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The Besogon program: about patriots and false patriots

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The special military operation taking place in Ukraine is, of course, a line of psychological and moral watershed. The topic of patriotism could have been raised earlier, but, to be honest, often these were just words about patriotism, devoid of any ground. Against this background, “repentant Kolyas in the Bundestag”, all kinds of bloggers and media appeared, who were worried about the question of why Leningrad stood to the last, and did not surrender to the “civilized Germans”.


Today is a real watershed. Those who poured dirt on their own homeland immediately decided to change their place of residence, apparently believing that they were the "salt of the earth" and "a manifestation of the civilized world." They seriously consider themselves absolutely right, and their words are the ultimate truth. Now, you see, they are "patriots of Russia", but only in Israel, the Czech Republic, Latvia, Portugal, the USA...

And after all, among them are many of those whom the state itself erected on a pedestal. These are "people's artists", "honored teachers", "prominent" public figures. Thanks to whom they received these titles, if they did not and do not have a drop of respect for those who have lived with him all these years. How many empty souls were brought up by these “deserved ones”, who were promoted on the screens, in public structures, which themselves sowed contempt for the Fatherland, which, in fact, gave them everything.

This topic is raised in his program by Nikita Mikhalkov.

About patriotism yesterday, today and tomorrow, about patriots and false patriots - the release of the Besogon program, which, by the way, has again become a handshake for federal channels. But there were times when the liberal layer in the upper echelons, as they say, sawed out issues of Besogon from the screens, apparently not wanting to hear the truth about themselves.

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  1. Alanart
    Alanart April 15 2022 18: 59
    +3
    How many empty souls were brought up by these “deserved ones”, who were promoted on the screens, in public structures, which themselves sowed contempt for the Fatherland, which, in fact, gave them everything.
    This is Mikhalkov about himself, I hope? Decided to repent?
    1. nnm
      nnm April 15 2022 19: 22
      +22
      This is the same Mikhalkov, in whose films the Red Army is a bunch of drunkards, murderers and idiots (you don’t even need to talk about SMERSH) and only ..... Mikhalkov himself wins everyone)))
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine April 15 2022 19: 44
        +4
        Quote: nnm
        This is the same Mikhalkov, in whose films the Red Army is a bunch of drunkards, murderers and idiots,

        He'd better keep quiet.
      2. tatarin1972
        tatarin1972 April 15 2022 21: 20
        +3
        Director, subtle soul, they see what others do not see. In SMERSH, the losses among the operas were terrible, it is not yet known who was more lucky in the platoon in the Infantry or the opera in SMERSH.
        Only one opus with an attack with sticks on the fortified area should already have said how Nikita Sergeevich has a head.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2022 21: 30
          +10
          You just don’t know how to feel the general line of the party as subtly as Mikhalkov can :))))
          At that moment, an order was fully formed - it is necessary for the country to believe that there is a smart, strong and far-sighted leader in the presidency, and a dark people who should see the light in the window in him, because without him he will not be able to bring a spoon to his mouth. And this order was organically superimposed on the lordly manners of Mikhalkov himself, who had the oil to play such a leader. So the substance turned out, which the author, with his inherent modesty, called "a great film about a great war" ... and got away with it, because even though the film turned out to be frankly a failure, it was "ideologically correct" ...
    2. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets April 15 2022 21: 02
      +3
      Quote: Alanart
      This is Mikhalkov about himself, I hope? Decided to repent?

      In order for the main copyist of the country to decide to repent, the sky must fall to the ground! A worse character in the domestic "culture" simply does not exist.
      Threat This patriot is one of those, "you Ivans and Otaps kill each other, and I will throw firewood into the fire of mutual hatred."
  2. Seryoga64
    Seryoga64 April 15 2022 19: 01
    +5
    Now, you see, they are “patriots of Russia”, but only in Israel, the Czech Republic, Latvia, Portugal, and the USA.

    They will pour mud on Russia there, and then, as if nothing had happened, they return back
    1. kirosi
      kirosi April 15 2022 21: 02
      +4
      They will pour mud on Russia there, and then, as if nothing had happened, they return back

      It’s interesting, yesterday, and, in my opinion, today they are running ads on TV and soon they will also play the film itself that is anti-Soviet, which means Russophobic (ALL anti-Soviet people are Russophobes in one way or another, no matter how they pretend). moreover, just bungled, naturally at the expense of the state, and so it is announced with aplomb that it was filmed based on the work of the Nobel laureate Solzhenitsyn. The same one who, in various ways, obsequiously glorified the "great American democracy" and called on his masters to atomic bomb the USSR. Like this
  3. Wildcat
    Wildcat April 15 2022 19: 04
    +9
    laughing
    raises in his program Nikita Mikhalkov

    Mikhalkov raised what was needed under Khrushchev.
    Mikhalkov raised what was needed under Brezhnev.
    Mikhalkov raised what was needed under Andropov.
    Mikhalkov raised what was needed under Chernenko.
    Mikhalkov raised what was needed under Gorbachev.
    Mikhalkov raised what was needed under Yeltsin.
    Mikhalkov raised what is needed under Putin.
    Mikhalkov raised what was needed under Medvedev.
    Mikhalkov raised what is needed under Putin.

