Motor Sich plant in Ukraine burning after missile attack caught on video

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Russian troops continue a special military operation in Ukraine. Today, large industrial enterprises of Zaporozhye, which worked in the interests of the Ukrainian military-industrial sector, have been hit by missile strikes. We are talking about the factories "Progress" and "Motor Sich", where they produced aviation engines and other components, including for drones Turkish development and combat helicopters.
Footage with the results of rocket strikes is published by residents of the city of Zaporozhye.

So, in one of the videos, you can see rising clouds of smoke above the workshop complex of the Motor Sich enterprise.

Recall that earlier Chinese investors were going to buy a controlling stake in this enterprise. The Ukrainian side first agreed and accepted the first tranche of payments. And then suddenly a statement came from Kyiv that the deal should be reviewed. According to experts, this is due to the "advice" from the Americans, who did not want the technology for the production of aircraft engines to come to China. Later, the Ukrainian side even stated that the enterprise should be nationalized "with the subsequent option of a fair privatization."

The head of Zaporozhye said that the industrial enterprise was badly damaged. At the same time, he did not name the specific plants that were hit today.

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[Saboteur_Navy]

We would like to capture their technology and documentation! It would be useful!
Apparently they kept the plant for themselves all this time.

[credo]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

We would like to capture their technology and documentation! It would be useful!
Apparently they kept the plant for themselves all this time.

Either this has already been done, or another way has been found to replace the products of these enterprises.

[Osiris]

Our OKB Mil and Kamov had all their technologies, new models have long been mastered in Tver, Kazan and St. Petersburg. Under Yanukovych, there was a serious project for our investments in the Motor Sich Plant, but the events on the Maidan crossed them out, then the Chinese appeared, they allocated large investments, but they were also thrown ...

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

We would like to capture their technology and documentation! It would be useful!

And what would you like to see there? Since the time of the USSR, there has not been a single significant development! The plant slowly but surely degraded ...

[bayard]

Quote: Hunter 2

Since the time of the USSR, there has not been a single significant development! The plant slowly but surely degraded ...

And yet, quite recently, helicopter engines (for the entire line of medium helicopters), engines for the An-124, for the Be-200, for the Mi-26M were smuggled into the Russian Federation from there. As well as spare engines for the entire line of An aircraft.
If we had captured this plant in the first push, one could have no doubt about the prospects of our Il-112, Il-114, An-124, Be-200, Mi-38 and Mi-26T ... and all restrictions on the production of all Mi-8\17\24\35\28, Ka-52\32\27M\29 lines, as well as with the production of heavy and medium attack (!) UAVs, light aircraft, L-410, L-610, could finally build Ansats and Ka-226 with their own engines, and possibly the long-suffering Ka-62.
And I must have missed something.
Notice how many?
Of course, they produced much less than under the USSR, but they provided a huge fleet of Soviet aircraft and helicopters all over the world with spare engines.
Even after 2014, when ties with the Russian Federation were severed, both the Russian Federation, and China, and India preferred to buy engines (primarily for helicopters) precisely in / on - Zaporizhia, and not debugged and not sufficiently reliable (I hope so far) those the same Russian-made engines.
The Chinese dreamed of such an asset, and perhaps the Turks are counting to this day.
They did not sit without orders, although they did not choke on them.
And if you remember the magnificent propeller-fan engine for the An-70 ??
After all, it was these engines that were supposed to stand on the deck Yak-44 ...

The acquisition of such an asset would be a "great blessing" (Chinese expression) for the Russian aircraft industry. He would give SUCH a kick for the take-off of this industry of ours, unsuccessful in many respects ... that I even doubt that we would not be able to build then.
And I really want the industry to take off.
... After all, she is like a hedgehog ...

But apparently the realization has come that this plant will not be left intact to us.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: bayard

bayard

I fully support you! Having kept the factories of Zaporozhye, Kharkov, Nikolaev, Kyiv, we would have received a lot. And they wouldn't be redundant.

