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A prototype of the new Bayraktar Kızılelma strike drone was presented in Turkey, which is planned to be produced with the engines of a Ukrainian enterprise

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Turkey hosted a presentation of a prototype of a new strike unmanned aerial vehicle Bayraktar Kızılelma ("Red Apple"), developed by Baykar Makina. The new drone will be equipped with a jet engine.


Baykar Makina presented the combat UAV Kızılelma. As follows from the information posted on the official website of the company, the maximum takeoff weight of the Red Apple will be 5,5 tons, of which up to 1,5 tons will be payload. The AI-322F and AI-25TLT turbojet engines produced by the Ukrainian enterprise Ivchenko-Progress must provide speeds of 800 km/h and more. Claimed stay in the air - 5 hours.

Note that the contract for the supply of Ukrainian engines was signed in November last year. Also then there was information about two versions of the drone - subsonic and supersonic. Hence the contract for two types of engines. How it will actually be has not yet been revealed.

The drone, formerly called MIUS (Muharip İnsansız Uçak Sistemi), will be able to work in tandem with manned fighter jets and carry various weapons, including air-to-air missiles. The company plans that Bayraktar Kızılelma will replace fifth-generation manned fighters.

The company said that the new drone will be adapted for use from the Turkish flagship landing ship TCG Anadolu, which is still under construction. In addition to the Bayraktar Kızılelma, the new Turkish UDC will also carry the Bayraktar TB3, an upgraded version of the Bayraktar TB2. Thus, Turkey intends to expand the range of drones produced for use in the Navy.
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  1. Kesha1980
    Kesha1980 28 March 2022 15: 14
    +37
    The question of the engine is now quite curious. I would not want to supply drummer engines to Turkey. Categorically.
    Or are they now expecting something similar to an engine problem with their own tank? When there is only one problem with the engine, there is no engine.
    1. NIKN
      NIKN 28 March 2022 15: 16
      +15
      Turbojet engines AI-322F and AI-25TLT produced by the Ukrainian enterprise "Ivchenko-Progress"
      Has the problem of import substitution been solved? wink
      1. Kesha1980
        Kesha1980 28 March 2022 15: 24
        +25
        I don’t think that Russia will supply them with engines.
        Even for the most burgundy tomatoes).
        Dead drone.
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 28 March 2022 15: 28
          +6
          Quote: Kesha1980
          I don’t think that Russia will supply them with engines.

          I don’t know, maybe we will, the engines are old, in the sense of secret there is nothing (even if we sell the C400). But the enterprise needs to be restored, this enterprise is not even a city, but a country-forming one, orders are needed there. They will also be able to find a replacement, in the Czech Republic, in my opinion, they produced analogues. So it's in our hands.
          1. Kesha1980
            Kesha1980 28 March 2022 15: 34
            +1
            I dug around in the archive: according to Hurjet (Turkish jet attack aircraft from 21 years old) - the same garbage, everything is made in Turkey (4400 parts), but the engine is laid down
            the American General Electric F404-GE-102, and the European Eurojet EJ200, including thrust at the level of 85 kN.

            Content source: https://naukatehnika.com/novyij-konkurent-yak-130-tureczkij-boevoj-samolyot-tai-herjet-nachnut-proizvodit-v-koncze-etogo-goda.html
            naukatehnika.com
            1. krot
              krot 28 March 2022 16: 10
              +18
              Motorsich will either work for Russia or not at all .. The Turks are not catching up with something ..
              1. BARKAS
                BARKAS 28 March 2022 16: 27
                +1
                Motorsich will either work for Russia or not at all .. The Turks are not catching up with something ..

                Someone save the Chinese from such a deal.
                1. Kesha1980
                  Kesha1980 28 March 2022 16: 54
                  0
                  Just don't talk to the Chinese about "saved from the deal" - they can slap in the face, think, mock them.
                  3 lard is serious money.
                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 28 March 2022 19: 59
                    0
                    Somehow, Ukrainians repeatedly got into a puddle with imports.
                    What with his "Oplot", what with the Chinese deal - these are the most striking episodes.
                    So if the Turks want a Ukrainian engine, it's only a plus for Russia.
                    After all, these are guaranteed problems, both with the regularity of deliveries and with the quality of the delivered, and only after a few years the transition to our own production.