    If he hesitated, then only along with the general line and only towards the greatness of the leader.
    Mikhalkov's task - "raises in his program." This he can do.
    God bless us all, we will hear something else from Mikhalkov.
    . fellow
    1. skeptic
      skeptic April 15 2022 19: 15
      -8
      You’re lying, well, if out of ignorance, but if on purpose, then you’re trying in vain, those who are interested will still watch the program.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2022 19: 19
        +18
        Quote from skeptic
        You're lying

        He speaks the absolute truth. Mikhalkov touchingly subtly feels the political moment laughing
        1. Wildcat
          Wildcat April 15 2022 19: 43
          +2
          hi
          Thanks for the compliment!
          Taking this opportunity, I would like to invite the respected "Andrey from Chelyabinsk" to the topic "The Song of the Heavy Aircraft Carrier"!
          https://topwar.ru/194814-pesn-o-tjazhelom-avianosce.html

          Not everyone still correctly understands the role of aircraft carriers, their price and the actual construction time ...
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2022 19: 59
            +3
            Quote: Wildcat
            Thanks for the compliment!

            This is not a compliment, but the absolute truth :)
            Quote: Wildcat
            Taking this opportunity, I would like to invite the respected "Andrey from Chelyabinsk" to the topic "The Song of the Heavy Aircraft Carrier"!

            Thanks, but not sure if it's worth it. There, the author again gathered all the stamps about aircraft carriers into one heap, while really not knowing anything about them. What to talk about with him?
        2. nnm
          nnm April 15 2022 20: 18
          +2
          That's for sure! Previously, he had only one competitor in matters of feeling the fluctuations in the party line - Yevtushenko. But now Mikhalkov is just a king in his business
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      2. Wildcat
        Wildcat April 15 2022 20: 00
        +2
        those who are interested will still watch the program.
        that you, myself, sometimes turn on! The image of Mikhalkov "in images and phones" always adds a good mood. winked
        I'm still waiting for the phone to ring or the prayer to start. laughing
  4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2022 19: 13
    +10
    "Russia!
    Do you feel that strange itch?
    Three Mikhalkovs are crawling on you!" (Gaft)
    This guy disgusts me. Yes, he sometimes says the right things, but not because he shares them, but because it is beneficial to him: he himself is disgusting. Outside - a gentleman, in his soul - a serf, ready to curry favor with any authority.
    1. House 25 Sq. 380
      House 25 Sq. 380 April 15 2022 19: 22
      +1
      No more gafts to complain about the Mikhalkovs bully
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2022 19: 39
        +7
        Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
        No more gafts to complain about the Mikhalkovs

        Maybe so, but it does not cancel the accuracy of the epigram
        1. House 25 Sq. 380
          House 25 Sq. 380 April 15 2022 19: 52
          -2
          Do you know that the actor Mikhail Politseymako - the son of Farada and Maria Politseymako - is the grandson of Vitaly Politseymako, whose wife was Evgenia Fish - the first stage partner of Alexander Menaker, father of Andrei Mironov and choreographer Kirill Laskari?
          Moreover, the first wife of Cyril Laskari was Nina Urgant, and through his grandfather he is a relative of the writer Mikhail Lipskerov, while the brother of his great-grandfather was a major Russian publisher Abram Yakovlevich Lipskerov, and his son, Kirill Kirillovich Laskari, a copywriter, screenwriter, prose writer and poet , director of the marketing and promo department of the Pyatnitsa TV channel in 2013-2017, CEO of the STS Love TV channel from 2017 to 2019.
          Also second cousins ​​​​of Kirill Laskari Sr. are director Leonid Menaker (son of director Isaac Mikhailovich Menaker, who is the cousin of the aforementioned father of the choreographer - Alexander Menaker) and children's writer Georgy Yurmin?
          Moreover, Yurmin himself was born in the family of Alfred Mikhailovich Menaker and doctor Lidia Alexandrovna Segal. This marriage broke up in 1931 and the mother married the surgeon Roman Marianovich Freizler
          Before the Great Patriotic War, while his mother and stepfather were in exile, the future Yurmin was brought up in the family of his aunt, the writer Elena Alexandrovna Segal and her husband, science popularizer Ilya Yakovlevich Marshak.
          Do you understand?
          That is, the brother of Samuil Yakovlevich Marshak and Leah Yakovlevna Marshak, writers ...
          And the children of S.Ya. Marshak are the son of Immanuel Marshak, a physicist, winner of the Stalin Prize of the third degree (1947) for developing a method of aerial photography, as well as a translator (in particular, he owns the Russian translation of Jane Austen's novel "Pride and Prejudice").
          Interestingly, his grandchildren are Yakov Marshak, a narcologist, creator and first head of the Marshak Clinic, and Alexander Marshak, a children's writer.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2022 21: 38
            +1
            I still strongly apologize, but such geological trees are not so interesting to me :)
            1. House 25 Sq. 380
              House 25 Sq. 380 April 15 2022 22: 13
              -2
              I also realized that gafts with short epigrams attract you more laughing
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2022 22: 15
                -1
                Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
                I also realized that gafts with short epigrams attract you more

