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Weapons to the Caucasus come from abroad and from local military units - Prosecutor General's Office

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Weapons to the Caucasus come from abroad and from local military units - Prosecutor General's Office

The Office of the Prosecutor General’s Office in the North Caucasus Federal District states that weapon illegal circulation comes not only from abroad, but in some cases from local military units, reports RIA News.

"There are some facts when weapons and ammunition are being smuggled in from units of the Ministry of Defense, I mean military units and so on," said Alexey Vasilkov, deputy head of department.

He singled out two main channels for the supply of weapons and drugs to the district. “Here I see two main channels of their receipt, then through those points that are not covered by customs control, the second channel, through those official points when officials didn’t inspect something, and through illegal channels,” Vasilkov said.
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  1. mongoose
    mongoose 1 October 2012 11: 21
    +5
    hang freaks! significant! on the parade ground!
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov 1 October 2012 12: 04
      +9
      Weapons in the Caucasus come from abroad and from local military units - Prosecutor General

      I didn’t even read further!
      The captain flew in evidence .... This is from the beginning of the nineties ...
      1. bachast
        bachast 1 October 2012 12: 37
        +3
        I agree, though he said individual facts, I would add single ones. But the main thread is a more interesting question ....
        1. orfo
          orfo 1 October 2012 16: 08
          0
          an escort from Turkey ...
    2. orfo
      orfo 1 October 2012 16: 07
      +1
      as they sold to mahnaty people and they sell that their "Russians" that others, so that later they would shoot at their own, stupidity is not treated.
      Give a military tribunal, maybe there is a loophole to ignore the moratorium on the SK, treason all the same.

      Reminded x / f Checkpoint ...
      1. igor67
        igor67 1 October 2012 16: 20
        +3
        orfo,
        Why are films, reality worse, my friend went through Afghanistan and both Chechen prarapors tried everything from him to parachutes, I don’t know why the Chechens parachutes. And at the expense of the secrecy of the military here in Israel no one knows, not only by sight, but by the name of the pilots no matter what heroes they are, only when you leave the service as arches, you can learn about the exploits, you have all the officers on TV and even the wives of all the mothers surely show, even the place of residence and neighbors, how to fight in such conditions if you know that your family is not protected
        1. Northerner
          Northerner 1 October 2012 17: 04
          +2
          orfo Just in the aforementioned Israel, the fathers of the doctrine of information security sit the fathers, and with us they come to this only through a rake! It is a pity that due to corruption and negligence in Russia, even with the maximum regime of confidentiality of information, any villain, through a corrupt official or an employee of the competent authorities, will receive any information not only on you, but on all your relatives in the third generation! In addition, information that is freely available (for example, on a personal computer and on the Internet, social networks) is also at risk of being used by cybercriminals!
          People don’t even think about the confidentiality of information and as a result villains use it! In this regard, we have something to learn from Israel, for example, in the plan of action of its government in relation to its citizens. ” Israel, in turn, has something to learn from the achievements of our GRU and SVR schools! Our specialists have developed such a doctrine that, with proper implementation, they would have covered a whole layer of problems with the country's security for a long time !! But unfortunately in Israel, this doctrine is used, and with us the GRU is constantly shaking and shaking!
        2. bachast
          bachast 1 October 2012 22: 56
          0
          Prapora tried everything down to parachutes

          Did you sell parachutes? In Chechnya? Yeah .... the second funny comment in the topic, about the "true stories" of friends
  2. itr
    itr 1 October 2012 11: 21
    +5
    Yes, here it’s clear where they come from. Rats have always been
    The only thing that kills me more is their methods of writing off weapons. Fires and explosions in warehouses, and innocent people die there.
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 1 October 2012 11: 26
      +5
      itr (2)
      Yes, here it’s clear where they come from. Rats have always been


