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The Ministry of Defense showed footage of the destruction of a column of equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine by a pair of Ka-52 helicopters

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The Russian Ministry of Defense continues to publish a video about the use of Russian weapons as part of a military special operation to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine. Another video of the military department shows the work of attack helicopters Ka-52.


The description for the video says that Russian Ka-52 helicopters destroyed armored vehicles and anti-aircraft installations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, using missiles and small arms. The turntables worked in pairs, from a short distance, at low altitudes, in order to exclude defeat by portable anti-aircraft systems.

As repeatedly reported in the Ministry of Defense, the army aviation quite actively used in the framework of the special operation. Helicopters not only escort columns and deliver cargo, but also destroy enemy armored vehicles, land troops and even participate in "free hunting" at night.



Well, another video from the military, this time of the destruction of a Ukrainian armored personnel carrier by a pinpoint missile strike by a Russian drone. As follows from the description, the armored personnel carrier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was hidden in the industrial area, but was discovered by the strike drone of the Russian Armed Forces and destroyed. Where the action took place is not reported, but it looks like one of the industrial zones of Mariupol. On the territory of the same "Azovstal" there is a rather large number of armored vehicles of the nationalists, hidden there in advance.

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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 10 2022 14: 06
    +7
    Bang! And the smoke went...
    1. NIKN
      NIKN April 10 2022 14: 07
      +7
      from a short distance, at low altitudesto exclude defeat by portable anti-aircraft systems.
      Error or incompetence of the author? The described conditions are far from the desired exclusion of the defeat of MANPADS.
      1. sen
        sen April 10 2022 14: 14
        +16
        Mistake or incompetence? The described conditions are far from the desired exclusion of the defeat of MANPADS.

        You can shoot, but the range of the shot and the time spent under fire will be less. In addition, there is an onboard protection complex. The other side of the coin is that the helicopter becomes more vulnerable to small arms, although there is armor for the cockpit and the most important components.
        1. NIKN
          NIKN April 10 2022 14: 29
          +4
          Quote: sen
          the time spent under fire will be less. In addition, there is an onboard protection complex.

          It has already been written about the protection complex, that the reaction time also does not allow it to react from short ranges. request + as you correctly pointed out,
          Quote: sen
          the helicopter becomes more vulnerable to small arms,
          There was also a story that an automatic bullet disabled the fuel system, they barely managed to reach the intermediate platform. Come on, the point is that the conditions described are far from safe. It's like "granddaughter, fly lower and quieter ..
          1. Normann
            Normann April 10 2022 15: 01
            0
            All combat vehicles have redundancy of the main systems.
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor April 10 2022 20: 43
              0
              thank you for expressing the well-known idea hi
        2. Clear
          Clear April 10 2022 16: 34
          +5
          Quote: sen
          Mistake or incompetence? The described conditions are far from the desired exclusion of the defeat of MANPADS.

          You can shoot, but the range of the shot and the time spent under fire will be less. In addition, there is an onboard protection complex. The other side of the coin is that the helicopter becomes more vulnerable to small arms, although there is armor for the cockpit and the most important components.

          It seems that the pilot says that ... I work from the maximum distance ...
      2. Alesi13
        Alesi13 April 10 2022 14: 19
        +5
        Commentator's incompetence
      3. Emergency
        Emergency April 10 2022 14: 58
        +1
        "Portable" apparently typed by mistake.
      4. not main
        not main April 10 2022 20: 43
        +1
        Quote: NIKNN
        from a short distance, at low altitudesto exclude defeat by portable anti-aircraft systems.
        Error or incompetence of the author? The described conditions are far from the desired exclusion of the defeat of MANPADS.

        Each type of aviation has its own ways of dealing with MANPADS! If Frontline Aviation can go up, then Army Aviation cannot! MANPADS in height reach 5000 meters or more! At the same time, a helicopter with TV3-117, VK_2500 engines (which is the same thing), and these are all medium Russian helicopters, have a ceiling of 4500 meters. Already wrote about it! By the way, look at the experience of Afghanistan! They did the exact same thing!
      5. Ka-52
        Ka-52 April 11 2022 07: 50
        -1
        from a short distance, at low altitudes, in order to exclude defeat by portable anti-aircraft systems.
        Error or incompetence of the author? The described conditions are far from the desired exclusion of the defeat of MANPADS.

