Since the beginning of the special operation in Ukraine, more than 850 drones have been shot down - the maximum number in the entire history of their use in the world

Russian troops continue the special operation. Major General Igor Konashenkov, official representative of the Russian Defense Ministry, reports on what events unfolded last night and morning.

According to him, various types of weapons, including high-precision missiles, were used against military facilities, places of accumulation of manpower and military equipment. With the help of air-launched missiles, ammunition depots of Ukrainian armed formations in the occupied territories of the Donetsk People's Republic were destroyed. These are warehouses in Berestovoye and Disputable. Five command posts of divisions of various levels were eliminated. In total, up to a hundred militants and over 20 units of military equipment were destroyed.

Army and operational-tactical aviation inflicted a defeat on the 43rd enemy concentration areas. At the moment, the loss of militants from these strikes cannot be calculated. According to the latest information, the enemy could lose up to 250 people as a result of these strikes only with "two hundredths".

In addition to this, Russian artillerymen and missilemen destroyed dozens of enemy facilities in various areas of the special operation, including military facilities in Krasny Liman (DPR), Gusarovka (Barvenkovsky district, Kharkiv region). The enemy positions were destroyed in the area of ​​the Yarovaya settlement on the approach to the Seversky Donets River - north of Slavyansk.

In the meantime, another 13 drones Armed Forces of Ukraine, including one reconnaissance "Bayraktar". He was lifted by the enemy into the air over the Kharkov region - in the Izyum direction.

It is noteworthy that the total number of downed enemy drones since the beginning of the special operation is approaching 900 (currently 858). This is the maximum number of downed UAVs in the entire history their application in the world. And this is more than 2 times more than was at the disposal of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the national battalions as of February 2022. Accordingly, this indicates large-scale deliveries of UAVs to Ukraine from abroad and the fact that the production of such equipment has been intensified in Ukraine itself. The Russian Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile and gun systems, as well as modifications of the Tor air defense system, work most successfully against UAVs.

Comments

[Cowbra]

They say that the tomato ones stopped the supply of Bayraks to the village. Well, it's too late, the myth of the child prodigy has already turned into a pumpkin

[Kayala]

Do not take away the last hopes from the forelocks ... They believed so much in miracle wunderwaffles like Bayraktars and Javelins.
But to tell the truth, they drank a lot of sweat and blood to us anyway. Technique, whatever it is, but if it has a lot of hemorrhoids, it can do it. How many lives of our soldiers are on the conscience of the Turks, Americans, Europeans, Israelis, God alone knows.
But I personally believe that the time will come and everyone will be rewarded for our sacrifices!

[Evil 55]

Again, some kind of lawlessness on the part of the gas station country .. All the UAVs that Matrastan, the Rat Sultanate and Banderstadt did for 10 years were destroyed by the Russians in three months.

[Sasha from Uralmash]

Without the help of NATA, nothing would have happened! The clowns would have left, but the circus would have remained!

[Comrade I]

A fairly large number of people believed in this myth. The truth is about as big as those that foam at the mouth prove the absolute worthlessness of this UAV, or even UAVs in general as a type.

[dauria]

prove the absolute worthlessness of this UAV, or even UAVs in general as a type

The tactic of "free hunting" is vicious. Even if the F-35 is sent to Syria, "You look there and hit it" the end will be the same. And the slug has no chance at all. Aviation (even UAVs) works on reconnoitered targets. If additional reconnaissance is really needed, boards in the group are allocated for this. Yes, and the strike itself is planned with a bunch of tricks and the distribution of roles. Did they shoot down a lot of "Caliber"? Also a drone, but speed saves. And does not spin in the search, substituting.
It’s too early for full-fledged shock UAVs, their brains are not the same. Here is intelligence - they can already do it. Actually, they can for a long time - the squadrons of the BSR were back in the 70s.

[dmi.pris1]

And why would they stop them. The money is dripping and the image? Well, the Turks have a more advanced apparatus.

[Torins]

Well, it's too late, the myth of the child prodigy has already turned into a pumpkin

In vain you are so, these drones inflicted significant losses. Underestimating the enemy is a bad omen. It is good that so many of them were shot down, many lives were saved by this.

[Incvizitor]

They say the urks specifically drop their crooks so that the West sends normal, modern replacements.

[Sevastiec]

This is nonsense of course.