      To whom is war, and to whom is mother dear?
    2. DIMS
      DIMS 1 October 2012 11: 29
      -1
      Dear, what do you mean by the word "local"?
  3. volcano
    volcano 1 October 2012 11: 27
    0
    Well, they revealed ...... well done (here you don’t need a lot of mind .... there are no other options) .... and then what ??? how will we fight .... at least in plans ???
  4. afire
    afire 1 October 2012 11: 29
    +2
    execute like traitors
    1. SSR
      SSR 1 October 2012 11: 53
      +2
      Quote: afire
      execute like traitors

      Well, at the expense of execution, we have a moratorium .. but IMHA,
      in addition to selling weapons from the warehouse, they expose our citizens to bullets, our soldiers. then they are rats / traitors and they must be judged precisely as traitors.
      otherwise we are judged them as illegal arms trade
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 1 October 2012 12: 09
        +3
        It is necessary to shoot such bastards at the moment of arrest "for attempting to escape and for providing armed resistance." This is true, and there is no distraction of forces and funds for inquiry, maintenance at the expense of taxpayers. Those going to the arrest should understand that in all cases when they are shown armed resistance or attack, they shoot from the weapon that this Shoot sold out before this pallet has time to raise his hands.
  5. Manager
    Manager 1 October 2012 11: 57
    +7
    One would have thought that, prior to the results of the investigation, it was assumed that weapons in the Caucasus itself are being produced ..... For a long time everyone knows where and what .... It’s just that someone warmed up someone’s paw in time ...
    More than sure, they could have blocked the leak of weapons from at least their native parts for a long time. From abroad, it’s understandable to climb to understand. But at least it was possible to restore order at home.
  6. JonnyT
    JonnyT 1 October 2012 12: 05
    -1
    As you know, demand creates supply !!! In the Caucasus, the cult of weapons. Every self-respecting man should have a weapon to "protect" himself. Plus the automaton can be used instead of 1000 words. In my opinion, we need to work with the population and strengthen government structures! If the state is strong and respected, I don't need a machine gun to defend myself! And exterminate bandits and rats!
    1. Manager
      Manager 1 October 2012 12: 15
      +4
      Quote: JonnyT
      Plus, the machine can be used instead of 1000 words. In my opinion, it is necessary to work with the population and strengthen state structures! If the state is strong and respected, I don’t need an automatic machine to protect myself! And to destroy bandits and rats!



      Nah! In the Caucasus, the mentality is different. There, at least for 10 hours you will give lectures to the people for every 1 years and deliver 1 police officer for each square meter, the people both had weapons and horseradish would refuse them. It’s the same as in Russian families there is at least XNUMX carpet. They also have a machine gun.
      1. badhoy
        badhoy 1 October 2012 12: 22
        0
        About the carpet - that's the point))) +++
  7. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 1 October 2012 12: 16
    +3
    not surprised ..... yes, it is necessary to shoot those dogs who sells warehouses
    1. NICK
      NICK 1 October 2012 15: 58
      -1
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      to shoot those dogs who sells warehouses

      And also those who buy (preferably with families), otherwise they do not understand.
  8. BARKAS
    BARKAS 1 October 2012 12: 38
    +3
    I remember in the 90s if a soldier or officer found themselves outside the unit in the company of the Caucasians immediately received an offer to sell something firing, even they came to the checkpoint and asked to sell cartridges and were sincerely perplexed when they were refused, they weren’t afraid, I think now the situation has not changed much.
    1. Manager
      Manager 1 October 2012 12: 41
      +1
      Quote: BARKAS
      I think now the situation has not changed much.


      Yeah, the prices have changed soldier
  9. mamba
    mamba 1 October 2012 12: 44
    +5
    Quote: sasha 19871987
    yes, it’s necessary to shoot those dogs who sell the warehouses

    And also those who sell soldiers into slavery, who "leak" secret information to militants, who let bandits through checkpoints for loot ... But you never know episodes of rampant corruption in our army! But something is not visible and loud criminal cases are not heard. Apparently everyone is happy. And the military prosecutor's office and counterintelligence do not so much rest on their laurels as they do their own business. am
    1. SSR
      SSR 1 October 2012 13: 09
      +3
      Quote: mamba
      But something is not visible and not heard high-profile criminal cases