        no error. To reduce the missile danger, it is always necessary to minimize the time spent above the target or at the line of use of weapons. MANPADS shooter requires 5 seconds. to prepare for launch, another 3-5 sec. to capture and unlock the coordinator until the sound (light) signal and start. Still the shooter needs to follow the elevation. Those 10 seconds are important to the helicopter pilot. therefore, the entrance to the attack zone and the exit from it under conditions of opposition must be carried out from low altitudes, hiding behind the relief and forest.
  2. jovanni
    jovanni April 10 2022 14: 11
    +6
    So it would be a duty to organize the districts from where the "grads" and "dots-y" in Donetsk are naughty and our other territories. Defeat them all, these freaks...
  3. Vitaly161
    Vitaly161 April 10 2022 14: 14
    +5
    and the Alligator shows itself very well, as I see it, 100% the future workhorse of the army aviation of the RF Armed Forces, but the Mi-28 is not so actively used for some reason
  4. Serving the Fatherland
    Serving the Fatherland April 10 2022 14: 22
    +1
    Quote: Vitaliy161
    and the Alligator shows itself very well, as I see it, 100% the future workhorse of the army aviation of the RF Armed Forces, but the Mi-28 is not so actively used for some reason

    There was an article about both machines, pros and cons, and working together. If memory serves, they are even more effective in the help.
    1. Vitaly161
      Vitaly161 April 10 2022 14: 28
      +1
      Quote: Serving_fatherland
      Quote: Vitaliy161
      and the Alligator shows itself very well, as I see it, 100% the future workhorse of the army aviation of the RF Armed Forces, but the Mi-28 is not so actively used for some reason

      There was an article about both machines, pros and cons, and working together. If memory serves, they are even more effective in the help.

      she works in pairs in the Donbass (a bunch of videos) namely Mi 28 + Ka 52, and the last one is like Ka always)
  5. Avgusk
    Avgusk April 10 2022 14: 24
    -4
    To be honest, I did not see any column. Or throw off a screenshot from the video with an arrow on the column.
    1. Vitaly161
      Vitaly161 April 10 2022 14: 30
      0
      Quote from Avgusk
      To be honest, I did not see any column. Or throw off a screenshot from the video with an arrow on the column.

      what do you want to see behind the explosions and flashes? there, even from the ground, after such working off, you can’t make out anything until it goes out
      1. Nikolay1987
        Nikolay1987 April 10 2022 15: 01
        -3
        We want, as in the films about Rimbaud)) Excuse me, they themselves showed us this)) We want to shoot from different angles, with explosions, with a tricolor painted by God himself, who is for Us, behind the helicopter wink
        1. Vitaly161
          Vitaly161 April 10 2022 15: 54
          +2
          Quote: Nikolay1987
          We want, as in the films about Rimbaud)) Excuse me, they themselves showed us this)) We want to shoot from different angles, with explosions, with a tricolor painted by God himself, who is for Us, behind the helicopter wink

          it’s good that our people can use sarcasm even in such a difficult time)
    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U April 10 2022 14: 47
      +1
      Quote from Avgusk
      To be honest, I did not see any column.

      Attack along the road is clearly not for a single target.
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 10 2022 14: 56
      0
      Quote from Avgusk
      To be honest, I did not see any column. Or throw off a screenshot from the video with an arrow on the column.

      Can't you send a microscope with a parcel? Well, I didn't see it, so what? Whether you see it or not, the column will not be resurrected and no one will feel hot or cold.
    4. Emergency
      Emergency April 10 2022 15: 05
      +2
      Not at the cinema, however. winked
  6. Call Sign Almaz
    Call Sign Almaz April 10 2022 14: 26
    +5
    Helicopter for 15 million dollars hits the milk and is substituted under the memory or KPVT, substitutes rare trained valuable pilots, and why these 2 tons of load? Why these NARs in 2022? Already lost more than 5 units worth 75 million + trained pilots. MANPADS drive him to ultra-small ones where you can’t really see anything and it’s also quite dangerous, the accuracy of unguided weapons is not great in terms of flatness at such a speed and height.


    A strike UAV like the Chinese WingLong or our Orion-E, which cost around 2 million (three times cheaper than a bayraktar), this is three times more eyes at an altitude of more than 5000 meters, the ability to hover on the ground for several hours and an instant pinpoint strike with its KAB-20 or call a kamikaze drone.

    Ukraine has broken fighter aircraft and strong air defense, which can massively hit above 5 km, it requires a strike UAV like Bayraktar, several hundred units are ideal tasks: to knock out equipment and artillerymen in dense urban agglomerations.

    If there was a strong fleet of strike UAVs, Ukrainians could be calmly punished, and their human shield equipment did not save them, equipment and artillery would be knocked out en masse near schools and children. gardens, without much destruction, after that the West would not have sent anything from their warehouses because there is no point.