                Quite right. Will you accuse me of clip thinking and the inability to master what is written in more than two lines? good laughing
                1. House 25 Sq. 380
                  House 25 Sq. 380 April 15 2022 22: 41
                  -3
                  You are like in a joke:
                  - Tell me, do erotic dreams torment you?
                  - well, why, "torture" ...
                  smile
                  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                    Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 16 2022 10: 19
                    +3
                    Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
                    You are like in a joke:

                    Agas :)))) Well, if you think that blaming the best commentator on the site and the author of many articles that readers like for a deep analysis of historical events in clip thinking is a good idea that will help you win this little discussion - good luck laughing
                    Then you don’t have to wonder why it didn’t occur to you that when I evaluate this or that person, I do this on the basis of his own words, actions (or inactions), and not on his family ties
                    1. House 25 Sq. 380
                      House 25 Sq. 380 April 16 2022 13: 12
                      -2
                      And someone accused, mr. First?
                      lol
                      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 16 2022 13: 53
                        +1
                        Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
                        And someone accused, mr. First?

                        That is, with these words,
                        Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
                        You are like in a joke:
                        - Tell me, do erotic dreams torment you?
                        - well, why, "torture" ...

                        You meant something else. Well, let's write it down laughing
                      2. House 25 Sq. 380
                        House 25 Sq. 380 April 16 2022 15: 45
                        -4
                        With such a "predictive" Gift, I would focus on finding people by photographs or buying lottery tickets. lol
                      3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 16 2022 19: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
                        With such a "predictive" Gift, I would focus

                        So you seem to be focused, aren't you?
                    2. sniperino
                      sniperino April 16 2022 13: 17
                      -3
                      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                      the best commentator on the site and the author of many articles that readers like precisely for their in-depth analysis of historical events
                      The superiority complex is a sure step towards megalomania.
                      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 16 2022 14: 03
                        +2
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Complex of excellence

                        Sorry, where did you see him?
                      2. sniperino
                        sniperino April 16 2022 18: 02
                        -5
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        Sorry, where did you see him?
                        Is this quote not enough for you? Is there really no superiority? To use the subjective choice of people, many of whom have never been experts, many are propagandists with the same clip thinking, certain political views and tastes, as an argument in the discussion, you see, this would not have occurred to everyone. Mikhalkov, at the same time, millions of people watch and like him, but you don’t take this into account at all. According to your logic, they are all morons, and the most intelligent ones voted for you here. Right?
                      3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                        Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 16 2022 19: 25
                        +3
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Is this quote not enough for you?

                        Absolutely not enough
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Is there really no superiority?

                        Completely invisible. And it will not be visible to anyone who can read the three lines of my "discussion" with the gentleman from apartment 380
                        Quote: sniperino
                        To use the subjective choice of people, many of whom have never been experts, many are propagandists with the same clip thinking, certain political views and tastes, as an argument in the discussion, you see, this would not have occurred to everyone.

                        As follows from the nonsense I quoted, you are obviously incapable of this, so you will have to explain on your fingers.
                        I expressed my opinion about Mr. Mikhalkov, and this opinion was completely impartial for him. The gentleman from the 380th apartment transferred the dispute from Mikhalkov not to me, and accused me of clip thinking. Generally speaking, you might know that replacing the thesis of the discussion with the transition to the personality of the opponent is a dirty trick, unacceptable in a decent society. But you obviously don't know this.
                        In response to this, I noticed that I have a certain reputation on this site, which I have fully deserved, and it does not at all correspond to the thesis of my opponent. And he hinted that SUCH accusations against me in the eyes of other readers would look at least funny.
                        But here you come all out of yourself so correct you - and it begins. You are not even able to understand that the discussion has long since left Mikhalkov, because the question "Does Andrey from Chebyalinsk have clip thinking?" has nothing to do with Mikhalkov. You don’t even know how to read a few comments, and it seems to you that Mikhalkov is being discussed, and that I’m trying to add weight to my opinion about Mikhalkov by referring to my achievements in VO ...
                        Quote: sniperino
                        Mikhalkov, at the same time, millions of people watch and like him, but you don’t take this into account at all. According to your logic, they are all morons, and the most intelligent ones voted for you here. Right?

                        Well, what to talk about with you after that?
                      4. sniperino
                        sniperino April 18 2022 09: 27
                        0
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        You might know that replacing the thesis of the discussion with the transition to the personality of the opponent is a dirty trick, unacceptable in a decent society.
                        Are you serious?
                        Russia!
                        Do you feel that strange itch?
                        Three Mikhalkov creep on you!
                        Comparison of Mikhalkovs with insects is not a transition to the individual?
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        You are obviously incapable of this, so you have to explain on your fingers.
                        And this is not a transition to the individual?
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        I expressed my opinion regarding Mr. Mikhalkov, and this opinion was completely impartial for him
                        The transition to the personality of Mikhalkov is normal, but the transition to your personality is a dirty trick? But there (near House 25 Apt. 380) there was not even such a transition.
                        Quote: House 25 Sq. 380
                        gafts with short epigrams attract you more
                        Here we are talking about preferences that are not necessarily associated with clip thinking, as you defined it, because brevity is the sister of talent. And then the flow of dirt in my address
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        You are not even able to understand ... You cannot even read a few comments, and you imagine ...
                        And all this after I questioned the objectivity of your high rating as the best commentator on this forum. And this applies not only to the competition, but to any pluses and minuses that we get here, because the participants cannot be suspected of impartiality. No matter what our wounded self-esteem tells us about this. Even if it whispers to you that this society is not so decent, and everything is possible here.
          2. stas-xnumx
            stas-xnumx April 17 2022 09: 26
            0
            Mom, I'm confused
  5. Mikhail Alekseev_2
    Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 19: 30
    +1
    attacked looking at Nikita))) And what do you not like about him? Barin? Yes. Russian barin. Or is an American master more preferable to you?))) Does he have grandmas? Yes, it does - why not? Zele can earn money from acting and directing - but he can’t? He, unlike the Urgants and Galkins, served in the Navy, although he could sag and is in Russia
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2022 19: 44
      +6
      Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
      attacked looking at Nikita))) And what do you not like about him? Barin? Yes. Russian barin. Or do you prefer an American master?)))

