Guns "Hyacinth-B" on the defense of Donbass

Cannon "Hyacinth-B" of the People's Militia of the DPR

A significant contribution to the forceful demilitarization of Ukraine is made by artillery units and subunits of the Russian army and the militia of Donbass. They are armed with systems of different classes and types, and all of them are used. In particular, towed guns 2A36 "Hyacinth-B" are being deployed to firing positions. These 152-mm guns allow you to attack and effectively hit a variety of targets at a distance of tens of kilometers.

"Hyacinth" in battle

The towed gun "Hyacinth-B" is among the weapons available to all participants in the current conflict. Guns of Soviet design and production in various quantities are available to the ground forces of Russia, the people's militias of the republics of Donbass and the Ukrainian army. At one time, it was Ukraine that "helped" the two self-proclaimed states to obtain artillery. Almost the same is the case with the self-propelled gun 2S5 "Hyacinth-S".

The Ukrainian side has been using its Hyacinths since 2014, almost from the very beginning of the civil war. Shelling of the cities of Donbass from such guns was carried out on a regular basis, incl. in violation of signed agreements. Shortly before the start of the Russian Special Operation, the activity of Ukrainian artillery increased again. However, soon the Russian army began to stop such activities by force.

Driver at work

A certain number of Ukrainian "Hyacinth-B" at one time became the trophies of the Donetsk and Luhansk militias. These weapons immediately began to be used against the former owners. It is still used today - along with other guns and howitzers, 2A36 products are used to liberate the occupied territories. Recently, the press service of the People's Militia of the DPR showed an episode of the combat work of the Hyacinths and their crews in the area of ​​the settlement. Makeevka.

An interesting video was published on the resources of the NM DPR on May 15. It shows how the crew of the towed "Hyacinth" went to a given position, deployed the gun and prepared to fire. From reconnaissance, he received the coordinates of an area target in the form of a cluster of enemy equipment and manpower. The gunners performed the necessary calculations and fired a series of shots.

The control of the results of the shooting was carried out by a reconnaissance UAV. He filmed the moments of hitting and undermining the shells. Also in the frame were the burning ruins of buildings used by the enemy as shelters.

The Russian army also has similar weapons, but its use has not yet been reported. Probably, the role of 152-mm howitzer artillery in the Special Operation is completely assigned to the towed and self-propelled products "Msta-B/S". In addition, the 203 mm caliber systems are used. These weapons are available in sufficient quantities, and, probably, therefore, it is possible to do without the involvement of 2A36 products.

Features and capabilities

The towed gun 2A36 "Hyacinth-B" was developed in the first half of the seventies at the Special Design Bureau of the Perm Machine-Building Plant. Lenin (now Motovilikha Plants). In 1975-76. the gun successfully coped with the tests, was put into service and entered the series. The release of such systems continued until the end of the eighties. In parallel, work was carried out on the self-propelled gun "Hyacinth-S".

The Hyacinth-B gun is a towed gun of traditional architecture. It is capable of firing direct fire or from concealed positions in order to destroy manpower, equipment and structures on the march or in places of concentration. The gun is large in size, its length in the stowed position is 12,9 m. Weight is 9,76 tons, which places high demands on the tractor. The calculation of the gun includes 8 people.

Product 2A36 is built on the basis of a rifled barrel of 152 mm caliber, approx. 50 klb. The barrel is equipped with a developed muzzle brake. The breech accommodates a semi-automatic shutter with a horizontal wedge. The gun uses a separate-sleeve loading principle. A chain mechanism is provided for sending, allowing you to perform up to 5-6 rds / min. The barrel is mounted on advanced hydropneumatic recoil devices.

Specially for the "Hyacinth-B" a reinforced carriage was developed, corresponding to the mass of the gun and the loads during firing. The design of the upper machine provides horizontal aiming within 25 ° to the right and left from the central position. Vertical guidance - from -2,5 ° to + 57 °.

The lower machine is equipped with a two-axle wheel drive; in preparation for firing, the wheels rise above the ground. Between them, under the carriage, there is a lowered pallet-support with a hydraulic jack. There are traditional sliding beds with developed coulters and a towing device.

Aiming is carried out using an optical sight OP-4M-90A or artillery panorama PG-1M. Guidance drives are manual. In the Russian 2A36M modernization project, the standard gun devices were supplemented with modern satellite navigation systems and a computer. The presence of this equipment speeds up the binding on the ground, the calculation of data for firing and preparation for the shot.

