AK-12 as a mirror of the status quo

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For a long time I wanted to speak out and be smart, and pour out bile, express concern about "where this world is heading." I come from a family of hereditary gunsmiths. Great-grandfather was invited to the Kovrov machine-gun plant, now "OAO Plant named after V.A. Degtyarev" - "ZiD", General Fedorov among six specialists (Degtyarev, Matyashin, Chekhlov, Doronin Pyotr Nikolaevich - an engineer from Sormovo and I don’t know the others) in 1916, and almost all relatives later worked at this enterprise.

I started my career as a gunsmith in 1983 as a design engineer at the Special Design Bureau of the Kovrov Mechanical Plant (KMZ). KMZ is a former branch of ZiD, which has become an independent enterprise. In this team then worked: A. A. Zaitsev - head of the Special Design Bureau (who at one time helped M. T. Kalashnikov in creating an assault rifle, A. S. Konstantinov (yes, the same one), G. S. Garanin - one of the closest associates V. A. Degtyareva.



At that time, work was in full swing on creating an automaton with balanced automation, the theme "Abakan", the variant that was being tested, was developed and conducted by B. A. Garev and V. V. Spiridonov, who subsequently managed to bring this work to a victorious end - the adoption into service with the 6P38 assault rifle. Frankly speaking, I don’t know who even proposed the “balance” scheme (there were too many options and versions), which they decided to consider true, I just don’t know.

More unpredictable science than story, I just do not know. But the first mock-up sample - a "shooter" to test the performance of the idea itself was developed by S. I. Koksharov. In parallel, the Design Bureau of V. S. Raschetnov, in which I worked, was engaged in work on the topic "Gashette" (6-mm machine gun AEK-974 ... 991), and Konstantinov worked on the creation of a 6-mm sniper - the theme "Carabiner".

I remember the working atmosphere of that time. I remember how, as a young specialist who had just joined the team and barely settled in the workplace, they immediately explained to me that an institute diploma is only an admission to training in a profession, and that even the knowledge that more experienced colleagues will give me is just a step, facilitating self-learning and protecting to some extent from the urge to “step on the same rake”, because no training can replace one’s own experience, and there are a lot of rakes that a person’s foot has not yet set foot on and will be enough for the whole a life.

They taught conscientiously - they prepared a colleague with whom it would be possible to work together and not be ashamed to leave instead of themselves as their student and successor. By the way, no matter how incredible it sounds now, but the mentors boasted to each other about the success of their wards. I don’t remember a case where at least one of my questions in my specialty was ignored, but no one built a know-it-all out of himself, this was considered a sign of amateurism.

From time to time I hear "I know everything about the SPV, what is there to know?" Weapon it's impossible not to "know" if you're even just interested in them. The vast majority of well-designed samples are so simple and logical in structure that even a monkey pulled off a branch by the tail will know it within the limits necessary for use after an hour of practice. After all, anyone will understand the kinematics of the work of three pieces of iron. But the devil is in the details, and being able to design weapons is by no means the same as "knowing" them. There are a lot of designers, and there are significantly fewer samples adopted for service.

I remember how Konstantinov (I was attached to him to draw drawings of his "Carabiner"), examining the bolt carrier of the SVD, racked his and my head to the heap:

- Listen, what do you think, why did he (Dragunov) make the guides from below of different sizes? .. But who knows (after pumping several versions). I'll do the same, since I don't understand. And that's not enough.

Technical councils met regularly to solve certain technical problems. In addition to the permanent members of the technical council - experienced designers, they were persistently invited to "promising youth", which contributed to the cohesion of the team and helped in professional growth. At the same time, the opinions of all those present who had it were listened to, and the permanent members of the technical council were obliged to express themselves without fail. No one was afraid to freeze, all manifestations of arrogance, mockery and other obscenity were immediately suppressed by the bossy roar of expression of displeasure, with the obligatory analysis of the error.

I remember an incident at the very beginning of my career. They brought for repair a 16-gauge self-loading 1900-gauge according to Walter's patent of about XNUMX, a shaggy year of release, of a very unusual design - a short barrel stroke, a folding underbarrel tubular magazine, lever (crank-and-rod) locking and a bunch of interesting design details. It was not possible to solve the problem right off the bat, and Garanin, being not the most free designer from the main work, instructed me to figure out how this system works and why this and that detail is needed, which at first glance only interfere.

And there the shutter opened when the crank protrusion interacted with a spring-loaded wedge in the receiver wall when the barrel moved forward, and this was with a short barrel stroke. Typically, such an algorithm of operation is characteristic of systems with a long stroke of the barrel, which, probably, misled senior colleagues. What to do, stereotypes are a by-product of experience, and it is not always possible to remember this in time. Garanin listened to me, immediately brought me to the office of the head of the Special Design Bureau and asked me to repeat the report. After that, I was entrusted with independent work on the development of one of the options for a machine gun on the topic "Trigger".

Was in SKB, etc. a museum where all shooters were kept: foreign, old, ancient, modern, experimental - especially for the study of designers. And then came the restructuring. The topics were closed, there was talk of conversion, the head of the SKB was replaced. After some time, the new leader gathered the team and said that the team could now expel unnecessary workers from themselves and divide their salaries among themselves - he lied, by the way, subtly hinting at the same time, at working pensioners.

The team, and the majority are always draftsmen, "also a designer" and other staff - mostly ladies, quickly got their bearings "and at the general meeting of the team, by open vote" quickly formed a new composition of the Design Bureau, in which there was no place for A. A. Zaitsev, A. S. Konstantinov, G. S. Garanin, V. V. Degtyarev, V. S. Vladimirov. I did not understand then where these people pulling their hands up suddenly came from. OK. I just realized late that in the new paradigm, the concept of “colleague”, I don’t even say “our partner”, means, first of all, “competitor”, and this is putting it mildly.

What followed was a long history of survival. The nine-year epic of "Kashtan" AEK-919 (919K) (lead designer P. A. Sedov, unfortunately, left us very early), which turned out to be of little demand, was completed under another head of the SKB -A. P. Isakov, an excellent leader and a good person, under whom some traditions of the SKB were partially revived. The submachine gun seemed to be a very simple product, which, as it seemed, could be easily and quickly designed on the basis of the Steyer MPi-69 and mastered by production - yeah, now, that's why it was decided to develop it on its own.

Under Isakov, it was revived (with the participation of the director of the RNIITM by the head of the department of "Mechanical Engineering" of the KFVPI M. A. Tarasov) and the project of an automatic machine with balanced automation, developed on the basis of the Abakan project, was basically implemented, however, the machine acquired its final form already at ZiD , where SKB KMZ was transferred after the conversion of KMZ in 2006. There, finally, the 40-year epic of the development and promotion of "balance" ended. In 1999, I was transferred to the SPKB - a special design bureau "ZiDa".

This team, headed for 17 years by A. Ya. Kurzenkov, during the period of his leadership developed and put into production two samples of loose barrels (actually large-caliber self-loading rifles) for training firing from tank guns, a 12,7-mm Kord machine gun, a 12,7-mm sniper rifle by V.I. within the scope of the conversion.