      If for you the choice is only to look into the mouth of a Russian master, or an American one, then I feel sorry for you, the right word. Personally, I'm doing fine without a master.
      Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
      Grandma has? Yes, it does - why not?

      Because you have to earn money. And not to rat the government.
      1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
        Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 19: 53
        +1
        well, if you look into Nikita's mouth, then these are your problems))) I don’t look into his mouth like American masters.
        if you have evidence that he stole government money, then the Russian prosecutor's office is at your service - state all the facts there. If there are no facts, then why write?))) Otherwise, I can also write that you are a pedophile, for example, without evidence)))
        1. nnm
          nnm April 15 2022 20: 15
          -1
          Yeah .... we do not have the principle "friends - everything, enemies - the law!"
          1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
            Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 20: 19
            0
            why don't you like this principle?)) This is everywhere around the world. But Mikhalkov, with his transfer a year ago, was greatly spread rot and even closed when he popped Gref and Chubais, so what? He was not really his own for power then)
            And if you make the same film as "At Home Among Strangers ..." I would also forgive you a lot)))
            1. nnm
              nnm April 15 2022 20: 22
              +2
              Everyone doesn't like it. I like the principle of equality of all before the law. And the fact that toads fight with vipers for a place under the sun is nothing new.
              And what is this movie? Isn't it the one where the country is simply watered from the first to the last minute? Well, at least 12 men or a barber would be cited as an example ...
              But you know, one never overlaps the other. The fact that Hitler painted pictures does not negate what he did outside of painting. So here. Mikhalkov is a talented director ... he used to be, of course, but as a person ... - a fine suspension
              1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 20: 28
                -6
                ohh, Hitler was already dragged in))) well, compare Hitler and your Zelensky - he is also a director and actor and also received loot from Russia, and now he receives even more from deaths.
                It is not for you to judge Mikhalkov and not for me. The fact that you do not like it - I understand - you like the Ukrainian Crimea and Russia in ruins. And he doesn’t want to yell “end of the war”. so calm down)))
                1. nnm
                  nnm April 15 2022 20: 33
                  +2
                  I appreciated the passage about "our" Zelensky))) very funny.
                  Why don't you or me judge Mikhalkov? What is this, some kind of celestial? Why is some sort of slave psychology the norm for you? That is, you can judge the janitor Vasya, but you can’t judge Mikhalkov? And how does he differ from a janitor - two arms, two legs, and dig deeper, it’s not a fact that Mikhalkov is better than this janitor ...
                  1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                    Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 20: 38
                    -4
                    because you can judge Mikhalkov's "crimes" only with evidence. Do you have them? Then forward to the prosecutor's office. Not? Then shut your mouth
                    Let's judge you and not Mikhalkov. I will write that you are a murderer, I will write just like that, without proof. You'll like it?
                    1. nnm
                      nnm April 15 2022 20: 43
                      -2
                      Dear colleague, don't tell me what to do and I won't tell you where to go.
                      And it was funny about the prosecutor's office ...
                      1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                        Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 21: 24
                        -5
                        that is, you have the right to tell me that Mikhalkov is a bastard - but I don’t have the right to object to you?))) I’ll tell you where to go - go to the dupa, pulled up
                      2. nnm
                        nnm April 15 2022 21: 26
                        +1
                        You have no right to tell me what I should think and say. And the rest I don't care.
                        And with Mikhalkov, you can even kiss on the gums. It is your right. I just feel sorry for you...
                      3. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                        Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 21: 30
                        -3
                        I don’t write that I have any rights - I write that if you have evidence of theft or some other crimes on the part of Mikhalkov, contact the prosecutor’s office. If you just want to hype here without evidence, then this is your problem. Don't force your opinion on me!
        2. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor April 15 2022 20: 23
          +2
          Mikhail, it’s good for you .. you live and believe that all the embezzlers of state property are in prison .. and everyone who is not, they are honest, because they are not imprisoned .. and Chubais is probably good in your opinion .. because there is no evidence .. it means good .. otherwise, go to the prosecutor's office, write if you are against ...
          1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
            Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 20: 32
            -5
            We have such a structure in Russia - the prosecutor's office. If you know something about crimes, then contact them there, and not write to me here.
        3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2022 22: 00
          +3
          Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
          well, if you look into Nikita's mouth, then these are your problems)))

          That feeling when you really want to blurt something out, if only it was, isn't it? :)
          Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
          if you have evidence that he stole government money, then the Russian prosecutor's office is at your service

          Please quote the place where I wrote "stole", please.
          Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
          If there are no facts, then why write?)))

