“We don’t want to make a second mistake”: Erdogan criticized the idea of ​​admitting Finland and Sweden to NATO

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan criticized the idea of ​​admitting Finland and Sweden to NATO. He said that Ankara is closely watching the development of this issue, but opposes its positive decision.

This statement was made by the Turkish leader in an interview with reporters.



Before that there was an error in connection with Greece. We don't want to make another mistake

- said Erdogan.

He hinted that Greece, being, like Turkey, a member of the North Atlantic Alliance, often behaves unfriendly towards Ankara. The Turkish president noted that the Scandinavian countries often give a hospitable welcome to representatives of terrorists and even allow them to speak in parliament, presumably referring to Kurdish organizations banned in Turkey, in particular, the Kurdistan Workers' Party. At the same time, he did not specify what claims he has against Finland, which geographically still does not belong to the Scandinavian countries.

However, Erdogan believes that in any case there is no place for two new members in NATO.

Recall that the admission of new members to NATO occurs only with the unanimous approval of all members. But there is a possibility that in this case they can accept "according to a special scenario" ...

This year, in Helsinki and Stockholm, they announced a possible departure from the policy of neutrality, which had been adhered to for at least decades, and joining the North Atlantic Alliance. If Finland and Sweden finally decide to take this step, then their applications for admission to NATO will be submitted as early as next week. The Finnish President and Prime Minister have already said that this should be done as soon as possible.
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  1. +9
    13 May 2022 17: 41
    Planes taFay OmeriGa, then the Turks will think! laughing
    1. +23
      13 May 2022 17: 43
      The Finnish President and Prime Minister have already said that this should be done as soon as possible.

      Interestingly, the Finns' main enemies of their people are the president and prime minister. How do they explain to the electorate why one of the peacefully coexisting neighbors will turn into targets?
      1. +16
        13 May 2022 17: 51
        Quote: Mitroha
        How do they explain to the electorate why one of the peacefully coexisting neighbors will turn into targets?

        "Big Daddy" ordered so, and the people of Suomi are a husk, the wind will blow and sweep away. In 1941 they passed it.
        1. +3
          13 May 2022 18: 47
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Mitroha
          How do they explain to the electorate why one of the peacefully coexisting neighbors will turn into targets?

          "Big Daddy" ordered so, and the people of Suomi are a husk, the wind will blow and sweep away. In 1941 they passed it.

          A lesson learned can only be credited if it is learned. hi
          1. +1
            13 May 2022 18: 59
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            A lesson learned can only be credited if it is learned.

            The disciples learned, and not obedient children ignored. They live.
        2. +9
          13 May 2022 18: 48
          Erdogan, of course, is not Russia's friend.
          But he is the only one of the leaders of the NATO countries who is adequate.
          This is already enough to deal with him.
          Although the fact that he is not a friend - you can not forget. So just a business relationship.
          1. +3
            13 May 2022 19: 01
            Quote: Shurik70
            But he is the only one of the leaders of the NATO countries who is adequate.

            Erdogan is in NATO, but not in the European Union, and he understands that Europe looks at him like a wolf. But Russia does not look like that.
            1. 0
              13 May 2022 19: 21
              Russia feeds a lot of people in Turkey with the money of its vacationers in Turkey as citizens, and gas from Russia warms Turkey. Turkey apparently does not want to participate in the European Sabbath.
              1. for
                +3
                13 May 2022 20: 24
                Quote: Alexander 3
                Russia feeds a lot of people in Turkey with the money of its vacationers in Turkey as citizens, and gas from Russia warms Turkey


                And they are in Russia Bayraktararahsaray as scrap metal through Ukraine.
                1. +1
                  13 May 2022 21: 40
                  Quote: for
                  And they are in Russia Bayraktararahsaray as scrap metal through Ukraine.

                  So I say - though adequate, but not a friend.
                  Business is just business.
          2. +7
            13 May 2022 19: 07
            Quote: Shurik70
            Erdogan, of course, is not Russia's friend.

            Yesterday, A.A. Gromyko was recalled here about Western desires to lock the Russian Black Sea Fleet in the Black Sea.
            I would like to once again recall that great man and diplomat about Erdogan
            Better a true enemy than a false friend!