I want to note that this was done in very difficult conditions. Those who worked in the 90s will understand me. That is, the unit worked quite effectively, but in 2004, as a result of a structural reform, the design departments of the enterprise were merged. Moreover, in fact, the SPKB was merged into the OGK - the department of the chief designer. Attempts of this kind have been made before, including on the ZiDe - always unsuccessful.

Sooner or later they returned to the previous structural scheme. For many managers, the difference between the designers of OGK, whose main task is to support serial production, SPKB and SKB - the development and launch of new products, is not entirely clear. And there is always a temptation to combine, cut down and achieve savings with the same efficiency due to more flexible personnel maneuvers. In fact, the staff (from management to the last executor) of the design department of new developments and the support department differ radically. Not only the specifics of knowledge and work experience, but also mentally.

For a designer working to support products in production, each new product is a headache and an additional burden. For a developer - the meaning of his life. There is even a certain professional ... well, no, not antipathy, but I don’t know what to call it. A certain alienation - a misunderstanding or something. Well, God bless him. As a result of the merger of the design departments, a design and development center, PKC, was obtained. The former main customer of the enterprise was put at the head. After the completion of this event, the superstructure - the number of leadership and apparatus, according to my estimates, doubled, but the number of designers was slightly reduced.

I want to draw attention to the role of the manager in the design department, and, probably, in any other structural division of the enterprise. A team of the same employees can behave and work in completely different ways. With a normal, decent person (who is decent, and not just looks like him), normal working and human relations are formed and dominated in the team. There is a normal working process.

A competent leader is able to evaluate technical solutions and knows the capabilities of his subordinates. There are no universal workers. Someone better than others pushes ideas, someone pumps them, someone “drags”, someone finishes, works with production or with a customer. No, of course, any design engineer should be able to do this, but someone does this or that part of the work better than others. A normal manager takes all this into account when forming working groups and slicing tasks, that is, when organizing a workflow.

At a minimum, he must have experience in his specialty, know the strengths and weaknesses of his subordinates, and be able to manage the process. However, quite often, and especially lately, when there is a change of leadership in a team, favoritism, rat-keeping and other pathologies suddenly become the norm of behavior. Sometimes even people who are well-deserved and respected for business qualities or past merits suddenly turn (or show their true essence?) into non-handshake freaks, and instead of work that they safely bring down, they begin to grab, bite, squeeze et cetera. In general, "we were born to make a fairy tale an obituary."

Well, as, in fact, and always, the time has passed. When I left the enterprise, the chief designer with quiet pride uttered a phrase that was not entirely clear to me: “Look at what is happening.” On the machine, without having time to think from surprise (well, that is, I blurted out), I asked: “What, in fact, is happening? What was adopted under Kurzenkov (in service), then it is produced.

Although it was impossible to say that nothing happened at all. Yet some people who had never worked as designers suddenly became major inventors. There was even a rather high-profile and protracted scandal with the much-usual chief financier of the enterprise about this. There were other oddities of the same order. What else happened? Nerekhta flashed by, the pilot production of the PKC practically died, and things in the 1st production became very bad. This is for 18 years.

Why am I telling this? It's just that, as far as I've heard from colleagues from other enterprises in our industry, to one degree or another, something similar, I mean intellectual and material losses, happened almost everywhere. Though probably not nearly so.

And now, forced to contemplate from the outside the action taking place in the current paradigm, I managed to talk on a very original and fresh topic about ... AK-12. It’s just that I somehow participated in the work on AEK-971, was aware of comparative tests with the first, still Zlobinsky, sample, I had seen enough pictures and videos on the net, and it seems to me that I have something to say. Where to begin?

But I’m watching a video, and there are guys in a fashionable outfit (no, I won’t dig into the outfit, and in general I’m tired of scoffing - both cheerful anger and some stiffness of thought are gone), demonstrating the machine gun, twitching the shutter with their left hand with some kind of subtly verified and obviously trained by years of hard work movement, holding the machine gun by the fire control handle with the right. This is what athletes do. But the AK-12 is a combined arms weapon. And the difference in the shooting and special training of a motorized rifleman, a special forces soldier and an athlete cannot be leveled, either for economic or for any other reasons. That is, in fact, they all need their own weapons.

In general, remembering the 90s and 2000s, when we, the designers, were trying to understand what kind of weapons would be in demand by the army, and create at least some groundwork for the post-apocalypse (read - trying to do our job), I understand what a mistake we did. Then in the army there was not much to talk to, and the special forces were constantly involved and, as they say now, are in trend. And we talked mainly with special forces soldiers, and the mistake was that at that time we not only took into account their wishes and experience, which is certainly correct, but also automatically extended them to the main users of combined arms weapons. Not only are special forces soldiers individual, like specialists, and they are allowed to be individuals, but they have a completely different level of training, and the training itself, like weapons and equipment, is tailored for other, special tasks.

Consider, for example, the algorithm of the AR AK reloading process, taking into account the fact that the average fighter replaces the magazine after all the cartridges in it are used up.

The AR platform is M-16, M-4 and their countless clones. The weapon is held with the right hand by the fire control handle. The butt is clamped under the arm or pressed against the forearm. The weapon is given an elevation angle at which the magazine shaft is approximately at eye level, allowing you to combine control over the reloading process (you never know a branch will hit the magazine shaft window) with observation of the battlefield, at the same time the magazine latch key is pressed with the index finger of the right hand, while the magazine should fall out of the mine. The equipped magazine is attached with the left hand and the shutter delay key is pressed.

The process of loading the weapon is different in that after the magazine is attached, it is necessary to pull back to the stop and release the reloading handle, by the way, it is inconvenient to do this with any hand because of its specific location - close to the shooter's face and, since there is a risk of moving parts not reaching the extreme forward position due to the fact that the reloading handle increases their weight, not weakly adds friction, and even in the extreme forward position overcomes the resistance of the spring of its latch, it is recommended with the thumb of the right hand by pressing the shutter rammer key (as this node is called correctly, I have never been interested), located on the right side of the receiver, make sure that the moving parts have come to the extreme forward position or send them there.

And now the Kalashnikov assault rifle. We, schoolchildren, were still a military instructor-motorized rifleman, a retired major in the lessons of the NVP (initial military training) taught: the machine gun is held by the forearm with the left hand, we change the store with the right. After adjoining the store, we transfer our hand to the cocking handle - it is nearby, and we take it back to the stop, then, sharply releasing the handle and, as it were, continuing the movement of the hand, we transfer it to the fire control handle, simultaneously throwing the machine gun to the shoulder. That is, reloading is carried out with a strong hand (about left-handers in the SA, and at one time in the USSR, they did not know anything, as, indeed, in the USA).

I deliberately omit the manipulation of the fuse in both systems, although manipulating it in AR is still more convenient. As you can see, in both cases there are no far-fetched movements, everything is logical and rational, with reliable control of the weapon while holding it, although I also read Andrei Cruz, and in general I try to be in trend. The differences are primarily due to the approach to using the store and the design of the cocking mechanisms. AR stores in combat conditions were planned to be considered disposable.

