The West is massively pumping weapons to Ukraine. What can this lead to?

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Western countries have been actively delivering in recent weeks weapons and military equipment to Ukraine, we are talking about tanks, artillery and even Mi-17 helicopters, which they promised to hand over to the United States. The New York Times reports that a group of representatives from 14 countries is working in Germany, coordinating the supply of weapons to Ukraine. Moreover, there is talk that the United States is considering transferring long-range missiles to Ukraine that can hit Russian military airfields.

In particular, U.S. Deputy Secretary of Defense Kathleen Hicks recently said that the U.S. would consider transferring the funds requested by Kyiv, “in terms of giving them a little more range and distance". Experts suggest that these could be Lockheed Martin's MGM-140 ATACMS operational-tactical missile systems that use ballistic missiles. These complexes, whose effective range reaches 300 km, make it possible to deliver strikes into the depths of Russian territory.



Military expert Alexei Leonkov even admitted that the United States would supply Ukraine with Tomahawk missiles, which would allow strikes deep into Russia, adding that such a scenario still looks unlikely. So far, this is true, but everything will depend on the further course of the military special operation in Ukraine, which is currently going through quite hard, which is why the original plans for the operation were forced to adjust.

But the transfer of MQ-9 Reaper (“Reaper”) strike UAVs to Ukraine, which in their capabilities surpass the Turkish strike UAVs used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, could become much more dangerous. Drones Bayraktar TB2. Ukrainian fighters have experience in the use of attack drones and have well-trained operators, so the transfer of "Reapers" can hit the security of the Russian Federation hard. The author of the telegram channel Atomic Cherry believes that the MQ-9 Reaper is structurally sharpened for operations in large-scale military conflicts with active opposition from echeloned air defense, and the Ukrainian Air Force will not need long-term training to use the Reaper UAV.

“They can use them immediately after delivery, expanding both their reconnaissance capabilities at the operational level, and launching attacks on the Russian border military and civilian infrastructure (in particular, air defense facilities, railway junctions, fuel storage facilities) with further penetration deep into the territory of the Russian Federation . This is not an exaggeration, but only a dry statement of facts that have long been verified by practice - the MQ-9 is capable of taking off in Kyiv, reaching the Moscow region, delivering a series of missile and bomb strikes and returning back. Its flight range is 1900 km, and the time spent in the air is 27 hours. Combat load drone allows you to destroy a tank company in one sortie using several types of high-precision weapons, without entering the zone of destruction of short-range air defense systems.

Some Russian military experts, such as Reserve Major General Vladimir Popov, are confident that Russian air defense will cope with the Reaper, however, as practice shows, in difficult situations, the air defense system often fails. Ukrainian helicopters twice entered Russian airspace and attacked Belgorod and the Bryansk region, remaining unnoticed by the air defense system. The Soviet-made Ukrainian Tu-141 Strizh unmanned aerial vehicle flew over Romania and Hungary without hindrance, and then crashed and exploded in the capital of Croatia, and the air defense simply did not see it. This suggests that any protection system is not reliable and can always be deceived.

At the moment, it seems obvious that the longer the war drags on, the more Western enemies of Russia will provide Ukraine with weapons, and consequently, the more fierce and bloody the war will become. It was not possible to take Ukraine from a swoop attack with small forces from several directions, so the plans had to be adjusted, retreat from Kyiv and transfer troops to the east of Ukraine, focusing on the liberation of Donbass and the encirclement of the Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. However, one should not forget that the enemy is well aware of the plans of the RF Armed Forces (they are obvious to everyone) and is also strengthening this direction. Therefore, a quick victory may not work.

Ukraine is constantly replenishing its losses at the expense of the mobilized, and the RF Armed Forces, in turn, have no military reserves. The reason for this is the underestimation of the enemy and the expectation of a quick end to the military campaign in Ukraine. Former Defense Minister of the DPR, retired FSB colonel Igor Strelkov believes that the “second stage” of the operation may be delayed, and Russia needs to carry out partial mobilization.

“The general lack of forces will not allow the Russian command to carry out deep coverage in the Dnieper (Ekaterinoslav) region. For this, there is simply not enough strength. Therefore, the offensive will be carried out "along the shortest directions": from the north - to Slavyansk-Kramatorsk (maximum - to Barvenkovo), from the south - to the Ugledar-Kurakhovo line. Both of these lines of operation inevitably lead our troops to "stick" into heavily fortified and occupied by large garrisons prepared in advance for defense, continuous urban agglomerations. Thus, after some time in these areas, the situation will repeat itself, which already exists in the areas of Rubizhnoye - Severodonetsk, Popasnaya, Avdeevka and Maryinka, where the allied forces are moving forward very slowly. The enemy is satisfied with this method of warfare "more than completely." Why? Because the Armed Forces of Ukraine need another one and a half to two (maximum three) months to prepare large reserves - not in the form of constant replenishment to the active troops, but in the form of new units and formations that can be involved in other strategic directions, while the Russian forces " bleed”, storming the fortified cities of Donbass. Without carrying out at least partial mobilization in the Russian Federation, carry out deep strategic offensive operations on the so-called. “Ukraine” is both impossible and extremely dangerous.”

