With a new formula for paying for gas, Russia suppresses robbery from the West

Since the beginning of April, Russia has reformatted the payment for its gas in such a way that now Western friends have lost the opportunity to steal the money earned by the Russian Federation for this gas. This is the very surge of emotions that the West has been distinguished for in the past few days. He, this same West, is fundamentally not interested in what and how to pay for Russian energy carriers, he is interested in the fact that he is deprived of the mechanism of theft - the basis of his civilizational essence - when robbery is considered normal.

You can, of course, say that we are slandering "honest" Western "friends". But no. It is enough to read what former US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul wrote about - the one who called the Russians "wild people". McFaul bluntly stated that Russia "should continue to supply gas and oil to Europe, while Europe must freeze the funds that should be paid to Russia in bank accounts." Here it is - proof that Russia was robbed and were going to be robbed further. But no matter how much the rope twists ... The end of this has come.

Now everything is simple: if the West does not want to slide into the economy of the 19th century, then Russia is ready to help with its gas, but not for free. There is no simp. Buy gas - pay for it in your euros through an account opened with a Russian bank, and with mandatory conversion into the Russian ruble. If you want - please, if you don't want - also please. Russia does not oblige or force anyone to anything in this regard.

Mikhail Leontiev's thoughts on the gas payment formula in the Odnako program on Channel One.

Comments

[Alien From]

Now money in the morning, gas in the evening!

[Myths]

Until winter they will play win. There is also wood and firewood. You can burn with manure. To come up with new clothes for the whole of Europe so as not to drown at all and for the winter to smear fat on their faces like Chukchi. And this is not for rubles, it’s just that the center for storing and controlling finances in Russia will be squealing those whom the owner keeps on subsidies, otherwise it’s completely a khan.

[carpenter]

Quote: Alien From

Now money in the morning, gas in the evening!

It's simple, "bazaar - money - gas", but the money is in the bank of Russia.

[vlad106]

That's right!
Only for Russians, the price should be reduced to 50 kopecks per cubic meter

[Real Pilot]

"Putin's snow" covered Europe in April. Yes, they did, no joke.
Gas extraction from storage facilities continues, it is less than 25% there.
We observe erratic body movements and gestures, listen to almost profanity. We wait...

As for the substitution of Russian gas, all suppliers have already clearly told them. There is no easy way out.

But there is one more point: all LNG terminals are located in known places, these locations are "calibrated" to zero in minutes. Hot and loud. Therefore, in this aspect, there is no hiding from us, Russia has a golden share in European gas.
Let them ask their galloping proteges - they have already become acquainted with this phenomenon!

[ARIONkrsk]

I wonder how much Europe and the Baltic states will frown and resist ... they won’t run to take it right away, it seems like it’s indecent after their words that they will never buy for rubles.

[Soldatov V.]

No one will wince and resist. Everything has already been thought out and destroyed, new schemes for theft have been invented, Marx explained these situations, this is all for the public, you are boiling, everyone will announce their victory. In two weeks, everyone will forget about this alleged scandal.

[fa2998]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

it seems like it’s indecent after his words that they will never buy for rubles.

There is no need to repeat nonsense, even after the president. Western buyers for gas come with EURO. And only here the euro is exchanged for rubles, and they went to pay.
That's just why this payment was not used 10-15 years ago, it is not clear ???. Funds should work in our economy, and not lie in dead weight in mysterious banks, wait until they are arrested.

[Awaz]

do you know why? Because it was easier to steal from European banks and hide in offshore...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

it seems like it’s indecent after his words that they will never buy for rubles.

And they don't buy.

[Alien From]

The mice cried, pricked, but continued to eat the cactus)

[ARIONkrsk]

I would like to sell for oil, metals, fertilizers, agriculture and the rest for rubles and let them squeal to the whole world.

[Egoza]

We hoped that it would be spring, it would be warm, but then it got colder! Again they will say "General Moroz is helping the Russians!" Well, this is for the civilian population. But how is the production? So far, not everyone has terminals for American LNG. Until they build it, many enterprises will close. Will they open later? jump, jump, gentlemen Europeans! Ukrainians will definitely teach you this. Here you get warm!

[ARIONkrsk]

Hot summers also increase gas consumption.

[your vsr 66-67]

Here I am interested in one question! Why wasn't this done before?! After all, it’s not the first time they freeze accounts ...

[alystan]

Leontiev has been working at the GP for ten years already. And it worked out well.
But he does not finish talking only about the fact that the GP deprived huge flows of currency for essentially national gas (subsoil and everything that is in them ...). Now they will get used to living for rubles.

[ssergey1978]

Gas has not been popular for a long time, as well as everything in the bowels. It's been 30 years already.

[Tagan]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

I wonder how much Europe and the Baltic states will frown and resist ... they won’t run to take it right away, it seems like it’s indecent after their words that they will never buy for rubles.

Probably until the owner allows it.

[fif21]

In the 30s of the 20th century, the United States said - we sell our goods only for dollars and buy for dollars. As a result, all countries trading with the United States were FORCED to keep the dollar in reserves, or to buy it. So the dollar became the same commodity as jeans.

[Alexander Vanichev]

And what's the trick if they buy rubles in a Russian bank for a non-cash dollar? And what prevents then to block this non-cash dollar?

[stels_07]

They can also block it, the euro lies on correspondent accounts of eurobanks. The country had a chance to make the ruble not wooden, but ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Alexander Vanichev

And what prevents then to block this non-cash dollar?

Nothing interferes. But Gazprombank will have many, many dollars.

[Alexander Vanichev]

How many if they are frozen non-cash dollars?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Alexander Vanichev

How many if they are frozen non-cash dollars?

