A container for weapons that are always at hand

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Cavalry holsters, Syria, XNUMXth century. Peabody Museum, Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts

- How do you find, Monsieur de Malicorne, these pistol holsters?
With the air of a connoisseur, he looked at the holsters and said without hesitation:
“Too heavy, Count.
“You see,” de Guiche turned to the saddler, “this gentleman,
a man of taste finds them heavy. What did I just tell you?

"Vicomte de Brazhelon" (part 1) A. Dumas

stories about weapons. For seven whole years, here at VO, my materials on various small arms were published. But ... nothing was said about the "capacities" for storing or wearing it, that is, about holsters. And recently one of the readers of VO was found who pointed out this circumstance. Indeed, this topic is very interesting. And all this attracts, and this material has become the result of this interest, in which all story holsters for pistols and revolvers from the very beginning of their appearance.


German Reiter, middle of the 650th century. Pay attention to the holster to the left of his saddle and the handle of the pistol sticking out of it, inserted pommel forward. Such carrying of weapons in cavalry holsters was not accidental, but was dictated by the peculiarity of the rider's landing. He often had to rise in the stirrups, and in this case, the handles facing the "apple" back would create a certain inconvenience for the rider. Rice. from the book: V. Vuksic, Z. Grbasic. Cavalry. The history of fighting elite 1914BC-AD1994. L.: Cassell, 101. P. XNUMX

The word holster itself is of Turkish origin and can mean "case" and "quiver". In Russia, holsters were also called olsters, olstryads and ingots until the reign of Alexander I, who ordered holsters to be called ... holsters. It went from him, although in itself this belonging to firearms appeared much earlier, namely at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. Appeared along with the cavalry of the pistols - cuirassiers and reiters.



A container for weapons that are always at hand

Pistol holster of the XNUMXth century from the collection of the Historical Museum of Tbilisi

How cavalry holsters were arranged can be judged, for example, by two Turkish holsters from the collection of the British Royal Arsenal. Each of them has a long symmetrical shape, tapering from a flat elliptical section to a rounded one at the muzzle end. Backrests in plain red leather with three loops for attaching to the saddle. The front side is covered with blue velvet embroidered with silver thread with twigs and swirls of foliage, decorated with round plates of gilded silver. Under the main flap is a pouch with its own flap covering a pocket for five rounds. A long braided cord with a tassel at the end hangs down in front, and another similar one hangs on the side. At the bottom there is a hole for the barrel.


Pair of holsters 1771–1799 from the Royal Arsenal at Leeds. Dimensions: length of each holster 430 mm, top width 165 mm. Each holster weighs 0,475 kg

However, these holsters are not quite typical, since they have a valve that completely closes them from above. But usually cavalry holsters of the XVI-XVII centuries. they didn’t have such a valve, but were open from above, so that it would be more convenient to grab the pistols.


French musketeer 1660 with pistol holsters at the saddle. Rice. from the book: V. Vuksic, Z. Grbasic. Cavalry. The history of fighting elite 650BC-AD1914. L.: Cassell, 1994. P. 127


Cavalry holsters, similar to those shown in the previous picture, from the collection of the Landzeughaus in Graz, Austria

It should be noted that the improvement of handguns did not lead to any noticeable changes in the design of the holster. Throughout the XNUMXth century and most of the XNUMXth century, holsters for pistols, first wheeled and later flintlocks, were the property of the cavalry.

The infantrymen, if they had pistols with them, then wore them - firstly, plugging them into the belt or on the shoulder strap of the cartridge bag. To do this, a special bracket was made on the left of the pistol (there was a flintlock on the right!), And it was for this bracket that the pistol was hooked to the belt. Secondly, leather loops were used on the sling and on the belt. They included the barrel of a pistol, but, naturally, it could not advance further than a flintlock through such a loop. Such loops were always located in front, so that the pistol (or pistols, if there were several) was always at hand.


