Regrouping of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Izyum, Gorlovka, Nikolaev

Yuri Podolyaka

Judging by the columns of Russian troops that today "walked" in the Chernihiv and Sumy regions, the plan to storm Kyiv was real. But it was canceled, and now a huge mass of troops is being transferred to the south, sweeping away the "shkolota" from the so-called. "terodefense".

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[gorenina91]

Regrouping of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Izyum, Gorlovka, Nikolaev

- Ahh! Podolyaki's speech - as always - is absolutely about nothing!
- Well, the columns are coming! - And then what??? - All the same names - Gorlovka, Kramatorsk, Uglegorsk, Marinka, Nikolaev, etc. - and all the same - already stuck on the teeth - Raisins!
- There - a group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine gathered near Donetsk, numbering 55-60 thousand, and as it has already become clear - it does not lack shells, charges for MLRS, mines, cartridges and other ammunition - it even has fuel and has it (still por) - aviation and "point-U" installations. - And this group also occupies well-fortified positions. - It must be destroyed from the air - with very serious weapons (concrete-piercing bombs, missiles) with the help of strategic aviation; and inflict missile strikes on it with OTRK missile systems (operational-tactical missile systems) and other special means of high destructive power !!! - And strike for a sufficiently long period! - But artillery duels, mutual tank attacks and - especially head-on attacks on fortified positions - will not give anything! - The past month has shown that such attacks are of little use! - The Armed Forces of Ukraine are just waiting - these attacks in the forehead! - It has already become clear - like day!
- It is not entirely clear - what tactics did the military leadership of our RF Armed Forces choose ???

[Lech from Android.]

You should lead this special operation... certainly on the first day they would have taken Kyiv, on the second day Berlin, on the third Washington ... Kutuzov you are ours.

[gorenina91]

You should lead this special operation ... which, for sure, Kyiv would have been taken on the first day, Berlin on the second day, Washington on the third ... You are our Kutuzov.

- If you can read carefully, you would understand that I am against such captures "with a bang!" - We have been trying for a month now to take "with a bang!" - Yes, we're just marking time!
- It is necessary to destroy the enemies, and not follow their lead! - It’s just beneficial for the Nazis that our troops storm their fortified positions - this is how the United States prepared them! - And we have been following the APU for a whole month! - We were imposed such hostilities and we follow them! - Well, our next columns will come up, so what ??? - Attack those fortified in concrete (we ourselves constantly write about this - that the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are very strongly fortified and concreted) positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ??? - What is our advantage with such tactics ???
- Here you answer??? - Don't answer???
- Well, then sit on your Android - and play "space shooters" !!!

[Lech from Android.]

I read you very carefully ... you are our head of the mind chamber ... you replace the whole General Staff of Russia ... no one except you sees all the shortcomings ... even Podolyak.
War is always full of unaccounted for surprises, unlike you, I am more calm about all the vicissitudes of the war ... the most insidious enemy caught will hit our weak points that we do not see ... your experiences are commendable of course ... but these are all emotions, but not the mathematics of war.
We do not know the totality of data on this special operation.
I don't play space shooters...

[steelmaker]

Well, you are a disgrace! The woman asked a question, and you are engaged in verbiage.

[Flooding]

Quote: steel maker

The woman asked a question, and you are engaged in verbiage.

she has these questions wagon and cart
life is not enough to answer

help a friend with answers
look, it will be faster

[steelmaker]

"help a friend with answers"
If education is not enough to argue with a woman, it is better to be silent - you will pass for a smart one!

[Flooding]

Quote: steel maker

If education is not enough to argue with a woman, it is better to be silent - you will pass for a smart one!

education is not necessary to argue with a woman, my smart friend
who taught you such nonsense?

PS
and how, in principle, can one argue with one who, in each of her comments, puts the General Staff in a corner for incompetence?

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: steel maker

"help a friend with answers"
If education is not enough to argue with a woman, it is better to be silent - you will pass for a smart one!

You seem to be lacking in intelligence.

[ch28k38]

"Shaming a liar, scolding a fool and arguing with a woman - everything is the same as drawing water with a sieve, God save us from all three!" M.Yu. Lermontov.

[Lech from Android.]

Women ask me questions every day, you won’t get enough of all the nerves ... don’t be rude to the steelworker.

[Thunderbolt]

[/ quote] [quote = gorenina91] It is beneficial for the Nazis that our troops storm their fortified positions - this is how the United States prepared them! - And we have been following the APU for a whole month! - We were imposed such hostilities and we follow them!