[gansales]

Here you have the UAV .. And then I remember Azerbaijan already pissed with boiling water, as if here it is a new tactic ..!
It will not work with Russia ..! We wet and we will wet And this is not all the possibilities of our electronic warfare, etc.

[tlauicol]

The principle of uneven distribution of forces along the front has not yet been canceled. collect a fist from a UAV - no air defense will help. they, Bandera, they are smeared along the front with a thin layer and brought into battle in parts - they haven’t learned yet

[Volodin]

Quote: Tlauicol

collect a fist from a UAV - no air defense will help

To assemble such a fist, hundreds of UAVs are needed in only one direction - with a "powerful" single command post that will control this horde of motley drones. The task is doable, but it requires you to strain so that you can pretty much crap yourself in other directions

[tlauicol]

have not learned yet - I wrote so. UAV is a thing in capable hands

[saigon]

Understand UAVs are only effective when used in conjunction with other weapon systems.
Douai's theory did not justify itself then, and the same theory for the poor and against an obviously weak opponent did not work against an equal opponent.

[tlauicol]

Naturally. Am I calling for armament with some UAVs?

[gansales]

Quote: Volodin

To assemble such a fist, you need hundreds of UAVs in only one direction - with a "powerful" single command post that will control this horde of motley drones

I agree ! There should be a single control center, and not walk the field ...

[Boycott]

with a "powerful" single command post that will control this horde of motley drones

It seems to me that such a powerful gearbox will glow for electronic warfare like a fire in the night steppe. With immediate calibration upon detection.

[svoit]

Quote: Volodin

but it requires you to strain so that you can pretty well crap yourself in other directions

Yes, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will even get it right, so they will almost completely lose operational intelligence information, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine will cost quite a few hours, since it has many other sources

[28st region]

The conversation is about the total number of UAVs, and not just about drums. We assembled a bunch of quadrocopters with video cameras on the front, i.e. reconnaissance, which work in favor of the company, battalion, so what? Yes, they interfere and interfere a lot, but they are not of decisive importance. And with people like bayraktar, first of all, issues are resolved in the most radical way.
As an air defense specialist, I will tell you that any UAV is an excellent target where there is air defense. It flies slowly, does not perform anti-aircraft maneuvers, there is no jamming equipment, there is no radar detection equipment. There is air defense, ready for battle, UAV target

[Lykases1]

Fine. It's good to be an expert. I have a question - is the quadrocopter easily detected? All the same, air defense is counted on larger targets. Here at the training ground, the shell with guns could not shoot down a drone. In general, the question arises - are they really needed?

[28st region]

Quote: Lykases1

In general, the question arises - are they really needed?

What are you from? What is needed?

[svoit]

Quote: 28st region

What are you from? What is needed?

Is it obvious that guns are needed if they are weak against UAVs?
As it turns out, they are still needed, since they can shoot down low-flying types of movies, squad level, platoon, they rarely rise above 1 km and with an optical guidance channel can be shot down by a cannon

[Lykases1]

Guns. But that's okay. I'm more interested in whether a small quadcopter will detect a shell or a torus? Unless, of course, this is secret and if you served in such complexes. For example, I have slight doubts that all drones are easily detected

[28st region]

Absolutely everything is covered. But as they say, something is in the details. If all this is on the screen, it will be almost impossible to distinguish, for example, a bird from a copter. There is such a SDC, a system of moving targets. Again there is BUT. All targets with a speed of, for example, below 100 km / h will be cut off.
In addition to the radar channel, there is a video channel with wide and narrow viewing modes.
It is clear that it is impossible to detect absolutely everything, but still most targets are detected and destroyed.

[Lykases1]

Thanks for the answer

[Taimen]

SDC, in radar, is the selection of moving targets. There are special compensators to remove locals .. But basically you are right.

[28st region]

Yes, of course, I was wrong. Apparently he tried to write the answer faster and faster, and instead of selection, for some reason the system crawled out.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: 28st region

If all this is on the screen, it will be almost impossible to distinguish, for example, a bird from a copter.
.

Birds don't emit radio signals...
Any UAV has a reverse communication channel with the operator - the video signal from the camera is transmitted to the operator - the channel is encrypted in technology is more complicated, but there is a signal source and it is guided through it.
We can say that today air defense does not use radio signals from UAVs to detect and target them ... but it might be worth working out such a possibility in Ukraine ...
In principle, there is electronic warfare to combat UAVs - its job is to cut off all simple UAV targets.

