2. +1
              31 May 2022 15: 08
              And in order to drop a couple of bombs of 250 or 500 kilograms, does it make sense to keep and drive Su-34s to Ukraine, where they regularly suffer losses?
              Maybe the Su-39 attack aircraft (which had protection against MANPADS) or which strike UAV would do better? And cheaper.
            3. +1
              1 June 2022 10: 27
              In the tactics of modern wars, the maximum bomb load has not been used anywhere, in principle, for the last 50 years.
              I suspect that this is because these wars are waged against an extremely technically weak enemy. After all, the barmaleys in Siri have neither air defense nor fighter aircraft, they don’t even have air defense systems like Thor or Buk, only MANPADS. Therefore, a fighter takes off to destroy some warehouse, two missiles behind his eyes. Now hostilities are taking place near the Russian borders, where all these technical means are in abundance. In a good way, this Reaper should not even rise. And in the sky he is threatened by a mass of everything. We proceed from the fact that he will not return to the base. That is, he must destroy the maximum number of targets before he is shot down. For this, he was hung with six suspension points.
      2. +5
        31 May 2022 12: 24
        Quote: Antonina Ignatenko
        You read the article before commenting: with a full load above 8 km, Reaper will not rise.


        You are not reading an article with speculation, but technical information.
        There, the term "Cailing Service" is listed at 50 feet.
        The ceiling service is a working ceiling. Not the maximum flight altitude, but the maximum altitude with full functionality.
        1. 0
          31 May 2022 21: 29
          Quote: SovAr238A
          You are not reading an article with speculation, but technical information.
          There, the term "Cailing Service" is listed at 50 feet.
          The ceiling service is a working ceiling. Not the maximum flight altitude, but the maximum altitude with full functionality.

          I'll duplicate it here too.
          SovAr238A, apparently, you are very far from aviation. The term Service ceiling translated into Russian - Practical ceiling. The practical ceiling has nothing to do with the fulfillment of any target tasks (functionality in your terminology). In the term Service ceiling there is no English term meaning a target task.
  35. +3
    31 May 2022 10: 35
    The electronic warfare system (EW) of the Russian Armed Forces jammed a NATO drone (UAV) that was trying to conduct reconnaissance in the interests of Ukraine over the Black Sea

    Russian electronic warfare systems suppressed a NATO strategic drone over the Black Sea, which approached the coast of Crimea. Potentially, the device tried to conduct reconnaissance of Russian objects and forces in the interests of the Ukrainian troops

    The source did not reveal other details of the episode.

    "RIA Novosti" (c)
  36. +3
    31 May 2022 11: 28
    These systems reveal their potential only when the side using them has air superiority. Those. on the Russian side, they would have been fully revealed.
    But on Ukrainian there are problems.

    The fact is that now Ukrainian aviation prefers to move close to the ground, hiding from Russian radars.

    To use Reaper in this format is, to put it mildly, debatable, although it is possible, it just turns into an expensive version of Apache. It can be shot down by MANPADS or barrel mounts.

    If it rises higher, then, due to its dimensions and height, it is detected by surveillance radars of the same meter range. (Wherever the United States used these UAVs, such radars were either knocked out at the beginning of the war or they didn’t exist at all).

    And here the speed factor begins to play, in order to fly from Lviv to Nikolaev, it will take him 2 hours.

    And if the bayraktar was a relatively small UAV, then the Reaper is large and expensive .. and therefore it is not a sin to hunt for it by our fighter aviation, which is armed with missiles with a launch range of 80 km.

    Those. we have enough technical means to beat Reapers.
    Well, in the bottom line, everything will depend solely on the ability ... of the Americans to plan and carry out strike operations, on our part to hunt reapers.

    It is also worth remembering that the US will also collect information and observe exactly how we will hunt ... in order to understand our tactics and develop countermeasures in the future.
    So... it's not that simple in that sense.
    1. -1
      31 May 2022 18: 19
      Shoot down a reaper from a MANPADS if it hangs at an altitude of 9000 km and a range of 450 ... 600? Even 300 km away, he doesn’t need to come closer.
      1. +2
        31 May 2022 22: 46
        Quote: O. Bender
        Even 300 km away, he doesn’t need to come closer.