AK magazines were never considered such, so they are not thrown away, but replaced and reloaded when the situation allows. They fit more accurately and firmly in the receiver, are more reliable in operation, are stronger (used even in hand-to-hand combat), eliminate errors in attachment and, according to one American tester, despite more complex manipulations, “always attach”. Here are the “more complex manipulations”, as well as the lack of a shutter stop and, as a result, the need to pull the “cock” - the reload handle each time, and make it preferable to replace the magazine with a strong hand.

When testing samples of small arms in difficult operating conditions (“five days”, dust, frost), the force on the cocking handle is necessarily measured, and, you can believe me, keeping within the norm of 16 kg is not a child’s task, because the soldier is not always in good condition. physical form (he can be injured), and the conditions for using weapons are sometimes far from ideal. I once watched a TV program about how the VVs passed the exam for maroon berets. One of the fighters went through everything and at the finish line he couldn’t even cock a machine gun from his foot, and this is a Kalash. For the same reason, we do not use the shutter delay mechanism in our assault rifles, despite all the convenience of using this device, because during tests in the dust chamber, when replacing the magazine, so much dust is filled through the open extraction window that the weapon “flies” from tests.

I am not digging, I am simply emphasizing the purpose of this sample and the conditions of operation and combat use arising from this purpose, which determine its design. But a well-trained experienced fighter does not finish shooting the magazine and changes it as soon as the situation allows, places it in the pouch with the neck up and fills it up at every convenient moment. That's when the store changes with the left hand, the cartridge is in the chamber, and you don’t need to pull the cock.

And now about some misunderstandings in the design of the AK-12 assault rifle. Hm. It turns out long. Then about it in the next article.
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  1. +20
    April 18 2022 04: 48
    The author mentioned Andrei Cruz (God rest him). I myself recently discovered (on the recommendation of a friend) this extraordinary writer. Too bad there aren't many of his works. I recommend to read.
    1. +22
      April 18 2022 05: 16
      "Time of the Dead" both branches, and the American one is even more interesting, "People of the Great River" and maybe "Land of the Superfluous", the rest is rather weak. But these three cycles are enough!

      AR stores in combat conditions were planned to be considered disposable.
      It turns out that when Hollywood "shooters" scatter stores, it's not so stupid?

      The article is great!
      1. +23
        April 18 2022 13: 38
        Only aluminum from Vietnam times. Steel STANAGs and later any plastic like Magpul's P-MAGs are far from being disposable and "brave GIs" are not scattered by them. The disposability of the "Vietnamese" stores was explained by the fact that the case made of soft thin-walled metal is easy to deform and the sponges will hold the cartridges poorly, crookedly, which is fraught with under-delivery pokes and other double feeds. In a combat situation, of course, stores were re-equipped to the state of "jo" because new ones were not always brought up. STANAG steel magazines and plastic ones are spared from this, they are quite strong.
        The M-16 rifle was generally a fiasco of marketers: it was purchased by the army without accessories for cleaning, because some "genius of commerce" decided that if the barrel was chrome-plated inside, then it was not necessary to clean the rifle, the cartridges were loaded instead of "clean" commercial gunpowder (with which weapons in tests showed the reliability necessary for the army) with all sorts of shit taken from the warehouses of the Second World War (the Pentagon "ensign" decided reasonably judging: "There is nothing good to waste"). The cartridges turned out to be very "dirty" in terms of soot, which stuck in the receiver and wedged everything.
        Modern M-4s are quite good, having gone through a long and rather bloody path of bringing them to a workable weapon. But the Americans are constantly "sick" of all sorts of contests in order to change this weapon for something else: better and more reliable. So far, all of them are "more reliable" like two or four army "M-ki" and therefore put on the shelf or fall into the hands of specialists in small quantities, as was the case with the FN SCAR MK-17, HK-416, etc.
        1. +4
          April 18 2022 13: 55
          Quote: MauZerR
          The disposability of the "Vietnamese" stores was explained by the fact that the case made of soft thin-walled metal is easy to deform and the sponges will hold the cartridges badly, crookedly, which is fraught with under-delivery poking and other double feed

          Expanded and interesting! Thank you.
          1. +13
            April 18 2022 14: 03
            I will add that the tapping of the magazine on the helmet, which has already become a byword, appeared precisely from aluminum magazines for 20 rounds. A light hit lined up the cartridges more or less evenly, which reduced the likelihood of a "double feed" (double serve). As well as pressing the "forward assist" (rammer) button after closing the shutter, especially after immersing the weapon in water. He got out of the water, pulled back the shutter a little so that the water would flow out of the barrel, let it go and pressed it with an assist.
            1. +1
              1 July 2022 11: 16
              Bravo, very informative.
    2. -1
      April 18 2022 05: 20
      "read Andrey Cruz and was a deep economy."
      He wrote interestingly, but in fact he was a huckster :)
    3. +8
      April 18 2022 11: 02
      Read Andrew, and read with great pleasure. Like you, I regret that he left so early.

      Many thanks to the author for a professional and interesting article. good
    4. +3
      April 18 2022 18: 02
      Quote: andrewkor
      The author mentioned Andrei Cruz (God rest him). I myself recently discovered (on the recommendation of a friend) this extraordinary writer. Too bad there aren't many of his works. I recommend to read.

      On the "Age of the Dead" there is a fanfic of books for 40-50. Some of it is unreadable due to the blood pouring from the eyes, but in part it is quite decent, no worse than the original and adds parallel lines to it. Search on the trackers "Worlds of Andrey Cruz" or "Cruz fb2", something like that.
  2. KCA
    +22
    April 18 2022 05: 00
    Left-handers, left-handers, this is now a time of tolerance, and in Soviet times, left-handers were very much taught to use their right hand, so they were rather ambidexters, my brother is left-handed, but he writes with his right, shoots with his right and does not experience any inconvenience, a carbine was bought from him in America for very serious money, there probably was a model for left-handers, but he is already comfortable
    1. +17
      April 18 2022 06: 32
      I'm left-handed, in training, by the way, gunsmiths, I already got a discharge in shooting. Neither the company commander, nor the squad leader, there was no platoon then, did not object to the left hand, the result was excellent.
      But somehow, at a training shooting, and the gunsmiths were in the "field" twice a week, one of the top commanders scolded the company commander and me, forbidding to shoot from the left.
      Of course, on the right, I shot extremely badly. But after a couple of shootings, he steadily reached "5".
      So now I can shoot with two hands.
      Yes, I was retrained for school - to the right hand, but all "manual manipulations", in life, I do with my left hand, until now.
      By the way, in the army there was a problem with this, with combat grenade throwing, I couldn’t right ...
      1. +16
        April 18 2022 07: 27
        And I have vision in childhood "fell." Moreover, the right eye is stronger than the left. At the same time, my father advised me to try to shoot a gun like a left-hander.
        It turned out even more interesting at the military school - I couldn’t shoot from the PM! Milk at its best! Then the lieutenant colonel dealt with me individually. To begin with, he ordered me to forget all the instructions and take a comfortable stance "for myself." I wake up. It was not beautiful, "not a picture", but I was comfortable. Then the manager noticed my vision problem and offered to change my hand. From the left, I started to hit the target. The best result (though only once) is 27 out of 30.