Austrian cuirassier 1710 Fig. from the book: V. Vuksic, Z. Grbasic. Cavalry. The history of fighting elite 650BC-AD1914. L.: Cassell, 1994. P. 161

As for the cavalry, the holsters for pistols were attached to the front pommel of the saddle for a very long time. In particular, in the era of the Napoleonic Wars, they began to sew a cloth valve on the outside and depict on it the same monogram as on the back corner of the saddle cloth.


Note that in the East, similar saddle holsters were also used for as long as in Europe. Here, for example, is a Turkish saddle with two holsters from 1800–1830. from the collection of the Duke of York. Royal Arsenal, Leeds

Holsters for riders have long been made by saddlers, as they were sewn together with the saddle and finished in the same style. That is, both the saddle and both holsters made up the saddle set. Therefore, it is not surprising that the nobles who bought saddles with holsters for service in the royal cavalry were concerned about their weight, and they tried to reduce it in every possible way so as not to force the horse to carry an extra load, which was already rather big, and the horse did not add agility in any way.


Holsters and saddle pads of the Saxon cavalry guards, 1812. It was with them "on the field in the rye" that our cuirassiers met during the battle of Borodino and the battle at the Semenovsky ravine. Rice. from the book: V. Vuksic, Z. Grbasic. Cavalry. The history of fighting elite 650BC-AD1914. L.: Cassell, 1994. P. 191

The appearance of capsule revolvers, the same famous Colts, led to the birth of holsters, which were no longer worn on the pommel of the saddle, but on the belt so that they were always at hand and could provide the owner of two such revolvers with the opportunity to fire 10-12 shots in a matter of seconds . Having more than two revolvers, however, became difficult, both due to their high cost and significant weight.


Texas Ranger 1861. Pay attention to the handle of the revolver. She, by tradition, looks forward, although the rider has a belt. Moreover, on the belt on the left, so that it would be convenient to snatch the revolver from the holster with the right hand! Rice. from the book: V. Vuksic, Z. Grbasic. Cavalry. The history of fighting elite 650BC-AD1914. L.: Cassell, 1994. P. 203

In the army, however, other holsters became widespread, already with a valve that closed the revolver inside. We can see such holsters in many photographs of the American Civil War period. But there were a lot of types of holsters at that time, in fact, every revolver had its own holster!


American trooper 1861–1865 Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York


Semi-closed holster for the American revolver "Colt-Buntline" 1873. On the left is a belt pouch for cartridges for it with the emblem of the American army


Open holster for Smith & Wesson double action revolver. A finger cutout allows you to grab a revolver from it and immediately fire a shot.

Since the skins at the disposal of the same cowboys were in abundance, very often they made their own holsters, and of the most whimsical design.


Here is one of these cowboys, and the text that accompanies this photo is revealing: “As the settler invades cattle country more and more, the cowboy and the romance of his vocation are rapidly approaching the point where they will exist only on the silver screen. and in the Wild West Show,” from an April 1916 report. United States. Photo by Franklin Price Knott, National Geographic Fix»

It should already be noted here that one of the most important functions of the holster is to cover the trigger. The fact is that many owners of short-barreled firearms previously preferred and now prefer to carry it with a cartridge in the chamber in order to immediately use it if necessary. Although considered dangerous by some, virtually all modern handguns are designed to be carried this way, as modern handguns are equipped with safety catches that prevent accidental firing before the trigger is pulled.


Pistol "Mauser" M1910 caliber 6,35 mm ...


... and a semi-closed holster for concealed carry


However, even for this not too large pistol, a wooden butt holster was also developed. That's even how!


And this is a leather belt holster for the Mauser M1910 pistol in 6,35 mm caliber. Photo Morphy Auctions

The risk of an accidental shot is also reduced by the use of a holster that blocks access to the trigger. Holsters specifically designed for each given model of firearm work best in this regard. Holsters that are made of stiffer materials also provide better protection against tampering with the trigger of a holstered pistol or revolver.