        Maybe then it would be better for him not to fly at all!? bully
      2. 0
        6 June 2022 11: 37
        And from 300 km what will he shoot, see, highlight ??
  37. 0
    31 May 2022 11: 49
    Well, everything is clear with control points, Creech airbase, and American satellites, as well as American operators, i.e. Will the United States become parties to the conflict? And then what? A nuclear strike on an air base, with all the consequences? Or arrange a satellite fall with the same consequences? In short, the Americans generally went crazy and think that everything is allowed to them am
  38. +1
    31 May 2022 11: 50
    So everyone knew that the UAV would be given. Then the tanks will go, planes and soldiers.
    Spain put us hard. As always, the Spaniards can only spoil us.
    1. 0
      6 June 2022 11: 39
      Donbas gives a very bad example of Catalonia. Referendum, independence, etc. That's what they're afraid of.
  39. 0
    31 May 2022 12: 03
    The Reaper, especially with a full load of weapons, flies much lower. Up to 8 thousand meters, like Bayraktar, only faster.


    This is false information.
    Term Service ceiling - that is, the maximum working height with the ability to perform all tasks - and is exactly 50 thousand feet. What is 15km.
    1. +1
      31 May 2022 12: 17
      Quote: SovAr238A
      This is false information.

      Eight kilometers is, apparently, the maximum height of laser target designation.

      Well, we must take into account that all the figures published in open sources may not fully correspond to reality. Or just get old. For example, Wikipedia in the performance characteristics of the Reaper refers to sources from 2008-2010.
    2. +3
      31 May 2022 18: 26

      It remains only to understand what then means with weapon 30 000 ft
      1. +3
        31 May 2022 21: 32
        Quote: Alexander Vorontsov
        It remains only to understand what then means with weapon 30 000 ft

        This is a practical ceiling with a certain (weight not indicated) payload and a certain (weight not indicated) fuel supply. It has nothing to do with the height of the target task.
        1. +4
          31 May 2022 22: 45
          Quote: Comet
          Quote: Alexander Vorontsov
          It remains only to understand what then means with weapon 30 000 ft

          This is a practical ceiling with a certain (weight not indicated) payload and a certain (weight not indicated) fuel supply. It has nothing to do with the height of the target task.

          A commentator before me wrote that "Service ceiling - that is, the maximum working height with the ability to perform all tasks - is exactly 50 thousand feet. Which is 15 km."
          From which it follows, then 15 is the ceiling with weapons (once the completion of all tasks).
          I gave a screen, which shows different heights 15 just a practical ceiling and a 9 m ceiling with weapons.
          Which, as it were, indirectly confirms the thesis, which was cited even higher that a fully loaded reaper has a ceiling of less than 15.
    3. +1
      31 May 2022 21: 26
      Quote: SovAr238A
      This is false information.
      The term Service ceiling - that is, the maximum operating height with the ability to perform all tasks - is exactly 50 thousand feet. What is 15km.