                    Something else surprises me. Time for this exhibition.
                    It's like they say:
                    Russians, don't forget to bomb the Ivchenko-Progress plant properly. Otherwise, we wanted to make motors ourselves, but Erdogan ordered to buy Ukrainian ...
                    "
              2. bayard
                bayard 28 March 2022 21: 04
                +1
                Quote: krot
                Motorsich will either work for Russia or not at all

                I think it WILL work.
                But the Turks can insure themselves with the F124-GA-200 engine from the Italian clone of our Yak-130 - M-346. He has about the same characteristics.
          2. Kesha1980
            Kesha1980 28 March 2022 15: 38
            +3
            I don’t know, maybe we will, the engines are old, in the sense of a secret there is nothing

            Well, at the first stage - the restoration of production. Then the production of the good we need. Let's not forget the problems with the restoration of production lines - sanctions restrictions will come around everywhere. So, the Turks should be banned from dreaming for "former Ukrainian" (that's right) engines for 5 years.
          3. Atlas
            Atlas 28 March 2022 21: 44
            0
            As far as I know, all the equipment has already been taken to the west of Ukraine. So we don't really get anything there. And what is not taken out will be blown up.
        2. Asad
          Asad 28 March 2022 15: 40
          0
          It is quite possible that we will sell these engines to the Turks.
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 March 2022 16: 22
          +1
          Quote: Kesha1980
          I don’t think that Russia will supply them with engines.

          It is more likely that the Turks will have to buy engines in the USA, or fly without engines.
        4. Simple Private
          Simple Private 30 March 2022 19: 37
          0
          They are not going to contact you. There are alternatives like F404 and EJ200.
      2. Alien From
        Alien From 28 March 2022 16: 09
        +1
        Now there is hope for Khikhelov ....
      3. Fisherman
        Fisherman 28 March 2022 16: 37
        +6
        This is one of the points why Putin took such an important step. Dill signed an agreement with the Turks on the exchange of technologies for rocket and other engines, up to the creation of a long-range ballistic missile for Turkey. And Putin decided everything right and ... did it! There will be no Nazism at the borders, there will be no new nuclear enemy states near our borders with nuclear weapons and long-range missiles.
      4. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 28 March 2022 17: 22
        +3
        Quote: NIKNN
        Turbojet engines AI-322F and AI-25TLT produced by the Ukrainian enterprise "Ivchenko-Progress"
        Has the problem of import substitution been solved? wink

        Are these factories still operating in Ukraine? And no one came to see them?
        1. NIKN
          NIKN 28 March 2022 17: 29
          +1
          If it did, it probably wouldn't be fatal. It will be necessary to restore it anyway, it’s not for us that they will try to destroy it.
    2. Timon2155
      Timon2155 28 March 2022 15: 49
      +12
      It is not worth leaving and restoring high-tech production in Ukraine in the future, this is especially true for defense industry enterprises - they immediately direct its products against us: directly or indirectly (selling it to our enemies). Let them farm.
    3. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane 28 March 2022 15: 50
      -1
      Quote: Kesha1980
      The question of the engine is now quite curious.

      I think I bought all the technical documentation ((
    4. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 28 March 2022 15: 54
      -1
      The question of the engine is now quite curious. I would not want to supply drummer engines to Turkey. Categorically.
      Or are they now expecting something similar to an engine problem with their own tank? When there is only one problem with the engine, there is no engine.
      Yes, I'm sorry to say, the drawings and equipment were destroyed by Bandera during the retreat! laughing
    5. smart ass
      smart ass 28 March 2022 16: 41
      +4
      I wonder why the caliber has not yet visited the enterprise producing these engines ?!)
      1. Carat
        Carat 28 March 2022 18: 11
        +1
        Quote: Clever man
        I wonder why the caliber has not yet visited the enterprise producing these engines ?!)