To be continued ...
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  1. +3
    April 19 2022 17: 24
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich.
    But, indeed, we forgot about these attributes ... Well, from the PM, everyone knows, from the "Mauser" Bolo ... From the Nagant and TT. And the rest?
    1. +2
      April 19 2022 20: 18
      Good evening!
      Surprisingly, Vyacheslav Olegovich, having covered in sufficient detail the topic of the history of the cavalry holster, has not yet touched on its incarnation - "sea"!
      While the riders were loading the horses with their "toys", the sea brethren had to carry such "happiness" on their "hump", well, or on the "belly".
      The most extravagant is probably Tyutch's baldric (partupey), which allowed carrying from four to eight flintlock pistols and even using them to a limited extent without refilling them.
      1. +2
        April 19 2022 20: 25
        Well, "to be continued ..." You look, and it will come to the sea!)))
      2. +5
        April 19 2022 21: 47
        The most extravagant is Tyutch's bandage (partupey), which allowed to carry from four to eight flintlock pistols
        And the great Russian poet Edward Ivanovich Tyutchev wore fuses for his flintlock pistols in a thick black beard! )))
        1. +2
          April 19 2022 22: 19
          "There lived an old man with a gray beard,
          Who exclaimed all day: “Be in trouble!
          Two crows and a siskin,
          Heron, duck and swift
          They made nests in my beard! ”(c).
          1. +3
            April 19 2022 22: 23
            What an extensive ornithological collection! Straight, "Clutch, Half Shoes and Moss Beard"!
        2. +1
          April 20 2022 04: 50
          Perhaps Anton, I made a mistake in the surname, but our Tyutchev definitely did not have relatives in pirates. Although the devil only knows, we had enough ukshuniks and Cossacks of our own!
          1. +3
            April 20 2022 05: 27
            I thought it was another whim of your phone. "Blackbeard" was called Edward Teach.
    2. +4
      April 19 2022 23: 04
      Another carbolite holster-butt for the APS, and a completely monstrous product - a holster for the AKSU, which the helicopter pilots had!
      1. +4
        April 20 2022 05: 42
        Quote: saygon66
        a completely monstrous product - a holster for AKSU, which the helicopter pilots had!

        Didn't know about it...
  2. +10
    April 19 2022 17: 30
    Good evening everyone! smile

    Vyacheslav, thank you, the topic is completely unexpected, but quite logical. All liked it good but a sequel is definitely needed.

    The infantrymen, if they had pistols with them, then wore them - firstly, plugging them into their belts or on the shoulder strap of the cartridge bag. To do this, a special bracket was made on the left of the pistol (there was a flintlock on the right!)

    With difficulty I found one sample of a pistol with this bracket.



    At the same time I downloaded (if I got caught) a photo of a Belgian officer's pistol of the XNUMXth century with a holster. Cute and on topic.

    1. +4
      April 19 2022 21: 27
      With difficulty I found one sample of a pistol with this bracket.
      Now these are equipped with cordless screwdrivers.
  3. +3
    April 19 2022 18: 18
    Thank you very much, interesting article and beautiful illustrations
  4. +4
    April 19 2022 20: 40
    Texas Ranger 1861. Pay attention to the handle of the revolver. She, by tradition, looks forward, although the rider has a belt. Moreover, on the belt on the left, so that it would be convenient to snatch the revolver from the holster with the right hand!
    ,, for a ranger it might work, but the main weapon of the dragoon is a carbine, which is carried in a special case when saddling, and in a combat situation it is held in the right hand. If the dragoon entered into close combat, then the saber was already in the right hand. At the same time, both with a carbine and with melee weapons in one hand, it might become necessary to make a quick shot from some kind of auxiliary weapon. And here revolvers came to the rescue! In order to easily and quickly grab a short-barreled weapon for a shot when the right hand is busy, a holster with it was hung under the left hand on the right side. Thus, the holster hung, as it were, backwards. This is because sitting on a horse is much more convenient to draw a weapon with an oblique movement.