            Yes, he is not our friend. So at least it doesn't wobble. Let not quite the enemy, but it's better than hitting in the back. Sanctions, non-payments, the supply of heavy weapons to the enemy.
            Look, we see Germany. And just like 10 years ago, right up to our very top, they sang "the most reliable trading partner, the most balanced policy in Europe, you never know what happened - but now - peace, friendship, chewing gum." And they caved in under America in the same way as everyone else, in unison.
            1. man
              +3
              13 May 2022 21: 34
              Look, we see Germany. And just like 10 years ago, right up to our very top, they sang "the most reliable trading partner, the most balanced policy in Europe, you never know what happened - but now - peace, friendship, chewing gum." And they caved in under America in the same way as everyone else, in unison.
              Bulgaria and Greece surprise me much more. Especially "fraternal" Bulgaria. Although, if you remember the first half of the 20th century, it should not surprise ...
              1. 0
                13 May 2022 22: 50
                And what exactly "surprises" you? Ambassador killed? Su 24 shot down? Did they send weapons to Ukraine? Was the monument destroyed? Were the Russians driven? What exactly "surprises" you?
                1. man
                  +3
                  14 May 2022 00: 12
                  I am surprised by the regularity with which you betray us.
              2. +6
                14 May 2022 00: 50
                Quote: mann
                Bulgaria and Greece surprise me much more. Especially "fraternal" Bulgaria. Although, if you remember the first half of the 20th century, it should not surprise ...

                Mom was in Bulgaria in the 70s - the Bulgarians treated our people well. My father and I went to Golden Sands in the mid-80s - there were no problems either.
                My father is a military man, I changed four schools in 10 years. For several years he lived in Kuibyshev on Stara Zagora Street near the Shipka cinema. I know that in Bulgaria in the city of Stara Zagora there is Kuibyshev Street. I took Bulgarian fairy tales in the children's library - without translation, read in Bulgarian.

                And in two world wars, the Bulgarians, nevertheless, fought against us. Brothers, damn...
                1. man
                  +1
                  14 May 2022 17: 58
                  Mom was in Bulgaria in the 70s - the Bulgarians treated our people well. My father and I went to Golden Sands in the mid-80s - there were no problems either.
                  But who argues, under the USSR it was almost like the 16th republic was, in the sense of proximity.
                  Under the USSR, there were a lot of positive things in general. Until the 80th, even "the Poles were our friends." Now this is impossible to imagine ...
                  1. +1
                    14 May 2022 20: 31
                    Quote: mann
                    But who argues, under the USSR it was almost like the 16th republic was

                    As they said under the Union
                    A chicken is not a bird, Bulgaria is not a foreign country.
                    lol
                    1. man
                      +1
                      14 May 2022 21: 41
                      That's right, I remember smile I’ll add, in our laboratory there was a graduate student from Varna, a good guy, but he drank vodka in a strange way, not in one gulp, like us, but in small
                      sips smile Eh, I remembered youth, irritated my soul smile
                      1. +1
                        14 May 2022 22: 30
                        Quote: mann
                        I will add, in our laboratory there was a graduate student from Varna, a good guy, but he drank vodka in a strange way, not in one gulp, like us, but in small sips
                        We worked with the Spaniards (the first half of the 90s) - our chief installer did the same thing, only he diluted it with orange juice.
                        We explained to him that it was wrong. We taught him to drink correctly. For his money. With a snack for his money (Then it was relevant. Everything appeared in stores, but the prices were hellish).
                        Then they were subcontractors, they got hit in the neck by the general contractor for cutting out the installation chief for five days from the technological process. lol
                        They themselves worked on it. lol
                      2. man
                        +1
                        15 May 2022 00: 27
                        For his money. With a snack for his money (Then it was relevant. Everything appeared in stores, but the prices were hellish).
                        I remember this time. January 92, the Gaidar rise in prices, and almost all of us became beggars. I ate fried capelin for six months. I still remember that it cost 12 rubles / kg, and raw - 10. Then I was lucky, but how many talented specialists then they drank ... I will never forgive these liberal scum am
                      3. 0
                        15 May 2022 12: 31
                        Quote: mann
                        I ate fried capelin for six months. I still remember that it cost 12 rubles / kg, and raw - 10.

