Unrealizable potential: British Brimstone missiles for the Ukrainian army

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Brimstone rocket one of the latest modifications


The British Ministry of Defense is going to transfer Brimstone guided missiles to Ukraine. In the near future, they plan to carry out all the necessary procedures, and in the first days of May, the missiles will go to the recipient. It is curious that the issue of the supply of such weapons was discussed earlier, but this did not produce any results. Now, apparently, the situation is changing, and Ukraine will be able to get the long-awaited missiles.



Agreements and plans


Back in October 2020, the military departments of Great Britain and Ukraine signed a memorandum on the development of cooperation in the military-technical sphere.
In June 2021, a similar document appeared with the signatures of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, the British government and the British group of companies Babcock International. According to these agreements, the British side was to provide Kyiv with a loan and use these funds to build the combat boats it needed.

In October last year, some details of the deal appeared in the British media. It was reported that the parties are negotiating and plan to conclude an additional contract for the supply of MBDA Brimstone guided missiles in aviation and ship versions. However, the negotiations dragged on, and the contract has not yet been signed.

Recently, the topic of Brimstone missiles for Ukraine has again become relevant. On April 19, Prime Minister Boris Johnson said that the British side was studying the possibility of transferring such weapons. In addition, possible ways of its deployment and application with different platforms are considered. At the same time, the Prime Minister did not provide specific data.


Regular holder with missiles

A few days later, on April 25, British Defense Minister Ben Wallace spoke in Parliament and confirmed the information from B. Johnson. The agency is indeed working on the future supply of Brimstone products. According to the Minister of Defense, now these missiles are proposed to be used as coastal-based anti-ship weapons.

The next day, Undersecretary of Defense James Hippie clarified the department's plans. Thus, the issue of the supply of missiles has already been resolved, and the first batch of such weapons is planned to be sent in the coming weeks. In the absence of difficulties, Ukraine will receive Brimstone products by May 10th. However, the number of missiles, modification, basing method and other details are not reported.

Multipurpose missile


The promising Brimstone rocket was developed in the mid-nineties by several European companies, which later became part of the current MBDA Missile Systems. The first goal of the project was to create an aircraft missile to destroy ground armored targets. Such a product appeared at the turn of the decades, and in the first half of the XNUMXs it was tested, after which it was adopted by the British Air Force.

In the future, the rocket went through several upgrades of various kinds, aimed at improving the performance characteristics. New guidance principles were introduced, flight characteristics were improved, etc. The possibility of using it on new media was also studied, incl. land and surface.


Brimstone missile on a fighter mount

The first customer for Brimstone missiles was the Royal Air Force - they purchased such weapons for their Tornado GR4 and Typhoon fighter-bombers. Since 2011, British aviation has repeatedly used new missiles during operations in Libya, Syria and Iraq. Also, aircraft missiles entered service with Germany and Saudi Arabia. Interest from other countries has been reported.

It is curious that only the original aviation version of the rocket and several of its improved modifications were brought to operation. The ground and ship versions of the missile system were proposed several years ago, but so far they have not progressed beyond testing.

Technical features


Brimstone is a multi-purpose guided missile capable of hitting armored vehicles and other ground targets. All variants of such a rocket are built in a cylindrical body 1,8 m long and 180 mm in diameter. Weight of products - 50 kg.

Rockets of all modifications are equipped with solid propellant engines that provide supersonic flight speeds up to 450 m/s. The basic version of the missile when launched from an aircraft has a range of at least 20 km. The Brimstone 2 modification received a different engine, with which it flies 60 km. The promising Brimstone 3 / SPEAR 3 project provides for an increase in range to 100 km.


UAV with missile weapons

All variants of Brimstone missiles are equipped with a tandem HEAT warhead. To destroy armored vehicles, a contact fuse is used, for other purposes - a remote fuse with a setting of the detonation range.