    1. +4
      April 19 2022 21: 49
      Hello, Sergey! smile
      And here is already a clear bust in the means.
    2. +3
      April 19 2022 21: 52
      "under the left hand on the right side" there can be no talk of any aimed shooting. Just bang and that's it.
      If the enemy is at a distance of 5-7 steps, it does not play a role, but at a distance of 10-15 meters it is already desirable to aim. From the left hand, only a few shoot well ..
      I know from the literature that "two-handed": they shoot beautifully from the left and right hands. In my life, I once saw such a person: he shot from a hunting rifle with two hands and shot well
      1. +3
        April 19 2022 22: 08
        Just bang and that's it.
        , and that's the thing.
      2. +4
        April 19 2022 22: 14
        Good evening to you, Svyatoslav!
        I know from the literature that "two-handed": they shoot beautifully from the left and right hands. In my life, I saw such a person once


        Here I was not a two-armed child, but an incident came out - I was injured in my right hand, for almost two months I had a plaster cast and a tight blocking bandage.
        It turned out that the most difficult thing with this configuration of limbs is not shooting. And not even brushing your teeth, shaving and, sorry, other toilet procedures. Ambush - fly and buttons on uniforms, sharpened exclusively for the right hand.
        But now I can do almost everything with my left hand. Shooting with a pistol is no worse than a right one. But writing, alas, did not get the hang of it. Well, that is, I can write, then not everyone will undertake to read request .

        Best regards,
        hi
        1. +4
          April 20 2022 05: 50
          Dear Mikhail! I didn’t have a wound in my arm, but somehow it occurred to me to develop both arms. I read how. It turns out that in order for the hands to be very developed, it is necessary ... to disassemble with one hand, without releasing, a ballpoint or ink pen. Dismantled, then reassembled - that's all! At first it did not come out with the right, then it did not come out with the left. Then... it came out. He seduced these girls-students. Then it turned out that this is an excellent training for shooting with both the right and left hands!
          1. +2
            April 20 2022 08: 51
            At first it did not come out with the right, then it did not come out with the left. Then... it came out. He seduced these girls-students.


            What a prankster you are, Vyacheslav Olegovich! lol

            Best regards,
            hi
            1. +2
              April 20 2022 13: 38
              Quote: OldMichael
              What a prankster you are

              And you try! You know how great! And in his youth ... oh ... it was. And he "seduced" his future wife by taking him to a shooting gallery, shooting at a nail that was hanging, and when it was swinging, he shot at the swinging one, and ... hit. Both hands and eyes were different. Well, how can you say no?
        2. +2
          April 20 2022 11: 43
          So life has developed that written with the right hand, I can’t always do it myself. Not talking about others
    3. +2
      April 19 2022 21: 53
      Oh, Sergey is back!
      Glad to welcome!
      1. +3
        April 19 2022 22: 09
        Hello, I'm back from a month long ban.
        1. +2
          April 19 2022 22: 17
          Yes. I noticed. I assume the reasons for the ban.
          By the way, can you send alternative channels of communication in a personal, please?
  5. +5
    April 19 2022 20: 44
    Good evening, colleagues!
    I've been using this since the late 90s.

    Presented by a senior comrade, leaving the reserve in the late 90s. He himself got it in the same way ten years earlier, after leaving Afghanistan.
    Theoretically, this is an operational holster for PSM, but it accepts both PM and PMM very well. Glock or TT can also be stuffed, but you have to “finish it with a file”.
    The absence of a "pocket" for the second store and "ears" for wiping is never a drawback. Perhaps this is what makes it much more comfortable to wear all the time, unlike a standard PM holster. And I don’t remember cases when a second store would be needed, and I haven’t heard this from colleagues. Because in such cases they take other weapons.
    PS
    In the photo, I covered up the “intimate” information, while the already poorly distinguishable emblem of the manufacturer (Bogorodsk factory) with the release date also suffered. Wikipedia claims that such holsters have been produced since the early 90s, however, 1973 was indicated under the emblem. Now it is almost completely erased, I tried to take a picture with a very “oblique” backlight - it didn’t work out. If someone can shed some light on the history of this wonderful holster, feel free to share your thoughts.
    hi
    1. +3
      April 19 2022 21: 30
      Wikipedia claims that such holsters have been produced since the early 90s

