OTRK "Iskander": everything is as we warned

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The next object of close consideration for us will be the Iskander operational-tactical missile system. For about 15 years, the complex has been waiting in the wings, because what's the point in praising weaponsif it was not used for its intended purpose? And here it did not disappoint.

Indeed, the active use of new weapons provides a very large ground for analysis and reflection for those against whom these new items can be used tomorrow. There is something to think about in Poland, the Baltics and other places where today they demonstrate an unnecessarily negative attitude towards Russia.



A bit of history


And it all began ... It all began at the end of November 1939, when the ministry aviation In Germany, the development of Fritz Gosslau from Argus Motoren was submitted for consideration. The proposal contained a project for a remote-controlled aircraft capable of carrying a load of 1000 kg for a distance of 500 km. This is how the prototype appeared, from which the V-1 came out, and in 1942 the V-2, the brainchild of Wernher von Braun, was launched for the first time.

OTRK "Iskander": everything is as we warned

This is how the first cruise and first ballistic missiles were born. And both have a place in our story, both winged and ballistic.

The V-2 rocket was single-stage, had a liquid-propellant rocket engine, was launched vertically, had a prototype control computer (software mechanism) with a gyroscopic control system. Cruise flight speed is about 6 km/h for a range of more than 000 km with a trajectory altitude of 300-80 km. The warhead consisted of 90 kg of ammotol (a mixture of ammonium nitrate and TNT 800/50).

The idea of ​​quickly delivering almost a ton of explosives to a decent distance without the danger of losing the crew liked everyone in the Reich.

By the way, "V-2" became the first in the world stories a rocket that made a suborbital space flight, reaching an altitude of 1944 km in 188. It is not surprising that after the war, the V-2 became the prototype for the development of the first ballistic missiles in many countries, including the USSR.

So, in fact, Iskander and V-2 are very close relatives. They even look alike. And the development of technology made it possible to place a relatively small missile on an automobile or tracked chassis, making a new move in the development of tactical missile weapons. And, despite the intercontinental ballistic missiles that conquered the world, tactical systems also developed.


Tactical missiles have found their niche in the modern world. Instead of simply demolishing territories “to zero”, tactical missiles (even with nuclear charges up to 50 kt) are capable of destroying railway junctions, airfields, command and communication centers, power plants, air defense systems, bridges and warehouses.

Possible deviations from the aiming point are very easily compensated for by a nuclear charge with its broad soul.

In general, the world realized the need and validity of the development of tactical missiles, and those who could build - began to do it very actively.

The evolution of Soviet missiles is known to us. It all started in 1955 with the adoption of the R-11 tactical missile, or "Squall" ("Scud-A") by name in NATO.


In 1962, the R-11 missile ("Scud-B") replaced the R-17.


Both rockets were accelerated with the help of a liquid-propellant rocket engine and were controlled only at the initial stage of the flight, while the rocket engine was running. After the end of the acceleration section, the missile warhead fell freely, without any adjustment and control.

In 1975, the "Point", created by the great designer Sergei Pavlovich Invincible, entered service.


This complex used a 9M79 rocket with a solid fuel engine and small rudders in the middle of the hull.


In 1980, the Tochka was replaced by the Oka, the 9K714 rocket was also solid-propellant, but had lattice rudders in the stern for control. "Oka" served from 1980 to 2003.

And in 2006, the Iskander operational-tactical complex was adopted.


The complex caused a lot of controversy and rumors, mainly the declared characteristics were discussed, many of which were questioned. After 16 years in the history of distrust in the capabilities of the Iskander, they began to put an end to it. Fat dots. With large funnels.

Ballistic or aeroballistic?


Yes, today there are many subspecies of rockets, judging by the flight path. There are ballistic, aeroballistic, and quasi-ballistic ones have also appeared. More precisely, it appeared, because "quasi" is just about the "Dagger", which is a very specific experiment. Now work is underway to cross the "Dagger" and "Iskander" and then in general the result will be a terrible mutant that drives ballistic air defense computers crazy.

In order to appreciate the Iskander, one must generally understand the principle of its flight.

Ballistic trajectory is the trajectory of a bullet, oddly enough. Or a stone from a catapult. That is, the projectile is fired at an angle to the horizon and its flight takes place under the influence of gravity along the entire trajectory. As the projectile loses speed, the nose will drop steeper towards the surface, because both gravity and air friction will slow its flight. Not only range will suffer, but also accuracy. Therefore, ballistic missiles are fired not along a gentle trajectory, but along a parabola with a vertex at the highest point of the trajectory.

For Iskander, this is about 50 km. Such an average height, it is possible to accelerate in the already almost airless space of the upper part of the stratosphere and not worry about the satellites and the ISS. Yes, the range with such a trajectory suffers, but the speed increases, which makes it difficult to intercept. In addition, up there, you can still scatter decoys, adding work to enemy air defense systems.

Plus, in the section after acceleration, when the rocket picks up tremendous speed and begins to descend, you can very effectively control it with the help of rudders. Due to the high speed, the rudders do not have to be made large, everything will be done by the flow of incoming air, which, pressing on the rudders, will turn the rocket body to the oncoming flow at the right angle.

And here comes the time for the aerodynamic component. For the air that presses on the rudders, at supersonic speed, even at a small angle of attack (1-2 degrees) creates a lifting force that can be directed not only upwards, but also to the sides. This means that the rocket will maneuver quite normally, bending the flight path.