Perhaps this opinion sounds too pessimistic, but it has the right to exist, because the offensive of the People's Militia of the LDNR ran into Ukrainian fortified areas, which are a very difficult task to take. Fighting near Avdiivka, which they unsuccessfully tried to take by storm several times with the support of aviation, is a prime example of this. And delaying victory, as already mentioned above, is fraught with the fact that unfriendly Western countries will become more and more impudent and provide their Kyiv puppets with more and more serious weapons systems. Russia definitely needs a major victory, and for this it needs a build-up of forces.
  • Victor Biryukov
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  1. +28
    April 24 2022 05: 47
    I agree with Strelkov's opinion.
    1. -34
      April 24 2022 06: 23
      So forward with him to the trenches. Gather volunteers and go to the front line.
      1. There is no such option in the commander-in-chief's plan.
        1. -23
          April 24 2022 12: 27
          Apparently Strelkov too. He is a good soldier. Otherwise, a balabol with a bunch of complexes and narcissism of level 60. His level is a battalion and this is the largest.
        2. dSK
          +3
          April 24 2022 23: 14
          During the retreat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine blew up ALL bridges.
          And I will continue to destroy them.
          In response, it is necessary to destroy ALL bridges in the most western Ukraine, Russia will not have to restore them.
          It is unlikely that they will be released in order to get rid of the Nazis, a third of the population must be destroyed there.

          In order to destroy the heavy weapons that reach the front, it will be necessary to turn the unliberated cities of Donbass into "Mariupol".
          Donetsk, Pervomaiskoe, Gorlovka and other liberated cities are shelled almost every day, hundreds of destroyed houses...
      2. -2
        April 24 2022 23: 38
        During mobilization, all those liable for military service will go into service, deserters will go to the tribunal.
    2. +38
      April 24 2022 06: 35
      Quote: Oorfene Juice and his Wooden Soldiers
      I agree with Strelkov's opinion.

      Strelkov, as in 2014, was right, and right now. Time does not wait, delay is dangerous.
      1. +17
        April 24 2022 09: 50
        Yes, he will tell an inconvenient truth. And what will the pumping of weapons lead to. Only to big losses both among civilians and among our military. only there. An example is today's night action near the dental clinic and the destruction of the figure of a grandmother with a flag.
        1. +3
          April 24 2022 11: 06
          In addition to the United States and Great Britain, dozens of countries are actively helping Ukraine with weapons. Placed / will place weapons:

          Australia:
          $70 million (US$51,6 million) in military aid, including missiles and weapons.

          Austria:
          Hard hats, bulletproof vests and 100 liters of fuel.

          Belgium:
          200 anti-tank guns, 3 automatic rifles and 000 machine guns.

          Canada:
          Up to 4 M500 rocket launchers, 72 fragmentation tests, up to 1 hand grenades, $600 million for the purchase of high-resolution commercial satellite images and modern images, machine guns, pistols, carbines; 7 million ammunition, sniper rifles and other related equipment worth $500 million Other military support including helmets, body armor, gas masks and night vision goggles worth $1 million

          Croatia:
          Rifles, machine guns and protective equipment worth 124 million kunas ($18,1 million)

          Czech Republic:
          Heavy weapons worth 400 million kuna ($17,9 million), including 160 shoulder-mounted MANPADS, 20 light machine guns, 132 assault rifles, 70 submachine guns, 108 rounds of ammunition and 000 tactical gloves (including possibly 1 bazooka); 000 million crowns (US$10.000 million) for 188 mortars, 8,4 pistols, 4 assault rifles, 000 machine guns, several sniper rifles, and 30 million rounds of ammunition; five T-000 tanks and five BVP-7 armored personnel carriers.

          Denmark:
          2 anti-tank weapons, 700 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles (returned to the US to be restored to working order) and protective vests.

          Estonia:
          Javelin anti-tank missiles; 9 howitzers (with German permission)

          European Union:
          €500 million ($551 million) in military aid

          Finland:
          2 bulletproof vests, 000 helmets, 2 machine guns and 000 cartridges for them, 2 single-shot anti-tank rifles and 500 combat rations.

          France did not provide details of military assistance, saying only that it amounted to 100 million euros.

          Germany:
          1 anti-tank guns and 000 Stinger anti-aircraft guns; 500 anti-aircraft missiles, night vision devices, 1500 machine guns and ammunition; permission for other countries to send 100 armored vehicles. Later, tanks may be delivered.

          Greece:
          An unknown number of portable rocket launchers, ammunition and Kalashnikov assault rifles.

          Ireland:
          Bulletproof clothing and fuel.

          Italy:
          120 mortars, Stinger anti-aircraft missile launchers, Browning heavy machine guns, Browning grenades, light machine guns, anti-tank missiles, anti-tank rounds, rations, radios, hard hats and safety vests.

          Japan:
          Bulletproof vests, helmets and military winter uniforms.

          Latvia:
          Anti-aircraft missiles Stinger.

          Lithuania:
          Anti-aircraft missile systems Stinger and their ammunition.

          Luxembourg:
          100 light anti-tank guns, as well as four-wheel drive vehicles and 15 military tents

          Netherlands:
          200 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, 3 combat helmets and 000 body armor with matching armor plates, 2 sniper rifles with 000 rounds, and other equipment; 100 bazookas (with German permission) and possibly later armored vehicles.

          North Macedonia:
          Military supplies and equipment, no details.

          Norway:
          4 anti-tank weapons, helmets, bulletproof vests, other protective equipment.

          Poland:
          Tens of thousands of grenades and artillery ammunition, anti-aircraft missiles, light mortars and reconnaissance drones.

          Portugal:
          Grenades and ammunition, G3 automatic rifles and other non-lethal equipment.