      Vicki is deceiving you and us, I have had the same "RAM" since 1982 - also a gift from an older friend, I don't know what year it was, but it was very shabby.
      And I myself also donated to the next one, maybe someone is still carrying request .
      Best regards hi
      And thanks a lot to Vyacheslav Olegovich - he just cheered me up fellow !!!
      1. +3
        April 19 2022 21: 43
        And I myself also donated to the next one, maybe someone is still carrying


        Oh, Mikhalych!
        Now it's time for me to hand over. But I am inclined to leave this holster as an exclusive souvenir for my sons. My wife once reproached me: you gave away everything to your friends - award watches, hats, daggers ... Save something for the children as a keepsake!
        And it looks like she's right. From my paternal grandfather, there was a pre-revolutionary pocket watch (also premium), a razor and a single photograph dated 1907, which depicts four people in military uniform and with indistinguishable faces. All with mustaches and sabers (checkers?). And there is reason to believe that grandfather lived a very eventful life. Only now there is no one to ask about it.
        hi
        1. +3
          April 19 2022 22: 12
          you gave away everything to your friends

          And even fishing rods, spinning rods, spinners...
          And I sold all my guns (all three and a carbine in addition), when I realized that I could no longer run through the fields and forests, but we live for now and we will live as long as they allow it up there and for now ... someone needs it here. recourse
          What do you all colleagues wish! drinks
    2. +1
      April 19 2022 21: 57
      "wonderful holster", it seems, operational holsters appeared in the mid-70s
      1. +1
        April 19 2022 22: 20
        it seems that operational holsters appeared in the mid-70s

        So that's what it's about, Svyatoslav!
        On the holster in a rectangular pressed "stamp" under the name of the manufacturer were the numbers "1973". The stamp was worn out, there was a time when this holster was used intensively.
        hi
        1. +1
          April 20 2022 11: 38
          In this case, yours, one of the first?
          I remember that our district policeman, in the early 70s, had a dark brown, and after a while it was light yellow and without a top valve, with a strap across the handle.
          Was there a spare clip? I don't remember anymore
          1. 0
            April 20 2022 12: 03
            light yellow and without a top valve, with a strap across the handle.

            I saw something similar for TT. There was definitely no pocket. Where did the second store go? I don't pretend...
    3. +3
      April 20 2022 05: 06
      If someone can shed some light on the history of this wonderful holster, feel free to share your thoughts.

      Rare thing "operational holster for concealed carry." Police operatives were forbidden to use them, so the latter, by hook or by crook, tried to squeeze such products from their senior comrades from the KGB. There were stories that in the mid-80s they gave up to a box of "vodka" for RAM.
      About convenience. The most optimal location of the patch (pocket) of the operational holster for a spare magazine is in front (along the barrel).
      1. +4
        April 20 2022 06: 19
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        therefore, by hook or by crook, the latter tried to squeeze such products from their senior comrades from the KGB. There were stories that in the mid-80s they gave up to a box of "vodka" for RAM.

        Yes, any shoemaker will bungle such a holster in a couple of hours. Why give the box away?
        1. +3
          April 20 2022 09: 29
          Hello Vladimir!
          Yes, any shoemaker will bungle such a holster in a couple of hours.


          As far as I understand, it's not that simple.
          The inner half is clearly rawhide, but the outer half is tanned, moreover, after molding. A block is required for molding. Previously, the pads were cut out of linden, now, probably, polymeric hardeners can be used.
          It won't come out in a couple of hours. Only one tanning - a couple of weeks (if "according to the classics").

          Best regards,
          hi
          1. +3
            April 20 2022 09: 49
            Quote: OldMichael
            Previously, the pads were cut out of linden, now, probably, polymeric hardeners can be used.
            It won't come out in a couple of hours. Only one tanning - a couple of weeks (if "according to the classics").