You can set the trajectory so that it becomes semi-ballistic. That is, the acceleration section to the top point, and then the trajectory is maximally stretched in the descent section precisely due to the implementation of lift at high speeds due to the aerodynamics of the rocket.

Thus, the trajectory of the rocket on the one hand will be semi-ballistic, since the ballistic curve is preserved with an ascent section, an upper point and a descending section. On the other hand, semi-aerodynamic, since in the atmospheric phase of the flight the rocket will use aerodynamic lift to slow down the descent and increase the range.


The Iskander combines both principles, because it is believed that the rocket flies along an aeroballistic trajectory. The ballistic part of the trajectory gives a greater range and the possibility of using decoys of various types in exoatmospheric flight. The atmospheric part makes it possible to constantly maneuver, albeit at the expense of a loss of speed.

At the end of the active acceleration section, the Iskander flies at a speed of about 2000 m / s. The maximum speed at the end of the descent section at the boundary of the atmosphere is 2600 m/s. The speed near the target is 800 m / s.

Where does the speed go, of course. It takes to overcome air resistance when maneuvering, but increases the accuracy of warhead delivery. So the usually given “working” height of the Iskander at 50 km does not at all show what the trajectory is in reality. It can be a steep ballistic arc, and gentle glide from a height of 50 kilometers. But this is correct.

The main thing is that the Iskander has the ability to maneuver in any part of the flight path. Where due to the engine, where due to the rudders. Plus a set of dropable decoys (Iskander-M) and electronic warfare modules.

In order for the rocket to successfully overcome the entire trajectory, an engine is needed. It is he who provides both the speed and range of the rocket.

Engine


The Iskander engine runs on solid fuel. This is more modern than LRE, since even on the ground it eliminates the need to transport and refuel the rocket with various liquids, which require a bunch of specialized tanks to move. Solid fuel provides both faster refueling and faster launch, even if it comes at the cost of less thrust.

Difficulties also take place, since solid fuel should not lose density during storage, compress or lose uniformity.

What the Iskander is filled with, of course, is under the heading. But one can guess by looking at those types of solid rocket fuel that are not classified.

Typically, finely dispersed aluminum and elastic hydrocarbons are used as fuel. The oxidizing agent is ammonium perchlorate NH4ClO4. Four oxygen atoms from an ammonium perchlorate molecule are easily released when heated, and aluminum burns just fine in them. At the same time, the combustion temperature is about 3300 degrees Celsius. And in this environment, the following components burn perfectly: nitrile butadiene rubber or hydrocarbon polybutadiene acrylonitrile.

There are still many different chemistry in any solid fuel, plasticizers so that the fuel mass is malleable and can generally be filled into a rocket, epoxy hardeners, oxidation inhibitors, combustion catalysts, fuel phlegmatizers, which make it insensitive to friction and temperatures.

The finished propellant has approximately the following composition:
- 69,6% ammonium perchlorate NH4ClO4;
- 16% metallic aluminum;
- 12% polybutadiene acrylonitrile;
- 1,96% epoxy hardener;
- 0,4% iron as a catalyst.

Physically, it resembles a pencil eraser. But it burns more than excellently, for a very short time. During this time, the rocket travels about 15 kilometers. The engine provides acceleration to the rocket, which flies by inertia the entire further path. This indicates a very decent engine thrust.

Design



Structurally, the Iskander consists of two parts. The rear is cylindrical, in which the engine and fuel compartment are located, and the front is conical with a fairing, where the warhead, decoys, control unit, rudder drives, and so on are located. A lighter forefoot allows for a rear center of pressure. CD is a point on the longitudinal axis of the rocket through which the resultant of all aerodynamic forces passes.

The farther from the center of mass the center of pressure is shifted, the more stable the rocket is in flight in the air.

Aerodynamic rudders are made of heat-resistant materials, since when flying at supersonic speeds above 7M, they are heated up to 1000 degrees by friction with air. The body of the rocket is covered with a heat-shielding material, which simultaneously plays the role of a radar absorber. The fact that the gas-dynamic rudders (four pieces are located in the outflowing gas jet in the engine nozzle) are made heat-resistant is not worth saying. They control the movement of the rocket in the area of ​​active acceleration and in rarefied air. This is how the progenitors of the V-2 operated.

Management system


The mind of the control system, which must deliver the warhead to a specified point in space, is an inertial measuring unit. It is based on three accelerometers that continuously measure acceleration along three spatial axes. Next up are the integrators. The first line of integrators turns the acceleration indicators into the speed of movement along the three axes, and the second line into coordinates.

Thus, the inertial unit "knows" the speed, direction of the rocket and the current coordinates. The angular displacement of the rocket is calculated by receiving data from the gyroscopes.

The control system compares the data obtained by measurements and entered before the flight by software and determines the amount of discrepancy in each individual second of the flight. Based on the discrepancies, a command is issued to the gas-dynamic and/or aerodynamic rudders to bring the rocket into the calculated position.
Maneuvering

As already mentioned, the Iskander is able to maneuver throughout its flight. This makes interception a very problematic task, since if there is a threat of interception, then the Iskander is capable of carrying out the so-called small-scale maneuvering throughout the entire flight. That is, a number of small deviations that do not eat much speed and do not affect the overall combat course.

