The first civilians were able to leave the cellars of the Azovstal plant in Mariupol

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Information is coming that today the first civilians used the humanitarian corridor provided by the RF Armed Forces and the NM of the DPR to leave the territory of the Azovstal plant in Mariupol. We are talking about a family that spent several weeks in one of the basements of a metallurgical plant. As it turns out, they were evacuated without any participation from the side of the special UN mission and the Red Cross, which is not starting its work in any way.

It is known that we are talking about three civilians - the Savin family: a spouse and their daughter.



They report that the Azov militants (* an extremist organization banned in the Russian Federation) did not say anything to those in the bunkers of the plant about the humanitarian corridors provided. Mikhail Savinykh reports that a few days ago he found a radio receiver in one of the premises of the plant, turned it on. Information about the opening of a humanitarian corridor was periodically transmitted there. After that, they decided to go out at their own risk. And this fear was due to the fact that the Azov militants * repeatedly intimidated that they could allegedly be shot by Russian troops, although it was the Azov themselves * who could have done it.

Azovstal, who came out of the dungeons, say that, according to their data, about 70 civilians remained in the bomb shelter at the enterprise.

It is reported that earlier representatives of the plant management turned to Ukrainian militants with a request to carry out the withdrawal of civilians. But all requests were rejected with the argument from the series "it's not safe." This can only be unsafe for the militants themselves, because they understand that, having lost a human shield of civilians, a sad fate awaits them if they do not lay down weapon and won't give up.
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    1. +60
      April 29 2022
      Be sure to check ALL who came out, you never know ...
      1. +16
        April 29 2022
        Quote from ARIONkrsk
        Be sure to check ALL who came out, you never know ...

        This is how much you need to be a stubborn Russophobe in order to hide from shelling in the industrial zone under the "protection" of the Nazis? Such civilians should be immediately deported to Canada.
        Although it is possible that the civilians were forced to "hide" at Azovstal under the threat of execution.
        1. +1
          April 29 2022
          Quote: Bearded
          Although it is possible that the civilians were forced to "hide" at Azovstal under the threat of execution.

          So they do it .. according to eyewitnesses .. they force it because terrorists and fascists.
          1. +34
            April 29 2022
            Be sure to check ALL who came out, you never know ...

            And so it happened..) The head of the family is an active fascist. A photo of him from social networks was found, where he poses and ziguet with a cross. Of course, both the daughter and the wife are not to blame, but they all carry the memorized mantra: "Azov people shoot everyone in the back, we found a receiver and ran .." And by the way, the child is somehow nervous, it looks like a strong fright and memorized words ..
            It's time to introduce SMERSH to the Donbass. Maybe the wife of this Azov is a sniper. And check whether their child is still by DNA! There were cases that parents were killed and children were covered, such as a family ..
            If such, to the wall only!
            1. +8
              April 29 2022
              Quote: krot
              And so it happened ..) The head of the family is an active fascist

              I think the wife needs to be tested. IMHO is also a combatant. Their faces are bad.
              1. +11
                April 29 2022
                Calculate the same wife. She turns out to be a sniper in their gang.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KriBJ522eKc
                1. +1
                  April 30 2022
                  Is there a video somewhere where you don't need a Google account?
                2. +5
                  April 30 2022
                  Output: Video is not available. This is a restricted video. sad
                  Even with acc.
                  But in general, below Andrey NM I have already given enough for understanding:
                  Quote: Andrew NM

                  Here is such a "peace" ...
                  1. 0
                    April 30 2022
                    We already figured out that these are two different women.
                  2. 0
                    April 30 2022
                    Output: Video is not available. This is a restricted video. sad
                    Even with acc.
                    But in general, below Andrey NM has already given enough for understanding:
                    Quote: Andrew NM
                    Subsequently, netizens began to publish photos of Mikhail with Hitler's iron crosses. However, he himself notes that the photos were taken in 2012 at the plant - "out of stupidity." His wife, again - users, was suspected of being related to the sniper case - on the grounds that she looks like a female sniper of the Ukrainian national formation. However, as it turned out, she had nothing to do with that sniper.
                3. -2
                  April 30 2022
                  Calculate the same wife. She turns out to be a sniper in their gang.
                  Why are you posting fakes?
            2. +6
              April 29 2022
              the wife of this Azov sniper

              who said wife?
            3. +2
              April 30 2022
              It is possible that the child may be a stranger, and these types of parents are from the Nazis,
            4. +2
              April 30 2022
              It hasn't been confirmed yet. We love "fried" news. And they are not fried.
              Good advice - DON'T HURRY!
        2. +1
          April 29 2022
          How much do you have to be a stubborn Russophobe to hide from shelling in the industrial zone under the "protection" of the Nazis?
          I understand. If people lived near the industrial zone, then this is logical. You will remember how the liberation of Mariupol took place. If there is no basement in the house, two ways. Either move further from the line of contact to the industrial zone, or make your way through the front line. If you remember, journalists worked there at great risk to their lives. If it is really peaceful and everyone in the family is still alive, I am very glad!
          1. +5
            April 29 2022
            if it is really peaceful and everyone in the family is still alive, I am very glad!