    This year, there is nowhere to get our shock UAVs in large numbers - we need Chinese and Persian Land-Lease with crews and payment in gold, we need several hundred strikers for jewelry work on the Slavic-Kramatorsk group, in Kharkov, in Nikolaev.

    This greed and stupidity, attempts to save on unguided NARs, NURs and aerial bombs, led to sad results, it was necessary to launch guided weapons into a series and not develop new platforms for unguided ones.

    The strike UAV Orion can be shot down by an adult air defense system for tens of billions in which there are s-300, BUK, Pantsir and rare specialists or a fleet of fighters for a large amount, as soon as fighters and air defense are burned by 80% - this apparatus becomes invulnerable.

    But Armata or Msta can be burned by any fanatic of the football club Kryvbas who will be sent on a suicidal mission with an NLAW rocket for $ 20, and there will be an infinite number of such rockets and fanatics. A helicopter or an attack aircraft can also be shot down by thousands of Papuans with stingers, which were produced immeasurably.

    It is necessary to dance from means of destruction. You need to fight massively with something that can only be amazed by piece systems for billions for which you need to train personnel for a long, long time, and not by something that is easily amazed by endless free fanatics and endless penny firecrackers.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 10 2022 14: 43
      -3
      Exactly. A UAV with a couple of hundred GC loads will kill the entire column.
      1. Call Sign Almaz
        Call Sign Almaz April 10 2022 14: 48
        +3
        That's just the point, that will kill!

        1 KA-52 is 5 Orions with a 200kg load and each of them hits a cross. + an infinite number of Kamikaze drones that will arrive on the whistle in 10 minutes.

        In Karabakh, the Azerbaijanis had less than 50 shock drones and about 1000 kamikaze drones.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 April 10 2022 14: 53
          0
          Exactly. They fly in squadrons. And a kamikaze can easily overcome a couple of hundred kilometers. And all this in areas of hundreds of thousands of square kilometers.
          1. Call Sign Almaz
            Call Sign Almaz April 10 2022 14: 59
            -5
            Please, fly at least in formations, who will shoot them down and with what?
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 April 10 2022 15: 10
              +5
              I'm not talking about tgm. Turntables go in pairs in search, find the target themselves and work. Throwing out everything that is. But the UAV is limited by its BC. A couple of pinpoint shots and that's it. The column moves on. I have not heard about 5 KA 52. Heard about three. For a month and a half of daily work, they have already paid for themselves several times if you decide to compare the cost of weapons. It is clear that UAVs are needed and a lot. Just to assume that they will decide everything without army aviation is more than strange. Ka 52 is an extremely necessary machine and shows itself more than perfectly. And there will be rumblers. Moreover, they are included in the new state defense order in full. Take Chinese? Yes, there are a lot of articles here as they are falling apart among buyers. Money down the drain.
              1. Call Sign Almaz
                Call Sign Almaz April 11 2022 13: 40
                -1
                The search is much better at an altitude of 6000 meters from several devices than from one KA-52 that flies at 10-30 meters.

                What columns? There are no columns, everyone is sitting in cities, and you are talking about some kind of columns ... you talk about theory, the reality is completely different.

                And even if there is a rare column - aim with a laser and knock out one car after another with the help of kamikaze drones that will fly in as much as necessary, at least a couple of hundred.
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 April 11 2022 13: 51
                  -1
                  Drones are limited to their range of 40-50 km. Search at 6000 m or full-fledged radar on ka 52. Who will discover more? The UAV sect has been killing me lately. Maybe at the same time, you can also offer to take the city in a dispensational way?
        2. lucul
          lucul April 10 2022 15: 03
          +3
          In Karabakh, the Azerbaijanis had

          There were the same Bayraktars that Ukraine now has .... but the army of the Russian Federation is not the army of Armenia.
          1. Call Sign Almaz
            Call Sign Almaz April 10 2022 15: 14
            +4
            As I wrote, the Russian Army is capable of massively destroying Male-class attack UAVs, there are fighters and AWACS. What was done!

            The problem is different!!!

            The army of Ukraine is unable to hit the MALE UAV or is only sporadically capable! in general, there is nothing! and NATO AWACS from Poland does not see our Pacers, unlike the Su-34! then their remnants of BUKs should be put on standby mode and not on ambush, and a gift immediately arrives to them!

            But it is very capable of massively hitting tanks, Su-34, KA-52 with the help of firecrackers and mobs. reserve!

            DO YOU UNDERSTAND????
            1. lucul
              lucul April 10 2022 15: 24
              -6
              DO YOU UNDERSTAND????