          Source: https://t.me/MediaKiller2021/3139
          1. +21
            April 24 2022 12: 12
            It started with the supply of small arms, then ATGMs, MANPADS, and now there is already talk about the supply of the MGM-140 ATACMS OTRK ... What will we do in the event of a missile attack by OTRK data on a settlement (city) in the depths of the Russian Federation ?????? ??
            1. +1
              April 24 2022 23: 37
              Why wait?
              I think it can be quite bluntly announced that when delivering any means of destruction, let's say more than 50 km, Russia reserves the right to transfer weapons with a three times greater distance to ANY country in the world. Or five. That is, if the United States supplies Ukraine with missiles with a range of 300 km, well, OK, we will give Venezuela missiles that will reach the White House.
              I already wrote here - you cannot respond to their moves, you must constantly exceed the escalation level, otherwise they will not stop. Their strength lies in the standard of living they are afraid of losing, and our allies have nothing to lose. :)
              1. +5
                April 25 2022 11: 27
                I absolutely agree. You just need to state that when delivering OTRK, the Russian Federation leaves the missile technology control regime (MTCR) and, for example, North Korea can get much more advanced missile technologies than it currently has ... And then, it will already be theirs headache ... Since a missile with a "dirty" warhead, and in the future with a nuclear one, may accidentally fall, for example, on Washington ... hi
              2. +2
                April 25 2022 16: 34
                Quote: Denis812
                That is, if the United States supplies Ukraine with missiles with a range of 300 km, well, OK, we will give Venezuela missiles that will reach the White House.

                The only difference is that Ukraine will shoot at our territory, while Venezuela will not shoot at the White House.
                1. 0
                  4 May 2022 08: 40
                  What are you... That is, the United States, just for the sake of interest, slander Venezuela, the UK and Iran?
                  that is, the United States knows 100% that all these countries will not shoot at the United States, but hinder their missile program just out of interest? :)

                  The Russian Federation must do everything to make the position of the United States as critical as ours at the moment. They should be able to be threatened by anyone who wants to do so.
                  Otherwise, it will not reach the United States that it is necessary to TALK and negotiate with us, and not to supply weapons to the limitrophes.
      2. +15
        April 24 2022 10: 04
        Strelkov was thrown in 2014 by Surkov and Akhmetov with a blessing ... We see the fruits today. And now where is Surkov and where is Akhmetov? To trust the enemies of the people is to create problems for yourself, they always stick a knife in the back. Well, we are not 37 years old .....
      3. +1
        April 26 2022 02: 41
        We must muster up the courage to admit that if
        Time does not wait, delay is dangerous.
        (and this state was already in 2014), then time REALLY does not wait and soon there comes a situation when "the time has already passed, they procrastinated." Otherwise, this completely fair formula is completely depreciated.
    3. -18
      April 24 2022 18: 19
      I agree with Strelkov's opinion.
      I won’t stop asking: isn’t this the same Strelkov who leaked half of the territory of the DPR to Ukraine?
  2. +20
    April 24 2022 05: 47
    These complexes, whose effective range reaches 300 km, make it possible to deliver strikes into the depths of Russian territory.

    I propose not to wind snot on a fist, but to warn the Pentagon and the Biden administration that in the event of a missile attack on Russian territory by American missiles, this will be regarded as US aggression with all the ensuing (according to the doctrine) consequences ...
    =====
    As for Ukraine, it is time to make sure that there is no one there to receive arms supplies from outside. Why is there still a cellular connection in this territory and the Nazi media work?
    1. +28
      April 24 2022 05: 55
      protracted conflict - there is nothing worse. and resources are running out and people are exhausting ...
      1. +17
        April 24 2022 06: 01
        Quote: Aerodrome
        protracted conflict - there is nothing worse. and resources are running out and people are exhausting ...

        Active hostilities (sudden rocket and artillery shelling, for example) during a protracted conflict are exhausting ... And also exhausting is the lack of electricity, water supply, communications and the possibility of movement ...
    2. +5
      April 24 2022 18: 01
      Quote: RO 42
      Why is there still a cellular connection in this territory and the Nazi media work?

      Bridges, railway junctions, power plants, echelons of fuel and lubricants are coming from Moldova, gas transit, and much more .. Yes, and the fifth column feels great with us ..
  3. +17
    April 24 2022 05: 50
    the air defense system often fails. Ukrainian helicopters twice entered Russian airspace and attacked Belgorod and the Bryansk region, remaining unnoticed by the air defense system
    People who consider helicopters and large high-altitude UAVs equal in their ability to overcome air defenses can be considered experts. Nose picking experts!
    But in combination with ATAKMS Reaper, of course, can add a lot of headaches. But even here the dominance in the air of the Russian Aerospace Forces will not give much will.
    In general, destroy railway bridges, automobile bridges, and as close as possible to the western borders!
    1. +21
      April 24 2022 06: 04
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      In general, destroy railway bridges, automobile bridges, and as close as possible to the western borders!

      Isolate the area from possible supplies... Yes
      It would be nice to close the Ukrainian GTS at the same time. This is some kind of nonsense ... Know-how of warfare ...
      1. -5
        April 24 2022 06: 27
        It won't be possible to isolate. Just limit as much as possible. GTS too early to touch. You need a lever for pressure.
    2. -4
      April 24 2022 06: 54
      I agree. The reaper has a working height, like that of a bayraktar, 8000m. The weapons are certainly more perfect and there are more of them. And I don’t think that the reaper is more difficult to detect than the bayraktar, the size is different.
      At one time, a sentinel was planted over Iran, and it is much more noticeable.
      About the fact that one ripper will take out a company of tanks is generally nonsense.
      1. +5
        April 24 2022 07: 45
        Quote: kytx
        About the fact that one ripper will take out a company of tanks is generally nonsense.