            They have already shown this "peaceful" daddy ..
          2. +16
            April 29 2022
            Disappointing, clients of the MGB. We are not joking.
            More precisely, jokes aside. Well done specialists from the MGB.
            1. +7
              April 29 2022
              Didn't disappoint! I'm very glad it got busted! And I hope that in the future all those involved will be detained and severely punished!
              1. +2
                April 29 2022
                Mom on a sniper suspicion, they will split!
            2. +5
              April 30 2022
              Quote: tralflot1832
              More precisely, jokes aside. Well done specialists from the MGB.

              Of course, well done that they calculated these "reptiles".
              Mikhail Savinykh reports that a few days ago he found a radio receiver in one of the premises of the plant, turned it on.
              Immediately miscalculated - lie. In what room of the destroyed factory did he find this receiver - moreover, a whole one, with carrying batteries, or was he able to connect it to the network, where did he get this network? You can immediately see how everything is sewn with white threads ...
        3. +3
          April 29 2022
          Quote: Bearded
          ... you have to be a stoned Russophobe ...

          Not only! or just a frightened woman with children ... I just observe it in public - neighbors, acquaintances ... When only from sources of information coming out-TV, and every day a siren yells several times, and "thumps somewhere" .. so they run to the bomb shelter .. all the more they feed (feed) .. But when "time H" comes, they are just from there won't be released! Here is the finished "human shield" of the "volunteers"! As in the old joke - "voluntarily and with a song!" (with)
          And they are just timid inert people .... and most of them (unfortunately)
        4. +4
          April 29 2022
          Check and how. Maybe they are peaceful, but my uncle is already glowing.


          1. +6
            April 29 2022
            Fine! Internet help! And you don’t have to look for a long time, everyone took a picture of the article for themselves))) They simplify the work of our specialists!
          2. 0
            April 29 2022
            Check and how. Maybe they are peaceful, but my uncle is already glowing.

            well, send this photo, I remember the bowl that there are channels for communication with the People's Militia of the DPR, so that they would be given information.
      2. +14
        April 29 2022
        As it turns out, they were evacuated without any participation from the side of the special UN mission and the Red Cross, which is not starting its work in any way.
        That is great! The rest will come out. Let the Red Cross curtail its activities that have not begun!
      3. +1
        April 29 2022
        The most important thing is that they first release civilians, women and children. And the rest hard filtering. And it would be nice to put loudspeakers and notify so that you can hear.
        1. +4
          April 29 2022
          Quote: leonidych
          The most important thing is that they first release civilians, women and children.

          I’m not sure about this, the sadyuga cannot spare civilians, they will hide behind them to the last, and only when they realize that there is no way out, but only captivity, then they can let go.
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        2. +22
          April 29 2022
          Women can be worse than men.
          1. +7
            April 29 2022
            Savchenko will not let you lie... wink
      4. +9
        April 29 2022
        we are talking about three civilians - the Savin family: spouses and their daughter

        Here are the photos to post.
        To compare them with those happy healthy faces of children who were filmed in Lviv under the guise of "Mariupol inmates"
        1. +25
          April 29 2022
          It was just at Golovanov's Time, military commander Dmitry Steshin


          On the "exhausted" look weak. But I think whoever follows will figure it out.
          1. +2
            April 29 2022
            Quote: Napayz
            On the "exhausted" look weak.

            At least those faces aren't tanned.
          2. +8
            April 29 2022
            Quote: Napayz
            On the "exhausted" look weak.

            They don't look alike at all. No fear, no joy. Tense waiting.
            Ours have already written that dill breaks through in a new form.
            And the hard workers walk around in well-worn overalls. These are strange. IMHO.
            1. +5
              April 29 2022
              And here is the clarification...
              https://t.me/rybar/31938
              https://vk.com/id158655807?z=albums158655807


              He may not be, but he is.
              1. +1
                April 29 2022
                Below is a steelworker, rather an old photo - steelworkers have not worn such a cloth jacket for a long time.
          3. +4
            April 29 2022
            There is already a photo of this zigzagging "peace" in all its glory with crosses and other paraphernalia ...
            1. +18
              April 29 2022

              Here is such a "peace" ...
              1. +1
                April 29 2022
                well, send it at least to the telegram channel of the People's Police of the DPR
                1. +1
                  April 30 2022
                  I think they already know! drinks
                  1. 0
                    April 30 2022
                    but you send it anyway, otherwise everyone thinks so
              2. -1
                April 29 2022
                Here is such a "peace" ..

                yes, and don’t show that you found it through Google photos - they will cut through and cover up this possibility.
              3. +1
                April 30 2022
                In general, the woman sat on her steam locomotive! good
          4. +5
            April 29 2022
            who should, will understand.

            is not a fact,
            but generally curious. the dude is also shaved and not overgrown. that is, they DO NOT save water there, and he had a razor. I would like to hope. that none of them "forgot" or "lost" their phones.
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      6. +27
        April 29 2022
        I agree. The version with a radio receiver is weak: concrete and depth + get on the frequency, it is unlikely that broadcasting is carried out in the FM band.
        1. +2
          April 29 2022
          Quote from kwwk
          I agree. The version with a radio receiver is weak: concrete and depth + get on the frequency, it is unlikely that broadcasting is carried out in the FM band.