Shooting results

For the 2A36 gun, an own line of separate-shell shots was created with shells for various purposes and a variable charge. The main ammunition is a high-explosive fragmentation projectile 3OF29 weighing 46 kg with 6,7 kg of explosive. When fully charged, the projectile flies 28,5 km. The 3OF59 active-rocket projectile has a range of 33,5 km. It is possible to use the Krasnopol guided projectile. Smoke, cluster and even nuclear shells were also developed.

Potential and danger

In terms of the combination of performance characteristics, the 2A36 Giacint-B gun, like its self-propelled version 2C5, is one of the most powerful guns of late Soviet development. So, in terms of firing range and the power of ammunition, it surpasses all samples of its own and previous times, yielding only to the 203-mm 2S7 Pion gun.

The large size and weight of the gun, as well as the large and heavy single-shell shot, to some extent make it difficult to move, deploy and combat use. However, this is considered an acceptable price to pay for high fire performance.

In general, "Hyacinth-B" and its ammunition have a high potential. At the same time, the full use of all possibilities depends on auxiliary means - intelligence, control and adjustment. At present, there are all the necessary tools of this kind, allowing you to get the best possible results.

Burnt "Hyacinths-S" in Berdyansk. The guns were abandoned by the Ukrainian marines while fleeing

The Russian army and the militias of the republics use various types of UAVs for searching for targets and / or additional reconnaissance. Batteries and gun crews receive target designation via existing communication lines, after which they fire. Fire adjustment is carried out by the same UAVs. The constructed communication loops make it possible to significantly speed up the exchange of data, which increases the efficiency of fire and reduces risks.

It should be taken into account that the Ukrainian artillery uses similar principles of work, incl. for the effective use of 2A36 guns. This fact is taken into account by our troops, and the necessary measures are being taken. The Russian and Republican armies are trying to track down and shoot down enemy Drones, as well as suppress communication channels. In addition, the means and methods of counter-battery combat are used - any enemy “Hyacinth-B” detected, like other guns, is subjected to prompt demilitarization.

Artillery confrontation

Despite its considerable age, the 2A36 "Hyacinth-B" towed gun is still effective and dangerous. weapons. The characteristics of the gun itself and its ammunition are at a high level and allow solving all the assigned tasks. The introduction and use of additional means makes it possible to increase specific parameters and improve the results of combat work in general.

The high potential of the Hyacinths is currently being used by the NM of the DPR to protect their republic and in order to help in the demilitarization of Ukraine. At the same time, a certain number of guns remain in service in the Ukrainian army and pose a threat to the Donbass and the Russian army. However, the results of such a confrontation of the same type of artillery are quite predictable. Ukrainian guns are waiting for the destruction or transformation into a trophy of the advancing troops.

Comments

[Borik]

"Genocide" is another name for this weapon.

[svp67]

Quote: Borik

"Genocide" is another name for this weapon.

There is such a letter in this word ... But the gun already clearly needs to be upgraded to the level of "Dilemma - 2A36M". And it would not hurt to create a CAO on the basis of "Dilemma" using BSh BAZ, in the image of CJSC "MALVA"

[stankow]

And the Russian military do not want a wheel, only a goose. They see better.

[NetKeys]

Have you heard of Hurricanes? What about Deaths? Well, at least BM-13. All on
"geese".

[stankow]

Rszo does not go to the very front line. She can also be on wheels. And if you need to make a march together with motorized infantry and tanks, you need everything under the same cross-country ability. And then any arable land will cut off artillery from infantry and tanks. What will you fight in the morning? According to the charter, it is not supposed to start a fight without arti. And what, will you wait until she gets better? The battalion commander does not need this, he has a task and a line for the day.

[NetKeys]

You made an extremely unambiguous statement, without mentioning the features and the "division of labor": the Russians do not want wheels, only "goose". Here I was amazed.

[stankow]

Yes, the statement was too rude. You must always argue.

[sen]

The large size and weight of the gun, as well as the large and heavy separate-shell shot, to some extent make it difficult to move, deploy and combat use.

On the next branch there was a message that Ukraine began to use Western radar stations en masse for counter-battery combat. And for towed guns, the deployment-collapse time is longer than for self-propelled guns. It is necessary to help the republics with equipment, not only captured, but also ours.