        A company is 10 tanks, how many attachment points does this "Reaper" have? Watch LTH
        MQ-9 Reaper capable of carrying up to 14 air-to-ground Hellfire missiles
        So theoretically it can, now it remains to understand, but from what height and range?
        AGM-114 "Hellfire" - 6 km ... That is, it is quite within the reach of our military air defense systems
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          2. +1
            April 24 2022 10: 21
            Quote: kytx
            What is hellfire range 6 km

            This is the guaranteed range at which her powder engine works and the rocket can hold the aiming line
        2. +1
          April 25 2022 13: 50
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: kytx
          About the fact that one ripper will take out a company of tanks is generally nonsense.

          A company is 10 tanks, how many attachment points does this "Reaper" have? Watch LTH
          MQ-9 Reaper capable of carrying up to 14 air-to-ground Hellfire missiles
          So theoretically it can, now it remains to understand, but from what height and range?
          AGM-114 "Hellfire" - 6 km ... That is, it is quite within the reach of our military air defense systems


          And now hang on Reapers - the second Brimstone in the amount of 8 units and with a maximum firing range from 40 to 69 km, depending on the speed and altitude of the carriers.
          LTH - you need to look modern and modern weapons.
          Although the second Brimstone has been the Reaper's weapon since 2015.
          But you either do not know about it, or deliberately keep silent.
          Which in both cases means betrayal.
          A conscious or unconscious public underestimation of the enemy's characteristics is concealment and deceit, and in wartime is regarded as a war crime.
    3. 0
      April 24 2022 07: 33
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      People who consider helicopters and large high-altitude UAVs equal in their ability to overcome air defenses can be considered experts. Nose picking experts!

      I agree. In this regard, of course, "Tomahawks" could now give us a certain "headache", apparently the time has come to use the entire Russian missile attack warning system.
      however, as practice shows, in difficult situations, the air defense system often fails ..... The Soviet-made Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicle Tu-141 "Strizh" flew freely through Romania and Hungary, and then fell and exploded in the capital of Croatia, and its air defense simply did not see.
      Yes, the fact of the matter is that they saw him to see, but no one had air defense systems on duty, they didn’t turn out to be in the right area ...
      1. +1
        April 24 2022 09: 16
        On the Tomahawk it is not written where and where it flies and what kind of warhead it has, so you can easily get an ICBM in response.
        1. -1
          April 25 2022 13: 54
          Quote from: laws70
          On the Tomahawk it is not written where and where it flies and what kind of warhead it has, so you can easily get an ICBM in response.


          What about Caliber?
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  5. +2
    April 24 2022 06: 29
    It is time to announce to the West that in response to the supply of arms to Ukraine, Russia will stop the export of energy resources, other strategically important for the EU, the US and related goods. No payments to Ukraine for gas transit, a tough response to attacks on Russian territory. The time to be nice to partners from unfriendly countries, or rather, hostile ones, is over. In war as in war. We’ll somehow survive the losses from the reduction in exports, we didn’t experience that ...
    1. -4
      April 24 2022 06: 32
      It's good but risky. Create a wild crisis around the world. What will it result in? And the fact that they will have no choice as to join the war but for resources. Bad option.
    2. +9
      April 24 2022 12: 20
      The problem is that the sale of energy resources to the West is our salaries and pensions. What we thought in the government and the General Staff before the start of the NWO, I don’t know, but I can guess. Some managed to lose 300 billion, others underestimate the enemy, who for 8 years only did what he was preparing for war with Russia.
      1. +3
        April 24 2022 18: 04
        Today surplus the budget for three months was 7.2 trillion rubles .. In 2021, it was 6 trillion rubles for the same three months .. However, the trend ..
        1. +1
          April 25 2022 07: 35
          Quote: max702
          Today surplus the budget for three months was 7.2 trillion rubles .. In 2021, it was 6 trillion rubles for the same three months .. However, the trend ..

          This means that funds are not being spent on budgeted expenditures... a huge surplus is a sign of poor performance of the government's economic bloc. And woe, economists do not understand the principles of budget formation, therefore they cannot predict incomes, but they cut expenses uncontrollably.
          1. +2
            April 25 2022 08: 51
            a huge surplus is a sign of poor-quality work of the economic bloc of the government

            So the surplus is determined by the imbalance of external sales and purchases. Energy products should be sold only in such volumes as are necessary to purchase an equivalent amount of necessary imports. Everything that is supplied in excess of this amount is, in fact, given away for free. If Stalin had such a tool (gas and oil), he would have turned inside out all these sirs, herrs and monsieurs
          2. 0
            April 25 2022 11: 53
            Quote: Civil
            This means that funds are not spent on budgeted expenditures.

            Where did you get it from? Did you come up with it yourself? The budget is just being fully implemented, but the revenue side is sharply larger than the expenditure side ... Although you will still feel bad in Russia anyway.
        2. -1
          April 25 2022 13: 59
          Quote: max702
          Today surplus the budget for three months was 7.2 trillion rubles .. In 2021, it was 6 trillion rubles for the same three months .. However, the trend ..