            I just sewed it on the block on wet skin, and let it harden itself. This is if primitive. I make the scabbard myself, there is nothing complicated there. The only thing is that in modern Russia there is no normal leather, today's craftsmen buy it in the USA, but it was in the USSR, a few years ago I bought the last pieces from an old shoemaker I knew. With stamping "1 grade". Yes, and many operas, who love to make things, make their own RAMs, to their taste. I saw something very simple, homemade, from a bunch of straps in the 90s, on the American theme.
            P.S. I wrote, and then I saw your message below on the topic of homemade ones.
        2. +2
          April 20 2022 09: 47
          hi
          Some "comrades" argued that one should live in harmony with the "neighbors". feel
          IMHO, a box of vodka in the 80s for something is like now some Hennessy XO on December 20 or "let's exchange watches as a keepsake" ("yellow" or "white" metal). Sometimes, for friendship, they used "oh, an extra mobile phone, don't you need it?" (simple Vertu), but, as they say, "there are no fools" laughing to walk with someone else's mobile.
          1. +2
            April 20 2022 10: 07
            Quote: Wildcat
            a box of vodka in the 80s for something like now some Hennessy XO on December 20 or "let's exchange watches for memory" ("yellow" or "white" metal).

            Well, somehow I remember that they offered me the Voskhod motorcycle for a couple of cases of vodka in the 80s. Liquid currency, man.
            1. +1
              April 20 2022 16: 43
              "liquid currency" in the village was traditionally settled with a bottle
      2. +2
        April 20 2022 09: 14
        Hello Vladislav!
        Thank you for enlightening.
        The most optimal location of the patch (pocket) of the operational holster for a spare magazine is in front (along the barrel).

        In my opinion, "hidden carry" and "spare magazine" are not very compatible in meaning. Although, perhaps, police-militia operas look at it differently.
        I had no need for secrecy. Now young people are experimenting with different models, someone is creating interesting homemade products. You often see something like this:

        But, in principle, it's a matter of taste.
        Best regards,
        hi
        1. +2
          April 20 2022 16: 48
          Mikhail, are these "homemade" obvious imitations of "branded" ones?
          It seems that Vlad Borisovich saw a similar
          1. +1
            April 20 2022 17: 12
            explicit imitation of "firm"?
            Yes. Only here it is not leather, but synthetics.
      3. +2
        April 20 2022 09: 38
        hi
        About convenience. The most optimal location of the patch (pocket) of the operational holster for a spare magazine in front (along the barrel)
        IMHO, if the holster is "to the right on / under the belt", then isn't it more convenient to keep the spare magazine "under the left hand"?
        For the "axillary" holster, some users argued that for balance it is more convenient to mount magazines on it on the right, and it seems to be more invisible under the jacket than on the belt ...
      4. +1
        April 20 2022 09: 47
        PS
        In the safe next to the holster I have a candle stub.

        Guess what for?
        hi
        1. +3
          April 20 2022 09: 53
          For threads / seams?
          I do it myself feel
          1. +3
            April 20 2022 10: 29
            For threads / seams?

            No. Smoke a fly!
            On the old PSM, there is no such problem, but on the relatively new PMM, after a year of operation, scuffs began to appear, the front sight shone like eggs from a diligent cat. Burning figurative.
            Soot from a lighter is blown off at once, from a match - a little better, but also not ice. A candle gives a stable soot, thick and matte.
            Good morning to you!
            1. +3
              April 20 2022 13: 43
              Quote: OldMichael
              No. Smoke a fly!
              On the old PSM, there is no such problem, but on the relatively new PMM, after a year of operation, scuffs began to appear, the front sight shone like eggs from a diligent cat. Burning figurative.
              Soot from a lighter is blown off at once, from a match - a little better, but also not ice. A candle gives a stable soot, thick and matte.

              It will be necessary to insert another novel ...
  6. +4
    April 19 2022 21: 28
    Q. Oh, thank you for not forgetting my request: tell me about the holster.
    I naively thought that pistols were worn behind a belt or a saddle bag.
    1. +3
      April 20 2022 05: 54
      It's bad that I, Svyatoslav, forget WHO asked. Surprisingly, I remember a lot of things, but for some reason I can’t remember the names and surnames of people. Only rare and then after a long "use".
  7. +7
    April 19 2022 21: 35
    A little more about holsters ...)))