They will not be frozen. It will be possible to sell them to China. Or Venezuela, at worst.

[fif21]

Why does Gazprombank have to convert Euros into rubles? Why can't EU banks buy rubles through brokers and pay for gas supplies with them? Oh yes, I forgot - Gazprom has its own interests

[agond]

Quote: Alexander Vanichev

And what's the trick if they buy rubles in a Russian bank for a non-cash dollar? And what prevents then to block this non-cash dollar?

If they buy exactly as many rubles as a certain amount of gas costs, then nothing will change. Probably, the calculation is based on the fact that Western countries will accumulate reserves of rubles in their own country, just like we create reserves from their currencies, but this is completely, very unlikely, but in general, how can we continue to supply them with what they took away, they already took everything they could!!

[Ruby]

Why do they have to keep the ruble. They both paid in euros and will continue to pay. If we were obliged to make a ruble payment between their bank and ours, then yes, they would need to look for ruble liquidity somewhere. And the ruble the next day after the introduction of this scheme would become convertible. But whether it is beneficial to our government is a very big question. Most likely no. How will the budget be managed? Now, any deficit can be driven off simply by playing chicken.

[Ermak_Timofeich]

Why

Yes, in essence, the question has already been answered - in this case, they (adversaries) automatically lose the ability to block our foreign accounts. Part of the sanctions, under these conditions, is a "bubble" in a puddle.

[t-12]

the ability to block our foreign accounts disappears

Doesn't disappear. Correspondent accounts of Gazprombank will still remain in foreign banks. And these accounts are blocked in two accounts (sorry for the tautology).

There is no point in "selling for rubles" (according to the current scheme). Well, except for the television jingoism.

[Alexander Vanichev]

No.. It's just that Gazprombank is not under sanctions, otherwise Western countries would not be able to pay for gas supplies at all.

[plant15]

I do not understand the meaning of enthusiastic comments.
After several wonderful days experienced by an abundance of articles and even more abundant comments about the miracle ruble and "everything will be different," it turned out that only the account number for transferring their currency has changed for the buyer. Everything.
Whether this currency will be converted, handed over, glued toilets, ritually burned as a sign of contempt - these are purely our local amusements. It doesn't concern them.
Probably all other products, after significant prefaces and throwing caps, will be sold in the same way.

[Flooding]

Quote: plant15

After several wonderful days of experiencing an abundance of articles and even more abundant comments about the miracle ruble and "everything will be different", it turned out that only the account number for transferring their currency has changed for the buyer

it is strange that you did not notice the change in the ruble exchange rate

Quote: plant15

Whether this currency will be converted, handed over, glued toilets, ritually burned as a sign of contempt - these are purely our local amusements

Of course not
1. The state will no longer accumulate dollar and euro reserves. and this is essential
2. there remains a field of opportunities for playing on exchange rate differences between the Central Bank and the stock exchange
this is offhand

[rocket757]

Not everything there is simple and clear, but ... we will see.

[archiroll]

In this scheme, there is no demand for rubles over the hill. The same draining of resources, only the view on the right...

[Evgenijus]

If they (in Europe) do not have rubles, then let them pay in gold. What's the problem then? I don't think Russia will refuse...

[sen]

McFaul bluntly stated that Russia "should continue to supply gas and oil to Europe, while Europe must freeze the funds that should be paid to Russia in bank accounts."

The idea is good, but the execution. The Baltics are a trifle. But with the rest in Gazprom they can pull until the end of the special operation.

[agond]

Quote: Flood

1. The state will no longer accumulate dollar and euro reserves. and this is essential
2. there remains a field of opportunities for playing on exchange rate differences between the Central Bank and the stock exchange
this is offhand

1 if you first sell rubles for euros and then gas for rubles, then for any euro they remain with the seller of gas, that is, it continues to accumulate, this is a task for primary classes.
2 in order to play on the exchange rate differences of the ruble against the euro when selling gas, you need to abandon the price in euros previously prescribed in the contract and set a new one in rubles based on the purchasing power of currencies, will they go for it,

[plant15]

Quote: Flood

Quote: plant15

After several wonderful days of experiencing an abundance of articles and even more abundant comments about the miracle ruble and "everything will be different", it turned out that only the account number for transferring their currency has changed for the buyer

it is strange that you did not notice the change in the ruble exchange rate

Quote: plant15

Whether this currency will be converted, handed over, glued toilets, ritually burned as a sign of contempt - these are purely our local amusements

Of course not
1. The state will no longer accumulate dollar and euro reserves. and this is essential
2. there remains a field of opportunities for playing on exchange rate differences between the Central Bank and the stock exchange
this is offhand

All of the above does not apply to "payment in rubles" because it does not exist.

[p0pulivox]

With a new formula for paying for gas, Russia suppresses robbery from the West

And who are these mysterious and terrible people who outside plundered Russia with its complete non-resistance? Why did this go on for many years, can M. Leontiev explain?!

[chaknor]

It is clear to anyone who understands that this scheme excludes nothing. Rather PR ruble. Anyone who accepts euros in exchange for rubles runs the risk of losing them in the account. Gazprom Bank receives euros to the account (digits in the computer), gives them ruble numbers. They change these ruble numbers for gas, which you can’t take away in any way. But euro numbers can always be stolen. In this scheme, we need barter for the physical things we need (physical currency, goods).

[agond]

Quote from chaknor

In this scheme, barter is needed for the physical things we need (physical currency, goods).

Gas for rubles should have been introduced a long time ago, in the last century, but today barter would certainly be safer

[Alexander Vanichev]

What prevents the euro numbers from being blocked on the accounts of Gazprombank after the exchange?