How do you imagine with three less infantry to win a fast strategic Victoria? I understand very well that the messages and mottos from the Russian side at the first stage of the company were unambiguous and straightforward --- Forward to Kyiv! Gostomel will be ours, here are the paratroopers, Kyiv must be taken and all that. I will tell you so. Our troops near the city of Kyiv completed their task. They, like a magnet, attracted to themselves and fettered in battle the most secure and combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine outside the Donbass operational zone. In other words, they will now begin to dismantle the Donbas, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not be able send reinforcements to this Nazi group for two reasons ___
1./Superiority in the air over the Russian aviation communications. Sending each battalion, column, battle group ---- detection and destruction.
2 / The inability to weaken the Russian Kiev bridgeheads by transferring troops to the Donbass operational zone.
And the third interesting solution of the multi-move is the southern direction. The terrain is very favorable for the offensive. The sky is ours, the Sea is also. Blur the maps of the Second World War for the liberation of Soviet Ukraine in front of your clear eyes and you will see that the Russian falcon is attacking a scavenger from the zenith. And I believe in the victory of our guys. You just need to give a political guarantee that the Russians will not leave the recaptured lines. position. Nodding under bombs, ticking with fumes from large-caliber shells. We will heal everything that can be healed. On both sides. Mud now, fiery cold and intestinal stench "flies" over Ukraine. But, this is our forced measure. We will destroy the Dasrayhovtsev specifically.

[flicker]

Our troops near the city of Kyiv completed their task. They, like a magnet, attracted to themselves and forged in battle the most secure and combat-ready units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine outside the operational zone "Donbass"

All right. But it looks like we could take Kyiv, only according to the layouts Ukraine is on the threshold humanitarian disaster.
Two options emerge:
1 - take Kyiv and solve humanitarian problems of 2 million people who blame you for everything, or
2 - leave Kyiv with humanitarian problems to the Bandera people, so that the population is convinced of how the Bandera people (who can only destroy) will solve the pressing problems of the urban population.

Well, after the population begins to see clearly, you can move on to the capture of Kyiv.
Until then, let them mature.

[saigon]

Oh dear, what about the experience of our civil war at least?
The Reds occupied the center and could quickly transfer forces between the theaters of the database. It was not fast to retreat to their territory and in a circle and drive equipment on their own. Motor resources and other trifles. Although, on the other hand, pull the APU in the steppe away from cities

[Awaz]

Irinka is right. Just like I was right initially in incredible stupidity with the idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthis war. Well, that is, it was necessary to solve the most important problem - this is the removal of the front from Donetsk with the encirclement of the most combat-ready Ukrainian grouping. none of this was done, for this they got what they got. That is, right now, the authorities of the Russian Federation will look for an opportunity to get out of the topic without losing face. Probably the same, having gathered all the forces to squeeze out the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Donetsk region at the cost of incredible efforts and lives on both sides. Then they will continue the topic of negotiations with specific drains. I think that if the Kherson region is merged, Crimea will cease to be a resort. And the Belgorod region will become frontline for a long time with shelling and provocations, and in the Donbass there will no longer be shelling of Lugansk and Donetsk with hail, but Points U will occasionally fly, well, partisan sabotage and everything that accompanies the Bandera underground ...

[flicker]

Then they will continue the topic of negotiations with specific drains. I think that if the Kherson region is merged, Crimea will cease to be a resort.

Yeah, but your bloomers won't crack?

[Awaz]

time will judge. My life experience is huge and I know what the authorities in the Russian Federation are capable of. Wait not long

[host]

Quote: gorenina91

And then what???

And then Irina, as usual they will give you minuses, and as usual you will be indignant - "why "I told the truth!!"

[gorenina91]

And then Irina, as usual they will give you minuses, and as usual you will be indignant - "why belay? I told the truth！"

- Yes, I have all these minuses - in short - "purple-drum" - "I'm scared for the State!" (had to rephrase)!
- If you are a reasonable person, then you don’t need to explain anything else! - You yourself - what do you think - what assessment do you give (not to me ... - not to me - I'll manage somehow) what is happening ??? - To fight with the same means as the enemy and not to use the technical advantage - what is it ???
- Yes, you can not answer!

[Flooding]

Quote: gorenina91

To fight with the same means as the enemy and not to take advantage of the technical advantage - what is it ???

Calibers? Iskanders?
Nah! I did not notice.