    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. +3
      April 20 2022 05: 57
      And thank you, Anton. I have never seen such a thing. But a drill such as a weapon is a great thing. Especially in melee!
      1. +1
        April 20 2022 06: 10
        Not efficient, but effective. It is clearly shown in the film "Striptease".
  8. +6
    April 19 2022 23: 25
    hi
    The two funniest, so to speak, holsters that I have seen ... winked

    1. +4
      April 20 2022 05: 55
      Holster-purse - the antiquity is still the same!
      1. +3
        April 20 2022 09: 27
        hi
        In a holster-purse, IMHO, the meaning was in the era of monetary circulation with the participation of coins! For example, a robber demands - a wallet or a life! Well, you can get a wallet, meet these requirements with the help of "copper around lead" ... fellow
        And now how to get a crook who is trying to steal money over the phone like "Sberbank's security service"? request

        Modern versions of holsters, especially sports holsters, look even worse than a purse holster: a piece of plastic, sometimes with a release button, sometimes even without it. request The pistol is practically open to "all winds" ... Although there is a benefit from them, somewhere in 1-2 seconds "from start to first shot" with such a holster is real. laughing

        The old leather holsters somehow protected the weapons more carefully and looked more solid and beautiful. The "English version" looked especially funny, but solid, with a cord around the neck. Now so, IMHO, the Royal Mounted Police in Canada only wears.
        1. +2
          April 20 2022 09: 45
          The same cords: revolving, worn in the army, police and gendarmerie of the Russian Empire.
          1. +1
            April 20 2022 09: 59
            Previously, yes, often seen in the photo / pictures.
            Now, if anyone wears a cord, then basically IMHO "telephone" ones are made of plastic, with a holster mount - they don't hang anywhere, they are not particularly noticeable and hold up well. Even the old, IMHO (were there leather ones?) I haven’t seen the cords for a long time.
            1. +2
              April 20 2022 10: 13
              There are simple ones, leather ones, and even with a cover so that they don’t hang out. But with the "carbines" of the remake cords - trouble! Bent from ordinary wire ....
  9. +1
    April 20 2022 10: 22
    Dear Kote Pane Kokhanka (Vladislav), I have never heard anywhere that any of the leaders forbade the use of such a holster, although each hut has its own rattles ... I received such a gift in Tallinn from a mentor in the mid-80s. Over the years, the rear sight of the PM 2 holes has been blown, the seam, which is clearly visible
    in the photo that OldMichael (Mikhail) posted, and the bottom seam, on the slot for threading the waist belt, had to be altered with modern synthetic threads.
  10. +2
    April 20 2022 10: 47
    OldMichael (Mikhail), rubbed with a thin layer of paraffin?
    And I wore a spare magazine in a pocket on my chest or on my sleeve, there was a comfortable jacket made of artificial Japanese leather sewn. True, for many, many years I often carried a cartridge in the chamber and 8 rounds in the store, after my wife said that she needed me alive, even after Nizhny Tagil she would be waiting for me. After a sad story with one opera of the Severodvinsk UR and the glorious prosecutor's office of the city of Severodvinsk ... Boys and girls in blue uniforms in warm offices can rant on 5 points about legality. True, not a single correct kid, with something heavy in his hands, was laid to rest on the snow ...
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      April 20 2022 14: 52
      rubbed with a thin layer of paraffin?

      No. I answered above: I smoked the PMM fly.
      hi
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    April 21 2022 13: 13
    Wildcat (Wildcat), dear, are you talking about those who are still serving with a revolver today? Or about pistol straps for PM and other pistols?
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    10 October 2022 23: 20
    Quote: OldMichael
    In my opinion, "hidden carry" and "spare magazine" are not very compatible in meaning.

    As practice shows, it is better for a commander at the front, or an adviser, to also hide the gun somehow. The “other side” has snipers, and if not, then the commander or adviser is a priority target for machine gunners as well. Three rules of the American military correspondent, applicable to the rest:
    Carry your gun discreetly
    Hide your binoculars in your backpack
    If everyone is digging or dragging, do the same.