Libya: not to leave witnesses alive

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26 September it became known that the Libyan “revolutionary” by the name of Omran Juma Shaan, who, together with his three friends, also fighters for freedom and democracy, were tortured and tortured for a long time in Bani Walid, died in a French hospital.

The named Libyan city both was and remained an outpost of forces loyal to Colonel Gaddafi. The people of Bani Walid are loyal to the dead Muammar. Should not 20-year-old Shaaban appear near Bani Walid. I would have sat in Misrata and would not stick my nose out. Or you would go to France - Libyan "democrats" are traditionally given compliments there. But no: it was necessary to wander around Libya, to be photographed with Gaddafi’s golden gun. So I jumped. Not even managed to get eight hundred thousand dollars, promised for the capture of Muammar. However, no one was going to pay them.

Libya: not to leave witnesses alive


In early September, the interim ruler of Libya, Mohammed Yousef al-Magref, “secured” the liberation of Shaaban and his two friends. As for the third liberator-liberator, little is known about him: whether he is still held hostage, or he hasn’t endured the humane treatment of the jailers.

Shaaban, who showed signs of life, was taken to Paris, where he ordered to live long last Tuesday. Rescuers immediately spread their hands: this, they say, can not cure. Is this why the interim head of Libya got so easy a “revolutionary”? They knew in Bani Walid that they would not last this half-dead for long. And advanced capitalist doctors will not save.

Young Shaaban was not the first in a chain of corpses into which Gadhafi’s killers, one after another, began to turn. Earlier Shaabana under mysterious circumstances died some more participants of the capture and murder of Gaddafi in Sirte.

In Misrata, they grieved for Shaaban: 10.000 people came to the city stadium.

You can file this news so: "In the Libyan city of Misrata, we said goodbye today to one of the participants in the operation to capture Muammar Gaddafi" (Echo of Moscow).

And it is possible commercials:

The "reward" has found a "hero." <…>

Omran Jumaa Shaaban was taken to France for treatment, where he died last Tuesday in a Paris hospital. You can imagine what he experienced during the captivity. How many thousands of times did he curse his interest in the drainage pipe, where Gaddafi was trying to hide? How many times did Omran Jumaa Shaaban change his sexual orientation? What delights experienced the hard way? The East, as is known, is a delicate matter.

It should be noted that Omran Juma Shaaban is not the first participant in the seizure, humiliation and subsequent brutal murder of Muammar Gaddafi, who got what he deserved. This avengers are regularly destroyed by the public ”(Segodnya.ru).

The Avengers for Gaddafi are hypothesis Nikolai Starikov: “For the death of Muammar Gaddafi revenge. These avengers are representatives of the tribe of Qadhaf, to which the brutally murdered leader of Libya belonged. They killed the American ambassador. And they got another killer Gaddafi. "

I do not know. Too easy. Rather, the power in Libya, albeit far from strong, is almond with people from Bani Walid, not only because it is weak and temporary, but also because it is interested in the death of the witnesses to the killing of Gaddafi. Maybe she doesn’t want this shameful murder involving torture and humiliation to go into history with all the details, maybe it doesn’t want those in the world who owed 800 thousand US dollars to live in the world.

So what kind of a revolution is it, if Bani Walid decides for Tripoli, and you have to negotiate the extradition of prisoners with the city of caddaphists? And it turns out to agree only because the prisoners are no longer suitable even for hospital patients? How do you, Mister Americans, such a democracy? You, apparently, do not conduct negotiations with terrorists?

The weakness and indecision of the Libyan government confirms the following fact.

September 22 power of Libya made a decision on the dissolution of armed groups in the country. Under the elimination fall all groups whose activities are not regulated by the Government of Libya. In Benghazi, a special headquarters has been established, which will include representatives of the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and legal armed groups subordinate to the Ministry of Defense. He will coordinate the disbanding of the armed units. So - mercilessly and unconditionally.

But what is this solution built on?

The fact is that the leadership of the radical group Ansar al-Sharia has already decided to dissolve itself. The leaders of another Libyan “militia” organization, Abu Slim, also decided to dissolve themselves.

Militants decided to leave the political arena (temporarily, I suppose) a day after the residents of Benghazi, unhappy with the excessive influence of members of armed groups, attacked the Islamist base from Ansar al-Sharia. Bottom line: 11 dead and 70 injured.