[bayard]

Precisely so that these plants in Russia do not get the whole bodyaga and started. From the words of Clinton that "Without Ukraine, Russia will never become a great power" and "We will never allow Russia to recreate the USSR under any other form and name."
Without these factories, the Russian Federation has neither the Navy, nor transport aviation, nor helicopters in the proper quantity and assortment, nor all of the above.

[JPD]

A good factory, they exploited their products a lot, the fact that Bandera wanted to sell it to the Chinese once again indicates that temporary workers came to power ... sell everything and dissolve with the dough. It’s a pity the plant, if it comes under Russian control, it would be nice to restore it ... Sofa experts have no idea what titanium welding and many other technological processes that are know-how are ... the Chinese grabbed it for a reason ...

[Nafanya from the sofa]

We would like to capture their technologies and documentation!

Where did you find "their technologies" there? This is all Soviet heritage.
But "their" is

[Paladin]

Shaitan-arba, purely in kind, Yes!)))))))

[svp67]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

We would like to capture their technology and documentation!

Their most valuable asset, the Aviatech enterprise in Donetsk, where blades for engines were produced, is no longer with them.

[Paladin]

God bless her, with the documentation, they produced outdated engines. And most of the important specialists have been working in St. Petersburg since 2014.

[Bobik012]

Gouged so that the Chinese did not get it. Let's take Zaporozhye, the Chinese will say - let's take our factory. Not to give it away is somehow not friendly, and not according to the law (we are not cool, in fact). Giving away is also not ice, there are technologies and equipment that, as it were, should not be given to the Chinese. And now - please take it, dear allies, one hell, there's nothing left ...

[DenZ]

Quote: Bobik012

Do not give - somehow not friendly, and not according to the law

Well, firstly, we did not deceive the Chinese in anything. Ukraine threw them with the plant, and then we took the plant by force. So why should we give what we have won to the Chinese? If he were Chinese (legally, which never happened)) then perhaps it would be necessary to somehow pay off with the PRC

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

We would like to capture their technology and documentation

By themselves, the documentation and technology is not bad, but ...
And together with production sites, experienced workers, this is what you need.
Too bad you had to hit them. So they do not plan to take it in the near future. And so that he would stop producing engines for Turkish UAVs, they hit him.

[archiroll]

If only they didn’t get into the shop for the production of blowtorches. They are needed in Siberia.

[Lech from Android.]

where aircraft engines and other components were produced, including for Turkish-designed drones

There were reports that the Turks are preparing an operation to capture Aleppo in Syria ... however.

[certero]

I can’t understand one thing, what kind of engines for bayraktars are we talking about?

[serguei france]

on the AKINCI UAV, Ukrainian-made engines of different power are on different versions of this combat drone. In particular, we are talking about engines manufactured by Ivchenko-Progress State Enterprise and Motor Sich JSC.

[Egoza]

Quote from serguei france

In particular, we are talking about engines manufactured by Ivchenko-Progress State Enterprise and Motor Sich JSC.

I hope the Chinese will not make claims to Russia.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Egoza

I hope the Chinese will not make claims to Russia

Do the Chinese have documents confirming that this is their factory? Why, then, did some banderlogs run their plant?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Egoza

I hope the Chinese will not make claims to Russia.

You are right, because:

Russia is postponing serial production of a joint aircraft with China due to disagreements. The $20 billion project is being handled by the United Aircraft Corporation and China's COMAC. It was assumed that the wide-body airliner will enter the series by 2025. However, according to Ravil Khakimov, CEO of Irkut Corporation, there are "difficulties" in working with Chinese partners.

https://kapital-rus.ru/articles/article/rossiya_otkazalas_ot_sovmestnogo_s_kitaem_samoleta/
Why does the Russian Federation need to "carry chestnuts out of the fire" for the PRC ...
Neither the EU, nor the USA, nor the Russian Federation is unprofitable for Motor Sich to go to the PRC .... and for Ukraine to remain a manufacturer of aviation equipment, no one at all ....