        And thanks to the author - interesting. Only now a funny hitch came out for a long time I could not understand what kind of weapon this was packing machine - "cottage cheese" ... Then I realized that this is a civilian product! laughing
        1. +4
          April 18 2022 11: 05
          I had the same problem - my right eye saw (and sees, of course) worse than the left, but when I fired a pistol, I shot with my right hand, but aimed with my left eye. There were no problems, although with a long barrel this number would not have worked, of course.
    2. +2
      April 18 2022 06: 32
      I'm right-handed, but shoot with both hands, not ambidextrous.
  3. 0
    April 18 2022 05: 01
    Good article. I was always interested in the delay, although what for on the m-16 the rammer sticking out to the side knew. But about the mine did not understand. With a mine, it’s more convenient to hit the store
    1. +16
      April 18 2022 05: 22
      And it is more convenient for her to collect garbage :)

      As for jerking the shutter or removing the shutter lag, which is better? Seems like a delay. But...
      American soldiers are taught to automatism before inserting the store to knock them on the cash register to shake the cartridges, even poetry has a sequence of actions when reloading.
      Kalash does not need this, when the bolt goes back, he hits the upper cartridge with a protrusion and shakes it.
      Such is the nuance
      1. +7
        April 18 2022 16: 03
        Quote: kytx
        Kalash does not need this, when the bolt goes back, he hits the upper cartridge with a protrusion and shakes it. Such is the nuance

        Kalashnikov has such a feature. But it is rarely mentioned. I saw a lot of videos about the work of the AK in the context, but I saw shaking the cartridges in the store in only one.
        It seems primitive, but there is an increase in the reliability of the supply of ammunition.
        1. +4
          April 18 2022 20: 14
          Kalash is all made up of such chips.
          1. IVZ
            +5
            April 18 2022 20: 43
            Kalash hits the cartridge with the feed lug of the bolt after the lower part of the bolt carrier comes off the cartridge and the cartridge rises slightly. This is not a virtue, but rather the opposite, and they tried to level this moment as much as possible. And AK magazines work fine without shaking.
            1. +2
              April 18 2022 23: 45
              Quote: IVZ
              And AK magazines work great without shaking.

              Not a weapons specialist. Generally. But, I suppose shaking the cartridge in the store is far from superfluous. I outline the situation: in the evening it was very damp, and frost hit in the morning. Wet cartridges in the store may well grab to the walls and among themselves. Without shaking the cartridges to break the tack, there may not be enough spring force to feed the cartridge. Situevina hypothetical, but, I believe, quite real.
              1. IVZ
                +1
                April 19 2022 18: 35
                Any weapon needs at least minimal maintenance and testing before use. If you ignore this, no shaking will save you. Another thing is shaking 29 rounds in the magazine, and this is 300-500 grams inside 3kg. machine guns will not have the best effect on a bunch of both automatic and single fire.
                1. +2
                  April 20 2022 11: 52
                  Quote: IVZ
                  Any weapon needs at least minimal maintenance and testing before use. If you ignore this, no shaking will save you. Another thing is shaking 29 rounds in the magazine, and this is 300-500 grams inside 3kg. machine guns will not have the best effect on a bunch of both automatic and single fire.

                  I agree completely about the need to care for weapons. But I can’t imagine the constant re-equipment of stores with wiping cartridges. Shaking a dozen rounds in the magazine will obviously not affect accuracy in the best way. But ... It will not affect the first shot in any way. When firing bursts, AKs have enough other destabilizing factors, incl. how much shaking will affect accuracy is another question. The design of the AK was "licked" for a very long time (Malimon described it in sufficient detail), incl. there is no excess in AK. If there is a shake function, then it is needed.
                  I repeat, I am not at all special in weapons, and everything I have described is the opinion of an amateur, but the opinion, from my point of view, is quite logical.
                  1. IVZ
                    0
                    April 20 2022 12: 19
                    Yes you are right . if there is a function, it is needed. But only if it is a function.
                    1. IVZ
                      0
                      April 20 2022 14: 15
                      And by the way, I apologize for a bunch of single fire. You are absolutely right. Lied.
                  2. +1
                    April 22 2022 13: 03
                    Quote: tolancop
                    But I can’t imagine the constant re-equipment of stores with wiping cartridges.

                    And it has to. Zaripov did a good job of describing weapon cleaning in the Afghan desert. Including the constant re-equipment of stores.
                    In the desert, the military ritual of cleaning weapons becomes an almost daily event. After all, the unceasing wind constantly throws all of us with the smallest sand, which clogs in all the cracks ....

                    ... each fighter should once a day completely discharge all his magazines from cartridges. At the same time, ammunition is poured either into a soldier's hat with earflaps, or into a Panama dash cap. Then you can start dismantling the store itself. To do this, it is necessary to disconnect the bottom plate-retainer from the body, after which the spring hidden inside will slip out by itself. Moreover, together with plastic things and dryuchki fixed at both ends. That is, a bottom plug and an upper cartridge pusher. Now you can start caring for the cartridges and parts of the disassembled magazine. There are significantly fewer jobs here than with a whole machine gun. Almost nothing should be lubricated with oil. But the presence of sand should be paid special attention. After all, it shouldn't be here.

                    http://artofwar.ru/z/zaripow_a/text_0550-1.shtml
                    1. +1
                      April 22 2022 14: 29
                      Mordvin 3 (Vladimir), convinced. But I just noted that I am an amateur. He served in the army and held a machine gun in his hands, but .... very rarely, and shot only once in 2 years. And then he was deprived of ammunition :): instead of the prescribed 9 rounds (3 single + 3 bursts of 2 rounds each), he received only 7. He shot the last one, how many rounds were left, they gave that much, and no one opened the zinc because of 2 rounds, of course, not became. Which does not negate my conviction that AK has no extra functions.
      2. +3
        April 18 2022 22: 57
        No shutter delay needed. It creates a second option for sending a cartridge into the chamber, so the shooter has to decide each time how to send a cartridge now: to twitch the shutter or press the delay button (lever)? That is, the automatism of reloading disappears.
        Watch the video of the American infantryman and mariner's competition in Iraq to reload the M4. First, both carefully looked at the position of their delay button. Steel in the rack "ready to run". One of them looked at the delay button again. And looked again! And this is just the excitement of the competition, and in the stress of the battle...
        The shutter lag on the PM has always bothered me. You work with AK without even thinking - your hands do everything themselves. And with the PM, when reloading, you can never be distracted by the situation around you, you must definitely see where your shutter is, whether you need to pull it or press the shutter delay button. This shutter delay interferes. It also complicates the design of the weapon.
        1. +1
          April 19 2022 15: 49
          The PM is removed from the delay in the same way as with the usual sending of a cartridge into the barrel: pull it back, the stroke is only an order of magnitude less.
        2. 0
          23 June 2022 17: 34
          I disagree, the shutter lag is very convenient .. complicates the design? Not really...
      3. 0
        April 26 2022 04: 27
        About the "shutter goes back" - to the very point!
  4. AK 12, a lot of questions for him. Some kind of discrediting the Kalashnikov name in general.
  5. +14
    April 18 2022 05: 09
    At the most interesting point!
    Thank you!
  6. +1
    April 18 2022 05: 16
    About lefties.
    There are no left-handers in Japan, they are severely retrained in childhood, I think this is right.
    1. 0
      April 19 2022 14: 34
      Quote: kytx
      About lefties.
      There are no left-handers in Japan, they are severely retrained in childhood, I think this is right.