          Oga, Gorbachevsky "VEF" listened bully
          1. +14
            April 29 2022
            In my opinion, there is no work clothes on the child. Do they work with the whole family? Do they go home in working uniform? It seems to me that this is a trial balloon. It is not known what game the Nazis will start next. This movement began after the bombardment from the air, when the floor slab in the basement fell and the rats lost electricity.
            1. 0
              April 29 2022
              It seems to me that this is a trial balloon.
              why trial? somehow they do not look like a family, and the child behaves very strangely.
      7. +14
        April 29 2022
        Quote from ARIONkrsk
        Be sure to check ALL who came out, you never know ...

        There was information that many employees and workers of Azovstal joined the ranks of the so-called. organization "battalion Azov" (banned in Russia). They were paid a decent sum of money for this. That is why the Bandera offspring are so well versed in these underground labyrinths. They were taught and accompanied by these very "workers" of Azovstal.
        Oh, we'll learn a lot of interesting things when we're done with them.
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          1. +7
            April 29 2022
            Well, if you look objectively: the pugs are not at all thin (even if they ate norms, no one canceled the nervous tension), overalls straight from the warehouse, as if they had just put them on (not even really crumpled and clean), well, a super mega receiver (we have that in the metro does not catch everywhere).
      8. +9
        April 29 2022
        I slept already according to old photos, Banderlog.
      9. +2
        April 29 2022
        a few days ago he found a radio receiver in one of the premises of the plant

        especially bearing frank nonsense. for several weeks now, they have been working hard in Azovstal, so no one is "rummaging" around the territory there. and where does the electricity come from or did he find a receiver with batteries? fantastic. And I wonder where he put his phone, now almost EVERY phone has a radio.
        1. +1
          April 29 2022
          Quote from kirosi
          And I wonder where he put his phone, now almost EVERY phone has a radio.

          The phone only FM. It is unlikely that it broadcasts in Mariupol.
    2. +23
      April 29 2022
      Unpleasant information, it means there is a peacekeeper, although you will have to check the family, suddenly dad and mom are ideological and probe the path.
      1. +3
        April 29 2022
        Quote: Murmur 55
        it means there is a peacekeeper, although you will have to check the family, suddenly dad and mom are ideological and probe the path.

        This is unconditional, but it won’t prevent them from talking with the "UN mission"? So let everyone tell the Red Cross and Crescent.
        1. +1
          April 29 2022
          Egoza hi, I agree, no one will forbid it, only if it is really a peaceful family and they don’t want to leave for the Kyiv side later, our people don’t seem to forbid it, you never know.
          1. +4
            April 29 2022
            Quote: Murmur 55
            no one will forbid it, only if it is a really peaceful family and they don’t want to leave for the Kyiv side later, our people don’t seem to forbid it, you never know.

            So, you need to POLITELY ask to stay! )))
          2. +3
            April 29 2022
            Quote: Murmur 55
            Egoza, I agree, no one will ban it, only if it is really a peaceful family and they don’t want to leave for the Kyiv side later, our people don’t seem to ban it, you never know.

            If they are from Mariupol, then they will stay there, and where could there be people from another area. Well, the locals are easy to check.
            1. +1
              April 29 2022
              tihonmarine hi, and if there are only ruins from the house and relatives only on the Kyiv side, well, now do not let them go and keep them by force (this is, of course, if dad and mom are not banned).
              1. 0
                April 29 2022
                Quote: Murmur 55
                and if there are only ruins from the house and relatives only on the Kyiv side, well, now do not let go and keep by force

                Check and release, no problem. How many of them who walked along the corridors and left for Russia, and then moved to Europe, I see them almost every day.
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        2. +12
          April 29 2022
          "... it won't prevent them from talking to the "UN mission"?" And why should they communicate with the UN mission and the Red Cross? The radio receiver is in the dungeon under a 4-meter layer of concrete ... and it receives ... it’s hard to believe. And for some reason, none of the Ukronazis, and there are more than a thousand of them, knows about this radio... And how did this family get through the Ukronazi patrols?! What is this fairy tale? after all, if one family came out without obstacles, then it would be possible to immediately follow their trail into the dungeon for the special forces and bring out the rest ... what's the problem ... something muddy some kind of story ... immediately arouses distrust. Someone somewhere is lying
          1. +2
            April 29 2022
            Quote: Sergey Kuzmin
            And why should they communicate with the UN mission and the Red Cross?