The government, having heard of self-dissolution, decided to earn a political point: to announce the cessation of the activities of armed groups. Dissolution of self-dissolved - truly Solomonic solution.

As for the city of Bani Walid, there, besides a hundred thousand inhabitants, there are many, many weapons, including guns and grenade launchers. Ammo, too, of course, is. And also a lot. Whole warehouses. It is possible that it was the local rocket launchers that killed the ambassador of the USA, Christopher Stevens. The population of the city does not recognize the new government: they do not care that in Libya there is a new anthem, and in schools children continue to study according to the old programs. There is still Jamahiriya, there is the spirit of Gaddafi.

The power in Libya is wandering also because of the collapsing economy, because of which the entire state can collapse. (The Americans only need this). Cyrenaica in Libya claims independence - because of the oil. What the Gaddafi was able to reconcile is lost by the current temporary workers.

According to Yevgeny Satanovsky, the Libyan authorities are completely incapacitated and "do not have a share of the political charisma and organizational abilities that Muammar Gaddafi had."

However, they, apparently, have enough of these organizational abilities for some work.

The version of the destruction of the authorities witnesses the murder of Colonel Gaddafi puts forward Eugene Super, columnist "But": “... If the case goes like this, then not a single witness to the seizure of the colonel will remain alive (if there are any). All this suggests that under the cover of the legend of the revenge of the “Gaddafists”, the witnesses of the incident are methodically removed. ”

So, the witnesses are destroyed, or everyone has already been killed, while the Libyan Provisional Government, meanwhile, declares its “loyalty” to the United States.

Mohammed Yousef Al-Magref at the UN General Assembly in New York apologized personally in front of the US Secretary of State for the attack of militants on the American consulate in Benghazi. Mr. Al-Magref said: “What happened on September 11 in Benghazi does not in any way reflect the wishes and hopes of the Libyan people, or their attitude towards the people of the United States. We are ready to cooperate with the US government to bring to justice those responsible for the death of American citizens in Libya. "

Hillary Clinton, in response, called the Libyan government a loyal partner of the United States and said thanks to al-Magref for assistance in investigating the tragedy.

That's how pathetic was broadcasting from the rostrum of the General Assembly, the interim ruler of Libya: “I stand before you today, before the whole world, to ask for forgiveness for the damage that the despot caused, for the crimes he committed against so many innocent people, for the torture and terrorist attacks to which he many countries. "

One word - "faithful partner." Even almost a friend, comrade and brother.

And the "Arab Spring" in his ardent speech, he approved the.

However, the east indeed is a delicate matter. Al-Magref further behaved strangely, not at all as a “faithful partner.” 29 September it became known: the security authorities of Libya refused to allow the US to allow FBI investigators into the country (recall, brave special agents were afraid to fly to Benghazi, but agreed to conduct an investigation remotely from Tripoli).

Libyan government заявилоthat no foreign investigators will work on the territory of the country, and the government will conduct an investigation on its own.

Forces, he, of course, does not hold.

It is important to know some details. Mohammed al-Magref said that among the participants in the attack on the consulate general were foreigners who came from various places, for example, from Mali and Algeria. The investigation has already concluded that the scandalous film “The Innocence of Muslims” is a false reason, and the attack on the consulate was planned in advance - just “by foreigners who had infiltrated Libya several months ago.”

These incomprehensible “foreigners” suggest that the Libyans are going to announce the non-involvement of the honest Libyan people in the murder of Americans. No, the authorities have not conceived such an outcome of the case, because they secretly sympathize with armed Gaddafists, but because they fear that, like in the case of arrest, Libyans would not break out new pogroms. The power is weak, and Libya is falling apart. There are a lot of weapons in it, left over from Gaddafi. And it periodically shoots - then bullets, then grenades. So the government itself does not feel safe. While the Magref confesses to the White House of love and friendship, but being polite with the inhabitants of the city of Bani Walid and allows bullets to the ambassadors of America and poison them with smoke, he, Magref, will remain alive and healthy on the throne.