              Can't you hit a UAV with a Stinger? ))))
              1. Andy_nsk
                Andy_nsk April 10 2022 16: 52
                +3
                Can't you hit a UAV with a Stinger? ))))

                Most UAVs (Inohodets and the like) have piston aircraft engines and a propeller, and Stingers have an IR homing head, they are aimed at the engine exhaust, so there is practically no chance of hitting the Inohodets with a stinger. Alligators have gas turbine engines, high-temperature exhaust, Stingers will be aimed at it, it’s not for nothing that helicopters drop heat traps.
            2. bayard
              bayard April 10 2022 23: 01
              +3
              Quote: Call Sign Almaz
              DO YOU UNDERSTAND????

              You write Almaz right, only the first serial batches of our "Pacers" will be in the troops no earlier than the second half of this year (the first batch was pre-production), and they still need to be mastered in the troops. They were late for the war, even if they went into the series a year earlier, it would already be easier.
              Today, in order to identify enemy air defense systems, subject to external target designation from AWACS, it would be nice to get the old "Peys" from the gas chambers, attach a corner reflector (or lens) to them to provoke air defense and call fire on yourself. And air defense systems can be hit from the standby mode in the air, but at a distance. The target-target must correspond as much as possible to the characteristics of a combat aircraft, and the "Flight" complies with these requirements. Incl. by distance. And Sumerian air defense will not be activated on anyhow from AWACS.
              And to more or less saturate the troops with shock UAVs, it will take another 2-3 years ...
              1. Osipov9391
                Osipov9391 April 11 2022 00: 15
                -1
                Near Nikolaev, apparently, the Su-34 was lost, the Buk worked. The pilots are dead.
                At a time when AWACS hung on the border with Moldova ...
          2. Clear
            Clear April 10 2022 16: 42
            +3
            Quote: lucul
            In Karabakh, the Azerbaijanis had

            There were the same Bayraktars that Ukraine now has .... but the army of the Russian Federation is not the army of Armenia.

            And the territory of Karabakh is not the territory of Ukraine.
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    3. lucul
      lucul April 10 2022 15: 00
      +2
      Already lost more than 5 units worth 75 million + trained pilots

      Can you give proofs about 5 lost Ka-52s and especially about their lost pilots? )))
      1. Vitaly161
        Vitaly161 April 10 2022 16: 01
        0
        Quote: lucul
        Already lost more than 5 units worth 75 million + trained pilots

        Can you give proofs about 5 lost Ka-52s and especially about their lost pilots? )))

        there is definitely one, the video was walking, the pilots died (the remains in the car could be seen)
        and so on the very first day 2 were shot down, one sat down in an emergency near Gostomel on the field (by the way, he was taken away and restored), the 2nd fell into the water, and here is the 3rd at the beginning of the message, and another MO told about it, the pilots ejected (fortunately, nominally ) that is, the 4th, with the intensity of the work of the Alligators, the losses are actually modest
        1. Osipov9391
          Osipov9391 April 11 2022 00: 20
          -1
          Yes, there are at least a dozen Ka-52s lost.
          One recently "Stugnoy" shot down;
          One from Primorye was shot down by a MANPADS and the crew ejected, the Primorye governor confirmed;
          One near Nikolaev was shot down, the pilot burned in the hospital, the navigator died;
          3 near Kiev, several in Donbass.
          About a dozen.
          Su-25s suffer losses from MANPADS, and Su-34s, Su-30SMs and Su-35Ss shoot down sleeping Buks waking up due to external target designation.
          And their losses are greater than the Ka-52.

          Very serious English MANPADS will arrive soon - in fact, military air defense for the poor.
          Helicopters and Su-25s will not be able to fly at all.
          1. Normann
            Normann April 11 2022 03: 15
            -1
            Trouble - trouble, how to fight now? shoot down without having time to rise from the airfield
            1. Osipov9391
              Osipov9391 April 11 2022 03: 35
              +1
              Those things that Britain supplies to Ukraine are very serious - one of the best MANPADS in the world. If you use it wisely, you get a good military air defense against helicopters, attack aircraft and cruise missiles.
          2. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U April 11 2022 04: 09
            0
            Quote: Osipov9391
            One recently "Stugnoy" shot down;

            The next frames from the toy are inscribed in a desperately glaring monitor and filmed on a smartphone bashfully allotted at the moment of "hit".
            Quote: Osipov9391
            Very serious English MANPADS will arrive soon - in fact, military air defense for the poor.
            Helicopters and Su-25s will not be able to fly at all.
            Which ones? "Starstreaks"? Maybe a serious MANPADS, although not tested, but requiring at least, and maybe more, serious operator training. And shitty working in the forest belt!
            1. Maxim G
              Maxim G April 11 2022 09: 56
              +1
              The next frames from the toy are inscribed in a desperately glaring monitor and filmed on a smartphone bashfully allotted at the moment of "hit".