[UAZ 452]

With the introduction of counter-battery radars, towed artillery becomes disposable, as are its crews. Modernization should include installation on a mobile chassis, if this is impossible or unprofitable, write-off. The gun should destroy the enemy, not its own calculation.

[Cartridge]

"Where's the money, Zin?" Towed 3-5 times cheaper. Not all "I want" are fulfilled

[UAZ 452]

It's still expensive for a one-time weapon and a one-time calculation. In addition, 3-5 times more expensive than self-propelled guns based on armored vehicles, on a car chassis - the difference with a bunch of towed guns and a tractor (and where without it?) Is much less significant. And the advantages of armored self-propelled guns over automobile ones are far from obvious, and in the case of long-range artillery, there are more disadvantages (greater weight, cost, lower speed).

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Unfortunately, ours also massively pulled towed artillery systems to the front. There is an acute shortage of modern self-propelled guns. Msta is also somewhat outdated, and only Shoigu of the Coalition knows how much is actually in the troops. As always, adoption does not at all mean actual presence in the troops.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

There is an acute shortage of modern self-propelled guns. Msta is also somewhat outdated

Msta-S is outdated? Duc, in battles, by the way, they are used on both sides, and "Acacias"! Only from the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and NM LDNR - "old" "Acacia"; and from the side of the VSR - modernized "Acacias"!

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Unfortunately it's really outdated. She became outdated even in the first Chechen. Yes, there are modifications that allow you to reach modern imported models, but the firing range is already too small. I'm not talking about Acacia. We are saved only by the fact that the enemy is armed with similar or obsolete models of equipment. After all, there are PLZ 05, PZH 2000, AS 90. What will we do if they start to be supplied or similar? Who are we going to fight anyway? Our main probable adversary NATO or Nigeria? Even the upgraded Msta S is inferior in range to the listed systems by 10 or more kilometers.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

Msta is also somewhat outdated, but

What does obsolete mean? Until the troops are saturated with the Coalition, Msta should be in the required quantity. But Hyacinth, due to poor mobility, should have been abandoned a long time ago. I understand it's expensive. But it's not more expensive than the lives of art. calculations.

[alexmach]

Until the troops are saturated with the Coalition, Msta should be in the required quantity.

So there is not enough of it in the required quantity.

I understand it's expensive. But it's not more expensive than the lives of art. calculations

There was a variant of a certain wheeled "Malva" there. But something is there with her for a very, very long time everything works out.

[stankow]

Not in the "mass", but it seems that they finally began to use art. radar.

[alexmach]

So after all, the self-propelled guns themselves are not enough.

[couch]

for the most modern and good guns, a trained staff is required (this is most important). In addition, artillery reconnaissance (observers or a drone) is needed, and experience comes only during battle, and then whoever has stronger nerves wins

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

Well, that's probably why our commanders still prefer 2c3 to everyone else because it's easier to train fighters on it. No need to bother like Msta S or Coalition. And I don't care that she's already 50 years old.

[alexmach]

You don't have to worry about how

Something tells me that artillery is fundamentally not about "no need to bother." It doesn't work that way with her. You still need to with her.

[agoran]

In the video I watched, the Hyacinth battery destroys the battery of the American 777 during towing.
So, what a very good weapon. Adding a modern automated control system is not bad at all.

[Negro]

)))
What's the roller? Are you talking about that one minute from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, where shooting from a hyacinth is shown, and then someone without a face and identification marks says that he probably destroyed the M777 battery? Or at least suppressed. Well, or she stopped shooting for one reason or another. If, of course, she was there at all.

[agoran]

No. In the video, a single strike, then the guns are towed into the green, then successively destroyed. The video was taken from a UAV.

[Negro]

How interesting. Well, keep posted.

[Cloud4CRY]

Quote: agoran

Adding a modern automated control system is not bad at all.

And put on a wheeled self-propelled gun. It will be what you need

[stankow]

There are no such self-propelled guns that withstood the rollback of Hyacinth. Only from the ground, base plate, two beds.

[unhappy]

No need to invent anything, Russia has how many hundreds of Peonies left in storage (they have excess power for most combat missions), the chassis of these machines are perfect for Hyacinth trunks.