          It was ...
          Forget about it.
          When hundreds of thousands of people will lose their jobs completely in the near future, and there will be no income from import-export operations, except for oil and gas.
          there will be no collection of VAT from the market that has stood up tightly:
          1. Automotive technology.
          2. Household appliances and computer equipment.
          much more.
          When all these people have to pay unemployment benefits, and there is a qualitative decrease in the level of purchases, all this surplus will melt like spring snow.
      2. +2
        April 24 2022 19: 21
        The problem is that the sale of energy resources to the West is our salaries and pensions

        A very dubious claim. The point of foreign trade is to buy what you need, not to sell what you have. In fact, in exchange for a real product (gas), we now receive a virtual currency (the euro), which we cannot use to purchase Western-made goods that the country needs. Hence the conclusion: we give away our gas for free. The funny thing is, we give it away for free to those who are waging a proxy war against us.
      3. +1
        April 24 2022 23: 46
        By the way, the author of the "lost" is still in favor, continues to "work". And this is not a signal, this is thunder! Who and for what purpose sat down in the capital!?
    3. -1
      April 24 2022 18: 15
      Quote: likana
      We’ll somehow survive the losses from the reduction in exports, we didn’t experience that ...

      And what specifically "and not so" experienced?
      Quote: likana
      that in response to the supply of weapons to Ukraine, Russia stops the export of energy

      Russia has already frostbitten ears in spite of the adversary - what else to freeze? We have already proved that we really are a gas station with nuclear missiles and gas is our geopolitical weapon and a tool of blackmail. We climb into the world top in the only available way - at the ready with a gas pipe and a rough, but, as it turned out, not so all-conquering force. We offer the world neither technology, nor intellectual resources, nor financial management, nor sane innovative socio-political concepts - nothing.
      1. 0
        April 24 2022 22: 56
        And you can find out why the world has given up on this, to offer something to it? Well, except for weapons systems. Our world does not need globalism at all, we are self-sufficient. We close the gates and build our own home, in which everyone lives comfortably and happily. Their rules do not suit us. Then everyone who has been impudently got to us will be drawn to us with their model of continuous predatory expansion.
        1. -1
          April 24 2022 23: 52
          We were self-sufficient in the days of the USSR, but now we are far from it. And there are no longer many of those who possessed the secret knowledge of construction and creation. Along with self-sufficiency, education, the system of training and succession of personnel have also been lost. And so on and so forth. Now there are many bloggers, IT specialists, blacksmiths and plowmen are few. Yes, and they are not held in high esteem, they are held in high esteem completely ...
          1. +1
            April 25 2022 00: 11
            We will restore it. We need to work in the right direction, eradicating what is now held in high esteem. Breaking the situation hard and not deviating. There are people, and with the right upbringing, there will be more. A rolling stone gathers no moss. The communists of the last century changed the millennial ignorance and fear of the People, making them believe that they are the people, and every person.
            1. 0
              April 28 2022 22: 22
              So the communists! Their motto was Power to the People, factories to the workers... What kind of worker would not go for a brighter future? And go and build! And under what slogan will we restore now? Nothing even comes to mind. There are no such slogans in power! Between her and the People is an abyss, a sea of ​​lies and enmity!
              1. 0
                April 29 2022 04: 34
                And you noticed, minus. Reformatted consciousness. Even Here in VO, where there are only pennies in the mass, including warriors, the idea of ​​​​socialism is somehow not close to them.
                These are the first ones, strangled by tsarism and the bourgeoisie, thrown off, won the Civil War and built. And those who allowed the restoration ate vodka and dragged it themselves, which is bad. Hegemon... his mother. And fellow officers in the barracks sat out, despite the direct order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, when they shot us from tanks. It seems that decomposition began before the arrival of the labeled Judas.
          2. +1
            April 25 2022 14: 03
            Quote: Amper
            We were self-sufficient in the days of the USSR, but now we are far from it. And there are no longer many of those who possessed the secret knowledge of construction and creation. Along with self-sufficiency, education, the system of training and succession of personnel have also been lost. And so on and so forth. Now there are many bloggers, IT specialists, blacksmiths and plowmen are few. Yes, and they are not held in high esteem, they are held in high esteem completely ...


            We have never been self-sufficient.
            Even in Soviet times.
            We did not have so many foreign goods, but we need to clearly know that we did many foreign things by purchasing licenses for technologies and means of production.
            The same glues, paints - were licensed.
            Cars, components for them - licensed. Although they did in the Soviet Union.
            The same grinding machines at bearing factories were foreign.
            And so it is in all areas.
            So do not assume that we were self-sufficient.
            1. 0
              April 29 2022 04: 41
              Fairy tales and tales, from the time of perestroika. Auto, this is your forte. Well, yes, we can’t, and not when we won’t be able to, we always end up with a tank. Tanks, agree good. To assess the standard of living only by vulgar things is the destiny of people of stomachs, philistines.
              And there are many countries in the world where the production of their cars has not been established, so what.
            2. 0
              April 29 2022 19: 10
              At the end of the era of the USSR. Removing a license is not a sin and doing everything yourself (see the successes of the PRC). And to build an aircraft on the components of the enemy - there are no words. Import dependence under Putin has reached catastrophic proportions. There are no own industries, no jobs, no population, so the degradation of the state and people begins.
    4. 0
      April 26 2022 02: 44
      It's time to announce to the West

      Maybe it's time, but it won't.
  6. +11
    April 24 2022 07: 16
    will bring to the third my heart feels .... Happy Easter everyone!
    1. -2
      April 24 2022 20: 35
      Quote: Palestinian
      Happy Easter everyone!!