              What toy?
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U April 11 2022 10: 57
                -2
                Quote: Maxim G
                What toy?

                But I don’t know, even for an 8-bit with Dandy, the quality is rotten.
                1. Osipov9391
                  Osipov9391 April 11 2022 13: 33
                  +3
                  And the Su-34 that was shot down near Nikolaev the day before was also struck from a "toy" ?!
                  There, the Buk worked as it did a week ago near Kharkov when the Su-35S was shot down.
                  1. Vladimir_2U
                    Vladimir_2U April 11 2022 14: 06
                    0
                    Quote: Osipov9391
                    And the Su-34 that was shot down near Nikolaev the day before was also struck from a "toy" ?!

                    I write about "Stugna" and Ka-52
          3. Vitaly161
            Vitaly161 April 11 2022 11: 10
            -3
            Quote: Osipov9391
            Yes, there are at least a dozen Ka-52s lost.
            One recently "Stugnoy" shot down;
            One from Primorye was shot down by a MANPADS and the crew ejected, the Primorye governor confirmed;
            One near Nikolaev was shot down, the pilot burned in the hospital, the navigator died;
            3 near Kiev, several in Donbass.
            About a dozen.
            Su-25s suffer losses from MANPADS, and Su-34s, Su-30SMs and Su-35Ss shoot down sleeping Buks waking up due to external target designation.
            And their losses are greater than the Ka-52.

            Very serious English MANPADS will arrive soon - in fact, military air defense for the poor.
            Helicopters and Su-25s will not be able to fly at all.

            and you are a lot of nonsense, there are a couple of confirmed downed rooks (near Kiev), one fell into ours (pilot error) but no more than turntables, so I don’t need to rub your game
            1. Osipov9391
              Osipov9391 April 11 2022 13: 13
              +3
              I am very in the subject - you can close your eyes and assume that no one dies.
              The last lost Su-34 near Nikolaev is the Morozov RF-95010.
              A week ago, a Su-35S was lost near Kharkov - the pilot was captured.
              For rooks, you can not believe me - believe the TV. But how many pilots have they already buried in Russia?
              RF-91969 , RF-91961 , RF-93026 , RF-91958 , RF-90965 and some more, about 4-5. This is for the Su-25SM.
              1. Vitaly161
                Vitaly161 April 11 2022 13: 30
                -1
                Quote: Osipov9391
                I am very in the subject - you can close your eyes and assume that no one dies.
                The last lost Su-34 near Nikolaev is the Morozov RF-95010.
                A week ago, a Su-35S was lost near Kharkov - the pilot was captured.
                For rooks, you can not believe me - believe the TV. But how many pilots have they already buried in Russia?
                RF-91969 , RF-91961 , RF-93026 , RF-91958 , RF-90965 and some more, about 4-5. This is for the Su-25SM.

                I know perfectly well that there are losses, and, unfortunately, they will have such a job, I just judge from those that the onboard ones shine in the photo, neither our Defense Ministry (except for confirming the loss of the side) nor even the Khokhlatsky one, I don’t believe, there is a photo of the onboard one, or confirmation from the MO, then the guys did not return, everything else is work for the enemy, not otherwise
                1. Osipov9391
                  Osipov9391 April 11 2022 13: 43
                  +3
                  So dead pilots are buried in Russia.
                  And among them, there are more than just attack aircraft - Primorsko-Akhtarsk, Borisoglebsk, etc. This is already official data, there is that they died and were buried.
                  And the pilot of the Petrozavodsk Su-35S shot down a week ago is awaiting an exchange.
                  1. Vitaly161
                    Vitaly161 April 11 2022 14: 22
                    -1
                    Quote: Osipov9391
                    So dead pilots are buried in Russia.
                    And among them, there are more than just attack aircraft - Primorsko-Akhtarsk, Borisoglebsk, etc. This is already official data, there is that they died and were buried.
                    And the pilot of the Petrozavodsk Su-35S shot down a week ago is awaiting an exchange.