Initially, the Brimstone missile was equipped only with an active microwave homing radar and an inertial navigation system, due to which the “launch and forget” principle was implemented. At the end of the XNUMXs, a Dual-mode Brimstone modification was created, in which the ARGSN was supplemented with a laser head. This expanded combat capabilities, and also made it possible to maintain control over the missile throughout the flight.

In all subsequent modifications, only combined guidance means are used. At the same time, as the overall development of the family, new components are introduced and all the main characteristics grow.

The aviation version of the Brimstone missile is used by the Tornado and Typhoon aircraft. Integration to other fighter-bombers is possible. Experiments were also carried out with the AH-64E helicopter. In all cases, rockets are used with a triple holder.

For the Brimstone Sea Spear ship modification, a special launcher with six containers on a swivel-lift base has been developed. Depending on its dimensions and available space, a boat or ship may carry one or more of these installations. The guide package can also be used on ground platforms. In particular, a version of the missile system on a robotic chassis has already been demonstrated.


Missile system based on a boat

Objective problems


In general, MBDA Brimstone guided missiles are modern and successful weapons with fairly high performance. The technical and combat potential of the products of the family has been repeatedly demonstrated at training grounds and in real operations. In addition, new modifications of missiles are being developed with certain features that should affect the prospects for the family as a whole.

In the near future, Brimstone missiles should reach Ukraine. And it can be assumed that their supply will only benefit the UK, which will be able to master the allocated budget and support its industry. There is no real benefit for the Ukrainian side in this situation, and a number of objective factors hinder its receipt.

First of all, Ukraine will face the problem of carriers. Serial modifications of Brimstone are designed for military aviation, but the Ukrainian Air Force does not have compatible equipment. In the recent past, the issue of deploying missiles on boats planned for construction under new agreements was discussed. However, the Ukrainian Navy is actually destroyed, and the transfer of new surface combat units does not make sense.

The British Ministry of Defense leadership now mentions that the missiles will be placed on ground platforms, but does not specify on which ones. Moreover, serial samples of this kind are not yet available. At the same time, B. Johnson previously mentioned that Brimstone products can be placed on the so-called. technicals. It is obvious that such handicraft self-propelled missile systems have a very limited potential.


Brimstone on a robotic platform

One of the advantages of Brimstone missiles is their high range. However, its use requires appropriate means of illumination of the situation, detection of targets and target designation. Whether Ukraine can correctly organize the use of such weapons and realize their potential is a big question.

Brimstone products are proposed to be used as anti-ship weapons. The effectiveness of a missile in this role may be limited. A supersonic missile with a tandem warhead can pose a serious danger only to boats and small ships. A larger pennant after such a missile will need to be repaired, but will most likely keep its course and combat capability.

However, before causing damage to ground or surface targets, the "Ukrainian" missile will have to break through the defenses. High-precision weapons like Brimstone products are one of the main modern threats, and they were taken into account when creating modern air defense systems. Therefore, a successful breakthrough to the goal is not guaranteed.

Unrealizable potential


Thus, the situation around the British Brimstone guided missiles is somewhat similar to other episodes of foreign military assistance to Ukraine, but has its own characteristics. This time, unlike a number of previous cases, we are talking about modern weapons with high performance and good combat capabilities. However, the recipient will not be able to realize the full potential of such assistance due to objective problems and limitations.

However, the supply of British missiles should not be ignored. With all the problems, these weapons can pose a danger to our army and civilian facilities. Accordingly, the expected missile systems based on Brimstone products should be one of the primary targets for forceful demilitarization.
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  1. 0
    April 28 2022 05: 55
    Rockets need carriers. And the Armed Forces of Ukraine had almost no aviation left. It is good that ground-based complexes are available only in prototypes.
    1. 0
      16 May 2022 17: 07
      you can give a monkey a grenade, the main thing is the result, more damage to the Slavs!
  2. 0
    April 28 2022 06: 01
    Without target designation and the introduction of at least preliminary target data in the GOS of the missile, the effectiveness will be in the style of "To whom God will send."
    Well, not how are they going to use line-of-sight anti-tank systems ?!
  3. +10
    April 28 2022 06: 02
    we are talking about modern weapons with high performance and good combat capabilities.
    Any shooting game is already a threat to us. It is desirable to destroy when crossing the border of an independent ...
    1. +6
      April 28 2022 11: 17
      Almost every day we learn about unparalleled weapons transferred by the West:

      Sweden, according to some reports, will transfer a batch of 155-mm self-propelled guns FH77 BW Archer to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      The deployment-collapse time of 30 seconds allows you to practically "on the move" solve a fire mission at a speed of 8 rounds per minute, and then immediately get on your skis.

      At the same time, he throws the UAS "Excalibur" at 60 km, conventional shells - at 30 km, and all this is fully automatic.
      1. -3
        April 28 2022 16: 18
        And right after 30 seconds after stopping, it starts to hit at a speed of eight rounds per minute for 60 km?

        May I ask a stupid question? Why is this superwunderwaffle still not purchased by the hundreds of all the planetary forces, even its manufacturers have put most of these self-propelled guns in storage?
        1. +6
          April 28 2022 17: 11
          Quote: demiurg
          And right after 30 seconds after stopping, it starts to hit at a speed of eight rounds per minute for 60 km?

          May I ask a stupid question? Why is this superwunderwaffle still not purchased by the hundreds of all the planetary forces, even its manufacturers have put most of these self-propelled guns in storage?

          Answer: Why is Russia not now buying attack drones from China?
        2. +3
          April 28 2022 22: 26
          Quote: demiurg
          And right after 30 seconds after stopping, it starts to hit at a speed of eight rounds per minute for 60 km?

          May I ask a stupid question? Why is this superwunderwaffle still not purchased by the hundreds of all the planetary forces, even its manufacturers have put most of these self-propelled guns in storage?


          La, indeed - it can start shooting in 30 seconds.
          And yes, the barrel length of 52 calibers and the active-reactive Excalibur make it possible to shoot at 60 km.

          Full reloading of ammunition (manually and with the help of those units that are integrated into the self-propelled guns (- 8 minutes!
          Preparation for shooting from the moment of stopping - 30 seconds.
          see here.


          Do they buy everything?
          Very simply explained.
          1. Not cheap. To many countries, or rather their chiefs of staff, this seems redundant.
          They fight mainly with neighbors - therefore, when choosing to buy weapons, they first look at their neighbors. And if they don’t have anything like that, then they themselves won’t buy something more upscale.
          2. Stored? What are you supposed to do? They created the initial order from the parameters: How much army is needed in wartime, how much is needed in peacetime ...
          Has this question suddenly become a cornerstone for you? How many tanks do we have in storage? why are they in storage? Maybe for war time?
          I'm surprised at your questions - they look so childish..
        3. +1
          April 29 2022 03: 30
          Quote: demiurg
          And right after 30 seconds after stopping, it starts to hit at a speed of eight rounds per minute for 60 km?

          Here everything is clearly shown.
  4. +7
    April 28 2022 06: 25
    Initially, the Brimstone missile was equipped only with an active microwave homing radar and an inertial navigation system, due to which the “launch and forget” principle was implemented. At the end of the XNUMXs, a Dual-mode Brimstone modification was created, in which the ARGSN was supplemented with a laser head.
    Interesting girls dance! 4 pieces in a row! And I thought that everything in the history of Brimstone was "exactly the opposite"! That at first the British boys developed their product "based on" the American "Hellfire"; that is, with an INS and a semi-active laser seeker! And in 2008 they added a radar seeker and got this very "dual"! The British military considered the use of the "pure" laser "Brimstone" inconvenient!
    1. +1
      April 28 2022 09: 32
      and yet - shooting at a tank from 100 km seems idiocy
      1. +1
        April 28 2022 09: 53
        It looks like the Britons want to get a universal (multifunctional) missile! Which can be used not only against tanks, but also against boats ... stop the "steamboat" more, against stationary objects ... "By and large", they are not the first ... The same Hermes project assumed (suggests ...) the creation of anti-tank missiles (they are also multi-purpose ...) with a range of up to 100 km ...
        1. +2
          April 28 2022 09: 59
          and while she reaches the boat - where will he be? and a bigger steamer - so the warhead is small
          "you can not embrace the immensity!" K. Prutkov
          1. +1
            April 28 2022 10: 23
            Quote: novel xnumx
            a bigger steamer - so warhead is small