            To act as witnesses that they were not told about the humanitarian corridors. Yes, let them give information about the rest.
          2. +1
            April 29 2022
            There is nothing complicated about working smartphones underground, a simple repeater is installed - and there is a signal in the basement. And almost all smartphones now have a radio, and very often wired headphones serve as an antenna for such a radio. I think that if they leak videos and communicate with the outside world, then that's it. They will not climb outside to transfer data.
        3. 0
          April 29 2022
          So let the UN mission and the Red Crescent take a walk through the dungeons, talk.
      2. +3
        April 29 2022
        Lie detector test?
        1. +2
          April 29 2022
          "Check on a lie detector?" unequivocally - to check and check comprehensively. Let them first be identified - are they really who they say they are? and why, following their trail - as they left - did not immediately follow the others? The peasant could be sent there in all sorts of ways to bring out the rest. Why did they set up a ringing instead of quietly taking everyone out? Maybe it's just that someone needs to believe that there are civilians in the dungeon?
        2. +1
          April 29 2022
          A soldering iron will work too.
      3. +7
        April 29 2022
        And if they were not ideological, why would they sit in the basements with children for so long? Apparently it's stuck. The stomach won the idea.
      4. -24
        April 29 2022
        And recently, the same Basurin assured that there was no peacekeeper at Azovstal, that this was the rut of Ukraine - now there have been confirmations that they crap with intelligence.
        1. +9
          April 29 2022
          No one could claim this, and Stirlitz cannot be there! If you have stomach problems, look for fellow sufferers elsewhere!
          1. -6
            April 29 2022
            However, the same Basurin said in all seriousness that there was no civilian at Azovstal, and thus admonished ours - everything is fine, bomb the plant and don’t tell me that this didn’t happen. And I have no problems - you have problems with memory.
        2. +3
          April 29 2022
          and who said that they are "peaceful" (with the exception of a child)?
      5. +5
        April 29 2022
        Yeah, the story is strange to say the least - "found" the receiver. Artillery has been working powerfully on the territory of Azovstal for quite a long time - you can’t “rummage around”. Even now, every telephone has a radio, and without electricity, the receiver will not work. Here in the telegram of Alexander Kots, the staff correspondent of the Komsomolskaya Pravda, there is a copy of the militant's diary from there. they were doing a lot of looting there. This time. The "daughter" does not look like the "swarmers" and does not say a word (!) By the way, they could "borrow" the child, and the parents remained hostage with the Nazis.
        That's interesting, PHONES WITH THEM? And if not, HOW IS IT EXPLAINED? Now NOBODY walks without a phone. And it's easy to pick up info from your phone, even if it's been erased.
    3. +4
      April 29 2022
      Is there still a "factory management" ???
      1. +3
        April 29 2022
        Quote: samarin1969
        Is there still a "factory management" ???


        There is always guidance. Even if you are in charge of yourself.
        Purely philosophical.
      2. +4
        April 29 2022
        I know that the top of the plant shattered two days before February 24th.
    4. -3
      April 29 2022
      ,,, all the same, there are civilians there, how did they get there. ?sad
      1. -2
        April 29 2022
        Quote: bubalik
        ,,, all the same, there are civilians there, how did they get there. ?sad

        Perhaps they were dragged by force.
        1. -3
          April 29 2022
          Yes. They dragged him by force, dressed him in new clothes by force, and released him by force. Are you delusional?
          1. 0
            April 30 2022
            Quote: Skif
            Are you raving?

            And without rudeness is impossible? I just made my guess. Cases of violent hostage-taking are, of course, unknown to you.
        2. Egg
          0
          April 30 2022
          Quote: Piramidon
          Perhaps they were dragged by force.

          most likely these are families of militants, the same stubborn or general participants, like this woman - a sniper, there are no civilians there, an apple does not roll far from an apple tree.
          and this trial exit, the fairy tale will work / not work, it didn’t work ... although if the UNovka had met them, it could have worked, and they would have raised a squeal about the “atrocities” of the Russians.
          And you also need to check if this is their child.
      2. +9
        April 29 2022
        Quote: bubalik
        all the same, there are civilians there, how did they get there. ?

        They said, including Konashenko, that they were driven there, promising that it was "the safest place in Mariupol." Having previously frightened them with the "horrors of Russian aggression."
        But it is necessary to check EVERYONE, and even this one, bearded, their main one, will mow down under the "peace".

        It was easier for us in Afghanistan - they saw the enemy in everyone, because during the day they were "tsaranda", and at night they shot us in the back. Distinguished by the callus on the finger and the smell of clothes - from the "spirits" the fire always smelled. I didn’t sit by the fires in the mountains with a tsaranda, there were no calluses on my finger, because a little shooting - they ran away.
        I hope our boys in Ukraine will cope.
        1. +10
          April 29 2022
          Zoldat_A hi, now almost everyone has tactical gloves on their hands, the callus disappears, the smell of a fire there in the underground from many can fall with smoke, but the characteristic titmouse in the area of ​​​​the collarbone, the smell of gunpowder burning, the right shoulder is lower than the left, the tattoos are characteristic, shorter than all older than 18 (without corrections for the floor) on the TV set.
          1. +1
            April 30 2022
            Quote: Murmur 55
            characteristic titmouse in the region of the collarbone, a smell of gunpowder burning, the right shoulder is lower than the left, characteristic tattoos, the shortest of all older than 18 (without adjustment for sex) on the bodyguard.

            That's pretty much what I'm thinking right now.
            Only there, in Afghanistan, it had its own specifics. There were no tactical gloves. Even with us, not to mention the "spirits".