[serguei france]

Power plant: 2 Ukrainian AI-450T turboprop engines with a capacity of 450 hp each. with.

[sen]

According to experts, this is due to the "advice" from the Americans, who did not want the technology for the production of aircraft engines to come to China.

This is how the demilitarization of Ukraine should be carried out.

[Poetry]

The Chinese comrades are not so offended, perhaps? Don't reach out to anyone!

[Crisp]

Quote: Saboteur_Navy

We would like to capture their technology and documentation! It would be useful!
Apparently they kept the plant for themselves all this time.

Saved it for the Chinese. At their request. But, after the start of nationalization, when the Chinese lost all hope that they would take what they bought, they decided to bang. Documentation own is much more acceptable always. And we have enough of it, in relation to OUR materials, equipment and everything else. What is needed is not someone else's developments, it is enough that there is in iron, mined in battle or bought before the war. There are no Binomials of Newton there. You need loot. Loot, and more loot. A lot and focused on the production of what we need, for ourselves, and for our own airplanes, drones and other things. Borrowing someone else's is like trying to work with your left hand instead of your usual right. It is much easier to write your own program than to try to split someone else's.

[Grandfather Pikhto_2]

Don't say. After the Patriotic War, the exported factories from Germany helped to restore the economy. And we got the technology.
Another thing is that motorsich has not evolved much

[28st region]

Recall that earlier Chinese investors were going to buy a controlling stake in this enterprise. The Ukrainian side first agreed and accepted the first tranche of payments. And then suddenly a statement came from Kyiv that the deal should be reviewed. According to experts, this is due to the "advice" from the Americans, who did not want the technology for the production of aircraft engines to come to China.

What can I say lucky the Chinese. Saved money

[Bobik012]

Just the money is about ... bali

[Pulkovo1942]

workshop complex of the enterprise

Until the last, I hoped that Motor Sich would not be touched. Against the backdrop of problems with the Orion engines (they are Austrian), Motor Sich could be an excellent help for a quick launch of a domestic engine into a series. Plus a lever of pressure on the Turkish Sultan.
Even if Yuzhmash gets fucked, then we get a bunch of subsidized regions with crowds of pensioners.

[Volodin]

Quote: Pulkovo1942

Until the last, I hoped that Motor Sich would not be touched. Against the backdrop of problems with the Orion engines (they are Austrian), Motor Sich could be an excellent help for a quick launch of a domestic engine into a series. Plus a lever of pressure on the Turkish Sultan.
Even if Yuzhmash gets fucked, then we get a bunch of subsidized regions with crowds of pensioners.

Did I understand correctly that you are of little interest in the lives of our soldiers? Like, well, let the attack drones riveted further, but jobs would be preserved ...

[Pulkovo1942]

Like, well, let the attack drones rivet further

And what prevented the de-energization of production? Why thrash around the shops.

[Pavel73]

Alas and ah, before us is not a fraternal Slavic state, but an analogue of Nazi Germany of the 1945 model. It's not us, it's them who decided that. Be there at least jet Messerschmitts and V-2s, all this is intended for the West's war against us.

[KCA]

There will be no heap, because after constant mobilizations of the able-bodied population there will not remain, either in the ground, or at the construction sites of the national economy, BAM-2, for example, it is necessary to build, the Power of Siberia-2

[Stepan S]

Even if Yuzhmash gets fucked, then we get a bunch of subsidized regions with crowds of pensioners.

There are no crowds of workers at Yuzhmash, the rest of the tanks for the Anteres are brewed and that's it.

[alexey alexeyev_2]

Yes, when the Vushniki retreated, they would have blown it up. Without options

[Mavrikiy]

Motor Sich plant in Ukraine burning after missile attack caught on video

Shaw hasn't burned down yet... rotten.

[sick53]

Great, keep it up!

[maiman61]

Burn, burn bright, so that it does not go out!