      In general, I think the military simply cannot stand "dirty linen" in public.
      At one time, the information that such and such shot himself in the office was very annoying. so-and-so in a plane crash., so-and-so survived in a traffic accident .. a dead body was found in the sea *** *** so-and-so ... so-and-so was shot dead in the stairwell
      and then you look .. they are all somehow participants in the first and some of the second Chechen company ....
      and from here thoughts arise ... or the "new" people who have become "people" cleanse their connections, or the security officials themselves cleanse their "House" from those who betrayed their own on the sly ...
      Let's remember how the paratrooper company Killed .. and how the militants used to say like: "let us pass it, they won't cover you"
      I think we can all remember how even the bandits knew the special forces' routes.
      these fainting in uniform must be crushed but you see the scale of corruption for so much that just quiet them anyway *********. here.
      IMHA.
      1. mamba
        mamba 1 October 2012 16: 11
        +3
        Quote: SSR
        and then you look .. they are all somehow participants in the first and some of the second Chechen company ....
        and from here thoughts arise ... or the "new" people who have become "people" cleanse their connections, or the security officials themselves cleanse their "House" from those who betrayed their own on the sly ...

        Unfortunately, another option is also possible: the Chechens are clearing out our fighters who have really distinguished themselves in both companies. And the information about these guys was sold to them by our own officials, military and civilians.
        1. SSR
          SSR 2 October 2012 10: 20
          0
          Quote: mamba
          Unfortunately, another option is also possible.

          sadly .. but just like that .... it painfully tightly rotted the tentacles launched .. so much firmly and deeply that we have any alignment possible.
          that's how we live))
  10. Manager
    Manager 1 October 2012 12: 47
    +1
    I had one acquaintance, it was not for me to judge him, but he told the following. He served in the Caucasus in early 2000, but he didn’t remember what rank. In general, his soldiers treated the weapons very nonchalantly. So at night he stole machine guns from such a mountain .And in the morning when they ran to him with frightened eyes, he sold them their own machines for a monthly salary, (I also don’t know how many, etc., but they say they received 30 thousand in the Caucasus at that time). He says that 40 people raised this way in a year. As the saying goes, both the wolves are fed and the sheep are intact. And the soldiers with the machine guns then did not part with re-education, so to speak. And he was with the money.
    I do not know exactly how true the story is. Just told what that friend told me about 3 years ago.
    So I mean what he sold to his. But there are nits that are sold to enemies, and the scheme is simple.
    1. GP
      GP 1 October 2012 13: 00
      +2
      Quote: Manager
      I had one acquaintance, it was not for me to judge him, but he told the following. He served in the Caucasus in early 2000, but he didn’t remember what rank. In general, his soldiers treated the weapons very nonchalantly. So at night he stole machine guns from such a mountain .And in the morning when they ran to him with frightened eyes, he sold them their own machines for a monthly salary, (I also don’t know how many, etc., but they say they received 30 thousand in the Caucasus at that time). He says that 40 people raised this way in a year. As the saying goes, both the wolves are fed and the sheep are intact. And the soldiers with the machine guns then did not part with re-education, so to speak. And he was with the money.
      I do not know exactly how true the story is. Just told what that friend told me about 3 years ago.
      So I mean what he sold to his. But there are nits that are sold to enemies, and the scheme is simple.


      In a combat situation? Blithely? - trust the surrounding colleagues, do not wait for a trick. In this case, stealing a rotten occupation, whatever the reason, and demanding money even more so. And if this is not a bike, then your friend acted gently to say not good. And when you consider that nothing happened to him during the service, I am inclined to conclude that a friend rode your ears.
    2. bachast
      bachast 1 October 2012 13: 00
      +1
      I heard about such cases, but in order to extort my salary, you won’t get too bad there at that time either. All with weapons, on the nerves, and the officer will think ten times before doing something like that. Although there were enough personnel. By the way 30 thousands were not received not in 2000 not on 01-02-03-04-05 ...
      1. Manager
        Manager 1 October 2012 13: 14
        +1
        Quote: bachast
        And if this is not a bike, then your friend acted gently say not good