[28st region]

Quote: cat Rusich

Birds don't emit radio signals...

For that they reflect.

[lucul]

The principle of uneven distribution of forces along the front has not yet been canceled. collect a fist from a UAV - no air defense will help

Ahahaahah))))
Well, you assemble an impact fist from an UAV - and they will immediately cover it with Iskanders on the ground, that's business))))

[tlauicol]

Disperse over airfields, gather your fist on the spot, in the sky above the front from various directions

[lucul]

Spread across the airfields, gather your fist on the spot

Which airfields??? At
Bayraktar has a range of only 150 km)))

[Dart2027]

Quote: Tlauicol

assemble a fist from a UAV

And they will be covered at the airfield, because there is no air defense.
The UAV, like any other weapon, fights as part of the army as a whole.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote from gansales

Here is the UAV

And what's the problem.?
UAVs are just consumables. Let's also count how many cannon shells or MLRS missiles have been spent. And, by the way, we also need to figure out what kind of UAVs our Shells and Torahs shot down, maybe they were tiny quadrics at a price orders of magnitude cheaper than the missiles that shot them down.

[28st region]

Are we transferring everything to money? And how much do you think a soldier's life is worth, which will be interrupted due to the fact that this quadrocopter flies and transmits information about where the soldier is hiding?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: 28st region

Are we transferring everything to money?

A weapon does not grow on a tree, it must be made. It's stupid economics, and there's no getting around it.
Again, at the very first lesson at the university, we were told that the goal of the war is to inflict damage on the enemy with minimal damage to ourselves, which is not at all about shooting down a penny drone with a "golden" Thor. And weapons of the appropriate level did not appear in our air defense.

[28st region]

Those. you suggest not to touch them? Let them fly
You know, they also shoot at observation posts with very expensive ATGMs. Some weirdo is sitting there with binoculars, and balls are being fired at him with such a rocket. What do thieves do. under their judgment.
So?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: 28st region

So?

No, not so.
If on trial, then those who drew up the "plan" according to which the war is now going on.
The army must have a full line of weapons and ammunition for all occasions, so as not to shoot sparrows from a cannon.

[28st region]

Quote: Jacket in stock

And weapons of the appropriate level did not appear in our air defense.

Is there such a weapon somewhere? There was not and no. I really hope that it will be created on the basis of the experience of this war. But it all depends on the leadership, and it seems to have focused on large missiles, the rest is secondary.

[stankow]

After TNW carriers, NP is the second most important target for artillery. By statute. KP - the third, etc.

[28st region]

What is the statute of the KP?
The charter of the cottage settlement?

[Bolt cutter]

shooting down a penny drone with a "golden" Thor.

If the problem can be solved with money, then this is not a problem, but an expense.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Bolt Cutter

If the problem can be solved with money, then this is not a problem, but an expense.

Money has an unpleasant property to end at the most inopportune moment.

[Bolt cutter]

If you produce weapons yourself, and not beg, then everything should be normal. Or let these quads kick around ? So that then something else flew in?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Jacket in stock

And weapons of the appropriate level did not appear in our air defense.

I don’t remember how many times they remembered what appeared after Syria.

[svp67]

It is noteworthy that the total number of downed enemy drones since the beginning of the special operation is approaching 900 (currently 858)

And if we add to this number those lost by our army during the conflict, then it is worth recognizing that UAVs have now become a common tool of war.
And most of them, of course, are not large reconnaissance drones, the necessity and usefulness of which has already been proven thousands of times on the battlefield.
The most offensive thing is that they talked about this long before this conflict, but only now the state-owned Rostec is worried about setting up their mass production

[UAZ 452]

They don’t look as brutal in parades as cruisers, tanks, strategic bombers, etc. Therefore, they were dealt with on a residual basis - if there was absolutely nothing else to do with the money. Well, they didn’t deal with communications, intelligence, and management at all - because these achievements can’t be demonstrated at all in parades.

[gansales]

Quote: svp67

The most offensive thing is that they talked about this long before this conflict, but only now the state-owned Rostec is worried about setting up their mass production

Do you think that Russia does not have enough of them Sergey? Perhaps they simply don’t particularly “shine” in this regional conflict .. There are enough aviation and missiles for this Nazi horde
They are being protected for a more serious conflict, which is about to break out .. But I really hope for the cowardly essence of the West .. They are already afraid and trembling for their well-being .. The main thing is not to retreat !!!!
And all UAVs are easily jammed ..