        Everything has its time.
    6. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 29 March 2022 11: 16
      0
      The question of the engine is a big question. Because the Russians are 25 km away. from Zaporozhye.
    7. Simple Private
      Simple Private 30 March 2022 19: 46
      0
      They are not going to contact you. They know that Russian engines are not compatible with Western FADEC systems. They have alternatives like F404 and EJ200.
  2. V1er
    V1er 28 March 2022 15: 15
    +2
    The AI-322F and AI-25TLT turbojet engines produced by the Ukrainian enterprise Ivchenko-Progress must provide speeds of 800 km/h and more. Claimed stay in the air - 5 hours.
    Note that the contract for the supply of Ukrainian engines was signed in November last year. Also then there was information about two versions of the drone - subsonic and supersonic.

    If the Ukrainians didn’t hand over all the drawings and documentation to them, the specialists didn’t run there as refugees, then the Turkish shop was covered.
    1. Kesha1980
      Kesha1980 28 March 2022 15: 21
      +12
      Even a carload of submitted documentation will not solve the problem. Separate production lines of individual parts with a separate material science - this is for a long time.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 28 March 2022 15: 56
        +6
        Quote: Kesha1980
        Separate production lines of individual parts with separate materials science - this is for a long time.

        Absolutely true.
        Talking about materials science, technical processes and so on is a separate and most important song.
        Anyone who had the opportunity to compare our Kalashnikov and the Chinese Type 56 in their hands will understand what I mean. Not a single "copier" will ever make an exact copy of a part. Outwardly similar - easily, but the same ... request
    2. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 28 March 2022 15: 30
      +2
      Quote: V1er
      If the Ukrainians didn’t hand over all the drawings and documentation to them, the specialists didn’t run there as refugees, then the Turkish shop was covered.

      The Turks have already done it. For instance:

      The president of the Turkish aerospace company TUSAŞ said that work continues on the invitation of military-industrial complex engineers from Ukraine to Turkey to the Teknokent research and development office opened in Antalya.
      1. Kesha1980
        Kesha1980 28 March 2022 15: 43
        +6
        Under martial law in Ukraine, the departure of specialists from the military-industrial complex of Ukraine is a simple desertion (from the point of view of Ukraine). Although it is quite logical.
  3. Woodman
    Woodman 28 March 2022 15: 15
    +17
    Baykar Makina presented the combat UAV Kızılelma
    Well, yes. The reputation of the current one was seriously tarnished. They land him very actively. Not like in Karabakh. Sales have fallen, you like it or not, you need to show a novelty ...
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 28 March 2022 15: 57
      -15
      Quote: Lesovik
      Well, yes. The reputation of the current one was seriously tarnished.

      Exactly the opposite. Given the conditions of our air superiority and rich layered air defense, the results for them are excellent, to my great regret.

      Bayraktar was destroyed in Ukraine, photo / video confirmation:
      Beech M1/M2 - 7 pcs.
      Carapace C1 - 1 pc.
      Tor M1/2 - 2 pcs
      BM-27 Hurricane - 1 pc.

      Several transport columns, dozens of units of individual vehicles, guns, armored vehicles. The adjustment of artillery fire and the value of intelligence data simply cannot be appreciated.
      https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html

      Who cares about the list of all targets hit with Bayraktar TB2
      https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/12/a-monument-of-victory-bayraktar-tb2.html
      Quote: Lesovik
      Sales dropped

      Vice versa. European customers are asking to speed up the delivery, another batch was shipped yesterday in Ukraine, this month they announced two new countries of customers for this equipment
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 28 March 2022 17: 35
        +5
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        to my great regret.

        Come on... wink
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        Several traffic columns

        The rest does not even make sense to copy. You are a funny people, only now ... hmm ... yeah. yes wassat
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        in the morning yesterday

        Oh, and I was in a hurry to throw it on, I already twisted my native stale one beyond recognition (although, much more already). fellow In short, sit down, two. hi
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 March 2022 16: 30
      0
      Quote: Lesovik
      Sales have fallen, like it or not, you need to show a novelty.