      SovAr238A, apparently, you are very far from aviation. The term Service ceiling translated into Russian - Practical ceiling. The performance ceiling has nothing to do with the achievement of any targets. In the term Service ceiling there is no English term meaning a target task.
    4. 0
      6 June 2022 11: 41
      And without loading and with a minimum of fuel, will it rise by 22 km? Will it not break? laughing
  40. +3
    31 May 2022 12: 06
    I read the comments and just got pissed, the problem is not in the miracle-peelace itself and its performance characteristics, they will find something to shoot down, but in the precedent !!! Tomorrow they will cut through Ukraine on abrams with American crews, if they don’t stop at the root, and then they’ll just trample on the infantry, it’s a trial balloon, well, they’ll shoot down, and the American operator is safe and not harmed, but it’s necessary that they get hurt, not a piece of iron , that's the problem. America only understands pain, but they don’t give a damn about iron, this is profit for arms corporations, the more we hit, the more profitable they are hi
    1. ada
      +1
      1 June 2022 01: 16
      Vashcheta, the honorable mission to burn there in abrams, was solemnly entrusted to the pshekhs for their own loot, but only according to early calculations of the mess, not earlier than the 25th year. It’s kaneshno initially, the pshekhs were supposed to burn in their own and in front (like the Svidomites), and the abrashi, like anti-tanks, were somehow later and behind (yes, with the UN mission, God forbid), but here SASHA’s misunderstandings are closer to us by the 20th year they cleared up and flooded the pshehams. No, the mattresses themselves would be in the coalition, but ... "What will dad say?" (mult.). And "daddy" said to Uncle Joe: "We know" and so he did it with his head and sent out all sorts of papers and began to make obscene proposals, well, everything finally went off schedule and how to get it. And here, China is still nomadic, not up to the infantry yet, but to send something to the wards - so, the god of Amerigovsky himself ordered. Yes, and the local plan needs to be saved - influence is leaving, resources are being taken away, the platform is being taken away live - this is a pain! In short: "Chief, everything is gone - the plaster is being removed! The client is leaving!" (cinemat.). Here, not only Reaper will go, the uncle himself wanted to go (he declared publicly). hi
  41. +2
    31 May 2022 12: 10
    The author wrote a lot, but somehow missed one. The control and maintenance point is located in Lviv (Ternopil), etc. according to the list. I would like to remind the author that "calibers" fly to Lvov, as to their home. Yes, the dimensions of the device will not let you hide it so easily. If in the event of the arrival of a "caliber", "dagger", etc., mattress servicemen die in territory 404, what and how will the Pentagon explain?
    1. +1
      31 May 2022 13: 29
      Quote: TermNachTER
      The author wrote a lot, but somehow missed one. The control and maintenance point is located in Lviv (Ternopil), etc. according to the list. I would like to remind the author that "calibers" fly to Lvov, as to their home. Yes, the dimensions of the device will not let you hide it so easily. If in the event of the arrival of a "caliber", "dagger", etc., mattress servicemen die in territory 404, what and how will the Pentagon explain?


      Control centers are located in Texas and Illinois.
      You have to come to terms with this.
      And no mattress will die.
      Even Reapers flying out of Italy or Germany are still controlled from the USA.
      For the control of the apparatus is carried out only via a satellite channel.
      And for him it makes absolutely no difference where the operators sit.
      Ping - will be the same for the entire US satellite communications system.
      1. +1
        31 May 2022 14: 14
        Read the article carefully, it says exactly what and where it is.
        1. +1
          31 May 2022 15: 05
          Quote: TermNachTER
          Read the article carefully, it says exactly what and where it is.


          The article is a lie.
          Not a single UAV operator such as Reaper, GlobalHouse, Predator travels outside the United States.
          It's practically their law.
          Only technicians and guards go to the place of basing, whether to Romania, Italy, or Germany. Doesn't matter.
          Operators themselves never go anywhere.
          The article was written by someone who is not at all interested in military topics.
          And he writes not what is. And their conjectures due to illiteracy.
          1. -1
            31 May 2022 19: 52
            Do you live in the USA? do you have a clearance form "00"?
            1. 0
              1 June 2022 11: 24
              Quote: TermNachTER
              Do you live in the USA? do you have a clearance form "00"?

              I just read a few years ago a directive stating that UAV operators are prohibited from traveling outside the United States while on duty in order to protect them from any possible option of persecution by third countries.
              1. 0
                1 June 2022 15: 52
                Did you think that it's just a disinformation? for so many reasons.
          2. 0
            1 June 2022 10: 40
            Everything changes and any rule is subject to revision.
          3. +2
            1 June 2022 18: 08
            Thomas Mark McKerley and Kevin Maurer in "Liquidator: Confessions of a Combat Drone Operator" lied, right?
  42. +3
    31 May 2022 12: 43
    There is only one problem, in such a battle 1000 sorties per day are needed. Single sorties do not solve anything
  43. 0
    31 May 2022 12: 45
    This is not a full-fledged participation in the war?

    How long can you moan about it?
    Where is the action?
  44. 0
    31 May 2022 13: 22
    If our air defense does not knock these reapers out of the sky on the very first day when they appear, then we all tryndeli about its capabilities. This is a simple target for any air defense system, low-speed high-altitude, clearly visible, even unable to make an evasive maneuver. Why are there some beeches or tori when there are s300-400 and so on that should shoot down such things. Working at maximum range.
    1. 0
      31 May 2022 13: 31
      Quote: certero
      If our air defense does not knock these reapers out of the sky on the very first day when they appear, then we all tryndeli about its capabilities. This is a simple target for any air defense system, low-speed high-altitude, clearly visible, even unable to make an evasive maneuver. Why are there some beeches or tori when there are s300-400 and so on that should shoot down such things. Working at maximum range.