            I mean that sometimes missiles with small warheads are used against ships (ships) on purpose; they do not want to sink the "object", but stop it by damaging it "a little" ... or make it turn (turn away)!
            Quote: novel xnumx
            until she reaches the boat - where will he be?

            And where will the ship be if you shoot the X-35 from a distance of 500 km? However, they are going! "Brimstones" 2,3 "generations" can have a radio correction mode ...
            1. +2
              April 28 2022 11: 26
              an attempt to inflate hellfire to pcr? dubious idea
              1. +4
                April 28 2022 13: 16
                Quote: novel xnumx
                an attempt to inflate hellfire to pcr? dubious idea

                This is not an attempt.
                It already exists.
                and it's supersonic.
  5. AAC
    0
    April 28 2022 07: 08
    Let them send. If we have to contact the KVVS, then they will have fewer missiles, and the UVVS will not use it. It is important to destroy them in time.
  6. -3
    April 28 2022 08: 27
    They will fuse, sho is not necessary, at the same time they can receive money from the USA
  7. +6
    April 28 2022 09: 00
    A dangerous thing, small, long-range, even a truck can be a carrier:

    And the goal can be everything from BT to ships.

    In general, it is strange that Britain ships everything it can to Ukraine. Literally (even the latest developments).

    The same Germany basically loads not what it can, but what has been removed from service. And he adds that Germany itself needs modern weapons to fulfill its obligations in NATO. And she, Germany, would be better off making and selling her weapons to those countries that supply Soviet models to Ukraine.
    1. +3
      April 28 2022 21: 50
      Have you noticed this too? I think the concept of war in Ukraine has changed. Now every developer wants to supply them with the newest and most modern weapons in order to test them in real combat operations, improve, improve training, remote control of weapons and troops. And the phenomenal accuracy with which it, this weapon works, speaks of the hand of the master. Campaign, the Ukrainians will simply drag him to the front line, the rest will be done by the British, remotely. Everything is geared towards this.
      And there is no need to say that they will drink it away, sell it or direct it against NATO itself. Without a team from the Pentagon, it's just scrap metal.
      1. +3
        April 28 2022 23: 24
        No.
        All countries are different.
        Britain - "as if not in itself."
        Germany - "Ukraine is on you, which is not good for us."
        France - quietly and imperceptibly.
        All sorts of Denmark and the Netherlands are ready to tear off half of their last pants and give them away, only they don’t have enough pants.
        Israel - wants, but ... helmets and a hospital.

        All weapons are normal, and without personnel (who are Ukrainians) does not work.

        So far, the United States is marching in arms to Ukraine by a wide margin.
        And he is already preparing to leave completely:
        1) Arms lend-lease is on the way
        3) On the way 33 billion for weapons.
        Soon there will be more weapons in Ukraine than in Germany or Britain, IMHO, Mountains of weapons.
        1. +1
          April 29 2022 18: 47
          I agree, there are many and different weapons. It is necessary to finish the special operation as soon as possible, it becomes not comfortable.
  8. +2
    April 28 2022 09: 46
    First of all, Ukraine will face the problem of carriers. Serial modifications of Brimstone are designed for combat aviation, but the Ukrainian Air Force does not have compatible equipment.