      Yeah, yeah .... Even here they managed to break through the bottom ...
  7. -12
    April 24 2022 07: 17
    Russian air defense to deal with this problem. The captured weapons must be sold to those who wish to cool the ardor of the geyropa. Use the proceeds to restore destroyed buildings.
  8. +11
    April 24 2022 07: 40
    Lift the embargo on the supply of arms to Iran and, in general, to the rogue states, North Korea and Venezuela.
    1. +9
      April 24 2022 12: 23
      And this is a thought. If Iran gets the Iskanders, then Israel may itch in one place and believe me, they will be able to influence the position of their American friends very quickly.
      1. +3
        April 25 2022 07: 08
        Quote: Rostok
        And this is a thought. If Iran gets the Iskanders, then Israel may itch in one place and believe me, they will be able to influence the position of their American friends very quickly.

        Only now, Israel itself, apart from bulletproof vests and helmets, does not supply anything, and it seems that it did not introduce any sanctions.
        And our military-political leadership is unlikely to need graters with Israel.
        1. 0
          April 26 2022 02: 49
          Additionally,
          to the position of their American friends
          Israel will influence something, but it is far from a fact that it is desirable for us.
  9. +18
    April 24 2022 07: 44
    It is very far from Maryinka to Popasnaya, and in these areas there has been no progress for 2 months. They say that we are not in a hurry, we are doing everything carefully pointwise in order to save the lives of our soldiers and civilians. But how to conduct a major offensive, with the organization of boilers? Strelkov says everything correctly, however, as always.
  10. +19
    April 24 2022 07: 47
    Did you decide to prepare the country for mobilization with similar articles? Interestingly, these are the personal opinions of such authors, or do they write it on orders from above? I am more than sure that if the government resorts to even partial mobilization, this will be a huge blow to its support. Most of the population will perceive this extremely negatively. Before starting a war with a neighboring state with an invasion of its territory, it is necessary to conduct a real assessment of the forces and means of its defense, the possible support of the allies, the reaction of the population and possible reserves, and also serious work with their own people. Pump him up with hatred for the future enemy, prepare him morally for a special operation, meaningfully show the danger of this state for Russia and its citizens, cleanse the country of pro-Western elements opposed to such actions. Nothing of this was done. The authorities did not betray the importance of all this, mistakenly believing that contractors and Caliber would cope quickly. The result is known to all. In society, persistent fermentation of the masses. This is reality. And there will be a lot of men who do not want to part with a peaceful life and go to the front. It's easy to press likes in the cart and VK. And to go to the draft board on the agenda - not everyone will be ready. There will be only one argument - to defend the country from an attack by an external aggressor - I am ready and will. And he did not sign up to go to war in a neighboring country. And morally he will be right.
    1. +2
      April 24 2022 18: 12
      .
      Quote: TatarinSR
      mistakenly believing that contractors and Caliber will cope and quickly

      All this would be quite enough if it were not for the greed in anticipation of future nishtyakov in the event of a quick victory. It was a pity to break and destroy future "businesses" from that and stupidity in the style of "light cavalry" in the early days of the NWO .. For a couple of months they would have bombed everyone and everything, and then they beat with strong fists in a couple of necessary directions, but no GREED! How to earn a pretty penny if everything is in the trash and dust .. And all this against the background of screams about the brotherly people waiting with flowers ..
    2. -2
      April 24 2022 18: 36
      Quote: TatarinSR
      Nothing of this was done.

      Okay, here it is:
      Quote: TatarinSR
      Pump him up with hatred for a future enemy

      for 8 years has been done in abundance. The brainwashing propaganda machine worked 24/7. The result of the high fees of Solovyov and Co. is obvious.
      1. +3
        April 24 2022 23: 07
        And who listens to them? The people, for a long time, have been scooping up information in social networks and drawing conclusions. And he wonders how it can turn out for everyone personally. And how to avoid it.
        Kamrad TatarinSR is one hundred percent right. Literally that week I received a response from a young guy, regarding the call - "they are tormented to look, they screwed up, but should I rake?" And the women will arrange such a nix, it won’t seem enough.
      2. 0
        April 26 2022 02: 58
        for 8 years it was done in abundance

        Few! Still not enough!!! Hatred should be - to convulsions, so that "they could not eat" from hatred. wink
    3. +1
      April 26 2022 02: 55
      Nothing of this was done.

      It seems that in a certain instance there is an obvious "bzik" on the topic of secrecy. The preparation of the operation was kept secret, but only half of those whose actions determine its effectiveness were simply not informed about what was planned, and, accordingly, the mass of the necessary was not done, and what was done was done without coordination and understanding of the common task.
      1. 0
        April 26 2022 08: 15
        That's it. They tried to keep the secret, and as a result, most of the officials, not to mention the common people, did not know anything, and on the morning of February 24 they were simply shocked. And the first question for many was - "What the hell!?" Only obscene words. The subsequent vague explanations of the authorities about "here's the attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the Donbass and about the development of nuclear weapons by Kyiv looked awkward and looked like pulling a donkey by the ears. About Nazism, fascism and so on - a separate conversation. And a long one. But precisely because of the information vacuum among officials and ordinary citizens, and many did not accept what happened. And even my friends are still not happy with this special operation. And trying to explain something to them means quarreling. Therefore, it’s easier not to raise this topic in communication. And it happens, the army is there where he is at war, but the country lives its own life, as if this does not happen to it.
  11. +18
    April 24 2022 07: 55
    the whole problem is that the generals are sitting in Moscow (quite far from hostilities), and the soldiers and officers directly conduct military operations risking their lives, hence all the problems it is necessary to put everyone with stripes in Lugansk, then decisions will be made faster and more accurately How much already they talk about the bombing of railway junctions and communications, but things are still there
    1. +7
      April 24 2022 08: 33
      Quote from sofa
      How much they already talk about the bombing of railway junctions and communications, but things are still there