      It's just not right, let's just say, it's against nature! Have you read anything about the specialization of the cerebral hemispheres?!
      1. 0
        April 20 2022 00: 20
        Statutory teeth, heart surgery, antibiotics are also against nature?
        Chotarju
        1. 0
          April 22 2022 13: 12
          Quote: kytx
          Statutory teeth

          Do you already have to do teeth according to the charter?
          1. 0
            April 23 2022 09: 16
            Predictive input corrected me.
            But I like your way of thinking! laughing
  7. +11
    April 18 2022 05: 19
    Even at the demonstration training ground in Kubinka, a bunch of "specialists" divorced, who parroted the left-handed reloading with a twist. And how many blochers ....
    1. +2
      April 18 2022 05: 50
      In military service, I never worried about which hand is closer, with which it is more convenient, and the one reloaded the machine gun. Main barrel up and finger off the trigger. Although, as a right-hander, he did more often with the right.
      1. +7
        April 18 2022 06: 23
        Lying, much more comfortable with the right, on the left side
      2. +6
        April 18 2022 10: 32
        Put your finger in the AK trigger - you have to try.
      3. +2
        April 18 2022 13: 56
        And how do you put your finger on the trigger in the AK if it is in the receiver?
  8. +8
    April 18 2022 05: 26
    It is a common thing in any production, who has not seen such a thing in factories for a long time. "Optimization" of OTC controllers is just worth something.
    The quality of the team depends very much on the quality of the leader, it would seem that the same people ...
    And man is an animal, social, but an animal. Sociality only exacerbates, because. society strongly influences behavior.
    You look later (in the mirror :) ) and wonder how we worked together for so many years and seemed like a decent person.
    1. IVZ
      0
      April 23 2022 18: 24
      Excuse me, but a person differs from an animal precisely in the ability to suppress animal instincts and act in accordance with his upbringing, beliefs, etc.
      1. 0
        April 23 2022 19: 17
        I'll forgive :)

        I believe that the expression social / social animal means that "animal" relations are transferred to relations in society / society.
        In dogs / wolves, by the way, relations in the camp, although simpler than human ones, are clearer.

        Yes, and I have seen enough at the factories - the team stands up for a fool and a lazy person, but their own, but turns a blind eye to the oppression of strangers, no matter how wonderful they are. In private conversations, everyone agrees, yes, Vaska is an alcoholic, he should be driven out, but Petrovich is a good man, intelligent.
        But Vaska is local, and Petrovich is from the Varangians.
        1. IVZ
          +1
          April 23 2022 19: 52
          You are right, unfortunately, but people need to remain Well, at least someone. Sorry for the banality - you have to start with yourself. That drunkard will not become a teetotaler and will perish in the end thanks to his godfathers, and this team will not gain anything from its decision. Although “Petrovich” from this is not easier, but on the other hand, it is still better to stay away from such a team.
  9. -1
    April 18 2022 05: 43
    In parallel, the Design Bureau of V. S. Raschetnov, in which I worked, was engaged in work on the topic "Gashette" (6-mm machine gun AEK-974 ... 991), and Konstantinov worked on the creation of a 6-mm sniper - the theme "Carabiner".

    It is a pity that the 6-mm cartridge and weapons for it were not accepted into service.
    1. 0
      April 18 2022 12: 43
      Thank God that they didn’t accept it, it’s frankly weak for a machine gun, neither this nor that for a sniper, but it eats rifling like it’s in itself
      1. IVZ
        +1
        April 19 2022 18: 40
        : The 6mm cartridge was developed to increase the effective range of a machine gun from 800m to 1000m. Those. in any case, it is not weaker than the regular one. But there were enough problems with him with the tenacity of the trunks, incl.
    2. 0
      April 18 2022 23: 03
      "It is a pity that the 6-mm cartridge and weapons for it were not accepted into service."
      Perhaps they will. Americans. According to the NGSW program, they have a cartridge with approximately the same bullet speed - about 1080 m / s.
  10. +6
    April 18 2022 05: 50
    Light syllable.
  11. +6
    April 18 2022 05: 51
    Very interesting. Thank you. Looking forward to continuing
  12. -3
    April 18 2022 06: 23
    In general, the machine was tested in the army and even took part in the hostilities in some places. The reviews are very good, the shortcomings were eliminated quickly, they wrote about it. And the jealousy of the former designers, for the technology created not by you and better in quality, is well known. Yes, and about my own, in my old age, at least I want to remind you somehow.
    1. 0
      1 July 2022 11: 21
      You are a brave person, to say this on this resource is to catch all the minuses from the elderly, annoyed gentlemen who are the main consumers of the content. Talk about the fact that when they were young, then ...... in short, everything was better.)))))))
  13. +15
    April 18 2022 06: 38
    Very good article! Many thanks to the author, the topic is extremely close to me as a once army gunsmith.
    With the Ak-12, of course, many, many years after the service, I managed to get acquainted and ... shoot.
    I have my own opinion, although I will not get ahead of the author.
    But in the manner of shooting, he was also surprised, like the author. I got the impression that the same postulates are imposed on the AK as on the M-16, but the structure of the weapon varies greatly.
  14. -2
    April 18 2022 07: 24
    several options for packaging machines - "cottage cheese" and industrial sewing machines, developed and put into production as part of the conversion.


    Generally speaking, non-weapon design work and orders should be strived with all our might in any design bureau. And it is necessary to initially work with such orders not within the country, but at once all over the world. Then there will be no problems with what to feed the team, since there is always a flow of orders for the development of all kinds of machines and mechanisms from all over the world.
    Architectural, design bureaus and workshops, sculptors and artists, for example, work precisely on the scale of the entire planet, and this has always been the case. The same Kremlin was built by the Italians - "Varangians" at one time, in the history of Russia there are many buildings left by foreigners - they are in almost every city.
    1. IVZ
      +6
      April 18 2022 20: 47
      From my point of view, everyone should do what he can do. The exception is innovative projects when creativity matters.
      1. -1
        April 18 2022 22: 05
        Then, most likely, the team of specialists and its material and technical base will be lost. Economic sharp shocks are relatively short-lived (several months or years) and it is more profitable to temporarily do everything in a row than to close and go to the stock exchange. This already happened in the 90s, when they tried to close everything, instead of temporarily not working out non-core but in demand immediately.
        As a result, now there are no industries and organizations that could easily survive then with such a simple economic strategy.
        Now the economy is again being tested for strength and those who can enter the external world markets with the most unusual and non-core solutions, with a lot of them, these highly demanded solutions, will survive. When the pandemic began, for example, it turned out that ventilators, production lines for masks and disinfectants were urgently and massively needed - and now there is something like that.
      2. 0
        April 18 2022 23: 30
        Quote: IVZ
        From my point of view, everyone should do what he can do.