      You can show it, but the engines are still "yook".
    3. Simple Private
      Simple Private 30 March 2022 20: 09
      0
      And where are the drawings of the mundane Banner-bearers? Something you can’t see them in the trophy park.
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 28 March 2022 15: 15
    +12
    Yes, the Turks are unlucky with engines. They just found it, but there’s a hell of a lot and there are no engines. You have to do it yourself, it’s called import substitution.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 March 2022 16: 32
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      Yes, the Turks are unlucky with engines.

      Yes, and with ships for the square, it’s also somehow unlucky.
  5. vadimtt
    vadimtt 28 March 2022 15: 16
    +1
    The project will have to be redone for new engines ...
  6. pyagomail.com
    pyagomail.com 28 March 2022 15: 16
    0
    Turbojet engines AI-322F and AI-25TLT produced by the Ukrainian enterprise "Ivchenko-Progress"
    Here the Turkish comrades hurried a lot - whether there will be engines, and whose engines they will be - this is unknown to science (this is an altered quote from "Carnival Night").
  7. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 28 March 2022 15: 17
    +2
    Turbojet engines AI-322F and AI-25TLT produced by the Ukrainian enterprise "Ivchenko-Progress"

    In Zaporozhye, production ... must be taken at gunpoint ... it is unacceptable for Bayraktar Kızılelma to be used against Russia.
    1. Elephant
      Elephant 28 March 2022 15: 21
      +7
      Zaporozhye must be taken!
  8. host
    host 28 March 2022 15: 23
    +5
    The UAV prototype from Turkey will be equipped with engines from the Ukrainian prototype. smile
  9. evgen1221
    evgen1221 28 March 2022 15: 24
    0
    How many minutes after the presentation did a Ukrainian come running to beg for all the produced UAVs?
  10. Sergey Aleksandrovich
    Sergey Aleksandrovich 28 March 2022 15: 27
    +7
    Somehow they, in Turkey, look very optimistically into the future. The plant in Zaporozhye may be subject to demilitarization or denazification, which in general means the same thing.
  11. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 28 March 2022 15: 28
    +5
    A new target on the map of the General Staff. Ukrainian enterprise "Ivchenko-Progress."
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 28 March 2022 16: 08
      +4
      We will always have time to demolish, but maybe it will come in handy? "Motor Sich", "Ivchenko Progress", "Zorya Mashproek", "Yuzhmash + KB Yuzhnoye" - it's a pity the legacy of the Union in rubble ...
    2. Crash
      Crash 28 March 2022 17: 17
      +1
      Do our planes no longer need engines?
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 28 March 2022 15: 28
    +6
    Will the enterprise survive when we liberate Zaporozhye???
  13. Crete 25
    Crete 25 28 March 2022 15: 30
    +1
    This friendship of ours with Turkey, with their weapons-grade turmoil with Ukraine, looks like ... I won’t say what, it’s indecent. Yes, and the presentation could be delayed in the current situation.
    1. KCA
      KCA 28 March 2022 15: 47
      -2
      And with Israel, whose prime ministers kiss Putin on the gums, and they sold us an UAV along with a license for production, and they sell UAVs to Ukraine, is that decent?
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 28 March 2022 15: 54
        +1
        Quote: KCA
        And with Israel, whose prime ministers kiss Putin on the gums, and they sold us an UAV along with a license for production, and they sell UAVs to Ukraine, is that decent?