                        Now not everyone will eat it. For example, I can afford it, but in order to eat it out of poverty - sorry ... It costs us more than meat - from 300 / kg.
                        And so - I love it fried, for example. And I also make homemade sprats from it. Much cooler than any purchased
                      4. man
                        +1
                        15 May 2022 13: 20
                        then it was the cheapest food. For comparison, the cheapest sausage cost 60 rubles. The average salary in the country is 250 rubles.
                        And so - I love it fried, for example. And I also make homemade sprats from it. Much cooler than any purchased
                        I would see what would happen to your love if you ate almost half a year exclusively capelin smile
                      5. 0
                        15 May 2022 13: 23
                        Quote: mann
                        I would see what would happen to your love if you ate almost exclusively capelin for half a year

                        I'm not talking about exclusively "capelin" nutrition. I said that now sometimes I buy and that now this food is not for those who decided to save money.
                      6. man
                        +1
                        15 May 2022 13: 32
                        There are such incidents. In the early 60s, for example, there were heaps of black caviar, I remember the pleading advertisement in stores "Eat black caviar, it's healthy"! smile Blue on bad yellowish paper smile
                      7. man
                        +1
                        15 May 2022 13: 33
                        Good luck to you! Gotta go
          3. man
            +2
            13 May 2022 20: 46
            But he is the only one of the leaders of the NATO countries who is adequate.
            This is already enough to deal with him.

            You might think that there is just a line of people who want to do business with us. In such a situation, you don’t have to choose.
          4. man
            +2
            13 May 2022 21: 25
            Erdogan, of course, is not Russia's friend.
            But he is the only one of the leaders of the NATO countries who is adequate.
            This is already enough to deal with him.
            Although the fact that he is not a friend - you can not forget. So just a business relationship.

            Could you list the friends of Russia from the leaders of NATO countries, even if they are inadequate?
    2. +14
      13 May 2022 17: 57
      exactly! Any "no" of Erdogan is just a subject for bargaining.
      1. dSK
        +4
        13 May 2022 18: 11
        Peskov denied reports of Russia's plans to cut off gas supplies to Finland.
        Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov commented on Finnish media reports that from May 13, Russia allegedly stops gas supplies to Finland. - Gazprom supplies natural gas to various consumers in Europe, including countries that are members of NATO.
        Finland sees no direct military threats from Russia, Klaus Korhonen, permanent representative of the republic to NATO, told CNN. RIA News.

        There will be no referendums, the Finns and Swedes have been "shut up".
        For 70 years of its existence, NATO has not released a single member of the bloc from its tenacious embrace. States will leave them to the slaughter for the sake of their prosperity ...
        1. +5
          13 May 2022 18: 19
          Admission to NATO of new members occurs only with the unanimous approval of all members. But there is a possibility that in this case they can accept "according to a special scenario" ...

          So let them accept "according to a special scenario", which, later, will backfire on NATO itself, as with the recognition of Kosovo's independence. If you can accept it that way, then you can leave it that way.
        2. +2
          14 May 2022 09: 10
          Ban gas supplies to NATO countries and that's it! bully
      2. +4
        13 May 2022 18: 19
        They will ask for a high price, so let them pay. As for me, the larger the closet, the louder it falls, the more countries in the union, the more contradictions between them.
    3. +1
      13 May 2022 18: 17
      Rather, a question for Germany and about tank engines in Altai. Ruined such a project, hee hee.
    4. +1
      14 May 2022 10: 37
      Omeriga has already stated that from the territory of Greece she will threaten the Mediterranean, "and not Turkey." They will not return the money for f35 and they will not put f16 on the offset. Pedya is too lively to be treated with connivance and wanted to appease him with a concession. The old patrons no longer rule in the white house, otherwise relations with Turkey are determined by geography and political economy from it next. And here Turkey - "not a brother", "not a lackey", "not a partner" - is too on its mind and with a bunch of contradictions, incl. in economics. It will be ignored and used in obvious schemes where it will not fall off the hook - nor any agreements.
  2. +4
    13 May 2022 17: 41
    One day a swan, cancer and pike... bully
    1. +4
      13 May 2022 19: 16
      Quote: Black
      One day a swan, cancer and pike... bully

      Thought to play a quartet.
      They put the Monkey in a corner ...

      lol, and then banned.
      1. +3
        13 May 2022 23: 50
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Quote: Black
        One day a swan, cancer and pike... bully

        Thought to play a quartet.
        They put the Monkey in a corner ...

        lol, and then banned.