By the way, at the UN General Assembly, the only person from Africa found the courage to publicly speak out against the "loyal partner" of the USA, Mr. Al-Magref. It was, of course, one of the few dictators who survived on the planet - 87-year-old Robert Mugabe, ruler of Zimbabwe. This worthy man saidthat the difference between the killings of Gaddafi and Ambassador Stevens is not.

A week ago it became known that a few days after the assassination of Ambassador Stevens, CNN reporters found in Benghazi diary of an American diplomat. On seven pages, the ambassador wrote that extremist movements were gaining strength in Libya and it was becoming unsafe to be here.

It is not safe to be an American at all. Though in Libya, even in Egypt, even in Pakistan, even in Tunisia or Sudan. Even in Australia, they are now protesting against the Americans. Nobody loves them.

Once in Afghanistan, in Soviet times, the CIA was involved in organizing and financing the Al Qaeda prototype. Bin Laden has managed to pretend to be a friend of America. Now Washington is sponsoring and promoting the Arab Spring, as a result of which radical Islamists are coming to power. The White House wonders why Libya is not letting the EFBA members, and Egypt, where Islamist Mursi is ruling and where there were major anti-American protests, Barack Obama even decided not to consider him an ally anymore.

Do not you even meddle in Syria, eh?

No, all the same, Hillary Clinton insists: "Bashar Asad must leave." And al-Qaeda in Syria is right there.

“Leave” is like a spell. They walk with him around the world, destroying, burning, ruining, and they believe that flowers bloom behind.
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  1. +19
    1 October 2012 08: 18
    Nothing new, the east is a delicate matter, Gaddafi’s supporters will not become smaller, rather, on the contrary, there will be more of them every day. Residents of the territory that under Libya was Libya probably already with tears remember, and that was under the tyrant, and what happened now.
    Dermocracy is a terrible force, especially when it is interpreted by the right-wingers from the State Department. Maybe other nations will serve as a lesson on how to obey the Phishington provocateurs.
    1. +12
      1 October 2012 08: 47
      Greetings to all, for Sergey.
      I read an article last year, it contained an interview with a former "revolutionary oppositionist" who opposed Saddam Hussein, he was very sorry for what they had done ("revolutionaries"), the economy collapsed, no medicine or education, every day there were shooting, explosions and murder. And under Saddam, it was calm, the best medicine in the entire Middle East was in Iraq.
      About the same in Libya. Traitors ruined the country, a flourishing country !!!
      1. +1
        1 October 2012 23: 11
        Bekzat, I agree with you. And Libya is not the first time the West is plunging into chaos, it’s understandable why. Here is another evidence from a rather unexpected source:

        "From now on, Tripoli will belong to Italy. It is not superfluous to cast a glance at this typical colonial war of a" civilized "state of the XNUMXth century. What caused the war? The greed of Italian financial aces and capitalists who need a new market, need the successes of Italian imperialism. What was this war? Improved, civilized human slaughter, the beating of the Arabs with the "latest" weapons.

        IN AND. Lenin, Pravda No. 129, September 28, 1912

        Nothing has actually changed, just Pharisee mantras about democracy have been added.
  2. mar.tira
    +5
    1 October 2012 08: 21
    Clintonsha must send a film with the torture of this Judah. ​​And look at her reaction with her exclamation WOW !!!!!
    1. +1
      1 October 2012 16: 30
      With a postscript - "Clinton, it will be the same with you." And the exclamation WOW will turn into a heartbreaking OORRRR.
  3. +11
    1 October 2012 08: 48
    In Libya, there really is no power, only its appearance and the overthrow of those who are in power today is a matter of time. You have to answer for everything in life, and even more so for the betrayal of your own people. Time will come and Clinton herself will wallow in the street in her own bowel movements, torn to pieces by the crowd.
    1. Che
      Che
      +1
      1 October 2012 09: 04
      Alexander Romanov,
      +++ He laughed heartily.
    2. 0
      3 October 2012 09: 13
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The time will come and Clinton herself will wallow in the street in her own bowel movements torn to pieces by the crowd.

      It would be good, if it were so, but most likely this bitch will suffer in hell, And in America no one will ever touch her!
  4. Yarbay
    +7
    1 October 2012 08: 53
    The thing is that in Libya this is a temporary authority and everyone understands this !!
    Sooner or later, centralized power will appear or the country will be divided!
    The current situation has been created and controlled by the West !!
    In the interests of the West is the state of Libya!
    1. +1
      1 October 2012 16: 30
      Quote: Yarbay
      Sooner or later, centralized power will appear or the country will be divided!