      It is also not clear why this is happening. How much has already been said about the destruction of bridges and railway stations. But in response, there are weak excuses about refugees who will find it difficult to leave Ukraine. Who needed it, they left a long time ago. They also say that we ourselves may need bridges in western Ukraine. When our troops get there. Ours in the Donbass would be able to cope, break up the grouping.
    2. +3
      April 24 2022 10: 26
      In this war, ours have already lost several generals. So not everyone is sitting in Moscow.
    3. -1
      April 24 2022 19: 26
      Quote from sofa
      the whole problem is that the generals are sitting in Moscow (quite far from hostilities)

      Ai-yay-yay .... It's time to get potatoes ...
    4. 0
      April 26 2022 03: 00
      it is necessary to put everyone with stripes in Lugansk

      Here Khokhlyatsky rocket men will be delighted. Cognac will be sent to you later. laughing
  12. +18
    April 24 2022 08: 33
    About tough statements and other embargoes on gas, oil and titanium is ridiculous ...
    No, in my heart I am only for it, but in my mind I understand that this is fantastic.
    We have capitalism in the yard, guys.
    The lives of soldiers are priceless and all that, but in reality the most valuable thing is the wallet of specific "comrades" who do not consider us to be their comrades at all.
  13. +8
    April 24 2022 08: 50
    Quote: Palestinian
    will bring to the third my heart feels .... Happy Easter everyone!

    My heart felt IT already 30 years ago, when everyone was still jumping around their idol EBN. Payback has come.
  14. +10
    April 24 2022 09: 59
    In almost everything, one can agree with Strelkov. The West benefits from prolonging the conflict in Ukraine. Armaments are being pumped into the forming units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, armaments are being tested on a "potential" enemy, and the experience gained in combat operations against our army is being analyzed. A couple more weeks and the "green" will begin ...
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  15. +2
    April 24 2022 10: 04
    Who is the West? (addresses, passwords, attendance)
    How should one understand the euphemism "mass pumps"? Is pumping prohibited? This is their resource.
    Now what can war lead to. The following outcomes are possible: defeat, victory, a Pyrrhic victory, a change in the political superstructure and socio-economic basis.
    1. +8
      April 24 2022 12: 08
      I'll correct the comrade a little, "a change in the political superstructure and socio-economic basis" is a consequence of a defeat or a "pyrrhic" victory. The West, represented by NATO, was warned that if it intervened in the conflict, it would have serious consequences. De facto, the supply of weapons, advisers, mercenaries - this is interference. The only question left is how to answer.
      1. +2
        April 24 2022 14: 09
        NATO has been warned. And Vaska listens and eats.
        Now (during the war, in which the "special operation" is being carried out), the (liberal-democratic) system, established after the "victory of democracy" in 1991, is being tested for strength. Purely hypothetically, the system can collapse due to natural causes, a war can only accelerate this collapse, but this can lead to the strengthening of the state. But a Pyrrhic victory or even a victory (also purely hypothetical) can strengthen for a while what needs to be replaced. During this time, the window of opportunity will close. In the long run, this will mean defeat. If we fail now or in the future, we will all be killed. And a draw is impossible.
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          1. -2
            April 24 2022 23: 27
            You can ask these questions to the Head. And my salary is low.
  16. +10
    April 24 2022 10: 23
    We need to seriously take on the entire infrastructure of Ukraine. All transport, electricity, communications.
    It is also very strange that during such a war we actually pay money to the enemy.
    We pay for gas transit through Ukraine.
    We need to stop transit. If they want to receive this volume of gas, then there is Nord Stream 2.
  17. +4
    April 24 2022 10: 25
    Ukrainian fighters have experience in the use of attack drones and have well-trained operators, so the transfer of the Reapers could hit the security of the Russian Federation hard.

    All the same, it is necessary to retrain, although the operators may be Americans sitting somewhere in the USA, go check it out.
  18. -2
    April 24 2022 12: 07
    This can lead to what the ancient Jews "during it." First, the ala betrayed everything that can be betrayed, and then they became tough patriots. And after 30 years, they got into a war with the Romans.
    1. +1
      April 24 2022 12: 35
      What do you mean by the word became "tough patriots"? During the Jewish War, the defenders of the Mossad (Masada) fortress defended themselves for three years, and at the end they killed each other and their families. If this is not patriotism, then what is it???
  19. -10
    April 24 2022 12: 50
    Well, if Strelkov said ...
    It will lead to an escalation and the use of more severe methods, including with the defeat of targets outside the former. Ukraine. Or does someone believe that we have such stupid people in the Kremlin that they will endure an endless war, despite the fact that the soldiers' contracts seem to end? When choosing between problems in their own country and carpet bombing of Kyiv, carpet bombing will be chosen.