[Jacket in stock]

Quote from gansales

Do you think that Russia does not have enough of them Sergey? Maybe they just don't really shine

Yeah, so deeply disguised that the fighters have to buy household drones with their own money. They say already in Russia they bought everything that was available.

And all UAVs are easily jammed ..

yes, parades. And in battle they fly and work for themselves.

[leks]

Quote: Jacket in stock

Quote from gansales

Do you think that Russia does not have enough of them Sergey? Maybe they just don't really shine

Yeah, so deeply disguised that the fighters have to buy household drones with their own money. They say already in Russia they bought everything that was available.

And all UAVs are easily jammed ..

yes, parades. And in battle they fly and work for themselves.

So it is, in the dns for a month and a half, as at first the prices soared, and now it’s just out of stock. Also, these outbidders pulled themselves up, figured out which way the wind was blowing, bought up a cheap one and sold it to our volunteers at three prices.
The most interesting thing is that these UAVs were bought by volunteers with the money of those who are not indifferent, and not only UAVs were bought, but also first aid kits, which our guys in the linear units are much worse than those of the APU. I’m generally silent about the militia, along the way they generally have to fight with what they have.

[svp67]

Quote from gansales

Do you think that Russia does not have enough of them Sergey?

Yes ...

Quote from gansales

They are being cherished for a more serious conflict, which is about to break out ..

Do you yourself believe in it? Paying with the lives of soldiers for such "savings" is very expensive

Quote from gansales

And all UAVs are easily jammed ..

No, not everything and not so easy to do. Electronic warfare is a "double-edged weapon", jamming something from the enemy, at the same time it is also jammed by us

[Dikson]

Actually, this is a very big and serious problem. neither helicopters with precious crews, nor elite pilots with machines that cost much more than such UAVs .. Even in today's conflict, when enemy air defense is not suppressed and the number of MANPADS exceeds all expectations .. - losing an UAV is much more painless than a manned combat vehicle ... Doesn’t this simple truth reach the supporters of “What for, we need this, cheap PR, and we’ll beat everyone in batches anyway, we have destroyers driving the Khibiny and in general, we’ll reach Paris in three days in tanks ..” We’ve already arrived. To the neighboring village .. And another question, is it supposed to be much use from the promoted "Hunter"? Well, in the current situation, such a machine is like the fifth leg of a dog .. - you can’t fly, they’ll knock you down ... it’ll be a pity .. And a small, slow-moving plastic rattle with two rackets like “shot and forget” - it won’t be a pity at all .. Ah, yes .. no troops .. well then, the old fashioned way will have to .. as it is written in the textbooks, according to which the generals once studied ..

[lucul]

In fact, this is a very big and serious problem .. A penny, not a penny, but the Bayraktar with the "needed" missiles, with the GOS, is very good in its class ..

Where is he good? It is only good against an enemy that does not have air defense. Against Russia, with its air defense, Bayraktar turned out to be completely ineffective, which is proved by the huge number of downed UAVs.
Actually, this was talked about even during the Karabakh war, but not everyone can perceive reality adequately.

[Dikson]

The amount of our burned equipment thanks to these "unsuccessful" Bayraktars, including boats and ships of our Navy .. doesn't tell you what? The picture quality of this "worthless" craft is twice as good as that of our combat helicopters and other products .. and so, of course, Against the "Sarmat" - complete bullshit, yes ..

[gansales]

Quote: svp67

Do you yourself believe in it? Paying with the lives of soldiers for such "savings" is very expensive

This is geopolitics and the lives of soldiers are now being protected judging by the destruction .. The war has already begun concrete ..

Quote: svp67

No, not everything and not so easy to do. Electronic warfare is a "double-edged weapon", jamming something from the enemy, at the same time it is also jammed by us

I agree ! Therefore, they give the Azov people to communicate and cry on the net (well done mask))
And we get a lot of information from this communication ..
PS The "Hunter" UAV is not used on the outskirts and its leading Su-57 .. There is no point!
Russia is being monitored by the West, and if everything is applicable, what we have will not be very good in the inevitable future conflict ..
This is how things began Sergey And the victims of this contraction are 19-year-olds, not fired, who were thrown to Kyiv, hoping to take them impudently .. The kingdom of heaven to them.
Now everything is different .. gone!