        APU uses Israeli UAVs?
        1. KCA
          KCA 28 March 2022 16: 23
          +1
          I read that Ukraine was going to buy, but after the next meeting between Putin and Netanyahu, the delivery was officially postponed, although Israel supplied UAVs to Georgia and Poland, apparently they leaked
          1. kirosi
            kirosi 28 March 2022 22: 05
            -1
            leaked?! they don’t have legs, and no one has canceled end-user certificates (that way you can screw up the entire official arms trade system in the world). so with the consent of the Jews.
            1. KCA
              KCA 29 March 2022 01: 14
              -1
              404 asked Russia for permission to supply "Buks" to Georgia, and even with crews?
              1. kirosi
                kirosi 29 March 2022 13: 45
                0
                and who said that these were Russian-made Beeches, which Ukraine never had? Most likely, Ukraine delivered to Georgia those beeches that remained with it after the partition of the USSR.
                1. KCA
                  KCA 30 March 2022 05: 55
                  -1
                  THOSE. in your opinion, "Buk-M1" made in the USSR can be distributed to everyone? In Russia, in storage of overdone equipment produced by the USSR, will we sell Hezbollah, Iran, and even x, with Israel? T-72 thousand 10 cost, thousands of air defense systems of various types, we will sell and say, but this is not ours, this is the USSR, but what about the fact that officially the Russian Federation is the legal successor of the USSR, this only concerns the debts that we paid, but all the benefits are no longer ours? Walk, ragged? Here in Almaz-Antey they will be delighted, such an expansion of the sales market, everyone, well, just everyone will rush to buy our old weapons when they find out that Russia is not at all responsible for it
                  1. kirosi
                    kirosi 30 March 2022 08: 39
                    -1
                    You are distorting, if you do not take those countries (organizations) against which sanctions have been imposed at the UN level (approved by Russia), then yes we can safely sell (and who should we ask?) And Iran and whoever you want.
                    The equipment left in Ukraine is considered THEIR equipment, in our country it is ours, and not nobody's, with all the consequences.
                    1. KCA
                      KCA 30 March 2022 09: 41
                      -1
                      Everything is very complicated, politics, their mother, we did not supply S-300 to Iran, Israel did not supply drones to Ukraine, Israel does not attack our aircraft and bases in Syria, we do not shoot down Israeli aircraft, because they are supposedly hiding and unexpectedly from the territory Lebanon is being attacked by the Iranians, this is crap, if there was an order, the S-400 will also remove everything in the air over the territory of Lebanon, including the F-35, early warning worked, the missiles left, then they themselves will find and catch up, but we are silent, Israel is silent , and our right to be smart here, in VO, or somewhere else to scratch your tongue, but what, who, how and to whom, we don’t know, at least 100 years old, or even never
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 March 2022 16: 40
          +1
          Quote: Flood
          APU uses Israeli UAVs?

          Russian Forpost drone, based on technology licensed from Israel Aircraft Industries, closed a $400 million deal to export and license its Searcher II UAVs, which were to be produced in Russia under license and operated as Forposts
  14. skeptic
    skeptic 28 March 2022 15: 31
    +2
    Why hasn't the plant been bombed yet? Strange.
    After recent events, one should speak about the plant only in the past tense
  15. gansales
    gansales 28 March 2022 15: 33
    +1
    prototype of the new Bayraktar strike drone

    We shot down these vaunted UAVs over the Outskirts! There are no more of them .. The Turks raped Kyiv and their owners who sponsored these purchases!
    Now we can deliver the same to the Kurds in Syria and Iraq. We have the right !!!!
    How do you like the Turks?
    1. Simple Private
      Simple Private 30 March 2022 20: 26
      0
      You were the first to start by handing over the Iskander-M to Armenia. Have you forgotten.
  16. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 28 March 2022 15: 34
    -3
    But a good litak: 800 km and ABOVE! Is this hypersound?
  17. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 28 March 2022 15: 37
    +3
    Turbojet engines AI-322F and AI-25TLT produced by the Ukrainian enterprise "Ivchenko-Progress"
    ..Turkey hopes that the demilitarization of this enterprise will not affect?
  18. Alexander X
    Alexander X 28 March 2022 15: 41
    +1
    Soon there will be no this country and there is probably no engine. Erdogan's bummer...
    But he was told that it was not worth messing with the 404th ...
  19. faterdom
    faterdom 28 March 2022 15: 42
    0
    Turbojet engines AI-322F and AI-25TLT manufactured by the Ukrainian enterprise "Ivchenko-Progress" must provide a speed within 800 km / h and