          Do you have the fact that I accused Mikhalkov of stealing? There is not. But for some reason you write about it ... In general, you, dear man, do not see a log in your own eye, but in my delicate organs of vision, with unwashed fingers, you climb to look for a mote. You don't have to do that, you're right.
          I wrote
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          Because you have to earn money. And not to rat the government.

          The word "rat" has a slightly different meaning than the word "steal". And you don't have to go far for examples of rat-keeping - "Burnt by the Sun 2". How did Mikhalkov shoot them with his own money? With yourself, beloved, in the lead role? The man satisfied his personal ambitions at public expense in its purest form, satisfied, but that the film failed at the box office without returning even 20% of the budget - so what? Among foreigners, such figures go bankrupt and go around the world, because they did not earn. Mikhalkov, on the other hand, did not earn money, but somehow he did not become impoverished at all :)))) Formally, this is not theft. As well as a lecture given by another character in Skolkovo for more than 100 million rubles. In fact, this is a squandering of public funds in its purest form - or rat-keeping.
          Or, for example, the tax on media, which is collected by the Russian Union of Rightholders (RSP), whose council is headed by director Nikita Mikhalkov. The RSP charges 1% for the importation of electronics and media into Russia, for private copying of music and films by users. That is, they take a tax from me for the fact that I CAN BE copying myself on the screw of a domestic artist ... Do you even realize what nonsense this is? And Nikita Sergeevich will not offend himself, as the chairman of the RSP, with a salary from the tax collected from me, oh, he will not offend ... laughing
          Formally, again, everything is according to the law. In fact, a feeding trough was organized for one specific person at my and your expense.
          The only difference is that I understand this, and feel hostility towards this "actor", not being able to counteract within the framework of the law. You console yourself with the fact that, yes, you were robbed, but at least a Russian, not an American ....
          Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
          And then I can also write that you are a pedophile, for example, without proof)))

          Sure you can. What you cannot say is to my face and in person. How many of you are so "brave" on the Internet ...
          1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
            Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 22: 11
            -3
            you wrote - "Because you need to earn money. And not to rat the government."
            I see no reason to communicate with you, you stupidly merge and engage in demagogy to justify your drain. If you have evidence that Mikhalkov rats official - give the facts. If not, then go through the Carpathian forest.
            I do not think that Mikhalkov robbed me. I was robbed by Chubais, Gref, Gaidar, Yeltsin and others. You stupidly do not like his Russophile statements and you begin to scold him - I understand. You are supposed to.
            PS There are movies in Hollywood failure - and nothing. Nobody says that this is theft. So it is here - even from the treasury. If you are so omniscient and you know in advance which film will be a failure and which will not, then you do not belong here, but your place is in the producers)
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 15 2022 22: 30
              +1
              Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
              you wrote - "Because you need to earn money. And not to rat the government."

              Exactly. Mikhalkov did not earn his money.
              Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
              I see no reason to communicate with you, you stupidly merge and engage in demagogy to justify your drain.

              I allow you to cry quietly in a corner. And who merges here - readers of our correspondence will appreciate.
              Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
              If you have evidence that Mikhalkov is ratting official - give the facts

              And I already brought them. And you can’t object to me at all, except for the final withdrawal into rudeness.
              Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
              I do not think that Mikhalkov robbed me.

              So it's not surprising. To do this, at least you need to be able to count.
              Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
              You stupidly do not like his Russophile statements and you begin to scold him - I understand.

              That the breadth of your intellectual possibilities leaves much to be desired - I have long noticed. And now you are just transferring your personal life experience to me.
              "Napoleon, according to his principle, and here acted against Melas as if Melas were Napoleon, and Melas acted against Napoleon as if Napoleon were Melas." (Tarle)

              Meanwhile I wrote
              Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
              This guy disgusts me. Yes, he sometimes says the right things., but not because he separates them, but because it is beneficial to him: he himself is disgusting.

              That is, I do not at all dispute his Russophile statements (if there were any) - I am talking about hostility towards this ... person, and I explain the motives for this hostility.
              Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
              There are movies in Hollywood failure - and nothing.

              Yes, studios go bankrupt, directors go into circulation and no one calls them anywhere else, in general, they get what they deserve.
              Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
              Nobody says it's theft.

              People GO BUSINESS because of bad movies. AND GET RICH by making a good movie. Mikhalkov was enriched by shooting a disastrous and frankly anti-Russian film. For the state, that is, for mine, including the account.
              That is, this person harmed the country in which I live, and I paid for it.
              Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
              So it is here - even from the treasury.

              I can only advise - how to be rude to adult uncles on the Internet, start, my dear, squeezing a slave out of yourself. Drop by drop. You can put up with the fact that some individuals are fattening at your expense, but take it for granted and rejoice in it ...
              1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 23: 13
                -6
                that is, you don’t have any facts of Mikhalkov’s theft?))) Did you spread demagoguery again?)
                squeeze out a lie drop by drop - and if you are an adult uncle, then I feel sorry for you. You are an adult, but you have not acquired your mind ...
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 16 2022 10: 34
                  +2
                  Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
                  that is, you don’t have any facts of theft of Mikhalkov?)))