        Nope. Not this way.
        Once a swan was going to drag a pike back and forth like cancer.
        No matter how hard the swan tried, the pike did not give cancer.
        The moral of this fable is this: a bad company has gathered ... laughing
  3. +4
    13 May 2022 17: 41
    “We don’t want to make a second mistake”: Erdogan criticized the idea of ​​admitting Finland and Sweden to NATO
    . Vengeful people, eastern sultans!!!
    Some will shed tears of a mouse, especially when the mouse decided that she was a super mouse!
    However ... there is a subject to bargain, the trump cards are on hand!
    1. +3
      13 May 2022 17: 44
      Quote: rocket757
      “We don’t want to make a second mistake”: Erdogan criticized the idea of ​​admitting Finland and Sweden to NATO
      . Vengeful people, eastern sultans!!!
      Some will shed tears of a mouse, especially when the mouse decided that she was a super mouse!
      However ... there is a subject to bargain, the trump cards are on hand!

      And that's how it works for us.
      1. +1
        13 May 2022 17: 50
        Sultan, he is still cunning, he will not miss his own ... so options are possible, inside and out.
        1. +4
          13 May 2022 20: 25
          He is not only cunning, but also prudent ...
          1. +2
            13 May 2022 21: 15
            For the ruler, this is obligatory, in the reverse version, this is a disaster for the state.
            1. +3
              13 May 2022 21: 20
              That's the main thing he says about it openly ...
    2. +5
      13 May 2022 17: 57
      Quote: rocket757
      Vengeful people, eastern sultans!!!

      It was a shame for Erdogan. How much did Turkey ask for in the EU? 30 years old or more? And then one or two and run accept. Now let him block all sorts of new EU ideas in retaliation.
      1. +1
        13 May 2022 21: 17
        Resentment is like a reason to bite more painfully or bargain.
      2. man
        0
        13 May 2022 21: 41
        It was a shame for Erdogan. How much did Turkey ask for in the EU? 30 years old or more? And then one or two and run accept.
        But I remember how Europe simply begged us to join the EU. It's a pity that we proudly refused
    3. +4
      13 May 2022 20: 24
      Quote: rocket757

      However ... there is a subject to bargain, the trump cards are on hand!


      Yes, it is in this direction that he will build his plans and conduct a policy ...
      1. +3
        13 May 2022 21: 16
        So it will be...
        Even as a fellow traveler, difficult, unpleasant ...
        1. +5
          13 May 2022 21: 21
          But sometimes it can be useful to us, at some stage ...
          1. +3
            13 May 2022 21: 26
            When everything is mixed up in one big heap, politics, economics, strategic interEsy ... you have to be able to make such a compromise that, in the end, you won’t be in the span.
  4. 0
    13 May 2022 17: 43
    Well, they will enter, they will automatically fall under the sight of the Kaliningrad Iskanders. Maybe (most likely) with a nuclear warhead ....
    And why?!
  5. +3
    13 May 2022 17: 45
    The East is a delicate matter, without bargaining well, no matter how ....
  6. +3
    13 May 2022 17: 48
    NATO red line, from may to may, solid if accepted
    1. +2
      13 May 2022 17: 58
      if the Poles climb onto the ruin, this line can be easily torn along Suwalki.
      1. -1
        13 May 2022 23: 54
        Quote: Fisherman
        if the Poles climb onto the ruin, this line can be easily torn along Suwalki.