[leks]

No, not everything and not so easy to do. Electronic warfare is a "double-edged weapon", jamming something from the enemy, at the same time it is also jammed by us [/ quote]
Oh, this electronic warfare))) some people think that such a direct child prodigy that can do anything. Someone once wrote in the comments for another 14-15 years that when ours come and cut the reb, all communication will disappear in / on dill and complete silence will come. Even birds will be afraid to chirp. And what we see in practice, but in reality we see that the dill receive information almost in real time.

[dmi.pris1]

There were pictures of our "Cubes" shot down. Or simply fallen, but did not work. This is loitering ammunition.

[Incvizitor]

I believe that the Russian Federation now lacks the likeness of an ac 130 to plan near the battlefield and constantly systematically pound the banderlogs.

[Sergey39]

Turks, they supply bayrotars, through momo-skiers! (((

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Sergey39

Turks, they supply bayrotars, through momo-skiers! (((

The Turks deliver directly and do not worry,

[sen]

The Russian Pantsir-S1 anti-aircraft missile and gun systems, as well as modifications of the Tor air defense system, work most successfully against UAVs.

How does Pantsir-S1 shoot down small UAVs? "Nails" or "big" rockets. In those chronicles that show, only conventional rockets are used.

[UAZ 452]

Bayraktar and other UAVs of a similar size and cost are quite worthy of the Pantsir missiles, but as for tactical-level drones, you are absolutely right - now (or rather, yesterday) the super-important task is to create ammunition for short-range air defense systems, as well as portable , designed to work on relatively inactive, poorly protected, but CHEAP targets, and for this it is necessary that a rocket (or other ammunition) capable of filling it up should be no more expensive (or at least not critically more expensive) than the drone itself.

[Skipper]

here ...... special cheap small ones ..

[Johnson Smithson]

it was with guns

[23424636]

Instead of those shot down, comrade. Konashenkov said how drones are supplied to the combat units of the troops of the republics and the army and the level of their equipment at the combat level. Yes, no way - volunteers across the country are collecting loot to buy a Mawlik for reconnaissance and gunners for 500 thousand or more .. 8 years have passed in empty - there are no small helicopters to quickly and effectively break through information about enemies. It's time to do something about it.

[UAZ 452]

Why do anything at all, if #everything is going according to plan, the owners of wide stripes are all exceptionally wise, perspicacious, heroic...

[Johnson Smithson]

Only in December, a large plant was opened for drones.

[Dikson]

..For which airfield should be built? if you are talking about "Orion" ..

[Johnson Smithson]

there will be not only Orions, the plant is large

for any normal strike UAV, a runway is needed, but with satellite communications, they can even fly on missions from Russia, for example, Reaper has a range of 2000 km

[leks]

Quote: 23424636

Instead of those shot down, comrade. Konashenkov said how drones are supplied to the combat units of the troops of the republics and the army and the level of their equipment at the combat level. Yes, no way - volunteers across the country are collecting loot to buy a Mawlik for reconnaissance and gunners for 500 thousand or more .. 8 years have passed in empty - there are no small helicopters to quickly and effectively break through information about enemies. It's time to do something about it.

You are right, as you wrote above "no way"! Volunteers then outbid bought up everything that was. At the moment, from China, a month to wait for the party and then I heard that they turned the shop.
It comes to the point of absurdity for volunteers that even army first-aid kits are ordered of foreign production, since ours use AMS almost from the 80-90s. Or they are removed from the dryers, since their AMS is much better. I don’t know if it’s true or not, I won’t be able to give proofs, so I’m not saying that ours thought of issuing promedol in ampoules and syringes for them.
PS "Something needs to be done about it" but they won't do anything, given that no conclusions were drawn on 08.08.08, 2014, from the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. Although over these 15 years it was possible to simply buy these UAVs thousands of times we cannot or did not want to produce our own. Even the Turks offered their bayraktars a couple of years ago.

[KCA]

Today I read that ours are scaring the Nazis with E95M target missiles, in fact a reduced copy of the FAU-1 with a pulsating WFD, the target should be cheap, the author of the article called it made of the very same and sticks, and if it flies, you need to react, or shoot, if there is anything, or scatter and hide

[sen]

Today I read that ours are scaring the Nazis with E95M target missiles

The Azerbaijanis also used the old An-2 to open the Armenian air defense.