            That's why I say it was easier.
        2. +5
          April 29 2022
          During the production of shots, gases carrying the products of the shot exit not only through the barrel, but also seep through other interacting parts of the weapon: the bolt and receiver, the casing-bolt and frame, etc. As a result, components of the initiating agent are deposited on the hand in which the weapon was located composition and combustion products of gunpowder. When firing from a carbine, machine gun, the products of the shot are also deposited on the cheek of the shooter. To obtain traces on the shooter, warm molten paraffin is used, which covers the hands, the face of the person being checked. Washing with a solution of distilled water is also possible. The obtained samples are examined by optical, electron microscopes, samples for diphenylamine in concentrated sulfuric acid, the use of neutron activation analysis, etc.
          1. +2
            April 29 2022
            and if so?

            and what calluses, bruises, traces of gunpowder
            1. +3
              April 30 2022
              Quote from kirosi
              and what calluses, bruises, traces of gunpowder

              Sniff the right sleeve. I assure you, for example, I can distinguish the smell of gunpowder from the smell of barbecue. Moreover, he didn’t smoke then, he went in for sports, his scent was sharper. And the "spirits" walked not in camouflage, but in camisas. And very often it was their only clothing - "to the feast, and to the world, and to good people." So the smell from the right sleeve was stable.
              1. 0
                April 30 2022
                yeah, these people in the photo are in overalls, obviously from a warehouse (the presence of a warehouse with overalls is normal for an enterprise), that is, they changed clothes. This is the first case - a lot of shots with abandoned camouflage.
                naturally, those who disguise themselves as civilians WILL CHANGE
            2. 0
              April 30 2022
              Such lumps are given to us at work. They cost 1200r. laughing Funny photo, militant. Explicit posing.
          2. +1
            April 30 2022
            Quote: sailor Roman
            During the production of shots, gases carrying the products of the shot exit not only through the barrel, but also seep through other interacting parts of the weapon: the bolt and receiver, the casing-bolt and frame, etc. As a result, components of the initiating agent are deposited on the hand in which the weapon was located composition and combustion products of gunpowder. When firing from a carbine, machine gun, the products of the shot are also deposited on the cheek of the shooter. To obtain traces on the shooter, warm molten paraffin is used, which covers the hands, the face of the person being checked. Washing with a solution of distilled water is also possible. The obtained samples are examined by optical, electron microscopes, samples for diphenylamine in concentrated sulfuric acid, the use of neutron activation analysis, etc.

            And somehow simpler, in field-combat conditions, is it possible?
    5. -1
      April 29 2022
      However, there are some questions. I'll wait for the video confirmation of the release, the health of the former hostages.
    6. GNM
      -1
      April 29 2022
      It should be written: Three hostages managed to escape.
      In general, why don't loudspeakers from drones work? They seemed to be working at the fence, I saw it.
    7. +8
      April 29 2022
      And this Savin's radio receiver under the covers probably listened so that no one would see.
    8. 0
      April 29 2022
      This is all BSK (bullshit).
      And immediately replicated. And then they shout that the information war is lost.
      Who is losing? (names-passwords-appearances)
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        2. +5
          April 29 2022
          And you need to act like the SGA and Israel - we don’t care, and all the sentiments are on our side, and we didn’t need to either not take it or not set aside, but this, obviously, is not taught in the GS academies today.
    9. +2
      April 29 2022
      Check everyone thoroughly so that they do not dishonor the surname of my family. It is somewhat different, our surname is somewhat shorter. If they are not 100% involved in anything, understand and let go. The head of the family had a panic, maybe he worked for Azovstal. in this way to save the family.
      1. +2
        April 29 2022
        Who did he work in such a clean robe?
    10. +12
      April 29 2022
      I mean the first!?
      And how did they live, what did they eat, bathe, and in the end go to the toilet?
      Sitting in the basement... The first questions that attend.
      How many more inmates are there?
      70 people. Why didn't they come out together with the first?!.
      I also have some bomb shelters at the plant. You don't get much there.
      For a hundred years there has been no light, no water, nothing at all.
      In addition, they are semi-flooded with groundwater. The plant was operated by Ukraine. I don't think the situation is better there. hi
      1. -2
        April 29 2022
        Given that this is a well-equipped anti-nuclear bomb shelter, there is a toilet, water, electricity, ventilation, filtration systems, communications, drinking water and food, and most likely even a shower.
        1. +5
          April 29 2022
          It should be according to GOST,
          But we live in the modern world!
          What the hell are systems? Who will spend money on such nonsense?
          Absolutely no one cares about such trifles. And even in Russia.
          There, of course, there is no GOST, I exaggerate this.
          Besides, why are there really fierce anti-nuclear shelters at the steel plant? Where is the steel / cast iron poured after the impact?
          Everything is carried to a vigorous hair dryer.
          1. +3
            April 29 2022
            For the same reason that the subway is supposed to be used as a refuge. The plant is a small town, shelter underfoot.
            1. +2
              April 29 2022
              The condition of shelters in factories - read the paragraph above.
          2. 0
            April 29 2022
            If that was still built in the USSR, it’s somehow sideways here “But we live in the modern world! ..
            What the hell are systems? Who would spend money on such nonsense?"
      2. +2
        April 29 2022
        Quote: Petrol cutter
        The plant was operated by Ukraine. I don't think the situation is better there.