                  Do you know what the problem is with you and others like you? You are completely incapable of adapting your argumentation to your opponent’s remarks. And you continue to repeat the same thing with persistence worthy of better use without realizing that they didn’t leave a stone unturned from your “proof”, and how ridiculous you look at the same time.
                  Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
                  and if you are an adult uncle, then I feel sorry for you. You are an adult, but you have not acquired your mind ...

                  Have you not yet realized to what extent I care about your opinion of me?
                  My dear Ripat! - Rumata said arrogantly, turning around,
                  to go. - You forget that from the height of my origin is not visible
                  no difference even between the king and you. Goodbye.
              2. Vladimir Rostovsky
                Vladimir Rostovsky April 16 2022 00: 01
                +1
                Oh, and famously you dismantled the "patriot-bot" for spare parts, well, it's not in vain that you are the "best commentator", I applaud standing laughing
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 16 2022 10: 40
                  +3
                  Quote: Vladimir Rostovsky
                  Oh, and famously you dismantled the "patriot-bot" for parts

                  It was easy. And in general, I have a feeling as if I abused a minor laughing
                  1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                    Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 16 2022 10: 57
                    -5
                    Of course, it’s easy for you to talk nonsense - you are used to it)))) and your colleagues from the IPSO support you very much in carrying your nonsense. Keep talking nonsense and don't spill it)
    2. Kelwin
      Kelwin April 15 2022 19: 53
      0
      Ага, отслужил он. Первое попавшиеся - https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5e5b85659b74e06237370be8/kak-nikita-mihalkov-v-armiiu-hodil-5f91372c2c1a69338e4a4624
      1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
        Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 19: 56
        -2
        I read the beginning - I thought it was garbage, but at the end the man really wrote that Nikita didn’t streak and served as he should and dad didn’t excuse him - he even swam in the river and almost flooded on the expedition.
        “Most of the way in the Penzhinskaya tundra we walked along the frozen Paren River ... The first sledge had the hardest time ... I remember how Nikita went first, I followed him. Pushing the sled, he suddenly fell somewhere ... Seeing that my team was approaching, he screamed furiously, waved his arms so that I would bypass him. He was afraid that we would find ourselves in an ice hole ... They pulled him out of the hole with a long chaug. I had to change clothes in the open air ... "
        Man Nikita did not know that he was taking such a risk
        1. Kelwin
          Kelwin April 15 2022 20: 08
          +2
          Michael, if nothing in that text puzzles you, then you read it diagonally. For then it was normal and finally can never be a secret. It just didn't add any respect.
          1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
            Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 20: 11
            -4
            in general, nothing puzzles, but only causes respect that Nikita, instead of being a bread cutter and serving in a warm place, went on an expedition and almost flooded in the winter northern river. It also causes respect that his dad, a very influential person, did nothing to prevent him from serving at all.
            1. Kelwin
              Kelwin April 15 2022 20: 23
              +2
              You deliberately do not mention about 27 years or overlooked it?
              1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 20: 30
                -2
                on the contrary, it is a plus for me that at the age of 27 he went to serve. Even at that age, he still served
                1. Kelwin
                  Kelwin April 15 2022 20: 46
                  +1
                  Well, it means we have different markers. happens... All the best hi
                  1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                    Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 21: 25
                    -2
                    we have very different felt-tip pens))) whose Crimea?
                    1. Kelwin
                      Kelwin April 15 2022 22: 14
                      0
                      It seems to have said goodbye, but nevertheless, Crimea is ours.
                      Details here http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_160618/
                      1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                        Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 22: 16
                        -1
                        Crimea is not yours - Russian Crimea!!
                      2. Kelwin
                        Kelwin April 15 2022 22: 19
                        -1
                        Don't worry, it happens...
                      3. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                        Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 23: 14
                        -2
                        does not happen, but will always be Russian)
                      4. Kelwin
                        Kelwin April 15 2022 23: 30
                        +1
                        Where are you posting about wasting time? Well, not the point. What are you striving for? I can safely say that Crimea is mine, as a citizen of the Russian Federation. What's the problem then? It still won’t work to smear Mikhalkov through a simple chattering of the topic, don’t waste time. There is such a movie, Zhmurki, that's where he is real. the movie fire, by the way ...
                      5. Mikhail Alekseev_2
                        Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 23: 44
                        -5
                        yes, I don’t want to excuse you, a pedophile at all))) Call the prosecutor’s office and explain that you are not a pedophile and that Mikhalkov is a thief))) I see a lot of facts on these cases ... Just Zhmurki film for you)))
                      6. Kelwin
                        Kelwin April 15 2022 23: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: Mikhail Alekseev_2
                        Yes, I don’t want to smear you, a pedophile at all)))