[KCA]

They wrote about it, but the AN-2 needs to be equipped with an unmanned system, and the plane, even without a resource, costs a lot more, at least it can be used as a donor, and then the finished blank flies

[malyvalv]

Azerbaijanis acted easier. After the An 2 took off, the pilot set the course and jumped with a parachute.

[KCA]

It’s also an option, we had a DOSAAF airfield nearby, paratroopers from the AN-2 jumped there

[malyvalv]

The letter Yu was actually officially returned to the word parachute. After bullying this word.

[couch]

the fact that other people's large drones were shot down is wonderful, but when will we start producing small devices operating at the level of a special group or fighting compartment? this will allow saving many lives of "ordinary wars", and those who sit in the headquarters will be able to take care of themselves

[Dikson]

Today there was information that the Americans want to supply Ukraine with marine drones .., an absolute novelty, kamikaze marine drones ..

[svoit]

In general, UAVs are consumables, like shells, they may not be indicated in the report

[tihonmarine]

Accordingly, this indicates large-scale deliveries of UAVs to Ukraine from abroad and the fact that the production of such equipment has been intensified in Ukraine itself.

That's what intelligence is for, to find out where UAVs are made, and it's up to the Russian Aerospace Forces to raze these production facilities to the ground.

[fruc]

tihonmarine: That's what intelligence is for, to find out where UAVs are made .....

Small drones can be made in small rooms (garage assembly), engines for them are bought in China. That way you can go with the flow.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: frruc

engines for them are bought in China.

If you drive them from China, through Romania.

[Dikson]

You can actually stamp the parts on a 3D printer in the end ..

[voyaka uh]

850 aircraft shot down - but zero pilots died
these aircraft. This is the point of drones.
Operators are alive and ready a minute after the loss of the UAV
to lead a new apparatus into battle.
And pilot training costs millions. And rescue operations
pilots also cost new losses.
And one accurate UAV missile is more effective than 10 FABs thrown
on target approx.

[svoit]

Quote: voyaka uh

And one accurate UAV missile is more effective than 10 FABs thrown

90% of downed UAVs cannot be used as strike ones, but they are very suitable for reconnaissance and target designation, they are especially important for the RF Armed Forces, since other reconnaissance means are frankly weak.
In addition, this total number also includes false targets with a considerable percentage.

[Synoid]

What a crazy nonsense.
"Horses mixed up in a bunch, people"
Most of these drones - meows did not have time to say, as they were shot down long before the place where they were supposed to perform the task.
From the dry residue - the work of air defense and electronic warfare is perfectly built.

"The operators are alive and ready a minute after the loss of the UAV
to lead a new apparatus into battle" - past, strikes can be delivered on a control signal hundreds of kilometers from the UAV (means allow), and the second most of them are tactical - so most of the operators are gone.

[tearlach]

Bravo

[Sergey Kuzmin]

well, ours shot at these "miracles"!

[Looking for]

That's only if dill reported yesterday about the destruction of the newest MI-28. And today they are already showing a plot with a demonstration of the wreckage from all angles. Moreover, from a distance of a couple of meters. And Konashevich every day reports the destruction of dill aircraft. So think. Who is lying more, they or we.

[kill the fascist]

As usual, everyone saw their own :) UAV fans - active use in hostilities and, as a result, heavy losses, which, perhaps, saved serious aviation. And the opponents of UAVs are their vulnerability. In conflicts where normal air defense is involved, drones cannot act as a child prodigy introducing a radical change in hostilities. At the same time, the absence of drones and their non-use for their intended purpose limits the capabilities of the troops, increases losses both among ground and air equipment, and among personnel.

[Ablet]

UAVs are high-tech consumables of modern warfare. Therefore, how many were shot down are not as important as how many are flying now, and how many will be flying in a month, in three, in six months, etc. The problem is that Ukraine will not have fewer of them, but rather there will be more, and new types of UAVs with new capabilities will certainly appear. And more importantly, how our army is doing with drones, and they need a lot and different ones, and they are also shot down or sometimes fall on their own, and this is normal.
And here there are several questions for the authorities: why weren't drones bought MASSIVELY for the Ministry of Emergency Situations, for example, to monitor forest fires; for forestry to monitor forest management; for Gazprom, Rosneft, for example, for monitoring pipelines and/or delivering cargo by parachute to remote shifts, etc. etc. These were great ways to saturate the country with dual-use UAVs. Now all this could be put under arms. What was the government doing?