                    they bury, among those who did not return there are also my classmates, only this does not give rise to panic and stir up the water, the guys are working, do not interfere with them
                    1. Osipov9391
                      Osipov9391 April 11 2022 17: 51
                      +2
                      So I'm not talking about that. We simply state the facts and draw conclusions why and how.
                      If photos of the wreckage with a side number or a special sign (the emblem of the regiment, some animals or the like) appeared on the Internet, then you need to find in the registry whether there is such a side and in which part it serves.
                      If there is, then find out the fate of the crew. If Ukraine declared death and soon coffins came to Russia, then they died.
                      If Ukraine announced the capture, and Russia soon plans to exchange, then the pilots are in captivity and are waiting for the exchange.
                      If neither Ukraine nor Russia reported anything about the fate of the crew, then most likely the pilots were evacuated.
                      True, then, as in the case of ejection from the Ka-52, something may come up.
                      But I have an idea only by what friends report and by what I saw the facts.
                      And I never believed the statements of Ukraine that he shot down 10 or 20 planes. If they didn't show anything.
                      But in principle, for all our confirmed dead pilots that were buried, there is a photo of the wreckage with a tail number.
                      Su-34 Krasnoyartsev over Chernigov caught a MANPADS missile in the engine.
                      The pilot in captivity is waiting for an exchange, the navigator Krivolapov was shot from the ground while parachuting.
          4. Maxim G
            Maxim G April 11 2022 12: 32
            0
            Konstantin, this is not the first time you have cited the losses of our aviation - could you give a detailed answer on the losses, with screenshots, videos, etc., in order to avoid misunderstandings from incompetent persons.
            1. Osipov9391
              Osipov9391 April 11 2022 13: 17
              +2
              It is clear that I will not publish and disclose everything, but this is the last Su-34 that was shot down near Nikolaev ...
              1. Maxim G
                Maxim G April 11 2022 13: 25
                0
                I would like to completely POST on all losses with dates, type of aircraft, etc., in order to add up the picture, now it is extremely difficult to do this while the Ministry of Defense is silent.
                1. Osipov9391
                  Osipov9391 April 11 2022 13: 31
                  +2
                  For obvious reasons, this cannot be done. But I will say that there are losses in all types of tactical aircraft - Su-30SM, Su-34, Su-35S.
                  This Su-35S was shot down a week ago near Kharkov.
                  1. Maxim G
                    Maxim G April 11 2022 13: 36
                    0
                    And what are the main reasons for such high (judging by your posts) losses?
                    If you can name them of course.
                    1. Osipov9391
                      Osipov9391 April 11 2022 13: 39
                      +2
                      "Large" aircraft like those in the photo above come under fire from sleeping "Buks" activated by external target designation.
                      Helicopters and attack aircraft come under fire from a large number of Western MANPADS.
                      In principle, all this is in open sources, who needs to be able to find it himself.
                      1. Maxim G
                        Maxim G April 11 2022 13: 43
                        0
                        I read this, it turns out that Ukrainian air defense systems were not neutralized? The question is why? That's what interests.
                      2. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 April 11 2022 17: 54
                        +1
                        Because while the "Buk" is sitting in the forest with the radar turned off, it does not declare itself in any way. It is extremely difficult to find.
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 10 2022 15: 00
      +1
      Quote: Call Sign Almaz
      Call Sign Almaz (22)

      Go to the Kyiv military enlistment office.
      1. Clear
        Clear April 10 2022 16: 47
        +2
        Quote: Piramidon
        Quote: Call Sign Almaz
        Call Sign Almaz (22)

        Go to the Kyiv military enlistment office.

        Figushki, his grandmother is in Voronezh. lol
        Now he’s going to blow everyone up with cheap drones and ... eat borscht.
    5. Xenofont
      Xenofont April 10 2022 15: 19
      0
      From zhezh, dreary woodpecker! The couch graphomaniac, well, he explained everything and amazed everyone with his intellect!
    6. alekc73
      alekc73 April 10 2022 16: 43
      +4
      I support. Our helicopters and pilots take a terrible risk. In Ukraine, there is a sea of ​​MANPADS. Exit shock drones. Massively. Otherwise, it will be bad. Downed turntables and lost pilots.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U April 11 2022 04: 10
        -2
        Quote: alekc73
        The British supply the latest better stingers. Rocket speed 1 km / s, laser beam guidance (heat traps do not work.)

        You only understood a couple of numbers about "Starstreak".
      2. Konnick
        Konnick April 11 2022 13: 30
        +2
        They will drive aircraft to high altitudes, and helicopters will not be able to work. The output is attack drones. Massively. Otherwise, it will be bad. Downed turntables and lost pilots.