                        Uncle Mish, stop drinking alone, you start to confuse the banks)
    3. nnm
      nnm April 15 2022 20: 14
      -1
      And the option without a master at all in your paradigm of life is not considered in principle?
      Or do you only have an option - or a Russian master with a flashing light, turning around through two solid ones, and then, when the MO wanted to pick up the flashers, a phrase like "who are you and who am I ?!", or some other gentleman?
      Rich? But I would really like to look at this genius of business without proximity to power ..
      1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
        Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 20: 24
        -3
        why are you all guessing for me? I wrote about the master because I read a post about the master from above. You are attached to it. Are you a slug? Do you have a sore subject?)))
        for me, let Mikhalkov have something from the authorities than Urgant, Makarevich or Sokurov
        1. nnm
          nnm April 15 2022 20: 30
          +5
          Yes, very sick, colleague! I do not accept the master either in the form of Mikhalkov, or in any other form.
          Excuse me, but did some post prompt you to think that Mikhalkov would cut the budget better, and not Urgant? And the option that NOBODY should cut the budget, especially with the support of the authorities, didn’t cross your mind at all?
          1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
            Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 20: 36
            -6
            I repeat once again for especially gifted people like you - if you have evidence that someone is cutting the budget like Mikhalkov, then contact the prosecutor's office. The fact that you are tearing your shirt off here and taking care of the budget is commendable. but every crime must be proven. And then I can also write a lot about you, just like you about me just from the bulldozer
            1. nnm
              nnm April 15 2022 20: 39
              0
              I sincerely feel sorry for you, colleague
          2. House 25 Sq. 380
            House 25 Sq. 380 April 15 2022 22: 17
            -3
            Your option is very simple: the bulk brothers sawing the budget ...
            And do not say, they say, "do not accept" ...
            Life shows that those who came to the Maidan against the corruption of Yanukovych existed perfectly within the framework of the corruption of Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, Groysman and the 95 quarter ....
            Budgets have been sawing since the time of the pharaohs and will be sawed until the Second Coming of Christ ....
  6. Maks1995
    Maks1995 April 15 2022 19: 54
    0
    Again an owl on the globe.
    I don’t follow closely, but even here they wrote that the authorities themselves sawed out the besog when he said something unpleasant about the authorities.

    And by the way, the news went through other media, they say, patriots, false patriots - it will be seen, and the enterprises of the oligarchs of Ukraine, working for the enterprises of the oligarchs of Russia, worked right to the end, even during the "non-war". And no one even mentioned the property of our oligarchs there for a long time after the start. It was and it worked.
    1. Mikhail Alekseev_2
      Mikhail Alekseev_2 April 15 2022 20: 05
      -3
      By the way. Previously, often his programs were not allowed to air about Chubais, Grefs and others.
  7. Nestorych
    Nestorych April 15 2022 19: 55
    -6
    An apple from an apple tree, if the government changed and his dad did not die, he would write another anthem "a woman with reduced social responsibility".))
  8. fa2998
    fa2998 April 15 2022 20: 05
    0
    This "patriot" from Besogon drew so many millions from the treasury for his films - don't worry. Now this "honored" and "people's" is ready to lick his heels for it. lol
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  9. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov April 15 2022 22: 13
    +3
    How is it in "Bumbarash"?
    "Pictures / diagrams / tables are skipped,
    we delve into the essence of the proletariat."
    (reading "Capital" by K. Marx sentries)

    To me personally, when watching "Besogon"
    interesting facts that still need to be dug up and collected.
    And the emotions and opinion of the presenter - well, this is ... his opinion.
    Has the right to.
    I've had mine for thirty years, which is normal.

    And yes. Whatever Mikhalkov, but
    after "Own among strangers, a stranger among his own"
    he could have done nothing at all.
    Because it's a gem. Diamond.

    To summarize:
    Any opinion is valuable.
    Because it allows you to develop and strengthen your own.
    Something like this, gentlemen topvarishi.
    1. Ermak_Timofeich
      Ermak_Timofeich April 16 2022 05: 20
      -3
      after "Own among strangers, a stranger among his own"
      he could have done nothing at all

      Were you frozen, or just behind in your own development? It is difficult to find / name a more base domestic film. But he had masterpieces ..., at the viewing of which the audience, at the end, gave a standing ovation. I won’t remind you, because there are only a few of them,
  10. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin April 16 2022 10: 36
    0
    Favored by the Soviet authorities, at first we were taught Soviet patriotism. Now they are teaching differently.
    1. Wildcat
      Wildcat April 16 2022 14: 20
      +1
      Here caresses were mutual - official cultural figures, such as the Mikhalkov family, "were well supplied." In addition to money, there are also dachas on Nikolina Gora, a convenient career for relatives, proximity to power, and other "nishtyaks" inaccessible to the hegemon.
      However, for this it was necessary to sing the construction of a new society, the advantages of the USSR system and personally dear ______ (substitute the necessary), as well as curse capitalism and the West.

      Until the 80s of the last century, "cultural figures" considered their position to be very good. But since they were on duty not only in contact with foreign culture (music, literature), but also with foreigners with their "culture of consumption", the cognitive dissonance made them at first slowly "dissident" and sometimes farce, and then start to sing Yeltsin, Gorbachev and Co. For they wanted to enter the world culture, while shooting like at Mosfilm, and receiving like in Hollywood.