[Andy_nsk]

So do not get yourself to anyone!

[Alex Kron]

More rocket and other strikes.

[certero]

Quote from serguei france

on the AKINCI UAV, Ukrainian-made engines of different power are on different versions of this combat drone. In particular, we are talking about engines manufactured by Ivchenko-Progress State Enterprise and Motor Sich JSC.

Thank you. then a very serious question arises why only now, 3 months after the start of the special operation, this plant was hit.

[Piramidon]

Quote: certero

why only now, 3 months after the start of the special operation, they struck at this plant.

Do you have your own beat schedule? Why should we ask questions? Make a complaint to the General Staff why they are not acting on your schedule.

[Wbond]

... don’t get to anyone! .... they threw the Chinese ... they went against us ...

[Crisp]

Quote: Grandfather Pihto_2

Don't say. After the Patriotic War, the exported factories from Germany helped to restore the economy. And we got the technology.
Another thing is that motorsich has not evolved much

Well, they compared God's Gift with .... Ruin. 80% of the industry is destroyed. The transported plants are Yaroslavna's lament. Without walls and roofs. 27 million dead. Three times as many people with disabilities. You don't know. Having worked at the plant for a very long time, in design bureaus I understand perfectly well that poking around in someone else’s head to understand WHY it’s done this way is an order of magnitude more difficult than just imagining HOW the machine you are designing should work. And many other things become clear. The equality of the task, the equality of mathematics, the equality of technical requirements give rise to almost a copy of someone else's. BUT for production, other people's machines are not needed. And their technologists will calculate processing modes no worse than the damned ones. After all, they know the properties of THEIR materials. Not strangers, after all, puzzles.

[Crisp]

Quote: Pulkovo1942

workshop complex of the enterprise

Until the last, I hoped that Motor Sich would not be touched. Against the backdrop of problems with the Orion engines (they are Austrian), Motor Sich could be an excellent help for a quick launch of a domestic engine into a series. Plus a lever of pressure on the Turkish Sultan.
Even if Yuzhmash gets fucked, then we get a bunch of subsidized regions with crowds of pensioners.

Naturally, it is necessary. The victory over the Ukronats is not just a VICTORY, but a VICTORY final, irrevocable, and with a huge gap between their losses and ours. Ahead of us after the destruction of Ukronazism, the destruction of Polish Nazism, and other other Nazisms. And the Dnieper, Yuzhmash, Sich, and a hundred others should be destroyed for educational and demonstration purposes. For educational purposes for followers. To shut up and not squeak. It is not yet clear where we will have the borders of Russia in the West. And the rest of Ukraine must lose not only that, but any hope of restoring its Nazism and power. . If this enters Russia, we will do it at a new technological level. For myself. And to leave Sich whole is to give it to the Chinese in the future. For free.

[Crisp]

Quote: certero

Quote from serguei france

on the AKINCI UAV, Ukrainian-made engines of different power are on different versions of this combat drone. In particular, we are talking about engines manufactured by Ivchenko-Progress State Enterprise and Motor Sich JSC.

Thank you. then a very serious question arises why only now, 3 months after the start of the special operation, this plant was hit.

Sich was sold to the Chinese. The Chinese slobbered 3 billion greens, but the sale was stopped at the kry, and the money was not returned. The Chinese were hopeful. what .... But the kry decided to nationalize Sich. Dot. China lost hope of getting a purchase and said goodbye to the loot. Now we have no reason to keep this production. Their request was carried out to the limit.

[wladimirjankov]

Judging by the video, the damage is minor. Will recover quickly. In order to take this plant out of work for a long time, it must be bombed and bombed. Three, four calibers for such a spaced enterprise is very small. Let's get down to business formally.

[agond]

In World War II, up to a hundred or more Allied aircraft could participate in one raid on a target in Germany, hundreds of tons of bombs were dropped, and then one rocket hit the smoke went, but immediately the news, the plant was on fire.