[ch28k38]

"Dagger" forgot!

[Mikhail Sidorov]

Dagger" forgot!

Yesterday, a photo of a DPR fighter in a telegram saw him with a machine gun, a grenade launcher and a saber behind his back.

[Flooding]

Quote: ch28k38

"Dagger" forgot!

Thanks for the reminder

[Flooding]

Quote: gorenina91

Ahh!

that was enough
it is important to stop on time

Podolyak, unlike you, is listened to by millions.
And his task is not to bring confusion into the minds, as you do.
His task is to explain what is happening.
First of all, people who found themselves under the pressure of Bandera propaganda.

[stels_07]

Podolyaka has repeatedly said that Russia is there seriously and for a long time, but today it turns out that the settlements near Kiev have been abandoned

[Flooding]

Quote: stels_07

Podolyaka has repeatedly said that Russia is there seriously and for a long time, but today it turns out that the settlements near Kiev have been abandoned

what kind?
This is the second comment about this.

[stels_07]

https://youtu.be/U4R4Hee_tfY

[Flooding]

Podolyak also did not provide any specifics
Maybe we'll get more details tomorrow.

[flicker]

Podolyaka has repeatedly said that Russia is there seriously and for a long time, but today it turns out that the settlements near Kiev have been abandoned

The only thing that is certain is that we are curtailing activity there for the time being and regrouping our forces to clean up the Donbass.
This regrouping in no way cancels the fact that we entered Ukraine seriously and for a long time.

[flicker]

- It is not entirely clear - what tactics did the military leadership of our RF Armed Forces choose ???

Well, it's not clear. You also suggested

It must be destroyed from the air - with very serious weapons (concrete-piercing bombs, rockets

True, it is necessary to find out the exact coordinates of the underground concrete defensive communications.
But I think they figure it out.

[KIND LAVRENTIUS]

Quote: gorenina91

The past month has shown that such attacks are of little use ! - The Armed Forces of Ukraine are just waiting - these attacks in the forehead! - It has already become clear - like day!
- It is not entirely clear - what tactics did the military leadership of our RF Armed Forces choose ???

largely agree!
one gets the feeling that we are playing according to their plan ... we are calculated 3 steps ahead ....

[Gunther]

The rearrangement of beds is a good thing, of course, but I agree with Yuri that it is high time to explain to the inhabitants, for example, of Melitopol, what Russia actually wants in Ukraine, is going to stay, or leave leaving them alone with banderlogs.
What I disagree with is his crazy, in my opinion, statements on the subject of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which slammed polymers by 320 lard.

[ch28k38]

Takme assets cannot be instantly retrieved - not a wallet from your pocket.

[Fisherman]

Our raisins have already been taken .. completely ... even the Armed Forces of Ukraine recognized this ...

[ARIONkrsk]

It is interesting that Sumy wrote for a long time that they took it or I missed something.

[Aviator_]

It is interesting that Sumy wrote for a long time that they took it or I missed something.

Missed. They walked around and moved on.

[ARIONkrsk]

On the map, they are under control.

[Aviator_]

There are some cards and there are other cards. For the same Yuri Podolyaki, unoccupied cities in the rear of our troops are always circled in blue. It is true with Chernihiv, it is surrounded, and Sumy is on Ukrainian territory.

[Fisherman]

already taken ... completely ... dill confirmed with a howl.

[certero]

I really want to believe that this is not a preparation for a new Khasavyurt.

[ch28k38]

I hope that those who make decisions are not dumber than us.

[Aviator_]

I hope that those who make decisions are not dumber than us.

I hope so too. Only Khasavyurt was concluded not by stupid, but by greedy ones. I remember when, at the dawn of the government of the VVP, the Mir station was sunk, an official from the space office directly said that they, who made such a decision, were not stupid at all. And in vain - with a fool and what is the demand? Just put it in a psych ward. And you can ask from the money-grubber, and there will be an article.

[flicker]

Even such thoughts do not arise. Ukraine as a state has already covered itself with a copper basin, but the Armed Forces of Ukraine have remained so far. And the death of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass, we are regrouping our forces there.

[ARIONkrsk]

I would also look at the map with marks where taken, battles, it's easier to perceive.

[Oleg Kolsky]

And it reminds me of a retreat. Let God be wrong. But the campaign had a good talk in Istanbul. Heart-to-heart.

[flicker]

What's the point of retreating when victory is in your pocket?