      In the era of the late Gorbachev and early Yeltsin, it became clear that no one needed domestic cultural figures in competition with Hollywood and other phenomena of mass culture. There remains the role of wedding generals in the DR of the nouveau riche, the leasing of cultural premises for catering and trade, and filming in advertising / trash films.

      Fortunately, an old-new role has appeared called "cultural figures support the authorities" (they began to pay very well for this). This matter is familiar to cultural figures from the USSR, and they took it up with new zeal. And suddenly it became possible to make any kind of films, put on performances, and generally do anything to maintain power - but only for money that the USSR never dreamed of.
      Of course, the government slightly despises them (because they know their value since the days of the KGB of the USSR and the fact that such figures are the first "defectors"), but they use them. Of course, cultural figures at the first opportunity "molt to the West", justifying such expectations (from Morgenstern's rapper to Netrebko).
      However, there are those who can only earn money in the Russian Federation, like Mikhalkov, and they work off every ruble.
      "Andrey from Chelyabinsk" kindly (apparently, protecting the nerves of the Soforumites), refrained from assessing Mikhalkov's income, but those who wish can find them themselves (just take care of your heart).

      Well, what are we all about the Mikhalkov family?
      There are also other cultural figures whose work is much closer to the Military Review forum. I bring to your attention a look at the Great Patriotic War from the famous patriot Karen Shakhnazarov (we look at Wikipedia and rejoice):

      What do you think, military history buffs?
      The film, of course, failed at the box office, but who cares? Pyongyang International Film Festival, DPRK, September 2012 - gave the film the Special Jury Prize.
  11. sniperino
    sniperino April 16 2022 13: 27
    -3
    Mikhalkov is a statesman, he was like that during the Soviet era, and remains like that today. Who does not understand this, sees only "changing shoes", "serving the authorities", etc. He is not for the Reds and not for the Whites, but for Russia.
  12. Leshak
    Leshak April 16 2022 19: 38
    0
    I read the comments and an amazing feature - there is almost no discussion of what is said, and the spears are broken by the one who said. Everyone discusses Mikhalkov and no one cares about his thoughts. feel
    1. host
      host April 16 2022 20: 10
      0
      Quote: Leshak
      there is almost no discussion of what is said, and spears are broken by the one who said.
      A colleague agrees: horses, people - the meaning of the discussion of the article was lost.
  13. WWI
    WWI April 17 2022 09: 28
    0
    This is what bureaucracy means in Russia, and indeed in neighboring states. Heroes are assigned and awards are often given not to true patriots of the Motherland, and not rarely to reptile careerists who, in difficult times, betray their people and leave the Motherland. The people see this, starting with small enterprises and organizations and ending with the so-called "elite" of the state. And as a rule, the so-called rewarded are not with the people, but the saints of officials of various levels.
  14. Alexander Vanichev
    Alexander Vanichev April 17 2022 10: 44
    0
    I couldn’t force myself to watch his “Burnt by the Citadel” to the end, what an idiotic banter about the war. Respect for him disappeared when he kicked the boy in the face, whom Besogon's bodyguards were holding by the hands. They showed on the news when this kid threw something at Besogon, who was sitting on the presidium.
  15. imerjak
    imerjak April 17 2022 15: 02
    0
    Tell me - in which country do you keep your Finns, and I will answer - which country are you a patriot of. Everything is simple.
  16. Electrical
    Electrical April 19 2022 08: 24
    0
    The worst thing is that almost all of them instantly repainted! Even those who left, and then return, that is, traitors are not judged! This liberal bacchanalia will squirm to the last, they have something to lose!
  17. single-n
    single-n April 20 2022 08: 30
    0
    And this sycophant mustachioed, what else does it say about betrayal? Yes, he is one of those who for years watered the past of his country with shit, and now he condemns those who grew up on his "creativity"? This f**k is the first to be judged for destroying the souls and brains of the younger generation. He and people like him are no better than those VSUshnikov who trampled on the flag of a famous granny. Only they also "took away" rations from the generation of veterans and let them into their mansions. It was people like him who yelled that in the USSR and the Russian Empire everything was done by Russians alone, and the rest of the dozens of peoples only ate us, making Russian Natsiks no worse than Ukrainians. Today the whole country is "praying" for the Chechen special forces, and is proud of their successes. But I don’t see any kind of “guards noble” division from the sons of the Russian “elite”. For the same Nicholas 2, at least the daughters worked in hospitals, but where are the children of all these "patsreots"? Are they hiding in Dubai? Or on their knees at the Israeli consulate they prove that: "we all descended from Eve and they are the most Jewish Jews of all"? Today's Ukraine is what these "elites" aspired to. Only life-long nobility is not enough for them, and serf souls of 300 for each.

    PS (Georgy Dudorov is so far the only representative of the correct elite, sorry for the guy. I sincerely sympathize with my relatives)
  18. rumpeljschtizhen
    rumpeljschtizhen 19 August 2022 23: 13
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    The 5th column sits right in everything .. and this is not a joke, they really take places from teachers of small civil servants. Their brains worked out, they worked, they went abroad ... they say it’s cool there they will change our government and we will live. There are a lot of idiots, even with a Soviet appeal. It’s just that Ib called liberal we are good for you and that we feel good.