      Yeah.
      Remember: Was such a country Ethiopia ?!
      recourse
      1. Yarbay
        0
        1 October 2012 18: 57
        Quote: Cynic
        Yeah.
        Remember: Was such a country Ethiopia ?!

        or Somalia?)))))))
        1. 0
          1 October 2012 20: 05
          Quote: Yarbay
          or Somalia?)))))))

          Yes no ethiopia

          now while Libya

          Somalia is already a clinic, complete.
  5. +10
    1 October 2012 08: 55
    There is another info about the killing of Gaddafi

    Media: Gaddafi was shot dead by order of Sarkozy

    TRIPOLI, 30 September. Former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was killed by a French agent, most likely with the knowledge of then-President of France Nicolas Sarkozy. This was reported by representatives of the Libyan authorities.
    According to this information, on 20 on October 2011, a foreign agent mixed with revolutionary brigades and shot Gaddafi in the head.
    "From the moment NATO intervened in the revolutionary events in Libya, and the attack was strongly supported by the government of Nicolas Sarkozy, Gaddafi openly threatened to reveal details of his relationship with the then French president, including the millions of dollars he gave to support Sarkozy's election campaign. in 2007. Sarkozy had every reason to silence the colonel as soon as possible, "- the Italian Carrera de la Sera is quoted by Vesti.
    We will remind, earlier the French Internet edition Mediapart published another material about the connection of the former French President Nicolas Sarkozy with the regime of the Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi on April 28. The publication released a document dated 2006, which says that the head of Libyan intelligence, Moussa Koussa, is authorizing the transfer of 50 million euros through intermediaries for Sarkozy's election campaign. The incumbent president of France has filed lawsuits against the director of the portal, Edvy Plenel, as well as two of his journalists - Fabrice Arfi and Karl Laskey. According to the French leader, the Mediapart article is a "blatant lie". The Paris Prosecutor's Office intends to establish whether the Internet publication Mediapart has used "forged documents" and "published information that does not correspond to reality."
    Earlier, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko said that ex-French President Nicolas Sarkozy received $ 100 million from Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi for his 2007 election campaign. "He took $ 100 million from Gaddafi. Muammar Gaddafi told me about this personally when he came to Minsk," Lukashenko said in response to questions from Belarusian parliamentarians.
    Recall that in mid-February last year, mass demonstrations began in Libya against Muammar Gaddafi, who ruled the country for more than 40 years. For six months of armed confrontation with government forces and the opposition managed to establish control over almost the entire territory of Libya. In February, the opposition formed the Transitional National Council (NTC), which declared the only legitimate authority in the country. Former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was killed on October 20 in his hometown of Sirte.
    Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2012/09/30/1040463.html
    1. Che
      Che
      +1
      1 October 2012 09: 06
      Thank Apollo for the info. Vague rumors have been circulating for a long time, and now they have come out. The awl in the bag does not hide.
      1. +2
        1 October 2012 09: 22
        Greetings Che hi ! Not at all. And we actually gathered here in order to discuss, exchange information and replenish each other's knowledge! IMHO
    2. Yarbay
      +3
      1 October 2012 09: 16
      Quote: Apollon
      Former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi was killed by a French agent, most likely with the knowledge of then French President Nicolas Sarkozy

      I even suggest that Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi and so many people could be a customer!
      It is likely that this is not only the French!
      Berlusconi's debts were steeper !!
      1. +3
        1 October 2012 09: 30
        Quote: Yarbay
        I even suggest that Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi and so many people could be a customer!
        It is likely that this is not only the French!
        Berlusconi's debts were steeper !!


        Many wanted the death of Gaddafi! This is an obvious fact, but I am inclined to believe that directly, the order to destroy Gaddafi was given by Nicolas Sarkozy.
  6. +2
    1 October 2012 09: 09
    What was able to resolve Gaddafi, current temporary workers lose sight of.