[Rostock]

So far, only one prediction has come true. Strelkov. And all our miracle experts on state channels who shouted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine would scatter in 2 hours for me personally passed into the status of propagandists. I remember the phrase of a woman from one of my favorite films about the Second World War, They fought for their Motherland - if you undertook to fight, then fight properly. You cannot solve such cases half-measures. In 2014-2015 we already signed agreements with them. They rubbed them. What is the point now to persuade them to sign the next agreements that will be another respite for ukrov.

[flicker]

So far, only one prediction has come true. Strelkova

Isn't this the same Strelkov who merged Slavinsk, Kramatorsk, etc. and was ready to merge Donetsk?

[Rostock]

This is the Strelkov who, even before the start of the NMD, was the only one who gave a correct forecast for our offensive and already on the third day said that mobilization was needed and that he himself was ready to go.

[flicker]

correct forecast for our offensive

What's wrong with our advance?

[Rostock]

Kyiv is not taken, Kharkov, Sumy, Chernihiv are not taken. Nikolaev and Odessa are not even blocked. The Donbass grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not surrounded and hits Donetsk every day. Okay, in Donetsk, but also in Belgorod and Millerovo, Taganrog. They burned our BDK in the port of Berdyansk. 1350 dead, 3000 wounded. Several generals died there. The Kremlin did not count on such a result.

[flicker]

Kyiv is not taken, Kharkov, Sumy, Chernihiv are not taken.

And we set goals to take Sumy, Kharkov, etc.?
It seems like our goals: the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine.
What is not being done?
Demilitarization is in full swing.
Now we are starting to strengthen the solution of the problem of denazification. And the Nazis themselves will help us in this.
---
Unfortunately, we have losses.
But the losses of the Ukronazis are much larger than them, numbering about 50 thousand, including the wounded.

[Rostock]

Then why did our assault groups try to enter Kharkov? Denazification without occupying the territory is impossible.

[flicker]

Denazification without occupying the territory is impossible.

This is how to say it.
Nazism can do little without militarism. We are destroying all military infrastructure, ie. essentially the power component of Nazism. And what can Nazism do without the power component?
Take Kyiv for example, let's say the majority of the population blames Russia for everything and supports the Armed Forces of Ukraine (read: Bandera).
It is obvious that Ukraine is on the verge of a humanitarian catastrophe.
Moreover, the catastrophe was caused not by the war, but by the destruction of the Ukrainian economy over the past 8 years.
Which option suits us better:
a) a humanitarian catastrophe in Kyiv (where the population blames us), which is under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (read: Bandera)?
b) a humanitarian catastrophe in Kyiv (where the population blames us), which is under our control?
In the first option, Bandera (who can only destroy) must cope with the humanitarian catastrophe in Kyiv. Will they? I doubt.
How will the population of Kyiv treat them when they cannot cope with humanitarian problems?
How will the population of Kyiv treat the Bandera ideology, which will not be able to cope with the humanitarian problem?
This is denazification with the help of the Nazis.
And after that, a new stage will begin for the liberation of Kyiv.

Then why did our assault groups try to enter Kharkov?

Exactly then why they went to Kherson and Melitopol. In the latter, resistance was weak. In Kharkov excessive. As a result, in Kherson and Melitopol, the population lives a peaceful life, and in Kharkov, a front-line one.

[Rostock]

Well, if we tried to go to Kharkov, then the task was to take it. And how could it be otherwise. Kharkiv Russian city from which the events of 2014 began

[flicker]

Well, by analogy with chess: you make a move, and your next move depends on the opponent's move. If the question was to take Kharkov, they would have taken it. We entered with small forces, failed to catch on, bypassed it and moved on. So there was no task to take Kharkov. If he takes it, then we take it, no, we move on.
When planning an operation, consider different options.
We can say that the situation did not go for the best option.
Moreover, not the best option for Ukraine. If Kharkiv had supported our operation, then Ukraine would have had a chance to preserve its statehood. Now she doesn't have that chance. Since the West has already sentenced her. The only thing we are too pulled in the opinion of the West.

But to say that Kharkov's resistance is a surprise for the General Staff is not serious.

[Rostock]

The statehood of Ukraine will be supported by the West to the last opportunity. Simply because it is an Anti-Russia project and what is beneficial for our weakening, plus a lot of money has already been invested in it. The task of taking all these cities was set, but we encountered unexpected strong resistance.

[flicker]

The statehood of Ukraine will be supported by the West to the last opportunity

The last opportunity has arrived.