[Vladimir61]

A certain number of Ukrainian "Hyacinth-B" at one time became the trophies of the Donetsk and Luhansk militias.

6th Cossack Regiment Platova, every day, from evening to morning, chopped them back in 2015-2016, suppressing the activity of dill, and then another "truce" and "article" for violating the order. What was the stupidity, against the background of the incessant shelling of trappers, both on the LBS, and cities, towns of the LPR.

[Nikolaevich I]

For the 2A36 gun, an own line of separate-shell shots was created with shells for various purposes and a variable charge. It is possible to use the Krasnopol guided projectile. That's it ! Own line! I heard that "Hyacinth" artillery shells cannot be fired from howitzer artillery guns ... But vice versa? Although, "Krasnopol", for example, you can ... Ammunition "Hyacinth":

- 3VOF39 with 3OF29 projectile Snipe (projectile weight 45,7 kg, 6,42 kg of explosives) with a full charge 4Zh47, range 28,53 km;
- 3VOF40 with a 3OF29 projectile with reduced charges 4Zh48 and 4Zh60, range 21,55 km;
- 3VOF41 with 3OF30 active rocket Cormorant (44,63 kg, 4,88 kg of explosives) with a full charge 4Zh47, range 33,08 km;
- 3VOF86 with 3OF59 projectile Ridge (43,2 kg, 7,8 kg of explosives) with a full charge 4Zh47, range 30,5 km;

- 3VOF87 with a 3OF59 projectile with reduced charges 4Zh48 and 4Zh60, range 23 km;

- inert variants 3VOF39IN, 3VOF40IN, 3VOF41IN;

- and a complete set nuclear shells - Chamomile, Mint, Aspect-1, Aspect-2, Aspect-3, Aspect-4, Symbolism-1, Symbolism-2, Symbolism-3, Symbolism-4 with charges power 0,1-2 kt;

- adjustable projectiles Centimeter (weight 41 kg, 10 kg explosive) and Krasnopol (weight 45 kg, 9 kg explosives) at a distance of 20 and 25 km, respectively.

[Cartridge]

The guns have different charging chambers. Easier - compare the sizes of the shells (charges) for MSTA and Hyacinth (almost 1,5 times larger). They can fire only ammunition: 152 mm D-1, D-20, 2S3, MSTA-B, MSTA-S (plus MSTA already has its own new ones), Coalition + its own; 122 mm D-30 and 2S1. This is called unification and cheapening.

[agoran]

As far as I know, each gun/barrel has a certain resource.
The number of shots is recorded in the passport.
I wonder how different the Hyacinth resource is from Amer's 777?

[Cartridge]

Our guns have a longer resource, because our shells use a copper (soft) leading belt, and p.i.n.d.o.s.o.v from NATO has a ready-made steel thread (it erases and scratches the barrel faster) . Among the types of barrels, the barrels of howitzers, howitzer-cannons, and mortars live longer. In peacetime, 3000 shots are considered the norm for them. Cannons, including "Hyacinth", "Peony", "Rapier", "SPRUT" and tank barrels, have more wear due to the greater charge power. With normal maintenance and upkeep, it can be doubled. Yes, even wartime .... You will have to more accurately and more often align the sights and take into account the increasing dispersion ellipse (corrections should be introduced when preparing the SLA).

[agoran]

Thanks for the information.

[TreeSmall]

and p.i.n.d.o.s.o.v from NATO has a ready-made steel thread (it erases and scratches the barrel faster)

Surely they do not have a copper obturator?

Czech 155 ERFB BB

[Cartridge]

On the first photo I agree (they are practically "licked" from our OF-540). On the second, note that the obturator is steel and painted with mastic (so as not to rust), and even higher there are fillings to stabilize the projectile in the barrel. They are also steel. But in general I agree with you. NATO also began to switch to copper, but the main arsenal (not these long-range felder and for new guns) has steel obturators.

[TreeSmall]

I don't know who licked who. The story comes to mind: a gun and a crushed brick with a left-hander.
Czech projectile write:
cupfer driving band 155 erfb bb
The "fluffs" that the bourrelet nub have are for stabilization in flight. And when fired, the barrel does not touch.
And why would they have steel obturators?
What would the barrel wear out faster?
They are not beggars. Their weapons cost a lot of money, at times or an order of magnitude more expensive.