      The network is full of videos from bayraktars - it doesn’t hurt, and they immediately “pick up” ...
      1. +1
        31 May 2022 15: 49
        And why did you decide that it was from bayraktars?
    2. -4
      31 May 2022 15: 02
      Quote: certero
      This is a simple target for any air defense system low-speed high-altitude highly visible

      Why did you decide that it is well visible?
  45. +1
    31 May 2022 15: 37
    Quote: DenVB
    Quote: certero
    This is a simple target for any air defense system low-speed high-altitude highly visible

    Why did you decide that it is well visible?

    At least because there is a propeller. In any case, the radar surface of this drone is large enough to be reliably detected by all our air defense systems.
  46. 0
    31 May 2022 15: 40
    Quote: SovAr238A
    Quote: certero
    If our air defense does not knock these reapers out of the sky on the very first day when they appear, then we all tryndeli about its capabilities. This is a simple target for any air defense system, low-speed high-altitude, clearly visible, even unable to make an evasive maneuver. Why are there some beeches or tori when there are s300-400 and so on that should shoot down such things. Working at maximum range.


    The network is full of videos from bayraktars - it doesn’t hurt, and they immediately “pick up” ...

    Video is present but not at all in such quantity as one might expect. The reaper is much larger in size
  47. +3
    31 May 2022 15: 54
    To put it simply, it will not help Ukraine due to the presence of the Russian Air Force and Air Defense .... but the presence of it in the RF Armed Forces would greatly help our Armed Forces. We would have real-time reconnaissance information throughout the depths of Ukraine and could deliver pinpoint low-power strikes in real mode ........
    1. +2
      31 May 2022 22: 25
      I agree. Only you need not Reaper, but Pacer with a satellite dish. For Reaper is an expensive thing with a large EPR.
  48. +2
    31 May 2022 16: 33
    seasoned article, on all counts!
    the danger for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is enormous, regardless of what form it will be presented in - reconnaissance or strike.
    Air defense from the ground is not a hindrance to him: the number of satellites they have is an order of magnitude greater, which means everyone will see and warn
    only aviation remains, but there are other problems here: the air defense of the kraine has not been suppressed this time, we will not be able to have early detection - there are not enough detection tools and their placement, and the satellite constellation is small to track them from above, the question is the location of the detection tools: the same island in the sea and the "dad"!, yes, it is he who will have to be installed in order to illuminate the western part of the country
    so many tasks
  49. +2
    31 May 2022 20: 53
    Banal. Better air defense is tanks at an enemy airfield. But.
    The tactics and strategy of using the complex will be changed. Management from 3 countries and take-off from jump sites as prepared as possible and for tasks remote from the theater of operations. The operator doesn’t care where. Prepared took off, gained altitude, worked, returned to the depths of its territory. I am sure that the work will be in a group with the cover of their aviation. Massively and for us it hurts.
    Way to counter. Warhead with high-altitude detonation and EMP release. A second time is not required. The rest is picking with a spatula in the sandbox.
    They are torn apart. Accordingly, everything should be cut down from their own. De-energized.
    And yes, the satellites will be charred. And ... with them.
  50. -2
    31 May 2022 22: 11
    Quote: BoA KAA
    Quote: malyvalv
    burning control satellites in orbit. Quite legal.

    NO ! It's naked CASUS BELLI!
    The attack of the Amer military satellite is an attack on the US Armed Forces (Air Force). And after that, who wants to wind bloody snot on his fist? Moreover, the Ams know for sure that we have such funds. Disabling a satellite constellation is the first sign of preparations for a preventive RN. Do you want to provoke TMV!?