The greater the overload during maneuvering, the more difficult it is to intercept, since the anti-missile also needs to be able to withstand overloads up to 30-40g. And this is problematic both for the rocket body and for the computing unit.

In general, an anti-missile must "see" the target for effective destruction. And the closer the anti-missile is to the target, the more difficult it is, because the target constantly leaves the field of view of the anti-missile. It is clear that the entire interception is based on the calculation of a certain point at which the Iskander and the anti-missile should meet. But if the Iskander flies at a speed of 6-7M and at the same time constantly maneuvers with overloads up to 30g, then the anti-missile must also maneuver in order to keep the target in lockdown.

If the overload exceeds the limit values ​​for the anti-missile, then the PR will simply collapse and will not be able to complete its task. And if the PR cannot keep the constantly twitching target in the capture field, then the guidance process will simply stop and the task of anti-missile maneuvering will be completed.

How this is implemented is also very interesting. As such, there is no algorithm, there is a random number generator. The control system calculates a certain point, it is quite possible, the aiming point. This point is the center of a circle of a certain diameter. The system, using a random number generator, selects a certain point within this circle and puts a “cross” of the sight there, respectively, directing the rocket there. As soon as the missile is at this point, the next point is selected and the missile is redirected.

It turns out that the rocket "dances" around the aiming point, without deviating strongly from it. But not on a perfect course either. For an anti-missile, it will be very difficult to calculate the meeting point. The RNG will select a random point each time, so it will be very difficult to predict in which direction the rocket will deviate in the next period of time.

Of course, this is a very simplified possible scheme for the operation of the Iskander logical blocks, in fact, everything is much more complicated, although the above scheme gives an understanding of how it works in principle.

And on the final leg of the flight, you can no longer maneuver. High speed and almost vertical dive on the target already make it very difficult to intercept the missile. And the presence of an optical seeker simplifies the correction of the flight path in the final section.

The latest improvements of the Iskander make it possible to equip the rocket with an optical seeker. It is installed instead of a pointed fairing and increases the hit accuracy to a deviation of 5-7 meters.

The 9E436 optical seeker for the Iskander OTRK operates according to the following principle: a picture of the area around the target, previously taken by a satellite, aircraft or UAV, is loaded into the memory of the missile control unit. When approaching the target area, the missile recognizes the area around the target using an optical seeker and compares it with a memory map.

It is clear that the picture and the image from the GOS will differ, since they may have different shooting angles. Starting from the moment of operation of the OGSN, the control unit will constantly compare the image from the image with the image received from the OGSN and calculate the degree of correlation (coincidence) of the stored and visible images.

As the target approaches, the terrain is visible more and more correctly, the correlation of the two images grows, reaching a maximum directly at the target. The block can predict which change in the direction of the missile's flight can increase the degree of coincidence of the pictures, and hence the accuracy of the hit.

It looks like the work of the Javelin ATGM, only several tens of times more complicated.

The control unit will constantly solve the problem of correcting the course of the rocket in order to achieve the maximum match between the visible image and the standard in memory. The result will be an accurate hit on the target.

Optical seeker 9E436 can be used at relatively low speeds (if 700-800 m / s is a low speed) in the target area, since then a plasma ionization layer is not formed, which blinds the seeker.

If the Iskander is used at speeds above 1000 m / s, then the 9B918 radar seeker is used, which is not so susceptible to atmospheric influences.

This guidance method is called correlation-extreme and is used today on all cruise missiles. And for the first time it was used by the Americans on their Pershings back in the 80s of the last century.

Warhead



The Iskander warhead weighs 480 kilograms and has several equipment options.

1. Cluster warhead with 54 fragmentation submunitions of non-contact detonation, triggered at a height of about 10 m above the ground. Undermining produces a remote fuse 9E156 using a laser rangefinder and a radio altimeter.

2. Cassette warhead with PTAB-2.5KO HEAT fragmentation submunitions, capable of penetrating the armor of the roof of armored vehicles up to 20 mm thick.

3. Cluster warhead with self-aiming combat elements SPBE-D. Elements are guided using their own radar and IR seeker.

4. Cassette warhead of volumetric detonating action to destroy manpower and equipment among buildings and in shelters.

5. Cassette warhead, which allows remote mining with PFM-1 mines or POM-2 “Edema” self-aligning mines, or anti-tank mining with PTM-3 magnetic mines.

6. Penetrating high-explosive warhead to destroy command centers in reinforced concrete bunkers.

7. High-explosive fragmentation warhead for hitting point targets, as well as equipment and people next to it.

8. High-explosive incendiary warhead to destroy ammunition depots and fuel and lubricants.

9. Special (nuclear) warhead with a capacity of up to 50 kilotons.

The reliability of the detonation of warheads and submunitions is based on the use of well-designed fuses and detonation systems, and the power of the explosives used ensures high destruction efficiency and wide combat capabilities of the Iskander.

The composition of the Iskander OTRK



OTRK "Iskander" consists of six types of machines:

- Self-propelled launcher (SPU 9P78-1). Designed for storage, transportation, preparation and launch of two missiles on the target on the MZKT-7930 chassis. Calculation 3 people.

- Transport-loading vehicle (TZM) (9T250/9T250E). Designed to transport an additional two missiles and charge the launcher. Made on the MZKT-7930 chassis, equipped with a loading crane. Calculation 2 people.