    Unless, of course, there is a collapse of the remnants of the state. authorities in Ukraine earlier, and it can happen regardless of the presence of weapons, it’s just that people in the mass are left without work and livelihoods. It cannot continue indefinitely.
  20. 0
    April 24 2022 12: 52
    when planes start falling from their own stingers in Europe, they will be very upset, but it will be too late
  21. +1
    April 24 2022 13: 08
    Both of these lines of operation inevitably lead our troops to "stick" into heavily fortified and occupied by large garrisons prepared in advance for defense, continuous urban agglomerations.
    Well, why bother? Bypass, cut off from supplies, leave blocking parts and fire. And we ourselves go west, as in 1944. They will sit for a month, they will come out on their own.
  22. +5
    April 24 2022 14: 51
    The West is on the side of Ukraine, and therefore provides any assistance. Putin misfired in domestic and foreign policy, so the conflict with Ukraine emerged. Now, the West and Ukraine have only one goal - the depletion of Russia.
  23. +5
    April 24 2022 15: 03
    It is surprising why absolutely anyone here understands that the prolongation of the war will lead to more and more of my pumping up Ukraine with weapons. And our leaders, based on their actions, it is not clear.
    Where, after all, is there any reaction to the supply of weapons by the West? So, is there anything to stop this?
    1. -2
      April 24 2022 19: 42
      Quote: certero
      Where, after all, is there any reaction to the supply of weapons by the West? So, is there anything to stop this?

      By "something" do you mean ending the war or something else?
  24. -2
    April 24 2022 15: 55
    Quote: Victor19
    What do you mean by the word became "tough patriots"? During the Jewish War, the defenders of the Mossad (Masada) fortress defended themselves for three years, and at the end they killed each other and their families. If this is not patriotism, then what is it???

    Patriotism. Satisfied?
    Do you have any other thoughts?
  25. +1
    April 24 2022 17: 10
    https://youtu.be/IHABt70Pr8Q
  26. DPN
    -5
    April 24 2022 18: 35
    To the revival of the UNION, only together WE are not victorious. On May 9, 1945, it was PROVEN!.
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  27. +1
    April 24 2022 18: 36
    I hope everyone understands that in a year or two Ukraine will be stuffed with weapons and this war will be until the last Ukrainian / Russian
  28. -1
    April 24 2022 18: 44
    Even according to the manual data of the State Statistics Committee, approximately 30 percent of the population of the Russian Federation does not support the special operation. If you announce mobilization, the number of opponents of the authorities will increase even more. What happens if they get a weapon in their hands? Resignedly go to Ukraine? I doubt.
  29. +1
    April 24 2022 18: 52
    Quote: syndicalist
    Even according to the manual data of the State Statistics Committee, approximately 30 percent of the population of the Russian Federation does not support the special operation. If you announce mobilization, the number of opponents of the authorities will increase even more. What happens if they get a weapon in their hands? Resignedly go to Ukraine? I doubt.

    A state that is not even able to declare and carry out mobilization is like a "house divided in itself." and what will happen to him is known from the book of the Gospel of Matt. Whether Russia is such a home is not known. But if there is no other way out, mobilization will still have to be announced.
  30. 0
    April 24 2022 20: 32
    ... eventually this will lead to the end of Ukraine .... are there other options? ... the only question is at what cost ...
  31. -1
    April 24 2022 21: 18
    Quote: Ashes of Klaas
    Quote: certero
    Where, after all, is there any reaction to the supply of weapons by the West? So, is there anything to stop this?

    By "something" do you mean ending the war or something else?

    Anything but the needs of action, not silence or the repetition of the "everything is going according to plan" mantra.
    And then you have to believe that the people who planned such a course of the NWO are in power.
  32. 0
    April 24 2022 23: 11
    Air defense will cope, or air defense will not cope. You don't need to think about that right now. And we need to think about the fact that our worst "partners" may well present Ukraine with a gift in the form of tactical nuclear weapons. Who will gladly use it in Belgrade, for example. Of course, we will answer and take Ukraine to hell (if the eggs turn out to be strong), but who will be better off for this? It is urgently necessary to close the possibility of bringing weapons and human resources to Ukraine. To do this, you need to take control and hold the western border. Otherwise it can be very bad.
  33. 0
    April 25 2022 00: 15
    Time, time, time - the enemy must not come to his senses. The enemy must be destroyed. And whoever remembers history knows how Japan capitulated at once.
  34. 0
    April 25 2022 03: 07
    Apparently, things are heading for a big war in Europe. Britain has managed to do this twice, a third is coming. No wonder the Poles stirred, those eternal dogs of Britain. It's time for us to clean our rifles.
  35. 0
    April 25 2022 12: 30
    Here China is not yet climbing to Taiwan.

    And here - they swept away the entire Russian Spring, replaced it with a corrupt EDRO, and they begin to be surprised that this impoverished population of the LDNR cannot provide a "small victorious operation"

    The Russian spring, with the support of Russia, against the unrest in Ukraine, who believed in all sorts of papers about the inviolability of the territories, could.

    EDRO, against the neighbor who began to grow stronger, who saw poverty in the LDNR, quickly failed.

    They wrote, did not check, in one republic the parties are banned, in another, the Communists were simply not allowed to participate in the elections. And EDRO - please, broadcast on TV.
  36. 0
    April 26 2022 15: 18
    In conditions of strong air defense, the Reaper is not a tenant. Much more unpleasant are small kamikaze drones that can be delivered in large numbers
  37. 0
    1 May 2022 14: 01
    True ... But this was already necessary from the first day of the special operation .. But given the actual state of the state of the military commissariats, it will be difficult to carry out even partial mobilization. The reason? .The latest cadres in the face of military pensioners, receiving the lowest salaries among civil servants in the country, leaving ... from life .. Who is in return? As a rule, young women ... And what can they do besides personal performance? So read the military commissariats in the country more dead than alive ...

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