        Ideally, with planned management of the economy, it is. \ But when the "bony hand of the market" commands the economy, you need to have "diversification" in your products in case of failure in the auction / competition for the main production. At the same time, I think that in the latest decisions on the adoption of AK and AEK, one can guess the desire to give work to both design bureaus, if only in order to maintain competition, a competitive spirit, t.s. But this is my guess without any factual basis. So, thinking aloud ... I also agree that in the economic system changed after 1991 in the country, the number of contractual and finance-economic units is often much larger than the engineering and technical departments of the main production units.
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  15. +4
    April 18 2022 08: 16
    A competent and detailed article by a professional who worked in a respectable office in troubled times. I found a lot of things similar in the actions of the leadership, I also worked and still work in a reputable office. Respect to the author for the article. I look forward to continuing.
  16. +11
    April 18 2022 08: 21
    The article is just awesome. It describes exactly what's going on right now. In the motor industry, the situation is even worse. The mentoring system in design bureaus has been virtually destroyed. As they say: "Thanks to Boris Nikolayevich and all his effectively-competent liberals for the pogrom perpetrated in mechanical engineering and in general the entire industry."
    1. IVZ
      +2
      April 19 2022 19: 26
      Or rather the whole country.
      1. Aag
        0
        April 19 2022 22: 52
        Quote: IVZ
        Or rather the whole country.

        "More precisely, the whole country" (((.

        Many thanks for the article, - it seems, - without even touching the AK-12 construct (we are waiting ... let me blurt out in advance - they didn’t take at all what they wanted, about which they didn’t sleep at night, what the Designer (s) sought).
        You "won" at least positive emotions, the location of the old-timers of the forum (technical, weapon-kinematic part of it ... hi This is worth a lot (not expressed in "pros"). However, - what am I talking about (?) - A person is older, wiser, more experienced, regarding the affected area) ...
        Looking forward to continuing! hi
  17. +9
    April 18 2022 09: 00
    And so everywhere! The dominance of effective pads raping specialists of all profiles! A normal person will not survive in this mud, that's why the specialists left to work for themselves! And at this time of total stupidity, when it became clear that money does not solve everything, and independent specialists are in demand! Honor and praise to the man of labor!
    1. Aag
      0
      April 21 2022 23: 59
      "...the time of complete stupidity, when it became clear that money does not solve everything, and independent specialists are in demand!...“
      Not new, but - still acutely relevant !!!!
      And, - further in the text, - I strongly agree ... Only ... Do something what? To correct the situation. feel
      1. 0
        April 22 2022 17: 36
        Do it very early! The situation should be intelligibly brought to the maximum number, that is, it should mature in the minds, and everything else then ...
        1. +1
          April 25 2022 09: 15
          The idea will mature in a small layer of truly educated people. It will not be backed up by resources and will perish in vain. In any business, the loyalty of people is important. And the current ideology is aimed at dividing and obtaining petty benefits.
  18. +6
    April 18 2022 09: 18
    Very interesting. Design nuances and requirements for structures. And the issue of leadership and relationships in the team are traditional for the post-Soviet space. Management incompetence is almost like a tradition.
  19. +3
    April 18 2022 10: 40
    Hello, Igor (unfortunately, I don’t know your patronymic)!
    Very interesting article! You, no doubt, have the gift of a writer: "a rake ...", "an army of designers" and about the meaning of a developer's life - these are just finds!
    This is rarely the case for venerable authors, but here it’s just a scattering!
    Have you tried writing prose? - I think you can...
    1. IVZ
      +7
      April 18 2022 20: 32
      Hello. Vasilevich. Thank you for rating the opus. This is my first posting experience.
  20. +2
    April 18 2022 10: 43
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    for a long time I could not understand what kind of weapon such a packaging machine - "cottage cheese"

    This is a non-lethal weapon: it blinds the enemy with curd cheeses, a cheese gun, in a scientific way. laughing
  21. +7
    April 18 2022 11: 12
    These "left hand pullers" always surprised me. If you look - it looks cool, but it has no practical meaning. The change of the store must take place in a place protected from fire. At the same time, the fighter is emotionally and physically discharged for those 10 seconds from the combat situation. Otherwise, fatigue will come very quickly. And the left-handed jerks continue to stand motionless on their feet and think only about how to drain the BC faster. It's not a fight - it's a sport.
  22. -3
    April 18 2022 11: 19
    And here's something I didn't like. Especially the thought about the vast majority of well-designed samples that are so simple and logical in design. This inexplicable desire for simplicity, in everything and everywhere, is one of the most unpleasant features of modernity and the recent past. Every time this very simplicity is mentioned, to the point and out of place, it becomes uncomfortable.
    Isn't it because of this, the desire for simplicity, that the handle to the forearm on the AK was not attached for several decades? Although it appeared immediately on the Romanian sample.
    1. IVZ
      +6
      April 18 2022 19: 38
      Sorry, but the handle on the forearm does not complicate the design of the weapon in any way. Of course, I understand the Romanians - an indisputable role model. But could you find some other combined-arms model with a evdakim device, not tuned by special equipment for assault operations or marketers for staged filming, but ... well, you understand. By the way, the Thompson PP had such a handle - it left in its army version.
      1. -1
        April 18 2022 21: 03
        I didn’t understand anything, so why couldn’t a handle be made on the forearm? Because the Romanians are an indisputable role model?
        1. +1
          April 18 2022 23: 08
          Because the handle on the forearm:
          1) raises the submachine gunner above the parapet (shelter), exposing the enemy to fire;
          2) gives greater fluctuations when aiming than a grip on the forearm from below.
          1. 0
            April 19 2022 07: 17
            When shooting from the parapet, the store interferes, no need to try to look for at least something.
            1. -1
              17 November 2022 19: 32
              Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
              When firing from the parapet, the store interferes,