- Command and staff vehicle (KShM 9S552). Designed to control the entire Iskander complex. It was made on the KamAZ-43101 wheeled chassis. Radio station R-168-100KA "Aqueduct". Calculation 4 people.

- Machine regulations and maintenance (MRTO). Designed to check the on-board equipment of missiles and instruments, to carry out current repairs. Made on a KamAZ wheeled chassis. Calculation 2 people.

- Information preparation point (PPI 9S920) on the KamAZ-43101 chassis. Designed to determine the coordinates of the target and prepare flight missions for missiles with their subsequent transfer to the SPU. PPI is interfaced with reconnaissance means and can receive tasks and assigned targets from all necessary sources, including from a satellite, aircraft or UAV. Calculation 2 people.

- Life support vehicle (MZhO) on the KamAZ-43118 chassis. It is intended for accommodation, rest and eating of combat crews.

Complex. Autonomous, able to move anywhere and wait in the wings there. And then there will be what we could already observe: the blow is inevitable and accurate.


Actually, everything, as predicted earlier, now sign for confirmation.


And that's not all.

Work continues within the walls of the Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering. Now the modernized Iskander-M is being put into service, with a range of over 500 km. But to be continued.

Today is the 9M728 cruise missile of the Iskander-K complex.


A high-precision cruise missile, about which nothing really is known. The range of 9M728 in different sources ranges from 500 to 2500 km, and the part responsible for the accuracy of guidance is no different from the Iskander-M, which unequivocally classifies the missile as a high-precision weapon.


Cruise missile 9M728 / R-500 of the Iskander-K complex. The initial stage of flight, before the opening of the wing. Photo: Russian Ministry of Defense


It is clear that the missile is subsonic, which will allow it to fly at low altitude when approaching the target, and the optical seeker, using the same guidance and analysis methods as the Iskander-M, will allow hitting targets no less effectively.

We will not go into the details of the classified performance characteristics, this is completely useless. It is also pointless for now to draw conclusions and speculate about certain strengths and weaknesses of the complex.

"Iskander" showed its importance by participating in a special operation in Ukraine. And now many issues have been removed from the agenda, because, having good air defense systems of the S-300PS type, the air defense of Ukraine could not oppose anything to the Iskanders, which in the first days clearly worked out at airfields and other objects of the military infrastructure of Ukraine.


Meanwhile, the Ukrainian "Tochki-U" Russian air defense systems are systematically shot down, with virtually no chance of success.

In the end, it is worth noting that at one time the United States had a very worthy Pershing complex, a two-stage rocket of which could fly 1800 km at a speed of about 8M.


After the ratification of the INF Treaty, the Pershings were withdrawn from service. And in the United States, they practically abandoned all work in this direction.

Maybe all the same in vain? However, we are more than satisfied with this arrangement.
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  1. +32
    April 1 2022 03: 54
    "Oka" served from 1980 to 2003.

    Just not in the Russian Army, another "thank you" Gorby.

    It looks like the work of the Javelin ATGM, only several tens of times more complicated.
    Come on! So much harder that it doesn't look like it at all!

    Nothing is written about the reduced radar signature of the launcher. And this is considered quite important.
    1. +2
      April 1 2022 08: 24
      Why doesn't it look like it? There is a comparison of the picture of the goal with the goal itself, this is the similarity.
      1. +7
        April 1 2022 08: 39
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        There is a comparison of the picture of the goal with the goal itself

        Not the target, but the terrain around the target. In the case of Java, it is exactly the opposite, before launch, an image of the target is created and in the process this image is separated from the image of the terrain and interference.
      2. +1
        April 6 2022 11: 57
        Can Iskander shoot with calibers? Or a bastion?
        1. 0
          April 6 2022 18: 01
          Iskander can, Bastion can't.
    2. 0
      April 1 2022 20: 24
      Quote: Vladimir_2U

      Nothing is written about the reduced radar signature of the launcher. And this is considered quite important.

      A tactical missile gun, and I don’t understand radar here .. If it’s not difficult, then explain.
      1. 0
        April 2 2022 04: 23
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        and here I don’t understand radar .. If it’s not difficult, then explain.

        Reduced visibility from the air. A-50 detects launchers (not launch) of OTRK from 300 km. by office data.
        1. 0
          April 9 2022 04: 04
          Nonsense why then all the zozlyatsky points are intact
  2. -14
    April 1 2022 04: 05
    OTRK "Iskander": everything is as we warned

    - Now, if now (not tomorrow - namely today!) Several series (15-20 series) of strikes (and not pinpoint strikes - namely a series of strikes) were inflicted on the positions of the accumulated forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (where a compact group is assembled - a whole group Armed Forces of Ukraine numbering - 55-60 thousand) - then one could say that our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will really have chances to radically turn the tide in their favor !!!
    - These series of strikes will disrupt all communication between the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, disorganize the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, cause general panic; what will inspire many who still "hope for victory" - to draw "correct conclusions" that it is not worth fighting on the side of the fascist regime! - And here the USA cannot even help - supervising and guiding the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine !!!
    - But will these serial strikes be made by the Iskander OTRK complexes ??? Personally, I am absolutely not sure about this!
    1. +10
      April 1 2022 06: 11
      Are you really a woman?
      1. Are you really a woman?
        ---
        The question needs to be different
      2. +5
        April 1 2022 06: 41
        - I am a military officer (reserve officer).
        1. -2
          April 1 2022 07: 00
          the manner and logic in your case of an officer with service experience above the company level ... But now the answer is clearly feminine.
          Quote: gorenina91
          - I am a military officer (reserve officer).
          So, some people worked out the cost to see
          1. -2
            April 1 2022 08: 44
            the manner and logic in your case of an officer with service experience above the company level ... But now the answer is clearly feminine.