[stankow]

No. Of course, the belts are copper. It is not the barrel that wears out, but the charging chamber lengthens (by erasing the beginning of the rifling). The projectile's initial velocity drops. Corrections for Vini are entered for each gun, always. At approx. fixtures are not affected. The barrel is rejected when Vnach drops to 10%

[Cartridge]

Not everything is so simple, dear. In the textbooks of universities earlier (I don’t know how now) the issues of the design and functioning of small arms and cannon and artillery weapons were outlined. Here is an extract: “Barrel wear refers to any irreversible changes in the surface of the bore caused by the impact of a shot on it. Thus, barrel wear is not only a change in the size and shape of its bore, but also the formation of a network of cracks on it, chemical and structural transformations into material, permanent deformation of the surface, etc." ... Trunk survivability criteria:
1. Decrease in the muzzle velocity of the projectile: by 10% - for ground artillery guns; by 5% - for naval artillery guns; by 3% - for tank and anti-tank guns. The drop in initial velocity corresponds to a decrease in the maximum pressure of powder gases during firing, which can also be used as a criterion for survivability.
2. An eight-fold increase in the scattering area product observed three times in a row.
3. Regular (more than 30%) non-arming of the inertial fuse when firing with the smallest charge.
4. Systematic cutting of the leading belt (breakdown of the projectile from the rifling) when firing from a rifled barrel or dismantling of a feathered sub-caliber projectile in a smooth-walled barrel.
5. Increased ovality of holes when firing at the shield. For ground artillery, for example, it is accepted that when firing at a distance of 40..60 m, the ratio of the maximum size of at least one hole to its minimum size of more than 1,5 is unacceptable, and the barrel is rejected. With a ratio of 1,2 ... 1,5, the barrel is additionally checked for accuracy of the battle.
... It is customary to subdivide wear into erosive, resulting from the thermomechanical effect of powder gases, mechanical - due to mechanical action on the surface of the channel of the leading elements of the projectile, and chemical, due to the chemical interaction of powder gases and barrel metal. In various types of guns, all three types of wear are present with the prevailing influence of erosive or mechanical wear, however, in any case, the determining factor in wear is the heating of the surface of the bore. The wear of the leading part of the barrel bore occurs unevenly both along the length of the barrel and the contour of the rifling, and during operation. Most of the barrels of artillery pieces fail due to wear at the beginning of the leading part of the channel. As criteria for the ballistic state of the barrel, an elongation of the charging chamber or a diametrical increase in the size of the channel along the fields (diametrical wear along the fields) is used....
Factors affecting the survivability of trunks. Ballistic factors Ballistic characteristics such as powder gas pressure, projectile velocity, intra-ballistic process time and, first of all, powder gas temperature, are decisive for the wear and survivability of barrels, since it is on them that the thermal and force loading of the working surface of the barrel bore depends. .
Structural characteristics of the barrel and projectile. The shape, design dimensions, material of the leading elements of the projectile and the leading part of the barrel bore significantly affect the wear and survivability of the barrel. The taper and length of the plunge cone, chamber widening, the number, profile, width, depth and angle of rifling, on the one hand, and the design, number and material of the leading belts, on the other hand, determine (along with ballistic characteristics) the forces and dynamics of the interaction of the projectile with a rifled bore. The intensity of this interaction, which, as a rule, occurs in a heated barrel, largely determines the intensity of wear, and, consequently, the survivability of the barrel.
Operational characteristics. Here, first of all, we mean the modes of fire characteristic of a gun of this type, but the maintenance and care of the bore during the operation of the gun also play a significant role in ensuring the survivability of the barrel.
Well, etc.

[stankow]

Correctly cite the textbook. But in fact, the division has a device for determining the elongation of the chamber. In most cases, they reject it, such aging is worthy even in retirement :) If the table spits, it cuts off the belts, it doesn’t tear (!) Gives - this is already an emergency, of course, immediately into the open-hearth.

[stankow]

Don't compare. Owls. different categories. 777 needs to be compared with Pat-B. 777 is very compromise, hardly durable. They saved too much on her weight.

[Bogalex]

It is possible to use the Krasnopol guided projectile.

Did not guess...

[bk0010]

Vertical guidance - from -2,5 ° to + 57 °.

And why is a gun called with such angles, and not a howitzer or a gun-howitzer?