    The Red Banner Black Sea Fleet specifies the coordinates of the enterprise.
  20. skeptic
    skeptic 28 March 2022 15: 45
    +2
    Bayraktar after hostilities in Ukraine will be bought, only as targets
    1. Kesha1980
      Kesha1980 28 March 2022 15: 54
      +1
      There are many niches - there will be buyers (and propeller-driven attack aircraft are now bought on the market - and quite justifiably), but, of course, they will have to drop the price.
    2. Erhan
      Erhan 28 March 2022 18: 54
      +1
      Engines are coming. Turkish TEI PD-170. The engines are now in mass production.
  21. K-50
    K-50 28 March 2022 15: 45
    0
    A prototype of the new Bayraktar Kızılelma strike drone was presented in Turkey, which is planned to be produced with the engines of a Ukrainian enterprise

    Everything, "kina will not be." request
    The Ukrainian enterprise has come to an end. If it is revived, then under the auspices of Russia. And Russia is unlikely to supply engines for the Turks.
  22. flicker
    flicker 28 March 2022 15: 46
    +3
    A prototype of the new Bayraktar Kızılelma strike drone was presented in Turkey, which is planned to be produced with the engines of a Ukrainian enterprise
    Hmm, the Turks have found a reliable partner for themselves.
    1. Elephant
      Elephant 28 March 2022 16: 46
      -8
      The Turks are experienced traders, apparently calculated the benefits at that time. The situation in the world is changing rapidly and no one is insured ... The Russian Federation also lost and much more - half of the gold reserves, funds invested in the North. flow-2
      1. ANB
        ANB 28 March 2022 16: 59
        +2
        . funds invested in the North. flow-2

        And when will the Nazis blow up UkroGTS already? Like a war, and they diligently pump enemy gas.
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 28 March 2022 17: 38
        0
        Quote: Elephant
        half of the gold reserves, funds invested in the North. flow-2

        Apparently, someone fermented soundly for a month. fellow drinks Although, in a year there will be similar "alternative" ones. yes wassat
      3. flicker
        flicker 28 March 2022 20: 54
        0
        Turks are experienced traders
        Tomatoes - yes! And with engine manufacturers, they had no special options, so they took the risk. And it seems in vain.
  23. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 March 2022 15: 46
    0
    Well, Ukrainian is unlikely, they are reformatting in the country and who will fall off or join where, this is a question.
  24. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 28 March 2022 15: 47
    +2
    Either the article is late, or the Turks are slowing down. There was "Ivchenko", but the whole one came out
  25. Elephant
    Elephant 28 March 2022 15: 49
    -7
    In terms of drones, the Turks are probably ahead of us. Basurmans think strategically. When we take the Ukrainian plant, it will be possible to consider the issue of cooperation with them
    1. KCA
      KCA 28 March 2022 15: 56
      -3
      The first versions of the "Hunter" are already flying in the gas, including in tandem with the SU-57, but the Turks don't even have engines, and it's not foreseen what they are ahead of?
      1. Elephant
        Elephant 28 March 2022 16: 20
        -3
        Yes. They fly on TV!
  26. XNUMX%
    XNUMX% 28 March 2022 15: 53
    -1
    It looks like some kind of Russian-Turkish project. Otherwise, Ivchenko-Progress would have ceased to exist a few days ago.
  27. House 25 Sq. 380
    House 25 Sq. 380 28 March 2022 15: 56
    0
    Turkey is now on the "counter": do not set fire to the kiosk - it costs money or something ...
  28. sen
    sen 28 March 2022 15: 56
    +2
    A prototype of the new Bayraktar Kızılelma strike drone was presented in Turkey, which is planned to be produced with the engines of a Ukrainian enterprise