The statehood of Ukraine has been supported all these last 8 years. It was supported for the war with Russia, where it was supposed to die, leaving behind devastation and hunger, which is called a gift to Russia.

The war has begun, which means that the West no longer needs to support Ukraine, it has fulfilled its function.
In addition, energy problems begin near the West itself, which gradually turn into economic ones, including food ones.
So the West can no longer support Ukraine.

[KIND LAVRENTIUS]

Quote: Rostok

and that he himself is ready to go.

why didn't you go?
everyone who wanted to, everything has long been THERE !!!!!!

[Rostock]

And in the role of whom do you think he should go? In the role of an ordinary shooter? He must command the detachment, and for this business he promises to bring up the old volunteers of the participants in the events of 2014. And what do you mean long time ago? In the first month, no one was allowed in at all. Only a week ago there was infa that the Kremlin approved the participation of all comers.

[KIND LAVRENTIUS]

Quote: Rostok

He must command the detachment, and for this business he promises to bring up the old volunteers of the participants in the events of 2014.

What was stopping him from doing this?

Quote: Rostok

And what do you mean long time ago?

this means that after 24.02 everyone who WANTED was THERE !!!
a month before February 24.02, everyone who was IN THE TOPIC was informed through open sources how to go to war.

Quote: Rostok

In the first month, no one was allowed in at all.

and everyone was shown to the path next to the border crossing ...

[svoit]

Quote: AwaZ

this is the removal of the front from Donetsk with the encirclement of the most combat-ready Ukrainian grouping. none of this has been done

this was exactly what was intended, but peacefully, to stun the enemy with initial energetic actions and force him to sign a peace treaty, no war was originally intended. What even Zelensky told everyone about, because it was absolutely impossible to wage war with the means that were available on February 24.02. It even seems that not all the equipment was refueled after the exercises, since tankers were immediately required (almost on the second day they had to abandon the equipment).

[Rostock]

It looks like the truth. The same "show" was planned in Grozny. Drive so many tanks and heavy equipment into the city so that the enemy loses the will to resist without a fight. And at first it seemed that this would be the case.

[KIND LAVRENTIUS]

Quote: svoit

this was exactly what was intended, but peacefully, to stun the enemy with initial energetic actions and force him to sign a peace treaty, no war was originally intended.

I think you are close to reality.
I think it should be an agreement between the Russian Federation and the United States. The United States has recently shown that there is no desire to feed the UA and it is necessary to sell it at a higher price, and the sanctions will not be serious if the Russian Federation attacks and so on and so forth ... apparently, the UA elite worked in parallel, offering to merge the Russian Federation ... a tempting offer)))) )))
Our pecked!!! developed a plan to ride columns along the UA.
UA allowed to go deep 100 km deep into the territory and hit the rear support ...
in such scenarios, the UA statement about the defeat of the RF Armed Forces on the 5th day of the war does not look stupid ... as well as ... the statement about the losses of the RF Armed Forces in the first 5-10 days of the war.

[iz odessy]

from stupid information so on. official sources, people in the 21st century, having access to the network, reach out and run into idiots with obvious personal complexes. People are different, women with pathos, armchair experts, a Podoliaka scribbling a speech as if from "Maxim", a strange type of "onufrienko, broadcasting the sea with his personal swimming exercise against the background of the recording. For pro-ukro morons, it is generally impossible to somehow personalize them - they are just like bedbugs in " at the bottom". The reality, now, is "no change on the western front", who read E.M. Remarque. Fizzled out. This is the rule of wars and the calm before the storm. Experts, mostly pretentious cretins, and "analysts" providing information to the Kremlin, at least mediocrity. For example, the Donetsk Front. The number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, according to the estimates of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, is 80. The February raid on Kyiv was probably supposed to delay the part and create a favorable LDNR offensive there - it didn’t happen. And now imagine! Stalingrad ended with the capture of about 000 Germans and their allies. Operation Uranus from November to February. Rzhev, as a direction that fetters the transfer of the Wehrmacht and the SS to the south. Does it remind you of anything today? But then there was a mobilization of millions, because there were no cruise missiles do not take territory and do not make "boilers". Only infantry, only tanks with infantry. In general, we are on the eve of a big nix, this is obvious. But a very bloody "nixie"

[Rostock]

We cannot even imagine how big and how bloody. Even in the West they understand this. One of their well-known newspapers came out under the headline "The horsemen of the apocalypse saddle their horses." War, famine and death.