            - It's nice to hear about the experience!
            - My VUS and training - gives me the opportunity to see - how illiterate and unprofessional the special operation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is being carried out - missing the opportunity to act very effectively and destructively in relation to the Armed Forces of Ukraine! - I'm not even sure that this is being done - NOT on purpose !!! - Another here - just do not think!
            1. KLV
              +2
              April 1 2022 10: 04
              My VUS, my! Military specialty.
              1. -8
                April 1 2022 10: 47
                Military specialty.

                - You teach a lesson, or what?
                - When you say my VUS - then "say" - he! - But, if you like, then say "my VUS"!
                - This is coffee - it; and coffee - this is it !!!
                1. +8
                  April 1 2022 14: 07
                  Irina, are you trying to teach literacy while making incredible mistakes? Offhand, punctuation marks in Russian are written together with words. The letter (or rather the word) I is written with a small letter. Proceed?
                  1. -21
                    April 1 2022 15: 29
                    The letter (or rather the word) I is written with a small letter.

                    - Vaughn went!
                    1. +11
                      April 1 2022 15: 41
                      Oh, we are also an illiterate brute! You should probably go to school in the third grade. Learn a lot.
                    2. +5
                      April 1 2022 16: 11
                      Oh, I forgot, the dash before the phrase is generally a masterpiece of illiteracy. You, by any chance, do not write through Google from small Britain?
                2. 0
                  April 1 2022 18: 17
                  I accidentally consulted with philologists here. Yes, abbreviations are usually assigned to the masculine gender, but the rules of the Russian language do not prohibit the use of direct reference to the noun. So, the word VUS can be used both in the masculine and in the feminine. That's it girl (fix your bows)!
            2. 0
              April 1 2022 11: 26
              Quote: gorenina91
              - how illiterate and unprofessional the RF Armed Forces carry out a special operation

              Our president hates to shed blood. In some cases, this is literally salvation. In others... I don't know. So far there is not enough information.
              1. +7
                April 1 2022 17: 57
                It's not about the blood here. Mariupol, Slavyansk, Severodonetsk, etc., these are the cities whose residents voted in the referendum in 2014! And these are not stoned residents of Lviv or Ternopil. They, despite 8 years of propaganda, can be returned.
            3. +5
              April 1 2022 18: 09
              That is, you want the RF Armed Forces to directly genocide the Armed Forces of Ukraine together with civilians, who are essentially our relatives?
              As for the people from the Armed Forces of Ukraine - I do not consider them people. Well, how did they manage to allow themselves to afford to hide in hospitals, kindergartens, schools? And hiding behind civilians as a shield? No, for me, since that 2014, they are no longer people ... Sub-humans ... Or, as the late Hitler said (so that he fried well in a pan in hell) - untermenschi ...
            4. -1
              April 3 2022 19: 50
              Usually, a soldier who is in a trench and sees what is happening ahead 500m, the field of view is 60 degrees, thinks this way.
      3. +2
        April 1 2022 07: 07
        Quote: lithium17
        Are you really a woman?


        Hmm ... For what purpose are you interested?
        1. +1
          April 1 2022 08: 25
          Take by storm, probably dissolve feathers.
    2. +4
      April 1 2022 07: 31
      That's just where this group is located, there are also cities in which, for a minute, there are several hundred thousand people.
    3. +4
      April 1 2022 22: 53
      What you ... You argue correctly, theoretically, with the exception of such a "small" nuance: the accumulation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is not in a clean field, there is an agglomeration of settlements, the distance between which is often measured by the thickness of a road sign indicating the end of one and the beginning of the next, and the settlement - - this is "peace". Do you also propose to cover them with a "series of blows"?
    4. +2
      April 6 2022 18: 45
      Quote: gorenina91
      - Now, if now (not tomorrow - namely today!) Several series (15-20 series) of strikes (and not pinpoint strikes - namely a series of strikes) were inflicted on the positions of the accumulated forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (where a compact group is assembled - a whole group Armed Forces of Ukraine numbering - 55-60 thousand) - then one could say that our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will really have chances to radically turn the tide in their favor !!!

      And what number of missiles in each salvo do you suppose? And isn't it expensive for a grouping of 55 - 60 thousand in the area of ​​​​several districts of two regions to hammer with one "Iskander-M"? Did you estimate the cost, availability, stock?
      And this is for the sake of warhead 450 kg.
      Such a tool should be used specifically for headquarters and other high-priority targets. And in clusters and MLRS (Smerch, Hurricane) will work quite well for themselves. But the main striking force is ground attack and bomber aircraft with the FAB-500 and FOB-250. And if something is especially strong and deep - FAB-1500. Each FAB-500 of one Iskander with a high-explosive warhead is worth it in terms of power, but even Su-25s, 4 pieces + at a time, can be taken. And this is "ordinary cast iron", of which there are still a lot in warehouses since the times of the USSR.
      Quote: gorenina91
      - But will these serial strikes be made by the Iskander OTRK complexes ??? Personally, I am absolutely not sure about this!