    And the attack on our troops by the US Army is not "CASUS BELLY", it's just an incident ... "It's nothing, it's an everyday thing," as Carlson said. They didn’t hit Putin, and okay.
  51. -1
    31 May 2022 22: 37
    Naturally, the control station is equipped with the latest multi-channel communication system Multi-Level Secure / Integrated Communication System (MLS / ICS), which is maximally protected from external influences. The communication system makes it possible to transfer large amounts of information through closed channels both to the operational control center and share it with other subscribers.
    Why are they intercepted and imprisoned? Since such loud characteristics.
  52. +2
    31 May 2022 23: 03
    Another reason to regret the lack of AWACS in sufficient quantity and variety. If detected in a timely manner, this UAV has no chance of surviving against fighter aircraft. If they really appear in the skies over Ukraine, it will be possible to shoot down the RQ-4 Global Hawk, which is constantly circling over the Black Sea. Sorry, there was a mistake. They thought "Reaper".
  53. +1
    1 June 2022 10: 17
    Of course, our “experts” have already told all over the air that large and clumsy “Reapers” will fall under the blows of Russian air defense systems more trenchantly than small “Bayraktars”.

    Only the helicopters that attacked the Russian oil refinery did not fall for some reason! They flew up at a low altitude from being bombed and just as calmly flew back intact...
    So there will still be problems. The supply of Western weapons, which is critical for the Ukrainian Armed Forces, is not interrupted; the transport infrastructure still exists. This is truly a strange war! In which, first of all, all bridges, all junction stations, all railway depots and repair shops, factories must be destroyed. Just like power plants and communication centers! But no... In general, for good reason, in February there should have been not an incomprehensible raid on Kyiv, but the cutting off of Ukraine from the western borders through the Zhytomyr region. to Vinnytsia, with a counter attack from the south.
    By the way, we have in storage quite a large number of tactical missile launchers of the Tochka-U and Scud (Elbrus) types, I assume that there are plenty of missiles for them, you can shoot like a machine gun at critical infrastructure facilities


    I would like to know, with such a variety of foreign drones, where is our swarm of similar equipment?!? In terms of yachts and expensive cars, we seem to be ahead of the rest, but in terms of drones we haven’t done well? Wasn't it enough?
  54. Two
    +2
    1 June 2022 15: 27
    hi In general, stripes will operate these "lawnmowers" while located at the base in Sigonella or even in Nevada. So the Turks, sitting in Nakhchivan, controlled their TV-2, which hammered targets in the NKR.
  55. +1
    1 June 2022 20: 01
    The issue of creating means of destroying enemy satellites is long overdue.
    1. +1
      2 June 2022 19: 32
      This is much more difficult and more expensive than shooting down an MQ-9 Reaper, and then how to choose the right one among them and over whose territory to shoot it down, there is no time for satellites, at least they somehow resolved the issue with wheel pair changing stations on the railway.
      1. 0
        7 June 2022 00: 00
        in fact, there are international agreements that above a certain height it is considered space and anyone can hang and fly anywhere, anywhere, the North Koreans constantly launch missiles at Japan, and they don’t charge them with anything, that’s why they don’t violate
  56. 0
    6 June 2022 07: 56
    A good and dangerous car. I hope that due to their cost, the quantity will be small.
  57. 0
    6 June 2022 10: 50
    The very idea of ​​fighting in slippers without leaving home is unviable. American dream. But it won't go astray. Where will they find unprotected air defense targets, if only such people dare to attack? How will the fighters get around?
  58. 0
    6 June 2022 15: 57
    Quote: svp67
    And here is the attention, the question: where in this system is there a place for Ukrainian "specialists"?
    Like where, and who will sweep the airfield? Who will bring the tails to these "Reapers"?
    In general, of course, this is not a joke ... If they appear in the sky of Ukraine, this will mean the US DIRECT ENTRY into the war, and how will our leadership respond to this?


    How-how, will express concern......
    1. 0
      8 June 2022 10: 15
      We must remember about tethered balloons, they will complicate flights at low altitudes and make it difficult to target missiles from UAVs. If the balloons are filled with hydrogen and equipped with detection sensors, then their detonation will create a danger for the UAV; by the way, the shell of the balloons can be made transparent for less visibility.
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  60. -1
    12 July 2022 23: 39
    Well, we waited. Now cities and factories near the outskirts will burn, Konashenka will be given another star, and Putin will sternly read something else from the screen. Everything, 6... is going according to plan!
  61. 0
    30 July 2022 19: 35
    What will be worth a thousand words when strength of hand matters?
  62. 0
    7 August 2022 10: 17
    After the first appearance of the Reapers, it is necessary to start shooting down American satellites over Ukraine and Russia! This will completely devalue this technique!

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