    Yes, not a hat for Senka. To kill a legitimate ruler doesn’t mean seizing power, moreover, the seizure was not carried out with the help of the people, but with the help of foreign support. Moreover, these foreigners have no idea about the mentality of the people of a plundered country. And what will happen there at least in half a year the most competent analyst.
    1. Che
      Che
      0
      2 October 2012 07: 22
      lewerlin53rus,
      The whole difference is that Gaddafi at one time came to power with popular support as the leader of the people. The enthusiasm of the people was unprecedented. And now this so-called revolution according to the scenario of the West could only create violence and robbery.
  7. predator
    +4
    1 October 2012 09: 11
    Well, the author rightly said: "The award found a hero," and how they mocked Gaddafi in front of cell phone cameras, then on October 20, it was already clear that they were to be calculated and started to shoot slowly.
  8. itr
    0
    1 October 2012 09: 56
    The article is somehow strange written
  9. +3
    1 October 2012 10: 56
    The sowing wind will reap the storm. The laws of the existence of human society have not been canceled. They are one for all, Americans, Arabs, Russians, Jews, etc. .. Why is no one trying to challenge the laws of physics or chemistry? Why does everyone understand that gravity cannot be fooled, and if you jump out of the window, the result will be one. And here, having collapsed a normal state, the Americans believe that people should be happy and grateful to them? Nonsense.
  10. +4
    1 October 2012 11: 52
    The "reward" found the "hero" Great. Not to say otherwise! Let all those who are stained with the blood of the colonel await retaliation! They ruined a beautiful country. Now they realized that they did, but late. Not one generation will now pay for it!
    1. 0
      1 October 2012 19: 00
      Who understood? Those who are now treading Syria?
  11. +3
    1 October 2012 12: 07
    One thing was satisfying: the traitors who raised their hand to the rightful ruler got what they deserved. The real colonel fights even the dead.
  12. +2
    1 October 2012 12: 47
    well !!! dead GADDAFI scares them even more !!! all so he is not a garden !!!!!!
  13. +6
    1 October 2012 13: 27
    The fact that Sarkozy and Berlusconi are cheaters, at least of European scale, no one doubts. But after all, Dima got involved in this company with his statements. Russia is shameful, the iPhone is under-formatted.
    1. +1
      1 October 2012 13: 50
      Quote: v53993
      iPhone unformatted

      Not badly said, let’s hope with the new boss he will be corrected.
  14. wax
    +3
    1 October 2012 13: 33
    It is also necessary that Gaddafi’s burial place is shown by the bastards.
    1. Che
      Che
      0
      1 October 2012 15: 12
      wax,
      Well, they won’t go for it, otherwise the crowd will not grow.
  15. 0
    1 October 2012 14: 20
    The article is good, only I have an assumption that they are removing witnesses to the murder of Gaddafi, not because they want to wash off this terrible tragedy, but because there may not have been a murder, but there was a pure re-enactment, like all other stories supposedly from Libya, not I’m surprised that this was filmed somewhere in Qatar .. The faces are the same everywhere, they wave flags at a demonstration, they are fired from a grenade launcher, then Gaddafi is killed ... somehow there are not enough actors prepared ... and they hide the burial DNA couldn’t be checked ...
    1. +1
      1 October 2012 19: 02
      Sorry, but this is a fairy tale ...
    2. +1
      1 October 2012 19: 34
      Unlikely. Too much money and compromising on Western politicians. In such cases, do not spare money and people to fix the problem. Such is our world.
  16. Raven
    +2
    1 October 2012 15: 56
    they want to lift the whole region by ears and it turns out they have unfortunately, only Iran and Syria are holding on for now
  17. +2
    1 October 2012 16: 24
    The 20-year-old Shaaban should not have appeared near Bani Walid.