    If Motor Sich has not yet been struck, then it must be done. It is not far, in Zaporozhye.
  29. Arkady007
    Arkady007 28 March 2022 16: 01
    0
    The question is certainly interesting. And do we need it?
  30. kalita
    kalita 28 March 2022 16: 31
    +1
    Ukraine no longer has a plant for the production of engines and the government will no longer be the same. So let Turkey look for another partner.
  31. Last centurion
    Last centurion 28 March 2022 16: 37
    0
    It is interesting to take it entirely .. Well, a factory or a couple of "calibers" will arrive. Maybe already arrived?
  32. Emergency
    Emergency 28 March 2022 17: 08
    +2
    However, optimists "With engines of the Ukrainian enterprise". Oh well.
  33. megavolt823
    megavolt823 28 March 2022 17: 21
    +1
    Like the Turks can’t make an engine for a buzzer? I understand it is difficult for a fighter. But rumblers a la like those of a maize maker? There are a bunch of motors. At least steal it, at least buy a patent. What is the difficulty? I think they are not interested. The offer was made to the Turks from the empire of lies. So that Ukrainians make motors. And for the motors, the Turks sent finished products. And it seems no one is arming. Birds, grenade launchers, machine guns are one thing. And then, MANPADS can do a lot of grief. And then at least reconnaissance, at least a flying projectile. Wide application. Yes, and in the hands of stoned forelock idiots. And yet no one is to blame. That's what they're interested in. In my sick mind.
    1. Erhan
      Erhan 28 March 2022 18: 48
      +2
      If you want to see our engines, you can check the TEI Engine website. The Turkish PD-170 engine for Bayraktar TB3 entered mass production 1 years ago. But, yes, we still don't have a JET engine.
      1. megavolt823
        megavolt823 29 March 2022 09: 35
        0
        That's what I'm talking about. The piston engine is not a problem. They made a bunch of them choose and adapt. The jet-powered drone will be difficult to control. It will be difficult to implement a small drone with a jet engine. Yes , and electronics of another level are needed . Ukraine will not solve any of these problems. So why was a contract signed with them? What is the purpose?
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        2. Erhan
          Erhan April 2 2022 07: 57
          +1
          I trust my Defense industry and my Turkish engineers. Nothing is impossible for Turkish engineers. We have a population of 85 million + 10 million (Azerbaijan).

          Big surprises in 2023.

          Our 1000+ projects are progressing according to the scheduled date.
          1. megavolt823
            megavolt823 April 2 2022 18: 40
            0
            does Russia have anything to fear?
  34. Victor Dubovitsky
    Victor Dubovitsky 28 March 2022 17: 35
    0
    Quote: Crasher
    Do our planes no longer need engines?

    And not all engines are needed for OUR aircraft. Helicopters have already begun to do themselves. Restore someone else's, and abandon your own? You can leave if there are plans to absorb these territories, annex them, with a guarantee that it will work out. To leave when there is no such guarantee is to keep a competitor. Let not hostile, but a competitor. Can you tell if some is let go, it won't be reborn? With tridents and Maidans? It is necessary to do everything thoroughly, with an eye on decades. I would bomb while I still have the chance. For a guarantee. And to restore already at home, say in Voronezh. It seems there is already an experience of LEAVING the industry? Leaving territories. Withdrawal of bases, troops from Eastern Europe? Shall we learn or repeat? Let's leave it - problems with Motor Sich will arise again. Give to brothers from the east? And it is necessary? Something I do not notice much zeal in helping us with them. Or, since such a booze has gone, cut the last cucumber?
  35. Carat
    Carat 28 March 2022 18: 08
    +1
    The AI-322F and AI-25TLT turbojet engines produced by the Ukrainian enterprise Ivchenko-Progress must provide speeds of 800 km/h and more.


    A couple of calibers and Turkish drones without engines.
  36. av58
    av58 28 March 2022 18: 28
    +1
    Funny. Where are these engines now? Without an engine, you can assemble a full-scale model in order to put it on any exhibition stand)))
  37. Erhan
    Erhan 28 March 2022 18: 39
    +4
    Hello guys, I am Turkish. We are not producing these planes against the Russians. Russia is our friend, ally and neighbor. Our enemy is different. (European Nazi Empire)
    1. kirosi
      kirosi 29 March 2022 13: 47
      0
      Nothing personal, just business then? It's a very rotten business, business not only against Russia but against Ukrainian people as well.
  38. kirosi
    kirosi 28 March 2022 22: 01
    +1
    the impression is that they are absolutely sure that the Russian army will not reach Zaporozhye. Why did it happen?!