        When I was driving around Cyprus in a rental car, I noticed a large number of speed cameras. I asked a local - Isn't such a pleasure a little expensive? He replied - No, one out of ten is real, the rest are dummies. But the real one is periodically rearranged ...
        Not necessarily a lot of real UAVs, you can also let cheap dummies. Our generals learned nothing from the experience of the Azerbaijani army in Karabakh, where the air defense was opened and destroyed with the help of unmanned maize. Some statements ... almost ... almost ...
  7. gorenina91
    gorenina91 April 10 2022 15: 02
    -14
    - To be honest, the second video (where "the armored personnel carrier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is being destroyed") is a real montage from a "shooting toy"! - Why do you post such "vidos" ???
    1. lucul
      lucul April 10 2022 15: 08
      -5
      To be honest, the second video (where "the armored personnel carrier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is being destroyed") is a real montage from a "shooting toy"! - Why do you post such "vidos" ???

      Ahah-ahah)))
      Open any shooting toy and try to reproduce there the same natural explosion as in that video))))
      1. gorenina91
        gorenina91 April 10 2022 15: 19
        -9
        Ahah-ahah)))

        - The shooter is "mounted" from the "explosion video" - a rather primitive montage.
        1. lucul
          lucul April 10 2022 15: 23
          0
          The shooter is "edited" from the "explosion video" - a rather primitive montage.

          Shooting game name , sister name ! )))
          With a rendered map of Mariupol (Azovstal) ))))
          1. gorenina91
            gorenina91 April 10 2022 15: 39
            -8
            Name of the shooting game

            - Well, probably - another interpretation of Lucullus' feasts in the 21st century!
            1. Vitaly161
              Vitaly161 April 10 2022 16: 03
              +2
              Quote: gorenina91
              Name of the shooting game

              - Well, probably - another interpretation of Lucullus' feasts in the 21st century!

              but the fact that in the video the territory of the real Azovstal does not bother you?
              1. gorenina91
                gorenina91 April 11 2022 06: 15
                -5
                but the fact that in the video the territory of the real Azovstal does not bother you?

                - What are you??? - This is a real "reference to the area", or what ??? - Who told you that - did you come up with it yourself ???
                - Damn, during the "explosion of the armored personnel carrier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" - not a single tree and not a single bush (which are quite close) - did not even stir! - And what a clear and precise picture of all this fragment! - And the shadow is cast everywhere "in different ways" (and in some places it is not cast at all)! - When the picture is rotated "clockwise" - then the shadow along with the picture also rotates! - Okay - I'm not going to continue!
                1. Vitaly161
                  Vitaly161 April 11 2022 11: 12
                  -2
                  Quote: gorenina91
                  but the fact that in the video the territory of the real Azovstal does not bother you?

                  - What are you??? - This is a real "reference to the area", or what ??? - Who told you that - did you come up with it yourself ???
                  - Damn, during the "explosion of the armored personnel carrier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" - not a single tree and not a single bush (which are quite close) - did not even stir! - And what a clear and precise picture of all this fragment! - And the shadow is cast everywhere "in different ways" (and in some places it is not cast at all)! - When the picture is rotated "clockwise" - then the shadow along with the picture also rotates! - Okay - I'm not going to continue!

                  yes, everything is always wrong with you) you are ukrobots, and there is no Crimean bridge, and we have tanks drawn) but you have no brains to understand that from Kab 20 you couldn’t move anything in the area of ​​​​impact, they didn’t throw FAB 500 there
                  1. gorenina91
                    gorenina91 April 11 2022 11: 34
                    -3
                    you are ukrobots, and there is no Crimean bridge, and we have tanks drawn) but you have no brains to understand that from Kab 20 you didn’t have enough to move in the area of ​​impact, they didn’t throw FAB 500 there

                    - Yes, you yourself - "ukrorobot" - bast shoes, not a specialist!
                    - Figase - use the expensive "KAB 20" to destroy some "old scrap metal" - you yourself have really "painted brains"! - It would be better - indeed - they would throw the FAB 500 there! - It can be seen - that you are a "great specialist in this matter"!
                    1. Vitaly161
                      Vitaly161 April 11 2022 11: 42
                      -1
                      Quote: gorenina91
                      you are ukrobots, and there is no Crimean bridge, and we have tanks drawn) but you have no brains to understand that from Kab 20 you didn’t have enough to move in the area of ​​impact, they didn’t throw FAB 500 there

                      - Yes, you yourself - "ukrorobot" - bast shoes, not a specialist!
                      - Figase - use the expensive "KAB 20" to destroy some "old scrap metal" - you yourself have really "painted brains"! - It would be better - indeed - they would throw the FAB 500 there! - It can be seen - that you are a "great specialist in this matter"!