    Solid fog. There are more questions than answers.
    Back in 2020, Kyiv requested from London a naval version of the Brimstone to equip its Navy, and the British agreed to develop and supply it. However, now we are talking about a variant of a missile for hitting ground targets - this also exists. In 2019, rocket developer MBDA consortium tested a ground-based version of the Brimstone by launching rockets from a jeep-based mobile launcher.
    And not only Great Britain, but also American MLRS, the deliveries of which were confirmed last week by US Deputy Secretary of State Victoria Nuland. Then she said that Washington is now working with NATO allies to get Kyiv even more rocket systems.
    https://svprea.ru/war21/article/332675/
  9. -2
    April 28 2022 09: 47
    Where in Ukraine will they get so many highly qualified technicians, gunners, programmers?
    1. +1
      April 28 2022 13: 18
      Quote: APASUS
      Where in Ukraine will they get so many highly qualified technicians, gunners, programmers?


      Well, there are a lot of programmers out there.
      And they don't really need officers.
      They switched to a sergeant's control system a few years ago.
      It is the sergeants in the field who have the right to make decisions.
      They don't need an officer.
      1. -2
        April 28 2022 14: 50
        Quote: SovAr238A
        They don't need an officer.

        Tractor driver Mikola with a sledgehammer will be assigned to check the condition of the missiles? We are already familiar with this story, they somehow dropped an American radar from a truck during unloading
        1. +1
          April 28 2022 22: 32
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: SovAr238A
          They don't need an officer.

          Tractor driver Mikola with a sledgehammer will be assigned to check the condition of the missiles? We are already familiar with this story, they somehow dropped an American radar from a truck during unloading


          Forget the tractor driver Mikola.
          Ukraine is exactly the same country as ours. They have a lot of programmers, developed young guys with experience in repairing modern cars - no less than ours, because they didn’t close their second-hand car market. So sensible service workers - they have more than ours. The agricultural machinery market in an agrarian country always moves towards the latest tractors and combines, which, in terms of equipping with computers, are completely superior to rockets ...
          A modern tractor, by the way, is much cooler than a rocket!
          The cost of a modern multifunctional complex can easily exceed $1 million. And they buy it! Because it pays off very quickly.


          And then. what they drop...
          They drop everywhere.
          And we have and in Israel and in the USA and Australia and in China.
          80% of the strength of any army in the world are absolutely "simple" and "clear" people!
          1. -1
            April 28 2022 23: 45
            Quote: SovAr238A
            Quote: APASUS
            Quote: SovAr238A
            They don't need an officer.

            Tractor driver Mikola with a sledgehammer will be assigned to check the condition of the missiles? We are already familiar with this story, they somehow dropped an American radar from a truck during unloading


            Forget the tractor driver Mikola.
            Ukraine is exactly the same country as ours. They have a lot of programmers, developed young guys with experience in repairing modern cars - no less than ours, because they didn’t close their second-hand car market. So sensible service workers - they have more than ours. The agricultural machinery market in an agrarian country always moves towards the latest tractors and combines, which, in terms of equipping with computers, are completely superior to rockets ...
            A modern tractor, by the way, is much cooler than a rocket!
            The cost of a modern multifunctional complex can easily exceed $1 million. And they buy it! Because it pays off very quickly.


            And then. what they drop...
            They drop everywhere.
            And we have and in Israel and in the USA and Australia and in China.
            80% of the strength of any army in the world are absolutely "simple" and "clear" people!

            Don't tell me, what does the used car market and "young and developed guys" have to do with it? According to your logic, used cars can only be dealt with by young people? Is a tractor cooler than an ATGM rocket? Hmm...
          2. -2
            April 29 2022 08: 04
            Quote: SovAr238A
            A modern tractor, by the way, is much cooler than a rocket!