              Move a little back and the store no longer interferes. But you can’t move the handle on the forearm like that, the forearm should lie on the parapet (in the palm of your hand on the parapet).
  23. +3
    April 18 2022 12: 10
    Yesterday I watched a video on YouTube from Razvedos on the topic of AK and AR-15 ...
    He says that until the year 92, the accuracy of the Ak74M was very decent, as was the quality of the metal.
    Now it has worsened.
    1. 0
      April 18 2022 12: 51
      Since the author called himself a hereditary gunsmith, I want to ask him a few questions as an amateur from weapons business
      1 heard a lot about balanced automation based on a gear rack and gear, (this was invented to increase the accuracy of automatic fire) it is believed that the movement of the mass of the gear rack can compensate for the toss of the machine caused by the torques arising from accelerations of other masses of the moving parts of the shutter. Everyone who held the AK in their hands knows that these parts are not symmetrical about the axis of the barrel, neither in geometry, nor in mass, not in terms of movement dynamics, in fact, for this reason, there is a moment of rotation (tossing the machine gun up) that interferes with accurate shooting and which they are trying to compensate with a gear rack -
      The question is -
      1 gunsmiths really think that it is possible to balance the lack of symmetry in this way?
      2 from the point of view of the theory of mechanics, is it possible in principle to do this?
      3 what answer does computer simulation of the operation of such devices give?
      4 Isn't it easier for AK instead of one gas piston on top of the barrel to make two on the sides and get almost complete symmetry with respect to the vertical plane and not fence gardens with racks and gears?
      1. IVZ
        +8
        April 18 2022 19: 27
        I have now posted the second part for moderation. And the answers to your question are contained either in the third or in the fourth, where I talk in some detail about balanced automation.
      2. 0
        1 July 2022 16: 13
        According to point 4 - this is already used on special weapons (machine guns) in the MTR, but I don’t know who the manufacturer didn’t remember the name.
    2. +1
      April 18 2022 16: 54
      Unfortunately, the complaints about the current quality of barrel manufacture, compared to Soviet times, apply not only to AKs.
  24. -3
    April 18 2022 13: 02
    With all due respect, the author described the general shitty situation in all industries, but drew his resentment to her for the fact that their frank bullshit didn’t go beyond the PCB, respectively, no bonuses, and even bosses and bet
    1. +1
      April 18 2022 14: 56
      Quote: Alex Koch
      their frank bullshit

      and they definitely invented bullshit? and all the weapons geniuses and wizards, as I understand it, gathered in Izhevsk?
      1. +1
        April 18 2022 15: 37
        About IZHmekh - this is a separate conversation, also not funny, but Kovrovtsy are definitely interesting comrades
        1. 0
          April 18 2022 15: 38
          I'm talking about constructors if that
    2. IVZ
      +6
      April 18 2022 20: 36
      And we can't keep silent about the situation. Otherwise, we will sit in the warmth and spit from a great mind.
  25. +1
    April 18 2022 14: 19
    Quote: KCA
    Left-handers, left-handers, this is now a time of tolerance, and in Soviet times, left-handers were very much taught to use their right hand, so they were rather ambidexters, my brother is left-handed, but he writes with his right, shoots with his right and does not experience any inconvenience, a carbine was bought from him in America for very serious money, there probably was a model for left-handers, but he is already comfortable

    The problem of a left-hander is not tolerance, but the fact that a cartridge case flies in the face. On the M-16 with A2, a reflector appeared for this (a thick tide on the upper receiver behind the cartridge case extraction window).
    1. -1
      April 18 2022 18: 17
      The sleeve does not fly into any face. I shot from the left shoulder both in nature and through an embrasure in a BAT, only they put a reflector on the machine gun. And so there were no problems. It was believed that those who shoot from the left-eye begin to water because of the ingress of powder gases, I don’t know there were no problems.
      In general, when they received new 95 Kalash in 91. In comparison with AKSM, the first thing that caught my eye was the gas piston without grooves and not chrome-plated, the old AKSM somehow looked better. I remember conversations - the guys can rearrange the inside from the old ones, otherwise the fig knows what g it is made of, who will check it in the warehouse. But left as is.
      1. IVZ
        +4
        April 18 2022 19: 44
        The Kalashmans do not fly. But at the Arches, a tide-reflector had to be introduced.
        1. -1
          April 18 2022 20: 42
          I don't know about M-16. And for Kalash, I wrote almost the same thing.
  26. +2
    April 18 2022 14: 22
    Quote: kytx
    And it is more convenient for her to collect garbage :)

    As for jerking the shutter or removing the shutter lag, which is better? Seems like a delay. But...
    American soldiers are taught to automatism before inserting the store to knock them on the cash register to shake the cartridges, even poetry has a sequence of actions when reloading.
    Kalash does not need this, when the bolt goes back, he hits the upper cartridge with a protrusion and shakes it.
    Such is the nuance

    Rubbish can be filled with anything. But if water gets into the mine with the magazine attached and freezes, it will be possible to tear it out only with a tool.
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    2. -1
      April 18 2022 16: 42
      A couple of strong blows with something hard on the mine
      1. 0
        April 19 2022 15: 44
        HZ, there is an aluminum alloy lover, quite thick-walled and strong. If you take SCAR, there is a plastic lover, which bends better, by the way, nothing freezes there.
  27. +2
    April 18 2022 18: 43
    Thanks for the interesting story!
    The analysis is also very good.
    For a long time there were questions to ZID/KMZ specialists, but there was no way to ask.
    Can you answer?
    In general, the question is: why are all products called "Kord"? Machine gun "Kord", machine gun "Kord" ... It's a little unclear what exactly they write about sometimes. The abbreviation is understandable, but where is the individuality? Or the emphasis on the fact that these are the products of collective labor?
    And more private: the products of Stanislav Ivanovich were called quite traditionally - AEK 971/972/973/973C. Next came the A-545/762 modifications. With fantasies in the names, of course, not very much, but, in principle, it will do. But this was not all - "Automatic 6P67" Kord "or" Automatic 6P68 "Kord" ... Somehow not in the tradition of Russian gunsmiths. Probably neither Koksharov nor Konstantinov would have approved of such a name.
    1. IVZ
      +8
      April 18 2022 19: 14
      I don't like it myself. The story is like this. Kord - the abbreviation "Kovrov gunsmiths Degtyarevtsy" - the name was originally coined for the 12,7 machine gun. I don't know who, but I can check if you're interested. Over time, the main creators of the machine gun were able to push through the provision according to which all such ZiD products should be called Kord
      1. IVZ
        +6
        April 18 2022 19: 19
        Yes. As for AEK, this is just an internal cipher for KMZ developments. "A" appeared already on "ZiD".
    2. +1
      April 18 2022 21: 56
      The name CAPRICORN 12.7 would be more appropriate laughing ?
      1. IVZ
        +1
        April 18 2022 22: 14
        ZiD is not an Arms Factory, with a Machine Gun
        1. 0
          April 18 2022 22: 45
          KPuZiD lol ? Kovrov Machine Gun Plant named after Degtyarev
        2. 0
          April 18 2022 22: 55
          Igor, this is a joke, I keep quiet, sorry troll feel
          1. IVZ
            0
            April 19 2022 05: 30
            Yes cool. Keep going Leo.
  28. 0
    April 18 2022 22: 41
    It turned out well, many thanks to the author! Dushevnenko came out, I really liked the article! good

    However, I still don’t consider the shutter delay and the store shaft to be superfluous for the AK. wink
    1. 0
      April 18 2022 22: 50
      They are, for example, on the Vepr 12 - a carbine based on the RPK.
      1. IVZ
        0
        April 19 2022 06: 37
        This is not a combat weapon. The testers don't bully him like that. Although by and large it is necessary to work in this direction, in the end they solved a similar problem in the PC.
        1. 0
          April 19 2022 07: 43
          More?
          Interest is not idle.
          I applied for a license, should I choose MP-155 (12/76, plastic, 710 mm) or Vepr 12 (305 mm)?
  29. 0
    April 18 2022 23: 17
    Quote: IVZ
    This is my first posting experience.