        Ukrtv showed interviews with the leadership of Azovstal. There they showed 4 bomb shelters on the map, and announced that they had been recently renovated. hi
        1. +2
          April 29 2022
          Management will tell you whatever you want.
          For example, our management does not write that the plant does not pay me wages and vacation pay. Because it makes no sense for him to write this ....
          1. +1
            April 29 2022
            Quote: Petrol cutter
            Management will tell you whatever you want.

            If the farm is large, there should be an engineer for civil defense and emergency situations, find and talk. hi
          2. +2
            April 29 2022
            Quote: Petrol cutter
            For example, our management does not write that the plant does not pay me wages and vacation pay. Because it makes no sense for him to write this ....

            But it makes sense for you to write to the Prosecutor's Office. hi And here you just need to find technicians involved in bomb shelters, builders, electricians responsible for the fire hazard, for civil defense and emergencies. hi
          3. 0
            April 29 2022
            Quote: Petrol cutter
            For example, our management does not write that the plant does not pay me wages and vacation pay. Because it makes no sense for him to write this ....

            And here recently there was an article that they pay well in the Kerch Gulf.
            1. 0
              April 30 2022
              Okay, how much is that?
              I have a fifth-class welder who is getting back to our brigade. After six months in Kerch. Since the pay of eight thousand rubles is much less than at least sometimes flesh with us.
              Do not read current newspapers. You won't find the truth... hi
              1. 0
                April 30 2022
                Quote: Petrol cutter
                Okay, how much is that?

                50-80 thousand, as far as I remember.
                1. 0
                  1 May 2022
                  You will meet such salaries only in elite brigades
                  Where no one will let us in.
                  1. +1
                    1 May 2022
                    Quote: Petrol cutter
                    You will meet such salaries only in elite brigades
                    Where no one will let us in.

                    And what am I? The article was here about a week ago. I was also happy for you, well, I think, even though the Gas Cutter was lucky, they began to pay normally.
                    1. 0
                      2 May 2022
                      Stopped paying altogether. What kind of patriotic moods can attend here?! .. request
                      That they didn’t pay under Ukrainians, that under the current government.
                      What is the difference then?
                      Peaceful sky? It has ceased to be peaceful.
                      Air defense - something endlessly knocks down.
                      It is quite possible that in three minutes a bomb will fly into my roof. Or "Point" which will put an end to my writings here.
    11. +9
      April 29 2022
      in any case, there are civilians at the plant who helped the dungeon workers in terms of orientation at the plant - where is which basement, where is which passage, and so on. These were the ideological Bandera most likely. They could also move their families there under the protection of their employers from manure. They wrote that Akhmetov paid manure for the roof of his enterprises in Marik and the middle management of the plant were all under the hood or sympathetic to Bandera. Top managers with families, of course, do not sit in basements there.
      There are too many questions about the photo. A man with a three-day stubble (where and when did he shave in the basement?), The woman and daughter are clean, and so on ... I hope our counterintelligence officers are vigilant
    12. +7
      April 29 2022
      First, immediately to the right. After shooting at checkpoints, not a single Mariupol resident will climb into the APU, and even into manure ... Drive 99 percent of Lipa
    13. +10
      April 29 2022
      This is unbelievable!!!!!! Who fed them? What did you charge the radio with? And why only now came out and while the rest are NOT ???? Some questions. Although this is blasphemy, it is necessary to bring the child to a conversation in the theme of the game and calmly, they can unobtrusively say from the heart.
      1. +10
        April 29 2022
        Quote: Olesyai Lesya
        This is unbelievable!!!!!! Who fed them? What did you charge the radio with? And why only now came out and while the rest are NOT ???? Some questions. Although this is blasphemy, it is necessary to bring the child to a conversation in the theme of the game and calmly, they can unobtrusively say from the heart.

        Something tells me that mommy's past needs to be checked more carefully.
        1. +7
          April 29 2022
          Quote: Clear
          Something tells me that mommy's past needs to be checked more carefully.

          Until they checked the folder. There are some interesting photos. Looks like a banderlog family. hi
          1. +1
            April 29 2022
            Quote: fif21
            Quote: Clear
            Something tells me that mommy's past needs to be checked more carefully.