        Not a friend but a friend at 1 job was. I have not seen for a long time. And I don’t know the bike itself or the truth. The situation there was not like a battle. So FIG knows him.
        1. bachast
          bachast 1 October 2012 13: 18
          0
          It was not me who wrote this, but in principle I agree with the commentary. Regarding the "not combat" situation in 2000, you are in vain .. Although, judging by the story of your friend, he did not go further than Khankala
          sometimes you really had to teach kosyachnik if you fall asleep in secret or in a non-profit partnership, but no money ...
          1. DIMS
            DIMS 1 October 2012 16: 48
            0
            I have a plodder of a kosyachnik decided to teach a lesson. He slept at the post. A bag on his head, hands and feet tied and dragged on his shoulder for about 15 minutes - he had a lot of dope, both in the muscles and in the head. So he pissed him with fear.
            And there was another case, still at the training ground before entering. The special forces decided to punish the sleeping sentry from the artillery regiment. He grabbed by the machine gun, yanked, and that one had a weapon in accordance with the guard regulations. But the cartridge was in the chamber and removed from the fuse. The result is a few bullets from AKSU to the hips and amputation.

            Careful with this
      2. DIMS
        DIMS 1 October 2012 16: 11
        0
        Quote: bachast
        By the way, 30 thousand were not received not in 2000 not on 01-02-03-04-05 ...

        It is about "combat"
        1. bachast
          bachast 1 October 2012 16: 25
          0
          I sold for a monthly salary, (I also don’t know how much, etc., but it says they received 30 thousand in the Caucasus)

          It seems about the salary ... yes, in any case, even if you take it with combat, then he should have been closed for 30 days (which is from the realm of fantasy) then to thirty and that would not have worked in 2000)) and it was said that the situation was not there "combat"? so if they closed for five days, at best))
          1. DIMS
            DIMS 1 October 2012 16: 39
            0
            In principle, yes, as far as I remember, they were not up to 30 with the combat ones. Yes, and did not give them into their arms, only a monthly demobilization, the rest through the military enlistment office or by bank transfer. If dates do not offer a rollback. On which they flew, the Nachfin Valanuli in St. Petersburg, the cashier with whom he muddied everything, in Rostov.

            So most likely this is a bike.
  11. Nechai
    Nechai 1 October 2012 12: 52
    +1
    Quote: sasha 19871987
    , it is necessary to shoot those dogs who sells warehouses

    So it "flows" from enterprises. Remember the tragedy of the Podolsk OMON? Having fulfilled ALL the sentences to the Military Medical Service, deserved in justice and truth, there will be such a staff shortage in the government and the State Duma, at enterprises, in the Ministry of Defense and military units, there will be arsenals, Mom, do not worry! And where to go ?! And all the articles of the article know that this is not the case, but sooner or later, but it will happen. Hence the mentality of the temporary worker. And the nests immediately after the cardon begin to twist, fools. They think that there they will be guaranteed escape from retaliation ...
  12. erased
    erased 1 October 2012 12: 52
    0
    Nothing changes. As the treasures were stolen, they continue. Who needs money, but the soldiers are killed. And where is the decision of the Government?
  13. Jeka
    Jeka 1 October 2012 12: 53
    +3
    A couple of news on the Caucasus:

    The Prosecutor General's Office acquitted a lawyer who promised to fill Moscow with blood
    http://top.rbc.ru/society/01/10/2012/672011.shtml

    Police have nothing to show to Dagestanis who fired at the Kremlin walls
    http://top.rbc.ru/incidents/01/10/2012/672014.shtml
    1. Manager
      Manager 1 October 2012 13: 17
      +2
      Quote: wih

      A couple of news on the Caucasus:

      The Prosecutor General's Office acquitted a lawyer who promised to fill Moscow with blood
      http://top.rbc.ru/society/01/10/2012/672011.shtml

      Police have nothing to show to Dagestanis who fired at the Kremlin walls
      http://top.rbc.ru/incidents/01/10/2012/672014.shtml



      Who would doubt .... Soon we ourselves will be asked both from Moscow and from other cities to leave with such political correspondence.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 1 October 2012 13: 25
        +1
        Quote: Manager
        Soon we ourselves will be asked to leave Moscow and other cities with such political correctness.