    Go on!
  30. +1
    April 19 2022 01: 54
    Judging by what I saw and read about the AK-12, my impressions are not very good. Before us is the same AK74 but with new fittings. That's about as if a 50-year-old woman would dress up in the most fashionable clothes from Armani. But she would still remain a 50-year-old woman.
    a) The trunk remained thin as vermicelli. And if so, it heats up quickly. Moreover - the low rigidity of the thin-walled barrel guarantees low accuracy - clearly lower than that of the M4.
    b) The receiver remained the same 1mm stamped steel. If so, it will wobble, due to insufficient structural rigidity. That is why the SIG556 (and this, to be honest, is the same AK) is noticeably more accurate - a stiffer receiver that does not wobble when firing, and a thicker barrel.
    c) Your designers never thought of a two-way fire translator. He is still missing. Although there is such a translator on Galile (Israeli AK clone), Valmet (Finnish AK clone) and Tantalum (Polish AK clone).
    d) The magazine latch lever (mag release paddle), you can use it with any hand you like - though no one thought of making it bigger (like on Galil) to make it more convenient to press it.
    e) Your designers never thought of the shutter delay after the last shot and its release button .. And this not only lets the soldier know that the cartridges have run out, but also speeds up reloading.
    f) The fire translator easily breaks off the limiter and reliably covers the trigger guard. How it was not found in the tests - I'll never know.
    g) AKs are known for their low accuracy of fire. The reasons are a thin barrel and a flimsy receiver. Rifles FNC, GALIL and SIG556 although internally - this is the same AK is noticeably more accurate and more accurate, the reason? Stiffer receiver and thicker barrel. The greater the rigidity of the structure, the greater the accuracy. On VEPR and SAIGA M (1.3mm receivers, machine-gun barrel), accuracy and accuracy are noticeably higher (due to increased weight)

    As a result, we have the same old AK74, only in a new outfit. None of the innovations that were shown on the AK12 that was PLANNED to be adopted, did not go to the AK that was ACCEPTED. The only thing is a new gas outlet unit, and a new hinged receiver cover. I wonder how many times the new AK12 is more expensive than the old AK74M? And at the same time, how much did the accuracy and accuracy of fire increase?
    1. 0
      April 19 2022 14: 09
      Very good article! Many thanks to the author, the topic is extremely close to me as a once army gunsmith.
      With the Ak-12, of course, many, many years after the service, I managed to get acquainted and ... shoot.
      I have my own opinion, although I will not get ahead of the author.
    2. Aag
      0
      April 19 2022 20: 57
      Could it be another compromise? Between cost, reliability, versatility? MASS?
    3. Aag
      0
      April 19 2022 21: 33
      The AK-12 adopted by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and the AK-12 proposed by designers, developers, customers - IMHO - are different, and very different things, products. You should not go down to samples, perhaps ...
      To all those reading this thread in these difficult times, hi
      1. IVZ
        +2
        April 20 2022 05: 37
        The first version of the AK-12 flew off the test due to a breakdown. The one that was put into service, in fact, the next "tuned" version of the AK-75 for 47 years,
  31. 0
    April 19 2022 15: 45
    Quote: Oleg Kolsky
    The sleeve does not fly into any face. I shot from the left shoulder both in nature and through an embrasure in a BAT, only they put a reflector on the machine gun. And so there were no problems. It was believed that those who shoot from the left-eye begin to water because of the ingress of powder gases, I don’t know there were no problems.
    In general, when they received new 95 Kalash in 91. In comparison with AKSM, the first thing that caught my eye was the gas piston without grooves and not chrome-plated, the old AKSM somehow looked better. I remember conversations - the guys can rearrange the inside from the old ones, otherwise the fig knows what g it is made of, who will check it in the warehouse. But left as is.
    In any case, a reflector is needed. Flying on AR. That's still a pleasure.
  32. 0
    April 21 2022 14: 22
    Cool article. Similar traditions of discussing ideas are still preserved in some shipbuilding design bureaus.
  33. -2
    April 22 2022 11: 07
    Good afternoon dear author.
    Let me know, where is the promised second part? What takes so long to moderate?
    1. IVZ
      0
      April 22 2022 12: 20
      Don't know. I have no control over this process. Perhaps now there are simply a lot of other materials.
    2. 0
      April 22 2022 13: 31
      The author writes well, and good articles often come out on weekends.
  34. 0
    April 24 2022 09: 38
    Thank you for the article. I will wait for the continuation.
  35. 0
    21 May 2022 23: 08
    Thanks for the interesting article!
    A couple of questions:
    - an automatic machine with the index 6P38 - is this not a typo? Izhevsk "Abakan" was adopted under the index 6P33 ... or is it still about its Kovrov competitor, which was also adopted?
    - 6mm machine guns AEK-974 and AEK-991... but are there any details about them? What variants of 6mm cartridges did they use, what are the differences?
    - do you remember the index of Konstantinov's 6-mm rifle on the topic "Karabiner"?
    1. IVZ
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      22 May 2022 21: 06
      Typo. Surprisingly, the article was checked by several fellow designers, caused a lot of controversy, but a bunch of fleas slipped through. A separate article has been conceived for your other questions, although for me these are things of bygone days, and unfortunately there are almost no other participants left.
      1. 0
        20 June 2022 18: 50
        Igor, I would like to talk about the atmosphere in KB! You have described the process very well! And that's what I liked! I'm not a gunsmith, an engineer!
  36. 0
    20 June 2022 18: 47
    Zavarykin Igor - the greatest respect! I would like to talk with the author, he was in KB! And he thought, like Igor! Even wrote articles about!
  37. 0
    1 July 2022 16: 40
    Right now, during the operation in Ukraine, new weapons will be tested in battles. By the way, there is already a new machine gun with a shortened barrel. There is a video on https://glav.su in the section "Special military operation for the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine", on the work of special forces to eliminate the Ukrainian DRG using such an assault rifle. Look.
    By the way, regarding the overheating of the barrel - the rollers from the fronts are fired either in single or short bursts. Only Chechens, and even then on camera, fire to the full horn.
    Well, according to the human factor - you probably all went through it, getting used to one type of transition to something new seems not very often convenient (for example, mobile phones). Since your hands and body (motor memory) are used to and remember some operations and movements, and then something new or different appears or changes. But the one who began to master the new right away finds the old model often not convenient.
    Well, it’s just interesting to read someone’s opinion from one of those who once participated in the development of automatic weapons. Although, when times change, the requirements and approaches to development change. And if something once seemed unshakable, today it goes into the past, into history.
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    6 October 2022 16: 58
    Well, in vain there is no shutter delay, a very convenient thing .. What is the point of testing with an open shutter? I don't think any..

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