[Dikson]

Well, as far as I know, there are definitely drones in the Ministry of Emergency Situations, and even more so in Gazprom and Rosneft. With industrial thermal imagers and other serious stuffing .. Just for monitoring routes, towers, communication stations, pipelines .. But no one bought them in batches .. because there is no need ..

[certero]

"Write more than what their infidels regret"
Probably Mavic drones are also recorded in drones? By the way, what do they shoot down?

[Hamman]

In a nutshell, can someone say, Are we (Russia) winning or losing?
The operation has been going on for more than two months and it is not clear who wins? Either the aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are destroyed, or almost destroyed, then the planes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine fly here or there, so what is the real situation on the fronts, are we still advancing or what?

[voyaka uh]

In a nutshell: so far a draw.

[malyvalv]

While they are arguing about how much UAVs are needed, it should already be about how much counter-UAVs are needed. That is, UAVs that clear the sky from small and not very quadrics and other Bayraktars. Judging by the high efficiency of the Nazi artillery, they are very much needed right now. Electronic warfare is clearly not very effective against such devices. Most likely due to the small range.

[Two]

Different tactics for using drones are being tested, perhaps soon they will use swarm tactics on ours. War is a competition of design bureaus from different sides, based on this, more advanced drones are made, as well as means of dealing with them. The main thing in this race is not to be at the end. Otherwise, you read how DNR put a grenade in a mug and then I dump it bitterly to become for our military-industrial complex.

[Olkhovsky]

As for the UAV...

. War is the best litmus. It helps to consider a person from all sides and draw the right conclusions. Often a brutal bearded man, who did not take off his tactical pants day and night, in fact refuses to be a complete insignificance, and a quiet one suddenly demonstrates such qualities that it was difficult to even imagine in him.

I'll tell you about one of them. About a month ago, in Izyum, a short, chubby soldier with cow-like eyelashes and Jewish sadness in his eyes approached me. Politely and a little burr, he asked: Good afternoon, I have been reading you for a long time, could you tell me when the war will end? I felt sorry for the boy who, it is not clear how he ended up in the war. I answered him that we would probably fight for another month, so as not to upset him much.

The boy visibly grew sad and wandered on. Looking ahead a little, I will say that I have never been so mistaken in people. He was upset not by the fact that, according to my words, he would have to fight for at least another month, but by the fact that the war could end so quickly. The guy turned out to be a UAV operator, the son of wealthy parents, who himself signed a contract and went to war.

As my friend Colonel S. says, when he looks at “Mukhich” (the colonel actually gave him such a call sign), he imagines a gray-haired grandmother with a carton of milk, and next to her is a boy with a shanezhka in his hands. The UAV operator on the Izyum Front is not a gamer. This is a man who, under endless fire, is looking for enemy positions and directs artillery. Mukhich was a genius.

Those who have worked with domestic UAVs know that the camera on it, especially the night one, needs to be improved, to put it mildly. Mukhich leads his Orlan based on some kind of instinct and always unmistakably identifies the enemy. At first they argued with him, they said that these were bushes or a puddle, but in a quiet but stubborn voice he continued to assert that it was here that an artillery strike should be delivered. And 99 percent of the time, he was right.

He is not embarrassed by the roar of close bursts of enemy shells, I have never seen him in armor or a helmet. And at the moment when he discovers a position, he no longer lets go of it, despite the opposition of the enemy's electronic warfare. Mukhich can leave, enter from a different angle, but until the enemy starts to cool down or an order is received, Orlan Mukhich will not change his location.

The boy, whom everyone initially made good fun of, has now earned sincere respect. Everyone can see that he really likes the war and that the guy has found himself. Not in a bank, not in public administration, Mukhich found himself in the war. And God forbid, there will be more and more such soldiers.

PS Recently there was a funny case. After the assignment, the commander of the special forces squad, who had just returned from the forest, came to us. Guys, he says, in three days we definitely made over two hundred of seven, here's the data, here's the photo. At that time, Mukhich was with us, he was receiving an assignment from Colonel S. From the corner where Mukhich stood, a quiet voice was heard: and in three days I had made 53 vushniks. We laughed to tears, the more it is true. Well, brother, now I understand how to fight, the colonel said with a laugh in his voice. Kostya (special forces commander) nodded his head in the affirmative, laughing along with us.