      Save your Iskanders for NATO. For them, it will be more important.
      otherwise an adversary will come to intercede for Nenka, and you have all the Iskanders gone to waste.
    5. 0
      April 6 2022 20: 14
      At first they thought that we would drive in columns through the territory of Ukraine and all the Nazis themselves would run away. Now it's sobering that this is really serious and got into trouble for a long time.
      1. 0
        29 August 2022 12: 43
        Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side.
  3. +17
    April 1 2022 04: 35
    what And why did they try to fasten the Fritz and the Fau to the Iskander? Yes, and "Jevelyn" why? request
    1. +14
      April 1 2022 08: 43
      Firstly, in order to fill the number of characters, and secondly, to "shine" with erudition.
      1. 0
        April 1 2022 19: 38
        "Eraser" with "stylus" confuse ..
  4. +20
    April 1 2022 04: 56
    The article can be briefly described ... "compote"! "Running" through the eyes of the "content" of the article, it can be noted that part of the "information" is not controversial; and part is presented in a very simplified way ... (in places, to the primitive ...)! In general, I decided not to participate in the discussion of this article ...
  5. +12
    April 1 2022 05: 05
    The confusion grows stronger.

    There are many pearls and absurdities.
    Here is one - Where does the speed go, of course. It takes to overcome air resistance when maneuvering, but increases the accuracy of warhead delivery.

    What is the accuracy here?
    1. +9
      April 1 2022 09: 42
      [/b]Solid fuel also provides faster refueling[b]
      No comments
      1. +11
        April 1 2022 15: 20
        What's wrong? While you are pouring from the canisters, being afraid to spill it, and then immediately threw a piece of coal into the engine with a shovel and immediately started it!
        1. +4
          April 1 2022 16: 14
          And with bags or bundles, it will be even faster.
          I remembered Nikulin from samoschikov
    2. +2
      April 1 2022 09: 52
      Stop, look around if it flies correctly laughing
    3. fiv
      0
      April 1 2022 10: 14
      For more accurate targeting, the rocket has to maneuver. During maneuvers, the resistance to the movement of the rocket in the airspace increases. Because of this, the flight speed is reduced.
  6. +7
    April 1 2022 05: 29
    TZM should probably hold more than two missiles. Otherwise, they can be replaced with two launchers and not bathe.
    1. +1
      April 1 2022 07: 09
      TZM is simply cheaper, and Iskander is not an RZSO, but the task of a single salvo is not worth it.
  7. KCA
    0
    April 1 2022 07: 01
    Why is the SBC only 50kt? The officially announced mass of TYABCh 200kt X-55SM and X-102 410kg, even fits into 480kg, it’s still interesting, not for espionage purposes, but for general development, what composition of high-explosive warhead explosives is clearly not hexogen with silver, but more on that there is no information at all, although it is not a secret for spies, for sure every funnel after being hit by Iskander and Dagger missiles was carefully sniffed and samples were collected
  8. +12
    April 1 2022 07: 06
    I don’t know about Scuds, but epic garbage has been written about the Point.
    1. +6
      April 1 2022 08: 42
      It is more important that the epic! I did not analyze the epicness in the first comment, because in this case the comment is immediately deleted. laughing
    2. +16
      April 1 2022 08: 44
      Writing epic bullshit is Roman's signature style.
      1. +4
        April 1 2022 12: 05
        Permission to use your quote as a universal comment? laughing drinks
        1. 0
          April 1 2022 12: 10
          For God's sake!
  9. +21
    April 1 2022 08: 01
    Author, if you do not know the topic, do not be misleading. You don’t even know which missiles are tactical and which are operational-tactical fool
    9K714 "OKA" was withdrawn from service in the USSR in 1987, thanks to Judas Gorbachev.
    You don't have to trust wikipedia
    1. +5
      April 1 2022 08: 46
      Anyone can offend a journalist-encyclopedist, not everyone can run away! Be careful, take care of yourself! laughing
    2. +8
      April 1 2022 09: 15
      Quote: Good
      thanks to Judas Gorbachev.

      In fact, then the Extremely Wise Servant from the Georgian country Shevardnadze tried very hard! Behind him is not one major dirty trick against Russia! A true member of the "fifth column"!
  10. 0
    April 1 2022 08: 49
    Quote: gorenina91
    - My VUS and training - gives me the ability to see -
    here you can see the feminine essence .... VUS has nothing to do with it, but the preparation is clear that they were sitting at the headquarters!
    1. KLV
      +3
      April 1 2022 10: 08
      I already wanted to ask about "frying cutlets", but I won't say anything ... feel
    2. Urs
      +2
      April 3 2022 02: 01
      Yes, leave me alone from the ladies. There is such a swing at the leadership of the General Staff that it’s already scary. So far, the generals only rule with finances and pots and clothes love in the Moscow Region, it’s fashionable, and then swing at the sacred = General Staff belay
  11. +1
    April 1 2022 08: 54
    So I look at the option with cruise missiles and think: is it possible, in principle, to change launchers and place more missiles there? In terms of dimensions, at least a couple more will come in, if not four.
    1. +3
      April 1 2022 09: 25
      Quote: Wedmak
      place more missiles there? In terms of dimensions, at least a couple more will come in, if not four

      And what is there 4? There are North Koreans shmagli!