        Will you be in the front row? recourse
        1. 0
          14 May 2022 12: 08
          I will be ahead ... and I will meet you with dagger fire ... although ... you will not be there 100%
          1. -1
            15 May 2022 00: 02
            Quote: Fisherman
            I will be ahead ... and I will meet you with dagger fire ... although ... you will not be there 100%

            Oh well..
            Hero of the sofa troops.
            Throwing slogans on the net, this is not kneading dirt in the trenches.
            1. 0
              15 May 2022 22: 47
              and in dugouts for months, and through the mountains they banged savages .... and our generation will get to you, dill, if the Motherland orders!
  7. 0
    13 May 2022 17: 54
    Now the Americans and the Britons are promising Erdogan no sweet buns, and that's all, he agrees. But he still shows a little discontent. Will trade.
    1. +1
      13 May 2022 18: 57
      Quote: TatarinSSSR
      Now the Americans and the Britons are promising Erdogan no sweet buns, and that's all, he agrees. But he still shows a little discontent. Will trade.

      Buns are buns, but the East has never suffered from weak memory.
      They will choose the moment and pay for the goodies.
  8. +2
    13 May 2022 18: 00
    Calling it a mistake is one thing. And vote against...
  9. +7
    13 May 2022 18: 00
    Erdogan is right, of course .. This is a serious challenge to Russia and will have to respond to all this accordingly .. Place missiles in Cuba, is Russia being forced again or in Venezuela?
    This whole race will not lead to anything good, and if the United States hopes to survive overseas, then let them not hope .. Russia has long been ready for any development of events, but not for the surrender and return of the 90s!
    As one politician howled in Poland, "Russian World" is already an ideology and must be destroyed ..
    Naive jackal.. hi
    1. +2
      13 May 2022 18: 23
      If he didn’t give a damn about the challenge of Russia, he wouldn’t sell bayraktars to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    2. +2
      13 May 2022 19: 20
      "Erdogan is right of course .." It would be nice to implement such a "special scenario" - the admission of Finland and Sweden to NATO, contrary to Turkey's opinion ... to show the Turks that European NATO members spit on Asian Turks ...))) Maybe then Turkey would finally understand that they absolutely not on the way with the current NATO and would have left it ... A good combination would have come out: they would have accepted two dwarf states, and lost such a "monster" as Turkey ... The only question is whether Turkey has its own pride ?
      1. +4
        13 May 2022 20: 16
        Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
        to show the Turks that the European NATO members spit on the Asian Turks ...))) Mo

        And they spit on them, they don’t accept them in the EU, they humiliate them in every possible way ..
        Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
        Maybe then Turkey would finally understand that they are completely out of the way with the current NATO and would withdraw from its composition ... A good combination would come out: they would accept two dwarf states, but lose such a "monster" as Turkey ... Question only that - does Turkey have its own pride?

        Work in this direction has been underway for a long time .. Turkey and the United States have long been in conflict ..
        Especially after purchasing the S-400 and testing them on various US fighters (which they tried to get into their hands)))) Turkey also requested such systems from Russia ..
        They liked it !!! This is protection from the United States, but Erdogan has other goals, he wants to again spread his influence and restore Turan .. Well, well ..
        So let Bulgaria take it .. negativeRussia will no longer defend them .. But in the rest of the territories, let the Turks not open their mouths
  10. GNM
    +2
    13 May 2022 18: 06
    The Turkish president noted that the Scandinavian countries often give a hospitable welcome to representatives of terrorists and even allow them to speak in parliament, presumably referring to Kurdish organizations banned in Turkey, in particular, the Kurdistan Workers' Party.

    From the series: - I'm such a person, I don't remember evil, I have to write it down.

    1. +1
      13 May 2022 18: 23
      Cool post, and ukrotrols have already managed to slap two minuses,.
    2. +9
      13 May 2022 18: 51

      But before Teft, the Ukrainian general fell to his knee like a slave!
      1. +4
        13 May 2022 20: 27
        Quote: Good
        But before Teft, the Ukrainian general fell to his knee like a slave!

        Not the right word, it's all so disgusting ..

        Everything came true..
  11. +4
    13 May 2022 18: 14
    Quote: Mitroha

    How do they explain to the electorate why one of the peacefully coexisting neighbors will turn into targets?