    Comment
    As one of my acquaintances said ... the deceased ... "I knew too much"

    But in general: Dog dog death!
    negative
  18. -1
    1 October 2012 17: 54
    The anti-Koranic strategy of the West to create another fascist from Islam has failed.
    http://klin.ucoz.net/forum/6-61-208-16-1347512327
  19. Artillerist
    +1
    1 October 2012 21: 30
    http://world.lb.ua/news/2011/08/30/112573_liviya_lomka_stereotipov.html
    Read how life was in Libya. Very informative. The Libyans have destroyed stability with their own hands. Now welcome to the "primitive tribal" system.
  20. +3
    1 October 2012 21: 35
    - The economy is in decline. It rests only on the flow of free money, which is steadily decreasing. The country has not been producing anything for a long time, except for show-offs. The general decline in morality among the population. Reading books is considered a zapadl. Men, women and even children drink, take drugs and randomly have sex. Squealing rulers - on the show-off. They have long come off reality and believe in their divinity. Constant and useless provocations and quarrels with neighbors. The brutal security forces have long been unable to defend the country, but they regularly rob their own citizens ...
    “Eugene, stop reading the newspapers.” Go learn lessons.
    “So I teach.” We were asked about the decline and fall of the Roman Empire.
    1. 0
      2 October 2012 14: 40
      Respect !!! All right! And then it will only get worse.
      We need a global change in the global economic system. And everyone understands this. But nobody does anything. The powers that be are not necessary for this. They have everything ok, a lot of money, a lot of power, little responsibility. The weak of this world can do little lawfully / peacefully; the laws of the very world write it. And they won’t make a mistake for themselves, as you know, a raven is a raven .... Any other way is criminality and prison, or death. For only the victorious hero is a revolutionary hero, the loser is always a troublemaker / traitor / spy / terrorist, etc.
  21. m.metis2011
    0
    2 October 2012 01: 00
    What was required to prove!
  22. Lech e-mine
    0
    2 October 2012 17: 52
    I never doubted that such people didn’t live for a long time - I talked about this even last year.
  23. 0
    2 October 2012 21: 15
    yeah ... everywhere is chaos, where democracy has come ....
  24. olo-olo
    +1
    2 October 2012 23: 34
    The doors close, the next station is Damascus. the train goes to Krasnaya Ploshad station "
  25. Owl
    0
    3 October 2012 06: 32
    I hope that to the instigators of a new redivision of the world all the blood that they began to pour from their supply in northern Africa will come back and they (the USA, European satellites) will simply drown in this and in their blood.
  26. 0
    3 October 2012 07: 23
    I often say to lovers of market democracy that the West didn’t earn their loot at factories, but at the robbery of their colonies and the sale of blacks. And fairy tales about manufacture and a market economy are for the divorce of suckers. Divorced, then, the French and Italians Gaddafi to loot and ends in the water? And indeed a strange coincidence - their economies were staggering and they climbed into other countries. On the idea of ​​war, the dough is worth it, and if the economy is weakening, then where to fight - but no, really war and robbery come out - this is the Euro-American way of making a living! We just do not understand the mechanisms of this earnings. How can one make money on the enslaved Iraq with Libya? Can someone tell me?
    1. 0
      3 October 2012 08: 10
      Quote: Magadan
      We just do not understand the mechanisms of this earnings.

      The simplest: Buy cheaper (preferably for free) and sell more expensive.
      We will not talk about the natural resources of these countries, but:
      Quote: Magadan
      Diluted, then the French and Italians Gaddafi to loot and ends in the water

      Here the matter was not limited to divorce. An opinion has already been expressed here (not in this topic) that the money of these dictators went into the fight against the crisis.
      Not quite a topic, but to what extent sometimes the rich (especially ours) are naive. They store money in foreign banks and hope to use it if anything.
      Little by little pzhalsta, But all ...
      Yeah, schaz, Magnitsky’s first bell list!
      Right / Wrong or Legal / Illegal, it does not matter. The main thing is that these people will not see their (let's say) money.
      I think all the other identities.
      The fraudster has outwitted the fraudster.
  27. escobar
    0
    3 October 2012 11: 36
    I wonder if they are up against the new REGIME residents of Bani Valida, will it be rebels?
    1. -1
      7 October 2012 18: 04
      most likely, we won’t know about it, because Western media will not show this.
      1. +1
        7 October 2012 18: 37
        Quote: Su24
        western media

        are they only western?
  28. 0
    3 September 2017 12: 00
    Mr. al-Magref said: “What happened on September 11 in Benghazi does not in any way reflect either the desires and hopes of the Libyan people or their attitude towards the people of the United States. We are ready to cooperate with the American government to bring to justice those responsible for the deaths of American citizens in Libya. "

    And this year, September 11 is still ahead ...