      DPRK. 600 mm MLRS
    2. +2
      April 1 2022 09: 50
      There are probably some calculations that estimate the theoretical survivability of an average launcher in a high-intensity conflict. And depending on them, as well as on the difference in cost between the "current" and more capacious PU, a decision is made on the most optimal option.
      A super-armed launcher will be larger and will be a more tasty target for destruction by enemy counter forces - along with it, its ammunition will also be destroyed, and its cost will be higher than that of a smaller one (+ the cost of ammunition).

      In short, there is clearly logic in the style of "do not put all your eggs in one basket." In addition to certain values ​​​​for pressure on the ground and engineering coatings, which also appear in the calculations of military equipment from the very beginning of its design.
  12. +5
    April 1 2022 09: 07
    For about 15 years, the complex has been waiting in the wings, because what's the point in praising a weapon if it was not used for its intended purpose?

    The highlanders say: "A dagger that may be needed once in a lifetime must be worn for a lifetime."
  13. -5
    April 1 2022 09: 45
    Great article Roman! Taking off my hat ! Please write more of these, very well read and very informative.
  14. +6
    April 1 2022 10: 01
    "The "working" height of the Iskander is 50 km"

    There is no such thing as operational altitude for ballistic missiles.

    And this.... About Scud. There was also an otrk Luna. He appeared earlier and even carried apple emnip.
  15. +12
    April 1 2022 10: 43
    As the projectile loses speed, the nose will drop steeper towards the surface, because its flight will be slowed down by both gravity and air friction. Not only range will suffer, but also accuracy. That's why ballistic missiles fire not on a gentle path, but along a parabola with the apex at the highest point of the trajectory.

    solid fuel provides faster refueling...

    It looks like the work of the Javelin ATGM, only ten times more difficult.

    Author, please do not write technical texts about missiles and ballistics, this is not yours.
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  17. 0
    April 1 2022 11: 20
    Adjusted for modernity, it is probably possible to equip ballistic anti-ship missiles ...
    And the main trends for such machines are BR in containers and various sizes. For more flexibility. And the CD can be put into such a volume 4 pieces. Ideally :
    1. 2 pcs standard
    2. 4pcs CR
    3. 4-6pcs BR type 300mm tornado with correction.
    Everything in TPK and one chassis for everything. and it also asks for a GOS with a thermal imaging system.
  18. +7
    April 1 2022 12: 01
    In 1980, the Tochka was replaced by the Oka, the 9K714 rocket was also solid-propellant, but had lattice rudders in the stern for control. "Oka" served from 1980 to 2003.

    - since 1980? She was adopted only in 1983!
    - for 2003? In fact, all the complexes were "cut" in until 1989 under an agreement with the United States on the elimination of intermediate and shorter-range missiles (INF), even all the documentation on them was destroyed ...
    - "it was also solid-propellant, but it had lattice rudders for control" - but what, lattice rudders somehow negatively affect the control process in flight of solid-fuel rockets? Do liquid unis work better?
    1. +4
      April 1 2022 19: 28
      since 1980? She was adopted only in 1983!
      - for 2003? In fact, all the complexes were "cut" until 1989 under an agreement with the United States on the elimination of medium and shorter range missiles (INF),
      You are right, and the author simply copied and pasted the Wiki section with this nonsense.
  19. +5
    April 1 2022 13: 23
    an inertial guidance or navigation system is certainly cool. For 1975-76. I still remember, self-propelled guns -6 on the "T6" product
    1. -1
      April 1 2022 19: 41
      INS is still and in the foreseeable future the main system for all types of missiles, anti-aircraft guns and drones. The reason is that it is a "thing in itself", no information from the external environment is needed. It cannot be knocked down, confused, suppressed. All other systems - GNSS, astro, radio, correlation, etc. only help it.
      1. +1
        April 1 2022 20: 03
        Everything is exactly the opposite. The main ones now are guidance systems that receive information about the position of the aircraft from external sources, and the INS is a backup, insurance system in case of loss of communication.
      2. 0
        April 1 2022 21: 01
        "quantum entanglement" in your conclusion just climbs. Firstly, if this system is acceptable for a manned aircraft. I went "to the point", clarified the location and carried out bombing, then such "ultra-precise" systems as indicated are not quite right. The error of these systems is obvious from the physics of their work, on the route - YES, but for the target after 500 km of flight, with a deviation of 20-50 meters, this is unlikely.
  20. -1
    April 1 2022 15: 29
    And the remaining points we have can also be thrown somewhere in the direction of Ukraine.
  21. +5
    April 1 2022 16: 59
    Quote: sergo1914
    I don’t know about Scuds, but epic garbage has been written about the Point.

    Scuds and Tochka missiles of different classes, and the author has all the missiles mixed in a bunch.
  22. -8
    April 1 2022 17: 53
    Meanwhile, the Ukrainian "Tochki-U" Russian air defense systems are systematically shot down, with virtually no chance of success. I see that here and there these same Points achieve their goals.
  23. 0
    April 1 2022 18: 08
    Quote: gorenina91
    - I am a military officer (reserve officer).