                      then give you a mullen UAV to work out each bush, and now you have an expensive KAB 20) UAVs with 500 kami do not work, and if you compare the price, even the old armored personnel carrier 80 will be several times more expensive than KAB 20
                    2. Vitaly161
                      Vitaly161 April 11 2022 11: 44
                      -1
                      Quote: gorenina91
                      you are ukrobots, and there is no Crimean bridge, and we have tanks drawn) but you have no brains to understand that from Kab 20 you didn’t have enough to move in the area of ​​impact, they didn’t throw FAB 500 there

                      - Yes, you yourself - "ukrorobot" - bast shoes, not a specialist!
                      - Figase - use the expensive "KAB 20" to destroy some "old scrap metal" - you yourself have really "painted brains"! - It would be better - indeed - they would throw the FAB 500 there! - It can be seen - that you are a "great specialist in this matter"!

                      by the way, judging by your comments, you are a real forelock troll, so go through the forest, discuss the successes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
                      1. gorenina91
                        gorenina91 April 11 2022 12: 29
                        -4
                        forearm troll

                        - Pfff!
        2. VORON538
          VORON538 April 10 2022 15: 38
          0
          Not so long ago, dill propaganda said that the bridge to the Crimea is a fake. How many people drove over this bridge? Who are you drowning for, the last letter of the Russian alphabet?
          1. Clear
            Clear April 10 2022 16: 52
            +1
            Quote: VORON538
            Who are you drowning for, the last letter of the Russian alphabet?

            So they have one post - 20 kopecks, and five posts are already a ruble lol
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  8. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall April 10 2022 15: 59
    +1
    The Ka 52 combat helicopter shows very good performance. Russian drones too. I really like the Sukhoi S-70 Okhotnik, but I haven't seen it in action yet.
  9. Sergey Melnik
    Sergey Melnik April 10 2022 17: 04
    +1
    Quote: NIKNN
    from a short distance, at low altitudesto exclude defeat by portable anti-aircraft systems.
    Error or incompetence of the author? The described conditions are far from the desired exclusion of the defeat of MANPADS.

    Error, the distances are maximum, in some places you even have to shoot so that the NURS go along a hinged trajectory
    1. Okakakiev
      Okakakiev April 10 2022 20: 18
      +1
      Well, usually nurses fire at 2 km or closer. In this sense, the maximum With the exception of shooting at an area of ​​​​5-6 km
  10. Bradley
    Bradley April 11 2022 01: 46
    0
    The quality is very poor, you can't see anything. Unclear.

    The other day, Ukrainians posted a video of the defeat of the KA-52 from the Stugna-P ATGM.
    Everything is perfectly visible there, although they shot a picture on a smartphone from the Stugna-P control panel

    It is not surprising. We follow them, and they follow us.
    It is only strange that the MO did not say a word about this.
  11. Normann
    Normann April 11 2022 03: 11
    0
    Quote: 2 level advisor
    thank you for expressing the well-known idea hi

    I try for you.)
  12. Konnick
    Konnick April 11 2022 13: 53
    0
    Quote from Andy_nsk
    Can't you hit a UAV with a Stinger? ))))

    Most UAVs (Inohodets and the like) have piston aircraft engines and a propeller, and Stingers have an IR homing head, they are aimed at the engine exhaust, so there is practically no chance of hitting the Inohodets with a stinger. Alligators have gas turbine engines, high-temperature exhaust, Stingers will be aimed at it, it’s not for nothing that helicopters drop heat traps.


    Moreover, it is difficult to visually capture a small-sized device, the most modern MANPADS are guided by a laser beam, and not by an infrared and ultraviolet homing system.
  13. Konnick
    Konnick April 11 2022 14: 11
    +1
    Two turntables ... Total. The operation "Bagration" involved 5 aircraft. Half of the entire combat aviation of our army was concentrated there. The Wehrmacht had half a million soldiers and officers there, only combat units. Those. for one of our aircraft per 700 Nazis. Any movement was paralyzed there, both combat units and the rear. There are about 100 people in the APU grouping in Donbas. Our planes and helicopters should be 50. Then we can talk about real assistance to the ground forces. I don’t know if there are backup crews for combat aircraft and helicopters to increase the number of sorties ...
  14. wlkw
    wlkw April 13 2022 11: 34
    0
    Listen, I don’t understand, if you watch the video at 34 seconds, there is a wing with weapons terribly swaying, how does it shoot at all ????
    https://vk.com/video-133441491_456255407