            Until they checked the folder. There are some interesting photos. Looks like a banderlog family. hi

            So the investigators will work with the operas.
            Do you have links to photos?
            hi
    14. +1
      April 29 2022
      The first civilians were able to leave the cellars of the Azovstal plant in Mariupol
      . How difficult, how stressful!
      Boom to look further.
    15. +10
      April 29 2022
      I walked around the workshops of the plant and found a radio receiver ...
      In the same place, the entire territory of the Armed Forces of Ukraine controlled, without their consent it would not have been possible to walk around the shops, they would have shot, which means that I was in their ranks.
      They were dressed strangely, as if they found overalls in the workshops and changed.
      Most likely, this is a messenger, they cannot be released from isolation for several months until the purge at Azovstal is completed, otherwise they will run to the Armed Forces of Ukraine to report some information.
      1. +4
        April 29 2022
        “The messenger is most likely, they cannot be released from isolation for several months until the cleansing at Azovstal is completed, otherwise they will run to the Armed Forces of Ukraine to report some information.” That's right, Divanych, to the point! Most likely, they have already - reported for him - with these "sensational" publications about their exit ... Here it would be necessary to quietly: find out the cherished path along which they went ... if there were no ambush there, others could be withdraw ... but ... instead, the chime was raised ... so joyful, joyful ... without taking into account the operational situation ... is there something - there are no sensible operas to unwind it according to the above scheme?
        1. +2
          April 29 2022
          It is well said about the path, such information is now very important. And if this man walked around the shops, he clearly knows where the APU bunker is.
      2. +1
        April 29 2022
        There are plenty of overalls in the shower lockers. Opening the closet is not difficult.
        1. +6
          April 29 2022
          Excuse me, did you work in production? Figs you will find unworn overalls, especially in the shower / locker rooms. Only in the warehouse at the tailor, and even there 50/50.
          1. 0
            April 30 2022
            Yes... 34 years in metallurgy. By the way, workwear warehouses are also on the territory of the plant. Usually before each workshop had its own warehouse. And not heavily worn overalls, as a rule, for management and engineers.
        2. +3
          April 29 2022
          Well, yes. These are clean (this is after work), not worn. Definitely creatures!
    16. +6
      April 29 2022
      Well, yes, such receivers are lying around everywhere in ruins and with batteries and tuned to the desired wave.
      But there are no families of militants? ... like the military.
      It is enough to be ideological and help the Nazis. It's like partners in crime.
    17. +6
      April 29 2022
      appealed to the Ukrainian militants with a request to carry out the withdrawal of civilians.

      they are playing for time, waiting for the bruises and calluses to come off, wash off to change clothes and appear as victims of the Azov hostages, they will mow under the peace
    18. +1
      April 29 2022
      Quote from kwwk
      I agree. The version with a radio receiver is weak: concrete and depth + get on the frequency, it is unlikely that broadcasting is carried out in the FM band.

      FM has nothing to do with it
      Vesti FM broadcasts were broadcast at a frequency of 1413 kHz (wavelength 213 meters), power 500 kW from Grigoriopol (PMR), until its destruction a few days ago
      and were heard almost throughout the territory of Ukraine
    19. +2
      April 29 2022
      It seems to me that there are categories of militants that cannot be verified a priori. And of course they will come out first. There are specialists in psychological warfare, in tactics. Even children are attracted. So how do you check them? And what to do with it?
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    21. +6
      April 29 2022
      this civilian has already been replicated on all social networks, like a Nazi since 2012
    22. +2
      April 29 2022
      And the receivers are scattered everywhere, there are only receivers everywhere.
    23. 0
      April 29 2022
      Quote: Clear

      There was information that many employees and workers of Azovstal joined the ranks of the so-called. organization "battalion Azov" (banned in Russia). They were paid a decent sum of money for this. That is why the Bandera offspring are so well versed in these underground labyrinths. They were taught and accompanied by these very "workers" of Azovstal.
      Oh, we'll learn a lot of interesting things when we're done with them.

      In eight years, any ram would have learned to navigate there.
    24. +3
      April 29 2022
      It looks like a movie stop
    25. +2
      April 29 2022
      "The first civilians used the humanitarian corridor provided by the RF Armed Forces and the NM of the DPR to leave the territory of the Azovstal plant in Mariupol." That's why I think that the missions of the UN and the Red Cross are furious about this news.
    26. +3
      April 29 2022
      And here are the interviews. The "mother" has a sly look, the "dad" is trying to keep silent about something.
      https://t.me/kirstar_official/17976
      1. 0
        April 29 2022
        In my opinion, the girl flashed in the video, which was unanimously called staged here. Although I could be wrong.
    27. +2
      April 29 2022
      "found a radio receiver" ... to estimate, are there a lot of them lying around? something is wrong here, in this fairy tale. Who are the "Savins" and are they Savins?
      1. +1
        April 29 2022
        Yeah ... and listened to "Vesti FM"
        I wonder how they know about the shots in the back?
    28. +7
      April 29 2022
      Well, everything was revealed))) In the cart there is already a photo of this man, the "father of the family", zigzagging and with a swastika))) There is already a video where he hangs out with dung, laughs ...
      our counterintelligence works clearly
      1. +6
        April 29 2022
        the woman also seems to have been figured out from old photos - a sniper. Elena Belozerskaya, right sector. I looked at her old photos - very similar
        Apparently they were allowed to test - it will roll or not. Didn't roll)))
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          1. +4
            April 29 2022
            here she is still young - probably the year 2014-2015. Now she looks older in the photo. But in any case, I don’t envy her, there will be a special conversation with the Ukrainian snipers ...
        2. +4
          April 29 2022
          Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
          т