            I understand you are off topic.
            In the service, he was engaged in the installation of locators, from landing to control of outer space.
            A tractor cannot be compared in complexity with a rocket, this is a completely different system. Narrow specialization, and in addition to having brains, implies training in this area and for this rocket system.
  10. +1
    April 28 2022 12: 30
    Now I recognize the style from the name. When I read about Western weapons that cost nothing, they are mythical
    Ryabov Kirill. A great.
    1. +4
      April 28 2022 13: 30
      I still don’t understand who put a minus, you don’t like Kirill Ryabov ???? or you think like him. that Western weapons are always garbage that you don’t have to worry about ???? thank you
  11. -3
    April 28 2022 12: 43
    Although the success of the application is doubtful, the thing is still dangerous. And it’s not cheap either, but Bunderland will still have to pay. The impudent Saxons won't even give last year's snow for free.
    "If by some miracle this missile is tied to some infantry "motorcycle league" through deprivation, suffering and overwhelm, then all the advantages of this missile immediately go to the garden and it will not be a NAR or an ATGM.
    Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1651097647
  12. IVZ
    +2
    April 28 2022 13: 35
    Even the potential that is available for implementation is more than high. A very dangerous weapon and a desirable object for study.
    1. 0
      April 28 2022 19: 41
      This missile can be guided by a UAV, a reconnaissance officer discovered a tank checkpoint dugout, a cluster of infantry - he transmitted information to the operator, he, in conjunction with a launcher on the same truck, launches a missile in a given area, the drone illuminates the target with a laser, the missile head picks up radiation and aims at a target at a distance of 40 kilometers it’s quite realistic to shoot and who knows, maybe these missiles, in addition to laser and mini radar guidance in the latest modification, up to 100 km and satellite GPS guidance, the UK may well supply several thousand of these missiles of all modifications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
  13. +2
    April 28 2022 14: 13
    If the impudent Saxons want to conduct tests in combat conditions, and this is exactly what is looming, then the carriers will "deliver", along with the calculations.
    1. +2
      April 28 2022 22: 02
      Why do they need calculations? They have 4G throughout Ukraine and Starlinks secure satellite communications. These are not the Syrian and Kadyrov tribes. They'll bolt it to a Gazelle truck and drive it to the front line, the Britons will do the rest, over the phone.
  14. -1
    April 28 2022 22: 11
    "There is no real benefit for the Ukrainian side" The only thing that will benefit this side is to capitulate immediately and unconditionally. The British will also win a little, they obviously want to test them in missiles in conditions of real opposition (not against the Papuans, roughly speaking), but the testers will let them down, definitely.
  15. +2
    April 28 2022 23: 47
    A purely rhetorical question, if they openly supply weapons and share information to the side of the conflict, are they targets for our army, purely legally?
  16. 0
    April 29 2022 05: 02
    All this is interesting! But who will operate it? And who in their right mind would let these deadly things get into Ukraine?
    1. -1
      April 29 2022 11: 57
      Those who supply everything else to Ukraine of a similar plan for more than one month.
  17. +1
    April 29 2022 13: 52
    The MQ-9 Reaper UAV that the United States is going to supply can act as their carrier
  18. E B
    0
    April 29 2022 16: 42
    do not underestimate the supplies, so it is necessary, if possible, to increase the pace of destruction of the Donbass grouping, up to removing most of the forces from the far east of the south, etc. you just can’t touch Kaliningrad and everything to the Donbass, otherwise time is playing against us now, unfortunately, the main trouble from them drones and arts, but arts are at least gradually destroyed, but with drones worse, an inconspicuous and dirty thing, especially shock-type copters, on which they put 60 mm NATO mines and throw them aimingly
  19. 0
    16 May 2022 17: 08
    tests, we shoot somewhere there, the main thing is that they spat with saliva and already joy in my soul ... then the urks will cry. hal hazel fruit was carrying to the children, and they covered him with calibers and killed a simple hard worker with many children, orphans, a wife without a breadwinner went from hand to hand, kRti Muscovites ...

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