    Nothing needs to be explained. The preparatory work had begun long before. In all the media in Finland and Sweden, hysteria about the Russian threat has been continuously pumped up for years, for example, the story that lasted for years about Russian submarines, which for some reason were constantly in Swedish waters. Ordinary moments that constantly happen on the borders of all states, for example, during aviation exercises, which are usually solved behind the scenes and are technical, were presented to the townsfolk as Russia's unprecedented aggressive steps (that they have the same thing as on the borders of other countries, of course, was not advertised ). Etc. Only d'fool could take the systematic and long duration of such propaganda as random misunderstandings, all this nonsense was aimed precisely at preparing the population for the rejection of neutrality, the effectiveness and reliability of which has been proven for decades, during which there have been many most serious crises between us and NATO .
    1. man
      +2
      13 May 2022 21: 06
      All nations are subject to propaganda
  12. +1
    13 May 2022 18: 53
    Before that there was an error in connection with Greece. We don't want to make another mistake
    DO NOT ADD, DO NOT REDUCE
  13. IVZ
    +1
    13 May 2022 19: 05
    Quote: Mitroha
    Interestingly, the Finns' main enemies of their people are the president and prime minister. How do they explain to the electorate why one of the peacefully coexisting neighbors will turn into targets?

    It is very true about the main enemies, and it seems that this applies to almost all pro-Amer elites.
  14. GNM
    +1
    13 May 2022 19: 08
    The Finns, unfortunately, (I often visited there in the late 70s) have already "integrated into Europe" to the very ...
    The title of "Miss Helsinki" went to a dark-skinned beauty
    https://ptzgovorit-ru.turbopages.org/ptzgovorit.ru/s/news/titul-miss-helsinki-dostalsya-temnokozhey-krasavice


    1. +1
      13 May 2022 22: 19
      For what? An ordinary Finnish black woman ... There are many of them.
  15. 0
    13 May 2022 19: 08
    "Let us remind you that the admission of new members to NATO occurs only with the unanimous approval of all members. But there is a possibility that in this case they may also be accepted" according to a special scenario "..." It would be nice to implement such a "special scenario" ... to show the Turks that the European NATO members spit on the Asian Turks ...))) Maybe then Turkey would finally understand that they are completely out of the way with the current NATO and would leave from its composition ... It would be a good combination: they would accept two dwarf states, and lose such a "monster" as Turkey ... The only question is - does Turkey have its own pride?
    1. +1
      13 May 2022 20: 46
      For Turkey to be part of NATO is protection from NATO countries. This is how it is perceived in Turkey. They can fight off the rest themselves
  16. +4
    13 May 2022 20: 22
    Recall that the admission of new members to NATO occurs only with the unanimous approval of all members. But there is a possibility that in this case they can accept "according to a special scenario" ...


    If they cannot accept, then you will not envy Erdogan ... lol
    1. +3
      13 May 2022 20: 58
      Quote: cniza
      Recall that the admission of new members to NATO occurs only with the unanimous approval of all members. But there is a possibility that in this case they can accept "according to a special scenario" ...


      If they cannot accept, then you will not envy Erdogan ... lol

      ha ha ha Greetings Victor!!! hi
      1. +3
        13 May 2022 21: 19
        Greetings! hi

        He is not a very stupid person and will play his game...
        1. +1
          14 May 2022 08: 22
          Quote: cniza
          Greetings! hi

          He is not a very stupid person and will play his game...

          Not stupid, but also a very cunning and treacherous politician
  17. +1
    13 May 2022 22: 03
    But Erdogan is not, he clearly does not want empty hotels in the upcoming vacation season ...
  18. +1
    13 May 2022 22: 31
    The cunning Erdik wants something to extort from mattresses for his consent))))
  19. +1
    14 May 2022 07: 39
    “We don’t want to make a second mistake”: Erdogan criticized the idea of ​​admitting Finland and Sweden to NATO

    He fills his own price, in the end he does not want to quarrel with the United States.
  20. 0
    14 May 2022 20: 54
    Erdogan is a good goose! Today he says one thing, tomorrow another, and the day after tomorrow a third ...