[stankow]

Probably no (or few) variable charges.

[Vladimir 290]

Cannon hyacinths. Previously, the classification was carried out according to the length of the barrel in calibers. As it is now produced - xs. Pay attention to the firing range. This gun, like the 130mm, is of marine origin. Therefore, the shots are different from other 152mm systems. The sleeve is almost twice as long as that of the d20, the maximum weight of the shot (if my memory serves me right is 110kg). Shells and charges are therefore transported in different closures. The charges, unlike land charges, are closed with hermetic rubber caps, and are not filled in. The shells are also different in shape. Given the purpose - the main projectile is only HE, there are no different cumulative, Sh, etc. In general, a very accurate and long-range weapon. I served in such 5 years, although we had self-propelled guns - 2S5. The rate of fire is quite high, there is a rammer. However, a well-trained calculation works at the same speed without it. I think that this is a very long-range and powerful weapon, and after modernization it only got better.

[Cartridge]

For information:
GUNS are long-barreled guns designed for flat shooting. They serve to destroy vertical and fast-moving targets (tanks, armored personnel carriers, infantry fighting vehicles), as well as to fire at long ranges. They have a longer barrel than other types of guns, reaching 27-45 calibers and a higher muzzle velocity due to the length of the barrel (about 1000 m / s).
HOWitzers are called guns designed for mounted firing (shooting with a steeper projectile flight path than guns). Howitzers are used to destroy enemy manpower and firepower located behind shelters and in shelters, to destroy wood-earth and concrete structures. They have a barrel length of 12-27 calibers, a smaller projectile mass and an initial projectile velocity of about 500 m/s.
HOWitzer-GUN - an artillery piece capable of performing the functions of both a howitzer, firing mainly along a hinged trajectory, and a gun, firing mainly along a flat trajectory. With a howitzer, this gun brings together a large elevation angle (about 60-70 °) and the use of separate loading with a variable charge; with a gun - a significant barrel length (at least 30 calibers) and, accordingly, a high initial speed. Usually (but not always) has a large caliber - 120 mm or more. The term was used mainly in the USSR in the 1930s - 1960s. In fact, it was introduced into the classification for one gun - a 152-mm howitzer-gun of the 1937 model (ML-20). At present, the term cannon-howitzer has a purely historical meaning, since practically all modern howitzers have barrels of considerable length and are thus cannon-howitzers. So, for example, the modern 152-mm towed howitzer 2A65 "Msta-B" has a barrel length of 53 calibers and a maximum elevation angle of 70 °.
GUN-HOUSE - an artillery piece that combines the properties of a gun and a howitzer with a predominance of the former. These include the 152-mm D-20 howitzer gun, which is designed for lay and mounted fire. Compared to a cannon, a howitzer cannon has a slightly shorter barrel length, greater barrel elevation and projectile fall angles. Compared to a howitzer, a howitzer cannon has a longer firing range. Gun barrel length - 25 calibers. The D-20 became the first 152 mm gun system with a semi-automatic wedge breech with vertical wedge movement. Also, this weapon in modification was used for self-propelled guns 2S3 "Acacia".
MORTARS fire at a steeper trajectory. The length of the mortar barrel does not exceed 10-12 calibers. Mortars are fired at an angle of 45 degrees. After the end of World War II, mortars finally fell into disuse. In modern armies, the functions of a mortar are performed by a howitzer, a mortar, as well as multiple launch rocket systems.

[Vladimir 290]

Dear Alexander, thanks for the information, maybe someone will learn something new. So the classification has not changed. However, now there is a tendency, especially among military correspondents, to call all guns howitzers, which personally jars me.

[agond]

In order to assess the probability of destroying a gun and calculating it would be nice to know what the dispersion diameter in calibers is 152-155mm at a distance of 30km, for shells without homing

[Vladimir 290]

100% for a towed gun and calculation in a square of approximately 50 by 50m (for 152mm). On this occasion, there are standards, they used to be with zeros (if you know what I mean), as I don’t know now. At the same time, the gun is very accurate, and they usually shoot not with one, but with a battery.

[agond]

As they write, the M549 RAP 155mm has a CEP of 267 meters at a range of 30 km., This means that there is no question of a direct hit, but to hit a target of the Hyacinth-B type with fragments and it is probably worth looking for a way to protect against them