          Did you accidentally take someone else's child?
          1. +5
            April 29 2022
            most likely someone else's. Apparently they were allowed in for a test - suddenly the Russians will let them through and then the rest will go through the UN
    29. +4
      April 29 2022
      along the way, all this fuss with the UN and Guteeris was for one thing. They wanted to dress all Ukronazis in the form of factory workers and try to evacuate them under the guise of civilians and hard workers.
    30. +2
      April 29 2022
      I don't believe, I don't believe.
    31. +5
      April 29 2022
      Am I the only one who has the feeling that our brother is being fooled?
      The baby is still the same.
    32. +1
      April 29 2022
      Lie. Stupidly lie, bastards.
    33. +2
      April 29 2022
      And these overalls are clean. And the rebecca generally behaves in a strange way.
    34. +3
      April 29 2022
      Immediately wrote that it is a linden. Well. I hope that at least the child is one of them, although knowing these creatures, his parents were most likely killed, and the child was taken with him ...
    35. +2
      April 29 2022
      This is some kind of setup and provocation.
      Where did he turn on the radio? Or did he find fresh batteries in the same place? And what will he catch in a concrete factory basement on this receiver?
      And what warehouse gave them brand new overalls?
      It looks like the Azov people are trying to convince everyone that there are civilians at the plant besides them.
      I suspect that there are definitely no living civilians there. And those that came out are disguised militants.
      And the Azov people are trying to buy time. So they are waiting for a rescue expedition.
      1. -2
        April 30 2022
        Quote: Common sense
        I suspect that there are definitely no living civilians there. And those that came out are disguised militants.

        Is the girl a fighter too?
        1. -1
          April 30 2022
          Shut up and disappear. Don't dishonor the nation.
          1. 0
            April 30 2022
            Quote: Penzyak
            Shut up and disappear. Don't dishonor the nation.

            Answer the question, or disappear and die yourself.
    36. 0
      April 30 2022
      Photos of this "family" are already walking around the Internet, a fascist and a sniper. As for me, I would hang them in Mariupol after a short trial. And now, again, merciful schizophrenics will save their lives in our country, and they will also provide a normal attitude.
      1. +1
        April 30 2022
        Yes, do not temperature, they will figure it out! We still need to drip Belomorkanal 2! So the hands will come in handy!
    37. Two
      0
      April 30 2022
      If they let you go, you can pay off along the way, anything can happen in a war zone, neither a Nazi nor a sniper.
    38. 0
      April 30 2022
      Dubious topic! Split into two!
    39. +1
      April 30 2022
      It turned out that the Savin family is not the Savin family. The woman is a neo-Nazi sniper Belozerskaya, and the man is a neo-Nazi whose photo was lit up on the net, where he poses in a Nazi salute. So if they let them go, I will interpret it as support for Nazism from Russia.
    40. 0
      April 30 2022
      Ukrainian neo-Nazi sniper Belozerska
    41. 0
      April 30 2022
      I am very pleased that these creatures were quickly identified. Thank you!
    42. +1
      April 30 2022
      The first civilians were able to leave the cellars of the Azovstal plant in Mariupol

      And why did they come there? It may well be a Nazi and his family. Everyone needs to be checked.
    43. 0
      April 30 2022
      earlier representatives of the plant management Well, what kind of plant management. What kind of nonsense.
    44. 0
      April 30 2022
      Quote: Mordvin 3
      Is the girl a fighter too?

      Do you know how many Soviet tanks were burned by the "kids" from the Hitler Youth?
      1. 0
        April 30 2022
        Quote: Seeker
        Do you know how many Soviet tanks were burned by the "kids" from the Hitler Youth?

        I don't have such statistics.
    45. 0
      April 30 2022
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      Quote: Common sense
      I suspect that there are definitely no living civilians there. And those that came out are disguised militants.

      Is the girl a fighter too?

      Do militants not have children? By the way, the girl is somehow not very similar to the "parents"?
      1. 0
        April 30 2022
        Quote: Common sense
        Do militants not have children?

        It happens, yes.
        Quote: Common sense
        By the way, the girl is somehow not very similar to the "parents"?

        She, no?
    46. 0
      April 30 2022
      Quote: mordvin xnumx
      Quote: Common sense
      Do militants not have children?

      It happens, yes.
      Quote: Common sense
      By the way, the girl is somehow not very similar to the "parents"?

      She, no?


      It doesn't look like the clothes are the same. I don’t think they have a whole warehouse with children’s things there.
    47. 0
      1 May 2022
      I don’t understand why this misinformation is replicated from every iron?

      The head of the family turned out to be a Ukrainian Nazi - photos with Nazi symbols on his chest were found in his social networks: insignia of Nazi Germany during the Second World War, in particular the Wehrmacht and the Luftwaffe. In addition, in one of the photographs, a man shows the so-called "Nazi salute."

      A woman easily googles for the query "Sniper Ukraine" - her photo in the search comes out first.
    48. 0
      1 May 2022
      What are civilians? After all, all ears buzzed that there were no civilians and children there. That this is all fake. Who's lying then?

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