    What are you doing here?
  24. +2
    April 1 2022 19: 18
    Rarely incompetent "explanation" of the principles of OTRK. Touches by the citation of the "ancestor" of the V-2 and the mention of the Pershings, owls. another class. Terminology at the level of the cook. And the weapon is just great!
  25. +4
    April 1 2022 19: 23
    The phrase in the text is almost according to Zadornov on the first of April "Possible deviations from the aiming point are very easily compensated for by a nuclear charge with its broad soul."
  26. 0
    April 1 2022 19: 26
    Solid fuel also provides faster refueling,
    enchanting phrase. I immediately recognized the author. Didn't read further.
  27. +2
    April 1 2022 23: 31
    Roman, a rocket is not a ship. The rocket has a tail section. Stabilizers and aerodynamic rudders are different concepts. Tochka was replaced by Tochka-U. "Oka" and "Oka-U" were destroyed in 1989. "Tochka", "Tochka-U", "Oka", however, like "Iskander" have an identical aerodynamic design. Well, etc., etc. Don't mislead readers.
  28. +2
    April 2 2022 01: 20
    Damn those that ... Why should solid fuel be refueled before launch. It seems to be refueled during the production of the rocket. request
  29. +3
    April 2 2022 08: 56


    Why is there no analogue of JDAM?

    Why is it necessary to spend several million dollars on a caliber or Iskander when, with the help of a $20 kit, you can turn a FAB-000/250 bomb into a glide bomb with a range of 500-50 km without entering the air defense zone? You can even slightly increase the radius with a small propeller.

    How many missiles were fired in Ukraine? Now Russia temporarily does not have ammunition for work on NATO, and in general it is billions of dollars when it was possible to work out dozens of times cheaper (except in cases of deep rear of Ukraine)

    It was necessary to reliably knock out the air defense of Ukraine and work with analogues of JDAM, OTRK cannot support massive troops, it is extremely expensive.

    I watched a video of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation where Iskander took out some kind of Ukrainian sheds and fortified areas in pigsties, this is crazy, it's very expensive.

    Just make a kit that will turn the FAB-500 into a guided gliding projectile, it's hundreds of times cheaper!
  30. +2
    April 2 2022 13: 32
    Quote: Naked King
    Why is there no analogue of JDAM?

    It's simple, ours read that this thing costs a lot of dollars, converted it into rubles at the bank rate, calculated that it would be better to put this money in your pocket, otherwise it’s just not enough for a yacht. If we have to fight, then only with adversaries, and for them we have a vigorous bomb. Other scenarios were not considered, we’ll throw iron on the Afghan and Syrian barmaley somehow, Hephaestus will help us
    Quote: Aviator_
    enchanting phrase. I immediately recognized the author. Didn't read further.

    What's wrong? Refueling time in preparation for launch is reduced to zero

  31. -1
    April 2 2022 21: 37
    Again, the praise of the OTRK, operating in "clear skies", when the enemy has neither aviation nor normal air defense systems.
  32. 0
    April 4 2022 06: 54
    Quote: gorenina91
    - I am a military officer (reserve officer).

    This does not mean that you have ever had or have anything to do with the army.
  33. 0
    April 4 2022 07: 03
    Quote: lithium17
    the manner and logic in your case of an officer with service experience above the company level ... But now the answer is clearly feminine.
    Quote: gorenina91
    - I am a military officer (reserve officer).
    So, some people worked out the cost to see

    The concepts of a person liable for military service and a reserve officer do not mean that a person served at all. In this case, Madame is engaged in a substitution of concepts, trying to pass off her endless nonsense as the conclusions of a specialist.
  34. 0
    April 6 2022 18: 00
    Ukrainians successfully use Tochka-U. It was necessary to keep the Russian ones and use them for their intended purpose, saving the Iskanders. Enough work for everyone.
    1. 0
      April 10 2022 12: 43
      Ours shoot them down perfectly.
  35. SID
    0
    April 8 2022 12: 42
    More easy the front allows you to shift back the center of pressure.

    In this case, it's not about more lightness, but more fineness corps. Stable aerodynamic design implies displacement center of aerodynamic pressure backward in flight relative to center of gravity rockets. That is, the center of mass is in front, and the center of aerodynamic forces is behind. As the fuel burns out, the butt becomes lighter and the center of mass shifts forward, which makes the rocket even more stable on the trajectory.
  36. SID
    0
    April 8 2022 12: 58
    Excellent article good
  37. 0
    April 9 2022 12: 19
    Who will say why the complex has such a name?
  38. 0
    12 May 2022 09: 40
    Thanks to the author, for an amateur to understand the principle of operation and design, it is quite enough. The "range" of warheads is impressive. And also the presence, as the main, of an inertial navigation system, and the use of gyroscopes. Just a push to "remember everything", the classics of navigation from the 70s then with a neck, when the teacher on the blackboard with chalk, told how the accelerometer works in self-propelled guns and we are all in a secret notebook, we will return to youth, so to speak. . Navigation cannot rely solely on external sources. Subject to interference and even destruction
  39. 0
    4 August 2022 20: 36
    In the end, it is worth noting that at one time the United States had a very worthy Pershing complex, a two-stage rocket of which could fly 1800 km at a speed of about 8M.
    author, your pershing turned out to be hypersonic. Check your calculations

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