        Everything goes to this! It has long been said that Moscow is no longer a Russian city!
        1. wvivon
          wvivon 1 October 2012 14: 40
          0
          pravilnii paren i emu stidno za svoih
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 1 October 2012 13: 24
      +3
      Quote: wih
      Police have nothing to show to Dagestanis who fired at the Kremlin walls

      Yeah!!! Read. Survived. And this is nickname’s crown number, when they quietly go to the wedding and don’t let anyone in, it’s cool with them, several times he himself witnessed such disgrace! am
      1. Manager
        Manager 1 October 2012 13: 29
        +3
        Quote: nycsson
        Yeah!!! Read. Survived. And this is nickname’s crown number, when they quietly go to the wedding and don’t let anyone in, it’s cool with them, several times he himself witnessed such disgrace!


        Just for a second, guess what will happen to the Russian family who dared to do this in Makhachkala?
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 1 October 2012 14: 01
          +1
          Quote: Manager
          Just for a second, guess what will happen to the Russian family who dared to do this in Makhachkala?

          That's for sure! Yes, we ourselves are to blame for everything! We look at this disgrace and are silent, instead of stopping such a wedding card and writing ..... be all in a row! In honor of the wedding! am
          1. Geton
            Geton 1 October 2012 17: 10
            +1
            Quote: nycsson
            Yes, we ourselves are to blame for everything! We look at this disgrace and are silent, instead of stopping such a wedding card and writing ..... be all in a row! In honor of the wedding!
          2. Northerner
            Northerner 1 October 2012 17: 41
            +4
            nycsson Well, Anika Warrior! Do you want me to say how things would become? First, they hang Lul these 15 thugs on you, and then when you leave, God forbid. The hospital will also pay kebab to them! Since each of them has a relative in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the Prosecutor’s Office serves or just hangs around! So to speak, the clerk of the Government and the remnants of the oiling of the Caucasian lawlessness! We will be united in the general consciousness and will respect us all, but for now, some for the dog, others against homosexuals, others for the Tsar, fourth for Stalin nostalgic, etc., these mountain children, God's dandelions breed like cockroaches and honor their sacred family and relatives !!
  14. iulai
    iulai 1 October 2012 12: 55
    0
    Messrs. ensigns brought many troubles. how many guys are lying in the ground because of them.
  15. iulai
    iulai 1 October 2012 12: 58
    +1
    for some reason, all new weapons appear earlier in the militants than in the Armed Forces. should directors be checked?
    1. DIMS
      DIMS 1 October 2012 16: 15
      0
      The first RGO-RGN, we got trophy, tandems and fragmentation to RPG-too.
      But here we are talking more about the current situation.
  16. baltika-18
    baltika-18 1 October 2012 13: 20
    +1
    As if he had made a great discovery. It is clear that the borders are full of holes, where there are none at all, bring whatever you want, even weapons, even drugs. And they’re being taken.
  17. igor67
    igor67 1 October 2012 13: 23
    +3
    Remember General Romantsev who promised to tell how the militants turned out to have new weapons from the factories and through which bank the payments went and what happened to him. Then Menatep Syskovets was called and how did it end?
  18. Apollo
    Apollo 1 October 2012 13: 45
    +3
    Absolutely no information. I'm interested in the following.

    1: Have criminal cases been opened
    2. Delivery channels from abroad
    3. The production weapons of which countries were imported to the North Caucasus
    4. Which of the officials were prosecuted
    5. Weapons leak was intentional or negligent
    6.Name of the delivered weapon
    7. What measures were provided for exclusion in the future. arms trafficking.

    this is only part of the questions. I understand if the info is classified as security then it makes no sense to discuss it! IMHO.
  19. Radarik606
    Radarik606 1 October 2012 17: 50
    +2
    And how did they guess that?)