THC "senior eds"
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[Soldatov V.]

What do these numbers say? That Ukraine and the West have long and ahead of time created a stockpile of weapons for war with us.
I remember publications that Ukraine has 20-30 Bayraktars and that this is about nothing for our air defense.
It is not that simple. Ukraine now has 3-4 thousand ready-made drones and the same number in detail. This speaks of their total use.
The West needs a long protracted war to exterminate Russians and Ukrainians.
We need a quick victory, such as at least the liberation of Ukraine in 43-44.
What is needed for this in modern conditions? This is to de-energize the entire territory of Ukraine.
This is to destroy the rails at least every kilometer with inexpensive ammunition.
This is to destroy highways capable of ensuring the takeoff and landing of combat aircraft. If they fly from other countries, strike at their airfields. They will treat it with understanding.
It is to completely stop paying for gas transit through Ukraine, and to stop transit in general, everyone already understands how immoral it is for us to pay for weapons used against us.
And work with prisoners for information where, what is and who commands what and strike at the information received.
Find out where the national parts of the mercenaries, for example, Polish and Israeli, are located, and inflict a devastating blow on them, as well as on others.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: V.

Find out where the national parts of the mercenaries, for example, Polish and Israeli, are located, and inflict a devastating blow on them, as well as on others.

Well described.

[iouris]

What do you understand by "drone"? It is necessary to scale "drones", otherwise the statistics turn into their opposite: there are completely "budget" devices that deliver pizza, but they can be turned into a spy drone. But if you have to spend an expensive rocket on a penny device, then the question of efficiency will jump up sooner or later. The enemy has thousands of them. And we have? "And we have gas in the apartment."

[svoit]

Quote: Jacket in stock

at a price orders of magnitude cheaper than the missiles that shot them down

Interestingly, how much will one destroyed BTG cost, which this movie pointed Artoo to?

[Sebostyuan]

"In Ukraine itself, the production of such equipment was intensified"
I have two questions: What prevents you from detecting and "closing" production? What prevents us from starting the production of reconnaissance copters, and equipping the troops with them to the level - in each company?

[Dikson]

Yes, there will be kickbacks about nothing .. so they don’t move .. to organize their production .. they think so .. but if you count .. - one Mavik (well, its analogue) - 500 thousand rubles. yes, in each platoon if .. - good profit ..

[Old Horseradish]

Oligarchic schizophrenia continues. Russia supplies Western countries with gas, Western countries supply Ukraine with drones that kill our army. The oligarchs loot the rest of the coffins. Everything is garlic.

[Looking for]

such an impression. that their own. home-grown Arestovichi appeared in the Russian Federation.

[Looking for]

Quote: voyaka uh

Operators are alive and ready a minute after the loss of the UAV
to lead a new apparatus into battle.

only "... and there are arrows, yes there are no cartridges. And there are artillerymen. Yes, there are no guns. And the operators are alive. Yes, but there are no UAVs !! "

[_Ugene_]

More than 850 drones have been shot down since the beginning of the special operation in Ukraine

unfortunately, this does not change anything, the West will supply as much as necessary, at least 10 thousand, the West is ready to fight with us to the last Ukrainian and in such a protracted war of attrition we have little chance, the economic resources of the USA + Europe are dozens of times greater than us, and human material in Ukraine 40 million people

[Wbond]

[quote the total number of downed enemy drones since the beginning of the special operation is approaching 900 (currently 858). This is the maximum number of downed UAVs in the entire history of their use in the world.] [/ Quote]
... Russia is no stranger to breaking records!

[Dmitry Makarov]

The thing is that Ukraine receives these drones for free, and why feel sorry for them?
If, as in Afghanistan in the 80s, for an incorrectly released "Stinger", a Mujahideen's hand was cut off, then the effectiveness of the UAV could be increased. I advise the CIA to use the "Afghan experience" in Ukraine as well.

[Order]

Not free, grain has already been paid.

[Sergei 777]

And how many conversations there were after Libya and Karabakh. Bayraktar this, bayoactar that. But in the end, if the enemy has normal wax air defense and combat crews, then UAVs at the operational level can be used for a very short time.